The TF2 Magic Spell Tier List

TF2's Halloween maps provide a fun, non-serious experience for everyone to casually enjoy. Let's solve the metagame! Magic spells in general are super interesting, and I've discussed in depth of how cool they can be if done right. But while all spells are created equal, some are more equal than others, making which spell to keep a somewhat important choice. Here's my opinion on what the best spells in the game are, considering actual in-game use rather than just theorizing what they'd be like. Let me know what you think!
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Outro music by liledix4: • 🎵 Graze the Roof ︱ PvZ...
0:00 Intro and Explanation
2:27 Blast Jump
5:47 Stealth
9:02 Pumpkin MIRV
12:39 Fireball
17:28 Swarm of Bats
20:47 Shadow Leap
23:20 Overheal
26:53 Minify
32:39 Ball o' Lightning
36:25 Meteor Shower
39:04 Skeleton Horde
41:52 Summon Monoculus
44:36 Bumper Car spells
48:42 Final tier list
TF2x10 tier lists will return in one way or another! I'm currently considering combining all of them into a single tier list styled like this one, since most of the weapons aren't going to be worth discussing anyway, but I may end up just finishing out the series and combining them into an 8 hour "final" upload. The older ones are so old at this point, though, that I've had 3 different microphones throughout the entire series, so it will probably sound weird if I did it that way.

[@bence2324]

When the enemy uses lightning it traps you in it, basically draining your health from max to 0 without you being able to do anything. When you use it, the enemy takes 20 damage then kills you and walks away

[@alex.g7317]

Ye

[@landlockedcroat1554]

tru

[@sergeantcrwhips9437]

If it doesnt lift you from the ground you can try and crouch to get out, works manny times for me

[@FilthyActs]

It actually uses the same code as excursion funnels from portal 2 so you can exploit it with the exfu speedrunning glitch to disable gravity for yourself until you die ^ I made this up btw, eat my ass

[@mighty9003]

I can't tell you how many time I will skirt pass the ball then just get pulled into it after it passed me.

[@purplehaze2358]

There's nothing more I want than to mix halloween spells with medieval mode.

[@BoeBins]

Wow, how has that not happened yet? Someone should make DeGroot Creep

[@drillbitz2816]

@@BoeBins You need to be a developer

[@Finnboy-ml5jv]

Pls no.

[@littleumbrella1763]

Not very medieval then but its tf2 so ye would be fun

[@totallyupdoggin]

@@littleumbrella1763 pagans

[@rift3068]

Invisibility spell is amazing. Imagine bumping into what you think is a cloaked spy then you hear a minigun revving

[@callmestone69]

*"RATATATATATATATATATA"*

[@ultimatewolfgaming4171]

New objective: Survive

[@Pizzabros223]

@@ultimatewolfgaming4171w reference

[@prosto_a_user]

"I am the -Spy- Heavy Weapons Guy."

[@draconocor1309]

Correction: Rare spells aren't always in the common spell pool, it's map-dependent.

[@LauBauBer]

Apparently only maps made by Valve get to have the common spell pool without rare spells. I heard community makers only get to put common with a chance of rare or rare with no common.

[@redstonewarrior0152]

Skeletons is a rare pickup only spell. So it is either just common, all spells but Skeletons, or rare.

[@redstonewarrior0152]

@@LauBauBer Skeletons is not something you can get from a common spell pick up. Don't forget that detail.

[@aidancribb7061]

As a wise wizard once said "I'm gonna cast Fireball, its gonna help, Fireball solves everything"

[@YoutubeCommonman_Totas]

It does

[@yt-ru7dv]

Throwing meteors at the Target always destroys the target it's just true

[@beanie1694]

Welcome to a crap guide to dnd

[@Cheerybelle]

"I didn't ask how big the room was; I said I cast Fireball!"

[@undefind3426]

You forgot one thing about the skeleton spell: each skeleton splits upon defeat until they get to the small skeletons. Meaning that the enemy might end up fighting more skeletons than they can handle

[@percher4824]

The splitting doesn't really matter when the small skellies are made of paper.

[@Wahmageddon]

The small skeletons are easy to deal with if you're a pyro, soldier, demoman, and maybe heavy. Other than those guys, they're a pain because they move fast, and are tiny.

