THE TOP 10 PLAYERS IN THE WORLD

[@imESAM]

THIS WAS RECORDED BEFORE SMASH WORLD TOUR SO ID BUMP ME OFF AND PUT KOLA IN TOP 10 INSTEAD

[@Ryan_Austin]

Very humble

[@saute7447]

🤣

[@redduck6483]

Accurate

[@rileymac2191]

I’d personally move Kola to 8th or 9th, but I feel you are still at least 10th. I feel that it’s hard to argue the best pika below 10. Only Maister locks you up, and that’s a matchup specific thing. You’re definitely better than Marss, but I’d say you’re even better than Light.

[@christianokoye9491]

@@rileymac2191 Marss has better results than Kola so I don't know why you'd say that.

[@shuumatsunojoshua]

Honorable mention: Lvl 9 Kazuya

[@Clefargle]

Don’t forget about lvl 8 Zelda!

[@bigyosh109]

LMAO true

[@bloodylegend5176]

What about my bowser amibo?

[@mleon21the1]

You mean Riddle

[@serge6328]

@@mleon21the1 lvl 9 kazuya so much better than riddles

[@grizhawk2283]

I swear there are 25 top 10 players

[@Rspknlikeab0ssxd]

Couldn't have said it better myself lmao

[@caw64]

It’s a lot like Ultimate itself lol

[@oveia4671]

25? Bro, there 30 players in too 10

[@DrWavy-fq2qk]

Definitely gonna need that top 100 pgr cause 50 ain’t gonna cut it anymore with all this talent across the globe

[@masterwings50]

Yep theres like 100 top 10 players but theres only 10 slots so yea

[@lyonrieve1]

I feel like nobody deserves it more than Leo either, humble beginnings, humble personality and humble winner. His pop off worthy ratio is so high if he were a pop off kind of guy he'd have glutes of steel from all of the jumping from chairs he'd be doing.

[@str8454]

i watch him a lot - he is not SO humble. sometimes he's not humble enough in my opinion. but that's not bad - he is ambitious and knows the worth of himself. his fans idolize him too much but overall i'm sure he's a good person and 100% deserves the spotlight.

[@nukecleo]

@@str8454 when would you say hes not humble enough? i only remember him popping off for that reverse 3-0 on tweek after summit.

[@str8454]

@@nukecleo i'm talking about things he tells during his streams. like "i'm not the best cause i haven't played much this year, if i practice - i'm the best, sure" etc and i repeat - that's OK for an ambitious person, a sportsman, a winner. especially that's ok when you can confirm it with your results (and leo does it - for now). humility and modesty don't win tourneys. but don't make him a saint... plz

[@str8454]

@@nukecleo "popping off for that reverse 3-0 on tweek after summit" on riptide. and i don't see anything bad in pop offs if you show respect to the opponent afterwards

[@skuttler1796]

He says funny, not particularly humble things in some of his videos - and that's fine. I feel like the community has painted Leo in a certain light and now that's all it sees, but he's just human. He is pretty humble, but even if he's not always so I don't see a problem.

[@nonachyourbusiness1164]

Marss' placement was brutal but yeah. He hasn't been his past self and sadly I don't see him pulling it together anymore. He's too deep in the content grind

[@briteboy4749]

I think a lot of people just got way better and figured the game out more over quarantine. There has definitely been a meta shift due to that era. I think given some time he'll start to improve again. He's playing the catch up game rn. Funny to see how light has adjusted though. Didn't play at all during online era and has only improved since offline came back.

[@dirp_dcb9531]

Meanwhile esam

[@briteboy4749]

@@dirp_dcb9531 Esams punish game was getting really fleshed out pre-online era! Unfortunately, Covid came at a time that really hurt him because he was really starting to optimize his punish game and pika is really not able to play the same online. Coming back to offline however, not much has changed for him, he's still a relatively inconsistent player (I also tend to think it's the Pika syndrome) with some fantastic peaks, like beating Leo and winning Glitch. There obviously was a little bit of an adjustment for sure, getting used to timings again, but it seems like Esam and most players got reacquainted relatively quickly to offline. As of rn, Esam's punish game is better than ever, definitely was labbing the newfound pika tech during online era. Unfortunately, as great of a player as Esam is, he's always been kind of a wildcard in ultimate. He either plays completely cracked and beats players like Leo, or he loses to some random outside of the top 10 somewhere in the 15-25 pgr range. And to quote the man himself, it's all "consistency, consistency, consistency". I do think that he has the potential to absolutely be higher placed in the top 10 range, I just think there needs to be more time on the definitive version of the game so that he can get to a point where he just plays "perfectly" in all his games. As it is, that SD from SWT was absolutely tragic and tbh Pika has by far the HARDEST confirms in the game so it doesn't shock me to see him whiff and die at times. Once he can iron out his execution better and work on his neutral a little more he'll be an absolute menace. Truth be told, despite Pika being arguably the best character in the game, she's really hard to play in tournament at a high level. Straight up, statistically speaking that's why there's literally only 2-3 relevant Pikachu's with really only Esam getting REALLY good results. These factors also come down to predictable pressure on shield/falling aerials, ridiculously hard confirms compared to the rest of the cast, and the fact that Pika, imo, is the most punish-dependent character in the entire game, and if you are not killing off of your punish or pushing your advantage tremendously this character really starts to struggle. That can be really difficult in a game that has a massive cast of characters with various tools for a wide variety of option select as well as a very competitive player base. That being said, we all know and have seen what the ceiling can be for Esam and the potential is definitely there for him to reach it. Now that the definitive version of the game is out and there won't be any more patches, we are really going to see all the optimizations and niche knowledge of interactions and matchups. So I'm excited to see how everyone develops moving forward. There's honestly room for this to be just about anyone's game. It'll be interesting to see how the top 11 or 12 shuffle around as any of those players have the potential to place high in the top 10.

