Why NO ONE Plays: Ridley | Super Smash Bros. Ultimate

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Back with another Why NO ONE Plays episode! Today I wanted to discuss a character who at one point was considered "too big" to be part of the Smash Bros roster but... here he is! Too big and all- for better or worse.
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@tacosunbirth
@tacosunbirth Жыл бұрын
If Ridley was a DLC, he'd weigh as much as Piranha Plant, have the same amount of jumps as Dedede and Plasma Breath would be able to be kept charged
@frozenfresh6406
@frozenfresh6406 Жыл бұрын
That sounds like a fun version of him to play
@Jpeg_skeleton
@Jpeg_skeleton Жыл бұрын
His back air is dlc already (it steals stocks too well what the fuck)
@gastrodonenjoyer999
@gastrodonenjoyer999 Жыл бұрын
And he wouldn’t take 20 percent if he’s tapped on his Mouth while using plasma breath
@zant1566
@zant1566 Жыл бұрын
@@Jpeg_skeleton At a hefty price. Shit doesn't autocancel, has big end-lag, unsafe on hit at low percentages due to how laggy it is, and slow start-up. A lot of Ridley's moves come at a price, except n-air, and arguably f-tilt. Broken afffff
@Jpeg_skeleton
@Jpeg_skeleton Жыл бұрын
@@zant1566 yeah but I would rather that than Corrin back air, which I have seen people recommend and I just think it wouldn't fit. I'm not amazing so I guess I never saw flaws with back air but I would love buffs to it if it has flaws.
@flamingpaper7751
@flamingpaper7751 Жыл бұрын
I feel like the devs held back with Ridley. He's just a couple minor changes from being high tier but instead he's low or mid tier at besy
@echospace7347
@echospace7347 Жыл бұрын
Definitely mid tier his matchups for swordies are insanely good and he has a move that does 70 FUCKING percent off of tech chases or just to catch someone runnin in
@spicymeatballs2thespicening
@spicymeatballs2thespicening Жыл бұрын
I was thinking the exact same thing, it seems like they were scared giving him the range and power he deserves but by the time fighter pass 2 came around they went fuck it and gave it to characters with no downsides
@ohianaw
@ohianaw Жыл бұрын
I want to play a game where Ridley is top tier instead of some corny characters like Aegis, Sonic, Rob, Steve, Min min or even game and watch
@jamesjoe1690
@jamesjoe1690 Жыл бұрын
Besy?
@andimari9194
@andimari9194 Жыл бұрын
@@spicymeatballs2thespicening yeah I don’t mind characters being strong af, but no downsides is so annoying
@BaronSterling
@BaronSterling Жыл бұрын
I feel like it was a MASSIVE missed opportunity choosing to make his down-air that awful stall and fall instead of his iconic downward tail stab.
@leventeacs8606
@leventeacs8606 Жыл бұрын
THANK YOU! I though I was alone with this. He could have a spike thats not a suicide dive and doesnt have the mother of all endlags. The rest of his flaws I can cope with because he is fun as hell but not with that.
@Noponis
@Noponis Жыл бұрын
honestly it could work like sephiroth's forward air and I feel like they either cowarded out or didnt think of it at the time and if he was released now that is what we would have gotten
@orangeslash1667
@orangeslash1667 Жыл бұрын
@@Noponis Ridley is like Charazard in that they have good air game compared to other Heavy weights. Unlike Charazard who is just powerful , Ridley is much smarter and a bit more unpredictable. So the question should be, is Ridley niche compared to Charazard?????
@100organicfreshmemes5
@100organicfreshmemes5 Жыл бұрын
100%, I can't believe they didn't give him that down air. So many characters have a stall and fall and yet they chose not to give him a more unique move. It would be more skill expressive too, could mix up his movement by letting him bounce off the ground, platforms, projectiles or the opponent and would have a sweet spot at the end of his tail that spikes.
@orangeslash1667
@orangeslash1667 Жыл бұрын
@@100organicfreshmemes5 Ridleys down air is a reference to his battle in Metroid prime one.
@vectorricktenson216
@vectorricktenson216 Жыл бұрын
8:19 this interaction made me quit playing Ridley and start maining Vegeta
@hernandeznestor7685
@hernandeznestor7685 Ай бұрын
Cringe
@FenyxFox
@FenyxFox Ай бұрын
@@hernandeznestor7685 Who broke your heart
@IGN_OFFClAL
@IGN_OFFClAL Жыл бұрын
I main Ridley no matter what "Tier" he is. I wanted him, I got him, I play him.
@echospace7347
@echospace7347 Жыл бұрын
He’s mid tier and I love him
@cosmicspacething3474
@cosmicspacething3474 Жыл бұрын
Chad
@sinchill5424
@sinchill5424 Жыл бұрын
This is exactly how I feel about Bowser Jr
@CuackTheDucks
@CuackTheDucks Жыл бұрын
Exactly how I feel maining Ridley: I will never not main him.
@gjergjaurelius9798
@gjergjaurelius9798 Жыл бұрын
Same with me and Mario!
@Nba_Obelisk7459
@Nba_Obelisk7459 Жыл бұрын
I think his simplicity yet brutality makes me love playing and watching him, and tbh I’m just glad he’s in the game and he’s my 2nd most used character
@IsaacPurpleguy
@IsaacPurpleguy Жыл бұрын
Same here. When I first got Ultimate, he was the first character I gravitated to
@3180P5
@3180P5 Жыл бұрын
I main this guy too
@oddtomato1049
@oddtomato1049 Жыл бұрын
The simple brutality of his moveset is a feast of entertainment.
@kainthedragoon8081
@kainthedragoon8081 Жыл бұрын
I main him mainly because how violent and aggressive is moveset makes you
@Jaruan
@Jaruan Жыл бұрын
The thumb nail hurt feelings.
@elmo3766
@elmo3766 Жыл бұрын
On the topic of ridley, I wanted to shoutout Paco, the number 1 player in argentina, doing it all with solo ridley. He also placed 13th at Ultra Hard, the platinum SWT major in brazil Dude's absolutely crazy to watch
@jacobbarton2609
@jacobbarton2609 Жыл бұрын
That’s crazy gotta check him out yo
@TheVanOvanShow
@TheVanOvanShow Жыл бұрын
😲
@DrSwazz
@DrSwazz Жыл бұрын
Appreciate Elmo calling out my Latin American brothers
@DHS222
@DHS222 Жыл бұрын
I secondary ridley and must say, I see the flaws but gosh darn it, he's so fun to play.
@ihopeyouandicanbefriends
@ihopeyouandicanbefriends Жыл бұрын
@Nintendus ridley up tilt is definitely really good. super disjointed and leads into combos with pretty noncommittal frame data. been using it a lot lately and it's kinda cracked at pressuring platforms xd. fellow mewtwo main here!!
@cryguy0000
@cryguy0000 Жыл бұрын
I don't think the critique is a bash against how fun they are. Ridley is fun to play but in a competitive sense he struggles.
@DHS222
@DHS222 Жыл бұрын
@@cryguy0000 I understand that bit yeah
@orangeslash1667
@orangeslash1667 Жыл бұрын
@@cryguy0000 Do most Metroid fans prefer Zero Samus when playing competitive?????
@medinafamily5638
@medinafamily5638 Жыл бұрын
I play as Ridley he’s like my favorite
@squashua_
@squashua_ Жыл бұрын
I've wanted Ridley since I was 9 years old. They revealed him when I was 16. I play almost exclusively Ridley.
@misterfevillord1588
@misterfevillord1588 Жыл бұрын
I feel old reading this... I was 30 on his reveal!
