The Textual Integrity of Bukhārī: Between Modern Scepticism and Traditional Scholarship

[@faisalwho]

His graduation speech at Qalam a few years ago was fantastic. He related the entire chain of his teachers all the way back to the prophet and where they studied, from memory.

[@aliagha1221]

He went to the WRONG SCHOOL! Satan also has schools all over the world!

[@marcorolo4726]

@@aliagha1221Is your mom the professor ? 😂😂😂😂.

[@aliagha1221]

@@marcorolo4726 No my boy! My mom died 45 years ago, maybe your mom is his teacher because he is been thought to be a Kafir suggesting that evil Book that contradicts the words of Allah and his messenger as Sahih! You must be one of his followers another Stupid Wahhabi kid on KZbin!

[@reww21]

@@aliagha1221 And yet you have learnt nothing from all your school years at Satan's school??? Oh pity...

[@faisalwho]

@@aliagha1221 said the aghakhani

[@sammu]

Br. Muntasir is a treasure to not only dfw but to everyone of interest, as evident here. I really wish I had access to him. Thank you Br. Paul for having him again, this convo sounds super interesting.

[@sedatpir1905]

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[@stephenconnolly1830]

​@@gash_taruk- is this relevant? What was the Aqeeda of the prostitute?

[@mikhan5191]

​@@gash_taruk- definitely NOT a Salafi

[@mikhan5191]

@@gash_taruk - it is for the vast majority of us Muslims.

[@mariokart6118]

I was worried that this presentation would go over my head but Alhamdulilah the brother has explained this fascinating topic very clearly.

[@info786]

he cherry picks info imo. He doesn't clarify if he is comparing a full copy of sahih bukhari to a full copy. My understanding is Firabri is the most complete copy hence it was used most. He claims sahih Bukhari was taught widely and praised soon as it was written, that's not true according to Jonathan Brown. He also mentions Daraqutni as a staunch supported of sahih bukhari but thats an interesting way of putting it, he definitely considered it highly but he did critique many of iits hadith showing they did not meet sahih status technically. None of his peers vouched for Firabri i.e declared him thiqa. I recommend people watch the video Bukhari gate by mufti abu layth.

[@zubaidaperoo7054]

Assalaamu alsykum from Cape Town South Africa. So proud to see a student of DUAI on this platform. Super proud. maashaAllah

[@Walpat14]

Azaadville. Not the CT DUAI (May Allah preserve both and shower sh Taha with his mercy)

[@zubaidaperoo7054]

@@Walpat14 I'm not talking about Azaadville. The Sheikh studied also at DUAI as I heard when watching the video. And Allah knows best.

[@fiqhonomics]

​@@zubaidaperoo7054Azaadville has the same name

[@zubaidaperoo7054]

Ok. My bad.

[@fiqhonomics]

​@@zubaidaperoo7054 as a Capetonian I was also excited until I was informed otherwise 🫶

[@abdurrazzak2970]

May Allah Bless and Reward Both of you in this Life and in the Hereafter.

[@MohamedShou]

This is literally one of my favourite videos on Bukhari and Hadith in general mashallah. I’ve just ordered the brothers book and may Allah bless and grant Mufti Muntasir Zaman more knowledge and may Allah bless and reward brother Paul for hosting this 👍🏾😁

[@PhiloSouz]

@@MohamedShou Bro heres the best of Bukhari Narrated Hisham's father: Khadija died three years before the Prophet departed to Medina. He stayed there for two years or so and then he married 'Aisha when she was a girl of six years of age, and he consumed that marriage ( had se x ual intercøurse) when she was nine years old. Sahih Bukhari 5:58:236

[@MohamedShou]

@@PhiloSouzok and?

[@TheRayanKhan]

​@@MohamedShouHe's a bot

[@PhiloSouz]

@@MohamedShou , take it as an inspiration, spread this wonderful knowledge among your womenfolk !!!

[@abuakmal9618]

Alhamdulillah thank you. Another morning tazkirah for me in Malaysia.

[@zamreedawood1714]

assalamualaykum all ... watching from Malaysia ... thank you Brother Paul for all your efforts in bringing knowledge of Islam to our screen ... alhamdulillah ... and also to all your guests ever since ... great scholars ... excellent work Brother Paul

[@pindigheb100]

This clarifies a lot of doubts as well as answers questions in my mind about hadith collections. I stand educated, thanks. Excellent

[@r.rahman12]

*The Textual Integrity of Bukhārī: Between Modern Scepticism and Traditional Scholarship* || _04 August 2024 ; Sunday_ 0:00:02 Stream begins 0:00:24 Introducing the guest _Muntasir Zaman_ , and his book 0:01:39 Muntasir Zaman's introductory comments 0:02:41 Muntasir Zaman's presentation on _The Textual Integrity of Sahih al-Bukhari_ 0:03:26 _Why is Sahih al-Bukhari important ?_ 0:07:15 _Central Thesis_ [[ two common questions on macro, and micro scales ]] 0:11:59 *PART I* _[[ background ]]_ 0:12:43 _Historical Snapshot_ [[ years leading up to Imam al-Bukhari ]] 0:23:33 _Basic Map_ [[ of the region where Imam al-Bukhari was born ]] 0:24:14 _Biography_ [[ of Imam al-Bukhari ]] 0:33:28 _The Sahih_ [[ what is Sahih al-Bukhari ? ]] 0:43:50 _Transmission_ [[ is the transmission of Sahih al-Bukhari mutawātir ? ]] 0:45:17 _Sample Page_ [[ from Sahih al-Bukhari ]] 0:49:44 _Transmission_ [[ of Sahih al-Bukhari ]] 0:52:15 *PART II* _[[ the technicalities ]]_ 0:52:48 _Questions_ [[ three queries ]] 0:54:38 _Textual Variants_ 1:08:14 _Graphs_ [[ on variants ]] 1:11:39 _Conclusion_ 1:16:42 _The Bukhari Project Website_ 1:18:34 Post-presentation discussion 1:23:52 Concluding thoughts

[@WelcomeToTheRezvolution]

This needs to be pinned!

