The T-series Power Armor of Fallout!

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@hobbstactv2571
@hobbstactv2571 Жыл бұрын
The "T" naming convention back in the day in the real world signified a test piece, it prefaced the "XM" prefix for experimental weapons and items, so the thought that all power armors kept their T prefix is interesting. It signifies that power armor of all types never even reached experimental fielding phase and was rushed into service. Given their similarities, my personal headcanon is that T60 is heavily modified and reinforced T45. The reason that the BoS in Fallout 3 used T45 exclusively is that that's all the West Coast BoS sent with them. Remember that Lyons and his crew were sent east because the main BoS was trying to get rid of them. They also found several suits in the basement of the Pentagon. In my headcanon, I like to think that the T45 in the Pentagon were awaiting the application of a Modification Work Order (MWO) to bring it up to T60 standards, which is a common practice in the military when a new model of an existing item supercedes the obsolete item spec. This also explains why the BoS in Fallout 4 exclusively use T60. In the years between Fallout 3 and 4, they managed to successfully apply the MWO to their existing T45 suits.
@EnemyAtom65
@EnemyAtom65 Жыл бұрын
The M60 Patton tank was basically just the M48 Patton with better Armour and a better engine with some minor visual differences but was still decided to be named a new tank instead of a variant of the M48.
@EnemyAtom65
@EnemyAtom65 Жыл бұрын
So the United States is not shy of naming essentially variants as new vehicles
@zacharyrollick6169
@zacharyrollick6169 Жыл бұрын
Makes sense to me.
@cericat
@cericat Жыл бұрын
@@EnemyAtom65 Not even close, the M577 is a M113 chassis with a a higher hull to provide room to walk in and have additional provisions as a command vehicle. The M3 is a variant of the M2 Bradley... And that's just more current armored vehicles I can think of immediately (my local regiment ran M113s and M577s for nearly 40 years so well acquainted with them). Also follows with firearms with the M4 being an evolution of the M16 design with some mechanical differences to improve reliability. Also it's worth noting though T series American vehicles did sometimes serve in some capacity during WW2 rather than just being prototypes such as the T30 howitzer motor carriage, which itself was a M3 half-track with a 75mm M1 Howitzer mounted. There's really no universal standard with the nomenclature of weapons that is strictly adhered to all the time for one reason or another, often politics, ask the F-111 crews.
@DS-wl5pk
@DS-wl5pk Жыл бұрын
@@cericatyeah, that’s why there’s the joke “who comes up with these names?” Then you have the Germans 🙄🙄🙄
@ConquistadoraDeLaEstrella
@ConquistadoraDeLaEstrella Жыл бұрын
the Mojave Brotherhood were intended to be wearing a mix of T-45d and T-51b suits in game, with the paladins in the bunker wearing T-51b while the knights wear T-45d. However Obsidian later commented that the reason the entire Mojave Brotherhood wears T-51b was simply due to a mistake when setting up the equipment lists for the BoS npcs, and the T-45d forgot to have the "can be used by this faction" flag added.
@InhabitantOfOddworld
@InhabitantOfOddworld 6 ай бұрын
Sounds like the sort of thing that could have been patched or modded
@1983Corolla
@1983Corolla 6 ай бұрын
It's kinda crazy just how many things are supposed to be in New Vegas and don't show up because of a coding error.
@Warrior-Of-Virtue
@Warrior-Of-Virtue Жыл бұрын
9:18 This actually makes a lot of sense. The armor would have been state of the art technology at the time. The last thing you would want is a deserter selling it to the highest bidder.
@lucifersno.1fan731
@lucifersno.1fan731 Жыл бұрын
Fallout NV has my favourite set of T-series power armour. I love the look of Scorched Sierra power armour.
@Rad_King
@Rad_King Жыл бұрын
It is a sweet looking suit
@ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem
@ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem Жыл бұрын
Would have been even better if its helmet wasn't cut.
@unclesam326
@unclesam326 Жыл бұрын
Definitely my favorite power armor of that game. Same with tribal in f3 Pitt. Such a shame neither have helmets
@alexandre007opa
@alexandre007opa Жыл бұрын
It's not proper power armour tho? Just the plates
@ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem
@ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem Жыл бұрын
@alexandre007opa It is real power armor. It requires the training to use and provides a strength bonus.
@brothers_of_nod
@brothers_of_nod Жыл бұрын
Ever since seeing the medic T45, I had always wanted to see an exchange between Drill Sergeant Dornan and that power armor.
@Boone69
@Boone69 Жыл бұрын
Lmao that would be hilarious Dornan arguing with a power armor
@DarthFhenix55
@DarthFhenix55 Жыл бұрын
@@Boone69 You're out of uniform soldier, WHERE IS YOU HUMAN PILOT? You don't have any? DO YOU EXPECT ME TO BELIVE THAT MAGGOT? THE TRUTH IS YOU LOST AN EXPENSIVE PIECE OF HUMAN RESOURCES, THAT BODY WILL COME OUT FROM YOUR PAY, AND YOU WILL REMAIN IN THIS ARMY UNTILL YOU ARE FIVE HUNDRED AND THEN YEARS FULL OF RUST, WICH IS NUMBER OF YEARS, IT WILL TAKE YOU TO PAY FOR A WELL TRAINED ENCLAVE HEAVY INFANTRY SOLDIER! Report to the armory and have a new body issued to you, then report back to me, private! DISMISSED!
@AlqhemyA
@AlqhemyA Жыл бұрын
@@Boone69You’re a set of power armour? You except me to believe that, MAGGOT?”
@Boone69
@Boone69 Жыл бұрын
@@AlqhemyA 😂😂
@SADmemer.
@SADmemer. Жыл бұрын
The medic armor says something. “That was your power armor speaking? You expect me to believe that MAGGOT! The truth is you just BACK TALKED ME”
@silverjohn6037
@silverjohn6037 Жыл бұрын
Reference the Lyon's East Coast switch to T45 armor it may have been the West Coast main chapter getting rid of a batch of obsolete gear to equip a batch of dissidents being sent on a fool's errand. Alternatively, going off of Fallout 4 experience, the repair materials for T 45 are a lot cheaper and easier to scavenge (basically steel with some circuitry for the chest piece) than for the more complex T 51.
