The Tomorrowverse.

[@montelhelem8707]

They rushed this universe so fast and it makes me sad. When I saw they were doing Crisis I was like nah I'm good bro

[@DarrenLeslieJr]

I feel bad for Jensen Ackles. Dude's always wanted to play Batman, does a great job in Long Halloween, then gets sucked into mulitverse crisis shenanigans.

[@patricklynch4074]

I first heard about the universe when they were doing crisis and i was flabbergasted Im a dc fan and i didnt even hear of the universe until it was over

[@popeye697]

The irony of people trashing the tomorrowverse is that it was legitimately better than the universe it replaced that they loved so much. Even the animation is better and yet people can't seem to see it. The new 52 DCAU movie universe only had one good movie in Flashpoint and the rest were badly written poorly animated and the features the worst of all the Robins in Damian Wayne.

[@xXLiLJokerXx]

Lol, still multitudes better then the Snyder verse and the cw verse. The tomorrow verse is second only to the JLAU. Now get off your high horse and get real.

[@mandalorianhunter1]

Sad how most universes are becoming like this, start as something fresh, lose steam real fast and just thrown away.

[@MW2proification]

I get that as well, so many potential stories never saw their completion, mostly due to money concerns.

[@jaycoFML]

Has to have something to do with the DCAU being rebooted right?

[@mandalorianhunter1]

@@jaycoFML is it?

[@iammaximumstupied]

@@jaycoFMLna pretty much they gave up on the embargos they used too do, realistically the cartoon movies have just been having small popularity than what they used to be. like the ultra violence the past series did turned off a couple fans and they just didn’t emd up coming back to the tomorrowverse.

[@xXLiLJokerXx]

Teen titans go annoyingly knocking on the door

[@YungandRekless545]

I personally liked the artstyle for this universe. Not sure why other people hated it so much, but I've accepted it.

[@RacerMcJack]

It takes time for them to accept new things which are different, and they tend to treat them different too like as if they were an outcast or something

[@artisticaperture846]

I for one embraced it instantly but I’m also an outlier cause I hated the previous style

[@RacerMcJack]

@@artisticaperture846 same because loads of people joked about the animation/art style used in Justice League flashpoint paradox Having heads drawn unproportional to their torso

[@ashwinnaidoo796]

Long halloween was the first movie i watched in this universe, i thought the style really worked for that movie but it was kinda hard to look at for the rest

[@michael13849]

Same ​@@ashwinnaidoo796

[@Augustus087]

"A few moments of empathy is a more meaningful life, than multiple lifetimes of indifference." Worthy and well said. Thank you.

[@GRG28248]

Honestly, I'm sad we'll never get a 'Dark Victory' sequel to the Long Halloween. It's a really good story and represents a sudden upward turn in Bruce's life. That's the thing with Batman's adoption of Robin. It's ridiculously important in Bruce's story ark because it marks the point where he starts to 'care' again. It takes a high-energy kid from the circus to show him what he 'should' be as opposed to what he is.

[@milkiassamuel780]

Agreed. Dark Victory in my opinion is the most underrated Batman story and I had a hope's we'd get a sequel adapting this storyline. It would've made a great movie where we see Bruce develop his relationship with Dick Grayson and the origin of Robin which helps to allow Bruce to open himself up more with people and letting people in again after the loss of his parents and the downfall of Harvey Dent. Plus it also could've truly shown Gotham embrace this era of supervillains by showing Two Face lead the villains underground while also trying to uncover who the Hangman is.

[@mayotango1317]

But this Batman never adopt Robin. He think that is a stupid idea.

[@MyActualThoughts]

The Tomorrowverse started out so strong( In my opinion with Superman acting like...well Superman) I wish they didnt decide to nuke it so quickly with the mess that was the Crisis on Infinite Earth. Which was alright, but it felt so rushed.

[@Kamodomon]

This is fantastic. Great video. Makes me want to check them all out now. Thank you for putting in the time and effort to re-do the video. Keep it up!

[@LibraryLateFees]

Makes sense to have things be rewritten for this, the last few movies really changed the experience of the rest of them. I found this series super interesting. I've always loved them. This whole arc.

