The Three Possible Endings of the Gaza War

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The problem is that it is taking not only Hamas but also the entire Gaza Strip by storm. The devastation is total. The response to the 7 October attacks has been even greater than anyone expected. So far, it is estimated that more than half of all buildings are either in ruins or so badly damaged as to be completely uninhabitable.
More than a military, the Israel Defense Forces have become a kind of demolition company that is leaving the Gaza Strip a veritable wasteland. Can you imagine the horror of this? More than a military, the Israel Defense Forces have become a kind of demolition company that is leaving the Gaza Strip a veritable wasteland. Can you imagine the horror of this?
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[@randscott4676]

The UN recently lowered the Gaza health ministry estimates from 35,000 down to 24,000 total Gazan deaths of which 15,000 are militants, 4000 are natural deaths, and 5000 civilians as casualties of war. In other words, it is unprecedented that the military deaths to civilian are 3:1 the lowest civilian deaths in all recorded war.

[@edwardcoburn2595]

Wait though I though un was part of hamas according to the nazis I mean isrealis

[@n4049]

The current estimation is 1:1 combatants to non combatants. It is unprecedented. Shows how surgically the IDF operates.

[@godmode8687]

@@edwardcoburn2595 Not the entire UN. The UNRWA

[@anassuhail]

Total bullshit😅

[@jeninabuhijelh699]

According to the UN:”The UN's latest report, citing health ministry data, says out of 24,686 fully identified fatalities, 52% were women and children, 40% were men, and 8% were elderly”. Youre saying 15000 were militants but you took this bs from the isnotreali defense minister the same guy that called a calender a list of hamas fighters names.😂

[@urgaynknowit]

They F’ed around, and found out…

[@Deystroy_Zionists]

Just a big mushroom cloud where Tel Aviv was

[@godmode8687]

@@Deystroy_Zionists Surely you meant gaza?

[@jessica67987]

How is your plan different from what Israel did in September 2005? The only real difference between Gaza then and as a state is that it was demilitarized. I don’t think Israel would allow Gazan’s to purchase bomber jets and tanks to attack Israel. The Palestinians had a chance to self-govern and give themselves a good life. They chose to elect Hamas.

[@michael37377]

More nonsense. It's hard to govern effectively under a unilateral siege and occupation. This includes the West Bank. It's not Israel's right to decide whether they have a military, or indeed whether they have a state.

[@SashaTwinbee]

The Gaza Holocaust is not a blackmail propaganda holocaust dating back a century. The Gaza Holocaust is witnessed by the whole world on all means of communication and media. The Gaza Holocaust is the Holocaust of contemporary human values. 

[@anaravilov4395]

In Arabic there is a saying, if your house is made of glass, don't throw stones at your neighbor's house! No one asked them to start a war they can't win, then cry like...

[@smearluke5397]

This is not a war it is a genocide. That’s what people are “crying” about

[@reucutajar]

Prisoners don't start wars. Israel started this war. Palestinians are prisoners in Gaza and in the West Bank ghettos Israel built.

[@jancovanderwesthuizen8070]

@@smearluke5397Israel didn’t start it, hamas did. Now they’re bitching about being bombed to all hell

[@sherlockwho5714]

​@@jancovanderwesthuizen8070do you want to go back to the beginning with the Irgun. Violence actually started with them and other groups

[@leon19736]

There is no genocide. In every war civilians die. Not so many civilians died in Gaza. 16 000 militants and 20 000 civilians. That is not genocide. It is very low ratio of killed between militants and civilians. Very low compared to other wars. ​@smearluke5397

[@thepianoroommusic]

Why did you not mention once the radicalized population of Gaza itself? Did you see the pools about approval of Oct 7th?

[@d.tr6176]

Interesting reminder!

[@jeninabuhijelh699]

Ofcourse theyll approve of attacking an occupation state that has been imposing a full sea air land blockade on the gaza strip since 2007. According to the UN, a report in 2020 says that 60% of the gaza strip population was food moderately or severely insecure.

[@petergriffingaming12]

@@jeninabuhijelh699don’t elect a terrorist organisation if you don’t want blockaded

[@yusselfaveljl]

Even Egypt left Gaza. They didn't want anything to do with it. Situation maybe unsolvable. I don't know, but something has to be done or something has to be tried but without Hamas.

[@Lana97023]

Bez cionista i koljaca djece .Zivio Ham ..

[@d.tr6176]

@@Lana97023 Butchers of children? You do understand, don't you, that this reversing of look and putting your faults on the other side's back no longer work? You should not have used it with such excess.

[@userxyz64]

Egypt left Gaza because they were driven out by the Isrealis.

[@userxyz64]

​@@d.tr6176nothing excessive about your baseless, racist comments about Palestinians then?. LOL! Such hypocrisy!

[@maybrittwilkens6149]

This channel has grown into something reasonable. This was one of the best takes on the short term solutions ive heard out there. Good job guys

[@s92alpha8]

Please stop putting this unneccesary music in the background. It's really annoying

[@illuminaut9148]

It is annoying as f**k. I even skip the areas of the music.

[@behl557]

It’s used to hype up your mood so that you might ignore logic and not think

[@illuminaut9148]

@@behl557 Nah, it is just outdated SOP. Logic is up to everyone for themselves regardless of music. In regards to this theme, when both sides are in this situation, only the high level of collective consciousness in resonance of high level of intellect can align things in to place. The else will remain stronger than hate.

[@woolymoldy]

I commend you for putting up an opinion on the subject. It is nearly impossible to talk about this without eliciting an avalanche of negative responses. Unfortunately, it appears that Hamas has cut-off Palestinian's chances of having their own state. After the October 7th attack, Israel is unlikely to agree to give any autonomy to Gaza. It must undergo a process of de-radicalization. This process will likely take multiple generations. Along the way, all parties involved must do everything in their power to improve the Gazans' quality of life. The last 19 years produced a generation of people who don't know any better.

[@ibnlahad2982]

You really think israel can teach Palestinians to not hate them while also occupying and oppressing them ? Palestinians don't learn from themselves to hate israel israel displays why Palestinians should hate israel

[@USG503]

It’s funny when people act like everything started on October 7. Like Israel hadn’t been funding Hamas. Like Israel lobby hasn’t done everything in their power to have Gaza’s people live like prisoners. Like Israel had not been mowing the lawn to implant fear in the Palestinians……..

