Ah yes. The most popular question in esports history: Can we go goats?
@pinaplee93294 жыл бұрын
I will find you
@anonymoushuman85464 жыл бұрын
GOATS
@Monke-fj2qz4 жыл бұрын
Please dude just this once it's my masters promo games please dude please please please. Please man just go GOATS I just want Masters so bad man please.
@xxchevronxx4 жыл бұрын
Trace not gonna lie that was me for my GM promotion game. But too be fair at that level it’s either the enemy team mirrors goats or it’s gg. Lots of free sr cause the enemy team refused to run goats.
@DeviltoGeorgia344 жыл бұрын
It even worked in Bronze. I played it twice, once as the Brigitte and once as the Reinhardt. Won both times easily.
@JackXFrost014 жыл бұрын
I remember that people hated GOATS so much that people began to harass the voice actor for Brigitte via online and real life (as Brig was broken on release and the core support in the meta) like WTF thinking is that.
@mk_gamíng06094 жыл бұрын
Its the internet. People say oh games and reality are different but guess what, the same exact people will harass VAs for a character they hate proving that games do in fact effect reality
@pedinhuh164 жыл бұрын
Because gamers can be the most toxic kind of persons you meet on the internet.
@No-ej5jz4 жыл бұрын
@@pedinhuh16 no shit shercock
@k4roshi3 жыл бұрын
Wasnt she also op after Roll Lock?
@oreoslurpee98873 жыл бұрын
legit like they called her fucking fat like wtf
@mrcamera87424 жыл бұрын
What about META knight...he literally has the word META in his name
@LunaticJ4 жыл бұрын
Meta Knight took skill to play tho
@xolotltolox76264 жыл бұрын
@gebi that isn't true from 2009-2013 more people were playing Brawl than Melee to the point where melee was actually dying
@GuenterErde14 жыл бұрын
@@LunaticJ MK did not take skill. He was able to air camp out almost the entire cast, all of his attacks had crazy frame data, he could ignore tripping by just not landing, shuttle loop had I frames and could kill by the ledge at 60%, he was the best scrooger due to his gliding
@LunaticJ4 жыл бұрын
@@GuenterErde1 ICs were more braindead and easy. MK dittos were actually sick
@garrettmccloskey2744 жыл бұрын
Myqin air camping was banned
@XxHistorikxX4 жыл бұрын
Bro the R8 could one shot across the MAP in the stomach lmao. The most fun 2 days in competitive ever lmao
@GhillieInTheMist304 жыл бұрын
Not really but yeah
@flanbenflen90694 жыл бұрын
It was fucking hilarious with the boys, now they all left
@shahmeer321004 жыл бұрын
True it was pretty hilarious
@13darkfighter4 жыл бұрын
also remember when you could just kill everyone before the round started by just right clicking? great times
@JoabeRuben4 жыл бұрын
yeah but valve killed the r8 with the update, the r8 never got a chance to be a good weapon, valve made it to powerfull, but also nerfed it into the ground
@btarg14 жыл бұрын
"I survived AUG Week" would make a good t shirt.
@nickster16534 жыл бұрын
inotorious reference
@Masherpertater4 жыл бұрын
I think goats was worse then bayonetta goats literally removed a whole role for a year
@soupwithpotatos15424 жыл бұрын
Masherpertater 5 meh, even after nerfs bayo was still the best.
@wirc04 жыл бұрын
iCrazyBlaze Ardent Cancer would be great too.
@HasH01964 жыл бұрын
"I survived the R8 days"
@Gauntlets4 жыл бұрын
Leroy Smith, Tekken 7? When he dropped, I fought 95+ percent Leroy in online ranked!
@INSOMNIACification4 жыл бұрын
And then the five Leroy Evo too, the current Fahk meta is terrible too. Season 3 has been so bad, especially since the game was pretty decent In season 2
@blackheart59_4 жыл бұрын
@@INSOMNIACification dont worry, season 4 will be great.
@malcocanedo90614 жыл бұрын
@@INSOMNIACification It wasn't 5, it was 6 or 7
@shini64m144 жыл бұрын
@@malcocanedo9061 6x in top 10 was fahkumram iirc
@IWantToStayAtYourHouse3 жыл бұрын
I still fight him all the time lmao
@archae94124 жыл бұрын
without even watching the video i knew goats would be there
@SpitfireDBD4 жыл бұрын
It was blatantly obvious, goats was so bad to watch and play/play against in ranked
@lighty86854 жыл бұрын
WDYM i enjoyed playing goats even nowdays in open q ranked Kreygasm
@bporada664 жыл бұрын
I ran into a six stack using goats in no limits just last week. Is that what people do for fun?