[@StareachValcin]

I honestly enjoyed the tomorrowverse in its entirety. The movies and shorts were entertaining both individually and as a part of a larger story. I enjoyed the characters, especially Superman and Supergirl. If there was one problem I had with the tomorrowverse, it's that it ended too soon. It, however, had a great ending that was both sad yet hopeful.

[@fad23]

I just watched all of these since the release of Crisis. I'll be watching your video soon!

[@retroforager]

i will always love the tomorrowverse

[@rus.t]

I like the Tomorrowverse. Granted that it isn't perfect but it feels like a response to the current superhero media phenomenon.

[@popeye697]

Making Hal Jordan corrupted by power is rhe way he was in the comics before Geoff Johns retconned it to not be his fault. Making Hal's turn his choice was always the correct action because the consequences are now real and grounded.

[@NightRunner2099]

Tomorrowverse felt like it was trying to not repeat the stuff that Dcamu did and tell a story around that or tell it differently. An origin for Superman, a Batman in his early days, a Justice Society movie, etc. Even the formation of the League is quite different and told much later. And because of that, as you said the changes can feel like leaps rather than baby steps of Dcamu because the universe assumes that you're already familiar with the characters due to previous projects or general knowledge.

[@KingOfMadCows]

Once again, WB screws over DC animation. Cutting budgets, rushing production, cutting movies, never giving the writers what they need.

[@karimdavis7065]

WB never deserved DC

[@xXLiLJokerXx]

Not only denying the writers what they need but the fans what they want. True statement right there.

[@mrorange8576]

The best thing about the tommorrow verse was the questions cameo's in Crisis

[@mack_r-s]

I see a lot of people upset at how short the Tomorrowverse is, but I for one actually like its length. It's a very snappy series that doesn't waste your time or feature any pointless detours. Each of the 10 films build upon the same themes, and every major character gets at least one movie to shine. And just like the DCAMU, every arc and storyline is paid off in the finale.

[@menanmate2006]

I finished my DCAMU/Tomorrowverse Saga watch and I loved it. Months later I cannot stop thinking about all of these 20 plus movies. This universe was short lived but I also admire it’s brilliant ending

[@MindOfGenius]

Something I want to point out: The Question rejects this "new reality" that is made...does this make him now "beyond the world" on the same level as The Phantom? And on a random note, with the newest Absolute comic book series, I wonder what The Question will look like in a world where Hope has to struggle to survive....

[@dynaguy3]

I stand by the Tomorrowverse being more consistent than the DCAMU

[@chrisray7728]

Oh, I love these movies. Warworld is easily a top 5 animated DC movie for me. I was hoping you'd talk about Constantine and Question not going through the portal and how or if that will mean neither of their characters are present for the next big round of movies.

[@starflakey]

you’re not the only one who likes ‘em 🙂

[@randytolsma3644]

Despite its flaws this was my favorite non comic take on Superman since I & II

[@TheLithp]

