The Top 10 Trash Tier Picks in Esports

[@TeamLiquidCS]

Happy to see Teemo on this list.

[@SuperBeckham99]

Hi TL sign me up bruhh :P

[@ninjajamesplayz7942]

can u tell the other team to sign me

[@christiandelacruz1304]

Third.

[@MrCowdisease69]

Hey, can you guys tell TSM to step it up next worlds? k thx

[@SynthyCS]

hey Mr team liquid

[@sonicrichardsrb]

I love how “viper being insane” is basically regular shroud gameplay with no utility

[@cymar]

yea. kinda sad and fucking lazy. viper has so good lineups on maps and his ult is kinda op depending on how you use it

[@annexedd]

@@cymarMollys are bad since 50% of health taken is regened. Her Ultimate can be a nuisance to her own team at times.

[@SwapDark]

@@annexedd she is very good now wtf

[@awe331]

@@annexedd Why would her ult be bad? They go down to 1 hp if they stay in long enough, making retaking sites really hard.

[@bryanjonathan9404]

@@awe331 They are talking about the old Viper. Vid was made back at December last year bro

[@Sam-cd9xr]

I love the part where they talk about viper being bad by just showing people loosing gunfights while playing viper.

[@gosuld]

and her performing well has nothing to do with the character itself and just purely aim, trash tier content

[@Jmvars]

losing*

[@bored1078]

She’s garb anyway Phoenix beats her in every aspect

[@oskarliljavirta1008]

​@@bored1078 you know she is more played in pro rn than phoenix, being bad in soloqueue doesn't mean being unviable, she's played by all good teams on icebox and sometimes on bind as well

[@alishidqiealfaruqi873]

@@oskarliljavirta1008 Viper is good on Split site a tbh. I am a Viper main but yeah its kinda sucks when you solo queue without any flash to cover it, IMO. Put up wall up until heaven, smoke A CT and then voila you execute A. But you cant just yet if you dont have any flash from breach or skye. Viper is the only agent that someone need to be with her. Not because the lack of her skill but she's a literally support player and that's why i love her. lol.

[@heirkaiba]

Number 1-10 Joey Wheeler for being a third rate duelist.

[@blakestone8891]

Bahahha this needs a pin! 😂

[@glxywlf]

With a fourth rate deck

[@musix3197]

With a fourth rate brain.

[@Maxwell4455]

Mans plays swordsman of landstar and thinks it's good

[@blakestone8891]

@@Maxwell4455 still came second in duelist kingdom all the same 😌

[@HypnoticToad]

Using a Shroud clip of him playing Viper is just unfair. Shroud makes everything look borderline gamebreaking.

[@edwardbach5538]

They show Shroud playing Viper (and only aiming good not using any of her utility) to represent Viper being good sometimes and they show Hiko choking to show how Viper is bad. It is the definition of unfair and lazy.

[@FirstNameofAllNames]

I know right i just want them to show dixon using her to its full potential

[@egodrunk]

@@edwardbach5538 yeah they legit picked a clip where he didn't even use her abilities lmao. He could've been any agent and had that same clip.

[@blitzcrank8125]

Melee pichu vs Ultimate pichu is literally the definition of "Be careful who you bully in school"

[@auggiema6680]

Brawl pichu... i think you mean melee.

[@williamwest9204]

Melee. And they nerfed her in unnecessary ways

[@blitzcrank8125]

Sorry Also is pichu really female

[@f4yg020]

That was true a while ago, but Pichu is mid-high tier at best now.

[@Martin-tv7hr]

Pikachus outfits in ultimate show that it is melee pichu grown up.

[@tomatojeff2174]

“Tachanka with an imprecise and high recoil gun” literally the only things that weren’t true about the turret.

[@EpicTheSuperior]

For real, that gun had like the lowest recoil in the game and was probably about mid tier on precision

[@rishi280]

"Pichu is the worst character in melee" Bowser with his 8 frame jumpsquat :0

[@Starwing30]

Pichu might only be the worst character to those on the outside. But.... let them have it. No need to confuse them with terms like, jump squat.