@rhapzodyk5414 жыл бұрын
goats so broken blizzard had to force 2-2-2 LULW
@gonzoshots46914 жыл бұрын
if you didn't say "goats" in your head when you read the words "broken meta" then you just don't know...
@dfsempire27124 жыл бұрын
Screw lion and goats in siege and overwatch they literally made fans leave the game
@chrisji9474 жыл бұрын
Now it's ying and basically the entire game for siege now lmfao
@mattontop4 жыл бұрын
Goats wasn't *that* bad tbh. It was at least fun to play
@prod.erebus4 жыл бұрын
Lion Finka Glaz Blitz Ying Jackal Dokkaebi Pick any 5 and that's operation chimera in a nutshell
@Nanery6624 жыл бұрын
@@prod.erebus 4+lion you mean
@anonymoushuman85464 жыл бұрын
Goats was fun to play if you were good at it, but it was hilarious how bad Blizzard was at balancing to counter it
@lepatiun88304 жыл бұрын
I still get PTSD everytime when i hear "Can we go goats"
@noahchoi84304 жыл бұрын
Bro cmon goats is fun
@FIGHTNATION4323 жыл бұрын
@@noahchoi8430 lol what rank r u
@noahchoi84303 жыл бұрын
@@FIGHTNATION432 gold you?
@FIGHTNATION4323 жыл бұрын
@@noahchoi8430 high masters and GM
@noahchoi84303 жыл бұрын
@@FIGHTNATION432 holy shit nice
@Uniplebb4 жыл бұрын
Seems like people forgot about blackbeard days on siege. no one was safe xD
@harry_r64 жыл бұрын
Siege wasn't much of an esport back at the bb times, so it's understandable. Honorable mention would be nice tho
@zainfps4 жыл бұрын
What about og ela
@borismuller864 жыл бұрын
Zain R6 right? Her launch Scorpion was a death hose.
@5econd7774 жыл бұрын
@@borismuller86 duude I remember that it had no recoil, an LMG like mag, and shot fast as hell
@climax0504 жыл бұрын
This is a real OG one, but frost's shotgun when she came out? probably the most broken thing i've ever seen. thing could one tap to like 30m... they had to rework shotguns half a dozen times afterward.
@RocketLeon454 жыл бұрын
Honestly I wasn't too surprised about the GOATS meta. When I first started playing OW I noticed that you could literally win without having any dps. They don't do nearly enough damage and are WAY to squishy. Surprised Blizzard didn't see that much earlier.
@tyraywilkerson31804 жыл бұрын
2/2/2 is lame tho it kills the fun for casual too
@ExeTheEnhanced4 жыл бұрын
@@tyraywilkerson3180 Not really, 2-2-2 saved the game tbh. Finally, there were no 3, 4 or even 5 dps insta picks, which sucked for all tank or support players. Now the players, that liked the way comp used to be, have open queue. So in the end, everyone is satisfied. The vast majority of the playerbase that liked role queue can continue playing it. And the minority of players that didn't like role queue can now play open queue.
@BlankTheBoy4 жыл бұрын
@@ExeTheEnhanced I have a reason to why I dont like 2/2/2 and its since I was a classic overwatch player like season 3 classic i stopped playing a season before role queue was added so i took along lengthy break from overwatch and when i return i was like I'll try comp and the queue times for dps was and will always be horrendous and I'm an aggressive player on anyclass tank support damage (obviously damage) so I decided to reintroduce my self to the defense category and since there's not one because its dps which saddens me so I have to sit through queue times longer than marriages
@Ratovx4 жыл бұрын
When did you started playing ? Brigitta + healing buff overall was the enable of goats. before that it wasn't good at all, you could just play spam comps with pharah and dominate 3-3
@FearOgre4 жыл бұрын
@@ExeTheEnhanced 2-2-2 how to tell people you fucking failed as balance design for your game.