[@d.tr6176]

The Gazans' quality of life will improve when they quit living in the past, quit depending on other countries and start taking charge of themselves.

[@MountainWaterPV]

Hmas was funded and supported by Netanyahu specifically because he wanted to weaken the PLO/FATAH... ... Israel is a failed colonial project. Foreigners cannot occupy and dominate the local indigenous population

[@peaked_aussie]

@@d.tr6176 Never heard of the 17-year blockade evidently.

[@aM-kh5jv]

It’s a great idea But the Palestinians will never agree. They want all of the land of Israel for themselves and just for them.

[@tauceti8060]

Fake News

[@d.tr6176]

It's not because they want the land: they'll let it go to waste, as is their custom. Wnat they want is for the Isreaelis not to have it.

[@edwardcoburn2595]

It is there land it was stollen on 1948

[@danghoangluong2942]

@@edwardcoburn2595 it wasn't their land. They only owned 6% of the land before that

[@IQstrategy]

Ending is just beginning of a new phase of conflict. Realize that neither side is going away. More pain inflicted just cycles back as greater waves of vicious hate and then exploding pain.

[@avimoyal149]

It was not true at the end of World War II and it is not true here

[@nygeriunprence]

Hamas, the terrorist group, is most definitely going away.

[@BBBrasil]

No, you are wrong. Have the following thought experiment: 1) Hamas decide to put away their weapons and declare unilateral stop to violence and disband its armed forces. What would happen? 2) Israel decide to put away their weapons and declare unilateral stop to violence and disband its armed forces. What would happen?

[@MOME914]

If hms put away their weapons Gaza would end up like the West Bank. If Israel withdrew back to 67 borders the conflict would be largely over

[@Burrburrcloud]

One side will return home to allow the other side to have their land back!

[@ewok40k]

It is amazing that rural, farmland West Bank has better economy than port city that could have been bustling trade hub.

[@noahstevens3060]

It's amazing how communities are separated by walls where it takes children 2 hours to get through checkpoints to go to school. How civilized and progressive.

[@bigpapa1954]

Why are those walls there though?

[@tayy5683]

@@bigpapa1954 to protect people illegally living in someone elses land who commit terrorism against the locals from getting consequences

[@williamalfonso1373]

@@tayy5683 Also to protect against sniper fire

[@Anisky123]

@@noahstevens3060Um, no.

[@dunnowy123]

If we're judging by the track records of Arab countries, I can't imagine an independent Palestine would be a utopia. More likely, lacking oil wealth, being landlocked and split between two states, and having a relatively small population, it'd be pretty poor and politically chaotic. I don't think generations of violent Islamism will translate well into this imagined liberal democracy that Western leftists believe either. Independent Palestine would probably be akin to Pakistan...with an East and West Pakistan that will never actually come together and eventually split apart. The reason Israeli political and military elites want to avoid an independent Palestine is yes, SOME strains of Zionism that want all of the land, but mostly because they fear the chaos, foreign influence, and instability that will almost certainly result from it.

[@kobi2187]

Yes. correct in my opinion.

[@s0l0r1d4]

I'm about to sound crazy but when that happens and a worse case scenario occurs, some kinda civil war breaking out, Isreal will be fine, the Palestinan factions will be too distracted with the infighting, as long as they don't intervene they'll go unscathed

[@Lifeperhour94]

That be completely naive way of thinking. Lebanon let a fully armed PLO in from Jordan. Two years later Lebanon was in a full blown civil war. The whole region is full of Islamic terrorists and you think this is a good idea to have right next to you ? With this Palestine would have direct access via Iraq to get arms supplies from Iran to attack Israel with. The wall was never built for racist reasons but to literally keep the suicide bombers and jihadists at bay. Whole regions been for decades mega radicalised thanks to the PLO and it blew out into full blown Hamas in Gaza. There’s no going back now. A free Palestine cannot physically exist because it threatens society as a whole.

[@d.tr6176]

@@kobi2187 With accent on the chaos.

[@zzzzzzzzzzzz446]

ya lebih baik menjadi negara miskin, dari pada harus dipenjara oleh pengungsi ilegal itu.

[@israelmenczer7538]

If I can add It doesn’t matter whatever plan you’re suggesting Because as long that you will have people growing up with hate , nothing will change The only civil solution to the Gaza People, is education A civil system must take full control of the education Start educating the young generation to love and be productive And in the same time have a good economic system with time the people will just start valuing life

[@kobi2187]

Finally a bright comment! But you know this means Israel will need to provide the education to prevent Antisemitism in the text books, and also backlash and interference from the new underground muslim citizens. Then you have all those verses in the Quran. Unless you plan on censoring those parts of their religion and culture. The direction you suggest is very good in my opinion, but also too simplistic.

[@d.tr6176]

I'm sure they call what they do to their children "education".

[@d.tr6176]

One thing: none of that can be put in the hands of the UN or any of its disguised forms.

[@d.tr6176]

@@kobi2187 But the principle is sound.

[@rogerjohnson2562]

so you are saying a solution is impossible.

[@izzykhach]

I don't get it. This is the nature of a counterinsurgency. This is what the US had to deal with in Iraq. It takes time and patience. And I wouldn't take what Israeli politicians from opposing parties say as gospel. They are all vying to topple Netanyahu and are looking out for their own self interest.

[@stephanie4200]

Where are the billions of aid money given to Gaza - ask Hamas?!!!!!!!!