@reniac3128
@reniac3128 Жыл бұрын
Same with me and Steve! Man, smash does make dreams come true
@squashua_
@squashua_ Жыл бұрын
@@misterfevillord1588 man if I’m not playing Smash when I’m 30 then I’ve betrayed myself. Here’s to being the way we are well into retirement
@dj_koen1265
@dj_koen1265 Жыл бұрын
@@squashua_ i was in my 20s when ultimate dropped, kinda lost touch with the game in the past 2 years but it still lives on in my heart
@ekh.123
@ekh.123 Жыл бұрын
I’m actually very curious about this. Ridley is one of those characters that I feel is just buried under a heavy amount of propaganda that he’s “bad” because all the Ridley mains I see kick some serious ass, or they keep sets close at least.
@mrmrpineapple6542
@mrmrpineapple6542 Жыл бұрын
I think it’s mostly because at high level play he’s pretty honest and can’t do anything insane and consistent at low and mid level play he’s really dishonest and I love it
@thebeesknees1162
@thebeesknees1162 Жыл бұрын
If you view him as a "swordie" instead of a "heavy" or sum, he really starts to open up as a character.
@justanormalaccountnothingt1571
@justanormalaccountnothingt1571 Жыл бұрын
@@thebeesknees1162 that Makes so much more sense because I really love playing him but also don’t like playing heavies much (exception being THE heavy bowser)
@minixlemonade2335
@minixlemonade2335 Жыл бұрын
@@mrmrpineapple6542 He's very dishonest at high levels at times.
@spicymeatballs2thespicening
@spicymeatballs2thespicening Жыл бұрын
@@minixlemonade2335 what can he get away with
@Moss_Dude
@Moss_Dude Жыл бұрын
Little Mac is a glass cannon with too much glass, Ridley is a glass cannon without enough cannon.
@orangeslash1667
@orangeslash1667 Жыл бұрын
Nice
@gabrielmauger7608
@gabrielmauger7608 Жыл бұрын
As a ridley main it pleases me to see this. He's undoubtelbly the most often forgotten character in the game imo, and the problem with him is that you can't really get around Ridley's flaws ; if your opponent is good enough to take advantage of them then they will, as you explained with the very accurate concept of linearity. He's an absolute blast to play though
@jacobbarton2609
@jacobbarton2609 Жыл бұрын
Completely agree
@Frilleon
@Frilleon Жыл бұрын
What would you say are the specific flaws that good players can take advantage of?
@cypressmilligan3585
@cypressmilligan3585 Жыл бұрын
As another ridley main I'm just suprised that I saw skewer be called useless
@zacharyalford8185
@zacharyalford8185 Жыл бұрын
​@@Frilleon lighter, linear recovery, disadvantage, oos is what I think of. don't play him too much anymore but I did for a long time
@orangeslash1667
@orangeslash1667 Жыл бұрын
@@cypressmilligan3585 Skewer is very hard to use in a single Match.
@ddx-art9794
@ddx-art9794 Жыл бұрын
As someone who mains ridley since day one release I can tell that this man spits facts.
@Garomasta
@Garomasta Жыл бұрын
Whoo, my main. I use Ridley's much maligned d-air surprisingly often since I have trouble intercepting certain recoveries with other aerials. The hitbox stays out for a long time and you can make it back to the ledge if you use it from a full hop.
@Cheeseisboss
@Cheeseisboss Жыл бұрын
It's good for catching vertical recoveries I totally agree, but that broken shopping cart wheel nair so damn good for gimping
@echospace7347
@echospace7347 Жыл бұрын
If someone knocks you up down airing them to kill of the top when they chase you is the best
@Toasteeei
@Toasteeei Жыл бұрын
I’ve been maining Ridley for around a year and I have only killed with a d-air spike ONCE, and it was on a Sephiroth that always full charged his up-b. I was holding onto ledge he was directly beneath me, full charging his up-b, and I was a stock up so I took my once in a lifetime opportunity to spike (and kill) with ridley d-air and it worked
@orangeslash1667
@orangeslash1667 Жыл бұрын
@@Toasteeei The problem with most down airs that spike is that you have to touch the opponent in order to spike them. This is why Corrin is important, because when he attacks you down air, it will always connect.
@Ryan-uq7kj
@Ryan-uq7kj Жыл бұрын
It's hard to explain this to someone who doesn't play Ridley without getting an "every character has weaknesses" response, but you really broke it all down and articulated it well. Very well covered.
@RaffoPhantom
@RaffoPhantom Жыл бұрын
This video made a bitter old Ridley main smile.
@mac_chappy
@mac_chappy Жыл бұрын
I will also say through patches. Ridley was constantly getting nerf through bug fixes. I swear during the beta of smash ultimate his damage output was way higher. Not to mention if you landed down special you were allowed to combo it into f-smash. People said it was too broken and they got rid of it before letting anybody trying it. Meanwhile Bowser has a lot going for him. But for everybody I think we all can say what bothers us the most about him is his weight.
@TestSubject06
@TestSubject06 Жыл бұрын
I think it's ridiculous that ridley lost skewer -> fsmash, but gnw gets to keep dsmash -> fsmash.
@codyruchian
@codyruchian Жыл бұрын
@@TestSubject06 nah I think it sorta makes sense when you look at the damage output difference. Skewer + f smash would put the opponent above 80% alone, which is horrifying. Though Game & Watch having an easy to access bury attack at any % isn’t exactly fair, so I see your point.
@TestSubject06
@TestSubject06 Жыл бұрын
@@codyruchian 80% is pretty nuts, but at the same time it's as slow as a shieldbreaker style attack.
@100organicfreshmemes5
@100organicfreshmemes5 Жыл бұрын
@@TestSubject06 G&W dsmash -> fsmash is absolute cancer, a shame it didn't get removed too.
@manzenshaaegis8783
@manzenshaaegis8783 Жыл бұрын
and after butchering ridely like that they gave kazuya EWGF 😂
@tacosunbirth
@tacosunbirth Жыл бұрын
As a Ridley main, I think they were afraid to give him the tools he needed. Ridley should weigh more and at least have 4 jumps, if they really don't want to give him 6 jumps like Dedede or Jigglypuff
@GrizbyK72
@GrizbyK72 Жыл бұрын
Dedede has 4 midair jumps but poor aerial mobility. Giving Rids 3 mid jumps would be fair. Also boost his weight so that he’s as heavy as Kazua.
@tacosunbirth
@tacosunbirth Жыл бұрын
@@GrizbyK72 I always count the initial jump and double jump as part of it, so at least in my head, every smash character has at least 2 jumps. I know the community has their own way of counting it but 6 jumps max is easier for me to remember. Also I think Kazuya and Ridley should switch weights. Kazuya is unnecessarily heavy despite being just a relatively normal-sized guy. That way, Kazuya is still heavier than Ryu, Ken and Terry, but not heavier than Wario who is (canonically) much bigger than Kazuya, despite Smash making Wario the size of Mario
@GrizbyK72
@GrizbyK72 Жыл бұрын
@@tacosunbirth Terry is actually heavier than Ridley too. Think about that… Also Wario is about as tall as Luigi canonically I think. They could’ve made him heftier.
@tacosunbirth
@tacosunbirth Жыл бұрын
@@GrizbyK72 I actually looked up the Smash Weights after my 1st reply and I was shocked to see how heavy Terry is, but it kind of makes sense too. Wario's size does change game-to-game but in most games since Wario's debut in Super Mario Land 2, he is actually like ogre-sized. Mario's size compared to Wario's size is like Kirby's size compared to King Dedede's size. I think the only reason Wario is so small in smash is because Smash-Wario's design is extremely biased towards Warioware where everyone is taller than him. I love Warioware but a lot of Wario fans like myself dislike how it, and by extension, smash, trivialize Wario's unique intended Dirtbag Strongman Circus-Carney identity into being gross, which was never really a trait he had, until Warioware and Smash warped the character so far that even Miyamoto said "If we put Wario in NSMBW, we'd have to make farts for him so we didn't" which completely misunderstands the appeal of Wario beyond his new gross-out personality
@GrizbyK72
@GrizbyK72 Жыл бұрын
@@tacosunbirth I don’t think so. He was sized up in Mario 2 with a super mushroom. And in all the party and kart games Wario is bigger than Mario for sure, but smaller than DK or Bowser.