I legit forgot that Psycho Pirate was in Justice Society: WWII. I thought he just came out of nowhere in Crisis on Infinite Earths. That's really an overarching problem with this series. Things jump around so much, are so disconnected, & then small things from several movies ago become main plot points that I can't remember what I'm supposed to already know or not. And if anyone wants to say it's just my fault for my memory being bad, there are plenty of things that are legitimately never established. Kommandi's short ends with the idea that he's special because he's kind to his enemies; he represents Superman's values &, in fact, is supposed to find Superman, who is believed to still be alive after the apocalypse. Fast forward to Crisis, & Kommandi is now so consumed by PTSD that he attacks Monsieur Mallah on sight because he's just THAT distrustful of any talking animal, since they remind him of his enemies back home. WTF happened in the middle, there? Did he find that world's Superman or not? Is this a different Kommandi? If so, why didn't they show this one instead of the other version? It's hard to even keep track of who is from what universe because they mostly use the same designs. It's just constant whiplash. It's not that I hate all of the movies. Far from it. They all had some weird twists, but I enjoyed most of them. Even though I thought Crisis was too long, had a really dumb plot, & most of its payoffs were unsatisfying, I still enjoyed the characters. But that's part of the problem. I didn't get enough time with any of these worlds, & no, that's not in a "Wanting more is a good problem to have" kind of way. I mean it was hard to care about things because they just blew right past without any time to get me invested. Like when Hawkgirl & John get together during a montage. Cool reference to a popular aspect in the DCAU. But y'know why that was so popular? Because it took the time to flesh out those characters & show us every step of their relationship. In the Tomorrowverse, there's just the one movie, & then they're bit parts in Crisis. I WANT to like their John & Hawkgirl, even if they're not as good as the DCAU versions, but they just don't really get a chance. And they're far from the only example. Well, okay, I guess I cared enough in that I found the resolution extremely unfair to the characters, but I think that's just because it seems inherently messed up. So, everyone is cancer, & the only way to "save" them is to create a composite universe where the new characters are composed of "tiny pieces" of the old ones? No, actually, I don't think that's a happy ending. I think it's disturbingly bleak, maybe even worse than full-on nihilism because at least there's a kind of fairness in "the value of everyone is 0." Do recall that tons of universes were wiped out before they even made it to that point, & thus, are by definition not part of the "composite universe." Don't get me wrong, I get the meta commentary, but I think the old universe handled it better. It was basically "Circumstances force us to reset, but we're going to turn that into a point about how it's an opportunity to do something different; some decisions will be bad, some will even be the same mistakes, & we might just come back here again, but we're ending this version of the story on our own terms." I respect that a lot more than this wishy-washy "we caused a bunch of confusion by being incredibly inconsistent in how much we care about continuity, but hey, we did Crisis, & now the multiverse doesn't exist or something, except is this really going to be the singular canon from now on? Who knows or cares, but it's how Crisis ended, & we gotta do that, even if it was dumb &/or no longer makes sense in the current incarnation of DC."

[@mahatmarandy5977]

Clark in the diner is VERY much like a particular Twilight Zone episode

[@TevyaSmolka]

The tomorrowverse had such much potential but they dropped the ball badly by rushing this universe to its very end which is sad because we could’ve gotten more great stories within this universe but they wasted it badly really badly in my opinion.

[@Roz4628]

I didn't know about these movies, I'll have to give them a shot now.

[@alexandercolic405]

I liked them as well. Well written and put together in such a way that although they were rushing and cramming a lot of backstory character building in a short amount of time, it was done well and left we wanting more.

[@parzivalthestormtrooper5017]

PLEASE TALK ABOUT CAPED CRUSADER I BEG

[@ericemanwu]

But he did. It's in his videos already.

[@crocks5132]

The song at 30:40 is golden by Tommy Ljungberg Tribute

[@ericjauregui3089]

Thank you sooo much!!!!

[@Elfenlied8675309]

GOD These movies started so strong, I still like some of them but the Crisis movie was eh.. Great video!

[@theManuScript]

what could have been...cut so short

[@tristanm4442]

Whats the name of the song at 30:26 of the video?

[@nickp9062]

Golden (Tribute Version) by Tommy Ljungberg

[@anthonypototzky1644]

27:13 you put the bonfire sound effect from dark souls in there when talking about empathy. Brother. Nice touch.

[@flammableghost]

imo the DC animated movies were at their strongest when they weren't trying to establish a shared universe.

[@Zombie81212]

30:00 you were so real for this

[@yoboimichproductionsinc.2948]

The long halloween part one depressed my mom she wouldnt watch part two she said its hard to watch and too emotional lol

[@mattyaboi1653]

It was planned to be way longer than 10 films. I have the Blu-ray’s to prove it. I own everyone of em. Payed $20 each, maybe more. The Long Halloween is the peak of this saga tho.

[@DoctorKnow00]

The end of the DCAMU and the Tomorrowverse were huge missed opportunities. Both were ended prematurely.

[@nicosyoutubelife8968]

I checked out when they disrespected Hal Jordan. Can burn for all I care

[@DaniG._.German]

Did WB give their animators a deadline to wrap things up? Both Tomorrowverse and Young Justice-verse have the same problem: rushing to an nonsensical end.

[@alexneff]

Stop making me feel things ❤❤❤

[@who7755]

Say what you will, but I enjoyed this universe for what it was. Also, Jensen Ackles as Batman was surprisingly enjoyable hope he’s the new DCU Batman.