[@dirp_dcb9531]

@@briteboy4749 wow 😳 it was a joke btw

[@briteboy4749]

@@dirp_dcb9531 I wasn't offended or arguing or anything, was just looking to chat the subject is all.

[@_Jay_Singh]

Each of the top 11 players mains a different character.... This game is amazing

[@funnipan3696]

Unlike legit all the previous games Where 1-3 characters just DOMINATE Smash Ultimate is the most universally balanced :)

[@A_cracker14]

even though I agree it kinda sucks that only true gods at the game can win tournaments with lower than high tier characters (rip my dr mario dreams)

[@AndreasSaag]

Of ALL these 16 players’ main characters only Roy and Min-Min are found with two players. And since the Min-Min nerf i think Protobanham and Dabuz both might drop her. Counting mains and secondaries there are still a big diversity in characters. I bet if you collect character representation data from all top 16 games in majors during 2021 then almost half the roster of 90 characters would be represented. I don’t think people can realize what an outstanding achievement in game balance that is!

[@nit0134]

When MKLeo is in a tourney everyone just playing for 2nd place

[@jackster4788]

Except when esams there

[@yusuf8938]

@@jackster4788 ESAM usually doesn't even get to 2nd place lol. Loses to other guys in top 16 😂

[@raaseraphic]

@@yusuf8938 still spanked leo

[@jackster4788]

Well Esam was off that tournament but he still destroyed Leo in glitch

[@tronontouch9925]

@@jackster4788 doesn’t matter if Edam can’t get there

[@jamesd1586]

I honestly love that Leo is so good that he is uncontested number 1 in the world. It makes it so much more exiting when people do beat him

[@ShawFujikawa]

It’d be more exciting if the #1 spot were heavily contested and you didn’t have to always keep rooting for Leo’s opponent to get a close match though lol.

[@deltastudios6632]

@@ShawFujikawa I personally think it's better that way. If the number one was constantly shifting, then the position wouldn't have as much meaning. With an uncontested best player, it always feels like the opponent is trying to take down the final boss.

[@MrThisguy27]

Esam just beat him at glitch like a month or so ago

[@paoracampbell3127]

@@MrThisguy27 Leo is "beatable" but it's not up for debate. At this point in time, he is the undisputed best player in the world

[@quadZ_z]

It's interesting that in Smash there always seem to be god tier player(s). Ultimate has Leo, Sm4sh had ZeRo, Melee had the 5 gods (some of whom dropped/replaced by some new guys recently). I wonder if that's the case in other esports?

[@Godlysound]

Spargo is currently in a phase remeniscent of when nairo kept getting second to zero over and over.

[@davidl6325]

You mean hbox second to armada on repeat

[@Matthew.Morcos]

At least Nairo and Hbox had won majors at that point. As far as I know, Sparg0 is still completely winless.

[@wrenkall3966]

@@Matthew.Morcos Who’s the person consistently placing higher than him? Isn’t his name like MKLeo or something?

[@mightguy3578]

@@wrenkall3966 yes

[@kevlar427]

So mkleo is hella impressive, but I think we all need to mention that sparg0 is 15. I can't wait to see what this player can do.

[@Genis-Vell]

Heir to the throne

[@grape_nation]

It’s just like Leo when he first appeared on the scene.

[@kevlar427]

@@grape_nation I know that's what makes it exciting!

[@seth8933]

For real. Really puts things into perspective when you see how hard top players like Light and Leo have to play in order to beat him and how hard Light popped off after beating a 15 year old haha. Crazy good.

[@anthonyfernandez7553]

This was definitely a well put together list. As a Marss fan it sucks to see him not top 10, but I totally get it since he hasn't been playing to his potential

[@greenchucklesjr]

Honestly, I think that his placement is accurate, he just hasn't quite hit his stride since offline. give it 6 months, I think he's back up there.

[@anthonyfernandez7553]

@@greenchucklesjr yeah, I didn't do a very good job of making it clear in my original comment but I agree with the placing as well

[@redfieldwong717]

Or maybe people are catching up?? Marss fans always making excuses. So others can't be better without someone saying oh messed or he's not himself or what not

[@G.dot_]

@@redfieldwong717 is hard to say catch-up when we went through an online era. If COVID didn’t exist and he pulled these type of placements then yeah you can say people are catching up

[@dash4life120]

@@redfieldwong717 no its just that we have seen him do so much better and that he really is just rusty compared to how he used to play

[@leonardomeza3870]

Super happy to see Elegant doing so good recently. Him being able to get such crazy results with luigi is absolutely amazing

[@kyurei4478]

He's definitely a model player for character specialists.

[@wheresmyshield176]

Inspired me to main Luigi. Grinds my gears to see all these guys with carry characters.

[@wheresmyshield176]

@@1stbestpokemaster when games are about balance, do I not get to complain when it's not? That's why patches happen? When a character can shut out more than half of the roster with a bigger advantage, is that not being carried?

[@kyurei4478]

I would just say they prioritize the fun they have with a certain character more, not that they are straight up "stupid". It just means you'll struggle more but if you're confident enough in your character to succeed and ready to work harder, then just do it (also everyone know top tiers so it can be smarter sometimes). On top of that, some people try to play top tiers just because they are top tiers and simply don't succeed to be that good or gave up because they ultimately don't have any fun to play the game. And forcing you to play a character you don't enjoy whatsoever to the point that you don't have motivation to progress and to play, that's what I call stupid.