@jassh2199
@jassh2199 Жыл бұрын
No one's gonna talk about that Vegeta mod?
@AshenDemon
@AshenDemon Жыл бұрын
12:09 This man sounds like a professional speaker in every video. So when I heard him say that I laughed more than I should have.
@mrtreeman9396
@mrtreeman9396 Жыл бұрын
As a ridley main, I feel like his biggest weakness is the fact that his fastest out of shield is frame 9. This means that most top tiers can just poke his shield for free with better frame data. If he had something like bowser up B, I'm confident he would be significantly more popular.
@EmmieVi
@EmmieVi Жыл бұрын
Ridley main here! I'm in so much pain... now I am by no means a professional player, but in my opinion (and roughly 1000 hours of playing JUST Ridley) his disadvantage state is one of the worst. He is easy combo food, and the only way out of many combos is to hope your opponent messes up. You also have to play near perfectly to KEEP an advantage state. One or two little mistakes means you are right back to neutral or even straight back into advantage. Despite everything, my big dragon boi is still by far my favorite character and is the most fun for me. Great video Vars! Glad to see more talk about the goodest boi.
@SeaOfPixels
@SeaOfPixels Жыл бұрын
You probably should've mentioned how tame his moves are compared to later DLC characters. He looks super scrunched up in many moves, ESPECIALLY fair, and that seems to be because the Smash team was more concerned with keeping things tame pre-DLC.
@sadscientisthououinkyouma1867
@sadscientisthououinkyouma1867 Жыл бұрын
If Ridley was a DLC you know for a fact he would be top 1, Fair would be fully extended, skewer would have no sour spot and come with Iframes, down air would be the tail stab and would conveniently set-up for up air kill confirm at 60.
@orangeslash1667
@orangeslash1667 Жыл бұрын
@@sadscientisthououinkyouma1867 Ridley's balanced states defiantly makes it hard for Ridley to stand out compared to other Heavy Weights. The good news is that Ridley's balanced states does make him stand out compared to Samus and Zero Suit Samus.
@firenze6478
@firenze6478 Жыл бұрын
@@orangeslash1667 so many melee and n64 veterans need complete makeovers in their movesets. Ganondorf just needs a moveset and mobility that actually is accurate to ganondorf and not captain falcon
@orangeslash1667
@orangeslash1667 Жыл бұрын
@@firenze6478 The problem is how do you balance absolute power???? That's Ganon in a nutshell, he has the Triforce of power. The good news is that Ganon is so much fun to play in Doubles.
@firenze6478
@firenze6478 Жыл бұрын
@@orangeslash1667 ganon is. Ganondorf is not. He’s fast, graceful, intelligent and crafty. The complete opposite of ganon and falcondorf.
@Vsauce596
@Vsauce596 Жыл бұрын
I love how well your commentary lines up with the gameplay at 7:27
@MXCN_El1011
@MXCN_El1011 Жыл бұрын
bro was casting for the match
@luislantigua
@luislantigua Жыл бұрын
As a Ridley main, his faults don't overshadow just how hella fun he is to play. More than a classic heavy character, I see him as a big rushdown one. His air game is simple yet effective and he has some of the most fun ledgeguards in the game. Also yeah, I always go for down-b. I may get punished for it, but damn is it hype when you hit it.
@nvrmltice
@nvrmltice Жыл бұрын
Imo Ridley would be more decent if his up B didn't take 3 years to come out, you only have four directions unlike Fox so it is more predictable anyway. It would help his recovery and could even be a powerful tool for KOs. His down air should be a traditional meteor smash, that would make it more dangerous since he can jump 3 times and his down B should break shields, it does massive damage so it only makes sense it could destroy shields but nah, it wouldn't be op since Sephiroth and Kazuya eat shields with faster moves. I also think his fair is not so good, I find myself using nair most times since is faster and more powerful if sweetspoted. I also find funny how the most hyped characters (K. Rool, Ridley, Banjo, Sora) are never used and the only one who is used (Steve) might be banned.
@EmperorPenguin1217
@EmperorPenguin1217 Жыл бұрын
His dair should be him swinging his tail downward like in the actual games
@Bigjuggs64
@Bigjuggs64 Жыл бұрын
Yeah its sucks it takes so long for up b. Dude was designed wrong
@EmperorPenguin1217
@EmperorPenguin1217 Жыл бұрын
@@Bigjuggs64 They did him so dirty
@Bigjuggs64
@Bigjuggs64 Жыл бұрын
@@EmperorPenguin1217 they were busy putting all the effort for dlcs.
@orangeslash1667
@orangeslash1667 Жыл бұрын
@@Bigjuggs64 Ridley feels like Ganondorf mixed with Charazard. He has the speed of charazard and the power of Ganondorf, but he also has the end lag of Gandorf. Meaning that Ridley can't be reckless, you have to exactly when to punish the opponent.
@mauroperez2848
@mauroperez2848 Жыл бұрын
Glad to see my main being highlighted. I do agree that Ridley struggles to have a clear identity or gameplan like Bowser and Marth. There are plenty of characters that can perform the same things that Ridley does, if not better. Despite that, he is still very fun to play as like you said. I was one of the people who was super hyped when he was first revealed and I still play him to this day. Granted, I don't play smash as often due to life and I am stuck playing online, which is annoying in its own right. I will still gladly stand by The Cunning God of Death until the very end.
@chalybee8689
@chalybee8689 Жыл бұрын
I just wish his weight was 110 units, had one extra jump like the pits and had his most iconic move that is pogo stick stab(bounces on hit) as either dair or aerial down B. (and maybe neutral B being cancelable) I'd love to see one of these videos about Mewtwo.
@zechariahcaraballo8765
@zechariahcaraballo8765 Жыл бұрын
I think they should make him faster in the air and give him one more jump to offset his size
@firenze6478
@firenze6478 Жыл бұрын
Also a non suicidal down air, just have him pogo off his tail like he does in game or skewer people with a downward spike. And let skewer break shields so its actually possible to land and let his recovery go in 8 directions, its slower than charizards flare blitz and easy to counter.
@orangeslash1667
@orangeslash1667 Жыл бұрын
@@firenze6478 You know how K Rool has attacks similar to Donkey Kong, or Triple D being a Heavier Kirby????? Ridley has a similar appeal, think about it fast character with good range, however not only do you have to be patient but you have to be very precise with your attacks. That's Zero Suit Samus!!!!!!!!!! Ridley is a pretty good contrast to Zero Suit Samus in that their attacks are very fast and focused.
@FabschOblivion669
@FabschOblivion669 Жыл бұрын
I think he’s a very solid Mid tier character that can do plenty and take stocks ridiculously early.
@ker7339
@ker7339 Жыл бұрын
Or ridiculously late, due to the lack of kill confirms, or free kill moves...
@orangeslash1667
@orangeslash1667 Жыл бұрын
@@ker7339 You know how K Rool has attacks similar to Donkey Kong, or Triple D being a Heavier Kirby????? Ridley has a similar appeal, think about it fast character with good range, however not only do you have to be patient but you have to be very precise with your attacks. That's Zero Suit Samus!!!!!!!!!! Ridley is a pretty good contrast to Zero Suit Samus in that their attacks are very fast and focused.
@ker7339
@ker7339 Жыл бұрын
@@orangeslash1667 I guess there's some similarities, however Ridley isn't even close to fast in the air, and lacks kill options, unlike ZSS. I can somewhat see what they share in Neutral and Advantage, but their Disadvantage are completely opposed...
@orangeslash1667
@orangeslash1667 Жыл бұрын
@@ker7339 I said similar, not exact. Ridley is not as fast as Zero suit Samus, but Ridley is much faster than other characters with a multi jump like Triple D, Pit, Banjo and Kazooie. Ridley is like Zero Suit Samus in that their attacks require a lot of precision. With ZSS attacks like flip jump are easy to miss, Ridley's multiple jumps makes it easier to maintain focus while aiming for your target. Even thou forward air is ok at knock back, it causes 20% easily. As for Skewer, it can sometimes work on Bowser, Shulk, Palutena, and Snake because their Smash attacks have a lot of end lag. It's especially useful in double battles because there's more chances of someone making a mistake.