@hellspawn22001
@hellspawn22001 Жыл бұрын
The west coast basically sent Lyon’s out to die so it makes sense they would get the scraps
@theace8502
@theace8502 Жыл бұрын
I've always thought something like this. I would postulate that since t-51b is fairly rare and probably harder to repair, they were sent east with the earlier t-45d. If I was the brotherhood, I'd rather waste a bunch of the cheaper models if things went south instead of wasting an entire chapters worth of t-51s
@passingrando6457
@passingrando6457 Жыл бұрын
I thought that one of the Paladins in 3 said they found cache of T-45d in the Capitol Wasteland. Might have even specified the Pentagon itself.
@tinaherr3856
@tinaherr3856 Жыл бұрын
6:49 these in-game statements from the Brotherhood actually help prove the theory that the Black Devil armor in the lore is much stronger than what is in the game. Since you can encounter the Enclave in the main quest relatively early, the devs probably scaled down the power armor stats, so as to not absolutely wreak the player. So it's simply another case of gameplay vs lore. Edit: 39:54 that statement is just what I was trying to state
@danielnunez1587
@danielnunez1587 Жыл бұрын
Didn't seem to worry about super mutant overlords destroying us though
@tinaherr3856
@tinaherr3856 Жыл бұрын
@@danielnunez1587 the Enclave had strong energy weapons, and if the armour in-game was made as strong as it was lore-wise, players would have an even worse time.
@danielnunez1587
@danielnunez1587 Жыл бұрын
@@tinaherr3856 have you ever encountered an overlord with a tri-beam laser rifle?
@tinaherr3856
@tinaherr3856 Жыл бұрын
@@danielnunez1587 no, unfortunately. Still, if the developers made things exactly lore-equivelant, the Black Devil armor would be far stronger than Super Mutant skin and whatever scrap metal they have on them.
@danielnunez1587
@danielnunez1587 Жыл бұрын
@@tinaherr3856 the overlord doesn't wear armor and he kills you in a few shots even with power armor on. I think the enclave killing us in a bit more than that would be ok
@tonystank3091
@tonystank3091 Жыл бұрын
I think the thing on the back of the Salvaged armor is some kind of after-market Air Conditioning unit. To mitigate that problem you brought up about the suit getting toasty in the desert.
@patrikhjorth3291
@patrikhjorth3291 Жыл бұрын
I was about to say the same. The tank-looking thing is likely an air tank for breathing in toxic environments, and the other gubbins may very well be a cooling unit to replace the suit's original thermal control. It makes a lot of sense to refit the suits like this, even if the "muscles" can't be replaced.
@cericat
@cericat Жыл бұрын
@@patrikhjorth3291 which would make the radiator unit on the backplate of the Scorched Sierra make sense too, big heatsink with active exhaust to push out as much as possible. One of the things Eddings through Sparhawk got right about plate armour is just how fast it gets hot and sweaty inside, even in cold climates you can be looking at heat stroke when the sun is out because then too you're wearing a gambeson under it. Which may also be part of the point of the recon suit, not interfacing with the mechanics, but the liquid cooling system.
@Rudinn_Ranger
@Rudinn_Ranger Жыл бұрын
That’s what I was gonna say
@hades_deathgod9496
@hades_deathgod9496 5 ай бұрын
I always interpreted it as a battery, they stripped out the servos, but not all the electrical components, so it would make sense that while no longer “powered” other systems like the helmet could still be functional
@dracotias
@dracotias Жыл бұрын
I think I remember reading somewhere that it was supposed to be explained in a terminal that the DC Brotherhood used T-45 because they found a huge stockpile of it upon reaching The Pentagon and making it their home. After their journey to get there, the existing armour they had was damaged and with limited resources it was easier to just switch to the T-45 which was still "good enough"
@mercuriallily
@mercuriallily Жыл бұрын
Maybe the cylinder on the back of the NCR Salvaged Armor is a lower tech workaround for the Air filtration system that you mentioned would normally be powered by the fusion core. Like an O2 canister from a scuba suit
@sinjin8576
@sinjin8576 8 ай бұрын
Considering sometimes you can find cooling unit on their bodies this would check out. That or my game has gotten unreasonably buggy.
@ryanbusch2885
@ryanbusch2885 Жыл бұрын
I like the idea that the medic t45 was originally made with some help or input from the Big MT, yeah there’s the similarities to the stealth suit and the auto doc in the sink but it’s also just up their alley to make voice “ai”s that can be integrated with any kind of tech
@jaytrashwade1-1
@jaytrashwade1-1 8 ай бұрын
Speaking of AI integrated power armor, what do you think of the Sentinel Control System in Fallout 4 Creation Club?
@benjaminfinlay829
@benjaminfinlay829 Жыл бұрын
Regarding the Power Armour rebalance in Fallout 76, and the lore, I have an idea about why T-60 was introduced. The idea is that the T-51 were everything the US Army hoped... but the whiz-bang new polymer plating was expensive to produce... (And _maybe_ the numbers of those getting radiation sickness when using Fat Man catapults while wearing them was getting a _touch_ too high to ignore.) As the Power Armour Corps expanded, the budget couldn't keep up. So the higher-ups ordered that a cheaper alternative be designed. And designed _fast._ So a design team took the T-45 and updated it with new technologies. The result: the T-60. Technically a downgrade from the T-51 suits, but still powerful enough to satisfy all the requirements (including the increased radiation protection), while _also_ being quite a bit cheaper to produce. As for T-65? Since only the Secret Service has them? Bleeding-edge tech demonstrator. X-01's pre-War appearances can also be explained this way - as a commenter mentioned in response to another video - and I personally think it may be an attempt by another company to muscle in on the market that West Tek had a monopoly on at the time. And then the Enclave claimed/stole the schematics.
@cericat
@cericat Жыл бұрын
Good chance, it's often a reason for revamped programs using cheaper options, the prototypes build to the pinnacle while the production line is just good enough and made idiot proof for GI use.
@swampdonkey1567
@swampdonkey1567 Жыл бұрын
A bit like the T72 to the T62 tanks.
@sinjin8576
@sinjin8576 8 ай бұрын
This theory works well with another I heard where T-60 was built entirely for domestic use regarding the rise in riots and civilian unrest. It would also fit why in the start of FO4 you only see soldiers in T60 and continues the US's trend of giving army reserves slightly outdated or slightly altered equipment
@chris2ndaccount69
@chris2ndaccount69 7 ай бұрын
@@swampdonkey1567 you mean T-64 right?