@aminemastermind57864 жыл бұрын
The most annoying thing about the Lion meta is he would often be combined with Dokkaebi and Jackal. If you got tracked by Jackal while Lion's ability was active there was literally nothing you could do. You stay still; the pings from Jackal showed where you were. You move; every attacker can see your outline. Combine that with the audio cues from Dokkaebi and playing on defense was hell on earth.
@hawkeyedsentinel46484 жыл бұрын
And don't forget Blitz who'd blind you as you're forced to stand still.
@RekkaKien34 жыл бұрын
Tekken 7 - Leroy. single handedly ruined Evo Japan 2020.
@thelonesomewanderer83594 жыл бұрын
so cancer even thinking about it..
@Sarkoidosis14 жыл бұрын
oh boy, that shit haunts me to this day
@Dasponz4 жыл бұрын
not op unless his last name is jenkins
@AnnonHa4 жыл бұрын
How about tekken 6 bob
@zaed112954 жыл бұрын
This, 100% all the way. It was so abysmal to watch. I skipped watching top 8 that year
@Megalopros4 жыл бұрын
OW players: there is nothing that is going to last as long as dive OW devs: we are going to destroy everyone's whole careers (including ours)
@goldenvids55294 жыл бұрын
Dive was at least fun and interesting to watch
@jabarihill43184 жыл бұрын
Golden Vids it was then brig came along. And despite every player the ever played the game that said delete her, they said 2/2/2 is where it’s at and now it’s fucking double shield
@Pool.bruv234 жыл бұрын
@@jabarihill4318 it's not double shield btw it's brig zen dive
@ceibacat4 жыл бұрын
@@Pool.bruv23 no, double shield is meta in 4000+ to a stupid extent. brig zen dive is played in tourneys sometimes, but it's not like it's crazy hard meta, since it actually is kinda hard to execute properly. double shield takes literally 0 cooldown management/mechanical skill. a hogtied paraplegic could play either sigma or orisa and still be effective.
@silverfang45834 жыл бұрын
@@ceibacat that was until they nerfed them and now its mei plus 2 tanks to have a 3 tank team
@feichenyang65434 жыл бұрын
Brigitte perfected GOATS, she didn't cause it. The first goats comp was based on Anna being able to charge up her ult super fast with multiple tanks.
@philithegamer82652 жыл бұрын
DIVE is best meta though
@madnessman1520 Жыл бұрын
@@philithegamer8265 facts
@deepvybes4 жыл бұрын
2015 Riot apologies for the Juggernaut Meta -> 2017 Riot implements the Ardent Censer Meta
@fabachso91844 жыл бұрын
Current death dance is worse than ardent. Atleast the adc was able to die back then, now they're just fucking tanks
@msnl_4 жыл бұрын
@@Godspamit ???? Just play OP champs. Love abusing shit.
@bantay214 жыл бұрын
200 years
@JuhooniSwahooni4 жыл бұрын
Juggernaut meta was pretty fun actually. Like it was exciting to watch. Ardent was kinda boring but it was ok. I just want the meta to change consistently, and not stay the same.
@JuhooniSwahooni4 жыл бұрын
@@fabachso9184 Yah, getting nerfed next patch pretty hard, so should be gone :)
@guppygills4 жыл бұрын
any time Overwatch makes it into the top 3 of one of these lists I know it's about GOATS or something else negative lmaooo
@zulu25874 жыл бұрын
Remember when you could aim at the floor with a shotgun in Halo: The Master Chief Collection and kill people? Yeah me too.
@Nthdegree24 жыл бұрын
i thought the carbine was busted when halo 4 came out, the gun was a headshot machine
@Xfactor123454 жыл бұрын
@@Nthdegree2 it was, the recoil and headshot count got reduced which made it fun to use again, but nothing compared to the abomination that was the Boltshot.
@QuintessentialWalrus3 жыл бұрын
@@Xfactor12345 Halo 4 was just kind of a bad meta in general TBH... being able to spawn with Plasma Grenades, Plasma Pistols, or the fucking Boltshot was extremely sus
@Vladd0r4 жыл бұрын
Before I watch: OW Goats has to be in there.
@thegipper12154 жыл бұрын
Yep, high up as well
@Vladd0r4 жыл бұрын
@@thegipper1215 As bad as it was for OW League. It was actually fun to play, I was the Brig player for my clan 😂
@symbolitical41584 жыл бұрын
@@Vladd0r it was fine for shock and vancouver - I don't think it was bad to watch necessarily, I just think it looked terrible when a good team rolled a bad one. Unlike currently, it didn't even look close that's why goats was bad for owl. It made a few teams like good and the rest look poop.