@ker7339
@ker7339 Жыл бұрын
@@orangeslash1667 If I understood correctly your points, they're (very) different in stats, but have a somewhat similar gameplan/gameplay ? I could see this, but I'd still they're too different for the comparison to really work (just my opinion though, and feel free to correct me if I misunderstood what you were saying)
@Mr.Cynical
@Mr.Cynical Жыл бұрын
I honestly think all Ridley has to do is have bigger moves (akin to Sephiroth, especially his pogo tail attack for Down Air), and be a heavier character in order to rise up in ranks. He has so many good ideas to him, but he's just neutered in execution and nerfed because of the devs being too scared to go far with him. Like, he really should be a Super Heavyweight and a bit bigger. He doesn't have to be Bowser weight, but he should weigh more than a potted plant and be the biggest character on the roster.
@TripsTheRidley
@TripsTheRidley Жыл бұрын
This video was amazing in the simple fact you hit every detail on the head spot on, I was totally expecting this to be a knock off vid but you definitely Know your stuff, sad truth is that ridley is definitely an incomplete character, and if he had of gotten the buffs he needed he'd be a much more combative character
@lucg4005
@lucg4005 Жыл бұрын
He’s lacking a BEEG move. Bowser can use neutral b for easy free damage at ledge or side b for getup options off a missed ground tech. Samus literally plays around using charge shot for combo’s and damage. Even someone like Luigi has the ability to insta kill you if he grabs ya. My point: he feels like the pits. Pretty good moves all around with no super glaring weakness, but also with no standout moves to carry him. Look at any high or top tier, and you’ll usually find a strong gimmick or super incredible move they have. It’s probably why donkey kong is more popular (I think) because despite his MASSIVE weaknesses, he’s got a strong gimmick that’s appealing for some players.
@wailmoregd140
@wailmoregd140 Жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t say he’s lacking a BEEG move, more so that he lacks a good one, since both Side-B and Down-B aren’t very good, which is the difference between them and Fire Breath/Charge Shot/Plunger, they’re still moves with insanely potent capabilities, but with far less risk than anything Ridley can offer with his BEEG moves
@thebeesknees1162
@thebeesknees1162 Жыл бұрын
His tilts are HUGE just press those
@orangeslash1667
@orangeslash1667 Жыл бұрын
@@wailmoregd140 Ridley's Down B very effective on Bowser and Shulk, when they are using their Smash attacks while Ridley is shielding.
@PriestOfTheHelix
@PriestOfTheHelix Жыл бұрын
Funny story, back when 4 was the big smash game, I used to play Wario almost exclusively. He was my go to character and I didn't see myself changing mains anytime soon. While me and some friends of mine were playing together, one of them asked me "When the next smash game comes out, do you think there will be any character you'd be willing to drop Wario for?" The only thing I said in response, almost jokingly, was "Ridley." At the time, Ridley was the pipe dream character that all Metroid fans wanted but knew would never get in due to various issues. Fast forward 2 years and Ridley is announced for Ultimate and true to my word, I picked him up alongside Wario. After all this time, I have to say Ridley is my favorite character to play in this game. His command grab is one of the most fun moves to land and he has a lot of tools at his disposal that are completely jank if used a certain way. I honestly am glad he is mid to low tier. It makes it so that in semi casual and even competitive play, nobody knows how to counter him well and even if you don't win, you can usually pull off some dumb shit, and that's what makes him fun.
@maxxieboy271
@maxxieboy271 Жыл бұрын
There was nothing more hype than seeing ridley come out, and landing your first heartstopper. The sudden freeze juxtaposes just how chaotic the game is, and compounds how threatening this next 50/50 will be
@keeshuunedited5678
@keeshuunedited5678 Жыл бұрын
Sephiroth main here. However Ridley had the most hours in him before Sephiroth was released and I didn't even try to schedule time to learn how to main him like all the other characters I have tried to main in the past. He feels so fun! Also he feels like a nice hybrid between Marth + Ganondorf. Disjointed tippers, similar air speed to marth. With Ganondorf's powerful attacks on the sluggish side, also side b grab. His down+B feeling like a hybrid between shield breaker and warlock punch so it feels like one of the most satisfying moves to hit in the game (and I particularly love it because I always see a massive shift in how my opponent plays afterwards, almost guaranteed to win the rest of the set because they become so much more predictable). Also might be able to say a little bit of Meta Knight in there with a versatile nair, and having mid-air jumps. These are 3 characters I play a ton of, so Ridley being a combination of them and it's hard to resist playing him. I feel like you have to go through a few stages to actually try to main Ridley: 1. He looks simple at a glance, but then you realize he's not the simple press a direction and attack to power through with massive weight and damage like bowser. Instead he plays more like a swordfighter with his disjointed tipper attacks. 2. Know how to play "properly" or "fundamentally" but have the ability to switch into cheese mode so you can get early kills. Ridley has a lot of ways to just sneak a kill out of no-where, but he generally wants to play the neutral. Most characters will focus more towards one side or the other and it's usually obvious (And there's few characters I haven't dabbled with because I love feeling like I've "mastered" every character in a game). This is probably going to be something that a lot of people won't be able to get with him. 3. Realizing just how important nair is to him. Kinda turned me off to him after I realized just how frequently you have to use nair because I was expecting a more complicated character. He is still hard as heck to play compared to most characters in the roster, but nair just seems so strong of an option compared to his other things that if you're not prepared it can kill your love for the character. 4. The up+b never really feels better. Basically it's garbage at the start because it feels like a slower worse version of fox's up b. Then for a short time it feels better because you realize Ridley's up B is unique in it's own way because it promotes being aggressive off-stage, but doesn't really help you recover. Only to immediately feel bad again because you just want a nice recovery that works. It only feels worse from there as the more skilled of players you face, the more your recovery gets punished because people know how to stop it from working, especially since some characters can basically stop it for free. Essentially disabling one aspect of gameplay for you that other characters can still have fun in since they can mix up their recoveries more. With that said, I'm no top player, but these are some things to keep in mind as you learn to get better with him based on my experiences. I'm sure there's more for me to learn with him. With all that said, Ridley still gets a lot of love when I play smash, but he'll never be the go-to competitive choice, especially since my Pikachu main friend (best player I've fought in Ultimate. I'm so proud of his progress) made me realize just how limited his options are when the opponent doesn't want to approach. Like, normally if I get 3 stocked repeatedly by someone, I can figure out what to do and adapt to it. However, Ridley vs Pikachu, there's just absolutely nothing I could think of, no matter how many times I looked back, it just felt like there was no way to touch him. (Luckily Sephiroth, Meta Knight, and surprisingly Lucario all are able to keep up with Pikachu, and we both love the heck out of the Pikachu vs Meta Knight matchup. Sadly Ridley can't cut it) Ridley is top 5 favorites for me. Sephiroth is the main because he combines a lot of what I love about a lot of other top characters I love to play. Also Sephiroth is another big glass cannony target with huge disjointed tipper attacks that can shoot chargeable projectiles who is decently fast just like Ridley. Lucario and Meta Knight were my duo mains in Smash 4, and I tried to main them early Ultimate while I was learning other characters. Pichu is another I'm trying to main because I love the character's adorableness and potential for gameplay, but my brain just doesn't comprehend Pichu (and while Pikachu is so much easier to pick up 'cuz range with same speed and more meta, I'm stubborn and want to win on my own terms, I want Pichu) I reeeeally hope Ridley makes it back for Smash 6. Sephiroth, Pichu and many others are definitely not coming back. I could rely on Meta Knight, Lucario, Inkling, Link, Samus, Fox, to be there, but if Ridley is back there is a very high chance he could be my main for Smash 6. We'll see in 2026 what they decide to do =p I really hope they keep the focus on him being fast and aerial, while having a calculating playstyle that rewards outplaying the opponent that appears to just be brutal ferocity from an outsider perspective like he has in Ultimate..... Maybe with the tippers he has now (but maybe I'm biased 'cuz I mained Marth in Melee)
@adamkahmann2937
@adamkahmann2937 Жыл бұрын
As a Ridley main these would be the patch changes I'd propose: - Increase his air speed (I mean he is a FLYING DRAGON) - Do 2 out of 3 things with his side B 1. Decrease start up time 2. Decrease cool down time/end animation 3. Increase kill power (I personally would pick 1 & 3) - Give his down air a wind box (or increase the hitbox) You could increase his weight, but I'm okay with him being a big glass cannon. He should just have better airspeed
@defftony
@defftony Жыл бұрын
Surprisingly good video. Ridley was the first character I invested in, in Ultimate, and I had a boiled-down view of Big but not heavy. I forgot how many other things also held me back back then.