[@Aelfraed26]

He probably forgot to mention it because the neutral skeletons work exactly the same

[@absolutezerochill2700]

​@@percher4824in the end, it doesn't even matter

[@Nightmarehello-de4dz]

Tf2 magic spells tier list has been always strange case to me

[@edenengland1883]

ive always thought that there should be halloween MvM as well as medieval MvM missions where you dont get canteens and can buy ppells instead while fighting unique robot types that also utilize spells against you

[@Scout_from_deep_rock_galactic]

So wave666?

[@wingman2h]

thatd be somewhat worst like imagine you get something like the jump spell which wont even work with air strike and the robots just use every single overpowered spell on you

[@christiancinnabars1402]

@@wingman2h That is assuming “buying spells” means a randomized spell instead of pre-set spells you can guaranteed get for various prices.

[@edenengland1883]

@@wingman2h when i say buying spells, i mean in the same manner that you buy canteens, better spells cost more credits, worse ones cost less as for the robots, not all of them would use spells, only *specific ones* would use spells, and the spell using robots would use spells based on the specific robot (like a pyro that throws fireballs / a giant pyro that throws firestorms)

[@playcube4564]

Man vs Wizard, or maybe Man vs Merasmus

[@Josuemaneiros7]

Nothing better than being an invisible spy waiting for someone to open the enemy spawn door so you can throw the meteor spell

[@Aelfraed26]

But you can't use spells while invisible

[@Josuemaneiros7]

@@Aelfraed26 that's why you wait for the right moment to uncloak, sir

[@Aelfraed26]

@@Josuemaneiros7 But uncloaking isn't instantaneous. When enemies leave the spawn the door is only open for a very small amount of time. In addition, enemies can hear you uncloak.

[@Josuemaneiros7]

@@Aelfraed26 man did you know that doing stuff on practice isn't the same thing as in theory?

[@Aelfraed26]

@@Josuemaneiros7 That helps my argument, not yours

[@__matt__]

Stealth is actually amazing on Sniper because it allows you to easily win Sniper duels and pick Medics more easily. And if you're using the Huntsman you can go for some really funny Taunt Kills.

[@jvbutalid8316]

now imagine if the sniper is a bot (not the one in mvm). the community would be in uproar/

[@logemcdoge4620]

Yeah but its halloween mode so you also could end up doing a Thriller dance then die.

[@check2youable]

Fun fact: shooting a summoned monoculus actually counts as damage for charging weapons like the Cleaner's carbine, meaning you can even benefit from an enemy monoculus in some situations

[@greybigfoot1722]

The teleport spell would be really fun if they analyzed every map on a case by case. Surely there's more than just Helltower that the spell wouldn't break the map on.

[@CAMSLAYER13]

For once i can see why valve just sorta ignored it

[@deeppit3218]

8:08 I think invisiblity spell on sniper is very underrated. One time i had this spell as sniper and i used it, i walked to the frontline and i got a kill. The ennemy didnt saw me and moved in a straight line. And as engineer i can think of maybe ninjaneering or like using the spell and grabing you sentry to get out of a situation I love spells and i think valve should let them as they are. Great video!

[@legostuffman512]

I once used the invisibility spell on sniper to Jarate-Bushwacka a medic in the middle of his team. He ragequit while I got away alive.

[@deeppit3218]

Sick

[@LoraLoibu]

@@legostuffman512 Meet the Spyper

[@bruschetta7711]

At close range you can get a pick but other than that is useless, you don't get better aim, and Sniper is kinda supposed to be effective when enemies are not aware of him and therefore move predictably, so it does nothing in that regard

[@loganalleman]

I had fun using the invis as soldier to farm equalizer kills, but the healing actually kind of hurt that. I really wish the rocket jumper would let you stay invisible

[@Juli_is_Online]

Hell yes, a 50 minute tier list about the thing that best captures the essence of the madness of Scream Fortress, Spells. Some of them might make me wanna punch my desk but overall I really love the concept and think they make Halloween maps that much more fun, although I am glad there's a good amount of maps that don't have them.