[@seamus4055]

Another incredible guest defending the Sunnah!

[@mrmadmeta]

Alhamdhulillah! Sheik Muntasir is indeed a gem

[@KT-ht2xj]

Very profound . One would need continuous attention to grasp and understand all the arguments made in this video as well as the historical layout presented along with the arguments.

[@fabros9290]

Amazing work. I hadn't really seen a reply to the claim that Farabri didn't have enough people vouching for him. May Allah reward you Muntasir.

[@AhmedHassan-yc5fb]

Very nice video, Paul. Brother Muntasir did incredibly valuable work. It also shows that modern critical hadith studies can still show benefit. May Allah give you blessings.

[@fakeersaleemmemon6799]

Only with such a level of inner purity having the level of acceptance. Even if we don't have such level of pure mind set there is great Miracle 👌 of the Greatest "Each n every sect of sunny believe after Qura'an al Kareem Al-Bukharee is the most precious book on earth. Even disbelievers of Al - Bukharee refers various Aha dees Mubarak.

[@mohsyamsulbahri9601]

Very sweet learning and refreshing, thank you very much. Jazaakumullahi khayr.

[@karimb972]

You have rhe most incredible guests. You are blessed and so is your audience. Jumua Mubarak, brother

[@riyasrs82]

Fantastic presentation on this Mesmerizing field of Hadith science. May Allah bless you both.

[@nilamfauzie7870]

Beneficial content video. Jazzaakallahu khyr 🙏

[@MustaphaBulama]

Another beautiful conversation. Barakallahu fi kum.

[@emaadstoys7449]

Brilliant..absolutely briiliant..I'm sure the content is very technical, but the way it was presented was perfect for a layman like me...

[@jrusty]

Hi Paul, longtime fan here. You were pivotal in my embracing of Islam alhamdulillah. I wanted to suggest Sheikh Abu Layth as a guest on the show. I know he’s controversial to some, and I don’t agree with all of his points, but he has interesting arguments against Bukhari that I haven’t found a response to in order to get more insight. As I understand, he’s a Maliki scholar studied in Pakistan and graduated from the school of Medina. Otherwise I really appreciate the work you do. You are one of my favorite sources I go to when wanting to contemplate Islam. ‏السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته وبارك الله فيك

[@theepicologist8811]

Mashallah nice too Mufti Muntazir pumping gems! We both crossed paths during our time as students down Markfield Institute in Leicestershire, United Kingdom.

[@khalid6092]

Thank you so much, it's so interesting. I m so grateful.

[@MegaMideast]

جزاكم الله خير ونفع بكم وثبتكم وسدد خطاكم شكرا على هذه الحقه الرائعه

[@dinardkania7196]

Masha Allah amazing presentation

[@TimeGateMoments]

What a brilliant channel and presentations. One of the best out there indeed.

[@husseinelnahas3133]

A very good and informative video. Thank you brother Paul.

[@LADHA-z1l]

One of the most meticulous delivery of such an important message.

[@ahmaduahmed8760]

May Allah forgive all those hadith collectors and grant them Jannatul Firdaus.

[@aliagha1221]

Allah will not forgive anyone who made up all those lies against his messenger calling it SAHIH!

[@steveryder1174]

Holy Quran 77:50 فَبِأَىِّ حَدِيثٍۭ بَعْدَهُۥ يُؤْمِنُونَ Fabiayyi hadeethin baAAdahu yuminoona

[@TheAdrianSmith]

@@aliagha1221Great point

[@Regreg347]

If sahih Bukhari is fabricated then humans have not produced any factual work in the field of biography and history ever. ​@@aliagha1221

[@aliagha1221]

@@TheAdrianSmith We take our religion seriously my dear! If anyone wants to change my mind is welcome to try!

[@bodymind195]

Not gone through whole..but appears a treasure video in years to come.. years to come..br paul..may Allah swt give u long long hayat..to guide the Ummah in this difficult time

[@assalaamu-alaykum]

İmam Bukhari did a great job and you have explained it very well...♡

[@AbidNasim]

There is no doubt about the honesty and integrity of Al Bukhari. Dedicated his life to his cause. Didn't even marry. And there was tremendous appetite for stories of the prophet ؐ among muslims of his era. Caliphs and amirs used to spend time in the company of the reporters. But Islam was complete in March 632 CE (Quran Ch 5 verse 3).

[@aliagha1221]

Yes he did great screwing up your Islamic sunnah!

[@abdulbasith5152]

​@@AbidNasim who said otherwise??

[@info786]

Why is everyone praising this video? He doesn't clarify if he is comparing a full copy of sahih bukhari to a full copy. My understanding is Firabri is the most complete copy hence it was used most. Also extant dated manuscripts are hundreds of years after prophet Muhammad. He claims sahih Bukhari was taught widely and praised soon as it was written, that's not true according to Jonathan Brown. He also mentions Daraqutni as a staunch supported of sahih bukhari but thats an interesting way of putting it, he definitely considered it highly but he did critique many of iits hadith showing they did not meet sahih status technically. None of his peers vouched for Firabri etc. I recommend people watch the video Bukhari gate by mufti abu layth.