@sotherncomfort837
@sotherncomfort837 9 ай бұрын
I think the most important part of ridleys kit is the fact that he is sick, his move set is really brutal when you start applying pressure
@DeadEndGoose
@DeadEndGoose Жыл бұрын
I like how no one is commenting on the clip where Ridley dies to vegeta
@ayar2
@ayar2 Жыл бұрын
probably ryo horikawa mistakenly channeling vegeta instead of captain falcon.
@mrmrpineapple6542
@mrmrpineapple6542 Жыл бұрын
I hope Ridley gets a little bit of redesign in the next smash game since up is cool and fun but the angles are bad (except for the down angle) down air should be an obvious replacement and neutral could be like Kazuya’s laser but slower and stronger neutral B is still faithful but I think a laser would be cooler and still faithful
@flameofmage1099
@flameofmage1099 Жыл бұрын
Isn't SSBU the last one though?
@itsyaboychipsahoy.7989
@itsyaboychipsahoy.7989 Жыл бұрын
Neutral Special is one of his best moves though
@fetkreb6216
@fetkreb6216 Жыл бұрын
@@flameofmage1099 no way, smash makes too much money for nintendo
@flameofmage1099
@flameofmage1099 Жыл бұрын
@@fetkreb6216 But didn't they say this was the last Smash game? At least made by Sakurai.
@zooker7938
@zooker7938 Жыл бұрын
@@flameofmage1099 He said there were no plans to make another Smash game. However, this series is important to Nintendo so we should expect another Smash game sometime in the future. Personally, I'm hoping for a Smash Ultimate Deluxe on the next console with engine and balancing tweaks, and maybe one or two new characters.
@emilybeckstrand5413
@emilybeckstrand5413 Жыл бұрын
I've personally felt Ridley was always super slept on and underrated, because like you talked about, his advantage state is so good and it makes him feel so visceral to play. It's understandable why his glass cannon playstyle would dissuade so many people, but goddamn he disserves so much better. Genuinely if they just made him a bit heavier and maybe gave him an extra jump, I think he would be a lot more popular
@HenryZhoupokemon
@HenryZhoupokemon Жыл бұрын
It’s still tragic Ridley doesn’t get his pogo tail for a move
@fulcrum7455
@fulcrum7455 Жыл бұрын
Ridley's actually pretty fricking good he's tied with link and samus as my favorites
@Acecard-jl2py
@Acecard-jl2py Жыл бұрын
So the issue with Ridley is that he is a jack of all trades but he is slightly underwhelming in all of those categories. Ridley needs a few more tweaks so he can take more advantage of his traits that make him unique as a fighter.
@YOSSARIAN313
@YOSSARIAN313 Жыл бұрын
Make him heavier. Make him as heavy as incineroar. replace his dair and down special and improve his up special make it anglable in any direction.
@orangeslash1667
@orangeslash1667 7 ай бұрын
@@YOSSARIAN313 I think Ridley being lightweight could be a reference to his NES appearance?
@Spyder-Marth
@Spyder-Marth Жыл бұрын
I don't think he's a horrible character but Ridley does have very, very noticeable flaws that hold him back. I fought multiple Ridley mains and beat them all the same way: *counter their up special.* Ridley dies offstage to anyone with a good counter since his up special has a VERY strong and huge hitbox. Ridley being a huge and easy-to-combo character doesn't help, and some of his attacks are easy to see coming. This makes me very proud of Ridley mains like Smub. They can get big wins with a heavily-flawed character. I think Ridley is low mid tier, but he has been proven to be viable at times.
@mrmrpineapple6542
@mrmrpineapple6542 Жыл бұрын
I kinda wish untechables didn’t exist since I died to a Joker because he countered my up B 3 times off stage and killed me since Arsenes counter is super strong
@Spyder-Marth
@Spyder-Marth Жыл бұрын
@@mrmrpineapple6542 Agreed, although Joker's counter needs a nerf in general (it's too big lol)
@ieatbugs45
@ieatbugs45 Жыл бұрын
@@Spyder-Marth and it’s also a frame 4 counter lol
@orangeslash1667
@orangeslash1667 Жыл бұрын
@@Spyder-Marth Of all villains in Smash, Ridley is the Fastest. Which means he very evasive. Ridley's large size means he has good range in his Tail attacks. The downside is like most fast characters, you have to keep moving and know when to strike. Like Marth's tipper, Ridley's attacks are very pacific and focused.
@DarkThomy
@DarkThomy Жыл бұрын
That's funny, because I actually started to play Ridley BECAUSE I was maining Sephiroth and found ridley quite handy. Then, I went back to Seph and thought "Wow, it's litteraly a better ridley.. why would I actually bother..?"
@henrycardona2940
@henrycardona2940 Жыл бұрын
Holy cow I used to watch your RotMG videos. You are doing great, keep it up legend!
@brooopbib294
@brooopbib294 Жыл бұрын
Why do I main Ridley? Because he’s cool as fuck
@orangeslash1667
@orangeslash1667 Жыл бұрын
Fun Fact: Ridley is based on the Xenomorph from Aliens. Since is Ridley no longer huge, Smash focus's on the xenomorph aspects of his character. He's not as powerful as other heavy weights, but he is very fast, and his tail is great for spacing. Which means that you have to be ether very patient or very precise with your attacks, It does make sense because Ridley is shown to be very smart in the manga.
@cagnacagnacagnacagna1127
@cagnacagnacagnacagna1127 Жыл бұрын
I love this series. Can we get an episode on Robin? Although the reasons are clear to me, I just wanna hear your perspective :)
@PARR-E
@PARR-E 7 ай бұрын
Ridley being one of the most requested characters only to end up being low tier is basically what happened to Bowser in Melee.
@GrizbyK72
@GrizbyK72 Жыл бұрын
To fix some of his aerials: give dair a landing hitbox that covers his whole body, and also rework Skewer so in midair it’s his downwards tail stab from his games that functions as a more traditional move.
@lilbonsly
@lilbonsly Жыл бұрын
I was sour throughout all of Smash 4 he was made into an *awful* stage hazard, and I was estatic that he finally got in, maybe he's not the best but I'll continue to play him for as long as I'm able too
@RaheemRollair
@RaheemRollair Жыл бұрын
For me, all Ridley needs is a recovery that lets him travel anywhere at ease without wonky directions, and for him to be a super heavy weight like the other seven characters, without giving strengths and weaknesses greater than they already are. He would've been perfect for me at that case.
@Bobzilla2023
@Bobzilla2023 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this great video! As a Ridley main it was a great listen. Really makes me consider how I can better with him and hope that he can possibly get buffed when the next Smash Bros game comes. If one even does.
@jonstokes1832
@jonstokes1832 Күн бұрын
Using neutral b to block edge hairs moves is pretty sick
@gianfranconevigato764
@gianfranconevigato764 Жыл бұрын
First! I play Ridley and my controller is Ridley themed.
