The Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles started out very different from what you may remember!

[@vds4327]

"It seems that Shreder has been shredded" 💀

[@-Sleepless-ink-]

Omg no😂😂😂😂

[@samuelmbila5583]

That line was quite savage of Leo🔥

[@Margulan217]

☠️

[@RogerZapp]

"looks like shadow just came from the shadows"

[@spiderjohney9805]

Leo did not cook with that one💀

[@ThatKidAlix]

Ninja turtle now: 🟥🟦🟪🟧 Ninja turtle then: 🟥🟥🟥🟥

[@JayJones-nm2dk]

everybofy was raphael gawd dayum

[@FirstnameLastname-my7bz]

In one of covers Raphael's bandana is purple so main color is either red or purple (because on TMNT #1 4th edition (first ever colored image of all) cover ALL ninjas ie Shredder , Turtles and Foot wear red clothing only, and in 87 cartoon Shredder's and Foot's color is purple), which also fits considering that Eastman's favorite is Raph, while Laird's favorite is Don!

[@FirstnameLastname-my7bz]

Correction : Raphael's bandana is purple is on the 1985 cover of Raphael the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle where he and Casey Jones hold guns insted of melee weapons (it is just cool cover, but actually in original comics Turtles used guns sometimes , like in TMNT #5).

[@jasonbethea7929]

Black Air Force teenage mutant ninja turtles

[@Tortaviejo123-cb8me]

It always bothered me as a kid that everyone looked like Raph XD

[@mythic6632]

Literally, the coldest version of the turtles. These guys are straight assassins sent by Splinter for revenge and to do his dirty work. No questions asked. They fight with honour and drop corny lines every so often. The formula is all there. My favourite incarnation right next to 2003.

[@The_Blue_Otaku]

I mean the whole first four or five seasons of TMNT 2003 are based on the original 1984 comics (sure they change a few things for the 2003 series like making Shredder an Utrom warlord that was stuck on Earth)

[@mythic6632]

@@The_Blue_Otaku Completely different tone, atmosphere, and story.

[@FirstnameLastname-my7bz]

This was really just #1 and some of #2 issue, later on they go softer and more diverse towards each other in terms of personality, and I was even surprised that they don't even outright kill That much as I would expected. Of course there can be a fan headcanon theory that April softened them and humanized them more, but that's only assumptions at this point, unless there is Laird+Eastman+whoever worked on further issues opinion , and I mean collective opinion because it is clear that Laird and Eastman don't share one opinion,let alone other guys. You will see how #1 till #4 they have pointy noses, but after #5 they have more round noses. Also get this : there are 3 official versions of TMNT #1 in full color, by 1StFirst Comics (try libgеn, don't even google it), Mirage Comics and IDW Comics + The first ever colored image of Shredder and Foot ninjas And Turtles on 4th edition of TMNT #1 cover , and.... ALL 4 of these have either Shredder or Foot Ninja colored differently in different way. And 1StFirst (Shredder in all red, with naked muscles, Foot in Red top with black pants) and IDW versions (fully black Shredder with covered muscles and Foot are all black either) were made with Eastman and Eastman-only repsectively, while Mirage Comics (Shredder in all red with open muscles and Foot in all black) version was made with Laird-only. While 4th edition of TMNT #1 (Shredder in all red with open muscles, Foot in all red and Turtles have exactly same red bandana with green shells) was made when Eastman and Laird were completely together. Just as an example of creative differences.

[@themonstergamer5441]

I feel like the first Live action TMNT movie did a good job adapting a mixture of this comic and 80s show. Tbh I would like to see someone like amazon do an animated series that is faithful to the orginal comic.

[@dollarbincomicwin]

I'd agree with you there. It's definitely a good blend. I wish someone would! It's ripe for picking. As long as Nickelodeon will play ball with someone else.

[@RndomCrp]

Well...

[@striderhiryu2]

Amazon and faithful do not mix togueter.

[@ironmaster6496]

I mean the 2003 show is basically that, there are some differences (Shredder's resurrection is way better and less stupid in the show than in the comics) but it really is the comic on the screen

[@johnnygyro2295]

You might like the 2003 animated series then. While it did change some things, it adapted a lot from the comics. For example, Karai first shows up in the City At War story arc, like in the comics, but reimagined as Shredder's adopted daughter, something the 2012 series would also do.

