The Terminator 1984 Tech Noir bar scene (proper VHS version)

[@metaldude8726]

I wish I could have seen this in the cinema's back in 1984

[@shanerollins3736]

You and me both.

[@classic1971]

Yes me to but was not allowed.

[@Hasoon-os4id]

Me fourth

[@SirCraigius]

Me too, but considering I was only 3, it would have probably have been lost on me.

[@alexpappa9691]

Facts, the original mono audio must’ve been in very good crystal clear quality in the cinema

[@chrisanderson7984]

Love the VHS version. Watched it a million times as a kid

[@LITTLE1994]

Same

[@hectorlopez1069]

and having nightmares too as a kid.

[@xarcade360]

I think on the next Blu-ray anniversary they should do a tech-noir edition where they have the VHS cut on a separate disk and the fully restored and mastered on the other disk I'd buy that for a dollar sorry wrong film😂

[@orlandoprude3341]

Who you telling

[@curtissmith7297]

That piece of music when Reese and Sarah see one another with the club music in the background is absolutely epic!

[@delboy-su3wf]

I new there was always something that felt different. Not shore if it was seeing it on TV or a download copy. I just remember at one time it making me fell different the scene and seeing it over a year back and seeing something wasn't right. I'm getting rid of liafs if videos me dad left at mine years ago. Terminator is in it. Will keep it. Wish could sell or give away the others. It's a shame with dvds etc they mess around with classics you loved

[@arnoldjack7956]

Everything and I mean EVERYTHING about this scene is epic!!

[@hectorlopez1069]

That is absolutely true, wow, movies were done so right.

[@orlandoprude3341]

No matter how old this film gets it will always be a raw classic i swear how them bullets going off man i tell ya this that shit right here i love this movie

[@bozotheclown169]

1:55 OOH-ZEE NINE MILLIMEADER TIME

[@leegsy]

I love this audio. When I first saw The Terminator on DVD I was shocked at how different it sounded. The scene where Terminator bursts through the 1st Sarah Connor's door and kills her just sounds wrong. And the shootout at the police station sounds vastly different. Obviously a new sound mix is usually a good thing about a movie rereleased on DVD or BR but it just doesn't work for this movie.

[@shanerollins3736]

They've upgraded a 1.0 Mono track to 2.0 Stereo, 4.0 Stereo Surround, or 5.1 Digital Surround, depending on which copy you have. Also, the track was converted from analog to digital, which results in a loss of quality. There was a PCM track (analog) encoded onto the Blu-Ray (digital) from 2015. (This is according to the package; this track is nowhere to be found on the disc.) As you can guess, the end result wasn't pretty. The only copies with the mono track are the VHS tapes, the original Betamax tape, and the original HBO laserdisc.

[@delboy-su3wf]

@@shanerollins3736 what about the 2001 dvd special edition I'm reading it's the same. The scene were rece looks at Sarah when watched a year ago dudnt fell the same something was missing of how it felt in past watching it. Edit the fucking uk 2001 special edition isn't this

[@sryan9213]

@@shanerollins3736 the Image Entertainment DVD retains the original audio

[@DirtyDan1]

@@shanerollins3736 false. I have a dvd copy with original mono.

[@voorhes80]

@@DirtyDan1 Me too. I have the 2001 dvd edition with the original mono track and it sounds quite good. The 2015 release also includes the mono track.

[@robertpollock1986]

original and best version

[@insigniamediapro]

Still holds up in 2019

[@gregorbegger9291]

Old films still hold up no matter what

[@williamdon3442]

2021

[@shaunyb2011]

@@williamdon3442 2023!

[@nabeelahmed799]

Still hold up 😂😂😂

[@hectorlopez1069]

Michael biehn was so badass to play the good guy, Kyle Reese. He nailed that character.

[@TheSpacey52]

I still have my vhs copy from the 80s, even though I was born in 1991

[@AB3L30NE]

@@dakotathompson2001 Your birthday is in a couple days.

[@hectorlopez1069]

The year Arnold did terminator 2.

[@Goatboysminion]

I have to admit....I still laugh at the mileage the Terminator gets out of that first 32 round magazine!🤣

[@masonf7332]

As much as I LOVE this movie, I will admit, the one and only thing that kinda ticks me off is the unrealistic ammo capacity and reloading in this, like you mentioned in this scene, or especially that scene in the police station when he only reloaded like once the entire time but in reality with how many times he’s fired he woulda been reloading like 5 times at least lmao

[@Goatboysminion]

@@masonf7332 Hollywood is godawful when it comes to endless ammo

[@redpillfreedom6692]

Plus Reese's Ithaca can apparently hold 11 slugs

[@UnchainedEruption]

@@masonf7332 It's a movie. If it had realistic ammo counts it would be pretty boring and repetitive seeing constant reloading.

