The Terrifying BRUTALITY of ZOMBIE HITSUGAYA | Bleach Discussion

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Toshiro Hitsugaya is clearly very strong, but whether it's down to inexperience, or him pulling his punches, I don't feel like we often get to see that. But when unshackled by Giselle Gewelle and transformed into a mindless, remorseless version of himself, we get to see the true power and brutality of a captain of the Gotei 13!
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@MrTommo2304
@MrTommo2304 2 жыл бұрын
Now this version of Hitsugaya was very entertaining to see - ruthless, cold, and unflinching! What did you think of Hitsugaya's time as a zombie? Did he showcase his real fighting ability? Let me know!
@CaptainKotetsu
@CaptainKotetsu 2 жыл бұрын
I’ll admit toshiro is impressive for someone so young, but by the same respect he shouldn’t be a captain yet. He’s not ready yet From an age and experience perspective.
@TheFallen_29
@TheFallen_29 2 жыл бұрын
@@CaptainKotetsu experience wise ofc. But the whole thing about his character is his power and spirit energy is so substantial plus he’s a prodigy. It’s been hinted at that once he’s done growing he’ll surpass the likes of someone as powerful as shunsui and could even potentially get up to Yamamoto levels 🤷🏽‍♂️ Also you gotta factor in that while young and inexperienced compared to other captains he’s still a whole level above and more skilled then other captain potential shinigami like ikkaku and renji(until tybw) renji gets such a huge boost then(pretty postive adult hitsugaya is still above royal guard training renji tho)
@CaptainKotetsu
@CaptainKotetsu 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheFallen_29 I know. But all that doesn’t change the fact that he’s still just a kid. I mean, I shouldn’t be surprised that a literal child can be a captain when they’ll give the same job to war criminals and mad scientists who torture people. Literally anyone can be a captain if their latent abilities and spirit energy are good enough. Seems to be the only real qualifier half the time.
@Crunchysopa52
@Crunchysopa52 2 жыл бұрын
@@CaptainKotetsu how is he not ready if he was as strong as he was + a prodigy boy wonder? Lol
@MichaelisBLee-nw8wy
@MichaelisBLee-nw8wy 2 жыл бұрын
@@CaptainKotetsu I mean Hitsugaya was able to defeat two Espada in the Fake Karakura Town arc and he was more the only one to pick up on the clues Aizen and Gin were laying down. Sure it was part of Aizen's plan, but it was up to him to figure it out, thus showing his perception and deductive reasoning to see things through. Sounds captain worthy to me.
@sternritternovad
@sternritternovad 2 жыл бұрын
The one thing about Zombie Hitsugaya that I always found amusing was how good he looked in the Sternritter outfit, because that meant after Giselle Gewelle turned him into a Zombie she went and got him a full outfit then after making sure it was a good fit then and only then went into battle.
@3slicessenpai
@3slicessenpai 2 жыл бұрын
It's the same kind of going needlessly far for your enemies as Doflaming preparing a flashy PowerPoint presentation for the bounties in the Dressrosa arc of One Piece.
@foster2095
@foster2095 2 жыл бұрын
such a Queen ✨ 🌈
@proudfatherofadeadweightso5715
@proudfatherofadeadweightso5715 2 жыл бұрын
@@foster2095 king ..... It's a he
@suzukikarin4599
@suzukikarin4599 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like Hitsugaya got a Yandere stalker
@dinolover
@dinolover 2 жыл бұрын
Gotta kill your comrades with drip right?
@3slicessenpai
@3slicessenpai 2 жыл бұрын
Zombie Hitsugaya vs Shiny Mayuri had too much drip going on, so Kubo had to cut it short before Gucci contacted him to do a spin-off manga, like they did with Araki.
@dan240393
@dan240393 Жыл бұрын
Bleach maintains a dangerous density of drip for its whole run. In both the stylish and visceral senses.
@Wind0demon0anime
@Wind0demon0anime Жыл бұрын
Wtf u smoking bro
@andyreyes1111
@andyreyes1111 Жыл бұрын
Whatever it is, I want some
@Desiludildo
@Desiludildo Жыл бұрын
@@andyreyes1111 spice
@Cho0segoose
@Cho0segoose Жыл бұрын
@@Wind0demon0anime Araki, the writer of Jojo, did a collab with Gucci. He's saying the outfits in Bleach are so dope that Gucci might do a collab with Kubo too
@garywillig5143
@garywillig5143 2 жыл бұрын
Hitsugaya holding back is canon. In his first fight he tells a Lieutenant to move 5 miles away so as not to accidentally kill him. In his fight with Hallibel he refuses to go all out until he's been wounded and weakened enough that he doesn't have to worry about accidentally getting his allies caught in the crossfire. The other thing is, his zanpakuto is better for large-scale battles than it is for one on ones. His moves tend to be devastating area of effect moves that can decimate armies rather than moves that are meant to finish off one powerful opponent. Even so, I think we do get to see just how powerful he is throughout the series. In his first real fight Kira, a Lieutenant, is in complete awe of his power and ends up being KO'd by complete accident from Hitsugaya's shikai. Hitsugaya is also fast enough to dodge Gin's shikai at point-blank range despite being completely blindsighted. In movies 2 and 3 Hitsugaya briefly fights Ichigo and kicks Ichigo's ass both times. Ikkaku has no problem whatsoever taking orders from Hitsugaya, which alone shows his strength, because if Ikkaku thought of him as just a kid or didn't respect his power he'd never work under him. He knocks Luppi completely out of his resurrection form. He is able to fight evenly with the third-strongest Espada, defeat her when he goas all out, and impresses the strongest Espada. And Aizen never beats him without resorting to his zanpakuto's absolute hypnosis ability, something he doesn't bother with for Ichigo or Komumura. Despite being Worfed in the sense that he is used as a punching bag to show how powerful the villains are, he never loses a fight except against Aizen and usually still wins those fights in the end.
@turatimauro98
@turatimauro98 Жыл бұрын
I agree, but regarding gin i think he is just pretending to fight, he doesn't want to blow up his cover and certainly doesn't want to kill someone close to Rangiku. He fought cause he had to, but wasn't there to kill.
@Kaden786
@Kaden786 Жыл бұрын
@@turatimauro98 I was saying that too. People think Gin was fr trying against Hitsugaya. Hitsugaya is a baby compared to Gin like literally. Rangiku was grown when she met Hitsugaya. Gin is around her age possibly older meaning he was already in the Gotei 13 or finishing the Academy.
@GodMajik
@GodMajik Жыл бұрын
Hakka no Togame bro.
@axcel2656
@axcel2656 Жыл бұрын
@@Kaden786 still he is stronger then him LOL
@Kaden786
@Kaden786 Жыл бұрын
@@axcel2656 He isn't lol. Maybe TYBW arc Toshiro. But before TYBW arc Toshiro was not stronger than Gin. You're wanking.
@kyaputenkonkyubain9094
@kyaputenkonkyubain9094 2 жыл бұрын
I do think that Hitsugaya is the antithesis of Yamamoto. Think about it Hitsugaya uses ice, Yama uses fire. Hyorinmaru is a dragon while Ryujin Jakka is symbolized as a Phoenix. Hitsugaya is young and inexperienced while Yamamoto is old and wise
@regen01
@regen01 2 жыл бұрын
W comparison
@Rhekon
@Rhekon 2 жыл бұрын
Hitsugaya uses ice clone. Yamamoto gets cleaved in two. 😈
@johngona5929
@johngona5929 2 жыл бұрын
@@Rhekon Hitsugaya always uses bankai and needs to prolong its use. Yamamoto uses bankai once and needs to end it immediately.
