THE TIER LIST FOR LADDER SMASH

We sat down to make a whole tier list of how well Smash Ultimate characters perform on this specific custom stage. This was the goal for reaching 200 memberships, thank you all for the support!
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[@BeefySmashDoods]

We tried to keep this as short as possible but tierlists in smash ultimate just take forever

[@ligumaballsu3724]

"We tried to keep this as short as possible" The video: 33 minutes

[@sangkim6556]

Isn’t sephiroth a multi jump character because of his one wing

[@akapanda5962]

If you fast fall with characters like piranha plant, k.rool etc you can grab the ladder faster instead of barely grabbing the ladder

[@TechnoTheHedgehog]

You guys forgot Matt, sans, and Rex, Matt in particular is my main

[@braree0813]

There is a way to get blocks, by mining down air if you place it on a block

[@WAZXIII]

Nintendo's next patch: Made several characters grab ladders faster after using recovery.

[@mr.thekid3827]

Everyone Else: What? That's useless, why would we need that change? BSD: THIS HAS COMPLETELY SHIFTED THE META

[@schway6108]

@@mr.thekid3827 lol

[@snowiechy6887]

Its not a patch it will be an update

[@schnibist]

nintendo is the publisher, dummy

[@SimpIeton1]

Finally. The most important tier list.

[@fredbillenpret6164]

Finally. The most useless tier list

[@leofont6026]

Especially since mega man is number 1

[@esqimo6647]

During Lucinas section: “All swordfighters are really good” Chrom: i agree

[@Insaniot]

Ike: True dat

[@menghuahu141]

Roy: dats true

[@menghuahu141]

Roy: Then why am I in b tier

[@GekTC]

_"GEE PIKACHU, how come Nintendo lets you be top tier in 2 ways of playing Smash?!"_ _"pika."_

[@morphagohma]

"Megaman's Dair single handedly makes him the best character" ...Not sure if that was intended... Laughed anyway.

[@foxbear60]

Aaayyy! Nice catch! This comment deserves more love!

[@Hikaru_SR-Omega]

How did I not notice this?! I always notice unintentional puns. I guess Mega Man will always have the _upper hand_ in Ladder Smash. ᕙ(°~°®> ...Or is it *downer* hand in this case???

[@ArjunRaviFunniestManOnEarth]

took me 30 seconds to realize what this meant...

[@t0xtricity2]

@@ArjunRaviFunniestManOnEarth pls explain

[@Zenithal1843]

@@t0xtricity2 Mega Man’s hand detaches for his down air so he’s left single handed during the animation

[@ubercow6611]

Everyone laughed off latter attacks when they were introduced, but here we are

[@jayboni541]

i, for one, didn't, and went straight to optimizing its meta

[@YounesLayachi]

The fact olimar without pikmins is better than mien mien is hilarious

[@BeefySmashDoods]

Well not quite^^ He does have one pretty good stock, and that makes the difference :p

[@YounesLayachi]

@@BeefySmashDoods

[@yowoody1868]

Its min min

[@YounesLayachi]

@@yowoody1868 ask the creators of the arms game they will say mien mien

[@yowoody1868]

Bro... it literally says Min min in both smash brothers and ARMS.

[@collinVG]

I would LOVE to see more ladder smash stages with ladders being put in different places to allow different options for attacking and recovering This being a side tourney at a supermajor would be insane

[@presion5628]

Can you make the ladder spin?

[@noathern]

@@presion5628 it'd push you off as you go onto the side I've tried this before

[@XenoPlayed]

Kinda funny how the number one character climbs ladders regularly in his own games. He was made for ladders, and had a lot of training material x)

[@AlviKinROX]

insert Elec Man joke here

[@papaG6423]

Crash Man would like to know your location

[@shattermelon496]

You didn't rank miis, but think about gunner up air

[@yall_might]

It makes me so incredibly happy to see Ganon as a high tier

[@mampfsgradmeter1768]

Finally a tier list where Fox is one of the bad ones

[@julienasriel]

That's sad for him :c

[@cobinasaur]

@Roger Loe We made Joker bad and that's what matters to me.

[@JohnLover1179]

Brawl?

[@shrike_8136]

@@JohnLover1179 fox wasn’t that bad in brawl. He was somewhere in upper mid tier mainly because 3 characters just absolutely hard countered him

[@ShinyMew76]

@@shrike_8136 Also hitstun

[@goomba369]

Finally a tier list where Gannondorf is viable and BROKEN!!!

[@Prompt3D]

Oh hello.

[@goomba369]

@@Prompt3D Hello

[@JohnLover1179]

@@Prompt3D do you prefer the air

[@killjoy6959]

@@JohnLover1179 lollll

[@KorporalKReephdmkiytrecv69]

ladder smash, this seems like the next best thing, I believe you are *up to something*

[@kirbyboi4811]

Yes I agree hahaga

[@vra6586]

Ladder smash tournaments confirmed?