[@aliagha1221]

@@info786 They are the decedents of those who praised Abu Bakar and Umar who took over the Islam of Muhammad(SAWA) by poisoning him to death!

[@fiqhonomics]

The map project sounds amazing masha Allah. There should be the same for the works and scholars of Tafsir insha Allah with a time scale.

[@asepsumantri4939]

Much appreciate to this blogging for Imam Bukhari's hadist...

[@elmon-d4j]

A person who narrates a hadith is a person who has extraordinary memorization skills, is not a liar, is a trusted person, masters various Islamic knowledge, conveys it according to the hadith, does not add or subtract, Imam Bukhari is one of those people. May Allah love Imam Bukhari

[@sedatpir1905]

Cut the crap.. none of them were Arab. The writers of the 6 books were all persian or Turkic Jews

[@sedatpir1905]

If hadith were deemed important, God would’ve ensured that muhammad have if in text like the Quran. God forbids the Hadiths as it would he used to idolise the prophet

[@LionsHoney13]

big claim to say not a liar when some hadith are lies.

[@LionsHoney13]

big claim to say not a liar when some hadith are lies themselves. If you repeat a lie, but are ignorant to the fact that it is a lie, you are still a liar.

[@yourstruly5706]

Nah, all ahadith are looked at on their own merits and how they interact with usool uddeen. Many people al-Bukhari and the Aimah of Qutb al-Sittah narrate from Imam Malik narrates mursalaat from. It's strange he couldn't get complete Asaneed for them, but the latter day Imams did. Even wording varies from hadith to hadith. All you can truly take are generalities in many cases. There's a reason the Huffaz of Hadith were followers on one of the four Imams and not Imam Bukhari.

[@realhamzabarami]

May Allah bless you guys.

[@MohdYusufAbdulHamid]

جزاك الله خيرا . Very interesting presentation. بارك الله فيكما

[@haythem8748]

I wish this channel has an Arabic translation also… I thought this was a a great knowledgeable presentation

[@mohamedfredj4998]

Amazing research !

[@TKLMT123]

MashaaAllah excellent efforts

[@idrea43]

Excellent video, nice and informative mashallah. My favourite part was his brief delegitimization of the talmud and its superficial and failed attempt at an isnaad where it gives names without character assessments 1:17:40 mentions an interactive map of Bukhari's travels, why not do one for the life of prophet Muhammad based only on the authentic hadith?

[@Lolcats91]

Lol doesn’t matter how much u assess scholars aren’t infallible And if their are false sahih Hadiths It’s clear sahih cannot be trusted like the 7 ajwa dates Hadith in bhukari

[@ChaoticButterfly1]

In Uzbekistan we would say: "Alloh rozi bo'lsin sizdan!" ( "May Allah be pleased with you") Brother, hope you will come one day and taste our palov!

[@jamesvickers3266]

Please do loads more content on jinn. It's such an interesting subject! I'm not sure I'll watch this because I may want to spend the time researching jinn. I'm sure it's high quality like the rest of your videos are. But I ask you or anyone who watched this video, what Bukhārī said about jinn and to what extent resolving questions about Bukhārī provide more clarity about jinn.

[@Faith-May2005]

Thank you for these videos

[@uzicloud]

Assalamu alaykum from country of Bukhari, Uzbekistan.

[@khaleelorwhatever]

Will be buying the book soon InshaAllah!

[@Sayf-ny8cb]

Alhamdulilah, definitely getting the book❤.Allahuma Barik

[@user-eh2pv4sc7h]

Wake up! If you study the book it mocks rasoolllah. Don't be blind followong men on earth. The shia praise and love the alhul bayt. Sunni don't even know who they are.

[@Sayf-ny8cb]

@@user-eh2pv4sc7h brother why are you so worked up about this book, it's a huge contribution to Islam and our entire heritage , given your comment I would assume you are a shia, and for the sake of it , yes I am sunni. In any case we don't mock the prophet (pbuh) and we also adore the ahlul bayt of the prophet(pbuh) and in the same way I cherish and love the Companions of the prophet (pbuh).

[@JhuttBhai]

Great work keep it up ❤

[@mdershadulchoudhury7675]

It is an outstanding research work on the authenticity of Hadith. The book needs to be translated into other languages.

[@user-eh2pv4sc7h]

Books that mocks rasoollah and raises the status of Aisha when Allah rebukes her and Hafsa in the quran.

[@medicaldoctor2613]

Bravo brother Paul

[@shus5787]

Masha'allah

[@BinuJasim]

Masha Allah, this guy has good teaching skills. I listened attentively. 😂

[@PK.Civil.Servant]

Thank you !!

[@jamaal7505]

As salaamu alaikum Jazaakum Allahu khairun May Allah bless you guys ameen.

[@salemmosley5833]

There is also a lot of debate regarding Sahih Bukhari and Muslim in the Arabic-speaking world. 1. What should be noted is that when questioning Sahih Bukhari, no one is questioning Imam Bukhari himself, just the content of his work, the people he transmitted from and how the work reached us. 2. Imam Shafi'i himself stated that the most authentic text after the Qur'an is Imam Malik's Muwatta', a collection of Hadiths written closest to the time of the Prophet (PBUH), and that was transmitted en masse unlike Sahih Bukhari which was tranmsitted via one of his students, making the Muwatta' more authentic overall. 3. When taken out of context, some Hadiths within Sahih Bukhari can seem very problematic, but when put in their right context, only a few Hadiths are left which are subject to scrutiny.