[@areosmithwagon9890]

Another point about swarm of bats is that it is incredibly disorienting to get hit by.

[@Wahmageddon]

No idea why it flings you into the air.

[@Mutaburasaurus]

And you usually take quite a lot of fall damage from it.

[@dominicstocker5144]

@@Wahmageddon the bats take you

[@rebeccadavis3185]

Halloween spells? Since when could Halloween spell?

[@Zero2HeroX]

Since halloween duh

[@rebeccadavis3185]

@@Zero2HeroX Halloween*

[@Zero2HeroX]

@@rebeccadavis3185 that's what i said

[@drillbitz2816]

@@Zero2HeroX capitalization

[@rebeccadavis3185]

@@Zero2HeroX That's what I said.*

[@user-jj8ot2ij2m]

by using specific command "tf_taunt_first_person 1" which let you see in first person with taunts you can use minify in first person perspective really good for scout

[@usernametaken017]

this doesn't sound very balanced

[@kerbonaut2059]

i use the firstperson command which works just as well. Fantastic at fixing your aim as soldier for example.

[@Crazy_Dave_-lv2pu]

The stealth spell is kinda busted on demoknight. Using secondary fire doesn't set it off, so the enemies just hear demoknight charge sounds and then die out of thin air.

[@irefusestudios8075]

This year I had the misfortune of finding a lobby with this absolute god of a demo who was somehow able to consistently shoot a pipe, shoot a pumpkin mirv, and time it all so that it wiped out anything they aimed at, it was absolutely insane.

[@Casual_PKBeats]

You're definitely right about the PK Fire being super good, as a clip farmer I always kinda ignore it because just raw, good, easy damage isn't very interesting LOL, but yeah it's super strong. I do think you're heavily underestimating the PK Thunder, though, putting it in the same tier as bats, especially if monoculus is being put in A tier. Perhaps we've just had different experiences with it, maybe I play on more choke-heavy maps, but I feel like PK Thunder is just far too effective in a lot of common scenarios with little wiggle room for those caught in it. It can be prone to fail, but personally I've rarely experienced that. Usually when I get tickled by it, I can say goodbye to my life unless I've got a good spell to heal me or get extremely lucky. But yeah very fun video, and I generally agree with your takes! It makes me really appreciate spells even more, they really are such a treat and it's almost a shame they aren't available year round.

[@drillbitz2816]

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[@BeaverBotics2]

Great video overall. On thing I'm surprised wasn't brought up as a negative for the Minify spell is this: If the enemy team has an engineer, your going to have a bad time with the Minify spell, because the sentry knock-back is INSANE. While it may not kill you all the time, you are basically forbidden from getting close to certain areas, you will have a much harder time doing damage, and it can be risky on maps with cliffs on them. And considering God knows how many players run Mini Sentries on Halloween maps, this will come up a LOT. It's why I generally prefer offensive rare spells like Meteor, Ball o' Lightning or Monoculus if the enemy team has engineers.

[@CAMSLAYER13]

He did bring this up

[@BeaverBotics2]

@@CAMSLAYER13 Whoops....yeah rewatching it was very blink and you'll miss it so that's probably why I missed it.

[@CAMSLAYER13]

@@BeaverBotics2 yea, was very much a side note

[@yanderesnowelf7391]

Something about the invis spell, casting spells also removes the cloak Also, the minify spell's rtd variant, you can still get backstabbed even when the spy isn't looking down

[@Aaa-vp6ug]

Imagine accidentally fumbling a backstab because a miniature player was technically right in front of you

[@RdTrler]

6:18 I love the irony in this statement: he uses invisibility to ambush, but then an Engie comes out of nowhere like he did.