[@eifelitorn]

yeah ask Bibi why he funded Hamas

[@viciousmindzentertainment9307]

In war the war chest is not left in the keep...also they had a functional government city buildings a airport but Israel bomb it...people act like this isn't a governmental battle you can't attack anyone government or people without a response I don't care what flag you wave

[@Imaan815]

Ask ur Bibi he conspired it to eliminate PLO but it backfired 😮😂😂nw cry wolf 🇵🇸will be free❤✌️

[@arturferrao7353]

Here's what happened to the money: Damage to European Union-funded projects in Palestine during Israeli attacks and other incursions is nothing new. However, following the union’s move in 2015 to label Israeli settlement products, the number of EU-funded projects demolished or confiscated by Israel increased dramatically. In the first three months of 2016, the number of demolitions per month, of either private property or Internationally/EU-funded projects, increased to 165, from an average of 50 during 2012-2015, The United Nations office for coordination of humanitarian affairs 'OCHA' has documented 120 demolitions against EU-financed buildings in the first three months of 2016. Source: Squandered Aid: Israel’s repetitive destruction of EU-funded projects in Palestine

[@arturferrao7353]

And: Euro-Med Monitor estimates that since 2001, the Israeli authorities have destroyed approximately 150 development projects, of which totally or partial funded by the EC and its member states, of what incurs the EU a financial loss of approximately €58 million out of the total €85 million worth of damage. Euro-Med Monitor also estimates that since 2001, the total value of EU squandered aid money (development and humanitarian projects)amounts to €65million-of which at least €23million were lost during the 2014 assault alone. Source: Squandered Aid: Israel’s repetitive destruction of EU-funded projects in Palestine

[@Michael-mg3lo]

Of course there is no plan.

[@user-md4gk3we3z]

Hamas will never go away because Palestinians are hamas😂😂😂

[@avimoyal149]

This was kind of true about the Germans and the Nazis, yet the Nazis finished their role in the world and so will probably Hamas in the next few years

[@LevNikolayevichMyshkin]

@@avimoyal149 The whole reason Nazis were so popular was what happened to Germany after ww1 and facism and Nazis lost popularity after Germany was allowed to rebuild and regain control of its territory following ww2. Israel will never allow gaza to be treated as Germany after ww2 because that would mean allowing the creation of a functioning palestinian state.

[@IQstrategy]

Some Palestinians are Hamas but not all. Not sure about Hamas, but over generalized poor sarcasm will never go away.

[@noahstevens3060]

​@@avimoyal149It's literally the opposite, naz still exist everywhere ham won't end but the Izzy will.

[@bigpapa1954]

A vast majority supports them though. Even more then supported the Nazis, even though they had something going for them. Hamas didn't help anybody so far.

[@eoinoconnell185]

The core problem for Israel is it's location. Let's face it, the Middle East isn't synonymous with peace. According to Ronald Storrs (British governor of Jerusalem in 1917), Balfour Declaration’s purpose was to form a “little loyal Jewish Ulster in a sea of potentially hostile Arabism”. And with all the similar traits, it appears he succeeded in doing just that.

[@randscott4676]

At least 370,000 housing units in Gaza have been damaged, including 79,000 destroyed completely, the report said, along with commercial buildings.

[@liorajacob8094]

That statistic is consistent with estimates of at least 2/3 of buildings turned into terror bases of some kind, with ubiquitous weapons caches, booby traps, tunnel shafts, rocket launchers, command centers, and underground tunnels which when destroyed damage the buildings above. All this confirmed by the thousands of soldiers on the ground.

[@mrichgol4288]

And the kids bedrooms were loaded with grenades and guns stuffed in teddy bears but Gaza was so safe right? That place was an undercover war zone operation.

[@zamfully]

It's that all how disappointing

[@sherlockwho5714]

​@@liorajacob8094estimate means a guess. Hamas has tunnels and Israel avoided clearing them out.

[@RedPhoenix550]

Why so little?

[@thekneidlachengineer6038]

"When peace comes we will perhaps in time be able to forgive the Arabs for killing our sons, but it will be harder for us to forgive them for having forced us to kill their sons. Peace will come when the Arabs will love their children more than they hate us". Golda Meir

[@d.tr6176]

So peace is not in view.

[@AlBlitz54]

What a stupid quote

[@thekneidlachengineer6038]

@@AlBlitz54 Do you know who she was? Sure not..

[@twoforcesinbalance1543]

hell is hot for Golda

[@AlBlitz54]

@@thekneidlachengineer6038 yeah she is a zionist

[@elohimhutov]

Why don't Egypt and Jordan just allow them back inside their countries and give citizenship to their Muslim brethren - seeing as these so-called Palestinians, (actually just arabs) originally came from these arab countries, before they settled on the Jewish homeland, dating back over 3,000 years. Most of these arabs were working on the land, for the Ottoman Empire. Alternatively, Ireland may want to have all the arabs in Gaza move to Ireland, or perhaps Spain, Norway or Sweden, could accomodate them? Campuses in the US, Europe and the UK could also accomodate them. There are many options.

[@rogerjohnson2562]

It would work!!! but its one of the 'dream' options he mentioned cuz of adverse trigger reaction to 'ethnic cleansing' ...

[@osdiab]

Lol at the idea that the Arabs are the settlers and not the Israelis

[@Sheundjd]

@@osdiab lol the Idea of you guys ever winning a war against and not the other way around oh yah that’s not gonna happen we’ll always win😂

[@Jess-jz9uc]

You are talking about ethnic cleansing. This is a race of people, not just Arabs. Lots of the Israelis are Arab in origin too, should they move? Should Ukraine give up the East because a lot are ethnically more Russian? Judaism is a race and a religion, Islam is a religion not a race. Palestine was not a formal country because of the British. Just like South Africa, Israel is an apartheid state that is trying to force native populations to the periphery so they can colonise the lot. The only way this is resolved, and for both sides to have peace, is for both to acknowledge each other and figure out how to divide the land fairly. When each has autonomy and self determination, then healing can begin and more options appear on the table.

[@userxyz64]

Quit your propaganda. Recent studies have shown that Palestinian DNA has an 81% match with Bronze Age remains in that region meaning that Palestinians are indigenous for the last 3700 years. During that period they have been Jewish, Christian and Muslim in succession. That they speak Arabic does not make them Arabs anymore than speaking English makes one English. Contrary to your suggestion, all those Pasestinians refugees who were driven out to Jorda Egypt and Lebanon need to be allowed to come home to Pasestine.

[@user-dq7mn3jy7w]

Not again 7th of oct.........

[@janovmi2]

not supporting them = instantly censorship, i wish yt staff had to spend month long vacation in there

[@Padtedesco]

True. They know the only viable outcome, they just dont want to listen. EVERY! Semite must be free.