[@mem9959]

Here before this is the top comment

[@adri-nw6pw]

I agree

[@alexhasko6230]

Wow haha funny joke haha lol I laughed so much lol

[@ShayTheValiant]

I find it interesting that they call Piranha Plant a female. I was confused at first because Sakurai referred to Plant as a male in the presentation, but I looked it up and found out that the German word for plant is a female noun, so that's why they call him a her. Then again, plants in real life are both male and female at the same time, so who really knows.

[@determinedhelicopter2948]

Well depends on the plant, some plants have sexes others don't

[@silikerYT]

Crazy to think that the random gamemode I came up with now has a tier list. So when is there gonna be a major? Btw Mii Swordfighter dummy broken and you have done everyone a disservice by not talking about him

[@0JavierXD]

Mii gunner also seems really good. Their up air is super disjointed and strong. Their dair is not that good but both the kick and the projectile up bs (I don't know their english names) can give good coverage below them on top of being decent recoveries #DontForgetMii

[@doenerman00]

Yo how do you make the spawning platforms drop?

[@silikerYT]

@@doenerman00 theres a setting to make it get affected by gravity, then just set it so that it doesn't respawn

[@leitakcoc]

You guys didn’t even mention lucas’ down air. That thing looks like it would be ridiculous in this mode.

[@Edgeperor]

True

[@leofont6026]

You can jump around him on the ladder. The reason why hydrant or hard knuckle is broken is because they have such big range, and knuckle doesn't have a ton of end-lag

[@leitakcoc]

@@leofont6026 that’s fair, but can’t you predict them jumping around and climb up while doing the d-air?

[@dylanmoore9047]

this is the highest i'll ever see dr mario places on a tier list and it hurts

[@drewdonewell2568]

He'd actually be pretty good on a "who has the worst recover" tier list 😃

[@nucleartree8159]

Melee Dr Mario was decent right

[@dylanmoore9047]

@@nucleartree8159 true, but I meant in ultimate

[@ABC-ik9vj]

Dr mario is actually op, I don't think he needs buffs

[@MrChompenrage]

He would get my vote as top-tier for the coolest back throw.

[@dj_senf6741]

Everything you guys upload really feels like high quality. Thanks for the effort ✌🏼

[@shadowbat2095]

Ooh, I’ve been waiting for this! Let’s go.

[@leonardmartin397]

Talking about pit and dark pit is spike is pretty good Me: please don’t take this out of context

[@phyrball21]

You know, this is an actually really cool concept you guys are very good thinkers for coming up with this!

[@bluarrow4505]

I feel like a good way to make all characters actually playable to an extent is having platforms a little ways away from the ladder that move (up-down, left-right, etc) so that they can’t really be used consistently but can help out characters who suffer from this gamemode (material characters, characters who can’t grab ledge because of the way their up b works, etc)

[@harshadhdhandayudhapani1762]

Shulk is pretty good on the ladder. He has crazy range on his air attacks and can use his manado arts on the air really helping his strength and recovery.

[@Shaeffen_]

27:49 You can tell cFive edited this because he cut out that part where he got rested by vyq.

[@neferlow1202]

Title : THE TIER LIST FOR LADDER SAMSH ! Mii fighters : *Am I a joke to you ?*

[@xNaxdy]

7:45 the worst thing about steve is that there is no place for his crafting table to land, which means it will constantly respawn, which means it will constantly drain your resources. since you respawn with 3 iron always you basically have to down air immediately if you want to use them, otherwise the crafting table will just eat them up one by one.

[@thunderstar7682]

That's really bad A miracle he got in teir two

[@xNaxdy]

@@thunderstar7682 yeah his only saving grace is that his up air is pretty decent even without tools and that he has a very good recovery. apart from that he is NOT made for this mode lmao

[@jenniferjimenez3235]

17:43 idk why but I laughed so loud and my parents were sleeping

[@ianstadtlander9736]

the content noone asked for but now that they know about it they absolutely need it

[@migo1559]

I absolutely love that pacman always ranks high in these kinds of gimmicky tiers

[@kobotics227]

you guys do know that steve can mine off his TNT and down air right? just place a block, drop a TNT or anvil and bam... you can get back your materials!

[@willmaster1920]

Lmao they said that

[@kobotics227]

​@@willmaster1920 they still stev was pretty low tho

[@matheusvasiliauskassoares4361]

He's a climbing robot MEGAMAN

[@antoniofernandez7324]

15:05 VyQ’s face there after he spiked cFive was pretty funny

[@hamslider3055]

yes.