[@fiqhonomics]

Can you give examples of "problematic" hadith?

[@LearnFromTheLight]

Strange argument or not, the numerous sahih prophecies of the prophet that have nearly all happened(some yet to happened) or the fact he made no false sahih prophecies proofs the Hadiths to be truth

[@TaiguRyu]

@@LearnFromTheLight Easy to say, hard to prove. Can you give some evidence, please?

[@Namiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii]

​​​@@TaiguRyu you can say the same statement about Quran 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️ its human work .. prophet words 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️ what makes it authentic ⁉️⁉️⁉️ So just as the quran is preserved ............ the prophet's sunnah (actions/words) must be preserved by god to fulfill the command "Whatever the Messenger gives you, take it. And whatever he forbids you from, leave it." ... so how did god preserve sunnah???? Through bukhari and all of the hadeeth scholars, how ???? Listen to the entire podcast

[@TaiguRyu]

@@Namiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii oh, I didn't listen to any of it. Brother Paul's work is biased, and I've heard his type of lazy religiosity before, using his religion to justify his preexisting opinions. If you're a Muslim it's forbidden for you to say that the Qur'an was written by Man, isn't it?

[@mariokart6118]

@@TaiguRyuwhy would any Muslim say that in the first place.

[@Kassalawy56789]

Thanks God for Islam... Too bad for those who don't like it. They have a lot of negative opinion to say about the Quran and hadith... Too bad for, we have no problem or doubt.... 😊😊😊😊😊

[@AmxCsifier]

Please make this episode available on podcast

[@mohmmedshafeer2820]

Barak ALLAHU feeq

[@zubaidaperoo7054]

Blessings of Allah SWT opon you. (Translation)

[@steveryder1174]

"Then is it other than Allah I should seek as judge while it is He who has revealed to you the Book explained in detail?" And those to whom We [previously] gave the Scripture know that it is sent down from your Lord in truth, so never be among the doubters.

[@isa-atm]

The problem with the Hadith corpus is that, it seems to be basically an open ended corpus where hadiths pour in more and more as time passes by: • Few lost unofficial collections in the first century; • Few collections in the second century with around 2K hadiths within each collection; and • Many Many collections after the 2nd century with an average of 5K hadiths within each collection. Let me pose a question on the basis of the below observations: • Every hadith related to Islamic Jurisprudence (Fiqh) must have its source in Medina, where the Prophet lived and taught the Fard & Haraam (Obligations & Prohibitions). We can expect him to have taught this knowledge widely in Medina, as this is the foundation of the religion and the primary work of a Messenger. • The Sahaba taught hadiths to the next generation Medinans. • Even if after Umar (r.a) many sahaba dispersed into other regions, we can surely expect that all necessary knowledge to have already been disseminated among the scholars existing in Medina. • Imam Malik comes along, does his best to collect the sayings of the Prophet (sall.). He collects a total of only a 1900 hadiths and refined it for more than 20 years. Out of these, only about 600 hadiths are marfu' (quoting the Prophet). • Imam Malik claims to have gotten the approval of 70 medinan scholars on this work of his 'The Muwatta'. So the question is: As far as Islamic Jurisprudence & Creed (Fiqh & Aqeedah) is concerned, why should i look anywhere else apart from the Quran and the Muwatta? Aren't these sufficient sources? Why do you even have to travel throughout the Caliphate to gain Fiqh & Aqeedah related knowledge, as if such necessary knowledge could have vanished from Medina within 2 centuries of Islamic Rule and an unbroken scholarly tradition?

[@samkb6374]

Your first statement must be reduced to 2 maybe 3 centuries. So the Hadith corpus is not open ended. It is already closed after Bukhari muslim etc.

[@isa-atm]

@@samkb6374 what about Mustadrak 'ala saheehayn by Imam Hakim?

[@fiqhonomics]

​@isa-atm that's not one of the big 6 books

[@isa-atm]

@@fiqhonomics This whole comment is not about the 6 books. It's about hadith collection in general 🙄

[@fiqhonomics]

@@isa-atm use the authentic books, problem solved.

[@Foxxxxx96]

The question isn't "how much of sahih bukhari align with the collections we have today", the REAL question is how much any of those collections align with what the Prophet Pbuh actually taught. Not to mention that assuming traitors didn't corrupt ANY hadith is a very dangerous game. OUR REAL GOAL is to know the TRUTH and dismantle falsehoods.

[@ahmedsn100]

This is how a logical person should analyze any collection of sayings or actions attributed to our beloved prophet pubh. May Allah swt guide us to the truth.

[@steveryder1174]

Without hadith there is no division. Horrendous are what the hypocrites say and do because of it, they do out of ignorance.

[@truthwillprevail1816]

It's a monstrous book

[@ashfaquei.k.426]

Ya Muqallib al-quloob thabbit qalbi 'ala deenik يَا مُقَلِّبَ الْقُلُوبِ ثَبِّتْ قَلْبِى عَلَى دِينِكَ “O Controller of hearts, make my heart firm in Your religion.”