@Vladd0r4 жыл бұрын
@@symbolitical4158 Yup. It came down to the better Zarya on a team and cd management
@RuneKingOleifr4 жыл бұрын
@@Vladd0r I can tell you it was NOT fun to play the Rein.
@Arrlic4 жыл бұрын
i love the face on zero vs salem after zero was just "really man?"
@Superintendent_ChaImers4 жыл бұрын
You forgot a meta here. The people who fought against the GOATs tactic. Those were "The Men Who Stare At Goats"
@equilateral4 жыл бұрын
hindsight is 2020, literally. the fact that a dlc character destroyed smash bros is just so depressing.
@yeahok92224 жыл бұрын
It wasn't even the first time either, Brawl Meta Knight was debatebly worse than s4 bayo.
@the_wake_4 жыл бұрын
@@yeahok9222 I can see that argument, but MK wasn't a DLC character.
@jobooiii4 жыл бұрын
@@yeahok9222 brawl meta knight vs meta knight was a good match up to watch
@yeahok92224 жыл бұрын
@@the_wake_ fair enough
@colehughes26794 жыл бұрын
At least Nintendo seems to be releasing non-top-tier DLC characters after joker lately. I kinda wish some of them weren't so bad though, the game is starting to get stale.
@tonimmcx3 жыл бұрын
I was so casual in Overwatch that at one time QP-ing for my challenge rewards, I legit thought the other team was real hot stuff for managing to spawn camp us the entire match... only to find out that was just GOATing months later. Quite a chuckle that was. At least that wasn't widely known outside competitive and I still finished that challenge.
@barracudaboi7903 жыл бұрын
I came to see Tekken 7's Leroy Smith, after his first release, there were 7 Leroys in the top 8 of Evolution Championship Series 2019 and the only player who did not use Leroy did make it to the finals, but lost eventually. He had better verions of the strongest characters' strongest tools, like Jin's parry, Bryan's orbital(Leroy's parry, whose command was back1 was just slightly worse than Jin's parry, but had a larger hit-box). No matter how powerful a character has become, they never lead to most of the gaming gods to leave their mains and play him, but Leroy did. There is a video posted by theScore esports on him and a video made by basically the most famous Tekken-tuber, @TheMainManSWE.
@coreygolphenee96332 жыл бұрын
Especially in a game Tekken where a panda that's been playing long enough is viable to win a tournament
@TheVision_134 жыл бұрын
Brood Lord Infestor was broken but I think the Swarm Host Meta during Heart of the Swarm was much worse
@gigamonster904 жыл бұрын
Swarm host killed a bunch of peoples love for sc2 i played before and after heart of the swarm and im glad i dodged that bullet
@adibz9594 жыл бұрын
I never like Heart of the Swarm
@niklasstahl984 жыл бұрын
Wait, you don't enjoy 50 minute games?
@SimonPegg20004 жыл бұрын
I agree, Swarm Hosts killed Starcraft 2. And it never recovered
@gureguru46944 жыл бұрын
agreed. nydus worms/swarm hosts meta is way worse
@the_wake_4 жыл бұрын
The thing that's really messed up about Goats is that Blizzard apparently felt they couldn't really even balance it out. Their solution was to just force an incredibly narrow draft space on the game. What a disaster.
@louiscorona84654 жыл бұрын
Bro, if 222 wasn’t in the game, we would still play goats, but with orisa.
@the_wake_4 жыл бұрын
@@louiscorona8465 Yeah, that's what I mean. The team seemed to think the balance problem was so severe there was no organic fix, and it could only be brute-forced.
@vikzxt4 жыл бұрын
Brigitte is the most OP hero ever, other gamedevs have the balls to recognize their mistake and take a character out of the game until it's balanced. Brig is STILL OP to this day.
@fuzesthehostage72984 жыл бұрын
v zxt ??? You have no idea what your talking about
@jigglehippo474 жыл бұрын
@@fuzesthehostage7298 Brig is OP. It takes more skill to play a kazoo than it does to play Brig.
@johngardner55274 жыл бұрын
Everytime I play Overwatch it feels like actually shooting someone with a gun does nothing. For a game that is supposed to be a fps, the guns seem to tickle while abilities do all the damage.