[@underdog6536]

(cries in mii player)

[@Siennarchist]

Would love to see this for other stuff such as smashketball and volleyball

[@YounesLayachi]

Bayo's pose on the ladder 🤣🤣🤣

[@slimballs9650]

I mean it's Bayo. What do you expect?

[@lucasskotiniotis1360]

man this looks fun af

[@andymcclurg9916]

These ladder climb animations are really excellent, I'm glad I could see them

[@JacobPDeIiNoNi]

I mean almost all animations in this game are excellent, but true and I agree

[@Dijonaise]

The beef bois are back!

[@hyper_blade1477]

Steve rising up a ladder while face pressing on it is a good touch from Minecraft lmao

[@nextos]

didn't know this existed. but this looks cool af

[@mateorodriguez2300]

Incineroar discord actually had an entire tournament revolving around practicing and then competing in this gamemode. Dedede was almost banned because of extremely good he is at controlling the entire ladder, especially with a canceled up b. Belmonts were deemed glass cannons. We eventually switched to a 2 ladder system with 2 stages being options with the ladders at different distances apart.

[@contestforcolonization4947]

What if you build with Steve and place a tnt to mine

[@contestforcolonization4947]

@Mystic Shadow well iron lasts much longer, so you’ll be able to mine more

[@contestforcolonization4947]

@Mystic Shadow I meant place tnt on the iron block and mine that

[@galxeviv9576]

I love how the ladder smash teir list is so different then the normal competitive one

[@sassageflair257]

I’d love to see ladder smash as a side event at a big tournament

[@okkebookelmann622]

Finally a tier list where Falco the best spacey is

[@plant_kirb3875]

Its nice to see heavyweights this high on a tierlist

[@galaxystealth7652]

The rest i kinda saw, but I totally didn't think about how good Mega Man is

[@veryepicnoodles3107]

Now this is epic

[@falcon219]

Tier list are the most complex things to do for me, but in smash, that’s hard

[@Windowmeiker]

"And that concludes our complete tier list" *doesn't include miis*

[@Skatebros]

Geeez, Little Mac STILL couldn’t climb to the top... smh

[@fazenoobyoutube]

Literally...

[@erikg5458]

He'll never do it

[@tiffyw92]

"You ain't no ladder fighter either, Mac."

[@nevohyams]

wow my two mains are the two best characters in this mode! can't say i saw that coming 😁

[@paltryshelf816]

Little Mac: alright imma head out

[@3-Gs]

A tier list to rival all tier lists

[@brandonlee8123]

I must be cool cuz i never hit my rests...

[@shoopydoopy6062]

Never in my life have I heard the word “decent” come out of someone’s mouth this many times 😂

[@lukek1848]

Once in person tournaments come back I think this should be a side event

[@thedukeconiosantiago9180]

steve: you put me weak but i can play near the blast zone with my BLOCKS.

[@thedukeconiosantiago9180]

he can get infinity blocks and stay away for eva .3. using block and quick tnt into grind

[@JRose-712]

Sooo uhhh when's the member's ladder smash tournament? 👀 Lol hoping there is one 😁

[@ashielilystar6134]

alternate title: tier listing every characters recovery

[@rotz394]

Finally, a tier list I can agree with! Because regular Samus is higher than Zero Suit Samus!

[@haslover100]

Finally a tier list that puts pits above palu

[@mm3shadowman982]

Making a prediction, my boy Rockman is good. (Edit, Mega Fam is the best as it turns out.)

[@Jknight416]

23:34 I never knew that Bayo poses like that when she’s on a ladder

[@slimballs9650]

I mean it's Bayo. What do you expect?

[@smash_king7521]

Mega man is broken in ladder smash I’m happy

[@WAZXIII]

Y'all need to try a free for all ladder smash. It'd be total chaos!

[@isaacm6052]

Yes

[@BSLyles]

Honestly i feel like steve could have been a little bit higher because steve can always just create and anvil and gather more iron than he loses but a main issue is his crafting table cost materials when it spawns and because it just falls into the void he is always losing constant materials.

[@NachostheXth]

Having a quarter of the cast with nonfunctional recoveries makes me think of melee haha

[@EX3H0]

11:44 the cross slash goes with the music

[@CaiGuy64]

“Every character” Miis: Am I a joke to you?

[@littlemacisunderrated412]

Not even I can argue that little mac is underrated here

[@XANDERTV123]

mega mains rn: *dominates anyone on this stage*

[@hairyspider151]

Something to note about meta knight that wasn't mentioned is the freefall on his specials.

[@kaimystic1949]

This is the future meta for the game I can see it

[@erikg5458]

No its not :/ its not oficial

[@seannjones]

I’m still tying to figure out what letter they are trying to grab.