[@dunnowy123]

What are you talking about? There are literally THOUSANDS of KZbin videos that are pro-Palestinian and millions of comments.

[@leekasten3921]

There can only be one Isreal. Not 2, not 3. Only One. The Arabs have most of the Middle East already along with the Persians.

[@Lana97023]

Hocete li to mizda vi vecinu Bliskog istoka .Naucili ste da otimate .Necete nikad dibiti samo neka vas davo nosi .

[@Deystroy_Zionists]

Muslims far outnumber Zionists so in a war of attrition it’s only a matter of time before Israel is no more.

[@rumchjoe]

In the 1980's when Egypt made peace with Israel and recognized Israel's right to exist, PLO leader, Yasser Arafat predicted; if Gaza achieved peace and independence then foreign investment would flow and in time Gaza would become the Singapore of the Mediterranean.

[@MattCarvin]

Damn it took over 6 minutes to finally get to the list. Trim back some intro.

[@MrJdsenior]

Easy, win, lose, or give up in disgust. Although, thinking it through, the last two are kind of the same thing. Actually, the Palestinians hated the Israelis before. Now they REALLY, REALLY, REALLY hate them.

[@robaudi20v]

well done sherlock, tell me something i do not know

[@hishamalaker491]

Yeah for no reason right? Like no one is being killed right? Just no reason whatsoever. Just blind hatred, or is there something that is making them hate. Maybe your childs guts being tore open is enough reason for you to hate, no?

[@d.tr6176]

@@hishamalaker491 Who killed who on October 7th? Who tore open children's guts on October 7th?

[@MrJdsenior]

@@robaudi20v OK, Watson, I think I can accommodate that. There is method for determining black hole spin that utilizes the wobble of the disk material remaining after a stellar destruction event. How's that?

[@MrJdsenior]

@@hishamalaker491 How in god's name did you get to that from what I wrote? Did i say anything either way, concerning the reasons? But since you brought up the point, in case you have forgotten, many Palestinians were in the streets literally cheering and laughing over the beheading of Israeli babies, raping of girls, and torture and killing of all of the above, more than a thousand of them. They also are almost constantly decrying Israel's and its people's right to exist. It's not like Palestine didn't absolutely beg for this. They apparently thought that the Israelis would show their typical restraint, or tit for tat....and then they didn't. When nations and peoples hate each other, this is the sort of crap that results. You kinda got be really, really dumb,, though, to go after a nation with the kind of military Israel has with paramotors and hand held weapons, though, as they are finding out right now. Life is hard, it's harder if you are stupid.

[@turtlex5994]

Jared Cushner’s waterfront condo developments could play a major role in Gaza City.

[@arielyitzhakherman1377]

Very interesting brief and idea

[@tonipwneroni9846]

The AI voices devoid of emotion and brevity make these videos really dystopian lol.

[@d.tr6176]

Agreed. I am still not stomaching them after all these months.

[@michaelbernard6096]

I'm not sure about the lol, but you said it! Perfectly!

[@yokivaknin5242]

You forgot to mention that 70% of the population of gaza support hamas. So im Shure that they care deeply about prosperity 😂

[@YOURMUSLIMGUY]

Proof

[@thekneidlachengineer6038]

arab center for research and policy studies

[@Kevin-fq3zh]

@@thekneidlachengineer6038bingo!! you nailed it 👍🏻

[@RTCharles-dq6cb]

mmmm that rings a bell .. reminds me of what Hitler said before invading Poland .. and he was as sure as you are!!

[@thekneidlachengineer6038]

@@RTCharles-dq6cb don't bring the little moustache here. In fact, in the West Bank the support goes all the way to 82%

[@davidweiner2035]

Really enjoyed this video (also enjoyed almost all of your videos) in particular. I think the three state solution is a particularly innovative and rational idea, one that I really haven't heard presented before. I hope you are able to help it gain some traction as it well reasoned and thoughtful. Thanks!

[@bernardsoberg1953]

I had not thought of a Three-State Solution. This idea needs more attention and planning.

[@raiconlan1]

The fishbowl solution and the Swiss cheese solution sounds similar.

[@user-hq9dm6vr6h]

Your view on the solution for those Arabs is far from reality Maybe it will work in a Disney movie

[@Sparta1993]

facing consequences for the acts of October 7th.

[@jonathanviera1589]

So far out of all these options, the three state solutions seems the most plausible and reasonable.

[@AK-sj8ls]

Open up Gaza to emigration. No open air prisons! Let those Gazans who want to leave, leave. Spain, by law must take them in Welcome them in beautiful Europe.

[@diuqsward9067]

no thx👋

[@userMB1]

The possible future for Gaza that you sum up in the last part of the video is an utopia i'm afraid. A bright future begins with bright leader coming from a bright society. That is not the case in Palestine or Israel. Both countries are ruled by animosity. None of the horror we witness now would happen if leaders in charge wanted actual constructive, ever lasting policy, let alone peace.

[@d.tr6176]

Sorry, dearie, but Israel IS a bright society.

[@userMB1]

@@d.tr6176 oh dear. 75% of the Israeli population supports the genocide on Gaza. Plus we see videos of these 'bright' citizens and soldiers on a daily basis doing and saying 'bright' things. The mask of civilization Israel had put on for decades so the white guilt ridden countries can safely support Nazisrael has fallen off.

[@egg174]

It might not ever end...

[@Burrburrcloud]

The chosen ones will be gone from that area.

[@De1n1ol]

@@Burrburrcloud or the palestinians😉

[@d.tr6176]

@@Burrburrcloud No, they won't. The chosen ones have common sense on their side. All "Palestinians" have is negativity. Negativity does not pay.

[@Burrburrcloud]

@@d.tr6176 So the people chosen ones are chopping into pieces should be positive about their extermination?....Ok Got It.Thanks☺

[@Burrburrcloud]

@@d.tr6176 But who has been exiled from every country they have ever lived in?🤔... It's not Palestinians...

[@esquared5064]

This was excellent! I learned a lot.