@chad51154 жыл бұрын
Wow! It's almost like overwatch is a 1st person moba!
@Meitti4 жыл бұрын
@@chad5115 Thats not an excuse though, SMITE is a 3rd person MOBA and players die 3 times as quickly as they do in Overwatch.
@ilyarudnitskiy81224 жыл бұрын
I feel like that’s just Blizzard design tbh
@chad51154 жыл бұрын
@@Meitti OK and?
@Meitti4 жыл бұрын
@@chad5115 And it means your excuse is terrible. MOBA doesnt mean that things die slowly in the game.
@salutcava22624 жыл бұрын
How about the Leroy meta from Tekken 7, that character ruined EVO japan.
@jadenquest95444 жыл бұрын
It was a nightmare
@Kiyosuki4 жыл бұрын
The Leeroy meta was pretty bad (unfortunately too, since Leeroy's a cool character.) but at least they got on that relatively quickly.
@mimiargyle17944 жыл бұрын
what like we saw 7 leroy's in grand finals?
@joash43324 жыл бұрын
I thought the leeroy from hearthstone hahaha
@smashrag95924 жыл бұрын
Book won with him
@Hummabubba4 жыл бұрын
As a long time OW player, I knew GOATS was going to be high on here. Nearly killed the game. OW still hasn't been the same since Brig was released.
@YoukilisTHSGEMB4 жыл бұрын
Even then, it's still not the worst meta in the game. GOATs was becoming less meta when 222 was launched, moving over towards CV style comps. Double shield was infinitely worse. Goats had its upsides, double shield made me quit.
@anonymoushuman85464 жыл бұрын
Now Mei is the problem
@anonymoushuman85464 жыл бұрын
@@YoukilisTHSGEMB Mei is still kinda broken, although the game is in a really good place in terms of comp variety rn
@heartgoldkarma64944 жыл бұрын
I think goat is what killed OW
@heartgoldkarma64944 жыл бұрын
Just a an esport imo
@xxx956354 жыл бұрын
I love how they show the patchnotes were the SG was nerfed and two lines under it there is ne next broken meta XD
@BennyR924 жыл бұрын
yea, the jumping Deagle was straight bullshit as well. Not as bad as the R8 but still terrible.
@Captain-Fordo4 жыл бұрын
That r6 strat, i call "Chimera Meta" -Lion -Finka -Jackal -Dokeabi -Ying or blitz
@omarcaballero20114 жыл бұрын
Ah yes. Cancer Squad. Good times
@patrickking71154 жыл бұрын
Lion, finka, dok, blitz, blackbeard is still pocket strat for 3rd obj.
@casenozero4 жыл бұрын
Swap Finka for Ash lol
@BrickyRiver07124 жыл бұрын
Yellow meta
@MarszSens4 жыл бұрын
Omfg
@thedarkknight91934 жыл бұрын
I can see ZeRo being like: “This game was a mistake”
@okiessb20184 жыл бұрын
An actual quote
@thedarkknight91934 жыл бұрын
@@okiessb2018 Is it? Well fuck I guess I am lucky.
@Dimsii4 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@ToikaThatOneFrenchGuy4 жыл бұрын
Bayo Sm4sh = Broken MK Brawl : *W H E E Z E*
@GoodlyPenguin4 жыл бұрын
Shiiit best timing ever?
@ferrelputraramadhan78494 жыл бұрын
CS:GO R8 Meta Is Broken We Players : ITS HIGH.... NOON
@xyismoon3 жыл бұрын
DRAWWWWWWWW
@xyismoon3 жыл бұрын
I play CS with R8, and when I was 1 tapping everyone one guy there was like "I FCKING HATE YOU PIKA SHOW THAT R8 UP YOUR ASS BISH AND DO NOT USE IT AGAIN"after that I killed him 8 more times with R8 XD
@adolflincoln79704 жыл бұрын
Expected GOATS and LION in the top 3, they were so broken that they almost break the whole game.
@JackXombi4 жыл бұрын
No almost. OW's shit metas got so tiring that a lot of fans wrote off the whole series. Like, did you know there's an OverWatch 2 ?
@golddieb86274 жыл бұрын
@@JackXombi overwatch metas are shit, i'll give you that, but Overwatch 2 is actually pretty hyped, even though we got no information about it for months now. We know that there is Overwatch 2.