[@clippygoat]

Kirby in Melee: poyo (why tf daddy sakurai hates me?)

[@justfriends7581]

Ahhh normies....

[@SJrad]

according to the current teir list, pichu is third worst with bowser second worst and kirby worst

[@TurbinationE]

Pichu isn't even that bad. Better than Bowser, Ness, Zelda, and Kirby AT THE LEAST. Potentially better than some others too.

[@obviouslyanonymous]

Its so weird seeing viper on a list like this nowadays. At this point she's almost essential for a good pro team.

[@Nythand]

Was this video before her buff that lets her pick up her utility? Because that is when she started being really good.

[@philipsabet7493]

No M249? Bot Oliver is disappointed

[@mattwhit02]

M249 is nuts when bursting imo.

[@pipoluca]

@@mattwhit02 Negev is way better imo. Better price and actually acurate if you give it a second.

[@sharkador831]

lmao

[@k0npaz]

m249 can be actually useful unlike pp bizon

[@Fester_HD]

@@pipoluca negev>m249 in spraying m249>>>>>>>>negev for tapping

[@araska3280]

Dont talk about my tachanka shit he is the greatest op in the game

[@valorantsweats3530]

No

[@newbietricki239]

@@valorantsweats3530 no you

[@thunderlocus3]

All hail to Lord Chanka!

[@ericoperuzzi8963]

All hail tachanka

[@triguntoroyohanes158]

Isnt hr buffed last year?

[@flobbyrobbo2889]

3:59 *shows clip where viper supposedly shines* is just shroud pointing and clicking

[@certifiedgoat7067]

ye he coulda done that with any character

[@wlzzey7374]

I will not accept any tachanka slander. He was/is and always will be a god tier pick

[@bartekmostek4850]

And now the pros are finally catching on lmao

[@shitakemyshrooms1928]

Tachanka just gives motivation and a boost in morale whenever hes around.Clearly hes not trash tier.

[@kolbeadams3794]

Message is state approved

[@matt6260]

"Stay with me my brothers!"

[@morky3673]

I swear you guys already have a near identical video to this one.

[@ItiIsHere]

Troll picks

[@sw4gbread]

exactly what I was thinking

[@morky3673]

@@ItiIsHere badmanner picks too.

[@muneebkhaki]

This is not the only one, they keep recycling the videos again & again

[@playboikaniiii]

@@muneebkhaki yeah, I don't know how many time this dude have included that indian hacker forsaken in the many cheater videos they did

[@chrisjung189]

the clip of them showing viper being good isn't actually viper's utility making her amazing. It's just shroud being an aim god.

[@FlameTOT375]

well this is pretty old considering that viper is much better now that people know how to use her ult shes definitely relavant now:)

[@purp1e300]

Viper is a good pick on Bind and split. Top level teams like fpx run her there. The clip of tenz was before a lot of teams starting realising her potential.

[@pol44r]

Actually torbjorn was "meta" for a few due to his ult being good for spacing

[@johnhawkins5314]

Aye but he's still decent even right now, he could well be meta if Echo and Ashe didn't take the 2 of the top 3 dpses in the meta atm (Sigma Balls Tracer meta)

[@crowvii5081]

He's not used for his ultimate its his turret countering tracer as tracer meta as a tank buster on hog etc

[@moplytus1]

well hes been very good for abt 1.5 years now

[@red1bk190]

@@johnhawkins5314 He is literally like an A tier hero rn because he can counter echo and tracer which are the strongest dps atm

[@johnhawkins5314]

@@red1bk190 Doesn't really counter echo since has long projectile dmg, as does Zenyatta who is the top dog support. That said yh he is good vs Tracer

[@Zender-]

Viper is now litterally the meta lmao

[@hideokojima9090]

Pichu isn’t even the worst character in melee lol

[@Razee41]

Please, get this account verified.