[@QuackZack]

That critical hit bitch slap caught me off guard lmao

[@TheSpookster]

I've got to share ONE super niche scenario where the minify spell is absolutely broken on heavy. Because of the double firing speed, plus the mobility minify gives you, using the brass beast can be absolutely devastating, because it lets you absolutely delete enemies with its extra damage. The minify spell basically makes up for the brass beast's slow speed, and lets you close the distance you otherwise can't, on top of letting you literally just drop down on top of people to delete them

[@turkishjanitor3666]

Honestly this works great even with other miniguns and I have no idea why did he trash that niche so much in the video. Even if a pint-sized Heavy cannot be as mobile as other classes when using this spell, combining increased mobility and smaller hitbox with more damage is still enough to nullify his weaknesses during fights

[@tylerduncanson2661]

Fireball storm has an alternate variant. Instead of the rain of meteors, it makes a fountain. Its still incredibly effective, but its not as powerful, and the icon is the same as the normal version, so its difficult to know which one you're about to cast. Also, the Base Jump spell deals damage in addition to its knockback.

[@normalhuman8732]

pretty sure the fountain variant is just a visual glitch where the fireballs don't show up

[@tylerduncanson2661]

@@normalhuman8732 It definitely has an easier to dodge hitbox.

[@user-un2pf4ht9l]

@@normalhuman8732 i think its when the ceiling is too low and/or the spell is cliping into a prop

[@microsoftpowerpoint4731]

Parachute spell can do a double hit for insane knock back very underrated. Also you can use other spells while using the Uber or bomb head spell in bumper cars. Last thing, you actually deal critical damage during the Uber spell in bumper cars. I made a spell guide for the bumper cars last year and love the mini game and sharing my knowledge of it.

[@ocfos88]

39:56 your skeletons got a mini-crit kill after you drank the crit-a-cola. I did not expect that to work in such a whacky order.

[@RealNikoPlush]

Funny thing is that taunting does not break stealth, so escape plan soldiers become invisible bombs

[@egg_ox]

Blast jumping next to a pumpkin bomb is a good way to find out the spell has the small damage

[@Hexagonaldonut]

A note about Blast Jump- you can use it to substitute for blast jumps as Demoknight, who really wants to be in the air for charges. If you're running hybrid with the Iron Bomber this matters less, but it's a useful thing to know about.

[@aperson-rq9hy]

I remember invisibility used to be my favorite spell because you could stay invisible if you only used melee weapons, I understand why they nerfed it but it used to be super fun to use.

[@tombraiserzombie2581]

You got me good, Great Blue. I almost thought you stole SpaceGuyOnline’s video.

[@pilotbug6100]

Ironically they are both friends

[@moronribbons5774]

8:21 stealth actually won't reveal you while firing the medigun, so it's good for making yourself difficult to pin down while healing if they're trying to focus you.

[@williamgrant3231]

6:17 I'm dying at this entire scene.

[@TimesChu]

You didn't mention it, perhaps because to do so would be leaping into Satan's warm embrace, but you can pair fireball and phlog for almost instant charge.

[@CAMSLAYER13]

I guess but phlog struggles in Halloween. Everyone has crits all the time anyway

[@sanspapyrus2932]

Nice content btw Always a treat when you upload

[@maevekaori]

The interesting part of going into third person in TF2, is that it can be easily reverted by having a 'firstperson' bind. Which will force the game to put you back into first person (but not back to third) so if you want to aim real good while under the effects of things like those, you can force to go back to first person by having that bound to a key. And if it doesn't... I honestly actually thought it did.

[@roccowashere7436]

I love your videos so much thank you for this almost hour long one

[@joaoostroski4778]

the invisibility spell can be mega useful for sniper when you have to deal with that pesky sniper on the other team countering you or to get that high-priority pick without getting spammed out. absolutely love it!

[@scaperist]

Tip: if you wanna do the epic Carnival of Carnage trolling with the meteor shower spell (like at 38:56), use Spy with the cloak and dagger (also equip the l'etranger and spy-cicle). Helps you camp the rare spell's spawn point without anyone noticing. Once you get the spell, all you need to do is find a spot to hide until Merasmus shouts "INCOMING SPELL!" Then you swiftly uncloak and place the meteor at the enemy's spawn point. Voila, a wipe is imminent! An optional thing, but if you are a true scumbag (like me), use a duelling minigame on a random person from the enemy team. It nearly guarantees you a duel win.