[@kyurei4478]

@@1stbestpokemaster Yes, I totally agree with you on that. It's your own choice at the end of the day so work for it. What I don't agree on however is not having the possibility to complain at all about your character (but not being a cry baby of course) and to demand for him/her/it to be buffed (in a honest way of course, not something crazy). Even if the game is very balanced, improvements can always be made. That's why I'm more an advocate of buffing the weaker characters instead of nerfing the strongests. I don't imply it's what you mean but It basically makes no sense not wanting the game to be more balanced and saying "just play top tiers" or it would just mean cut half of the roster instead of improving it in this case, which would simply be stupid.

[@elisankar8567]

Honestly, one of the people I really want to see make it is Riddles. I want to see him break Kazuya’s limits as a character because Kazuya is insane, and so is Riddles

[@marcosalvarezmorga6378]

Agree

[@pancrasio08]

he represents all people who loves the old school fighting games.

[@jackberding7654]

I think this PGR should be top 100. There are so many players that are performing incredibly well in the US and overseas that deserve accolades. Either that or smash should have an elo system like chess lol

[@yuhhh2851]

im hoping void will rlly just shit on people cuz he is imo the best person to watch. his sheik amazes me everytime and he shows that sheiks meta game is still evolving and its just amazing

[@gameandflogchannel]

Another fun Sheik to watch is Eim, who has been doing really good recently in Japan

[@Turnpost2552]

shiek is not worth it edit Shiek is worth the hype, but the results are depressing.

[@ChrisProfrock]

@@Turnpost2552 still fun to watch.

[@Turnpost2552]

@@ChrisProfrock Totallly Agree with you.

[@cakelord3002]

I’m really biased against sheik because of the mount of times I have lost to that character online same with Roy and puff

[@wuzzle6448]

Feel like Shuton deserves an honourable mention at least.

[@kazmanyarbrough2740]

I’m so sad nairo doesn’t compete anymore. I genuinely believe if he was still competing and was actually serious he’d still be up here :/

[@neestolgic6459]

fr

[@joshphillips2383]

Let's not give up hope yet. Who knows if he returns he may challenge Ned for the best Sephiroth.

[@redlikerubes_]

@@joshphillips2383 Definitely no contest, Nairo is crazy good

[@marcosalvarezmorga6378]

Hahahaha

[@showmeyourmoves8551]

He is still banned on twitch. He have no choice

[@ohjonny95]

Doesn't Kameme also have a winning record on Leo? Dude gets forgotten so fast, but again, great video, bout to get into it

[@Minister_of_Magic_1997]

Kameme has one win on mkleo. But kameme consistently loses to other players in Japan that mkleo beats pretty easily. Thing is that mkleo has a megaman issue. Not that kameme is better

[@ONLY_RR7]

I think he was only talking about winning records post pandemic

[@softelocke491]

I think he means winning records in 2 or more games

[@SeriousStriker]

Post-pandemic only.

[@briteboy4749]

@@Minister_of_Magic_1997 Was it Kameme or Proto that got the MegaMan win on Leo? I thought it was Proto but I guess I'm remembering wrong

[@bigman8733]

The consistency factor is definitely on top. So many top players I was used to seeing excel pre pandemic have been very inconsistent since coming back. It makes sense, but there’s been a good amount of tournaments since coming back and many of them are still struggling and I didn’t expect it

[@zenko3906]

Marrs lol

[@TheMedicinalMan]

Gotta factor in patches during online era. Everyone who thought they understood their characters nerfs have been experiencing them for real for the first time. I feel like Marss is having a character crisis rn.

[@vilmer2001]

really well put together list id say, naturally with SWT and mainstage the result will be shuffling around a lot but i agree with just about every placement for when it was recorded. really fun getting top player insight on all these incredible players, id be down for more of these videos down the line as the players go up and down and id also be down for a 21-12 list as well. (leon is top20 free btw)

[@dechuggs9129]

I haven’t followed competitive smash or smash in general since the pandemic but wasn’t Samsora number 2 or did he quit or something?

[@camusreviews6877]

I feel like Shuton is an honorable mention, he has been placing crazy well

[@SeriousStriker]

Atelier too.

[@voodooedits785]

They’re top 20

[@taxman7617]

Leo beating everyone with Byleth makes me wonder how good he would be if he only focused on his Joker. Personally, I think he would still be the best, but by a larger mile, like to the point of almost NO ONE being able to beat him. Its all headcanon of course, but thats what I think would happen.

[@vb5281]

Leo was focusing only on Joker before and was still beat 3-0 by Kurama, 3-0 by Marss, beaten by Samsora as well...Of course despite this, he was still winning the large majority of tournament...exactly like today he’s winning everything with Byleth. I honestly don’t see the gap. Leo can make any character works and I even think Joker has been largely overrated thanks to him, no other Joker got the same results, in the entire world, literally no one, Tweek and Void tried and dropped him to play Diddy and Sheik instead, Zackray got overclassed by Proto and did recently better with Sora, and even Sharp got beaten by Kirbykid (Krool)...Joker is still a really good character but the entirety of his good results all come from Leo. Leo can make any top 20 character looking godlike, that’s the only takeaway we should keep in mind imo.

[@taxman7617]

@@vb5281 I still think he can do so much better with a better character. Leo is doing good with Byleth because he is godlike, but if he focused on a better character, I believe he would not suffer matchups that are hard. Its logical to think Leo will do better if he focused on a top tier rather then Byleth. But again, its all my opinion.