@Rhekon
@Rhekon 2 жыл бұрын
@@johngona5929 and yamamoto's techniques worked when he used them lol 😈
@alexhunt3901
@alexhunt3901 2 жыл бұрын
yamamoto being really cold blooded aswell while hitsugaya being very open and not bloodthirsty
@jocoolshow
@jocoolshow 2 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised people didn't know holding back was in Toshiro's nature. In his biggest fight pre timeskip, Toshiro literally stated that he held back agaisnt Halibel due to fear of affecting the world around him, and the moment he stopped holding back he literally one tapped her and made Starrk ask Kyoraku if his Bankai was as strong as Toshiro's while also saying he wants to fight power on that level etc Even agaisnt Gin, he held back as he didn't use Bankai or wild out. The only time he didn't hold back and keep his cool was agaisnt Aizen
@Mr.PanamaHimself
@Mr.PanamaHimself 2 жыл бұрын
@@maciekwucow3989 I’d hold back from then on if that happened to me to
@ophhate
@ophhate 2 жыл бұрын
​@@Mr.PanamaHimself but we aren't talking grandmas here....shit he didnt become captain for no reason. he literally held back in every fight he had and when he lost his bankai, bazz b literally destroyed him and his lieutenant
@dan240393
@dan240393 Жыл бұрын
Basically all of his fights follow that arc. He half-arses it, violently ejects all of his blood, stops pissing about and immediately trashes his opponent.
@lelnel6242
@lelnel6242 Жыл бұрын
He hated Gin, but he was still Matsumoto's friend and the moment she appeared the fight was over. In the human world, he first had a restrainer put on him, and the second fight he didn't even seem hurt despite Luppi thinking the hit was enough to kill him and then it took Toshiro one attack to win and almost kill Luppi(in his next appearance he had a bunch of bandages and Aizen said that he got seriously wounded). Against Harribel they had zero animosity towards each other, for whatever reason the anime elongated the fight, in the manga neither of them straggled and they pretty much just bought time until they were able to do their finishing moves, but by that point Toshiro respected Harribel to the point of apologising for not letting her avenge her comrades. He blitzed Yukio but didn't kill him because he needed Yukio to remove the rooms(he had zero interest in Yukio's backstory). Aizen was the only one he actually fully hated. I mean, first his 'sister', the only person except his grandmother that wasn't afraid of him, leaves him alone so that she can join Aizen's division, then Aizen wiggles himself into Toshiro's life/friend circle (Toshiro spent his birthday with Momo, Rangiku and Aizen), makes him suspicious of Gin, fakes his death and lets Momo believe Toshiro killed him(all the while his ex-captain's son is making a ruckus, that the entirety of 10th division completely ignores), stabs Momo, almost kills Toshiro. And to top it all of it turns Aizen brainwashed/groomed Momo so hard that even after the betrayal she still didn't believe Aizen would do such a thing. Considering who his ex-captain is, it's no wonder Toshiro has the same kind but fed-up personality as Ichigo and Karin.
@conic2721
@conic2721 7 ай бұрын
@@lelnel6242 also because anyone would beat the shit out of Yukio if given the chance.
@saitosan876
@saitosan876 2 жыл бұрын
Hitsugaya: I will use different strategies with ice to win. Zombie Hitsugaya: I’ll go for the kill, we’re at war after all. Adult Hitsugaya: Watch closely! This might be first and last time I do this!
@CaptainKotetsu
@CaptainKotetsu 2 жыл бұрын
“Where’s Isane?….That’s not important.” You literally just described her role in the series as a whole🤣
@animeato7865
@animeato7865 2 жыл бұрын
Feels bad for ms kotetsu🤣
@Abdega
@Abdega 2 жыл бұрын
It hurts…
@CaptainKotetsu
@CaptainKotetsu 2 жыл бұрын
@@animeato7865 the fact that this comment has more likes than under this video gives me hope.
@animeato7865
@animeato7865 2 жыл бұрын
@@CaptainKotetsu ur captain kotetsu The legend Idk what u expected Ur revered around the mrtommo community Manz gave u a shoutout Much love
@CaptainKotetsu
@CaptainKotetsu 2 жыл бұрын
@@animeato7865 Oh I remember. That shoutout in the poll video was awesome.
@Bossu
@Bossu 2 жыл бұрын
Hitsugaya: "Aizen, i'm going to kill you!" *Aizen reads Hitsugaya fights* Aizen: "Idk man, doesn't look like it."
@reallyhimongod
@reallyhimongod 2 жыл бұрын
Lmaooo right loses damn near every fight he was ever in😂
@jocoolshow
@jocoolshow 2 жыл бұрын
@@reallyhimongod He only lost to Aizen and Bazz B. Aizen folded everyone and Bazz B was his elemental direct counter + his Bankai was sealed He still had enough strength to one shot Cang Du during the Bazz B fight too What manga were you reading 💀
@reallyhimongod
@reallyhimongod 2 жыл бұрын
@@jocoolshow the Bleach manga trust me Hitsugaya is a major jobber in all of his main fights he pretty much lost or either retreated and he tied with Halibel he never even beat her and Gin was saucin his ass up in their lil squabble sooo what manga are you reading then chump? Ouuhh he can take on a bunch of low level fodder congrats talk to me when he’s defeated boss level characters..
@AngelNearDestruction
@AngelNearDestruction 2 жыл бұрын
@@reallyhimongod I mean let's be real for a second here. Hitsugaya would have lost to Gin in a serious fight, but that was never in the interest to the IC or OOC plot. Then we see him fight an arrancar but is being restricted. Then we see him fight an espada, albeit arguably a fake espada... anyway he incapacitates but fails to kill. But espada are supposed to be captain+ already at that point in the series. When harribel and hitsugaya fight, hitsugaya has allies and is fighting a very high tier opponent. No one seems to give credit, vasto lorde are supposed to be at or above captain at the beginning of the arrancar arc and adjucha arrancar are stronger than vasto lordes which would imply a vasto lordes arrancar is leagues above the others, which is made very clear by the release state rule and the fact than release state grimmjow is stronger than hollified ichigo until he gets his friend boost, and at that point bankai ichigo was relative to serious bankai byakuya immediately before the arrancar arc, and hollified ichigo is definitely way stronger than that. The same ichigo that fought grimmjow couldn't fight base Ulquiorra without a sword, and it is confirmed that base to base harribel is stronger than ulquiorra in raw power. How is ANY captain supposed to have a fair chance against an arrancar that scales ABOVE unarmed ulquiorra who manhandled vizard ichigo at a point where he is base to base relative to high tier captains. Harribel got fucked by Aizen but she actually is a big deal. The amount of actual asspull you need to justify hitsugaya winning at all against harribel is actually ridiculous, and in reality actually was. Think about it, Ulquiorra got beat by vasto lordes ichigo, harribel got betrayed by aizen end of the battle, stark got cucked by actual reality warping with an underhanded enemy, and barragan got negged by his own ability being too OP. There is an argument that noitorra was a vasto lordes, and if you count him he got killed by THE kenpachi zaraki. Neliel is a vasto lordes, however to be defeated she was attacked by noitorra, who is likely a vasto lordes, off guard while being debuffed by technology made by a former vasto lordes that regressed to adjucha to evolve into a more perfect being... yeah zeloppero was kinda... yeah... anyway every known vasto lordes has been beaten by asspull not actual combat. So yeah. Hitsugaya not winning makes sense.
@machinaowl910
@machinaowl910 2 жыл бұрын
@@jocoolshow He doesn't lose every fight like this guy is saying, but I don't really remember him winning all that much either. The anime doesn't make him look that good which is probably why he's saying this lol
@kingdavidbeast_8220
@kingdavidbeast_8220 2 жыл бұрын
Zombie Hitsugaya is gonna be trending like crazy when the anime comes out❄️
@SemekiIzuio
@SemekiIzuio 2 жыл бұрын
Lol if he wasnt already
@Mars-td7pb
@Mars-td7pb 2 жыл бұрын
What about adult Hitsugaya?