[@joshpatt8341]

You explain something that almost everyone choses to Ignore - two geographically seperate areas do not work as a single country. We saw this with Pakistan and Bangladesh, why do people think it can work with Gaza? If the people of Gaza start thinking about Gaza instead of dreaming about replacing Israel with Palestine, then there might be a chance for a future for Gaza.

[@user-zh8kv9jb3o]

Well they cant bring stuff in thru tunnel to Egypt..

[@noahstevens3060]

That hasn't stopped.

[@eduwino151]

@@noahstevens3060 israel already controls the rafah border

[@mohamedabdukadir3271]

The tunnels are deep to overcome that challenge

[@Ruder6163]

It’s never going to stop. they may put a dent in it, maybe a big dent. Overall the smuggling will continue.

[@kings2147]

They make their own weapons from Idf bits and pieces leftover. There is no need to smuggle.

[@looseycanon]

I literally made a comment like this on another video about the issue, fearing repeat of split of India in the case of a Palestinian state

[@luennganau8038]

Goliath unable to catch the mouse and demand a ceasefire.

[@blancarosabeltranvelazquez4176]

Thanks!. ❤

[@DanielLLevy]

During the first intifada in the early Nineties, I was working with cut-flowers producers in the Sderot area of the so-called Israeli Gaza envelope. They had to get rid of their Gazan employees as these had become way too stabby to be kept working, and there had been attempts to replace them with willing Jewish new immigrants. Neither the Ethiopian born-and-bred farmers, nor the Russians with a PhD in Marxist Economy, were able to acquire the skills necessary to pick roses in these pink greenhouses, and the Gazans were sorely missed. The strongest resource of an eventual independent, peaceful and business-oriented Gaza is indeed these people's noted work ethics. Reconstruction will have to be financed with aid, but they'll do it very quickly and very well, after which they'll get quite prosperous doing what they do best, working! They'll probably need a new and less murderous religion to achieve that though...

[@rogerjohnson2562]

"probably need a new and less murderous religion" ...so... goes into the 'dream' solution bin.

[@janovmi2]

removed comment as always

[@MrJdsenior]

Your comment is still here.

[@vf7834]

My peace plan: 1. Israel leaves all the Palestinian territories and gives back all the land to the 1967 borders. 2. Israel and the United States pay for reconstruction of the Palestinian territories. 3. Install an international peacekeeping Force on all borders with Israel. 4. Let the Palestinian people figure out the rest, they are a very intelligent people.

[@jasporflex1976]

They need to be given proper education first. Without that, they'll continue to read mein Kampf and wish to conquer Israel from the river to the sea. One of the reasons why UNRWA should be disbanded is because they have allowed this level of antisemitic teaching in their classrooms.

[@jasporflex1976]

They need to be given proper education first. Without that, they'll continue to read mein Kampf and wish to conquer Israel from the river to the sea. One of the reasons why UNRWA should be disbanded is because they have allowed this level of antisemitic teaching in their classrooms.

[@d.tr6176]

So all prizes and benefits for the "Palestinians" who caused the crisis? if they are intelligent, as you say, how is it that with all those decades of free money, they still amount to nothing?

[@DavidHalko]

A pretty good video, some of it was too negative, but at least the 3 reasonable solutions were covered.

[@reza310]

So your best solution is definition of apartheid?!

[@KippiExplainsStuff]

please elaborate

[@crftersp5049]

​@@KippiExplainsStuffApartheid is a system of institutionalized racial segregation and discrimination between two races under a single sovereignty. Given the indefinite occupation of the West Bank, Gaza, and East Jerusalem, this situation aligns with the definition of apartheid. Notably, Israel aims to annex the West Bank without granting its residents equal rights. In Israel, the hierarchy of rights is structured with Jews having the most rights, followed by Arab Israelis, followed by residents of East Jerusalem, followed by inhabitants of the West Bank, and finally, those in Gaza.

[@mrichgol4288]

Why is that a problem? So let's have the Arab nations allow everyone of any type in and see if it will even pass. They are non democracy.

[@ignoranceisachoice6045]

@@crftersp5049 All palestinians who have received citizenship have full rights. Those who don't have refused to apply for it. (it is a 50% acceptance rate). Those without it don't have citizenship rights (like all other countries in the world). This is nothing close to Apartheid.

[@crftersp5049]

@@ignoranceisachoice6045 false ,In theory (under the law), it is different from reality. google :human rights watch - Israel: Discriminatory Land Policies Hem in Palestinians. this only one example from many

[@dimasterin7439]

how is the latter idea different from 2005? israel will stay to occupy until gaza will behave?

[@jasporflex1976]

There won't be Israeli civilians living in settlements in Gaza.

[@user-yt9pq9rm9j]

THATS. RIGHT. AND. A. GOOD. IDEA. ---------NOW. THEY. WILL. KNOW. WHO. ARE. THEY. CHOOSING. TO. LEAD. THEM. ----😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢

[@dave23720]

it might not be any better but it for sure is better than living in a fake feeling of safety and then being massacared one saturday morning in your home..

[@ericalynn3353]