[@hideokojima9090]

@@Razee41, ikr

[@Mickey-id6rs]

bowser and kirby are both worse than him lmao

[@zacheeree4551]

IKRRR as someone who enjoys watching melee I was surprised it wasnt bowser or smth

[@theotherjared9824]

Little Mac is the perfect example of how balanced smash ultimate really is. The "worst" character in the game is still perfectly playable and devastating in the right hands.

[@scrufto9738]

Any remember RussianBadger at the Raleigh Major with tachanka?

[@Brody-js6iz]

Yes it was awesome

[@al1bert._151]

Yea i do, but now he has kinda quited the gamy tho

[@HypnoticToad]

You can't just spawnpeek with Chanka's pistol! (Yes I know this was the pain-yachty showdown)

[@mesutramsey3620]

thats just show match, nothing special. uuno did it against BDS in an ACTUAL match against BDS in six invitationals 2020. and it worked out.

[@keller_3180]

Pichu isn’t even the worst character in melee and in the part where they show Ned ledge a tier list they cut out the part where he saying they failed to make her the worst in the game

[@ariesomega2487]

Just wanted to say it too. Pichu is by far not the worst

[@imbored7916]

Bowser is definitely the worst, no doubt about it

[@tattizgames184]

Danny:- One day the toxic avenger gets a rework that makes her relevant Riot:- And i took that personally

[@Roadcrashroller]

Well, teemo makes almost every top laner destroy their keyboard

[@jirimoravec4578]

I play Gnar and Teemos usually destroy their keyboard once i land on them and stun them for 3 seconds while stacking conqueror and dealing massive damage hehe

[@alexandergray5977]

@@jirimoravec4578 i can never forgive gnar/teemo players

[@jirimoravec4578]

@@alexandergray5977 D: yes, my floofy boi b annoying with his boomerang, but once you get to know the matchup youll win against him. Gnar is not mechanically hard, but still is one of the hardest toplaners since hes adc in mini, but without damage and range, and you need to know the matchups. As mega youll probably win every all-in tho, so care about that.

[@alexandergray5977]

@@jirimoravec4578 wdym w/o damage, the laning phase is unbearable BC of your damage

[@Roasty420]

Ummm.... No. I play Malz and Kass Top and That never happens 😂

[@2xYou_]

"there are some times where she's just absolutely insane" shows a clip of shroud popping off without using any of her abilities

[@joeynathanael]

Torbjorn is actually a viable pick rn

[@purp1e300]

yeah. And in the right hero pool he's a must pick in OWL

[@roberthernandez4282]

@@purp1e300 they removed hero pools so long ago lmao

[@Dolarock]

@@roberthernandez4282 nope. Not in overwatch league

[@gabrielh.k.2844]

I came here to say the same. After the rework he has been a consistent character and in this meta is a fine pick

[@purp1e300]

@@roberthernandez4282 you learn how to read at the age of 5 LMAO

[@louisalzate6185]

if tf2 was an esport id bet my liver spy in general would be on here

[@Scrubkamii]

Which Tf2

[@itzalyssa.]

@@Scrubkamii Team Fortress 2

[@Scrubkamii]

@@itzalyssa. ok thanks for the clarification

[@radicalgranola3397]

bring tf2 back to being considered an esport

[@josephvinik2476]

The Mozambique actually is pretty good now. With the hammerpoint mod and if you land all of the pellets it can do 146 to the head. The only guns that do more damage than that are the Kraber and the peacekeeper. Both of which are care package weapons.

[@fate715]

The clip you showed for viper was only showing shrouds gun skills he barely used any utility in the clip.

[@12takesanL]

The viper trash tier pick did not age well at all. She’s now a S tier agent, who is a must pick on fracture, and Icebox

[@hmmmm398]

Big flap jack facts my guy

[@thatwalfordguy5066]

I like how this video wasn't even up to date with information at time of filming

[@owo4470]

Indeed, teemo isn't bad rn in dolo queue

[@RandomFBIguy]

Viper was bad, now she's practically in EVERY PRO MATCH

[@justkains4939]

I know they already brought up Valorant once, but the sage nerfs were so bad that sage had a zero percent pick rate in some large tourneys right after the nerf. They should’ve brought that up

[@milesslater3142]

"There are times where she looks absolutely insane." That Shroud clip was just Shroud being insane, he could have done that with any character ngl.