@FearOgre4 жыл бұрын
Was hoping r8 would be higher, remember when it came out. Was just r8 vs r8 for days.
@HekateMGO4 жыл бұрын
GOATS meta did kill OW lmao
@taawesome29494 жыл бұрын
Almost?
@MasakanSolaris4 жыл бұрын
I love how it took making the game unplayable to finally get blizzard to put in 2/2/2
@agnars68104 жыл бұрын
Dude you were probably in plat where no one even played goats
@johndriscoll2134 жыл бұрын
@Mosquito x2 shield Zzz
@aidenless34794 жыл бұрын
@@agnars6810 we plat players had our fair share of goats
@elijahvang38054 жыл бұрын
my guy you act like you didnt have fun playing goats
@flyingpigmonkey14 жыл бұрын
All it took to ruin the game was Blizzard folding to shit players who didn't like dying to dive heroes because they don't understand teamplay and implementing Brigitte.
@spectregd4 жыл бұрын
Gm players: has to deal with GOATS Me: is in silver/gold elo so I don’t have to deal with metas
@f687sNFM4 жыл бұрын
Nah, there was the glass nuke meta
@georgemoore72384 жыл бұрын
‘Sniper has a brainless kit’ shows only Kyle playing him
@bliggmusik4 жыл бұрын
Accounting for the damage and how much money was lost (players leaving) goats shout be not number 1 but 0
@zharls56584 жыл бұрын
I am not familiar with the meta of goat but I played smash and being honesto bayonetta killed the game. Not only she was strong but she was safe to play if you tried to kill her she killed you, if you tried to run she outrunned you it was horrible. I cant compare these two but I can agree that these metas destroyed the game
@goldenvids55294 жыл бұрын
@@zharls5658 I quit OW because of goats, my favorite game for YEARS I finally got grandmaster rank... Then goats. My 3000 hours in tracer became useless as my team screamed at me for not going goats and when I was able to play dps I got bodied.
@littleboy7464 жыл бұрын
@@Unregiyeah ok but even then, OW didn't lose nearly as much as smash did from ONE character, that and teams like Shangai were still able to win consistently when not going goats. That and it was still more interesting to watch than bayonetta
@tired1504 жыл бұрын
no, smash 4 bayo was worse. The game singlehandedly died because of her. smash 4 must have lost 10 times as many players as ow because of her. she made the best player want to quit even more then he already did and also made players lose at 40% because of 1 move hitting. bayo is number 1
@5000KAITOSHION4 жыл бұрын
@@tired150 nah smash 4 bayo didnt do as much damage as GOATS did tbh. The game was already on its way out due to ult anyways, plus the game itself was getting stale and developers didnt nerf her further more
@phoenix50294 жыл бұрын
I find it funny that the Bayonetta meta is at the top of this list, despite Smash's rep among eSports.
@ayar24 жыл бұрын
ikr
@dreadcrimson79664 жыл бұрын
Well, she _did_ absolutely wreck the entirety of Smash 4...
@aXentOG4 жыл бұрын
Being from all these communities, Bayonetta literally made me quit Sm4sh, only change that made me want to quit a game
@tsil82144 жыл бұрын
I find it funny they didn't mention meta knight from brawl. The setup was perfect.
@oscarvinicios4 жыл бұрын
@@dreadcrimson7966 Like meta knight still does i melee?
@lukesimmonds46954 жыл бұрын
GOATS killed Overwatch for me
@willdg81084 жыл бұрын
why, imo goats was pretty fun and skill intensive. you did need a very coordinated team to play though. It was way better than bunker or double snipers.
@Goongoobman4 жыл бұрын
I have flash backs when I hear brig
@chasemccray14604 жыл бұрын
The game really started to go downhill for me when they added brigitte
@noahleach76904 жыл бұрын
Dude goats was not skill intensive, maybe at the highest level but it really wasn’t, like at all, for most players anyway.
@neptunemedia87464 жыл бұрын
Goats was the most fun ive had in Overwatch BY FAR
@meganaxelia4 жыл бұрын
I used to play Elder Scrolls Online, and that game had the worst metas of all time. The devs could never balance.