The question of Palestine stands as one of the most enduring and contentious issues of the 21st century, stretching back to the 1940s and continuing to wreak havoc, displacing millions and claiming countless lives today. The land of Israel-Palestine historically has been embroiled in conflict, owing much of its turmoil to Jerusalem-a focal point for all Abrahamic religions. However, it was only relatively recently that the debate of Israel versus Palestine catapulted into global consciousness. Prior to World War II, Palestine, under loose British control, boasted a diverse population steeped in Abrahamic belief, primarily Muslim thanks to previous Ottoman control. The seeds of Israel were not sown until the 1910s with the Balfour Declaration in Great Britain. Britain sought a solution to what they described as the "Jewish problem," simultaneously sparking the rise of early Zionism within European Jewish communities. This confluence of anti-Semitism and Zionism facilitated large waves of migration to Palestine, a trend that only exploded during and after World War II. This trend, however, was vehemently opposed by the local Christians and Muslims who constituted 90% of the population. They perceived the mass migration and the transfer of land as a blatant disregard for their presence, emblematic of Western arrogance. Thus, persistent conflict between Israel and Palestine can be traced to this "original sin" and the profound failure of British diplomacy in the Arab world. Nevertheless, Israel's geopolitical significance has transcended its origins as a British miscalculation, evident by the fact that practically every nation in the world has seemingly taken a side. Perhaps most notable is the United States' stance as a strong ally of Israel, funneling a grand total of $3 billion annually into the country-99.7% of which is dedicated solely to its military. Additionally, Washington also provides large-scale political support to Israel, having used its United Nations Security Council veto power 42 times against resolutions condemning Israel, out of a total 83 times in which its veto has ever been used. This seemingly one-sided alliance is not a mistake. The position of Israel near martial hot spots such as Afghanistan, Iraq, and Iran makes it an extremely strategic ally to Western powers. The billions of dollars' worth in foreign aid to its military also makes sense when considering the fact that Israel has essentially evolved into a de facto emergency American military outpost with the amount of aid it receives growing each year. Many Israeli politicians have actually spoken out against American aid, saying that Israel no longer needs it and that the relationship is harmful to the sovereignty of Israel as a nation. Since its establishment in 1948, Israel has forcibly annexed more than four million acres of Palestinian land and systematically destroyed over 530 Palestinian communities, resulting in mass displacement and loss of life. This destabilization paved the way for the emergence of Hamas, a terrorist group committed to reclaiming Palestine through violent means. On October 7, 2023, Hamas launched a coordinated assault claiming the lives of 1,139 individuals, including 695 civilians. In retaliation, Israel declared a state of war and launched a full-scale invasion of the Gaza Strip. While Israel justifies its actions as self-defense, the ferocity and scope of the invasion have elicited international condemnation from bodies such as the United Nations and Amnesty International. More than 30,000 Palestinians have died since the commencement of the operation, including 11,000 children and 7,000 women. Israel's bombardment has ravaged one-half of Gaza's homes and cultural landmarks, exacerbating an already dire humanitarian crisis. Additionally, Israel told civilians to flee to southern Gaza, but has since dropped bombs on regions they declared "safe." Family trees have been dismembered or obliterated within Gaza; however, the media consistently presents a false dichotomy of the situation. It is not Israel vs. Palestine; it is actually Western influence versus international cooperation. The conflict within today's Israel-Palestine is one that could have been solved decades ago. In 2013, 70% of Palestinians in the West Bank and 48% of Palestinians in the Gaza Strip, together with 52% of Israelis, supported "an independent Palestinian state together with the state of Israel." Still, today's climate looks much different, with the majority of citizens in Palestine and Israel both opposing a two-state solution. That doesn't mean that the possibility of a two-state solution doesn't stand; the only real bodies opposing peace in this fashion are the United States, Israel's far right, and Hamas. With UN support, it is possible to stop the pouring of gasoline on this international fire to ultimately find peace. .

[@paulgoodridge2269]

Is this the modern day equivalent of a dehousing campaign? If so, that is One of the most brilliant strategies I've seen in this conflict. A conflict that only one of the two factions can exist in the region.

[@davidfowler8207]

Democracy Is Here to Stay,The Rest Of The Free World Needs To Stand United!!

[@ericdanielski4802]

Interesting video.

[@moutazelias7246]

Its funny, you say it will be an apartheid state swiss cheese, but back in the video about west bank, you were like oh nooo isreal is not being an apartheid state. biased at best.

[@claudiaxander]

An impromptu tennis tournament at a particular hotel in Qatar... everyone has an extended lie in, except for the competitors who fly out of the country early.

[@Kagehime-4]

I always believed in a 3-state solution, but everytime I mentioned it everyone looked at me like I'm crazy, I feel so vidicated

[@yavgani]

Why stop at only 3... Don't you think the Palestinians are treated too sympathetically?

[@NoamTheGOAT50]

You know, about the Eurovision Song Contest, the only reason Eden Golan finished 5th, is because the "judges" from most countries gave her very low points and no points, the crowd at home got us 2nd place. That means most Europeans support us. עם ישראל חי!

[@tayy5683]

So Supporting a song by an Israeli artist is the same as Supporting genocide?

[@wollkann]

It is not that many Europeans support you it is because first time this year ppl from outside of Europe were allowed to vote. Which person who has brain and heart would support current acts of Israel? To be honest I was quite sympathetic towards Israel but it is all gone.

[@Nitzanbenari]

@@wollkann I think everyone forgot it's a song contest. I have a crazy idea - vote for the best song that you liked the most as a song, regardless of what country it originates from... Jesus christ...

[@wollkann]

@@Nitzanbenari that was the response to the person who related the song contest to the support for Israel. You should reply to her/him at first place who connected those two dots!

[@kfireven]

​@@wollkann Gazans got what they voted for, we don't need your so called sympathies

[@user-dv2cg5or4h]

Boy: you talk a big talk. Fkn go there if you want us to listen.

[@viktoriaherzberg9519]

Awesome material 👍👍

[@aloysiuscrake7678]

Israel will never leave Gaza this time. They have moved in, to stay for good. 👍🏿😂

[@dua85]

I'm a Jewish right wing person. Further to the right than Likud party and I tell you that this is very very unlikely in the long term. Israel is not interested in occupying Gaza indefinitely. It's just that does not have any other realistic options than to manage the conflict in the meantime. So, if in 30 years there's a moderate gazan population (starting with education reforms right now) and develops a peaceful moderate ruling class there will be peace. If not, we will not have the choice but to continue to controlling them another 75 years. We can also manage to do it... It's up to them.

[@arturferrao7353]

That's what the german nazis had said.

[@Italiaasher]

​@@dua85Israel is committing Ethnic Cleansing, they are attempting to push the Palestinian civilians into the Sinai Desert, and if they are successful in doing that, those people will never be allowed to return to Gaza.

[@WouterMetEenG]

We can speculate all we want, but if neither sides are actually interested in peace there will be no solution

[@rogerjohnson2562]

Only one side not interested in peace is enough; only Gazans don't want peace.

[@jameshiggins-thomas9617]

Good for all these leaders to lament the lack of an exit plan, but can you point to the last time there was an exit plan? More to the point, a plan that worked?