[@BPKPhoenix]

After the initial 5 shots from the Ithaca, the T-800 returned with its volley as Reese was ducking out of that hail. He's seen firing one shot after there was a short pause, probably got one shell loaded in. After a few moments of him running and dolphin diving to another piece of cover, he could have had reloaded another 5 shots right before springing back out to unload the last 5. As for the Uzi, yeah lmao. Not everything can be realistic and this was 1977 where you don't really see much reloading in movies of the time in general. Just an infinite ammo cheat code. Commando comes to mind.

[@fylecabagnot5703]

Terminator never got BOUNCED in, but BOUNCED out!!!!

[@007beck9]

I think the good thing about VHS it made the film or darker and scarier.

[@jimbodjango8900]

Agreed

[@RobertK1993]

240p resolution

[@LITTLE1994]

The original 240p resolution is what makes it so analog and makes the atmosphere seen what it was meant to be shown back in 1984.

[@Ballowax]

@@LITTLE1994 actually it's 480i not 240p but it still a fizzy video recording

[@finngerme4533]

@@Ballowax vhs is not 480i lmao

[@LukeLovesRose]

The Terminator is possibly the greatest "B-movie" ever made. By that i mean, it is the greatest low-budget sci-fi ever produced. The Terminator is a great inspiration for future filmmakers. Cameron showed us what can be possible on a small budget and its freaking amazing. T2 on the other hand is the greatest action movie ever made. Cameron showed us whats possible once youve established yourself in the industry. And its freaking phenomenal. I just wish we could get a new 5.1 remix for The Terminator. The .45 longslide should sound like a freaking cannon. The audience should be just as shocked and stunned by that weapon as the 35 year old Sarah Connors neighbors after the Terminator blew her head off. Theres an interesting deleted scene revealing the aftermath where Sarah Connors neighbors are running around in complete panic mode. But the newest 5.1 remix makes all of these bad**s weapons sound like squeaky toys, including the shotguns. You cant feel anything from a sound effect like that.

[@chrisanderson7984]

Love the slow motion when The Terminator finally sees Sarah and coming towards her like an animal to prey @1:00

[@mikeowen7526]

I had the pleasure of watching the vhs version back in 1984 Excellent

[@hectorlopez1069]

The actors did an amazing job for this Terminator movie. Wow, you don't see this kind of films on TV, anymore.

[@wesmonkress2169]

Thanks for the original sound. You're our hero

[@insigniamediapro]

10/10, can still remember watching this as a 9 year old and being mesmorised

[@futureshock7425]

Insignia Entertainment I will never forget the sound of Kyles shotgun in the unaltered original mix, Boom!!! And this is just a great scene with atmosphere going on and tension

[@viper0097]

Love the Shotgunns sound.

[@Mpg-gh5fq]

I knew I remembered the shotgun sounding stronger! I'll need to go get a VHS copy. I wish they wouldn't change things when they re-release movies on new media.

[@scottjulie27]

They have done that with so many classics so far.

[@ruffnek2072]

Fuckin love tha faces Michael Beihn pulls, when he's firin that pump action, he's like FUCK YOU HAVE THIS Hahaha

[@mohammedkhan5663]

the whole movie is just awesome the original VHS

[@Mike-t5r9q]

Even better then the blu-ray in my opinion

[@hectorlopez1069]

I rather watch it all the time on the original VHS.

[@masterkief628]

The music change over gave me the chills.

[@drekennedy7602]

this is the version i want vhs version sounds much better awesome upload!!

[@demonofelru3214]

lol I love this movie. This is such a great scene he crushes the bouncers hand like one crumbles a piece of paper. Barely even looks at him and continues on like nothing.

[@qono1458]

The lean at the end by arnie to shoot the customers brilliant

[@TheCelticWayy]

I always wondered if Kyle Reese paid.

[@Ruspapa]

In a novel - yes. In a movie too, i suppose.

[@Bklyn93]

I think he entered through the back door.

[@retrogamingguitarist5961]

Look closely at 0:16.

[@billybassman21]

+Retro Gaming Guitarist Never noticed that, thanks!

[@retrogamingguitarist5961]

You're welcome.