[@dirkCjelli]

Havent fully watched it yet, but I think the whole idea that Darkseid is a constant just makes me sad. Just what the hell Also the whole idea the Speed Force is Zero-Sum, where you can just nerf all speedsters by having more than one at a time. It just encourages speedsters to kill each other until there's only one guy who can access the whole speed force. And it doesn't even make sense either, because Barry could go back in time just fine even while Zoom existed, but Zoom had to die in flashpoint so that Barry can alter time yet again??

[@DanielJPaczok]

I've watched a spattering of films from the tomorrowverse and most of the previous series but in no particular order. Without these videos I wouldn't have any concept of the overarching plots.

[@AnonEcho98]

I genuinely did not touch the tomorrowverse, because Apocalypse war was too depressive, and the Crisis only strengthened that decision, by making Darkseid some immutable pillar of existence, because what does that say, if not "Evil will always win", literally jacking off the personification of tyranny and evil. *EDIT to expand on things;* Like, yes, all the positive things you said about the meanings and all? That's still correct... but that whole "Darkseid _MUST_ exist for the universe to survive." does cast a dark, monstrous shadow on the whole verse, and personally? I don't like for worlds to go that dark. We've already got enough darkness IRL, so having some good, positive worlds just feels nice. Like, when things get too dark and in favor of the villains, it really saps the enjoyment from a media consumer angle, and it just pours in apathy, because if everything's gonna go tits up, why care?

[@amanzeihedioha]

So many stories...sigh and still no Bloodlines horror movie!😅

[@Bat_fan-1]

I liked the Long Halloween and Man of tomorrow. The others were.... These movies rely HEAVILY on background moments, and it feels like they've speedranway these movies to Crisis. Hell, I haven't even SEEN Grewn Lantern or Supergirls movie, but I doubt I'm missing anything! I watched Warworld and on its own... it's alright. In the tomorrowverse. It's bad. The whole reason I watched Crisis on Infinite Earths was because of Helena Wayne. The daughter of Batman and Catwoman. My favourite non-batfam member on Earth-2, and she's not really used much... Still, she was great in whatever moment she got!

[@brickwho101]

So sad that since Gunn took over dc it’s near impossible to watch crisis hear in the uk. That and the watchmen animated movies. Not even getting proper physical releases here in the uk anymore. So my tomorrow verse is just left unfinished on my shelf 😑

[@lando7636]

I forgot about this universe man it was so boring it was just straight to the world ending event after a few movies

[@HaloManTheSpider]

Sooo Ally Allston (from Superman & Lois) was right to merge people from the multiverse.

[@underrated3143]

Remember they killed off the OG TEEN TITANS, shame there will be no Season 6

[@Maikigai]

The Tomorrowverse was my farewell to DC. Technically Superman and Lois was, but I’ve been following DC for nearly 40 years now, and when they canceled the Snyderverse (which was everything I ever wanted), as a fan I felt betrayed. So I allowed these animated movies to be my farewell. They were good, I enjoyed them, and they had an actual end. After this, I’ll just casually look back fondly, because the future of DC looks too much like a hot mess of a dumpster fire.

[@fad23]

You and I have very different views of the DC Universe. Now that Snyder is on, I'm finally ready to be rewarded for my patience

[@karimdavis7065]

Blame James Gunn and WB DC Comics are always INFINITELY better than marvel DC Comics are putting out BANGER comics

[@karimdavis7065]

You clearly know nothing about DC Comics. DC Comics have always been putting out high quality comics. If you have any troubles with DC movies/TV shows blame Warner Bros and James Gunn, not DC,

[@jamilfrost6217]

The tomorrowverse shouldn't have been a universe it sould have just been more stand alone adaptions and elseworld stories like the doom that came to Gotham.

[@DaniG._.German]

If Clark's parents died when he was 3, who made him his super-suit?

[@joannatantivilaisin858]

im all in

[@deltafive_o-first2417]

I liked the whole 1 timeline across a changed universe thing and all the hints and connections but the majority of the movies were just full of so many issues and not very enjoyable🫤

[@louismartin6840]

Whats the Name of the Song at Crisis Part 3 at the end?

[@harshpandey8624]

My brother in christ wheres the arrow video?

[@Kennyselman]

I kinda liked the Tomorrowverse...but it both felt too different per movie, and not sure when any movies actually came out? Not to mention, I didn't get that The Long Halloween was actually part of the Tomorrowverse.