[@druidofthefang]

Old Tachanka turret was NOT inprecise or "high recoil", it was actually very precise and very manageable. The problem was with his movement. But whatever.

[@benhaney9629]

Yeah the problem was that you were stationary. But they mentioned that as well.

[@henrybauck7924]

Ah yes the classic score esports quote "love to hate"

[@WatchDoges2]

I guess ryu became a low tier character when he lost to tokita ohma in the kengan asura manga

[@utterchoasvods7719]

jack screaming about the mechs will never go away XD

[@ianmahendra4610]

After her buff and everyone knows her potential, now Viper is a must pick agent in Breeze, Bind and Split. They used it as Sentinel-Controller hybrid.

[@dannygeorge9131]

Sorry for the delay everyone!, did i miss the olof boost?

[@philzach4915]

I still cant get over the fact that Melee Bowser didn’t make it into this list lmao

[@rickyten]

I Guess Viper is Back in Business :D

[@ashwinashu4825]

Literally meta on several maps rn.

[@korbenharrison434]

I don't play Valorant, but my Dad and my brother does, and from what I heard from them Viper is actually really good now due to buffs, maybe even a top tier agent.

[@wolffreezerlivestreamer]

Is torbjorn on here? Haven’t played overwatch in a while but maybe

[@wolffreezerlivestreamer]

It was there yay

[@cloude8496]

He is actually very strong now in case you are curious

[@sera48g]

Bastions is worse

[@purp1e300]

@@cloude8496 this channel doesn’t give a shit about ow and valorant. I am very interested in both and watch a lot of pro play and basically everything they say about those games is just wrong

[@ExeTheEnhanced]

@@purp1e300 Couldn't agree more. Their video about the "rise and fall of Overwatch's aim gods" literally only talked about Pine, completely ignored that hitscan has been really strong for a while now and that it was meta last season in OWL. And they also completely ignored that while Pine is gone, there is a lot of new talent on hitscan in OWL that has comparable or even better aim than Pine did. They made that video about an ex player who hasn't been relevant in over two years and failed to include any currently active players that are relevant to the topic of the video...

[@Lengtackto]

Dota is a perfect game, no trash heros. Basically, u have to make every hero imbalanced to make a perfectly balanced game. Even though the game is still on beta.

[@al1bert._151]

No wonder you call tachanka a useless operator, not everyone can understand a god you know

[@vedantvrushaligondhali9019]

Y'all need to see viper now from bottom layer to the top three picks

[@danielh2936]

have you seen dixuun or jin with viper plays? it seems like with lineups and some training she can be actually good.

[@Materialist39]

Danny, your presentation style has improved a lot very quickly, and from what ive seen in this vid so far you’ve taken a lot of the good faith, critical feedback to heart. Great vid, and all surprisingly unsurprising picks for this list!

[@bartekmostek4850]

Other than including a fortnite gun. This has points taken away for it alone

[@johnnwith2ns464]

And Viper is now meta

[@cerjmedia]

Top Trash-tier Picks in Siege: -Choosing ACS-12 -Choosing M1014 on Ace -Choosing Amaru with Shotgun

[@veev969]

Surprised Techies from Dota 2 wasn't on this list.

[@Scy416]

Well if played correctly.. Tech could singlehandly deff the base

[@fernandamaulanaazhar5445]

Jerax: "Hold my Bomb"

[@Scy416]

@@fernandamaulanaazhar5445 we good explode together

[@fslolz09]

All heroes are viable in Dota 2. And yes, even for Techies.

[@triguntoroyohanes158]

@@fslolz09 cry in overly denerfed

[@draconidmike]

So Danny is the total top 10 guy now

[@geniusforlife3932]

Knowing that I haven't picked any of these, I feel as a GOD

[@parham1023]

Techies from Dota2 should have been included too imo

[@dinodude7246]

*sees title picture* "No they wouldn't.." *sees number 10* *rage*

[@antcatt_]

now we can replace viper for yoru!