@shortbreadgirlscout3463
@shortbreadgirlscout3463 2 жыл бұрын
Look I better get some more fanfiction for my ship. Karin/Toshiro.
@convo_Art_HQ8961
@convo_Art_HQ8961 2 жыл бұрын
oh of course and Im all for it
@xnortheast1106
@xnortheast1106 2 жыл бұрын
@@shortbreadgirlscout3463 no
@LowKeyJaded
@LowKeyJaded 2 жыл бұрын
Dark skin hitsugia just looks bad ass regardless. Especially since he gets the Quincy like suit out of nowhere.
@reallyhimongod
@reallyhimongod 2 жыл бұрын
Said the same thing they all look cooler with darker skin tbh
@A_Black_Sheep94
@A_Black_Sheep94 2 жыл бұрын
Ah yes the decaying look is always popular 😅
@siricat3231
@siricat3231 2 жыл бұрын
He 100% pulls his punches because he is aware of how strong he could be and he holds himself back esp when other people are around because he is afraid/wary of losing control and innocents being hurt by his power. I think this definitely stems from his experience as a child when he almost kills grandma accidentally in his sleep. I think since then he makes sure he is very cautious. Examples of this is him telling Izuru to run when he fights against Gin and later in his fight with Harribel as well. That's what makes him becoming a zombie so terrifying, and explains the fear in the people he faces, because everyone is aware of his potential and power and now he's been stripped of his morality. I'd be terrified too, it was really cool to see, sad in a way too when you think who Hitsugaya is as a person before. I was on the edge of my seat hoping something to happen to help him out and it does, though in an equally brutal way.
@ericb8241
@ericb8241 2 жыл бұрын
Yeeeeee, sure lol. Him losing most of the time isn’t ‘being wary’
@A_Black_Sheep94
@A_Black_Sheep94 2 жыл бұрын
Not to mention him serving under Isshin
@JohnGlow2
@JohnGlow2 Жыл бұрын
@@ericb8241 He has lost a grand total of two fights vs Aizen and Bazz( technically 3 if you count the FKT arc vs Aizen, but everyone holds that L, 4 if you count zombiefied against Mayuri )not sure how that equates to ‘most’ of his fights, when in reality, theyre unfinished. Vs Gin the fight was interrupted, Vs Aizen he lost, He wins vs Shawlong, He defeats Luppi, He Incapacitates Halibel (until the timely arrival of Wonderweiss), he and the rest of the Gotei lose to Aizen, he beats Yukio, loses to Bazz B, and then defeats Cang Du, as a Zombie takes out an Arrancar and two Lieutenant level Soul reapers, loses to Mayuri and the 3v 1 fight against Gerard is left inconclusive until Gerard dies to plot/ Aushwalen. The only thing he’s guilty of is not killing his enemies, but three of the above listed were saved SPECIFICALLY to be used for the plot later down the line, so they needed to be kept alive somehow. Make it math.
@miiamidblu
@miiamidblu Жыл бұрын
@@JohnGlow2 Omg, thank you! I swear ppl like to pretend Toshiro is always losing fights but he's won most of the fights he's been in. If it's just because he doesn't usually kill his opponent I guess that means Ichigo barely won any of his battles in the series either...
@edwinalvarez8754
@edwinalvarez8754 Жыл бұрын
Bro it's not about pulling punches. It's about hitsugaya fighting with honor. He's not a kenpachi
@jaredmn8580
@jaredmn8580 2 жыл бұрын
I liked how he was absolutely destroying Ikkaku, Yumichika and the zombie Arrancars, it showed how strong a captain of the Gotei 13 can be.
@jocoolshow
@jocoolshow 2 жыл бұрын
Keep in mind one of those Zombie Arrancar just 2 shotted Vollstandig Bambietta (who had nerfed mental capabilities, not strength/power)
@sacrap8011
@sacrap8011 2 жыл бұрын
@@jocoolshow didn't the guy say something about toshiro being that strong since his cells were fresher
@djwoosie98
@djwoosie98 2 жыл бұрын
@@jocoolshow most likely power too
@Jonas-jx3kw
@Jonas-jx3kw 2 жыл бұрын
@@jocoolshow she was nerfed by power too its obvious
@johnischill5964
@johnischill5964 6 ай бұрын
​@sacrap8011 I think it's when Giselle turns someone into a Zombie, the cells are fresher, and they're more powerful if they didn't actually die before the transformation. She can turn someone who's already dead, or someone who is alive and comes into contact with her blood.
@desroth
@desroth 2 жыл бұрын
His killing intent was always there, it just took no longer needing to care about killing everyone around him to really showcase his power as a kid.
@thanatoskw8285
@thanatoskw8285 2 жыл бұрын
My take on the whole zombified while alive thing is that since he was alive, his brain hadn’t decomposed at all and he still had access to all of his higher-order reasoning abilities. So it’s not that it was easier to control him, it’s that he was able to be told a general goal and exercise strategy to reach it, as opposed to being more of a mindless weapon who would need to be instructed step-by-step. To use a Naruto analogy, it makes him an edo tensei summon instead of… I dunno, someone under shadow possession? Something to that effect.
@corruptangel6793
@corruptangel6793 2 жыл бұрын
I like that idea
@GodMajik
@GodMajik Жыл бұрын
He’s not dead so he wasn’t a true zombie anyway
@jacobsunday6561
@jacobsunday6561 2 жыл бұрын
Looking back on that Giselle fight, Yumichika really was the perfect counter for her and Zombie Tosh. Would have been nice to see character development for him and Ikkaku’s friendship after releasing his true zanpakuto.
@zalangyuricza8149
@zalangyuricza8149 2 жыл бұрын
Giselle is actually a he
@Direwolf181
@Direwolf181 2 жыл бұрын
@@zalangyuricza8149or they could be trans I meab we di already have crazy powerful dragqueens in Bleach (Charlotte Culthorne anyone)
@zalangyuricza8149
@zalangyuricza8149 2 жыл бұрын
@@Direwolf181 Yeah he is trans
@machinaowl910
@machinaowl910 2 жыл бұрын
@@Direwolf181 A drag queen and a trans person is not the same at all dude lol. Don't call a trans person someone dressed in drag
@purevenus6359
@purevenus6359 2 жыл бұрын
Giselle is either a trans character or a “surprise” character like Sylvia in Konusuba. Interesting enough, Giselle gets visibly annoyed when it’s discovered openly she has male attributes. But, she actually enjoys making bambietta basterbine beg behind closed doors. This indicates to me she has at the very least a little dysphoria.
@D-Skotes
@D-Skotes 2 жыл бұрын
One of my favourite things in Bleach was just how much fucking drip each and every character had at all times
@sonicwild665
@sonicwild665 2 жыл бұрын
I’m surprised Tommo forgot that Hyorinmaru is called the strongest ice zanpakto while ryujin Hakka is the strongest fire zanpakto. Kubo definitely used that massive ice attacks in base form to resemble ryujin jakka to show what it is like to have the strongest type of zanpakto, and with Yama even stating earlier that a bankai being refined over time can be a whole new ball game. With Toshiro being so young AND having bankai already, it really makes sense why he was made captain and why shunsui told stark in only about 100 years he would be stronger than him already.
@A_Black_Sheep94
@A_Black_Sheep94 2 жыл бұрын
Water and Ice
@fadumomohamed2342
@fadumomohamed2342 Жыл бұрын
@@A_Black_Sheep94 yeah i feel like people forget that he is controlling water too, and weather manipulation.
@cerbitocarljasonp.971
@cerbitocarljasonp.971 Жыл бұрын
@@A_Black_Sheep94 it was a type of ice zanpaktu but the ability was able to control water and ice. He was saying was Hyourinmaru was the Strongest Ice Type Zanpaktu.