[@Xenonfuji]

@@taxman7617 Character enjoyment probably plays a huge factor here. Leo likes playing byleth a lot, and if he focused on a better character but he doesn't enjoy playing them as much as byleth, I'm not sure he would do as well simply because he doesn't enjoy the character as much

[@Junr777]

@@taxman7617 I think the reason he plays Byleth a lot is because he finds them more fun than Joker. Sure, Joker is better than Byleth, but that won't make a difference if the player playing them isn't as passionate about the character. Of course, Leo still plays Joker, but just not as much as Byleth. You can't assume someone godlike at one character will be of that same skill with another.

[@carolinemosher8486]

@@taxman7617 what makes a character top tier or not? Im sorry im new To competitive scene and I never would have thought joker was the best character XD Ps : I main roy

[@chapystick_]

Marss honorable mention?? You mean self proclaimed KZbin titled “best player in the world”?? Impossible

[@quadZ_z]

It's his fault for playing a such a sucky character lol

[@theodeziel567]

Shuton deserves an honorable mention i think. Not as consistent but greats peaks

[@windrunner7773]

One MkLeo is the GOAT. Two hoping that Kome will break into the top ten in the near future

[@ウィステリア-c4o]

完璧なランキングだと思います！！ ESAM最高！！！

[@jasonkennedy6570]

Really love this list honestly! For me I really love Riddles , and people who just play shoto characters . Riddles been killing it imo , especially recently with VG tournament, and super excited to see what’s more to come

[@showmeyourmoves8551]

Kazuya and terry were not shotos. What are you on?

[@Kaz999998]

I still think it's crazy how Leo does so well playing Byleth; a character almost unanimously underrated by all the pros. I think it just goes to show that Leo truly is a skilled player, and it definitely vindicates him from the notion that he's carried by Joker. Tbh tho, I feel like once you hit top 50 or 100, tier lists don't really apply there.

[@jxgalaxy3810]

they apply the most there. A casual ganon can beat a casual pikachu. A pgr ganon would never beat a pgr pikachu for example

[@Kaz999998]

@@jxgalaxy3810 Then by that logic ESAM would be #1 wouldn't he since he uses a top 1-3 (depending on who you ask) character? The people he loses to don't have MU-advantage over him usually and will either be even or losing.

[@linuszarrouk2004]

@@Kaz999998 Pikachu is a very difficult character and sets are not only won by match up but also by skill. In casual the tier lists look completely different, for example ganon has high range and damage output while Pikachu combos and recovery are too hard for casuals to do. on a casual tier list I would put ganon over pika

[@jxgalaxy3810]

@@Kaz999998 no because the people above him use characters that wont hard lose to pika like ganon does in my example. People above him use characters like Joker, Fox, Min Min, ROB, and G&W as examples, meaning at that point when match ups arent overwhelmingly in a players favour, skill is what matters

[@Kaz999998]

@@jxgalaxy3810 nah, I don't think so as much tbh. Tea does great as Pacman, a character that during the first few years past launch was considered low to mid tier. Akikikusu(?) is a hero main, a character mostly considered mid/mid-high and beat some of the best players in Japan that had highly unfavorable at worst to even at best matchups. Tweak beat Leo with Diddy, Leo is doing exceptionally well with Byleth; both characters considered mid tier. Hell, even Peanut, a Little Mac Main is making moves in tournaments using a bottom tier character. On the flip side you have people who play top-tiers and high tiers exclusively (Marss, Light, Cosmos, etc.) and have inconsistent performance in tournaments. And again, ESAM uses the (contentious) best character in the game, and while I'm not trying to downplay his skill level as a top 10-15 player (I'm subscribed and like his content/playstyle obviously), but clearly tiers aren't as important as people make them out to be. Honestly, I'm not saying matchups don't matter at all at a high level, I think they certainly do; but I think what matters more is the player. The best analogy I can give is guitar; you can have some no name purchase the highest level Gibson guitar, complimented by a boutique tube amp, and a killer studio; but it all doesn't mean anything if that person isn't a skilled player or a good compositional writer. Take EVH for example; dude literally Frankensteined a guitar from some middle of the road type parts but revolutionized rock/metal and is considered one of the greatest guitarists of all time; not because of his gear, but his skill and songwriting capabilities. Back to tier lists, I'm sure the only ones who really take those things super seriously, like as fact, are casuals and scrubs anyway. Obviously they are helpful, but I think ultimately it's up to the player to shape perception of the character. At least with Smash, I feel that there's more balance and leeway for people to change up their perception of character potential; it's not like other FGs where tiers are pretty gridlocked where they are due to obvious matchup layouts. (Even then, you still have exceptions to the rule; take Rangchu from Tekken; won EVO with a character considered bottom-tier / low-tier. Even the game's developer was shocked.)

[@bloodylegend5176]

Hello Mr Esam. Where would you put Riddles? I think he’s really good

[@TheKABE09]

Well, Kola was HM and at the Smash World Tour Qualifier he completely dominated Riddles. Maybe top 30-40

[@ariasariamis712]

What makes me sad is that Void isn't here. He's been getting so good with Sheik over quarantine and did well at Summit, but then hasn't competed in Ultimate since, (I think anyways). Anyone know why?

[@jaceee4154]

The quarantine made people realize streaming and creating content is a better way to earn a living. They earn more and don’t have to grind/travel all the time. Competitive smash pays a pitiful amount of money to justify it as a job

[@ariasariamis712]

@@jaceee4154 Yeah I can get that. But did Void state that he's not competing anymore, cuz i completely missed it in that case.