[@Arenovas]

No clue if anyone already mentioned it, but the minify spell still allows you to clip into out of bounds in places. I had some engineers on the opposite team build inside of walls using it on Slasher this Scream Fortress

[@anonymousthekiller5199]

Minify with 0 exploits: mid Minify with exploits: game ending

[@professional_lurker]

Stealth is top tier as demoknight, since your charge doesn't remove it. Bodyslamming while invisible and chopping their heads off is addicting. Fireball is also excellent for getting enemies to 65 or less hp for a quick kill.

[@royalhydra9790]

Ball of bats has another upside of bleeds being stackable. Not gonna matter too much, but it does have that over fireball

[@Sgnolbo]

I feel like I've warped from an alternate dimention when you talk about how people feel about the power levels of Halloween spells. All of these are incredibly standard opinions on the spells. Not saying I didn't enjoy the video, but I have never met a person who thinks fireball is a mediocre spell, and minify a god-tier spell.

[@piegod77]

out of all the videos you've released this sure is one of them

[@Boonetube27]

Really great job on this video. Even though I don’t play TF2, I can appreciate the small touches added.

[@quentinwojtyra1109]

I like this usefulness for each class thing u are doing very nice

[@TIIKKETMASTER]

Love the Tier Lists!

[@Jessie_Helms]

Cast fireball. Just fireball. _ONLY FIREBALL_

[@Lykrast]

Hell yeah excessively detailled tier list!!!!

[@LyraKeaton]

One very important thing to note about Minify is that you can use the command "firstperson" in the console to use the spell in first person. This works for every effect that makes you play in third person (like the stretch effect on hell train, or melee only effect on carnival of carnage). You can also, of course, bind the command to a key and press it whenever you use the spell This alone is why I love using Minify when I play scout, because being nearly impossible to hit by non hitscan classes can be immensely useful in any situation. That plus the healing kind of makes it a "no, I'm not losing this fight" spell. Getting it from the uncommon pool can feel like a bummer, since there are way better spells. But getting it from the common list feels amazing. Oh, and you can avoid getting killed by the spell by being in the air when it ends. No duh, but it doesn't take too much practice to get the timer down, or just simply making note of when you used the spell.

[@PimpCatTV]

cat

[@emeraldmann1329]

"Fireball doesn't really do support" You see, the support fireball does is "You don't need support when every enemy dies"

[@cable_company]

two things about ball o'lightning: it seems to have a fixed lifetime, but if it hits certain surfaces it'll stick to them and travel alongside them until it expires. notably this does not apply to the payload cart, it just fizzles when it hits it. second, I'm like 90% sure that if you're stuck in the ball and you airblast the ground, it'll knock you out of the ball's hitbox. for some reason. in my experience the airblast hitbox MUST actually touch the ground itself, you can't just point at the ground while 30ft in the air and expect to get out for free.

[@communistchicken2414]

To be honest just about every spell is slightly worse on heavy (assuming that you are playing him with a sandwich) because you can't use them while revved up so if you are mid-fight you can't shoot them without un-revving, but they are also slightly better on heavy because if you get ambushed you can quickly deploy one so you can have time to escape or rev up

[@Double_Jae]

Okay I’ve gotten some AMAZING use out of stealth on sniper, being able to walk out into an open sight line and take out their sniper at zero risk is insane

[@ChipDrewPog]

one thing I hate with all my being about shadow leap is how it simply bounces off the ghost bridge and so if you chuck one up the bridge to make it to the rare spell you just die instantly, ive lost so many spells because I just picked up shadow leap, wanted to warp to the manor because I won't make it in time at regular move speed and proceed to just die because the projectile hit the bridge and just slid off the brodge and off the cliff, warping me into the death zone.

[@JortGobbler]

I’ve realized that the reason I like this channel so much compared to other tftubers is that the style and concept of the videos really feels like someone who likes tf2 talking about tf2 because they want to. A lot of other big creators give off the vibe that they’re just doing it because they have to

[@LuigiMan2401]

One thing I think stealth is useful for engie if he wants to setup a sneaky teleport exit behind enemy lines

[@pantuternik]

You actually have spells on the Gravestone race minigame. Getting parachute on the first spell can allow you to instantly win by flying to the end immediately

[@cosmicorion6999]

Thank you :) you did a great job

[@Stumperman07]

Minify is god tier BUT only in very certain situations. You have to be Soldier with a RL with splash damage. And it has to be on a map that has 1. Spells and 2. Portal to underworld where upon leaving you are granted crits ands uber. And I swear there was a time where minify didn't kill you at the most awkward areas cause you collide with a stick. I'm going to assume all the patches to prevent out of the map glitches broke the end spell growth.