@cerbitocarljasonp.971
@cerbitocarljasonp.971 Жыл бұрын
@@A_Black_Sheep94 Don't confuse yourself against Types and Abilities.
@tincan6747
@tincan6747 2 жыл бұрын
To me it really seems like this version of Toshiro is very reminiscent of the old school gotei 13 from the times when Yamamoto was younger and Unohana was still the functioning kenpachi. Like, the times of the first iteration of the gotei 13. This is how i imagine them being, as in, remorseless, effective and relentless, giving no pause or quarter. Maybe that's why they were more feared and perceived as more dangerous overall compared to later iterations and generations who got bogged down in etiquette and ceremony or simple fears of affecting their surroundings. This to me is why the forst gotei13 has that aura of fear and respect surrounding it much more than later iterations while not necessarily being more powerful apart from the two monsters we already know of like unohana and yamamoto. Their demeanor and behaviour as well as maybe priorities were just vastly different then, and again also the etiquette and ceremony.
@cerbitocarljasonp.971
@cerbitocarljasonp.971 Жыл бұрын
it is because Yamamoto has changed. Yamamoto became righteous leader and wants to protect it surroundings that's why other captains looks up on him and want to be like him.
@Heavenly_Senshi
@Heavenly_Senshi 2 жыл бұрын
Toshiro is my favorite captain watching him seem so weak throughout the series kinda sucked know how strong he can be because he has so much potential as said by many characters. But this this is what I’m talking about I hope he gets a spotlight in the new arc
@DauthEldrvaria
@DauthEldrvaria 2 жыл бұрын
It’s crazy that we have to call Hitsugya inexperienced but yea compared to other captains he is so inexperienced. He needs to get that killing instinct and really destroy somebody!
@djwoosie98
@djwoosie98 2 жыл бұрын
He is not inexperienced, he performed better than most captains in tybw arc.
@TheFallen_29
@TheFallen_29 2 жыл бұрын
@@djwoosie98 this and also ppl saying he doesn’t take things seriously seems false as he’s always overtly serious 😂Also I would say he’s extremely professional as a soul reaper thru out the series and definitely Carries that caltian mantle with him. Issue is he just has low showings as well do to his inexperience earlier on in the series compared to the other captains, as well as how he always got emotional with aizen cuz of momo and would rush in and then proceed yo get One shot(which happened twice between him and aizen 💀) to be fair that’s aizen tho and aizen one shot hella niggas 😭 and if it wasn’t a one shot aizen would make sure to get it done in two 🤧🤧💯
@djwoosie98
@djwoosie98 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheFallen_29 for the most part yes, he did well but has the excuse his power is immature. He managed to seal Hallibel to the put she could not break out and beat cang du near death. Even starrk saw his bankai as more powerful than Sui Feng. His feats in tybw put him another class though
@lelnel6242
@lelnel6242 Жыл бұрын
@@djwoosie98 Yeah, but consider this, Momo, Renji and Kira were in the same class. Momo was in her last year in schooling when she decided to try extra hard to be part of Aizen's division and stops coming home because of that. That's when Rangiku finds Toshiro and he finds out he has powers. And then he graduates in one year. Mind you, Rukia and Renji entered the same day, so she was already adopted by the time Toshiro enrolled and took the noble way out and graduated early. Compare that to Soi-Fon/Feng(second youngest captain), who was raised to be part of the millitia. Plus nobles were raised to become Shinigami's and they don't have to go to the academy
@djwoosie98
@djwoosie98 Жыл бұрын
@@lelnel6242 where are you getting Sui Feng as second youngest captain? Next, why are you mentioning her being adopted?
@maximilianosanchez1106
@maximilianosanchez1106 2 жыл бұрын
I like that Giselle gave him a Quincy/Sternritter uniform just to Hitsugaya and no one else just because he had to look cool. Was that Gigi's uniform before they got a female uniform for themselves?
@manuelacosta9463
@manuelacosta9463 2 жыл бұрын
Hitsugaya's killing intent with Showlong was because he and his fellow Arrancar where there to attack Karakura, if the Shinigami didn't get lethal there would've been a full on massacre of the townspeople before Aizen's invasion. The Zombie incident sure showed the general brutality of the war and how Yhwach's drive for his goal goes beyond everything.
@TheFallen_29
@TheFallen_29 2 жыл бұрын
I was about to say wouldn’t this be similar with the second arrancar attack but then I just remembered that wouldn’t have been as on the ropes with civilians I guess cuz they were in a forest setting as opposed to being smack dab in the middle of town? 🤷🏽‍♂️
@manuelacosta9463
@manuelacosta9463 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheFallen_29 Yeah Gotei 13 was going to get deadly regardless but more so when the town was at stake. Between Yammy's park massacre and Aizen's rampage in the real Karakura town things were ugly. In general however, war without mercy is the norm among Spirits even if human lives aren't in danger. And if prisoners are miraculously taken it's to be expiremented on/killed.
@truenightmare6665
@truenightmare6665 2 жыл бұрын
Hitsuguya became so powerful since he got the N-Word pass.
@animeato7865
@animeato7865 2 жыл бұрын
Omg...😨
@anthonyg5001
@anthonyg5001 2 жыл бұрын
Jushiro got it too when he unleashed the mimihage lmao
@calebj8134
@calebj8134 2 жыл бұрын
Shut the hell up. These racist jokes arent funny
@mikeysullivan408
@mikeysullivan408 2 жыл бұрын
I always love to compare the contrast of Yama and toshiro.Young-old Ice-fire ect. I’ve also always loved Yama screen time and dialogue while disliking toshiro’s. Maybe I expected more from the youngest captain prodigy because to me he always seems to lose. But after watching this video I see it differently. The toshiro I always looked at as overhyped and not all worthy of praise of being a prodigy and things, was just my ignorance. This video did a really good job at highlighting how much toshiro would hold back and pull punches. Which makes perfect sense to me. Zombie toshiro holding nothing back has panels that look like Yamamoto’s but with ice. And this also puts me even more in awe of Yamamoto. Because ywach said something similar to Yama getting weaker overtime because he now had a sense of moral and justice. Does that mean that Yamamoto we know has actually been pulling punches to the same degree toshiro was? Just how strong and brutal was a prime Yamamoto?
@Bakuru
@Bakuru 2 жыл бұрын
He did say that no one had ever been stronger than him in over 1000 years which is why he was the Captain Commander for so long. After I seen his full abilities, I believe him 🤣🤣 and Toshiro has always been one of my favorites because I had seen his potential all along, and this last arc, with his zombie and adult growth fights, really shows it alot which I loved 💯
@edmondli4933
@edmondli4933 2 жыл бұрын
Also Toshiro never actually fought weaker enemies compare to him. All captain class or above. The only he do not is when is a zombie.
@The.Brother.in.Christ
@The.Brother.in.Christ 2 жыл бұрын
By that logic yama sucks cus he lost about 2/4 of his fights
@mikeysullivan408
@mikeysullivan408 2 жыл бұрын
@@The.Brother.in.Christ I disagree. Yama is over 2000 years old and is 1 of 2 members of the gotei that fought in the first war. Toshiro has been a captain for less than 20 years. The same logic does not apply lol
@bao1964
@bao1964 Жыл бұрын
A really cool thing to notice is while Yama, possessing a fire Zanpakuto, is strict, cruel even cold-blooded, Toshiro, with an ice Zanpakuto, is warm, open, somewhat emotional
@adamgtrap
@adamgtrap 2 жыл бұрын
I think it was mentioned early in bleach that Hyorinmaru was the most powerful ice zanpakuto. So I think it's great that we finally got to see the ice counterpart of Ryujin Jakka in this arc. And it's wielder.