[@nickben2321]

Pity this version was not maintained for the dvd/bluray versions. Can remaster the image, but the sounds maintain. It was perfect. I do not know why the sounds were changed. Bad decision.

[@scottjulie27]

It totally ruined the Terminator legacy. Especially for the new generation.

[@dejansretenovic2496]

great epic scene epic movie,i watch this as a litle kid on vhs

[@SolidMGSnake]

Here, the Uzi actually sounds loud and real compared to the new remix. Should've kept something similar.

[@markfrancis5528]

It was an Uzi just deactivated to fire blanks

[@junglejack9954]

Is the noise of the 12 that's really amazing, sounds like a cannon burst 12's shoot always triggers me

[@junglejack9954]

@@pizzaplanettruck9761 .12 = shotgun shell-cartidge

[@jockw6263]

It's hard to believe we use to watch films like this so use to everything in hd.

[@irakli4263]

1:11 Seems like a Big Smoke's "OOOOH" xD

[@RP-yg7rc]

Puedo ver mil veces y mil más y más y más y es como si la viera por primera vez. Muy pocas películas tienen ese efecto magistral. Muchos consideran mejor la 2 pero esta es inigualable

[@DetroitLove4U]

Six years old in1984. A shot gun never sounded any better before and after this film was released!!

[@classic1971]

The way it was meant to be

[@Eazy920318]

Ohh Lord that VHS sound, gotta love it !

[@LukeLovesRose]

I totally wore out my VHS copies of The Terminator, Aliens and T2

[@RobertK1993]

Put this audio track on a Blu ray release with Dolby Atmos.

[@shanerollins3736]

Here's an idea. Since the people who write the discs can do whatever they want with the sound, make the mono track come out of all of the speakers. Depending on which system you have, you'll have either two, four, five, or seven speakers playing the track. The subwoofer (if you have one) wouldn't be used. Fix the pitch too. And while they're at it, get rid of the blue hue, and restore the original credits. And play with the framerate so it looks more like the tape. The tape looked significantly better (and more realistic) than the DVD or Blu-Ray. I'd buy it.

[@devinthierault]

Shane Rollins that's what dolby pro logic does

[@NeBuLiSt]

How is it possible that this has a beefier shotgun sound than the BluRay!!!!!!

[@JOHNN01.82]

Sounds far better

[@INDORIPPER]

Yes

[@Demonhunter677]

Damn right

[@robjackson5245]

Finally a VHS clip that's uncompressed and not changed in motion. Meaning no slight change in FPS. It's proper American frame persecond.

[@forcedinduction2918]

all of the film has been messed about with to sound worse than vhs version ok the dvd version is clearer but the sounds of the guns is wrong and the motorbike scene at the tiki motel has been dubbed over with anther sound

[@edwmakina]

And the Terminator first person camera sound too :(

[@austinwillcut4919]

forcedinduction 2 actually the 2001 Special Edition DVD has the original '84 mono soundtrack with the original gun sounds and explosions, do you have that disc? I do own it myself and it sounds just like this just better picture quality! Sadly the Blu Ray doesn't have the mono.

[@hankheavy]

What bothered me the most was the gun sounds. I remember the first time I was like dafuq is this?

[@hankheavy]

It's ready. Now eat it ya twatbag

[@Astatolsio]

Definitivamente, el sonido a máquina estaba mucho mejor :D

[@nathanmcdonald610]

Just something about this old formatting. That synth hits so fucking hard at 1:21 it gives me goosebumps.

[@jainee4507]

The sounds the weapons made while firing was perfect why did they have to mess with it?

[@gregorbegger9291]

Come with me if you want the original version

[@Demonhunter677]

I,llcome

[@BlueCollar850]

That shotgun tho

[@theoracledragonlove]

Love it!

[@wilverbal]

I can't imagine why they changed the sound and music at all for the DVD version, and I'm especially baffled about why they changed the sound and music to make them far inferior to what we originally had.

[@hectorlopez1069]

I know, me too, that's ridiculous.

[@AAAwmt]

Does anyone know why only the pitch for burnin in the third degree is 80% higher?

[@sctmcg]

I agree SOME of the original sound effects are better, the shotgun sounds are awesome BUT the work they did to add metallic ricochets when Reese shoots Arnold and the effects they added when he smashes through the window completely improve the movie!

[@The_Husband_of_Jane_Lane]

I have the 1995 print (packed in with T2 in a box-set) on VHS since 2003 and still do today.

[@dutchcinephile1362]

Best gritty vhs version It has a charm lost in digital space

[@ZainR]

Hard to believe this movie is 40 years old.