@loreman2803
@loreman2803 6 ай бұрын
X-01 could have been Simultaneously developed by a different research group or company
@ryanbusch2885
@ryanbusch2885 Жыл бұрын
T65 has a bit of a bomb squad look to it, like specifically where the bulk is added and how it has a space behind a few of the shield parts
@Paladin_Johnson
@Paladin_Johnson Жыл бұрын
In Fallout NV there’s a magazine called “Future Weapons Today” that has, what I personally believe to be, some prototype Tesla T-45. It’s black with an orange visor and has wires across the whole armor, and is on the games energy weapon magazine. I believe this was the first attempt at Tesla armor before they moved onto more advanced units. (Side note, T-60 is not the only armor that has Brotherhood paint jobs in 76, the T-51 has both a Knight and Paladin paint)
@bartrulz8846
@bartrulz8846 Жыл бұрын
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@Rad_King
@Rad_King Жыл бұрын
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@theace8502
@theace8502 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like a bad case of radiation sickness. Uhh I mean sounds like a good case of ascension into atoms glow. Just make sure not to freak out whenever your skin peels or you start stinking like a corpse. That part is completely normal
@shedninjareal
@shedninjareal Жыл бұрын
hmmm yes fuck yt
@fakacoon8864
@fakacoon8864 Жыл бұрын
I always assumed the East Coast BoS used t45 because they were based in the pentagon, which would most likely have some power armor, but they probably couldn't spare any t51 suits in active military use
@derekmensch3601
@derekmensch3601 Жыл бұрын
I like this Theory. But I know the Pentagon would absolutely send people to war while they get the new shit. My dad deployed to Kuwait in 91 and he showed me photos of him in woodlands. While at the Pentagon photos were taken within the same week as they all had Chocolate chip desert camouflage uniforms
@hanzzel6086
@hanzzel6086 Жыл бұрын
It's probable that that's all the West Coast BoS sent them with. Remember, Lyons and his group were, while not officially, explicitly sent East to get them out of the way, since Lyons was a popular zealot who often clashed with the higher ranks. And that's also the origins of the Silent Hills BoS in F:NV. And also my headcanon for F:4's BoS (with them mostly consisting of former Outcast/Enclave).
@CakeofWisdom
@CakeofWisdom 10 ай бұрын
I always thought that was the in-game explanation? The Brotherhood found an arsenal of the older suits under the Pentagon and used them instead of having to maintain the T-51b, and that's why they made the Pentagon ruins their HQ?
@hazard4349
@hazard4349 8 ай бұрын
Considering how resource deprived the bos is in fallout 3 this makes tons of sense, probably the few remaining suits of t51 are stored somewhere safe
@zcinelli4
@zcinelli4 7 ай бұрын
i thought they mention that in fall out 3
@patrikhjorth3291
@patrikhjorth3291 Жыл бұрын
To me, the T-65 power armour looks like a development of the T-51. Sure, it looks quite different, but if you compare things like the breast plate and pauldrons, they are _more_ similar to T-51 that T-60 pieces. It seems likely to me that this could be an attempt to update the T-51 design for higher spec, with a different profile to the plating but with a similar frame support, just like the T-60 is an update to T-45.
@HamletSandwich
@HamletSandwich Жыл бұрын
Re: the description of T60 vs the stats in 76. "More advanced" doesn't necessarily mean "more effective". Modern fighter jets are more advanced than older offerings, but aren't necessarily better than them depending on use-case. "Advanced" in this case could mean more modular, or easier to repair, or even just the fact it is built with a post-nuclear war environment in mind (hence the rad resistance). Just some thoughts! Incredible video as always! 💙💙💙
@maddlarkin
@maddlarkin Жыл бұрын
My take on T-60 was it is in effect an up-armour kit of the T-45, something a stretched US military fighting on multiple fronts could do to increase power armour suit numbers by retro-fitting older suits to mordern standards as demand for the more advanced T-51 was outstripping supply and this is why The Brotherhood is able to go full T-60 in just 10 years, these are the same suits from Fallout 3 just up-armoured to a better spec with data recovered from, well where ever they found it
@RebelFNOS
@RebelFNOS Жыл бұрын
I know fallout 76 isn't the best game but I prefer what they did with the power armor balance in that game over fallout 4's
@JamesF0790
@JamesF0790 Жыл бұрын
Yeah. T-51 is likely more powerful in of itself but is likely harder to procure/repair. T-60 is better than the T-45. Likely has some of the T-51 upgrades but built onto a T-45 frame.
@Altom941
@Altom941 Жыл бұрын
With regards to BoS T-45 in New Vegas, according to the wiki they were supposed to use a mix of T45 and t 51 but a bug caused all but those hardcoded to have 45d to spawn with 51b.Crucially those supposed to have 45d still have 45d helmets.
@yecnay25
@yecnay25 Жыл бұрын
T45 is my favorite too because of FO3. I also tend to always join the Minute Men and gather the T-45s at the Castle and paint them in Minute Men colors. Any attack on the Castle is met by twenty Minute Men in full power armor and miniguns lol.
@CASA-dy4vs
@CASA-dy4vs 5 ай бұрын
“This should be an easy raid on these stoopid minutemen people, wait what’s that whirring sound… OH SHT”
@phillipwagner6669
@phillipwagner6669 Жыл бұрын
As for the bits on the back of the Salvaged power armor, I think they might be used as some kind of cooling unit or air filtration unit. Probably hot as shit in that armor in the desert heat
@youmukonpaku3168
@youmukonpaku3168 Жыл бұрын
we know the servos that *move* it are stripped out, because that's the part that needs training to use; it doesn't make sense that the NCR would also remove the very useful, nuclear powered, and no training required climate control and the like.
@metadude1234
@metadude1234 11 ай бұрын
I feel like the NCR Salvaged armor is more in line with they got rid of the Halo Spartan tier movement systems ("relax your muscles, let the suit do the work"); and replaced it with more deliberate systems that require direct input like a normal exoskeleton hence the weird pneumatic power pack on the back of the armor. Which means, it's still powered in a way - just not remotely as beneficial in the short term aside from being able to field it with anyone inside without risking the Iron Man 2 torso rip scene lol I could be entirely wrong, but that makes the most sense to me
@blackXhawksXkickXbut
@blackXhawksXkickXbut Жыл бұрын
In my head canon, the T-60 power armor was developed to be a cheaper alternative to the T-51. The T-51 was still the best prewar power armor, but it was a rather expensive unit and for domestic operations it was not necessary to have that level of protection. So, the T-60 was developed.