[@alexp1868]

Viper now is very broken

[@bergieoldschool]

viper: there are sometimes where she looks insane! *shows shroud simply aiming* holy cow!

[@esticorero1289]

The viper spot aged really bad lol

[@numberyi]

"Viper can be insane", pretty sure thats just shroud

[@Sugarist0]

Viper is better now right?

[@vxxiii4160]

I feel Little Mac is the most in-character fighter in Smash for the fact that he's the underdog in his games where he can be knocked out with literally 3 hits, yet he excels in power to compensate his abilities. A good Mac can obliterate any opponent if he goes against the meta play and stays in the middle of the stage without relying on aerial combat.

[@Suiqq]

Torb is S tier forever, literal free top 500 for holding left click with a headglitched turret

[@sagiashkenov9346]

Techies: Am I a joke to you?

[@joking5193]

When the enemy team all buys the Lvl3 Necronomicon :(

[@Timmyartificio]

Yes until EG won TI with it

[@facefullvoid7273]

EG literally won TI because of that little shit.

[@fernandamaulanaazhar5445]

EG and OG: "Hold My Bomb"

[@chikin6146]

I think you just haven't played with or against a good techies. The hero isn't bad, it's either just the player or his teammates who doesn't know how to play with the hero.

[@Emerald29]

and now Viper is broken as hell

[@SweetciderBTW]

I'm sorry but in first stike EU finals BOTH teams ran viper so how is she bad?

[@Lamb666]

I wouldn't say she's bad, she just isn't as good as the other agents. Omen and brimstone do her job better the majority of the time. My guess is they just try to find what is considered the worst Valorant agent to put on the list.

[@raamishashmi5557]

She isn't great you have to have a certain strat to use her there's better alternatives like omen and brim for smokes and kj for her venom but her ulti Is good

[@SwapDark]

Funny how Viper is OP AF in valorant now xD

[@grandmaashley]

grandma approved

[@Vxiska]

check ur dm ashley, I miss you...

[@TheNavigator13]

Bizon is actually very useful in the 2nd round if you win the pistol round. The enemy team will eco most of the times and with that rate of fire and no armor on the enemy, headshot hits will kill enemies very fast. Plus the $600 per kill for the 3rd round.

[@sorasorisora]

I thought Techies would make it to the list

[@MoleculeXmolecule]

Teemo made rank 7, so it's close enough.

[@JohnYannoulas]

Techies at least have legit terrifying tools. And indeed Teemo is not even a bottom feeder right now.

[@JAN0L]

Techies has been picked in TIs in the past. He's a niche pick, and requires learning a completely different playstyle, but he has his niche.

[@KidTrigger]

Most techies players are just bad at the hero lmao

[@aaron7285]

Techies is not trash! It just have a high skill ceiling

[@drakeyww]

As a viper main, this hurts

[@nicksmith9]

Torb - "Easy target to hit" he legit has the smallest hitbox in the game.

[@bartekmostek4850]

Zen: hold my peace

[@Tank22556]

As a 550,000 point plat 3 Teemo main, it is true. He is bad in organized play, but solo queue is where he shines.

[@re_i_gn]

It's pretty sad that Viper is the most well-designed character model in Valorant but she pales in comparison to everyone else.

[@kizuruka]

PP Bizon is actually good, I'm a silver, that should explains it

[@urbanreaping]

no techies....?

[@fernandamaulanaazhar5445]

Remember Aui_2000 at TI5 and Jerax at TI9?

[@urbanreaping]

@@fernandamaulanaazhar5445 yeah awesome techies plays agreed but come on? techies in team is usually gg

[@vizivXC]

How do you add Pichu here and not bowser?????

[@Lau_wings]

I main little mac in smash, sure his recovery is dogshit, but its amazing when you absolutely dumpster someone, you can basically taste their rage at losing to a little mac.