[@ariasariamis712]

@@jaceee4154 Or are you making a logical assumption basically?

[@BIGAMBERFAN]

@@ariasariamis712 he never said he won’t compete anymore, but when asked about why he doesn’t attend a particular tournament that’s what his answer is. he says it doesn’t pay enough, and he usually ends up losing money when factoring in travel expenses. he says he does like to compete but he doesn’t have a drive to be the best in the world. he’s content where he is, and just has fun with the game basically while making a good amount of money off content creation

[@DJprofessorK]

@@BIGAMBERFAN thats definitely not a top 10 mentality but I'm assuming he could care less

[@ChrisProfrock]

I'm curious to see where Nairo sits if he ends up going back to tournaments.

[@raygrenade1697]

Top 5 for sure

[@Knucklebreaking]

My guy is like a secret boss everyone forgets about.

[@gdawgs101]

Probably top 10. Only reason I say probably is because Sephiroth is not nearly as good as pre-patch Palutena. Nairo has pretty much only been playing elite smash for over a year and he pretty much went even offline against Light and I believe won more games than he lost against Void and Cosmos on stream this past weekend. Dude's clearly still got it.

[@ChrisProfrock]

@@gdawgs101 Yeah he's definitely still good offline. I could see him not really wanting to attend tournaments for a while though with how some people are. I'm sure he could play someone aside from Sephiroth and Palutena competitively though, maybe Aegis.

[@gdawgs101]

@@ChrisProfrock I mean he literally can't compete in tournaments because of the Twitch ban. But yeah even if he got unbanned, idk if he would want to come back to competing or not. He's said several times on stream he's not really interested right now. But I definitely think if he had the opportunity and the desire, he's absolutely capable of being a top 5 player again As for the Sephiroth part I think he would just play Sephiroth, he says that's who he has the most fun playing nowadays, even if he's not like a super optimal pick. It's kinda like the Leo Byleth thing

[@azura2552]

Don’t worry ESAM, I was a Sparg0 doubter too. I knew he was good, I thought he would do well, but people were saying he’d be top ten or higher. Didn’t believe that. Now, there is no way I can say he isn’t the second best player in the world. He is Leo 2.0 and there will be no stopping him when he reaches his potential, which is approaching so so so quickly.

[@joshgaboriault9116]

Gonna have to change this and put elegant up more after mainstage

[@HackX1824]

ESAM has gotten so much funnier than the last time I watched him congrats my dude

[@thedazzeledone]

I love watching your matches and light’s match as I play pika and fox and you guys taught me so much, also I would love to see Riddles in the honorable mentions

[@sergiozl10]

Anoying af characters.

[@thedazzeledone]

@@sergiozl10 but fun and s-tier characters

[@fluffyadit7899]

You did a great job on this list! :D Also, do you play Samus? Or do you just like Metroid in particular?

[@markthemighty3]

He wants to play Samus but Samus isnt as good as Pikachu in smash

[@ojutay8375]

He's a Metroid fan. His tag is his name plus Samus.

[@lyxertt]

"I think I could do well, but I haven't played him yet." This absolutely did not age well. xD

[@danielmendez3119]

Awosome video as always ESAM! I would want to show my current top 10 ordered after SWT NA East: 1st.- 🇲🇽 Mkleo 2nd.- 🇲🇽 Spargo 3rd.- 🇺🇸 Tweek 4th.-🇲🇽 Maister 5th.- 🇯🇵 Zackray 6th.- 🇯🇵 Tea 7th.- 🇫🇷 Gluttony 8th.- 🇺🇸 Light 9th.- 🇺🇸 Marss 10th.- 🇺🇸 Kola

[@Turnpost2552]

Lol no Esam? You do realize Esam destroyed Leo just recently. Light beat Maister and Spargo using Fox. Like let that sink in. Glutonney uses Wario. You just camp and then waft. I would place him below Joker(Samus). my order would be Tweek Jakal (A guy who uses Wolf or Ghetto Fox) Light Esam Leo Mars Maister Spargo Kola Joker (Samus) Nairo

[@Manuel-gg4yk]

spargo is a fake player. I shouldn't be mad he gets second that often because it is more painful

[@taxman7617]

@@Turnpost2552 What is this? 😬😬😬😬😬 Holy crap this list is just... so bad...

[@Turnpost2552]

@@taxman7617 explain?

[@taxman7617]

@@Turnpost2552 Ill just tell you that Nairo, Joker and Jakal dont have NEAR CLOSE to enough results to be in the top 10... like... at all...

[@victorhugomoran9885]

My top 10 1. Mkleo 2. Spargo 3. Tweek 4. Maister 5. Tea 6. Zackary 7. Glutonny 8. Marss 9. Ligth 10. Esam

[@rave6769]

Light*

[@coolersspaceship7964]

Just asking, but if you could extend your list, where would you put kola

[@victorhugomoran9885]

@@coolersspaceship7964🤔 11. Kola 12. Dabuz 13. Elegant 14. Void 15. KEN 16. Leon 17.Dark wizzy 18.Riddles 19. Wadi 20. Kameme

[@coolersspaceship7964]

@@victorhugomoran9885 not a bad list honestly

[@voodooedits785]

@@victorhugomoran9885 this is such a poor list

[@bignate6619]

It’s crazy with Sparg0 being 2nd on this planet. He hasn’t won a supermajor. I want nothing more then for him to do so.