[@tacticalninja7739]

Bruh they was ruthless💀💀💀

[@dollarbincomicwin]

🚫🧢 Turtles were handing out the FAFO awards that night

[@reignellwalker9755]

lol

[@reignellwalker9755]

God bless you and Jesus loves you very much, that is why he died for our sins. He took our punishment upon himself and he rose from the dead 3 days later. By putting your faith in him you will be saved, God bless!

[@Mrmoonman64]

​@@reignellwalker9755Amen!

[@sobhan1218]

I had a stroke reading this

[@samuelmbila5583]

OG Turtles were my favorite incarnations😁

[@BlackPrince24]

Imagine if we got an animated show based on their original comics and it broadcast in Adult Swim

[@dollarbincomicwin]

😳😳🤯 That would be amazing! Like a Hit-Monkey TMNT! Alright, let’s get this made, people!!! How do we start a petition?!

[@DC.IWarDance]

We kind of did already in the 2003 TMNT series they took about 80% of the original comic and made a show out of it with 20% difference

[@kylmon4759]

@@DC.IWarDance That show is *Not* tha fuccing comics.. They wusn puttin their weapons thru tha inside of no ones fuccing jaw gtfo here “90%” that’s insane gang

[@Hamilton-The-Unstoppable.]

Not Adult Swim tho I was thinking 4 Kids.

[@jasonbethea7929]

I’d watch that.

[@DarkestMarlin74]

Kinda reminds me of how Gojira was originally made as a grim film about the after-effects of nuclear testing (awakening a prehistoric terror that seeks revenge on humanity for destroying its habitat and for disturbing its millions-of-years-long slumber), but eventually changed into a goofball series in the '70s (looking at you Minilla), and then being recognised as a badass dinosaur that saves humanity from other monsters (losing the characteristics of the first Gojira film).

[@aaronjohnson7258]

It's so weird someone looked at this and said: "this would make for a great kids show!"

[@dollarbincomicwin]

😂 Source material for kids movies and shows are definitely questionable at minimum. I feel the same way when I see what my kid's watch nowadays. Also, I'm old now.

[@TheTimbs_]

Just like Jhonen Vasquez

[@TanticHero]

And the weirder part is it did

[@Tortaviejo123-cb8me]

I mean this was the period when R rated violent movies like Rambo and Robocop were turned into cartoons and toys were produced like crazy out of these. 80s kids were wild back then 😂

[@crunchytrojan]

I feel like the 2003 show is the closest we’ll ever get to an og turtles adaptation

[@jasonbethea7929]

The comic turtles are built different

[@GodzillaFandom_Editz]

2003 tmnt is same like comic

[@DjGreen-f8z]

This short is awesome, I seriously watch this over and over, thanks to you dude, I know the first Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles media, I constantly ask my Mom to buy this comic book for me. Have a great day y'all 👍🏾

[@muhammadaveromugi]

Back then TMNT is good and don't get nerfed, GREAT

[@yoda5436]

i'll be honest, tho this is dark it does make more sense than every villain just conveniently dying on their own to keep the turtles' hands clean

[@dollarbincomicwin]

Very true!! I like that take.

[@LizzysGotZeroRiz]

The only TMNT comic I ever had the guts to read was the last ronin- I cried for about an hour- and then proceeded to re-read it...

[@dollarbincomicwin]

It's a great story!! I'm so glad to hear you enjoyed it. There are a lot of TMNT runs, but I'd suggest the latest IDW run that is still ongoing if you enjoyed The Last Ronin.

[@LizzysGotZeroRiz]

@@dollarbincomicwin ohh ok that sounds interesting thanks! If it's anything like the last ronin I know it'll be awesome

[@marcussantos4816]

I am so glad I started reading the comics in 2020. Don’t get me wrong I love the turtles when they have their humor and stuff but love I when they are dark and gritty and I can think of 3 sets of turtle media that had some influence from the comics. The 90 movie, 2003 series, and the 2012 series.

[@Clone....]

Tbh id watch this if it was a show

[@Deeman505]

I'm dad told me about the og turtles, these guys were brutal!