[@drillbitz2816]

Pyro is scary when they know what they’re doing

[@shybandit521]

Ball O Lightning is very funny on helltower because the cliff is so big and also I can expect to see some really nice clips of carrying an entire enemy team directly on top of a massive sticky trap you placed as soon as you notice that you've noticed you've got ball o lightning. Still not as much of a free win as anything in powerful, so the placement is accurate.

[@Soundbox3214]

Engineer can make amazing use of stealth. It's still situational, but it's very good. The best is on payload defense. You can get some sneaky teleporters up and mess with the enemy team, as well as provide flank classes instant access to behind enemy lines. These distractions can be enough to stall their progress and ruin their coordination for pushes.

[@mental_defect]

20:57 Ah yes, TF2's ender pearl. The ender pearl developed by valve for the game Team Fortress 2

[@mr.gripsandtheboys3469]

Minify as battle engie was probably the most fun I had on Helltower. Just spam a minisentries and annoy projectile classes, scouts and heavies with the panic attack and short circuit.

[@bedoop3870]

with the tesla coil, something i found useful in my travels is that if you aim down when firing it, there's a very high chance it just sticks to the floor. this means that a class like scout can run into a cluster of people, fire the tesla coil at his feet and now all of them are stuck in place and slightly visually impared, meaning a class like heavy or demo (or your entire team) can just mow into everyone in the ball ontop of the damage the coil itself is doing. it's pretty fun on koth maps.

[@KommandantSeal]

I've watched this 3 times and only now just realized what the Ball O' Lightning symbol looks like 35:38

[@cloudcutter_dy2]

A swastika. It’s not the rotates Nazi one, only the religious Hindu one.

[@chrisby4607]

I believe that the spy level for minify should be four arrows not three as I’ve gone on so many chain stabs with a minify spy.

[@monat7623]

I agree with the position of blast jump, however I think it’s incredible on sniper specially to get to fun positions that are hard or impossible to get to normally, so like rooves and shiz, there’s not a lot but that’s still an option

[@ori6n]

we need that rtd tier list

[@Jarethenator]

My best uses for blastjump weren't actually for getting places (I mean, that's just what it does), but for using it near folks at the edges of falls. I have knocked a few people off cliffs or into hazards using that spell, and at least one time it saved me from a backstab as I was just swapping it out for a better spell.

[@MrHeesman]

Bonus points for this video for the choise of markers for estimating how good each spell is towards any given class.

[@tailoredmuffin3668]

So glad someone else realizes how cracked Fireball is

[@TF-Boom]

Jump blast and invisibility should be one rank higher. Jump blast is a free easy to use mobility, that you can easily use offensive or as escape tool. This jump is so high that basic strafing will prevent you from getting airshotted as long as you use this spell while walking forward (a.k.a how you supposed to use it). Also healing prevents you from taking actual fall damage. Invisibility on any class is really good. You can use it as a really effective escape tool as long as your enemy isn't pyro. It also gives you ability to flank really deep as classes that because stupidity strong if you do deep flank play as them (like engineer, heavy, sniper)

[@staryoshi06]

The benefit of the bomb head over the boxing rocket is in the duck hunt minigame as it spawns a large amount of bonus ducks. i think it also has more of a tendency to fire the enemy player upwards rather than backwards, allowing you to get them over high walls.

[@distayy]

Of course Great Blue is creating the best content on tf2 rn

[@analysis726]

tier lists…?

[@adam13magic63]

One time on hassle castle blu was pushing the kart outside of the tunnel to second point, at least 5 people on the kart and as soon as they are outside the tunnel I hit 'em with the meteor shower and kills all of them a solid chunk of their team line up on the hud was just gone in an instance. Love Scream fortress :3

[@vulpinequeen9269]

38:59 I love that hit/killsound, I use it too

[@fluffy_knight]

Magic Spells have always been a strange case to me.