[@joey5745]

What do you and I have in common with MK Leo? We don’t get 3rd place at Majors/Super Majors

[@adrianpr1501]

I have insane respect for leo. Not only because he doesn't brag about him being the best player by far. He also mains a character that is definetly not even a high tier. the fact he doesn't need a broken ass character to win. makes me have respect for him. kind of like little mac and Ganondorf mains. And he only mains top tiers as secondaries.

[@carolinemosher8486]

I hate little mac main. I know it's me thats bad for not punishing him Well, but on wifi hes such a monster lmao

[@M9Divine]

Byleth is high tier

[@adrianpr1501]

@@M9Divine yeah I guess he could be, But he is not top tier. And if he is high tier he is probably at the bottom. As when you think of other smash pro players like ESAM or Marss. they play the character because they are good, Not specifically because they like playing as them. But I can tell MKLeo has an insane amount of fun when playing byleth.

[@adrianpr1501]

@@carolinemosher8486 As a little mac main I can tell you the best way to punish him is just staying on a platform. He can't do anything except up b. And that leaves him pretty vulnerable. On Final destination though it's kind of hard. I guess just try to send him offstage the most you can but still. You have to be able to edgeguard or he will make it back. Most of the time actually. his recovery is pretty good if you remove the fact Side B doesn't reset after getting hit. Since his air speed is fast.

[@corndogguy2373]

@@adrianpr1501 I completely agree, I feel like byleth was always thought to be mid tier very unanimously until Leo carried the character. Leo being good≠High tier character

[@megaman7799]

I feel like the reason Leo wins so much with Byleth is because: 1. Tiers don't actually matter in this game aside from theoreticals. 2. I feel like one of Leo's biggest in-game strengths is his spacing and Byleth plays perfectly into that. Side note, I think this is how rankings should be. Who is the best in the world besides Leo? Leo's just on another level entirely.

[@NarcissistMargarine]

Marss is my fav ultimate player hands down, but yeah, he's been out of it lately. I used to place the guy as a top 5. I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed he's lost some of that consistency.

[@redfieldwong717]

No this mind set is so toxic. Maybe just everyone else has gotten better. People always excusing marss about for being tired or not as good takes away the hard work others put in the game. Like seriously is no one allowed to win without people having to make excuses???

[@NarcissistMargarine]

@@redfieldwong717 okay fair. I think in that case then maybe marss was out grinding his KZbin channel. Working on that a bunch. And there's no shame in that, I'm not putting the guy down. Maybe a bunch of people used quarantine to refine their skills while marss was on a different grind. The outcome is the same though, I don't think that's really toxic. It's not like I lost respect for the guy

[@G.dot_]

@@redfieldwong717 “toxic”? maybe you just hating

[@yashu9700]

was this made after or before swt?

[@saute7447]

I’d say before🤣

[@obamaorb7426]

Before, he says in the pinned comment that kola is for sure higher lmao

[@Trattt]

I'm just happy you didn't praise sparg0 for his age because the ones that do are incompetent

[@missing6747]

@@Manuel-gg4yk are you the same Manuel guy who always complains about that character? Did your other account get banned for being too toxic?

[@ajviolet]

@@Manuel-gg4yk cringe take

[@obamaorb7426]

@@Manuel-gg4yk It's only game, why do u heff to be mad?

[@ElChicoBush]

Lol, what happened to Manuel's commentary? I know who he is

[@missing6747]

@@ElChicoBush he was just calling spargo bad for playing pyra mythra, he probably deleted it.

[@jyrrin]

4:05 unexpected af LMAO - thought that was a pikachu

[@autobotanist]

Random question, but whatever happened to Samsora? Did he retire or something?

[@bulletcat8]

I think he got banned? Stuff about the Nairo-Captain Zack situation, not really sure what he did tho

[@zenko3906]

He got banned from tourneys and kept quiet about the zack nairo situation despite having information about it. He lied to cover zack's side of the situation.

[@autobotanist]

@@bulletcat8 ah okay, I didn't know he was involved in that situation

[@jayymorris5285]

scandal after scandal

[@isaacchen6927]

Yo didnt Marss get 3rd in Riptide and almost make a comeback against leo in a 2-0 deficit, literally coming down to last stock???

[@raghavarun9275]

marss got 3rd at low tide losing to leo and dabuz but he almost beat leo on game 4 in a comeback so that may be what you’re thinking of

[@isaacchen6927]

Yea Soz lol I meant low tide

[@submarinesailor5140]

I was surprised to see dabuz as only an honorable mention. I also didnt realize elegant had so many high placings.

[@Neon-qi6tq]

I’m waiting for more esam tourneys, I know you’ll cement yourself in top 10 :)

[@Ryan_Austin]

13:35 a new era of the 5 gods

[@guts1830]

Zackray winning with sora is crazyyy what a absolute king

[@mexxicandan1132]

I wish Nario still played in these tournaments , probably top 10 for sure

[@corndogguy2373]

I would say that he would need a while before he gets back into it, a few months at least but his talent would bring him a very long way.

[@GoodMeyers]

Guarantee I'm more consistent than MkLeo. I always lose B)

[@kyurei4478]

I'm even more consistent than Leo at not losing since I don't play ;) .

[@briteboy4749]

What is everyone's favorite players and characters to watch? Really miss Zackray Rob, loving Mkleo Byleth, and loving Sparg0 Aegis!