[@barebarekun161]

Some DVD version actually carried the Mono track which is good but something still missing...the look of the 1984 movie. Call me crazy but I think the DVD version looked too sharp and blu-ray sharpness is just overkill with the terrible blue hue added. And there's something about the framerate of DVD and Blu-Ray it just not as filmic smooth like VHS

[@shusterandy]

I agree, I like the smooth motion movement of vhs, on dvd it looks digital and pixelated. and movement can be blurry. And I like the old nitty gritty look of vhs it helps with the tone.

[@TheGothprincess2]

Too bad they stop making VHS.

[@shanerollins3736]

AMEN TO THAT! So much better than DVD or Blu-Ray.

[@shanerollins3736]

As for the framerate, the DVD and Blu-Ray are correct, but it looks terrible. If you capture the Blu-Ray, (using a capture card,) you can change the soundtrack, delete the blue hue, and mess with the frame count so that it looks more like it should. I have been trying to track down the original VHS for a while now. You find it now and then, but the price is ridiculous. It has great picture, great sound, and guess what? NO EDITS! It has the mono soundtrack (and it comes out of all speakers) it doesn't have that blue hue, and the end is unedited (the credits were changed sometime in the late 80s.) If anybody has a Thorn EMI Terminator they want to part with, I'm in!

[@shanerollins3736]

@@2016memesiguess Nope, James Cameron does it to all of his movies, including both Terminator movies, Titanic, and Aliens. Rumor has it he's doing it to The Abyss and that's why it's taking forever to hit Blu-Ray. Even though it's only mildly irritating in The Terminator, it's a case of fixing something that isn't broken, that's what bothers me.

[@MrDalewin]

Damn, I didn’t know VHS players were even working anymore these days. I’m not that old, but I am obsessed with things from the past like this.

[@adewilson132]

“Things from the past like this” damn you must be young as hell.

[@ExtremelyTastyBread]

vaporwave AF, thanks for the upload

[@chrisanderson7984]

I remember my uncle taking me to see this.

[@nicholastaylor2217]

Love that shotgun

[@mresturk9336]

Funny thing is the changed gun sound effects don't even bother me as much as some of the other sound effects/music effects are either diminished or missing entirely from the DVD edit.

[@404originalitynotfound2]

Wow, this sounds a lot better than the bluray

[@Demonhunter677]

Youre right

[@stargazer4683]

VHS

[@one8hundred1]

at 2:25 when T-800 starts walking toward downed Sarah / reloading his uzi. His mission could be succeeded if he dropped the uzi and Bullcharged Sarah like linebacker and doing god knows what to her head and neck. Remember the first Punk T-800 kills at night, basically rams his fist into his chest. Instead the plot called for "Must-reload-uzi-and-waste-time". Watch the scene and count how many seconds are wasted, given the true T-800 physical capability within the movie.

[@nicholastaylor2217]

Bit risky shooting the terminator in the wrist with a shotgun reese could have taken sarahs head off

[@LITTLE1994]

Yes, in COMPLETELY original 1984 style!

[@robjackson5245]

0:11 considering the monster the Terminator was, that guy's lucky that his hands being crushed is all that happened.

[@hectorlopez1069]

80s movies are the greatest because of the technology and the special affects.

[@fylecabagnot5703]

Reese was the first to put the AIR into the Nike brand high tops .. That leap 😮

[@DGdescendant22]

The uzi sound 👌

[@slyguythreeonetwonine3172]

Just fyi, the tracking on this vcr was set wrong. Hence the tracking near the bottom. Something wasn't 100% because the speed and pitch is wrong, just a bit wrong, but wrong enough for me to notice.

[@finngerme4533]

u know where i can download the full movie in vhs for watch in my old crt

[@plushbatfan]

The federal minimum wage back in 1984 was $3.35/hr. Presently $7.25/hr.

[@alessiocataldi2434]

Tahnee Cain should remake a new modern version of this song (imo)

[@1983jblack]

My only problem with the mono track is the music was always too damn loud it drowns out some of the SFX

[@rossothecrimson7]

Perturbator made this scene 1000x cooler.

[@junglejack9954]

Saint !

[@RJ_MacReady]

New 4K blu ray had the mono soundtrack!

[@fylecabagnot5703]

Kyle just wanted to make sure how to activate T800s sleep mode..2:35 Sleep mode off 2:46 (yawn deleted)

[@kailee87]

PERFECTION

[@orlandoprude9021]

This film right here superb Michael biehn shooting Arnold through that damn glass unstoppable love it I keep rewinding it it's do raw I love this film right here this that shit it's a go I'm telling ya

[@aug-pahunters51]

Why did the T800 take cover? That was a mistake in the movie. It makes no sense. Awesome upload. This and Aliens are classics.