@MrTommo2304
@MrTommo2304 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely!
@A_Black_Sheep94
@A_Black_Sheep94 2 жыл бұрын
Hyorinmaru isn't just ice it's water.
@10_Bit
@10_Bit Жыл бұрын
I love the polar oppositions in the name and design compared to ryujin jakka Hyorinmaru has no dragon in the name but has a dragon design in shikai While ryujin jakka has Ryujin, which means dragon king or god, has no dragon design just pure fire and flames.
@jackolantern1829
@jackolantern1829 Жыл бұрын
@@10_Bit Ryu in the Zanpakuto name is not Dragon, 流 mean flow dragon is 竜
@GodMajik
@GodMajik Жыл бұрын
Wrong. Hakka no Togame is the strongest ice based Bankai
@aliveandwellinisrael2507
@aliveandwellinisrael2507 2 жыл бұрын
There were two(?) times where Hitsugaya definitely didn't pull his punches, against Momo- I mean, Aizen. Poor Momo. Also, it makes sense that Hitsugaya's Wandenreich uniform looked awesome, since their alternate Soul Society is covered in ice and such when it takes the place of the original one, out of the shadows. I can imagine the Quincy fashion designer (like how Hugo Boss did work for the Nazis) discussing with Yhwach how to make it work with the themes he was going for lol
@dan240393
@dan240393 Жыл бұрын
Hitsugaya is such a classic, shonen genius. Immense power and ability, wielded with eye-watering inefficiency. Honestly, that actually applies to almost the entire cast. You almost never get to see a proper magical fashion model death match. Someone genuinely going for the throat is rather refreshing.
@dmar96
@dmar96 2 жыл бұрын
Forget the Quincy uniform, Toshiro got the black air forces on
@Michaeljefferson9000
@Michaeljefferson9000 2 жыл бұрын
The distinction was that because Hitsugaya still had a working brain, he was able to respond more efficiently to instructions than someone who was already dead. That's all.
@justinduffany5580
@justinduffany5580 2 жыл бұрын
I never understood how Luppi came back. Grimmjow blew away his upper body, so there shouldn’t be a way for him to be here.
@REDIVY78
@REDIVY78 2 жыл бұрын
This is Mayrui we’re talking about here,he’ll always find away. You also forget that not everybody read the manga so people don’t know that Luppi got obliterated due to the censorship
@stephenschneekloth1535
@stephenschneekloth1535 2 жыл бұрын
@@REDIVY78 Not just Mayuri, they where initially in Szayelaporro's lab that Mayuri ransacked after the fight so its possible that Szayelaporro put Luppi back together again and then Mayuri zombified him just like the others.
@jocoolshow
@jocoolshow 2 жыл бұрын
He wasn't eaten so his soul didn't get integrated into Grimmjow and he wasn't killed by a Quincy so his soul (the one that goes into the cycle eventually) still existed
@josnwalk
@josnwalk 2 жыл бұрын
@@REDIVY78 where can i read it
@REDIVY78
@REDIVY78 2 жыл бұрын
@@josnwalk Idk,the places I read them got taken down
@dinolover
@dinolover 2 жыл бұрын
Thats why i love using him in bbs. His attacks are just vicious.
@ezimakom
@ezimakom 2 жыл бұрын
Your initial comparison to Head Captain Yama is very interesting. Looking at Hitsugaya, I feel like he really is the polar opposite of Yama. He’s the youngest captain, he acts on his emotions, he’s the least experienced and most notably, he wields the strongest ICE zanpakuto. I feel like he’s supposed to represent a new generational power on scale with The head captain’s, but is just currently very young and inexperienced in comparison with still untapped potential. This is why Shunsui mentions he’d surpass him in another hundred years (which isn’t that long to them). Just an interesting take (I haven’t finished the whole video yet).
@tEzekielt
@tEzekielt 2 жыл бұрын
I bet your channel is going to really blow up once the next season of Bleach starts airing.
@reallyhimongod
@reallyhimongod 2 жыл бұрын
Lmaoo riigghhtt
@gabrielgomes242
@gabrielgomes242 Жыл бұрын
hitsugaya can probalbly become head-captain if he lives long enough
@ZzigZaG00NIN
@ZzigZaG00NIN 2 жыл бұрын
I never thought about how cool it was too see him like that toshiro is usually the captain that shows up and really struggles so it's nice to see it the other way around when he's giving it his all
@TheFallen_29
@TheFallen_29 2 жыл бұрын
This video deserves more likes and you deserve more subscribers cuz you’re not the bleach content man that we want but the one that we need! And you honestly put out some of the best bleach content I’ve seen on the tube easily. Love the attention to detail you go into with the story and characters and the colorful manga panels you use. It’s all on point 🔥 🔥 💯
@eavyeavy2864
@eavyeavy2864 2 жыл бұрын
Disgusting insincere comment
@TheFallen_29
@TheFallen_29 2 жыл бұрын
@@eavyeavy2864 Cope and wine
@bleachfan.619
@bleachfan.619 2 жыл бұрын
Love seeing Toshiro videos. ❄️
@bqw2094
@bqw2094 2 жыл бұрын
Really annoys me how this was the only time toshiro was a badass , he used his ice powers in creative ways , I remember a scene where he rammed his ice spike covered knees into yumichika , why couldn't the non zombie toshiro fight like that ?
@Rhekon
@Rhekon 2 жыл бұрын
Same reason ichigo doesn't swing his sword like a helicopter despite his asauchi suggesting that's a legitimate way to use it
@GandolfdaBlaq
@GandolfdaBlaq 2 жыл бұрын
Lol he explained it’s due to Toshiro’s temperament. More pure and childlike. He wasn’t truly a killer or a savage character. He just had finesse and raw talent that was undeniable. Him growing up in this era while his unbringing while rough didn’t hone him into the killing machine that Yama was
@selfimprovement5873
@selfimprovement5873 2 жыл бұрын
Personality
@mojus2890
@mojus2890 2 жыл бұрын
That kills people, that's why.
@djwoosie98
@djwoosie98 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing changed with his fighting style, maturity himself stated this. He fought like this against Hallibel as well
@nelsonmendoza561
@nelsonmendoza561 2 жыл бұрын
For the reason Hitsugaya and people who are turned into a zombie before death are more easy to control, I think it’s because since the person is still alive, their mind is still actively attempting to get out of zombification. This is why Hitsugaya displays little to no emotion at all, as his personality is locked away in his mind, which is still actively working, but failing against the zombification. Corpses are harder to control as their personalities are on full show since their brain isn’t fighting the zombification. I know that’s complete speculation, but it’s the way I can understand it best.
@NoLimitSquad
@NoLimitSquad 2 жыл бұрын
If Hitsugaya fought like that at any other point, he wouldve done so much better in his fights. Except with Aizen
@worksmagic89
@worksmagic89 2 жыл бұрын
I like Zombie Hitsugaya fighting methods better than normal Hitsugaya. I always felt like Hitsugaya was one of the weaker captains when it came to fighting. I never liked the fact that he just freezes his opponent instead truly killing them
@JanjoZone
@JanjoZone 2 жыл бұрын
Hitsugaya can't break a sweat because he's so cool.