@gianfranconevigato764
@gianfranconevigato764 Жыл бұрын
Hyped to see this episode! Keep up the awesome videos
@Wario_B
@Wario_B Жыл бұрын
That’s really cool
@NigelThrashner
@NigelThrashner Жыл бұрын
I feel like Sakurai intentionally neglected to design some characters out of spite. I know it’s not true, but I can’t think of a better reason for Ridley, Banjo, and some others’ designs. Like, “you wanted X, here you go, you little sh*ts”
@guynamedrick4419
@guynamedrick4419 Жыл бұрын
Ditto
@orangeslash1667
@orangeslash1667 Жыл бұрын
@@guynamedrick4419 There's a reason why the Smash ballot exists, because it gives Sakurai a reason to design characters he that considers a challenge like Ridley, K Rool, Sora, and Banjo. However Characters like Joker, Piranha Plant, Incineroar, Terry, Min Min, and Byleth didn't need a Smash ballot to get in. I think the reason is the latter characters I mentioned were more easier to designed than the Ballot characters. Characters like Ridley and K Rool are kinda hard to balance due how powerful they are in their games. Where as Piranha Plant and Byleth are strong but not over powered, so balancing them is a lot easier. The point is Sakurai just finds it easier to design characters that have little to work with and expand on them.
@hallarious506
@hallarious506 Жыл бұрын
Ridley because one of my favs the first time I played him. Straight forward, strong and tough. Easy to pick up and I looove Metroid
@PirateCommando
@PirateCommando Жыл бұрын
Ridley is based off of the Charizard frame date when he was created for Ultimate much in the same way Bayonetta was based off of ZSS in Sm4sh. Sad to say that’s the reason why a lot of his moves are more similar to Charizard.
@sethstoll8525
@sethstoll8525 Жыл бұрын
Funny you say that, bc I feel like the devs went out of their way to make ridley different than charizard. I can’t think of a single move they have in common.
@orangeslash1667
@orangeslash1667 Жыл бұрын
@@sethstoll8525 His tilts are similar to Charizard, especially the up tilt. The biggest comparison is that their run speed is the exact same.
@MillenniumEyes
@MillenniumEyes Жыл бұрын
Wow the first and only character I have comfortably placed in Elite Smash.
@Spyder-Marth
@Spyder-Marth Жыл бұрын
GGs
@EmperorPenguin1217
@EmperorPenguin1217 Жыл бұрын
I got him into ES a few months ago
@orangeslash1667
@orangeslash1667 Жыл бұрын
@@Spyder-Marth The guy says that Ridley is too balanced of a character to standout, well he does standout from the other Metroid reps. Samus has the power, but she's very slow. Zero Suit Samus is very fast, but her attacks can hard to land. Ridley being balanced means that he's a good middle ground between the two Samus's.
@kiwifluorite
@kiwifluorite Жыл бұрын
I think mewtwo deserves an episode
@drew8235
@drew8235 5 ай бұрын
The design of his Up B was a crime. What were they thinking..
@StormadowTheHedgehog
@StormadowTheHedgehog Жыл бұрын
Man, I once landed 5 critical hits with his Down-B in a single fight! In fact, He's pretty much the only guy I use(along with Bowser, Sonic, Mewtwo, etc.).
@Krona-fb4dn
@Krona-fb4dn Жыл бұрын
MY main is finally here in "Why No One Plays...". Smash's biggest loser. Waited nearly since Melee to be a character. *No, his weight and up b not going in all directions are not his problems.* Overall I'd say he's not necessarily a bad character as he does genuinely have some good qualities -Fast ground speed -3rd jump -Low traction which helps enormously with tilts -Respectable range -Good kill power and edgeguarding -Good string potential -An ok-ish command grab Defining him as a heavyweight is wrong IMO, he's much more of a Jack of All Trades character that has bait and punish like a heavy. He has range and a projectile but he's not a zoner and is an honorary swordie at most. He's fast and can get good strings but he can't play rushdown. He has bait and punish but he doesn't have as much margin of error allowed like a true superheavy. Onto his problems... Firstly, for a character's quality being range, his shield pressure is somewhat lacking as most of his moves are punishable on shield unless spaced VERY perfectly. In addition to this, he lacks good OOS options, which really hurts in Ultimate as this game's ability to chuck out safe moves and aerials is a very huge deal. Ridley is made pretty weird because of this aspect and that's undoubtedly a reason why I don't think people play him His command grab is, quite frankly, an underwhelming move, its best use case is tech chases and MAYBE ledge pressure but that's it. Landing it raw on a good opponent that isn't conditioned to hold their shield up for dear life is impossible as it comes out at a sluggish 22 frames and also is easy to challenge (Inkling's startup jab beats it to tell you how easy it is to stuff). Dair is comically useless, and down B is a meme. These two points are a bit less about Ridley specifically though I think its worth pointing out that a Jack of All Trades archetype is prone to getting overshadowed, he's in a very similar vein to the Pits IMO where being just a decent mid tier with some nice tools is hardly enough to get you noticed. I'd say a root problem is that his design is heavily restricted compared to the current design. Ultimate's base roster newcomers were usually conservative with their movesets but by the time you get to DLC it starts to look pretty unfair.
@gastrodonenjoyer999
@gastrodonenjoyer999 Жыл бұрын
Wow that’s a lot of detail, thanks I’ve been trying to figure out why he’s considered to be so bad
@mauroperez2848
@mauroperez2848 Жыл бұрын
You summed it up perfectly. Ridley has a lot of good traits like you said, but he doesn't specialize in anything. Ridley is a jack-of-all-trades, but also a master of none.
@douwemusic
@douwemusic Жыл бұрын
"Defining him as a heavyweight is wrong IMO" then why did they make him so MASSIVE
@orangeslash1667
@orangeslash1667 Жыл бұрын
@@gastrodonenjoyer999 When It comes to Metroid characters do people prefer Zero suit Samus most of the time??? So many Metroid fans complain that armored Samus isn't as powerful or faithful as the Metroid games. Yet I run into Armored Samus a lot on online matches.
@Krona-fb4dn
@Krona-fb4dn Жыл бұрын
@@douwemusic Not every big body is a heavyweight or plays like one, both Rob and mewtwo are enormous but are certainly not heavyweights.
@hadesKIU
@hadesKIU Жыл бұрын
Before the premiere: My guess is that he's a heavyweight whose uniqueness, options, and "mainstream focus" have lost their luster over the years. His zoning options aren't oppressive and can be pretty committal (although they have their uses), he's hard to play effectively (because of his lack of a bread and butter game plan, his easily exploitable weaknesses, and the fact he's a low tier), his old trump card (down throw -> skewer) isn't something people fall for anymore (not to mention his doubles infinite has been removed), and I've seen some players say he has a basic or boring moveset (standard neutral B projectile, down B super move, side B command grab, aim-able up B, and no unique mechanics like Rosalina, Joker, Cloud, Pokemon Trainer, Lucario, etc). He's also sort of a glass canon despite his size, making him an unsafe pick compared to other glass canons.
@Spyder-Marth
@Spyder-Marth Жыл бұрын
Don't forget his bad and exploitable recovery. I main Marth, so I just knock Ridley offstage and counter his up special ALL. THE. TIME. I could be losing horribly until that point and end up winning lol.
@Krona-fb4dn
@Krona-fb4dn Жыл бұрын
@Hades I disagree about Glass Cannon, Sephiroth and Mewtwo players would KILL to have the weight that I get as Ridley and his bigger problem is just lacking good 'get off me' tools to escape disadvantage. As much as the "lighter than Samus" trend is, he's not terribly light at 107 units. Down throw to skewer was always a meme setup IMO and was never really a trump card. In addition I heavily disagree about low tier, he's in mid tier undoubtedly as he doesn't have the same problems as low tiers.
@darkstryller
@darkstryller Жыл бұрын
Also, ridley is not a superheavyweight fighter like it should be. His weight is 107, which is exactly one unit less than Samus. But 107 is not even close for ridley to be considered superheavyweight, because the minimum weight you need is 113. This means he is not a heavy like he should, stuck with attacks that are predictable.