[@srstriker6420]

This needed a few more movies as some of it feels rushed

[@milkiassamuel780]

It sucks how badly they rushed this universe as there was so much potential to naturally set things up with good quality movies, especially since at first I really liked Superman: Man of Tomorrow and thought it was a solid start to this universe and Batman Long Halloween Part 1 and 2 were probably my favourite movie's in this universe but sadly they failed and gave some very mediocre and or bad DC mocies rhat felt rushed and wasted a lot of storytelling potential for characters while also changing many things that led to further disconnection and consulted arcs

[@ShinySephiroth1]

JSA wasn't time travel but mulitversal

[@JeromeFelipe]

The Constantine movie was not part of the Tomorrowverse?

[@Markm8]

The slop of tomorrow

[@victorhugorodriguez773]

where is the watch guide to this??? see all? in order of release?

[@Theycallmetomu]

Am I the only one that liked the Crisis movies?

[@malcolmroache3854]

The Tomorrowverse was promising but fell short. I think the heads wanted to hurry up and end this universe so they can have more cohesion which I'm not really a fan of. Supes, Bats, WW, GL, Flash, and Supergirl were the highlights but everything after was terrible. Flash and Iris were great. Again some promise because I love Man of Tomorrow and Bats movies. Really hope the DCU takes some inspiration from them.

[@elixirdrench3d]

E.T by Katy Perry!!

[@fangoram29]

Wow i skipped all of these movies but i can already tell i would have been so mad at the legion movie. Big Mon-el fan but not sure why

[@SourRobo8364]

I really don't want James Gunn's DCU to have the every animated project be connected to it.

[@bendewalt5560]

Am i the only one who feels we definitely need more wonder woman...superman and lois into my adventures with superman to james gun superman. The batman, into caped crusader, and batman part 2 and james gun's brave and the bold movie...like is it a Trinity or not? While i believe we need more wonder woman in general...i mean to convey here that we need more wonder woman...right now. If u ignore team ups, and multi hero media, and only include where wonder woman is the title chatacter...can u name ten? Now drop unaired and not picked up pilots that werent officially released to the public...do u even need more than one hand? Probably, but u didnt know that before reading this. Lol

[@Hershman545]

cw did it bettter

[@Minetic]

Universe had potential but some of the stories were very lacking and its quick conclusion was unsatisfying. Bet it had to do with the new regime at DC

[@Augustus087]

Leo, May I invite you to read my novel, A Golconda Story. I would be interested what your skill at story analysis might reveal. =) There is more to it than meets the eye.

[@Isiah61]

I didnt like it but enjoying your opinions on it

[@Hi_Just_Fred]

I didn't love this, but I also really didn't like the DCAMU either. Both had their moments, but overall never lived up to highs of other animated projects.

[@nerdlingeeksly5192]

"those movies are terrible." Yes, yes they are.

[@rigorgrynn]

So sad the JS didn't have sandman or wildcat. I get they were more street level than wartime. But still, love those two.

[@yoboimichproductionsinc.2948]

I kinda liked it too bad they ended it

[@VexedForest]

As much as I like Jensen Ackles, especially as Jason Todd, I never really liked his Batman.

[@dynaguy3]

Did you just say Invincible has good animation? Lol

[@gamecitysavior2910]

I like his videos but not crazy about his voice. And what's wrong with this art style, the other universe had same face disease & couldn't keep a character design for more than one frame.

[@Jebbtube]

That's a nice way of saying "WB wanted to toss the rest of the DC properties in the trash so they could shill their new series."

[@karimdavis7065]

WB never deserved DC

[@cg_spiritedensemble]

I never watched the Tomorrowverse nor the DCAMU, mostly cause I was in my MCU phase when they were coming out & the DC animated stuff that wasn't the DCAU just didn't interest me. Your videos on both series helped me understand what I missed out on (Or what I'm still missing out on since I still haven't watched any of it yet outside of video essays. 🙁)

[@TheOneWhoDings]

Pretty forgettable films, the combination of the writing and the animation style and colors felt hollow and cold.

[@DaniG._.German]

The Forgettableverse.

[@Snikit]

Didn’t watch a lot of these. They just weren’t very engaging.