[@michel9372]

The Swiss cheese solution would create a situation of apartheid? What are you talking about??? Since when does the notion of apartheid apply to refugees in refugee camps? Should Palestinians abandon their refugee status, you could pull the word apartheid out of the controversy drawer but, until that happens, you're slightly off context. By a mile or two. The same is true of economic development, which is totally foreign to the reality of a refugee camp.

[@paulwalker5221]

You forgot to mention the recently found gas and oil reserves found off the Gazan coast, another reason why israel might want to hold onto Gaza?

[@nanfad]

Just like the vast mineral reserves in Afghanistan that were discovered during the Soviet occupation the gas deposits off the coast of Gaza are pretty much worthless at this point since there is no stability . Besides that offshore gas needs no land ties to be extracted. There are mobile oil derricks that could do the job without any intervention from Gaza If they wanted to steal the gas.

[@user-jk3gy8vo3m]

Even If it was a large and profitable gas source, you have any idea how expensive it is to maintain military control of such an area and also the civilian administration?

[@ekming751]

Have a UN peacekeeper force to be the administrator of the whole Gaza, then have something like the marshal plan to rebuild the country.

[@maessof91]

Will my comment stay up this time?, is this one not too critical?

[@greggconnolly7299]

You need to read some history, you say they were going to export food then you say they need to import food, which is it

[@michenorman7347]

Its actually both, they export agricultural produce to Israel and receive massive amounts of food through UNWRA 0 they are all "refugees" from a war that happened 80 years ago,

[@k.amalan7405]

It is not easy but possible given Time as the tunnels have hidden entrances and Exits.

[@BBBrasil]

Egypt has a minimum wage of 100 USD per month. Mid-high ranking officers earn about 500 USD. Easily corrupted. The armed people of Hamas is but a fraction of what Hamas really is. Hamas 5 most rich families have multi-million dollar businesses and net worth about 5B USD. Combine the two, and the lack of military intelligence and technology, how do you expect Egypt to fight against rebuilding those Philadelphi tunnels?

[@barryshaw5660]

Lucifer has a new trick, invisible horns and tail.

[@midodaepicgamer3446]

My God you left out alot of important info like illegal settlements in the west bank

[@crftersp5049]

as Palestinian your solution is delusional lol

[@IdrisFashan]

There are so many broad assumptions here, and it ‘forgets’ a lot of how Hamas ‘takeover’ really happened. This reads like a high school paper for entry to a diplomacy institution. The moderate movements among Palestinians were literally assassinated out of existence by the IDF under the blessing of the Israeli government. This is a really under developed Eurocentric theory! 😅

[@clintcumberland1664]

So what would your solution be 🤔

[@WriteInAaronBushnell]

​@@clintcumberland1664I think a single Bosnian style Republic is the only real solution; where two sub national govts growl at each other but act as a single national unit

[@crftersp5049]

​@@clintcumberland1664 My solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict includes two viable options for future generations: A Secular Confederation: This would consist of both peoples with equal representation in a shared parliament, regardless of population size. Two States on the 1967 Borders: This would involve joint governance over Jerusalem. However, these solutions face significant challenges. Israel is unlikely to agree to either option due to its Zionist ideology and the power it currently holds. Additionally, Islamist elements within Palestine also pose obstacles. Nonetheless, I believe the Zionist stance is the more significant barrier to peace, given Israel's dominance in the region.

[@ronkoren9171]

As an israeli I can tell you this solution is 100% impossible. Not just because itll be a suicide on our part, and we like being alive, and were not idiots, but because if any government was to even suggest it will cause a civil war in israel. Going back to 67 is not a viable option and never will be even if the entire world condemn us for it. I think the world does you a disservice by pushing forward an impossible solution instead of trying to help you assimilate in one of the other arab countries. P.S. im not even a radical right winger, I just know how to analyze the climate were living in.

[@jonathanrichter4256]

Netanyahu can certainly find plenty of Palestinians who don't want to destroy Israel. The question is, if one of them takes office, what is their projected lifespan at that point? I doubt that person lives for more than a year after taking office, and that's wildly optimistic. That's how Arabs do business.

[@LatinScribe1]

Excellent thinking… I like the plan.

[@user-kr8mi1kg3d]

Love the new landscape ❤

[@Gamla123]

This is the only rational analysis I've heard on the subject.

[@garydavis8213]

“For all of this [ independent, successful, peaceful, prosperous Gaza ] to exist, Hamas has to go away.” You just re-identified the problem.

[@d.tr6176]

That's not enough. "Palestinians" have to stop living in the past and nourishing their old rancors. Not happening, I'm afraid.

[@EmreDemirkayaLoves]

#4 Stop Sending Money and Weapons Let it take it course

[@sherlockwho5714]

A plan that defuses all the hatred they have created. But then again Israel nationalists would prefer that every Palestinian just leave so they can take the land. As for the settlements ask those in the West Bank who are regularly attacked by said settlers.

[@asd4asdas34dasasdas3dsad]

The last option is not an option, like 70% of the population of Gaza is refugees from what is now Israel. A lot of have close relatives in west bank, and both see themselves as the same state. A lot of actions Hamas make is due to actions Israel make in the west bank. Sounds crazy, but they should build an undergroundtunnel connecting Gaza to the west bank, remove the water and air restrictions. Remove all settlers from the west bank.

[@d.tr6176]

Yep, sounds crazy.

[@19Szabolcs91]

I don't thunk it's realistic that Israel will accept removing settlers. The best chance would be some land swaps... maybe compensated on the Gazan side to ease the overcrowding problem and let the cities physically expand. These are just ideas, and no solution will be perfect, but any solution is better that the status quo.

[@jiali335]

Israel needs to do everything in its considerable power to protect women and children in gaza

[@jonathanrichter4256]

Sorry, but simply invading Rafah will not mean that Gaza is completely destroyed. The surface may have been destroyed, but there are another entire cities underneath Gaza, from end to end. The IDF has found and destroyed some tunnels, but there are certainly many more that they know nothing about. Unless Hamas surrenders, the IDF is going to keep going until it finds every tunnel is destroyed, and every terrorist dead or in custody. To make a WW2 analogy, is Hamas going to be like the Germans, whose troops surrendered when they knew they were beaten, or like the Japanese, who fought to last man on every island in the Pacific? It's up to Hamas, not the IDF. They started this.