@hanzzel6086
@hanzzel6086 Жыл бұрын
I'm with some others with it basically being a massive upgrade package for T-45, developed because T-51 was so expensive and difficult to produce. And T-65 is an development to the T-51, since they do share some similarities, but it was way too expensive to deploy in any significant numbers.
@ottovonbismarck7094
@ottovonbismarck7094 Жыл бұрын
T45 seems like the “produced in bulk” suit. Theres so many its easily repaired and modded, and in a wasteland where you cant produce new stuff, the best armor is the one that is expendable and repairable
@ThommyofThenn
@ThommyofThenn Жыл бұрын
I just repaired the T-51b suit in the BoS bunker in Fallout 1. Had to call it a night after I got it equipped but I'm excited to try it
@autumnsolstice1479
@autumnsolstice1479 Жыл бұрын
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@Rad_King
@Rad_King Жыл бұрын
I’m glad I can help you get much needed rest. Stay strong!
@sofaking1627
@sofaking1627 Жыл бұрын
I only get a day or two per week where I can sit back and really lose myself in my games. What a treat that I'd get a new power armor lore video on a day I planned to spend playing Fallout. Another great one Radking, good stuff.
@maxmillianwiegel1643
@maxmillianwiegel1643 Жыл бұрын
I’m fairly certain that the ncr salvaged power armor has a cooling system including in it by technicians. I think that’s what the stuff on the back is meant for.
@Austin-pv5dp
@Austin-pv5dp Жыл бұрын
If I'm not mistaken I believe that in game it was stated that the Brotherhood got the majority of their T-60 power armor after defeating the Enclave at Adams airforce base
@The_Dude_Rugs
@The_Dude_Rugs Жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure that’s not actually stated in the base game, I downloaded a mod called T-60 lore fix or something like that and it replaces the T-60 at the start of the game with T-51 and adds loading screen lore saying how the brotherhood got the schematics for T-60 which was a pre war prototype from Adams Air Force base and then mass produced it, that might be what you’re thinking of
@KalousTheGuy
@KalousTheGuy Жыл бұрын
In Fallout 4, they hint towards finding some pre-war cache of T-60 near Boston. But beyond that, there's not much there. Bethesda has only ever been good with Skyrim lore imo. But that's because 4 and 76 are lacking in lore. (With plenty of things to charge extra for!)
@Pigness7
@Pigness7 Жыл бұрын
@@KalousTheGuy 76 has exceptionally good power armor lore.
@KalousTheGuy
@KalousTheGuy Жыл бұрын
@@Pigness7 Uhm.. yeah. Okay.
@Pigness7
@Pigness7 Жыл бұрын
@@KalousTheGuy they literally fixed not only the T60 and T51 stat mix up that was in 4 but made my fan theory about X01 canon. so I'd say they did a good job.
@Dartchone
@Dartchone Жыл бұрын
I don't remember where I read it but advanced power armor in fallout 3 was nerfed like really really hard right at end of game development so it's possible it's meant to be a lot harder then it is in finished game and Bethesda forgot to modify npc dialogue. Also hellfire enclave armor was also nerfed later possibly before the post game ending dlc which released with it forgot to balance it.
@DarthWall275
@DarthWall275 Ай бұрын
They should have just made enemies wearing the PA high-level enemies and have the lower rankings use combat Armor and T-51b and introduce "Advanced Power Armor training" which prevents players using it even if they have standard training.
@KeepCalmSoldierOn
@KeepCalmSoldierOn Жыл бұрын
31:31 my theory was this: Virginia Tech and MIT are both prolific engineering schools, MIT made the concept of power armor, which VT then made practical with the T-45 which was manufactured in VA, hence its presence in the east coast. MIT was given DOD funding to continue researching and creating better power armor, and in the short months between Anchorage and the Great War, they developed T-60, which was also manufactured in the East coast, and the brotherhood found it before entering Boston
@E.L.Tigre32
@E.L.Tigre32 Жыл бұрын
My headcannon is that with recruitment and just loss of armor over time, the east coast brotherhood just grabbed whatever power armor they could, likely stopping at pre-war factories to salvage any armor possible. Possibly even restarting some to produce new armor
@shadow-squid4872
@shadow-squid4872 Жыл бұрын
41:22 There are actually two Brotherhood paints that can be acquired by completing the Test Your Metal public event that are exclusive to the T-51 power armour, they’re the paints that Paladin Rahmani and Knight Shin use for their respective suits in the game
@TheBiggyJMan
@TheBiggyJMan Жыл бұрын
Before fallout 4, I never really used power armor. I used it a bit in fallout 3(also my first game) when I first got training but stopped when I was constantly over-encumbered while wearing it. A +2 strength still makes the armor weigh like 20lbs in your inventory which is many times heavier than anything else you could wear. The increased DR just wasn’t worth not being able to carry as much other junk with me. My philosophy on this carried into FoNV where I never even touched it, and completed my entire play through in Benny’s suit, at least until I got stealth armor BAE. Fallout 4 was the first FPS game that made power armor actually useful by making it more of a vehicle than a suit of armor. It’s just such a shame that it was introduced so poorly, because it would’ve been an amazing end/midpoint item to look forward to unlocking. Keep up the good work my dude. I love your videos and look forward to them every week.
@--cobalt--
@--cobalt-- Жыл бұрын
Hey, just wanted to give information that in the event, "test your metal" you have thr ability to get t51 brotherhood power armor
@thee_maj703
@thee_maj703 Жыл бұрын
I think T-45 may be an easy model to repair in the field, since Asher’s armor is held together with strap and salvaged armor still moves. So it would make sense why the brother hood in their bunker facilities would use T-51 with heavy repair shops, but their exploration teams would use T-45
@samuelyoung1
@samuelyoung1 Жыл бұрын
IMO they(east coast brotherhood Lyons) likely had T51 but since they didn't have the equipment to repair it anymore, they took the plates off the frames and replaced it with what they have the stuff to repair and replace in the DC area
@hanzzel6086
@hanzzel6086 Жыл бұрын
But that is debunked by the Appalachian BoS, who made an arguably harder march but kept their T-51. More likely Lyons was given the leftover trash T-45 for his trek. Since said trek's purpose basically boiled down to: "we don't want to risk fighting you, but we do want you dead/gone. So go March across an entire continent without support and set up in the most badly destroyed part of the country (that our records show should be nothing but radioactive craters)."