[@dollarbincomicwin]

Probably the most brutal (that I’ve seen from TMNT) was the Image run where one of the Turtles became a cyborg after losing half his body and it just keeps going from there.

[@kylewarren5268]

I also remember when raph was the leader. I miss leader raph

[@DaffyDuck2375]

Bro why did they make a kids show over a gruesome comic🙌😭

[@dollarbincomicwin]

It’s a trend! Compared to the Grimm tales that Disney adapted, this is pretty tame 😂

[@BiscutStud1os]

These tmnt Comic’s are SOO GOOD!!! I wasn’t a fan of the turtles until I read there first appearance mirage issues. I like the issue we’re they got teleported to another universe and they meet Honeycut and they have to rescue him in the next issue from the Tricaretons.

[@dollarbincomicwin]

Same!! Such a great change of pace by that issue.

[@crashingblow3753]

Reminds me of how The Mask movie from Jim Carrey also started out as a very dark and gritty comic series. My first exposure to The Mask was from the Jim Carrey movie, so I think it should be obvious how shocked and confused I was to learn how a PG-13 action comedy movie came from a very dark adult comic series. Not just that but how different it was. Just to name one example, the main character Stanley Ipkiss is not so lighthearted in the comic as he is in the movie. Heck, he doesn't even have that much screentime in the comics. Same thing with the TMNT. I find it fascinating yet a little confusing how they managed to turn something that was first a dark adult thing and turned into something more friendly for all ages. Sure, unlike the ninja turtles, The Mask was still a little mature even on the movie since it was PG-13, but it was not as bad as it was in the comic from what I saw.

[@dollarbincomicwin]

I haven’t read The Mask at all but I’m definitely diving in after this. It’s is pretty crazy how children’s movies/series/songs come from some REALLY dark places

[@wyldelf2685]

These first few issues are SACRED HOWLOWED GROUND , , , these mean a lot to me , ,I was born in 1977 , , , some of you might be just as young as me , 😸👍👍

[@dollarbincomicwin]

The first few issues are absolute grails. To help explain to others, what makes them so special to you and why should anyone feel the same?

[@sieman78]

Man, born in 78" here. I remember that graphic novel collection of the 2nd arc after they defeated Shredder. I borrowed it from a classmate and went to the library and zerox copied each, damn page. So I had a stack 3 times the size of the book black and white zerox haha!

[@sieman78]

@@dollarbincomicwin ...The art style, unique characters, the ninja lore.

[@wyldelf2685]

@@sieman78 ah yes excellent 😸👍

[@wyldelf2685]

@@dollarbincomicwin I don't know how to make anyone ""feel the same"" they would first have to appreciate the importance of the very first issues and the first 1980s Animated series, , that swept the globe creating the Fanbase in the first place , , , , but after 1998 there are just too many Reboots , , , original Fanbase respected canon , but like so many superhero comics today ,it is almost impossible to find true canon in Reboot-worship trend society we seem to find ourselves in today , ,like if you walk down a Subway tunnel long enough you might find yourself waist deep in a sewer , , ,that's how today feels , 🐢🥜🥜🥜🥜🤔

[@someloser2847]

Comics turtles seems to take itself a bit too seriously

[@dollarbincomicwin]

Looking at it now, it definitely feels that way. Originally, the comic was written as a parody of a Daredevil. It’s got it’s hooks in me. The IDW series is excellent.

[@wyldelf2685]

​@@dollarbincomicwin the gritty 1980s Comics are SACRED and they made the path for everything that followed , , , FN Cowabunga , 🐢🐢🐢🐢 , 👍😸👍

[@dollarbincomicwin]

@@wyldelf2685 Can't argue with that! It's interesting to see the differences that occur every decade with the comics/shows/movies.

[@davidhamm4845]

That's good tho

[@Tampabruh]

DUH, the definition of a ninja is an a train warrior assassin! They are serious the live and die to kill, cause harm and destroy! Not to be kid friendly figures! That's why TMNT name is changed in certain regions of the world to be Teenage Mutant Hero Turtles. Because the term ninja means something serious or negative and they don't want to market that to younger audiences!