[@FuntimeBlako]

Also stealth can make you and your building's invinsible (as in if you are holding one it will also be invisible) It allows for you to play a secret tele exit in a place where the enemy may not check like right next to their spawn.

[@teetree6661]

Favorite use for the Pumpkin M.I.R.V. is to get behind the enemy team as spy before I use it; very effective. Have also had good luck throwing it out that top window snipers use on Badwater/Bloodwater's last point to surprise the people hiding in the sentry nest spot.

[@GPS.J1932]

I remember playing a match on helltrain (as Pyro) and an enemy scout used the launch pad to get to me and I quickly use the pumpkin bomb spell and I detonated it as soon he was about to land, I also got his respect.

[@bugsixtyfour7696]

The 3D Stacked Scatter Pie Columns triggered my fight or flight, like my teach just announced a pop quiz.

[@VanJackson-Offical-]

the first ten seconds had me on the floor

[@Orthros]

Was playing Hassle Castle day one of its release, while on Blu our team wiped them while capping first, I was on Engi doing some ninjaneering. I managed to throw Meteor Shower through their spawn door as they all respawned and got a 10k in half a second.

[@nickforgie4290]

1:52.-when the first one blew his trumpet, there came hail and fire mixed with blood, which was hurled down to the earth

[@jazzparagus1718]

I’d argue the medic benefits more from damaging spells than scout because noone expects you to suddenly deal 100 damage out of nowhere

[@NFG-Nero]

About invisibility spell i would put it a tier higher. If you use it with engi you can sneak behind enemies and build tele which would cause massive panic and confusion within enemy team because from that moment they would be under attack from both sides. (Oh, and you can trap the enemy with turret)

[@Alabenson]

Stealth can be awesome on a Heavy who knows how to flank properly. there's nothing like suddenly appearing in the middle of an engineer nest and tearing it apart before the engie even realizes what's going on or suddenly popping out behind a distracted enemy medic.

[@Anakinhall0677]

i love running around as a tiny spy and backstabbing people!

[@BottleWaterson]

the real trick to Ball Lightning is aiming slightly up, so the enemy floats away innefectually for daring to stand in the same continent. and if they go high enough the fall damage could rarely finish the job

[@methan1287]

In my opinion I think that the monoclus spell is as good if not better and fits the revalation verse as well. I think it is also extremely good at defending objectives and has a long effect and range

[@winglessdraco4865]

I'm not overly devout by any means. But the second you brought up meteor shower I knew it was going int Rev 8:7 tier

[@Archimo]

Meteor Shower and Fireball is just about the only spells that excites me to pick up. Unless there's a certain occasion where a spell I normally just throw away instantly is somehow useful on the map or for the class on the map. Also stealth spell can be really useful on engineer to sneak behind their backline with a teleporter and cause chaos with unexpected sentries either at or near enemy spawn.

[@georgewilliamshepherd4471]

Ye

[@racer927]

MIRV is an acronym for Multiple Independent Re-entry Vehicle which is in reference to nuclear warheads deployed via ICBMs with the idea of multiple warheads being more likely to slip past defense systems. Fun Fact: The MIRV Grenade was the secondary grenade for Heavy and Demoman in Team Fortress Classic and was going to spiritually come back as the dynamite bundle for Demoman in TF2 (and seen in action in the 2006 gameplay trailer).

[@C0DY420]

I think battle engineer would massively benefit from stealth because you can sneak behind the enemy team and set up a nest near their spawn

[@theunnamedaccount4009]

Perfect timing to release this video, dare I say it

[@joshuawiener5003]

Bat Swarm is perfect for landing airshots or softening up a target! I found lots of use for it, even if it's a worse fireball. Worse fireball is still fireball.

[@Imirui]

One of the sleeper hits for Stealth is Pyro. With the homewrecker you basically get one free building destruction, and with the backburner you get free back crits.

[@josephrichardson7254]

37:40 "An absolute Lobotomite". Yeah that sounds like me whenever I have meteor shower. It feels like it has the same effect that Uber has where when I have it I flub literally everything I can do.

[@datboiyt7112]

I think the minify spell is very funny as medic, you are just Mercy now. Tf2 never dies