@Krona-fb4dn
@Krona-fb4dn Жыл бұрын
@@darkstryller Ridley having a higher weight wouldn't help him that much. Dying early is not as big of a problem as getting comboed and his disadvantage state. Increasing his weight doesn't really improve it but just makes it a problem later. In addition a weight increase might be a shadownerf in the long run by making him far easier to combo and juggle.
@darkstryller
@darkstryller Жыл бұрын
@@Krona-fb4dn the weight is just another problem on top of more problems that make him bad. His size is a bigger problem, like you said. Another problem is that his recovery is predictable, having 4 directions and none of the being safe to hit or recover really hurts him.
@Br3nji
@Br3nji Жыл бұрын
Great video yet again! I would love a why suddenly everyone plays Sephiroth
@aronspiker72
@aronspiker72 Жыл бұрын
That character went from DLC pack 2 top 15, to easily the weakest of Fighters pass 2, to now getting alot more attention from the players that dropped him
@oddityxd2683
@oddityxd2683 Жыл бұрын
@@aronspiker72 weakest? He shits all over Sora and better than kazuya
@aronspiker72
@aronspiker72 Жыл бұрын
@@oddityxd2683 I more meant in terms of top players' opinions as many of them put Seph towards the bottom-half of high tier
@orangeslash1667
@orangeslash1667 Жыл бұрын
@@aronspiker72 You know how Marth is good at spacing, Sephiroth is like Marth but terrifying due to his long sword and Sid B.
@xxwallzxx4509
@xxwallzxx4509 Жыл бұрын
There is sonic as well as only protagonist. There is still hope for Shadow, Knuckles, Tails, Amy or Dr. Eggman. As 4 fighters are yet to be announced. There is also Captain Falcon as well. They can add in Black Bull. I know one will freak out.
@npc_blob1609
@npc_blob1609 Жыл бұрын
Black Bull is visually such an ugly design tho and there's even less to base a moveset off of than Falcon. I don't think many F-Zero fans view him with much reverence compared to villains like Zoda.
@ikaros6633
@ikaros6633 Жыл бұрын
Can you do why no one plays Corrin next. I personally love playing Corrin and watching shadic play Corrin but I wanna know why no one else does.
@N12015
@N12015 Жыл бұрын
1°: NO ONE likes Corrin, not even FE fans so you're already lost on that regard. 2°: Lots of nerfs on the transition, making her very mediocre of a pick. 3°: Competition buffs and DLC. There's NOTHING Corrin can do some swordfighter can't do better.
@douwemusic
@douwemusic Жыл бұрын
Man it's really rough for me because I love Corrin as well but her moveset just feels so... Generic (besides her specials obv)
@ikaros6633
@ikaros6633 Жыл бұрын
@@douwemusic the reason I love Corrin is because unlike most sword units Corrin has combos that are true and simple but also her specials are really good too.
@orangeslash1667
@orangeslash1667 Жыл бұрын
@@douwemusic Corrin is based on the Manaketes, a race in Fire Emblem characters that turn into Dragons. Corrin is not like the others, because if he was he incredibly broken. Shapeshifting characters are kinda hard to design in a fighting game.
@orangeslash1667
@orangeslash1667 Жыл бұрын
@@N12015 the Reason for fate's sloppy story, is because the writers where trying to achieve too much with not enough time. Intelligents Systems had an idea for Fate to have three stories to appeal to everyone, but they realized that they didn't have enough writers. So they hired an outside writer, Shin Kibayashi was that writer. Intelligent Systems wanted Shin to write the outline for each pathway, what happened instead is that Shin wrote 500 pages for each pathway. Intelligent System knew this was too long so they cut the story into pieces without the writers permission and the fact the Nintendo demanded Fates come on the Fire Emblem Anniversary only made things worse. Which resulted in this hilariously mess of a story. Not Helping matters is that Nintendo Treehouse didn't do a good job with Localization, so maybe that's why Corrin is portrayed as unintentionally unlikeable?????? The good news this that there is a manga based on Fates that is a little better. Its called Fire Emblem If: the Crown of Niberlung.
@SonicTheCutehog
@SonicTheCutehog Жыл бұрын
Average Smash fan mindset. They demand a character to be in Smash and then don't play them once they get in.
@nocturn333
@nocturn333 Жыл бұрын
People only like the idea of a character making it into Smash.
@Rarest26
@Rarest26 Жыл бұрын
Or worse, want it gone after asking for it. Steve is the shining example, althougb tbf all of FP2 has this problem cause the community is full of idiots.
@ayar2
@ayar2 Жыл бұрын
same happened with banjo
@snackknight
@snackknight Жыл бұрын
Ridley, Banjo, Steve, and Sora are quite literally the funniest additions to this game because everyone wanted them and now either nobody plays Ridley or everyone absolutely DESPISES the last three
@KaitouKaiju
@KaitouKaiju Жыл бұрын
Only in a competitive sense dude Casual matches have a bigger spread
@silvergalaxia8538
@silvergalaxia8538 Жыл бұрын
It's a huge missed opportunity that ridley's down air is just a terrible stall and fall instead of the iconic tail pogo from super metroid
@spicymeatballs2thespicening
@spicymeatballs2thespicening Жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more, how could they mess up such an iconic, perfect attack
@ComboFood
@ComboFood Жыл бұрын
All this though means when he gets going he’s the *most* satisfying character in the game, at least in my opinion, It’s such a power rush
@N12015
@N12015 Жыл бұрын
Because Bowser exists and outclass him almost entirely. Seriously, if you are this big you need to compensate for that, and Ridley does not; below average frame data, not that heavy, average range for his size, can't mix up his awful recovery, a terrible air mobility and very telegraphed, punishable moves.
@sagirem
@sagirem Жыл бұрын
But big funny dragon
@ihopeyouandicanbefriends
@ihopeyouandicanbefriends Жыл бұрын
I disagree with his frame data being below average, especially considering the range and disjoint of a considerable portion of his attacks, but the other points I agree with. I am still unsure as to why Ridley is so light despite having the same flaws as other typical heavyweights. his recovery is very difficult to mess with as certain characters, but if you have the tools (like a counter lol) edgeguarding him becomes effortless. Imo he should definitely be a heavier character; it wouldn't make him imbalanced, would reflect his size better and put him in contention among the best heavies since he's basically as fast as bowser but exchanges some raw defensive capability and the easy kill options with a more manageable disadvantage and arguably a more difficult advantage to escape from due to the 3 jumps, Ridley's juggling game and Nair which could lead into edgeguarding scenarios. would make for a more interesting character but it seems the smash balance team is less concerned with that when it comes to ridley, and settled on making him suffer from mewtwo syndrome where he has the weaknesses of a heavy but lacks the weight to compensate so he just sux a lot of the time
@N12015
@N12015 Жыл бұрын
@@ihopeyouandicanbefriends I did not say it's terrible, is again, below average, but so is DK and Pyra. It's definitely serviceable but you'll notice the clunkiness of it at times, specially when you are forced to shield.
@Krona-fb4dn
@Krona-fb4dn Жыл бұрын
@@ihopeyouandicanbefriends Ridley's weight is not his problem and his disadvantage is VASTLY worse than bowser's what are you even talking about. Buffing his weight would not be that helpful to him as it would just make him better combofood and the advantage of dying just a lil' percent later is not worth that at all.
@Krona-fb4dn
@Krona-fb4dn Жыл бұрын
@@N12015 I think the primary problem why people say his recovery is bad stems from inexperience. You have two mid air jumps, SPR to use, an air dodge, nair is great for stuffing out bad edgeguards and even can reverse it, and his up B is unchallengeable for most characters when he's coming from below. Offstage, his problem is never actually getting the distance to grab ledge, his primary difficulty is actually getting off ledge and out of disadvantage. He can recover high and from the middle for good mixup potential so idk where you think the idea that he can't mix it up came from. His recovery isn't something state of the art but its by no means horrible as many people try to say it is. The rest of your problems with the character are somewhat warranted, but he has a very fast ground speed and a fair amount of his moves have good range and disjoint, even if they're not the best. He's definitely a solid mid tier.