@richardlucier1889
@richardlucier1889 2 жыл бұрын
i mean...he's a child....keeping pace with captains that have lived for centuries....that is literally all that is needed to show his prodigous talent. it may not be flashy but that feat in and of itself elevates him immensely. literally a child....became a captain....and is even stated by one of the outright strongest captains that he will surpass him in a mere 100 years, which is a blink in the eye of an near-immortal soul that can essentially live for millenia....he doesnt need to show off, the context of his existence in the story literally tells you all you need to know about how powerful he is and stands to be in the future. by dint of being in the position he is and the severe experience gap between he and his compatriots, that he exists within the story as he does at all, genuinely explains everything. the proof is really in the pudding with toshirou, he is acknowledged and recognized by literally every captain including old man yama....what more could you possibly want for evidence of is ability and potential??? as well, of course zombieshiro did not show his full fighting capability...he was under someone else's influence/control; therefore lacking the same mind for battle and intimate knowledge of his powers....it pretty much a ginyu/goku situation, giselle barely tapped the surface. he was a captains he controlled, that he was a captain-class comabatant was enough to use him even without being able to fully utilize all his ability. a key component to near anyone's power is their mindset and process by which they utilize their abilities. without conscious control of one's self, you can never fully tap into nor express the totality of your power and capability. whilst i love your work, this one highlighted your lack of understanding of some characters. that is not a knock at you, merely an observation.
@A_Black_Sheep94
@A_Black_Sheep94 2 жыл бұрын
He's at the very least 100 years old
@richardlucier1889
@richardlucier1889 2 жыл бұрын
@@A_Black_Sheep94 yeah....a child....a hundred years is nothing to beings that live for centuries without a sweat. he is literally still a child even if he was over a hundred years old, they do not age the same as humans, CLEARLY, nor do they mature the same way, which clearly shows.
@A_Black_Sheep94
@A_Black_Sheep94 2 жыл бұрын
@@richardlucier1889 Databook says he has the mental age of 20-25.
@protectedsouls415
@protectedsouls415 Жыл бұрын
@@A_Black_Sheep94 databooks say no such thing. you made that up. Kubo's own quote in 13 Blades is him saying when he originally made the 13 Capts he wanted to have 1 child character & that was Toushirou his 2 character profiles call him a child as well. child soul but child nevertheless
@yaezyn
@yaezyn 2 жыл бұрын
Mayuri: "Hitsygaya, I've come to bargain"
@thlamuanadara4030
@thlamuanadara4030 2 жыл бұрын
I get that reference
@Crunchysopa52
@Crunchysopa52 2 жыл бұрын
I really don't dig the fact that apparently Toshiro + Rangiku got their life spans cut by a discernable chunk as a result of recovering from this zombified state because of dickhead Mayuri's recovery machine lol. Oh wells
@gammafrost
@gammafrost 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I kinda felt a similar way. Like how many years did they lose? I wanna see an adult toshiro in his prime
@josedeleon3931
@josedeleon3931 2 жыл бұрын
Considering shinigamis can live up to 2,000+ years I don’t think we’ll ever have a timeskip THAT long, I don’t think we’ll ever have to worry about not getting to see toshiro’s full potential.
@Crunchysopa52
@Crunchysopa52 2 жыл бұрын
@@josedeleon3931 true but I more-so just feel bad their lifespans had to be cut down at all.. not even on a curiosity tip over adult Toshiro's strength potential 😂
@jocoolshow
@jocoolshow 2 жыл бұрын
It's like every other anime where lifespans get cut. You could either cut your lifespan but still live or you could not cut your lifespan and just die on the spot from whatever situation you're in. It's an obvious choice in most scenarios
@eavyeavy2864
@eavyeavy2864 2 жыл бұрын
@@Crunchysopa52 they already dead when zombiefied.be grateful
@professorpengu502
@professorpengu502 2 жыл бұрын
I think what mayuri was trying to say is that hitsugaya still had his mind so he was able to do more complex attacks than the other zombies
@demod2080
@demod2080 Жыл бұрын
Don't you know that the old trope of Good Guys being turned to the Bad Guys are often stronger when they fight against their own comrades? This is a testament of that trope being on full display. Guy goes from being a Lancer to a full on menace to the heroes.
@michaeldoukas4444
@michaeldoukas4444 2 жыл бұрын
I simply love your analysis that's in all your videos. Just spot on. I have only watched the anime. I have not read the manga, so that's my loss. But, I will say that Bleach is my favorite anime of all time. Yes I have seen others, but none can compare to bleach. Some come close, but Bleach still rules the roost. I have watched it from 1-366 I don't know how many times. My "problem" is that I remember a lot of the big moments. But some I don't, and when I see them I like getting surprised by saying "Hey, I forgot about that part." Your videos, while great in there analysis, make me remember things that I forgot and then I am "upset" that its lost the surprise. So, even though I want to watch all your videos, part of me doesn't because I like the surprises when I watch it again. But, I am reading the manga and that is even bring things back that I forgot. But keep on doing what you are doing. It is THE BEST Bleach analysis I have seen. I may try and watch some, if I think it won't spoil too much for me.
@ayakid921
@ayakid921 2 жыл бұрын
Just proved why Toshiro was so frustrating in the Aizen arcs because for all the talk about his prodigious talent, never once did he truly snap and go into terminator mode like Kenpachi or Hichigo vs Ulq
@BigHeadClan
@BigHeadClan 2 жыл бұрын
Hitsugiya is 100% always holding back in his fights. He tells Kira to flee when fighting Gin as he is worried he may kill him by accident. When fighting Shalong he is in the middle of the city and Orihimes home. When fighting Lupi he is fighting with others and takes and limits himself. Same can be said for Halibel where he avoids using all of his swords abilities like weather control. Which he uses at the end of the fight as it could kill everyone in the town and ends up almost one shotting her with it. He’s a beast but lacks control and so restrains himself.
@jaybuckODT
@jaybuckODT 2 жыл бұрын
Before I even started the video I thought to myself .. hmm sometimes Hitsugaya doesn’t feel like a captain (when it comes to strength).. i thought oh maybe I’m being crazy. But to hear you say it at the beginning of the video most definitely tells me I’m not alone. The only time I really feel like Toshiro was trying to kill was when he fought Gin in the soul society arc. He really bested gin, even tho Gin wasn’t going all out. It’s a nice moment for Toshiro, it shows that he will snap if you hurt the people He loves. It’s also his weakness.. and Aizen takes advantage of that. Anywho, great video 👏🏾
@jocoolshow
@jocoolshow 2 жыл бұрын
Even then he still didn't go Bankai so it wasn't completely all out. The only time Toshiro went all out was Aizen. Even against Gerard, Toshiro was joking/roasting him and being casual
@johnheslin6914
@johnheslin6914 2 жыл бұрын
iirc....at one point earlier during bleach, they kind of talk about a few of the different zanpakuto, and I believe that it's mentioned roughly in the same breath that, while Rukias Sode-No-Shiraiyuki is the most beautiful Ice type in all of soul society, Hitsuagaya's is the most powerful ice type, almost, if not truly on par with Ryujinjaka, but he feels that he wouldn't be able to use his full power without severely hurting those around him
@Juan.Padilla1998
@Juan.Padilla1998 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite Form of Hitsugaya next to his Hollow-like Bankai mask
@bcfb21
@bcfb21 2 жыл бұрын
I think after kyoraku is done as captain commander and assuming it isn’t because he dies prematurely then hitsugaya would take over as the new captain commander.
@AAAAAMMM
@AAAAAMMM 2 жыл бұрын
I just watched your mature bankai video last night! Haha what perfect timing :D
@juckoosaurus
@juckoosaurus Жыл бұрын
Toshiro Zombiefied is such a brute Love how ruthless he was in his fights
@devinnall2284
@devinnall2284 Жыл бұрын
My interpretation of how the whole zombie thing works is that if Giselle zombifies a living person they would still have the will to resist him so their personalities need to be completely suppressed but if they are already dead there's no need to do that allowing broken fragments of who they used to be to bleed through
@MaxIronsThird
@MaxIronsThird 2 жыл бұрын
Gotta remember that this is the Hitsugaya that perfected his Bankai and could possibly use his "evolved" form.