[@Hrayr22321]

・_・wow that took a dark turn

[@starvoltnexus3139]

Does the comic Splinter even love his Children

[@dollarbincomicwin]

He's a rat bastard!

[@dollarbincomicwin]

But, to answer honestly, yes. It really depends on which era you're talking about. This doesn't show any love and was never meant to. However, the more you read and the further we get away from this first series we start seeing more of a family-oriented bond between Splinter and the turtles and in some series they are literally father and sons.

[@starvoltnexus3139]

@@dollarbincomicwin like Rise and that’s good to know

[@dollarbincomicwin]

@@starvoltnexus3139 Rise is a good example of them being a family unit. As for literal father/sons, the 2012 animated series on Nickelodeon and the recent IDW comic book series is about them being reincarnated from a family in feudal Japan. I think it works really well along with the Shredder drama. I would highly suggest both series.

[@wyldelf2685]

Yo , , IDW is equal to fan fiction , , ,hell might as well write your own TMNT stories they will be the same level of canon , , , , unless you actually get Kevin Eastman or Peter Laird to co-write it with you , then it will be legit , , ,😎

[@FirstnameLastname-my7bz]

They weren't brainwashed. Just different culture.

[@CaSeYtImEBoY]

Them all having red masks💀

[@dollarbincomicwin]

Definitely makes it pretty difficult to know who’s who at first.

[@thatguyap_]

Yeah the only way to tell them apart is the weapons. And the comic used to be Black and White 😂

[@GenniSmith]

i would like to see a movie or tv show about these comics

[@dollarbincomicwin]

I don’t know… a show about Ninja Mutant Turtle Teenagers?? It’ll never catch on. For real, this original run would be amazing as an adult animated series!

[@dollarbincomicwin]

@@iancruz6617 Not since I was a kid. I’ve been watching bits along with my daughter and forgot how good it is. I really don’t think there is any need to have a turtle measuring contest. TMNT is generational. What Person A feels is the “true” TMNT may be completely different than the “true” TMNT for Person B. And, that’s okay. My daughter is obsessed with TMNT. Her favorites bounce between the 2023 new movie and the 2012 tv series. I don’t think that makes her less of a fan than anyone else. To each their own. No gatekeeping needed.

[@Fortuna_716]

I think think need to make an open world assassins creed type game instead of God of War style like they're talking about. Where you can climb buildings and go in the sewers, skate etc and people would react the way they normally would if they saw a turtle so stealth would be huge.

[@dollarbincomicwin]

Agreed! That would be the type of game I’d want to play as a Ninja Turtle. I’ll take the God of War one if that’s what they’re giving us. Heck, personally, I’d LOVE a TellTale-esque game like Wolf Among Us.

[@ryanward652]

That’s dark!

[@striderhiryu2]

Aeesome

[@candacewisdom5153]

That's really messed up

[@MatthewTheWolf2029]

Wow. Pretty dark origins.

[@dollarbincomicwin]

Definitely so compared to the cartoons

[@thatwasawesomedude8883]

Badass tmnt.....even if the drawings were not that great

[@joshua5555]

they were never "brainwashed". Splinter taught them discipline and character. Shredder killed Hamato Yoshi, who was Splinter's master and killed Tang Shen. Oruku Saki was evil. they fought Shredder honorably and they won.

[@ryanmoore5237]

You forgot animal abuse 😂

[@dollarbincomicwin]

@@ryanmoore5237 😂 ⭐️

[@toomuchnewtoys]

Is that Hawkeye 😂

[@jackko21]

I wish we could get a faithful adaptation of these comics instead of fucking mutant mayhem

[@vitarz]

Why do they all have red masks.

[@anonluxor470]

This is how they originally looked they wore red before going mainstream

[@maxxiepoo3998]

did take seppuku … shane

[@G.M.C2005]

Wow… dark

[@dollarbincomicwin]

Very different compared to what I knew of the Turtles as a kid

[@JoshTha1]

Who else wants to see this movie?🙋‍♂️

[@jamesmattila-hine1133]

Actually could you clear something up for me I had someone try and tell me that their very first edition of the Ninja Turtles they were 8 foot tall. I don't think that's true but here's the perfect chance to get the answer

[@dollarbincomicwin]

From what I’ve seen, they started out as around 3-4 foot tall which could make sense if you look at panels of them standing next to April in the original second issue. Now, they have grown in stature over the years putting that at around 5-6 foot, depending on the depiction.