[@ashfaquei.k.426]

اللَّهُمَّ أَعِنِّيْ عَلَى ذِكْرِكَ وَشُكْرِكَ وَحُسْنِ عِبَادَتِكَ Allahumma a inni Ala Zikrik Wa Shukrika Wa Husni Ibadatika O Allah, help me remember You, to be grateful to You, and to worship You,

[@xxxxDOS511xxxx]

Beautiful

[@isa-atm]

33:00 Who actually narrated that Imam Bukhari made a last dua hours before dying? I would assume that a Muslim would spend his time in solitude during the last days of Ramadan, and not narrate to someone else whatever he did, or keep having a companion all the time in order to record his own deeds. The thing is, the biography of Imam Bukhari itself is not part of the "Sahih" material, and therefore subject to a lot of later exaggerations and fabrications which could be done by his followers in order to bolster his image. Yet, his biography is constantly sighted in order to convince the audience about his dedication and righteousness, even before delving into his actual methodology. In the Introduction to Sahih Bukhari (by Azami & Muntasir Zaman), we see that Bukhari is quoted as saying that he had learnt 10K hadiths from 1K teachers, and that he remembers each hadith along with his isnaad!! Just do the math of how long it would have taken to accomplish this 😂 I believe Sahih Bukhari has its place in our tradition. But to exaggerate it to the extant of making it a second scripture that could even abrogate the Quran, is simply going overboard.

[@AsimImam-qp5wc]

At the 1:05 mark, the guest, Shaykh Zaman, says "the science of Hadith reading", which is almost certainly a slip of the tongue, as the context indicates that he must have meant "the science of *Quran* reading".

[@faisalwho]

Also just a nit Paul. You said what sounded like “kalaam” institute, where kalaam means speech and has the implication of the kalaam philosophy. The institute you are referencing is “qalam”, which means “pen”.

[@zubaidaperoo7054]

AI! AI! AI! Are you appointed to look for faults? We understand and Allah SWT is generally merciful, especially merciful. Reverts accents are not easy to conform to tajweed.

[@faisalwho]

@@zubaidaperoo7054 this ain’t about tajweed this is about causing confusion. A non Arabic speaker can still clarify the distinction between kalaaam and kaalum. I apologize if I’ve offended someone.or made it sound like I’m picking out someone’s fault.

[@sparephone8228]

We've had the same talk before with Dr Jonathan Brown. I don't know how many times they are going to say it, but not everyone believes that the contents of sahih Al Bukhari are all 100% authentic. I'm sure Ibn Hazm would have done matn criticism and he lived 1000 years ago.

[@abdulrafaykhan5252]

JazakALLAH

[@info786]

Why is everyone praising this video? He doesn't clarify if he is comparing a full copy of sahih bukhari to a full copy. My understanding is Firabri is the most complete copy hence it was used most. Also extant dated manuscripts are hundreds of years after prophet Muhammad. He claims sahih Bukhari was taught widely and praised soon as it was written, that's not true according to Jonathan Brown. He also mentions Daraqutni as a staunch supported of sahih bukhari but thats an interesting way of putting it, he definitely considered it highly but he did critique many of iits hadith showing they did not meet sahih status technically. None of his peers vouched for Firabri. I recommend people watch the video Bukhari gate by mufti abu layth.

[@economician]

@info786 My dear islamic modernist brother the hadithiyuuns do not even follow the Bukhari Hadiths that they praise. According to sahih Bukhari Muhammad wrote the Quran With his own han and wanted to WRITE something that would guide the community of believers in addition to the Quran. But Umar stands up and not only does he object to that but clearly makes a stance that the WRITTEN Quran IS ENOUGH as Guidance. In the Hadith of the pen and paper the prophet does not ask for a scribe but for a PEN and PAPER. Glory to God who teaches by means of the pen.

[@shainn2237]

Mashallah

[@LionsHoney13]

i seriously hope you understand the time difference between hadith being collected and some of them being outright fabricated for political reasons. for example hadiths portraying the prophet favoring a faction when those factions did not even exist yet. the collection can be authentically collected by bukhari, but that does not mean what he collected are authentic or true. big difference.

[@fiqhonomics]

Bukhari doesn't contain such ahadith

[@omar1187]

Keep in mind guys he is not reading the Quran. He is reading a translation of the Quran. Please understand this difference so that in the future people won't fool you into thinking they outsmarted Islam or found a contradiction or something. Only the Arabic is the Quran.

[@idrea43]

I'd like to hear more about the hadith in Nasafi's version that are missing that Farabri does have, and any other significant variations between the 2 versions of Bukhari So we have the number of variants in Sahih of bukhari from an extant farabri version and a reconstructed Nasafi version (around 680). Perhaps a follow up task could be to do a comparison of Bukhari; you could look at a document (preferably another hadith corpus of similar size) from a well known scholar that we have through 2 EXTANT VERSIONS produced by 2 well known and reliable scholars [PRESUMING such a thing exists]. *Then you could see how many variants there are between these EXTANT versions of the document and compare it with with the number of variants in Bukhari from the Nasafi-Farabri versions* Just as a way of getting a feel for if the 680+ figure is reasonable

[@nazhasan428]

I didnt know that Sahih Al Buqary has many versions like Farabri, Nasafi etc. If I am not mistaken, the one we have today is Nasafi version. May I know, where is the original Bukhary version in written form. Did Bukhary himself write the sahih or his students. Among the versions, there were also a variations. Probably it is similar to quran where there are different versions such as Hafs, Warsh, Qalun, Al Duri etc.