[@georgeheld1901]

Now I’m predicting Captain Falcon will be high tier, because his aerials are nasty and he can act out of up b

[@Jeremonkey90]

YESSS KIRBY IS GOOD FINALLY. ITS BEEN SO LONG SINCE 64

[@TheNoteworthyDanny]

I’m gonna do what’s called a Pro Penguin Move.

[@TwinbeeMint]

I think I'm feeling deja vu and i already see this video somehow i Don't know that's weird

[@YounesLayachi]

I just noticed the crafting table keeps falling and respawning and using up your blocks idly !

[@skiboutins]

I figured you would not cover the Miis, but I’ll tell you, Mii Brawler is definitely worth exploring. Feint Jump is like a huge flip kick, and while it has more lag it lets you camp and recover safely from distances most characters cannot. Soaring Axe Kick is just a bigger, deadlier, and farther reaching Climhazzard, so you can probably kill anyone forced to grab the ladder at any percent, as it kills at 0 most of the time. Thrupper does not go far but does have a big hit box. Flashing Mach Punch stalls so it could be useful, maybe, as the other two are useless in ladder. For side b, I think Burning Drop Kick would be the best, as it goes very far, can be used multiple times, and does good damage. Suplex could also be good for suicide kills though if you prefer. So yeah, a 2212 mii would be insanely busted for this.

[@fynn8989]

Finally, Marth is fine on a list

[@ahmadkazan217]

I can see sonic being higher to be honest,just because he can act out of up B and air dodge to avoid hit boxes and knock people of the ladder and his up air would be toxic good.

[@bije277]

32:37 it looks like they’re being slapped repeatedly by the various mega men.

[@daringiconoclast6547]

Please try Road Warrior Smash. Go to the F-zero level with the blue falcon ship but with hazards off. The road still moves but there's nothing in the way on it. The rules are you can't stand on top of the blue falcon once you leave. Maybe have high percent handicap or higher knockback to encourage ceiling teching. It's quite fun, any character can jump on the road and a few can run on it effectively.

[@ryanknutti3105]

Can't wait to see where Bayo (my main) Turns up on this one Edit: Alright, I guess. I feel like if the Bayo can play well enough, she'd be Top tier for ladder smash. The fact that she has no special lag is a big deal, as that is a lot of what makes her low tier in normal smash (and don't you bayonetta haters blast me for that tier placement). It really just depends on the combos that can be performed with ladder Re-grabs.

[@srihithgangireddygari4010]

Oh wait I didn't actually think about how regrabbing could be a combo extension rather than a combo breaker. Dang that's interesting. Probably the main thing that makes samus and dark samus good as well.

[@parkerrittenhouse6586]

Someone count the amount of times they say "recovery" in this video

[@georgesanchez7472]

7

[@Beeeeevi]

"fox's recovery isnt that good" excuse me *w h a t*

[@darc5925]

I would like to mention that bayo's down air can be cancelled into up b but it takes a while so you can spike your opponent and make it back safely though you probably want to do this in the upper half of the ladder to avoid sd-ing and b reverse the up b to avoid saving your opponent. Interesting note, her up air gives her more momentum to travel farther horizontally.

[@slipknotfya]

I didn't know the up air thing. Is it doing a single or multiple up airs? or held? this could be useful for normal competitive matches

[@darc5925]

@@slipknotfya all can work. though it doesn't affect normal jumps, it definitely helps after using side b or up b w/ no jump left

[@GoldWheels]

My man Meta is getting a spot on the top where he needed to be

[@elliotanderson324]

How is Captain Falcon the fan favorite? When you said that he was against Ridley, the actual 'People's Champ!'

[@johnbucaria6621]

You can also stall in the air with Cloud with his side special and neutral special.

[@angelmendez-rivera351]

This is true, but stalling in the air with a character that struggles to recover is not a virtue.

[@JohnDoe-wl6qe]

We need a Mario party mode with many of the ideas made by players in stage builder, and more modes like the Voleyball Melee mod

[@omarpikm2101]

olimar's forward tilt is probably his strongest attack without pikmin

[@aclonymous]

...that’s a grounded attack. All ladder moves are aerials.

[@TheFatHyena]

Finally. A tier list where Bayo is actually pretty high up-

[@slimballs9650]

Smash 4?

[@TheFatHyena]

@@slimballs9650 1. You're replying to a 2 year old comment, 2. Ultimate tierlist

[@fuzzele6511]

Steve has a tech were you can put anvil on the side of a block and mine there

[@Xx_STRHMN_xX]

“you can’t mine blocks” you can mine tnt on a block, it doesn’t reduce the block health and also gives you the material under that tnt

[@emantv6343]

I thought you was gonna put us on with more smash ladders for online