[@mp29940]

Your so cool for letting us all know. Lol

[@dollarbincomicwin]

Aww shucks!

[@nagacs5594]

but there teenagers...💀

[@SalikCollins]

So?

[@tyronleung5276]

Why last ronin game when we could have a triple A Mirage game

[@dollarbincomicwin]

Ooo I love the idea of a Last Ronin game but that Mirage game sounds pretty sweet, too!

[@tyronleung5276]

@DollarBinComicWin last ronin really doesn't have anything going for it but character we have yet to see deathworm in lost years, a baxter who works for the foot rather than being a villian who works on his own and turns himself into a cyborg after working with d.a.r.p.a. and hiroto oroku a retconned grandson for shredder whos not even related to karai in mirage continuity. as bosses with april & casey Marie mpc's and no world building just a cyberpunk 2077 new york and enemies being robot ninjas and flying mousers. in mirage you already have 30 years of mirage and image comics to pull from that has a world already built, such as several maps that could be adapted such as caseys farm the forrest and the town in Massachusetts, planet dahoonib that features the alien cantina homage to mos isley cantina where the tmnt first met sal the robot / professor honeycut fugitoid, the triceraton and utrom home worlds, not just New York manhattan as maps to explore in a triple A open world game that could be side missions or dlc maps like insomniac spiderman or gta5. You have April's Volkswagen mini bus or utrom transmat as transversal or fast travel. you have characters that are exclusive to mirage that has never been used in other forms of tmnt media in favor for over saturating the market with the 87 cartoon continuity from deminsion x and archie mutanimal 87 mutagen gimmick characters and no adaptation of characters from mirage who are so unknown and had a limited cameo in the 2003 or 2012 series or were replaced with new characters because the mature themes in mirage such as; 1)Orroku Nagi the older brother of saki, Tang Shen and Hamato Yoshi who all three has potential for character development to expand upon the foot in mirage history and give orroku saki back story since theres very little to go off of his life in mirage who were all killed off in the prolouge of the turtles origin or first issue. 2) the justice force (stainless steel Steve, metal head, battling Bernice, captain deadbolt zippylad Joey lastic and dr dome and his domebots*) 3) radical aka dr raven shadowheart/hazel McIntyre the native american superheroine and her arch enemy complete carnage from tales of the tmnt #5 4) the mistress/ head hunter tang Amaya tales of the tmnt vol 2 #22 5) Gosei hattori from tmnt the passing 6) shredder elite worm clones who deserves to be sub bosses 7) zog the triceratons and the triceraton gladiators that deserves to be playable or to be mpc bosses 8) complete carnage 9) Lucindra raphaels black female human ally 10) savanti romero savanti julliet lord simultaneous and renet 11) leatherhead rat king nobody purple dragons hunter mason the doomsday preper militia c.r.a.p. vampires, etc etc. you have skins in the turtles history to choose from such as the turtles could wear for the first time the michael zuli souls winter look where they all have katanas and look monsterous , the richard corben look, the concept art look, the return to new york look, michael dooney eric talbot jim lawson ac farley etc looks, the wrestling costumes that were supposed to originally be in the mirage comics but was used in the Archie adventures series comics, you have the image / urban legends comics look with hockey mask raph or shredder raph cyborg dog one hand leo. What do you have for last ronin but a limited game that's only adapting fairly new storyline killing off all the turtles and replacing them with a new generation of tmnt smh?

[@tyronleung5276]

@DollarBinComicWin I can think of plenty of things a mirage triple A tmnt game could have than a god of war inspired the last ronin tmnt game

[@dollarbincomicwin]

@@tyronleung5276 I love this idea. Hopefully they'll do something like this in the future!