[@begforrit7731]

I seen a piece recently about Israeli real estate agents offering beach front plots of land for sale. When confronted they said it was "Just a joke!" Some joke huh? Is this what it has come to?

[@kings2147]

Money are never a joke to them, its theirs souls.

[@dunnoewatzgood]

there was a real estate conference in canada offering palestinian land

[@d.tr6176]

@@kings2147 So you have contempt for money? Where does it take you? What does that contempt make of you? It makes you beggars to the international community.

[@d.tr6176]

@@dunnoewatzgood I don't think so.

[@dunnoewatzgood]

@@d.tr6176 yes there was in richmond hill ontario u can search on google it was a big deal

[@Kalahridudex]

Do all 3?

[@vitorpeixoto4794]

I've already thought of 3 option before this video. Gaza could become a full independent country of their own, if conditions are provided (thats the very difficult part). It would be a very small country, but there are smaller working very well. For instance, Malta is smaller than Gaza and its fully independent country and even a full member state of EU.

[@caesarngugi8911]

The answer is simple, but due to greed and hate, most people do not even want to consider it. Why not take a page from South Africa and to a small extent America and Canada. Instead of having multiple states based on ethnicity or religion, why not have one homogeneous state where everyone one has equal rights, irrespective of their cultural or religious backgrounds. This solution will solve both the war and prejudice between the two decendants of Abraham. Come to think of it, both "true" Israelis and Palestinians come from the same genealogical branch.

[@FarberBob678]

National plays a huge role on both sides of this conflict, and you can't just wish that away. Plus the mutual distrust would make such a state chaotic if not on the verge of civil war.

[@caesarngugi8911]

@raffiklausner5016 Whilst I may agree with you, considering the players at the moment, I'd beg to differ that status quo cannot change. If you'd asked a black South African if they'd ever attain equality after the Sharpeville massacre, they'd have thought you were delusional, but less than 40 years later the Rainbow 🌈 nation was born. Let's also not forget that prior to the British involvement (after dismantling the Ottoman Empire) both Jews and Palestinians lived in harmony, despite their religious differences. In fact if you closely read both the Quran and the Torrah, you'd find that Islam is more similar to Jewism than Christianity. It's always impossible until it's done

[@tonicalloway7227]

Where's the hostages?..

[@saagisharon8595]

they might be in egypt

[@calvinchew7985]

Of course IDF can retreat from humiliating defeats just like the Americans retreat from Afghanistan and Vietnam wars etc... duh...just takes a lot of political will

[@MrWhitmen1981]

Doubt it, they can forcefully remove the Gazans to the West Bank.

[@n4049]

Afghanistan and Vietnam do not share a border with America! America is a huge state, with over 300 million Americans. Absolutely no comparison to the tiny Israel, surrounded by hostile Muslim nation.

[@Nitzanbenari]

What the entire West including this show refuses to understand is that Hamas IS the Gazan population and the Gazan population is Hamas. The Gazans have had an 18-year long opprotunity to make Gaza into one of the most thriving places in the world, and time and time and time again they blew it (pun very much intended). Oct 7th was the final straw and the day Gazans have lost themselves the right to be treated like adults.

[@d.tr6176]

Agreed. And the billions the international community has paid to (in principle) make "Pa«lestine" decent has gone into the realization of a dream of murder. So why do Western countries continue to pay? Why do they remain in the UN?

[@ibnlahad2982]

Could gaza bulid a airport and seaport without israel permission manage their airspace coast and borders without israel interference Gaza was blockaded for 16 years who do you think your fooling

[@Nitzanbenari]

@@ibnlahad2982 I noticed you said 16 years, good for you, so you acknowledge its only after Hamas took over. Yeah, you fire rockets at someone and have a section in your official charter declaring your goal is their complete destruction, they're gonna start checking your bag... and even after and all during Hamas' rule, there was pretty much an open border with Egypt, every day tens of trucks filled with goods would go in and out between Gaza and Israel (there was actually a lot of trade between the two), thousands of Gazans would cross into Israel with work visas. What was funny/sad was that I personally heard from soldiers that came back from there and actually saw the houses that they were shocked to see how high the quality of life there. One said "I couldn't believe it. They lack nothing, they just really really hate us.".

[@astbast1966]

Every politician and Analyst are talking fairytail BUT visualpolitik has the perfekt View. HAHAJAHHAHAHAAH

[@user-rw2gu2ko3s]

IDf must search everty vehicle to prevent smugle small weapons to the civilian in the north they were militant too

[@55rz55]

Zios and hasbara have been ramping up in the yt comments lately.

[@jack0wack0]

relocate gaza to westbank..

[@Lana97023]

Gaza ostaje Palestincima tu gdje i jest .Neka vas ne interesuje .

[@josephhesse2634]

Yoo, what’s going on with Fatah, why have we been real quiet regarding them lately????

[@annerfrancis]

Palestine never existed!? I remind you that Golda Meir stated that she was a Palestinian and carried a Palestinian passport! ca.570 "Syria Palaestina"along with Persia and Egypt adopted Islam and Arabic rule. In 135 the Romans suppressed a Jewish revolt and drove the jewish survivors into exilee. Rome then named the province Syria Palaestina. In 1187 Saladin, sultan of Egypt, conquers Jerusalem and except for a 15 year period, Muslims control Palestine until the end of WWI. Ottoman Turks in 1516 take Syria, Palestine and then Syria.

[@user-tv4lz5ie5u]

"Adopted Islam and Arabic rule" LOL Are you serious?? Either they "adopted" it... Or else! 🗡️

[@mohamedajaj1234]

My comment is a Quotes from Arabic poetry: If the people wanted life Fate must respond The night must end The chain has to be broken, Who doesn't like climbing mountains Will lives forever among the holes 🙂

[@chuckmarius323]

iirc last time they held a referendum, over 90% of them said they were syrians and were part of syria so... just give the territories to syria, let them worry about it.

[@jimmyhyun8546]

Why is it Syria's responsibility to take millions of refugees?

[@dairebulson7122]

You mean the Golan Heights? That's a different territory, and Israel is not only unwilling to part with it, they have openly annexed it outright