[@Kaz999998]

MKLeo; Byleth/Joker Riddles: Terry/Kazuya Blucas: Lucas Ravenking: Ike Akikusu: Hero ZeRo (sue me): Cloud/Diddy Bestness: Ness Nairo: Ganondorf Jul: Robin Lol, basically all the characters I play I like watching others kick aßß as 😂

[@briteboy4749]

@@Kaz999998 Juul is so sick. And I gotta watch more Akikusu, only recently started hearing about him

[@KevSB07]

Just to help with the difficult spelling, it’s “Akakikusu” There’s three K’s if that helps to remember

[@KevSB07]

I’m liking a lot of the character picks recently. I think for each player… Leo, absolutely the Byleth, love seeing the professor I’ve already fallen in love with Zackray’s Sora I wish Dabuz would pull out the Rosaluma more Excited to see more of Riddles’ Terry Sparg0’s Aegis is really cool Kola is so fun to watch with both Roy and Cloud Light’s fox is incredible And I think everyone’s now become a massive fan of BassMage’s puff and SkyJay’s and Sol’s Incineroars

[@AK_.]

I already know this is gonna be fun! I've been keeping a docs document of the current best players (slightly opinionated) for a while now. It'll certainly be fun to see how similar my list is to yours!

[@teacup2686]

What is the conclusion?

[@ok-qd2rd]

What is with Samsora? What happend to him? Wasnt he 2nd best player? He was so cool

[@nautilus2342]

In the whole 'situatuon' that came out last year, it turns out that he was a pretty awful influence on CaptainZack, so he retired (and was banned from several tournaments)

[@ok-qd2rd]

@@nautilus2342 oh Shit 🥲

[@mitchellmariacher254]

He covered up a sexual assault case.

[@ok-qd2rd]

@@Manuel-gg4yk yeah kinda true. Spargo goated but Samsora was next level

[@obamaorb7426]

@@Manuel-gg4yk Lmao it's funny af seeing you everywhere shit talking aegis for some reason. Keep the hate going lmao

[@oozorahaomaenomono]

Where are shuton and atelier?????

[@flare99]

I hope riddles gets at least top 15, not only did he get 2nd at swt with terry mainly but he is Mr. I'm gonna fuck you up with kazuya

[@teamTortoiseAndTurtle]

How about shuton?

[@soufien1178]

4:04 dabuz doing sora's short hop

[@michaelpark8811]

See's Kola edit in the comments... "Perfectly balanced, as all things should be..."

[@aoeu256]

Whatever happened to Samsora did he stop playing?

[@woooyeahfunkytime4088]

from what i know he was kinda ousted from the community and banned from most tourneys for his involvement and lack of transparency/accountability in the nairo situation

[@Blankslyter]

I think Spargo is straight up comming for that number 1 slot soon. He just keeps getting better and he already is so good.

[@yusuf8938]

1. Mkleo 2. Tweek 3. Spargo 4. Zackray 5. Maister 6. Gluttony 7. Proto 8. Tea 9. Light 10. Kola

[@harrisonrosemont]

is proto really that good?

[@elchupacabra1406]

@@harrisonrosemont Yes, his Min Min would actually body alot of top NA players lol

[@harrisonrosemont]

@@elchupacabra1406 oh damn i didn’t know that, last time i saw him play he used lucina

[@yusuf8938]

@@harrisonrosemont He uses both pretty regularly.

[@DukeG3]

Where/when did the new Japan PR rankings get released?

[@anthonyturbide9869]

I would love to see gluto travel more or even move to the U.S I feel like he could become a top 5 or even a top 3 player really fast he’s just so good

[@MakeAmericaLiftAgain]

We all know the uncontested top spot belongs to Peanut.

[@unchris]

Looking at mainstage 2021 top 16, 9 out 11 from your top 11 are listed there (zackray and proto aren't here, they didn't play). Also Lui$, Dabuz and Kola from your honorable mentions are listed. Good and accurate assessment!

[@braylenswain4017]

Why isnt Stroder an honorable mention? I know that techniaccly he hasnt played in a while, but he played not that long ago against Lui$ and only barely lost at game 5. I feel like Stroder deserves at least top 15

[@nachot6592]

It is so cool that there are no top players who are jerks. Remember Melee? It was only salt and jerks. Toxic pop offs, controller spikes, and so on.

[@justinleung5745]

Zain is no jerk. And Axe is arguable for the nicest guy in the community. But I can definitely see where you’re coming from.

[@Kjernekar]

From your descirption Melee sounds way more fun and interesting.

[@nachot6592]

@@Kjernekar If you like ridiculous soap operas, yeah, maybe.

[@kylewood4488-b9r]

The Leffens of Smash

[@kylewood4488-b9r]

@@Kjernekar It's alot more toxic. I feel as though Melee and Smash 4 were both the peaks of Salt in the series. Brawl had its salty moments but I remember double the amount in both Melee and 4

[@mysticsquirtle5109]

Do tournaments before pandemic count? Such as Genesis, LMBM, Frostbite?

[@wheresmyshield176]

It's been so long and the way games work, people ONLY get better. I too wonder if people forgot about the utter cheek clapping Prodigy gave him. Leo is #1 so that set was forever engrained in my memory to the day I die.

[@RBOGU_LTL]

mkleo es ridículamente muy bueno, se podría decir que esta roto, pero mas allá de eso impresiona lo consistente que es!! un prodigio del smash sin dudas, seguro le pasara lo mismo que a otro GRANDE= ZERO!! que casualmente mkleo venció y paso testigo. pero la verdad ya se esta viendo un poco de competencia a leo!!

[@maestrodiscipulo]

Ese poco de competencia para leo lo que hace es que leo saque su verdadero potencial el modo ultra instinto en todo su esplendor 🤭💪🇩🇴🇩🇴

[@kyurei4478]

What I find so crazy is you can already tell Spargo will most likely be the next Smash genius for Smash 6, just like MK Leo in his time during Smash 4 days. There is an objectively best player of the game each time.