[@fnibbit]

I'm still kinda confused how you tell them all apart when they all have red masks haha, I've just started reading the idw comics and don't get it

[@dollarbincomicwin]

In the original series, it wasn’t very easy if you couldn’t see their weapons or if they didn’t directly call each other by name. If there was a full body shot and (for example) you saw katanas, then you knew it was Leo. As for the IDW series, I may have misunderstood but I think you saying that you can tell them apart there but compared to the original, it’s more difficult to tell? If so, then that’s definitely the same way I felt at first, too. I never got into Power Rangers as a kid and am trying to read the series and it feels super confusing right now. Gonna give it another shot soon. #nevergiveup Let me know where you are and what you think! I love this current IDW run.

[@fnibbit]

@@dollarbincomicwin I had literally just started reading the original idw comic when they were all wearing red but now they have different colors where I am. Sorry I wasn't very clear. I'm planning to read as many of the comics from over the years as I can and it will likely take ages haha

[@dollarbincomicwin]

@@fnibbitOh gotcha! Let me know your thoughts as you go along. There’s so much goodness!

[@ethanbutton3501]

It’s actually pretty easy to tell them apart the longer u read u get a different feel by faces and how they phrase there words

[@Batmaximilian]

Short answer: Adult Sigma turtles Edit: I really like the idea of making them more ruthless and more like real combat Turtles. We need more ruthless story’s of them. I think The last Ronin is a good example of that.

[@dollarbincomicwin]

Did you ever read the Image series of them or the rerun IDW of that series called “TMNT: Urban Legends”? It’s definitely NOT for kids.

[@Batmaximilian]

@@dollarbincomicwin To be fair, I read more Dc,Star Wars but I am also a big fan of the ninja turtles 🐢 so I think I have some story’s in my grandma’s garage.

[@anomalocaris2593]

I mean is it really brain washing considering they were just raised to to do it? Samurai and ninja in real world were raised same way and most of them did it just because they were raised seek honor in their practice. With this logic making kids do pledge of allegiance and sing national anthem is brain washing as well? Pls don't agree with the last point, it is a terrible take

[@dollarbincomicwin]

Great points! As for Splinter and the turtles, you’re probably right that it wouldn’t be “brainwashing” if they were raised that way from birth. Maybe manipulation is better? Could just be a poor word choice on my part. Haha I’ll leave that last point alone. Back to reading for me!

[@anomalocaris2593]

@@dollarbincomicwin I mean like I said they were just raised. They made their own choices and followed through

[@RaiderFace7-16]

I didnt know they started in comics I thaught they started with the tv show

[@dollarbincomicwin]

It started with comics in 1984 but the first cartoon premiered in 1987 so it was a pretty quick development, all things considered.

[@SymbioteMaster4]

that is incredibly anti-climactic.

[@DragonAlchemist0]

Brain washed. Just like going to church, school, etc. Yes splinter did raise them carryout Vengeance for his master. I am not justifying it.

[@dollarbincomicwin]

That’s a fair point. Anything someone teaches/trains you to do/believe could be seen as brainwashing. I suppose it depends on if it’s based on facts, beliefs, or self-serving wants.

[@SalikCollins]

That's true, but hey, they avenged master yoshi.

[@trent7736]

I didn't grow up watching that rubbish 80's cartoon

[@dollarbincomicwin]

I watched the one from the 90s, technically. If not TMNt, what was your show?

[@tyronleung5276]

​@@dollarbincomicwin what next mutation?

[@tyronleung5276]

We grew up with 2003 tmnt which is more faithful to the comics than the first film

[@dollarbincomicwin]

@@tyronleung5276 I never watched it myself. What are your thoughts on it?

[@dollarbincomicwin]

@@tyronleung5276 That was a good series. I was rewatching some of it with my daughter and really enjoyed it.

[@redchariots5428]

Sooo, a Naruto knockoff?

[@dollarbincomicwin]

Huh, I’m not familiar but you’ve peaked my interest.

[@alfredojacome2027]

How is it even like Naruto plus TMNT was first

[@anonluxor470]

TMNT came out in the 80s Naruto came out in the late 90s early 2000s

[@MattyGears1583]

This was 20 years before Naruto, weeb.

[@redchariots5428]

@@MattyGears1583 🤔

[@shangfukickassallday]

Where can I read the coloured comics online

[@dollarbincomicwin]

There are a few options but I’m seeing that Hoopla has the original volumes (not confirmed on my end)