@LowwkeyyC
@LowwkeyyC Жыл бұрын
Banger videos my man! Very happy I found the channel.
@ericsteenbergen9470
@ericsteenbergen9470 Жыл бұрын
Man some of those T-65 concepts look straight out of Warhammer 40k. Which makes me feel extremely conflicted on whether that is a good or a bad thing. The BoS are definitely an Iron Hands successor.
@Theegreygaming
@Theegreygaming Жыл бұрын
great video as usual Rad. my personal theory for east coast BoS using only T45 was that Lyon's expedition was meant to be a suicide mission in order to get rid of Lyon's ideals, end the Maxson bloodline, and consolidate power with the current regime. none of his troops are seen with even a shred of T51, and no gauss rifles, like you see in the Mohave. since there were previous attempts to only reach as far as the midwest that never returned, it stands to reason that if you have a loud mouth upstart talking about "helping the people" and "recruiting the public" instead of fulfilling your mission, that sending him twice as far as any previous expedition (F76 kindof ruins that pre-established lore a bit, but not terribly so), with the worst gear you have available should take care of that little issue. the only problem was Lyons actually reached his objective, and Arthur Maxson survived the journey so it was all just sort of kicking the can down the road. they could plausibly disavow knowledge of Lyon's actions by claiming contact had been cut, but if/when Lyons died and was replaced with a more "traditional" commander, they could "re-establish comms" with the group. it all seems too convenient that Lyons is so outside of the realm of accepted BoS doctrine, but was also entrusted to care for, and mentor the last Maxson, all while being farther from HQ than any other group, and using exclusively gear which is inferior to what the Mohave uses.
@ikeduno7973
@ikeduno7973 Жыл бұрын
I'm a big fan of T65. I love the lore, it represents some very cool lore added to Fallout via 76, and not much cool lore came from Appalachia in general. Such a cool suit. My head lore says it didn't make it past the Rockys, but suits are waiting under the Denver Mint.
@ThyBluebell
@ThyBluebell Жыл бұрын
Always enjoy listening to our liege while playing a session of Vegas
@Rad_King
@Rad_King Жыл бұрын
Love me some NV
@jaredmooney2938
@jaredmooney2938 Жыл бұрын
Kincaid park in Anchorage used to be a cold war missle defense base, it is full of bunkers and other military buildings. It was known as Point Campbell Military Reservation and had Nike-Hercules surface-to-air missiles. May be a cool place to add into a Fallout set in Alaska. As well as the Army star on the Chugach Mountains.
@jvh3161
@jvh3161 Жыл бұрын
17:01 "i dont have an answer" was immaculately perfectly timed with what happened in game
@legdig
@legdig Жыл бұрын
One thing I always wondered about with power armour is the fact it was mainly used to field weapons that vehicles could no longer transport due to the resource wars, so I wonder if any pre-power armour vehicles had energy weapons that were converted for power armour usage (I imagine the plasma caster falls into this group) i'd kill for a hugeass deathlaser with a chainsaw grip that was once intended for vehicular use.
@cayder7485
@cayder7485 Жыл бұрын
A new radking video on my day off thank you 🔥
@Rad_King
@Rad_King Жыл бұрын
Welcome!
@RheaGotGreened
@RheaGotGreened 7 ай бұрын
My headcanon is that T60 was a design meant for CBRN environments, and built on the base design of the T45. Explains why it isn't quite as armored as T51. A trade off for the extra weight of heavier filtration and support systems. And it explains why the troops stateside had so many. There main threat at home would be riots, so lots of smoke, tear gas, and pepper spray floating around, so it makes sense to issue them with the armor that works better in toxic environments
@randomnerd3402
@randomnerd3402 Жыл бұрын
Waering the Scorched Sierra Power Armor with the restored helmet mod is *chef's kiss* satisfying. Then add the Titans Of The New West mod and it's just perfect.
@East10Outpost
@East10Outpost Жыл бұрын
My favorite power armor in any game is the lonesome road dlc Scorched Sierra Power Armor. Damn it looks slick. Totally worth nuking NCR lol
@TheTacticalApe
@TheTacticalApe Жыл бұрын
22:07 I think that extra stuff on the back could be an ac system that was added so troops wouldn't get so hot in the Mojave
@m60pattoncovidiot29
@m60pattoncovidiot29 Жыл бұрын
I think the fallout 4 assault rifle has some reasons to exist. Water can protect some gamma radiation, so the water cooled barrel could have been used to protect the gun from deteriorating from radiation. The US military probably wanted a gun that could be changed into either a assault rifle or LMG. Still hate it
@Hiihtopipa
@Hiihtopipa Жыл бұрын
And you are right it can protect you need ALOT of it. Just two days ago watched a debunking vid of gamma radiation being stopped by lead and water and other myths. Lead was really bad water is great if you have meters of it. I doubt there is in distance enough of it even to work for radiation protection.
@m60pattoncovidiot29
@m60pattoncovidiot29 Жыл бұрын
@@Hiihtopipa it is supposed to protect against the small amount of radiation left over after the bombs fell
@ItsAVolcano
@ItsAVolcano Жыл бұрын
I'd always assumed the assault rifle just had a giant aluminum shroud like the old Lewis gun. It would be fitting with the weirdly retro tech and would be quite light for its bulk. Of course a water jacket on a rifle would make sense for Fallout logic too.😆
@MediumRareOpinions
@MediumRareOpinions Жыл бұрын
Water cooling is very effective for extended firing, it's just heavy so it was restricted to emplacement guns where a water supply could be hooked up. If you have a powered Exo suit the same set up becomes viable to have in a "hand" held configuration.