@FrozenTaichou
@FrozenTaichou 2 жыл бұрын
We ALL know that when the anime is coming back in October, Zombie Toshiro's fights are going to be censored a lot due to how brutal it is but DAMN is it BADASS!! Also what chapter was Toshiro a Zombie?
@vizardkurosaki15
@vizardkurosaki15 Жыл бұрын
I mean Ryujin jakka is hailed as the strongest fire type Zanpakuto where as there have been multiple times and instances where multiple people have verified that Hyorinmaru is the strongest ice type Zanpakuto. it makes sense that when Toshiro was unleashed that he would be able to do things on the same grand scale as Captain General Yammy
@zephirol4638
@zephirol4638 Жыл бұрын
I agree, but I think people underestimate the area of effect of hitsugaya vs hallibel. He was literally effecting a large portion of the town. That is near the level of the effects of old man yama, and on top of this, he was doing so after being weakened, because he couldnt fully control it from his own words. So the area of effect at full power would most certainly be far large and enough to encompass his teammates given his own words. and I'd imagine that with less power, comes the ice too being less powerful more than just the output radius being smaller. Which it was still able to trap someone as powerful as hallibel for some time.
@Kuzaki1530
@Kuzaki1530 2 жыл бұрын
Seeing Hitsugaya fight like this is amazing. It brings respect to the title of captain. I love the way he manhandles seated officers, truly demonstrating the galaxy of difference in their power level & skill. However, I feel like Kubo missed an opportunity in bringing the point home that Hitsugaya’s loyalties & morals had left the building. He should’ve secured the kills on them via beheading or something. We’ve already seen Shinigami survive much worse injuries in Karakura town to the point it’s hard to believe Ikkaku & Yumichika are in any real danger of death.
@djwoosie98
@djwoosie98 2 жыл бұрын
He manhandled seat officers in ss arc without activating his shikai and had no problem doing the same with gin or hallibel
@Kuzaki1530
@Kuzaki1530 2 жыл бұрын
@@djwoosie98 He did shikai against Ikkaku & Yumichika. Ikkaku leg was iced & Yumichika was stabbed with an ice-tipped knee.
@djwoosie98
@djwoosie98 2 жыл бұрын
@@Kuzaki1530 did I say otherwise and its yumichika. He did something similar against two lieutenants (momo and hinamori) in ss arc.
@Kuzaki1530
@Kuzaki1530 2 жыл бұрын
@@djwoosie98 Not sure why I said Fukushima…🤔 Ty. But Momo, imo, has never been a strong combatant. It’s hard to call defeating her an accomplishment, lieutenant or not.
@djwoosie98
@djwoosie98 2 жыл бұрын
@@Kuzaki1530 lol she has been a strong combatant, she forced three fraction members to release. Hell Aizen selected her because of her power. Again, toshiro fought exactly the same as he did before being a zombie
@walman9356
@walman9356 2 жыл бұрын
Weird I was just recently thinking to myself "Mrtommo should talk about Zombie Hitsugaya." So glad this happened!
@badrivishalpandey2171
@badrivishalpandey2171 2 жыл бұрын
I read TYBW Arc after finishing anime. I did not read the part of bleach manga before that. I didn't know about censorship so whenever I saw anyone cut down or slash down, I was sure they were dead, lol
@GamblerOfFate777
@GamblerOfFate777 2 жыл бұрын
I loved when Mayuri handled Toshiro with ease and toyed with him Mayuri let Toshiro kill him it was all a part of his plan to break his mind long live the goat Mayuri Kurotsuchi
@anjanavapati3131
@anjanavapati3131 2 жыл бұрын
Thats the difference btw mayuri and others he always finds way. He in a way defeated zaraki so toshiro well pretty obvious
@KiwiHavok777
@KiwiHavok777 2 жыл бұрын
Facts
@jocoolshow
@jocoolshow 2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't say that he let Toshiro kill him. He didn't let Toshiro kill him, but he knew Toshiro was stronger than him in terms of traditional combat and set up a trap with his death being the activation requirement. Reason why I say that was because Mayuri said that his speed wouldn't be able to keep up with even Base Toshiro without his device, and then Toshiro simply acticating Bankai and not even attacking literally blitzed and killed Mayuri since the mind loop showed what would've actually happened More evidence is Mayuri struggling to fight off Perninda even with Nemu's help while Toshiro on his normal Immature Bankai was able to 1 v 1 Gerard for an extended period of time even though Gerard folded 0 Squad training Renji and Rukia, Shinji, Momo, and a bunch of Visoreds using their Hollow Masks all at once. The same Gerard that was called the strongest and fastest Quincy even in this form and eventually beat Shikai Kenpachi Toshiro didn't get any stronger between when he was a Zombie and this point in time as far as we know unless you count the Soul Zenkai thing
@GamblerOfFate777
@GamblerOfFate777 2 жыл бұрын
@@jocoolshow Quit trying to build that vanilla midget up as some dominant force because he’s not Ichigo, Shunsui, Kenpachi, Byakuya, Mayuri, and Kisuke can beat him easily Mayuri has all the info on basically every captain and lieutenant he knows their Bankai’s and Shikai’s abilities he has them all in his data base Mayuri can take down almost every captain because he’s so prepared and he probably has surveillance bacteria in all of them and they don’t know it Mayuri doesn’t need speed and power he is dangerous because of his technique and unbelievable level of preparedness also Toshiro didn’t defeat Gerard nobody could the only person who can is Yhwach and Yhwach did and absorbed Gerard’s ass
@anjanavapati3131
@anjanavapati3131 2 жыл бұрын
@@jocoolshow even still I will put mayuri higher. Because pernifa is such an opponent only likes of mayuro can go against who knows things.
@nihilsnake4017
@nihilsnake4017 2 жыл бұрын
I just got Zombie Hitsugaya and Mayuri (the version of Mayuri from when he fights the big giant soul king hand thing, and from when he uses his improved bankai) both in the tenth draw on Bleach Brave souls
@_Sami_H
@_Sami_H 3 ай бұрын
I really wish we will get to see more of this pure effectiveness hitususgaya , I feel this is how is going to be later in arcs like the hall arc
@IZZYp1000
@IZZYp1000 Жыл бұрын
I think Hitsugaya is next up as the most powerful shinigami easily. He’ll be near or at the level of yamamoto with time
@vilkas640
@vilkas640 2 жыл бұрын
The thing with Hitsugaya's mind makes more sense than you think, and actually makes the most sense that way, when you get into what happens to the brain when you die, to your mind, vs when you're still alive. And what complications still being alive could pose to being controlled. Especially against your fellow allies, like he had been. Take a small moment to think about it, when already dead, there's no need to wipe the mind because it's already blank. Being dead means no brain function. Let alone brain function to resist being controlled. But when still alive, that brain function is there. In order to control someone better, it actually makes more sense if they're alive when you implement the control or influence to wipe their brain, wipe their mind, and thusly their ability to resist. And I think Giselle's ability works on the dead by raising them as you'd expect from a typical zombie, and the living by exerting influence and control over them, thus turning them into zombies through that. Which means that if that is the case, it would make sense that if she didn't wipe their mind as well in the process, it would end up allowing them to resist her commands. Which wouldn't be ideal in the heat of battle. On top of that, it could also be that wiping their minds is how she gets rid of their moral compass, any inhibitions, etc. So when you think about the science of it all, it actually makes a *lot* more sense for their minds to be wiped if still alive when she zombifies them.
@SemekiIzuio
@SemekiIzuio 2 жыл бұрын
"Wheres Isane?" "But that's not important " Lol
@flareinc7413
@flareinc7413 2 жыл бұрын
Ice see this now: Hitsugaya isn't the cool captain we know but a cold killer. What a chilling idea.
@shelid5
@shelid5 2 жыл бұрын
Keep up the good work. Best bleach content on KZbin.