[@Mike-t5r9q]

This movie is so much better on VHS it looks so much more intimidating and more brutal

[@NSGhostbusters]

Which VHS release was this? The speed and pitch seems off, my VHS is the 1991 Hemdale release.

[@NSGhostbusters]

@Bryan Mack I don't really see purple and yellow on mine, but at the very top it has Schwarzenegger in big bold white letters with black spots going through them.

[@bozotheclown169]

2:34 note the electricity on the terminators arm from the shotgun blast

[@rocket_2727]

Brad Fiedel is a genius.

[@Demonhunter677]

Uzi sound changed aswell

[@WCTate]

If only I could these sounds on iTunes

[@Kingofwei22.]

Sourced from Live Entertainment VHS?

[@lawman722]

the sound difference is noticeable and for the better especially at @:17 when it more realistic sounding glass breaking etc...what they did to the remastered is not the same sounds in a lot of scenes... Ill take the original

[@INDORIPPER]

Cinéma version perfect

[@Legitcar117]

Why is it so high pitched

[@somedeerboi]

I think that this is the 1985 VHS release which had the entire soundtrack played at the wrong pitch.

[@shanerollins3736]

What's worse wrong pitch or remix? I'll just screw with the settings on my equipment to make it sound right. Undoing a remix is like pulling teeth.

[@kylereese5869]

If you want the mono track with the correct pitch look for the 1991 Hemdale VHS or 2001 Special Edition DVD

[@leobaker-tf2andmusic520]

@@shanerollins3736 i honestly think the higher pitch makes it sound more intense

[@str8toff]

That slowed part

[@СергейГлазунов-г6ж]

you have a whole movie from vhs the terminator 1 is rewritten on the computer?

[@briancorley1991]

When i've been watching it on dvd and on normal tv. I can't understand why thay.ve changed the sounds. When i watched it on video tape the sounds were very good. i just don't see the point in changing the sounds. The gun sounds. The bin wagon sounds. And all the other sounds. Its just pointless.

[@shanerollins3736]

They've upgraded a 1.0 Mono track to 2.0 Stereo, 4.0 Stereo Surround, or 5.1 Digital Surround, depending on which copy you have. Also, the track was converted from analog to digital, which results in a loss of quality. There was a PCM track (analog) encoded onto the Blu-Ray (digital) from 2015. (This is according to the package; this track is nowhere to be found on the disc.) As you can guess, the end result wasn't pretty. The only copies with the mono track are the VHS tapes, the original Betamax tape, and the original HBO laserdisc.

[@crissrudd4554]

Most DVD editions have the Mono. My Special Edition DVD has both the mono and remix. The Laserdiscs have it too.

[@RobertK1993]

Shane Rollins Blu ray sound is superior to VHS a failed format should have died in the 80s Betamax is the true king of home tape recorders.

[@M0butu]

@@RobertK1993 I could write a book about failed formats that were superior to their more successful counterparts. But I won't. 😎

[@JohnSmith-qn3ob]

I don't get it. What's "proper" about this version, and what's so "rubbish" about the DVD version? Are you talking about the new audio track? I have the DVD and you do know it has the original audio track. You just have to choose it in the menu.

[@forcedinduction2918]

the gun sounds have been messed with and sound shit

[@JohnSmith-qn3ob]

As I said in my first post: The DVD has the original mono audio, you just have to choose it in the menu. Would you like me to make a video to show you how?

[@forcedinduction2918]

no life is too short lol

[@demonofelru3214]

The blu-ray does not include the mono track. Only the DVD.

[@M0butu]

@@demonofelru3214 only a very Special Region 2 DVD If I recall correctly.

[@fingolfirn8189]

VHS... Nice. 👍

[@fylecabagnot5703]

2:33

[@shaunyb2011]

ah yes the brutal version!😀

[@INDORIPPER]

XD

[@aleksandarcvetkovic6492]

please song name

[@Bklyn93]

Burning in the Third Degree by Tryanglz. It's on youtube.

[@scottjulie27]

The home video companies really fucked up “The Terminator” legacy - and ruined it for the new generation and the ignorant first time reactors on KZbin - by massively altering the sound effects of the original film so much that it is now a totally different movie in a bad way. Why couldn’t they just leave it alone? It was fine as it was.