[@IZIKI-399]

Another Ignorant

[@isa-atm]

47:58 So on one hand, we have Imam Bukhari bringing two identical narrations, in order to bring out subtle variations within the text. On the other hand, it is said that Imam Bukhari left out "many" other Sahih hadith only so that his collection would not become "unnecessarily" long, although his initial intention was to do exactly that. And given that his predecessor Imam Ahmad is said to have collected 30K hadiths and Abdur Razzaq 18K hadiths, why would Imam Bukhari think that adding more to his 7K hadiths would make it unnecessarily long?! I suspect that after his time, due to polemical debates with many other scholars, his followers attributed to him saying that he did not intend to collect ALL Sahih narrations. Wallaahu A'lam

[@mikhan5191]

Imam Ahmeds collection contains many weak ahadith. Bukhari only wanted Sahih narrations. Sahih means that the NARRATORS are reliable. Therefore 1 hadith is usually duplicated/repeated many times because it has come down via many different SAHIH narrators.

[@isa-atm]

@@mikhan5191 we all know that Bukhari wanted to collect only Sahih. The question is when someone can compile 30K hadith in a single collection (no matter if it's sahih/daif/mawdu'), there seems to be no reason for Bukhari to think that compiling more than 8K hadith would make it UNNECESSARILY long.

[@mikhan5191]

@@isa-atm - do you know how big/long Musnad Ahmad is?????? ¿

[@aliagha1221]

wikipedia Sources differ on the exact number of hadiths in Sahih al-Bukhari, with definitions of hadith varying from a prophetic tradition or sunnah, or a narration of that tradition. Experts have estimated the number of full-isnad narrations in the Sahih at 7,563, with the number reducing to around 2,600 without considerations to repetitions or different versions of the same hadith. Bukhari chose these narrations from a collection of 600,000 narrations he had collected over 16 years.[1][2] The narrations are distributed across 97 chapters covering fiqh (Islamic jurisprudence), among other subjects. Each chapter contains references to relevant verses from the Quran.[3][4] It provides proper Islamic guidance in almost all aspects of Muslim life such as the method of performing prayers and other actions of worship directly from Muhammad.

[@aliagha1221]

Narrated Anas: The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "The people will be thrown into the (Hell) Fire and it will say: "Are there any more (to come)?' (50.30) till Allah puts His Foot over it and it will say, 'Qati! Qati! (Enough Enough!)'" حَدَّثَنَا عَبْدُ اللَّهِ بْنُ أَبِي الأَسْوَدِ، حَدَّثَنَا حَرَمِيٌّ، حَدَّثَنَا شُعْبَةُ، عَنْ قَتَادَةَ، عَنْ أَنَسٍ ـ رضى الله عنه ـ عَنِ النَّبِيِّ صلى الله عليه وسلم قَالَ ‏ "‏ يُلْقَى فِي النَّارِ وَتَقُولُ هَلْ مِنْ مَزِيدٍ‏.‏ حَتَّى يَضَعَ قَدَمَهُ فَتَقُولُ قَطِ قَطِ ‏"‏‏.‏ Reference : Sahih al-Bukhari 4848 In-book reference : Book 65, Hadith 369 USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 6, Book 60, Hadith ARE YOU SURE THE MESSENGER OF ALLAH SAID THESE WORDS?? AUTHENTIC HADITH BOOK ????????

[@steveryder1174]

I know, I know.... It's painful to read. Painful to hear out loud, painful to think that this is from Muhammad. Holy Quran 77:50 فَبِأَىِّ حَدِيثٍۭ بَعْدَهُۥ يُؤْمِنُونَ ------------------- Fabiayyi hadeethin baAAdahu yuminoona

[@aliagha1221]

​@@steveryder1174 Prophet Muhammad(SAWA) DID NOT SAY THOSE WORDS If he did that would mean he contradicted the worlds of Allah! Any one who accuses him of contradicting the words of Allah is a KAFIR by all means~ Do you understand ?

[@steveryder1174]

@@aliagha1221 itjihad lead me to Islam. Critical thinking and a destruction of my own pride and bias lead me to the truth. I see lies and conspiracy in the hadith. Son of a kitten stories sound like what rabbis used say. How alot of his stories are of someone naked. The biggest problem is with the stories of Jesus returning or of a mahdi. Arabs already got tricked once nearly 100 years ago with Lawrence of Arabia, the British spy who got the tribes armed and fighting the ottomans. That's how they got Jerusalem. It will happen again.

[@steveryder1174]

@@aliagha1221 hadith followers believe Muhammad will intercede on the day of judgement. What a big mistake

[@steveryder1174]

@@aliagha1221 all my replies are being deleted. Yes I understand, I know all to well what these hadith say, I read them... Unlike those who preach them. If they had maybe they would of questioned what they say in ignorance

[@ashrafulhaquerubel8798]

Bangladesh is Free now Alhamdulillah ❤

[@Samual.adis.Najmani]

As authentic as it can be, is bound to make mistakes. It's a great work of human, not God.

[@LearnFromTheLight]

There’s wahi in the Hadiths and it’s essential to your deen, are you praying as humans have told you or Allah?. Why do you reject the teachings of the prophet pbuh and treat him like a nobody, that’s a Hadith rejector for you

[@nhdnhd6710]

Are you a Muslim?

[@faisalabdelkarim6457]

​@@LearnFromTheLightHadith has contradictions, we don't reject Hadith we say some Hadith can't be from the prophet, if you believe it's, you are the one to provide proof, and you can't, because your proof is dead people, all of them

[@flykiller]

@@LearnFromTheLight Rejecting Bukhari and rejecting the prophet are different things. No hadith rejector treats the prophet as a nobody, they just say hadiths are fabrications in his name.