[@Lead.By.Example]

Can pretty much guarantee you this will absolutely be the last smash game but I know what you’re saying either way

[@kyurei4478]

What Smash fake?

[@Lead.By.Example]

@@kyurei4478 game*

[@kyurei4478]

@@Lead.By.Example Oh I see. We decently can't guarantee in all certainty that it's the last one to be honest but I respect your opinion.

[@justaguy32112]

Idk I feel like not having Kola in the top 10 is kinda wild but I can see it to because of international players

[@coolersspaceship7964]

Agreed

[@gamenwatch6269]

All these players movement with the characters are really clean. Love seeing how creative and amazing these Top 11/ honorable mention players are with characters like Byleth, Luigi, and Roy

[@jeffsiemens4485]

I’d probably have put Marss higher but considering that Esam knows this game and the players 100,000 times better than I do I’d definitely take his word over mine.

[@NickNick-xv6wv]

Marss' results have been really bad recently unfortunately... mainstage he got 17th, 7th at smash con, 3rd at low tide, 7th at glitch and 33rd at Riptide. I hate to say it but his results are horrible right now

[@BC0MBS]

Marrs getting in the honorable mention is not bad for a content creator

[@peregrinehawk8363]

Esam: Spargo has literally just lost to the other super top players. Mattbro: Did you forget about me?

[@iv624]

It’s so crazy how much a leo win would count to this. Like it just makes mkleo seem so bad ass that if you truly want to prove yourself on this list you have need to have had to beaten mkleo.

[@thegnshut9922]

I think the lack of nairo and samsora adds to the rise of new competition

[@willycheez7218]

Did you seriously call G&W underrated 💀 he has to be the most overrated character in the game. Also the Snake player you couldn't think of that made Leo switch from Byleth was AlanDiss

[@gabrielkrows488]

Ok so not deserving of being on the list, not even deserving of HM, but can we talk about DEVOTED, the man that beat leo 3-0 with Incineroar?

[@feraskhemakhem4519]

Does anyone know what shirt he's wearing? I want one

[@AlThePal78]

against me and then the smile lmao I wish Vandetta was on this list because I love the fact he mains ryu and ken my favorite fighting game in the past

[@stxxtgi]

The only main disagreement I have is marss over elegant and spargo being top 3. I'd put spargo at 5 or 6 even though I do recognize his consistency I don't think he's had ample time to be challenged and for his playstyle to be learned like other top players. Also I think marss has more potential than elegant he just has trouble squeezing it out I think offline era had the biggest impact on marss over all top 15 or 20 players and I think it had the least impact on Leo. I’m pretty sure Leo practices by himself and reviews himself and that's why he's so disciplined. He knows what mistakes he's about to make before they happen he's in his own head reading himself and the opponents head reading them at the same time that's what calls for all that consistency

[@orb3796]

Well, this aged badly

[@stxxtgi]

@@orb3796 how so

[@jebstuart3162]

VoiD could be as high as 5 imo. He hasn't played Leo or Tweek since he's been back, and he only lost to some difficult matchups for Sheik in Joker and ZSS

[@mexxicandan1132]

Has he played a lot ? Haven’t kept up with void whatsoever

[@voodooedits785]

Void hasn’t went to anything else so I’ll put him to the side as of now

[@corndogguy2373]

Void placed fairly well at Summit but that is all I have seen from him.

[@Licon746]

Why are there so many good Mexican players all of the sudden

[@isaacalmquist655]

5:16 marss got 3rd at lowtide tho

[@KevSB07]

Didn’t gluto lose to Andresfn (might’ve misspelled that) a Ryu main at temple

[@giohvaniikee0855]

Lowkey Chag is underrated he’s going to get better, he atleast deserves to have an honorable mention

[@GoodViibeGames]

I love this list. Damn near perfect imo thank you for the content

[@SampleMehard]

Leo gives off them Zer0 vibes. Im a tweek fan because i like the toons he plays a bit more. Good list. Not much i would argue with.

[@jayzwrld_]

@@calebking1608 It’s not that big of a gap anymore. Mkleo hasn’t placed lower than second in two years..

[@enriqueaguilar7325]

Love your list ESAM, thank you very much!

[@hydro3739]

Leo (Byleth): Oh my. You are so naive. You know nothing of the pleasures of this universe. Any desire that you have could be instantly fulfilled. But have it your way. Die if you must. But allow me to let you in on a little secret. (anyone in Grand Finals): Huh? What's that? Leo: Well, I haven't even begun to use my real power yet. (anyone in Grand Finals): Yeah well I have some reserved myself. Leo: Yes, I know. Five. Five times what you've displayed, ten at the very most. But I...I've only used one percent of my power. (Smash Announcer): *Joker*

[@ejstephens7918]

He's not in contention for it right now, but I actually think Wadi could come for a spot on this list soon. He was a top 25 player when he barely practiced, and he says he's going to take it serious now. Wadi is talented at the game and if he's going to really give it his all I think he could crack top 10

[@Ryan_Austin]

Wrath is making me actually like Sonic, he played real well in the recent tournament

[@Eman02kG]

Wrath is a GOAT

[@MikuCobraCole]

You'll probably know who Ken is, but in case you don't, check it, one of my fav Sonic mains!

[@Eman02kG]

@@MikuCobraCole personally Sonido is my favorite active Sonic next to Sonix

[@vodktruffel]

You should've done this after mainstage.