@pedrogrotto9177
@pedrogrotto9177 Жыл бұрын
Another reason, that everyone seems to gloss over: Fallout is retro-styled, and Fo4 in specific is VERY American Revolution centric. The Assault Rifle is made that way to look like some WWI era machine guns, like the MG 08 or Lewis Gun
@PerfectTangent
@PerfectTangent Жыл бұрын
It always struck me that the recon armor looked an awful lot like the pilot suit worn by a Glitter Boy pilot from the TTRPG Rifts.
@polloleviatano5754
@polloleviatano5754 Жыл бұрын
Here there are some fun questions that i’d like you, community, to try answer: 1)What are the attachments on top of the power armor helmets? (Aiming system? Heat vision?) 2)How does someone exit the power armor? Are there any visible comands? 3)Where is plugged the fusion core? (The core accommodation has a hole at the bottom) 4)How are the fingers operated? The model only shows a handle bei grabbed (pressure?) 5)How do you turn the torch on? Hidden button? No criticism, just curious about your head canon
@katchupmachined1914
@katchupmachined1914 11 ай бұрын
Fun Fact: If you look at T-65 it actually shares some design elements of both T Series as well as the X-01. Examples I can give are that it has separated eye holes (X-01) BUT an external headlamp (T Series) As well the mouth vent thing on the front is elongated (X-01) but is also connected on either sides with tubing (T-Series)
@neonclear8500
@neonclear8500 Жыл бұрын
You can throw BoS paints on T-51. I know there is a Knight and also a Paladin paint for it at the least.
@haroldcarfrey4206
@haroldcarfrey4206 Жыл бұрын
Also, the power armor suits in and around DC where probably recovered from the National Guard Armories and mobilization centers are older suits not the latest and greatest
@Kellett781
@Kellett781 Жыл бұрын
I have been at this game for 2 months now, and most of that time was spent blasting through the main story quests in 76, as well as connecting and upgrading the various power armor sets. Given the lack of content beyond the story lines, grinding the armor sets became a hobby. And with it, my one true annoyance with 76… no max level T45 armor. As a collector you farm the spawn locations for max armor; mostly within the cran bog. At the BOS outposts you will find max level T60, and 51b. Near the moonshine jamboree Is the only location I’m aware of you can find max level Raider helmet which is level 45. Because of diminishing returns in resistance, and the fact that legendary application is easily achieved, all of the armors are Perry equal. The REAL difference is the availability of the armor’s mods. Raider armor mods can be purchased and price manipulate with perks using caps from a vendor. T45, T51b, T60 mods are purchased from a vendor with caps that can be perk cost manipulated. Ultracite plans are a BOS quest reward and drop. Ultracite armor upgrades plans seem to just be dropped from scorched Queen. X01 plans are a reward for finishing enclave and the upgrades are sold for caps but enclave vendor. The Hellcat shot horns here in that it’s an readily available quest reward for the plans but the get plans for its upgrades, it’s part of the gold bullion grind. The gold grind for T65 and Strangle Heart is absolutely ridiculous, topped only by the sheer stupidity that is the stamp grind for the Union power armor set. But yea , just wear what you want. Far more fun that way
@treylutman1960
@treylutman1960 Жыл бұрын
hey RadKing! the reason ol ney or olney in fallout 3 is the death claw capital of the capital wasteland is because of the enclave im pretty sure. I am pretty sure it’s because they let the death claws loose to kill the nearby vault? if not that i’m 99% sure they let the deathclaws loose on the town itself
@RhelrahneTheIdiot
@RhelrahneTheIdiot Жыл бұрын
7:00 I think this is a case of story and gameplay separation to be honest, like how the Minutemen lost the Castle to a single Mirelurk Queen in canon yet the moment the sole survivor shows up even our tiny squadron is expected to kill it. Canonically the Black Devil PA might actually have that kind of power but in game for balance reasons it doesn't, since you'd become basically immortal with it.
@OmegablueWolf
@OmegablueWolf Жыл бұрын
i suspect that the T-45 for the Lyons brotherhood came from National Guard depots since the army would be transitioning to T-51 and shifting older model suits into important areas of the country and occupied Canada, i would guess there were less T-51 suits....possibly because the army in the region was transitioning over to T-60 or was planing to hence the brotherhood in 4 managing to find so many suits in storage at Adams and other bases.
@anthonyanderson2108
@anthonyanderson2108 Жыл бұрын
I like the power armor that is being used by the brotherhood of steel in fallout 4 because it looks cool, and like it more with the hot roader paint skem
@thecopperowl8386
@thecopperowl8386 Жыл бұрын
Man these videos keep making me want to replay fallout 3
@Rad_King
@Rad_King Жыл бұрын
My plan is working then. Play it!
@thecopperowl8386
@thecopperowl8386 Жыл бұрын
@@Rad_King I have been wanting to destroy the temple of union lately. Maybe I should.
@thescotslair
@thescotslair Жыл бұрын
Its possible that the stuff on the back of the Salvaged Power Armor is a battery to power the life support systems. EMP not doing as much damage still makes sense tho, since the armor wouldn't seize up and axt like a seizure ridden metal coffin.
@Themistocles30
@Themistocles30 Жыл бұрын
The t60 should of been called the t45 mark 2.
@achair7265
@achair7265 Жыл бұрын
With T-60's bulky design it feels more a vehicle. Meant to use heavy weapons exclusively. Not as durable as T-51B but able to bear the weight of it's armament much better than it and T-45. I imagine while soldiers rush in within suits of T-51 having missile launchers and LMGs. T-60 wearers rain down lead and shrapnel with mini guns and auto grenade launchers. All while T-45 troops still use browning machine guns to hold the line defenses.
@Themistocles30
@Themistocles30 Жыл бұрын
@@achair7265 It should of just been an upgraded t45 with bulkier armor and helm.
@achair7265
@achair7265 Жыл бұрын
@@Themistocles30 It's too different to simply be called T-45 mk2. It would be like calling Enclave MK2 power armor X-02 when really under the hood X-01 and MK2 are completely different. Yes they similar in the outer design but one is just not built directly off the other. It's convergent nothing more. T-45 was a stopgap design in lore made in less than a month. In fact early suits didn't even a nuclear power source if I'm correct. T-60 though made most definitely to be a cheaper substitute to T-51B, a stopgap too if so. But you can't simply call it T-45 MK2 with a several year difference and different model(s) between them.
@Themistocles30
@Themistocles30 Жыл бұрын
@@achair7265 You do know that the t60 was going to be the new version of the t45 when the devs were making this game. But they changed it.