[@palebluedot8733]

Sharah of Sahih Bukhari by Imam Abu Suleman Ahmad Bin Muhammad Al Khatabi R.A is based on copy of Nasafi R.A (I heard from a scholar).

[@ahmedisl8]

Authenticity of Bukhari? The Quran and the sunnah are enough for us

[@c02_blast5]

You refuted yourself in one sentence amazing really 😂.

[@ahmedisl8]

@@c02_blast5 Sunnah is not taken from Hadith, even cursory knowledge of Faith would tell you that

[@letmetalk2240]

@@ahmedisl8 >>>Sunnah is not taken from Hadith, ============= So where does Sunnah come from?

[@ahmedisl8]

@@letmetalk2240 it is the established practice of the entire Muslim community, transmitted from the Prophet (pbuh) to the Ummah as a whole with Ijma and Tawatur. Hadith are exactly that, "narrations". Isolated fallible narrations which shouldn't be taken as inerrant.

[@yourstruly5706]

Sahih al-Bukhari has questionable integrity in some aspects or rather some of the riwayaat. The new studies can't produce complete manuscripts from Imam Bukhari's time, nor can it authenticate Farabri. However, I look forward to reading the book to see if there's something substantive.

[@JohnnieWalkerGreen]

20:47 I still don't get it. What does it exactly mean to have a writing collection in the first century? When was paper introduced and used in Hijaz?

[@Brotherzee786]

From my understanding different materials and parchments were used for writing prior to paper becoming avaliable as we know it

[@JohnnieWalkerGreen]

@@Brotherzee786 It has been said that some sahaba have their collection of a Mushaf Quran. Can you estimate the size of a mushaf?

[@guntekinazimoglu1276]

The only legacy of the prophets are books they brought. Oral transmission... Oral Torah... very similar and very false tradition borrowed from Jews. Talking with serious expression of face about isnad, so called trusted chain... Narrator criticism... In the environment when people around the prophet so deeply understood the message of God that they started to kill each other after death of the prophet. Common... Hadiths are just stories very often influenced by rulers of that time, full of nonsense and contradiction, please read hadiths yourself if don't believe. They are even worth than the ordinary fictional stories because they are claimed to be from the God and to be the source of Islam. In fact they are the reason and the source of sects - sunni, shia etc. which Muslims should avoid according to Quran 6:159. Dear Paul, I love you brother. Believe in your sincerity and intelligence. Hope you find your way to the straight path which is sunnatullah - the word and the book of the God only. Peace...

[@fiqhonomics]

South Africa representing masha Allah

[@user-eh2pv4sc7h]

South Africa bring led astray. Was to follow alhul bayt and not sahaba.

[@siddiki9778]

Is shaikh zaman's website on qalam wrong? Takes me to a gambling website

[@urbandsouza7279]

Next refuting cira international videos please.

[@deleonlibrado2462]

So they have the original of Sahih Albukari...

[@mr.angelosonassis3069]

Bukhari claimed that he picked less than 7000 Hadiths out of a pool of Hadiths of 600,000, thus leaving less than 1%! It cannot have been a rigorous methodology! Out of 0.6 million hadiths, Bukhari selected only 0.46% as trusted. But what was Bukhari's criterion of that 'trust'? Do you know? In fact, we do not know what tools he used to judge 'trust' or what criteria he used to reject 99.54% of all 600,000 hadiths he supposedly read. What we actually do know is that it took Bukhari 16 years to analyze 0.6 million hadiths. In order to judge over 600,000 hadiths within 16 years, working full-time, Bukhari would have spent NO MORE than 7 minutes on every single hadith, working 16 hours a day for years at the rate of 7 minutes per hadith. Common sense tells us that Bukhari could not possibly authenticate 600,000 ahadith with any scholarly certainty if he only spent 7 minutes on each hadith. The breakdown of Bukhari’s timetable is as follows: -600,000 hadiths / 16 years = 37,500 per year = 3,125 per month = 104.66 hadiths per day -Assuming NO breaks of any kind for lunch, 5 prayer times, toilet, public holidays or sick days, etc., Bukhari would have had: -30 workdays in a month = 8.72 hadiths per hour (assuming a 12 hour day=12 hr x 60 minutes= 720minutes a day). -104.66 hadiths analysed per 720 minute-day=approx.6.88 minutes spent to view each hadith -8.72 hadiths per hour (60 minutes/8.72 hadiths) =approx.6.88 minutes per hadith -It is unlikely that Bukhari analyzed any hadith properly in less than seven minutes per hadith. No actual scholarship was possible in 6 minutes per hadith.

[@mr.angelosonassis3069]

-If Bukhari had devoted a more reasonable one hour per hadith, it would have taken him 136.9 years to analyze 600,000 hadiths, working every day and not taking any breaks. According to the legend, it took only 16 years to do this Herculean task. Working 16 years, 12 hours a day and devoting 1 hour to each hadith, Bukhari would only have looked at 70,080 hadiths, a mere 8.5% of them.

[@ezioauditore7150]

Save Bangladeshi students #stepdownhasina

[@Asad-2166]

Save yourself! Bangladesh people were warned two years ago about Hasina and modi India Hindutwas! Did you people listen? Now get your nation back from this tyrant and make sure this never happens! You people should never let go of the Qur'an and sunnah your government laws should be based on the Qur'an and sunnah

[@sammu]

@@Asad-2166 Who warned them?

[@beastofthepriest]

@@Asad-2166 No thanks. Keep your bronze age barbarism away from us - also applicable for your Hindutva BS.