@TokinadaTsunayashiro
@TokinadaTsunayashiro 2 жыл бұрын
He might be young in soul reaper but he is still over 100 years old
@jocoolshow
@jocoolshow 2 жыл бұрын
We actually don't know that. Rukia said she was about 10x Ichigo age or 150 give or take, and Toshiro seems to be much younger than her as no Shinigami so considered a child besides him and Yachiru
@GODOFAWSOMENESS1
@GODOFAWSOMENESS1 2 жыл бұрын
3:00 the shadow is in the window.
2 жыл бұрын
Maybe the reason that the zombification seemed more effective for Hitsugaya because he was alive, was because it was more efficient? As in, Giselle neede to use less power reanimating the body, so more power could be used to enhance the wiping of the mind, making the near reversal of personality more effective?
@nihilsnake4017
@nihilsnake4017 2 жыл бұрын
It’s cool how the ice can also be used as blades, or at least it seems as if it’s sharp at some points, almost like it’s metal but freezing cold
@A_Black_Sheep94
@A_Black_Sheep94 2 жыл бұрын
Of course. If an icicle falls on your head it's going to kill you.
@benjaminacuna8013
@benjaminacuna8013 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that he was a more impressive fighter as a undead soldier than in his entire career “alive” is hilarious
@skyrogue1977
@skyrogue1977 2 жыл бұрын
Him becoming an adult at the end of TTBW was certainly an asspull, just as it seems unnecessary. He also seemed really snarky after being a zombie.
@MichaelisBLee-nw8wy
@MichaelisBLee-nw8wy 2 жыл бұрын
There's much more symbolic depth there than many give credit for - it's actually much more than simple juxtaposition than MrTommo implied at one point.
@shadymann9468
@shadymann9468 2 жыл бұрын
*Maturity and growing from the immature kid that wasn't fully ready to take on the world being the main theme of his character, not knowing what happens to his Bankai when the petals disappear and being having what was said to be the strongest ice type Zanpakuto but it being unnimpressive: you sure about that?
@MichaelisBLee-nw8wy
@MichaelisBLee-nw8wy 2 жыл бұрын
@@shadymann9468 It would have been so great if Hitsugaya could have been there for Aizen's entrance to the war. It would have been nice if Hitsugaya was the one person to defend Shunsui's decision and accept Aizen's help. It would gone a long way to showcase his maturity.
@KiwiHavok777
@KiwiHavok777 2 жыл бұрын
@@shadymann9468 he never said it was unimpressive you just brought that up for no reason.
@KiwiHavok777
@KiwiHavok777 2 жыл бұрын
It was an asspull just to please the fangirls one last time.
@frostea7043
@frostea7043 Жыл бұрын
that initial ice wave Hitsugaya did is fucking huge. I dont think ive ever seen Hitsugaya do something that big in bankai form
@MT-ck5hy
@MT-ck5hy 2 жыл бұрын
I loved this fight so much… not because I adore Hitsugaya but it’s the fresh brutality of this fight like omg why aren’t the rest of the fights like that!!!???
@shortbreadgirlscout3463
@shortbreadgirlscout3463 2 жыл бұрын
The drip can't stop cause it's frozen. - black Toshiro
@dylanbchillin1504
@dylanbchillin1504 2 жыл бұрын
This video has taught me more words than my teachers ever have
@tobiisiba1641
@tobiisiba1641 2 жыл бұрын
Holy shit me too, I thought I was the only one who watches him because of how he uses interesting words to describe bleach.
@comboer3334
@comboer3334 2 жыл бұрын
Did this man's imply that freezing someone in a block of ice isn't deadly intent lol? Must have missed what happened when rukia froze somebody.
@N01Zephyr
@N01Zephyr Жыл бұрын
13:20 its cause hitsugayas brain would still technically be working so he could think and understand orders better.
@shay4068
@shay4068 2 жыл бұрын
The only reason why mayuri won The fight is because he used izanagi and everyone knows that lol
@jocoolshow
@jocoolshow 2 жыл бұрын
He even said that he would've lost the initial swordplay segment had he not made his device Keep in mind this same version of Immature Toshiro was able to fight Gerard 1 v 1 for an extended period of time...the same Gerard that fought Shikai Kenpachi
@anaideviveiros6597
@anaideviveiros6597 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome analysis, I agree entirely with you 💕
@TyarntSieghart0001
@TyarntSieghart0001 2 жыл бұрын
With the zombie thing, I think it has to do with the flow of blood to the brain. If affected before death, then blood still flows to the brain and you can say that it is more likely to result in a change in the way a normal human's brain is likely to change through gaining new memories or even losing them. However, for the dead, it might be that their brain gets set in place, where no new changes can be made, and thus the personality gets set in stone. I assume this has to take place after the cortical brain death to truly keep the same personality. I think if hypothetically someone had a cortical brain death and yet their brain stem was still intact, then even though they are technically alive if they were turned into a zombie then they would retain their personality. Of course, this is just my speculation about the matter.
@jerod5636
@jerod5636 2 жыл бұрын
I didn’t even remember he died or anything lol. I’d never considered him as a foil to the old man but it makes sense.
@larrymeadows7535
@larrymeadows7535 2 жыл бұрын
Fans: We want more Visoreds Kubo: OK but they're zombies Fans: ....what?
@marssaintsenat2995
@marssaintsenat2995 2 жыл бұрын
It's probably because since his body was completely fresh before he died or passed out all he needed to do was pour his blood into him the brain won't be damaged or destroy because the brain wasn't deteriorating nor damage it was a fresh brain so naturally he would remember his fighting style but because of his blood muster interfere with his subconscious thought or some conscious decision
@animeato7865
@animeato7865 2 жыл бұрын
Hitsugaya getting the love he deserves......even while dead...😨
@zerobarge718
@zerobarge718 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like I had the foggiest memory of these chapters before watching this video just simply because I didn't like seeing those two hurt like that. I legitimately think my brain tried to forget this.
@ivanzrno1765
@ivanzrno1765 2 жыл бұрын
i still wish there’s a better explanation for rose, kensei, toshiro and matsumoto being revived and what kubo meant when he said they lost a portion of their life spans.
@joshc33
@joshc33 2 жыл бұрын
i feel the main problem with this statment is you dont know how aging works in the soul society like rukia even after having children look the same the only difference is longer hair, even after ichigo loses his bankai ehen he sees all the soul reapers again they all look exactly the same except there hair so so we don't know how old Toshiro is, we just know he has the BODY of a teenagers
@A_Black_Sheep94
@A_Black_Sheep94 2 жыл бұрын
About a century old give or take with the mentality of early 20s.
@descima6783
@descima6783 2 жыл бұрын
Bro if they made hitsugaya act like a kenpachi in this arc imagine if they zombied the actual kenpachis or even Yamamoto or mayuri
@wanwoodology5346
@wanwoodology5346 2 жыл бұрын
thank you for doing zombie hitsugaya
@Eclipsed_Dream
@Eclipsed_Dream 2 жыл бұрын
13:24 I think it's because Quincy are naturally resistant to another's power. So it kinda makes sense why Bambi still retained some of her mind. Though I can't explain why Toshiro didn't retain his personality. All I really remember is that it was sorta hinted that Toshiro was slightly resistant to Giselle's zombification ability. Him not retaining his personality or mind might be due to having become so mentally defeated when Bazz-B said he was going to use Toshiro's power to kill Matsumoto. But that's just my theory.
@MultiFandom8isFate
@MultiFandom8isFate Жыл бұрын
Hitsugaya would be so OP if he's so merciless.
@KenpachiX420
@KenpachiX420 2 жыл бұрын
This popped up in my recommendations but, I really did not want this kind of spoiler, which is impossible to unsee. Can't decide not to see a spoiler, when it's the title.
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