@achair7265
@achair7265 Жыл бұрын
@@Themistocles30 You mean a redesign?
@haroldcarfrey4206
@haroldcarfrey4206 Жыл бұрын
The backpack looks like a swamp cooler, a simple way to stay cooler
@Swordbound
@Swordbound Жыл бұрын
I'm not even a huge Fallout fan but I admire the detail in these videos.
@Rad_King
@Rad_King Жыл бұрын
As long as you get something out of it, I am happy.
@Farandil_1
@Farandil_1 Жыл бұрын
I think the Brotherhood of Steel found a working power armor factory and started production.
@ekto250
@ekto250 10 ай бұрын
I feel like the extra stuff at the back of the NCR salvaged power armor is there to replace what the removed electronic system's functions (air filtration, etc)
@MediumRareOpinions
@MediumRareOpinions 10 ай бұрын
And considering the region, probably an expanded water supply/water filtration system.
@matthewmueller2215
@matthewmueller2215 Жыл бұрын
The thing about the T-45 armor and the T-60 armor is funny, cause even though the the brotherhood came entirely in T-60, the brotherhood in fallout 4 came from the capital wasteland from fallout 3! Meaning somehow after the events of 3, they were able to make production factories for the prdwyn and the armors, or they scavenged them somehow. Either way it’s still nuts to see the brotherhood in 4 is from 3.
@hanzzel6086
@hanzzel6086 Жыл бұрын
Here's some headcanon to help with that. After the events of F:3 the BoS find the plans for the T-60 (which is basically an upgrade package for the T-45, developed because of how expensive/resource intense T-51 was), this can either be from The Pentagon databases or one of the Enclave bases. Or from absorbed Enclave remnants (if openly allowed to join). They also seize control/make trade arrangements with The Pitt, giving them access to all the raw materials they could need. They then upgrade all their T-45 to T-60. And now for some BoS headcanon that I wrote for some reason. If you only cared about the PA HC, stop reading now. At some point Maxson's growing fame (due to his numerous feats), charisma, and growing radical views allow him to convince the Outcasts (and a fair few Enclave, in secret if necessary. They might have also infiltrated earlier as well, and might have helped him with all of the previous feats/views) to rejoin the BoS. They immediately get to work radicalizing him further. This swells the BoS's numbers, and with the Capital wasteland pretty much secure, they begin to work on further expanding their influence, resulting in the airship program. But Maxson and his followers are constantly clashing with the BoS proper and the general population, and Elder Lyons begins looking for a way to get him out of the way (without another civil war). Then Eldar Lyons is killed (and maybe Sarah is severely injured, just for a bit more Maxson angst due to his crush on her) in a botched Synth replacement attempt. Giving the new Eldar (Sarah) the perfect excuse to send Maxson and his supporters away to the Commonwealth. And handedly explaining why the F:4 BoS acts more like an Outcast/Enclave hybrid than Lyons BoS, and why they have such a hate boner for Synths and the Institute.
@fanglo
@fanglo Жыл бұрын
I’m thinking that the scrappy armor that carnal royez has is normal armor that he had but then when you nuke him that’s when he starts adding items, since he got nuked
@SKULLTHEWIZARD
@SKULLTHEWIZARD Жыл бұрын
T-65 is close to my favorite but T-51 Ultracit power armor is my favorite.
@SleepingSage308
@SleepingSage308 Жыл бұрын
Say what you will about Fallout 4, but the weapon and armor crafting is just incredible. The segment of dude running around wrecking shit with a plasma powered super sledge one handed is just immaculate.
@shdw787
@shdw787 Жыл бұрын
Just my own opinion but I feel the T-65 is a redesign of Frank Horrigan's power armor from Fallout 2. Perhaps an earlier model even. He was former Secret Service after all.
@cooldudeninja0219
@cooldudeninja0219 Жыл бұрын
I don't know why but RadKing has somewhat converted me or at least taught me to respect the children of atom more then any other faction. I would also like to mention that I've really enjoyed your video mans keep doing what your doing and never change.
@xXxSNIP3RGUYxXx
@xXxSNIP3RGUYxXx Жыл бұрын
I couldn’t agree more! I hope he keeps it up and never changes. Never change.
@Rad_King
@Rad_King Жыл бұрын
Don’t worry friends, it’s Atom forever ☢️
@Boone69
@Boone69 Жыл бұрын
May you bask in Atom's glow☢️
@kurumachikuroe442
@kurumachikuroe442 Жыл бұрын
T60 being more common in Boston could be because Corvega was the one manufacturing it, since we know that industry leaders were working with the army to convert their production lines. And with t45 being so incredibly common, t60 could be based on it, just modified by Corvega themselves to better utilize existing production lines
@dummy_vicc2976
@dummy_vicc2976 Жыл бұрын
honestly the t-65 looks more like it came out of a gundam series compared to the other suits
@hoosierhell7456
@hoosierhell7456 Жыл бұрын
I personally believe the stuff on the back of the NCR Salvaged PA is some sort of cooling system so that the wearer doesn’t overheat
@The_Dude_Rugs
@The_Dude_Rugs Жыл бұрын
With the use of T-45D by Lyons Brotherhood I think the storyteller gave a good explanation with the west coast Brotherhood giving them T-45D out of their reserves as not to risk losing T-51B, I think this is supported by the Mojave chapter having T-45D in limited use. In regards to T-60B I think it was a mistake to make it a mass produced pre war model, I think a better explanation for it is that it was a pre war prototype model that the Brotherhood found the schematics for in Adams Air Force base and then mass produced it, either that or your theory that it could have been an upgrade to T-45D but I think that would only make sense as a post war upgrade by the Brotherhood. In my opinion the pre war US wouldn’t have had time to make so many new varieties of power armour, it was a new technology and so it would not make sense to keep mass producing so many different models, it just makes logistics a nightmare, having T-51B as the power armour used by front line units and the older T-45D being used on the home front or in reserve makes more sense to me. Also T-45A to C were meant to be prototypes that never saw mass production and were not actually practically useable, with the T-45A having a problem of cooking the user due to the huge amounts of heat generated, hence the protective suit that needs to be worn
@MediumRareOpinions
@MediumRareOpinions Жыл бұрын
I attributed the low distribution of T45 Suits in the Mojave chapter to the battle for Helios 1. It would seem likely that less experienced knights would be equipped with the less capable armor and suffered much higher casualties than T 51 equipped Paladins. It would also explain how the NCR has only T45 salvaged armor in its inventory. They struggled to down any of the T51 equipped Brotherhood troops.