[@jostnamane3951]

@@beastofthepriest ???

[@javedmamun]

Masha'Allah 🇸🇦

[@munbruk]

Although Muslims did a great job trying to preserve teh hadith compared to Christians for example still hadith is considered history and not religion.

[@zameelharoon1714]

How are ahadith not religion

[@jacqueline1752]

Science and Hadith don’t seem to go together. It would be great if you could interview another side of the story.

[@stefanhenneken5415]

Assalamualaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuhu. First I want to make clear that I don't want to be disrespectful or anything. Just giving my thoughts (that can be totally wrong) that came to my mind. It's possible that it was already explained in the video later on, but I wrote it here when it came to my mind just in case it wasn't and I won't forget it. I haven't read that Hadith so I don't know pretty much anything about it, but in social media when someone has said something against Islam and I asked this person to show me where it is said or allowed in the Qur'an and they will "Quote" this Hadith collection and I can only say (because based my little knowledge) that anything can't go over the Qur'an because the Qur'an is the word of Allah and Hadiths are not. In my understanding the Hadiths are something "like" new testament is for christians. But as I said, I can be fully incorrect here. 1) If someone who wrote the Hadiths wasn't a companion of the Prophet, but wrote the things he/she heard from someone else who heard it someone else and so on, and even though those all are reliable names, isn't there still possibility of "broken phone" effects? One (bad) example is (because my really bad memory) that even if I am the first witness of something that someone said and if someone asks about that from me later I might not remember it 100% correctly and more time goes by, worst I will remember that. More people in the link would only increase that risk IMHO. 🤔 Barak Allahu fikum 🤲🏻

[@fiqhonomics]

Aslkm the Quran itself mentions that the Prophet SWA too is to be followed, His SWA speech is considered revelation. The entire science of hadith transmission is aimed at avoiding the "broken telephone" effect. Even non Muslim scholars conclude that "Muslims can be proud of their isñad".

[@stefanhenneken5415]

@@fiqhonomics Thank you for your kind reply. I ordered yesterday Sahih al-Bukhari: (All Volumes in One Book) what is English Text Only because I couldn't find one in Finnish (my mother tongue) and I can't read/understand Arabic. I hope that it's well translated and easy to read for me.

[@fiqhonomics]

@@stefanhenneken5415 May Allah reward you for your enthusiasm for learning His Deen.

[@mohamedyoussef8835]

God says "Or do they have another book from which they get their religion?" They say "Yes, we do have other books God... we have Bukhari and Muslim". God will not forgive those who believe in hadiths.

[@isa-atm]

So ... the criterion of the 'most authentic' of the hadith collections (i.e. Bukhari) require that it has to be proven that the narrators in the chain "must have met each other". Not that the narrator studied under the other and obtained an ijaazah to transmit. Just met. Like attending a hadith circle, for example?? Is this a solid foolproof authentication method? And then what is the criteria of the other hadith collections? That it is not necessary to prove that they met each other? What??!!!??

[@fiqhonomics]

It's not the ONLY criterion. It means that chains including people who hadn't met or weren't contemporaries are rejected.

[@isa-atm]

@@fiqhonomics Do you know the other "stringent" criteria of Imam Bukhari? Can u let us know? As far as i know, the criterion that I stated is said to be his greatest outstanding criterion, which in my opinion was shocking.

[@fiqhonomics]

@isa-atm there is an entire sub science of hadith where each transmitter is assessed on their character and their memory, if their character is deficient, they are rejected. If the memory is somewhat deficient, it will be assessed how many other transmitters narrate the same hadith. Have you watched the entire video? The scholar has analysed the data regarding the variance in the transmissions.

[@isa-atm]

@@fiqhonomics of cours I have watched the entire video carefully. But i wish you could read my question carefully. Your above answer is not unique to Bukhari. That science is what is applied to all hadiths. I was specifically asking about Bukhari's stringent conditions that supposedly puts his collection above other collections. A "stringent" condition put forth by bukhari is the "meeting of the narrators". Any other stringent conditions that are unique to him? Hope I'm clear.

[@fiqhonomics]

@isa-atm AFAIK Bukhari is unique in that he ONLY includes the strongest ahadith, whether other compilations include ahadith of different strengths.

[@user-eh2pv4sc7h]

His books where the Ummayds have misled the muslim ummah, not the shia though.

[@ahmedisl8]

Why not call on secular, critical historians to speak as you do for the Bible? It seems hypocritical to show errors in their traditions, but then clinging onto our own even when it contradicts revelation

[@fiqhonomics]

Christians and Jews don't have isnad for their traditions

[@ahmedisl8]

@@fiqhonomics the problem is assuming that our "canonical books of hadith" are free from errors, assuming that the isnad listed in them are accurate, assuming that the sirat and akhlaq of the narrators are exactly as they were described by other people (not accounting for bias). And as theists, us assuming that they never contradict the Quran even as if the text clearly rejects the narrated events and words

[@fiqhonomics]

@ahmedisl8 this scholar just proved that we can have 95% confidence that al Bukhari is 100% correct.

[@fiqhonomics]

@ahmedisl8 why is it such an issue for you?

[@ahmedisl8]

​@@fiqhonomics do you not see how the previous Nations wrote scripture by their own hands and said "this is from God". How they used their own whims and later texts to take words out of their context. They put the Torah behind their backs and gave authority to the Talmud. They put the Gospel behind their backs and gave authority to second and third hand narrations about Christ. Shall we not be worried of becoming hypocrites when guidance has come to us in the form of "A" book