[@JunkPrat1113]

I am a mac main too and his recovery isn't as bad as people think... I think some other characters have a worse recovery it is still bad but it is more exploitable more than anything. But overall smash ultimate is pretty balanced for the amount of characters in the game like every character can honestly beat anyone equally

[@sickobamba7120]

As someone who’s lost to little mac you are correct

[@DUxMORTEM]

Vipers problem is riot refuses to make her abilities deal instant damage, instead they give players a delay to move right through her stuff without taking damage.

[@bartekmostek4850]

Or give it a special effect where moving through her abilities causes damage for multiple seconds after entering while keeping the delay

[@bartekmostek4850]

tachanka just got a fucking rework which has cemented him as a quality op. this vid is outdated

[@deathtrap5556]

Did you even watch the video? He talks about how he has been reworked now

[@bartekmostek4850]

@@deathtrap5556 I did. Still even including him knowing this is just plain stupid

[@presence5692]

@@bartekmostek4850 How? When he picked him he was bad. It is the only relevant info

[@flooboo1502]

Man, Teemo used to actually be a decent pick at least in ARAMs before the mythical update, but the cannon minions getting vision in a massive range makes him absolutely completely useless.

[@Krabapple]

Although Pichu is bad, I don't think anyone would have put him on the list. Kirby would have been a better pick, as he is 1) Slower, 2) Weaker, 3) almost as light, 4) bigger (and not in the good way), and 5) a worse recovery. Pichu, while yes is going against the game, Kirby is basically trying to go even lower. Kirby also has an even greater fall from grace, as Kirby was top 2 in Smash 64, got nerfed into oblivion going into Melee, and has never reached that same point, or even came close.

[@christiantmyhre]

Scarab wants to know your location.

[@winterz1290]

Yoru deserves a spot on this list tbh. P.S. 3:33 aged super well ;)

[@Thes4LT]

The Bizon was never that bad. When anti-eco rounds were actually a thing before the loss money change, it was the most profitable SMG and great for solo spraydowns against unarmored players. It unfortunately doesn't fit in anywhere in the current meta.

[@slug_boi6262]

Omg that viper place aged TERRIBLY now she’s in like every match

[@Chitrousdig]

I disagree with the bison usually I have a 90% chance winning in vertigo with it is the best and usually gets ace :)

[@dexuwastaken7079]

Viper is annoying now

[@Crufty09]

Sorry but your opinion on Viper is plain out wrong. She was picked by most top EU teams during semi-final and final of First Strike. It's a meta thing but she is not useless, she has been proven to be STRONG but only on a few sites and maps. Surely not the best agent overall but far from "unplayable". If you trying to show highlights of Viper, maybe put in more effort than just showing a highlight clip that only involves aim no abilities at all, that just shows a lack of effort in terms of research for this part of the video. Despite that, I'm a huge supporter of theScore esport and I do love your documentaries, keep them coming!

[@arkraith4148]

It's ironic how the Mozambique is actually now considered the best shotgun by quite a few people in Apex. Also #1 slot was a joke. It's literally supposed to be the weakest gun...

[@wrldw1de156]

3:34 Viper is now one of the best characters in the game

[@leonesenpai]

Torb wasn't bad back then and he was really hard to deal with given his turret was damn hard to kill and the lvl 3 evolve on Ult was just hell along with his armor skill. Torb was nerfed, not buffed and now he's trash 😂

[@cheesegaming3126]

"Viper. Literally nobody touches her" US East 1: how bout i do anyway?

[@cheesegaming3126]

"The most similar thing to this would be the Nerf Super Soaker" Now i'm going to start calling low damage guns "sprinklers"

[@edigabriel932]

3 month later, viper buffs come true..

[@deXfactor777]

At 6:22, it was Kayle that punted Teemo, not Olaf. Still a cathartic moment for all League players none the less

[@kieru7637]

The valorant pick is outdated. Viper rn is broken if you know how to play her. Brimstone rn is the worst pick with omen being better than him any way.

[@enso8762]

I love playing these characters 🤣

[@jmanfro1]

Pichu isn't even the worst character in melee. Bowser litterally has no approach options, no combo game, and little KO options. Plus he's easy combo food for the faster characters.