@treylutman1960
@treylutman1960 Жыл бұрын
i came to watch this, i subbed and liked the video from your video “ambiguity is the point” i love your content i can’t believe i haven’t found you sooner than this year!
@poromafia
@poromafia Жыл бұрын
There is a unique T-45 helmet/paint job in 76 called "Father winter helmet" It is statically identical to it's regular leveled counterpart, but sports a unique model that resembles the Father winter Fasnact mask. Surprisingly it's a rare reward from the seasonal event "Fasnact"
@theManagemenTT
@theManagemenTT Жыл бұрын
I think it was implied that the Brotherhood found a cache of T-60 after they either defeated the Enclave at Adam’s Air Force Base or during their recon missions into the Commonwealth. But either way though, there was a line by Paladin Danse in Fallout 4 that confirms the Brotherhood don’t produce their T-60 power armor. It went something like, “imagine if the Brotherhood could produce their own power armor, we’d be unstoppable.” And I think he says this when you take him to Corvega Assembly Plant.
@Jh5kRadio
@Jh5kRadio Жыл бұрын
My theory of their (lack of) presence in the Mojave or the West Coast, it's possible that a lot of the older units were moved to the East Coast due to some level of foresight on the Top Brass, as spies and general civil unrest was brewing in the East (this proved correct, as they basically started using T60 in the Commonwealth area). The Shi may have also taken some Power Armour and stripped them off of parts to help create their super-computer. The Master may also have done a bit of experimenting with them too probably.
@connorsproles9239
@connorsproles9239 Жыл бұрын
I think its more probable that the Brotherhood found a stockpile of T-60 rather than just made them. Especially since T-60 is so much of an upgrade compared to T-45. Airships to power armor is a centuries long gap. I suppose its possible that they found the original factory and restored it, but I think it's a stretch to say they went from where we say them in fallout 3, to a society capable of replicating the cutting edge of pre war America in just 10 years. In the end I have no more proof for my theory then yours though, so either theory could be "true."
@tristanseaver9054
@tristanseaver9054 Жыл бұрын
The only T-series I want to see!
@alexnitaly764
@alexnitaly764 Жыл бұрын
At this point it feels like T-45 was treated as a Surplus in massive quantities while it was being replaced by T-51 from the war in Alaska
@scubasteve4355
@scubasteve4355 Жыл бұрын
I always figured that with the salvaged power armor, the NCR only stripped out the more advanced electrical/hydraulic systems, and left the basic movement assistance. Otherwise, it seems like the salvaged power armor would have no benefit over metal armor.
@Dawg.Wit.
@Dawg.Wit. Жыл бұрын
Ah yes, T85 power armor, released 75 seconds before the great war, and saw extensive use in the ambiguous front lines🗿
@jonesy279
@jonesy279 Жыл бұрын
I love the design of T-65! I always prefer chonky armour/mech suits/etc.
@RebelFNOS
@RebelFNOS Жыл бұрын
The back pieces on the salvaged power armor seem like they'd be a water tank and (potentially) a storage pack
@bradleyrutledge
@bradleyrutledge Жыл бұрын
There actually are Two Brotherhood of Steel paintjobs exclusive to the T-51b in Fallout 76, you can get the Knight and Paladin paints as a potential reward for the event "Test Your Metal"
@ItsYourImpersonator
@ItsYourImpersonator 6 ай бұрын
T-51 is usually the main in 76 with the Knight Shin Paint
@twistedyogert
@twistedyogert Жыл бұрын
I like how angular the plates are on some of the armors. The angular shape makes it harder for projectiles to go through it. Even shaped charges wouldn't be able to easily go through. Although the joints are probably soft spots.
@Sravan.Allopi
@Sravan.Allopi 6 ай бұрын
Thankfully the mod: Tale of Two Wastelands solves the lore question about T45d, it replaces the standard T45d power armour that BOS wear with the higher ranked soldiers wearing T51b which is pretty dope. Lots of cool lore friendly weapons added into the game too.
@themajor2830
@themajor2830 Жыл бұрын
My best inference of why the T-45 is used by the East Coast “Brotherhood” is the suits were most likely National Guard/Reservist or possibly State Defense Force equipment. As for why the ECB only have it, I can only assume due to the extreme attrition due to the large number of zombies and muties in DC and the March to the former Capital. As for why the West Coast Brotherhood lacks it, I can only assume that with the relatively large stockpiles of more advanced armor, the T-45 would be relegated to second line units, or as training armor, which might explain why the NCR has such a large amount of salvaged armor, since the armor would not be in use, and thus captured intact, or the users were less skilled, and thus easier to get the armor from their corpses.
@MediumRareOpinions
@MediumRareOpinions Жыл бұрын
Could well be that 45 models were lost at a high attrition rate during the battle for Helios 1, leaving the surving Brotherhood with little of it left.
@codypainter3905
@codypainter3905 Жыл бұрын
I’m typing this at the very beginning of the video; I was a kid I came I up with a theory pre-fallout 4, that the chest handle on T-45D was a late war addition used to drag injured soldiers away since it’s stated or at least, I’m pretty sure it was, that T-45D was taking heavier casualties leading to the development of T-51B
@God-Emperor_Elizabeth_the_2nd
@God-Emperor_Elizabeth_the_2nd Жыл бұрын
The salvaged armour’s back gizmos would (this at least makes sense to me) be the chemical packs for a rebreather setup.
@MAXWELL_Productions
@MAXWELL_Productions 5 ай бұрын
Hi I know this is a very old video but I know a great video you can do it is going over the pre war fallout and the after fallout universe
@thedipermontshow
@thedipermontshow Жыл бұрын
Ngl, the T-51b still is my favourite power armor.
@salutations_constipation
@salutations_constipation Жыл бұрын
Another great video rad king. Keep it up
@Rad_King
@Rad_King Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@mcpossum
@mcpossum Жыл бұрын
Happy Saturday everyone
@Rad_King
@Rad_King Жыл бұрын
Happy Saturday!
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