@hotwings80
@hotwings80 Жыл бұрын
Had no idea Vars made a smash channels let's go!!
@_GTX1650
@_GTX1650 6 күн бұрын
12:46 that squirtle got DUNKED ON
@fury_saves_world
@fury_saves_world Жыл бұрын
Side B off the bottom side of the stage is one of my favorite steezes lmao
@SonicTheCutehog
@SonicTheCutehog Жыл бұрын
3:04 I see that Marth mod with the Fire Emblem!
@ridleyrequiem3594
@ridleyrequiem3594 Жыл бұрын
I will forever be a Ridley main like have been for the past 3 years
@kiraflo98
@kiraflo98 Жыл бұрын
Would really love to see a video on Zelda! Menace in online smash, but rarely played in competitive smash
@UltimateTS64
@UltimateTS64 Жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for this
@konflicted1729
@konflicted1729 Жыл бұрын
Damn Sakurai put Vegeta in. The mad man.
@jeremyrossi2716
@jeremyrossi2716 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, I think one of Ridley’s main problems is that people don’t fully put 2 and 2 together on the optimal way to play him. People look at the big scary dragon and think that mindlessly rushing in to rack up high damage is the right call, but what people should do-especially since so many of Ridley’s moves have quick startup and wide range-is to let your opponents bring the fight to you (except when edgeguarding). Playing as Ridley is a lot easier and a lot more satisfying when you stop trying to rush down a foe that’s just not having your nonsense today and instead let them approach and punish them brutally for the smallest error. Ridley’s the Cunning God of Death, playing him mandates learning how to best punish a foe for the tiniest slip up and then just absolutely wreck them.
@insnpngn
@insnpngn Жыл бұрын
In game 2 or 3, once I've gotten a read on my opponent's movement, I'll throw out (and usually land) a down-b or two. It is very satisfying :)
@amaterasu1145
@amaterasu1145 Жыл бұрын
As a person who use to play Ridley he can indeed use his up b in any direction he wants infact I have used this to my advantage ever time
@justanatheist1583
@justanatheist1583 Жыл бұрын
Are you going to do an "Why NO ONE Plays: Jigglypuff" video ? I love Ridley, they did my boy dirty.
@rexedous3908
@rexedous3908 Жыл бұрын
As a Day One Ridley main, this video kinda rings true. That being said, he is so much fun to play, and so rewarding if you simply bring good mind games to the table. I regularly spar with my friend who mains Toon Link, and have no issues keeping it an even match. As for D-air and Down Special: D-air is a great mix-up tool, especially if you short-hop -> D-air. Has good knock-back and is very mashable. Down Special is always either a vibe check (see if they're paying attention), a nasty surprise (sneak it in with a read and screw their mental state up), or a hail Mary (if your in bad shape and got nothing to lose).
@thejplace3947
@thejplace3947 Жыл бұрын
You've listed nearly all my mains in your (Why nobody plays) series 😭
@KeseyActually
@KeseyActually Жыл бұрын
Seeing Wolfey for a sec in any video always makes me smile
@Flare8295
@Flare8295 8 ай бұрын
It's funny that Fox,Falco and Wolf have the "whatever angle you want recoveries" before adding Ridley skipping him in the process but then they go on to give Sephiroth the same treatment the space animals got after Ridley was added if you ask me that's extremely unfair for Ridley
@xxxSubZero
@xxxSubZero Жыл бұрын
Been off the game for awhile but Ridley was my main. Once Sephiroth came out it just felt like he was a better ridley. Similar normals but with a usable down b, his d-air also can poke below stage edge. His B also felt like much better edge pressure
@darkraven5626
@darkraven5626 Жыл бұрын
8:18 What is the Prince of all Saiyans who constantly makes it clear that he is doing in Smash? (I know, modding)
@Native2Earth
@Native2Earth 9 ай бұрын
Ridley needs 3 fixes : 1) 4th jump 2) down special having super armor 3) side b further in air
@Kajora47
@Kajora47 Жыл бұрын
I know a lot of people think Ridley deserves some buffs, and as a Ridley main I can agree, but at the same time I love him near where he is right now: low tier. It makes his role in smash bros so much better, the bad(ish) but SCARY character that sometimes will just wreck you. I personally would want him to be around mid to high-ish tier if it was up to me.
@ayar2
@ayar2 Жыл бұрын
kind of confirms that ridley works better as a boss character, since to make him playable and balanced they had to take away most of his power, size and aerial presence, that said, it works well enough in a 4 player battle, where his powerful but committal abilities work the best without too much fear of retaliation.
@Kornerupine888
@Kornerupine888 3 ай бұрын
I love ridley and I've always had ideas on how we could change him maybe not for the better or maybe not for the worst but just to change him. float and jump- I think Ridley deserves an additional jump and a float, why? because he deserves to have powerful wings. I want him to be the tyrant of the skies for no other reason than "that would be really baller". I also want him to have a float but not just any float but a descending float. if he moves in a direction for a while he'll pick up speed and enter an impact run status where he'll charge through the air. I think that would be really cool at the very least. you could put in any input to get out of the float or while you're moving but when you're in the impact run mode you just keep going picking up speed till you hit a max which will deal more damage. when he lands on stage while dashing he'll go into his cool winners stance with his feet out in front and he's braced for impact. I understand some people might say "but Kornerupine why in the world would you give him another jump when he's already taking me close to the blast zone chaining forward airs??" and to that I have no comment new shield?- I definitely want to play around with the idea of him having a shield like Yoshi. just increase his defense in this shield state and we're good. he could cover himself with his wings to make like a cocoon formation but if his shield breaks his wings also break for a certain amount of time meaning he only has one additional jump for awhile till he heals or maybe if you're playing with items and you eat food it speeds up the process. this isn't a necessary change but it's something to think about. neutral B- I'm totally fine with this and I'm absolutely fine with the taking extra damage when charging and you get hit but what he really needs is to be able to save it for a rainy day like so many characters can do and not take extra damage when hit once it's properly stored. I could also see a delay before shooting all of them out again, which I'm completely fine with the trajectory and how they move, but what if you can change the directions of it either on ground or in air. shooting left or right would behave normally both on ground and in air but what interests me is being able to shoot them up kinda like a fountain. they will in no way go up an amazing height but consider it another WIDER multi hit up air since at it's apex it will curve and go back down around you. this works similarly with shooting them downwards, however when on the ground there will be a splash of fire nearby his mouth on the ground and the fireballs will appear both left and right, half on one side half on the other side. when he does this in the air it works similarly like the upwards variety with it being a long range multi hit down air with a small spread with the projectiles, I'm considering no spread at all due to the size of the fireballs and that just seeming insane coverage in general. these are just my thoughts and I do wonder if it's best to hide them in a youtube comment section but I hope this finds people who want to discuss ridley and how we can live in a better and more perfect ridley world.
@Snacks256
@Snacks256 Жыл бұрын
They must have thought Wing Blitz was such an amazing move that it had to have absolutely terrible angles unless you burn a jump. Baffling.
@meat7490
@meat7490 Жыл бұрын
Man at this point he’s just there for decoration, much like Banjo so we can say “oh and the internet went crazy” during those retrospective videos
@ExplodingDuckBrigade
@ExplodingDuckBrigade Жыл бұрын
God I remember the summer of 2014. I debated with people for ages on smash boards and KZbin comments.
@Ryan-rt5bl
@Ryan-rt5bl Жыл бұрын
Me: Just picked up Ridley Vars: Imma ruin this mans career.
@Lexgamer
@Lexgamer Жыл бұрын
I play Ridley! Probably one of the few who wanted him to actually play him :). The trick is to play off literally no one knowing the match up, lol.
@Bminutes
@Bminutes Жыл бұрын
I run/stream a smash arena every saturday and we had a killer Ridley last week destroying everyone lol
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