@eskimose60734 жыл бұрын
Fortnite as well
@zyrkor90984 жыл бұрын
ah yeah the 2018 Magicka Nightblade meta because they were the only class that could sustain
@wandeezpso21144 жыл бұрын
Disagree because TESO is a game where skill matter at first. In pvp you can perform realy good with 80% of specs, and the remaining 20% are not especially weak but sometimes their gameplay only works for some type of battles like 1v1 or cyrodil. About PvE it’s the same. You can do every raid achievements with 90% of specs. But player just copy top players who only aim for score pushing that of course will take the more optimized compositions to do so. So yeah some classes tend to be stronger by a little in some aspects depending on the patch but definitely not enough to be called broken. Atm and for almost a year meta has been pretty descent in my opinion.
@vandakaii28934 жыл бұрын
OMFG This... I got so sick of being destroyed by nothing but Magicka Nightblade and Magicka Dragon and fkin Werewolves....
@n3onvalkyrie9364 жыл бұрын
That game just sucks in general
@TankedMush4 жыл бұрын
Defintley not professional play but an honourable mention is destiny 2. Every meta haha. Specifically the prometheus lens when it dropped. What the absolute f*ck.
@rajeshsawant24744 жыл бұрын
One Eyed Mask meta all the way
@sirbudz50954 жыл бұрын
@@rajeshsawant2474 d1 last word/ thorn was much worse
@esteB4M4 жыл бұрын
Lazer tag pew pew
@Sheenulus4 жыл бұрын
People in Destiny 2 just hate whenever whatever they themselves don’t use is meta. Shotgun players hate Snipers, Snipers hate Shotguns, hand cannon and pulse players hate auto rifles, auto rifle players hate when hand cannons and pulses are meta, scout rifle players... don’t exist,.
@connorwilliams5744 жыл бұрын
Awww I remember laser tag week, that was by far the most broken thing I've seen
@PrismariLaura4 жыл бұрын
My favorite part of the SG 553 meta in CS:GO is how the weapon was literally the same from 2014 through 2018, after which it received a price reduction and people finally noticed it was actually a good gun all along, maintaining popularity even after the price went back to the standard 3000. Took the players four years to notice the gun was relevant. I can't get over that hahahaha
@nuevoanime4 жыл бұрын
It was bc it was considered a noob-bot weapon
@sieevansetiawan47924 жыл бұрын
And community still don't understand how OP autosnipers are.
@TheAlex118804 жыл бұрын
@@sieevansetiawan4792 Because they aren't? A good AWPer will always beat the autosniper. Autosnipers are good for spamming for some wallbangs, but aside from that, they just cost too much.
@superspies3211 ай бұрын
Actually this gun existed from the beginning of Half Life: Counterstrike mods. So it cost community decades to find out how broken it is.
@PrismariLaura10 ай бұрын
@@superspies32 the previous iterations weren't as powerful as the sg 553 though. Source's one, for example, couldn't kill in one headshot.
@coocoocake62434 жыл бұрын
Honestly i miss old overwatch, if GOATS hadn’t changed it to what it is now
@alexandrecuny21864 жыл бұрын
andoo boi I agree so much... I wish we could go back to before Brigitte and never release that fking stupid character
@cyaqc71974 жыл бұрын
@@alexandrecuny2186 BRO I AGREE MORE THAN U EVER THINK
@Mongoliantiger4 жыл бұрын
@@alexandrecuny2186 so you would rather play double sniper 3 tanks mercy or deathball? Goats was best
@Mongoliantiger4 жыл бұрын
@@cyaqc7197 wake up
@Kaz9999984 жыл бұрын
@@Mongoliantiger Yeah that's why the vast majority of your game's fanbase has been wanting it gone
@weertangel72314 жыл бұрын
I remember the Fungal meta, it was a time where Zerg players ruled, before Protoss took over the torch.
@Alex-qn9og4 жыл бұрын
It was also Infested Terran meta
@thundereagle41304 жыл бұрын
I feel the Swarmhost meta was worse. You had boring games that took hours.
@donkochonaromius79824 жыл бұрын
but i still enjoyed watching sc2 back then. The race for terran and toss to break the zerg before he got his greater spire.
@papita_vTuberFan3 жыл бұрын
Yeah i enjoyed it back in the day as well. I never felt SC 2 got so imbalanced that made a lesser player steal the game
@iNovaburn4 жыл бұрын
Leeroy Smith from Tekken would like a word with the creator of this video. At least give the dude an honorable mention
@madil22594 жыл бұрын
I agree, i was thinking it was going to on the list.
@FGirao4 жыл бұрын
Yesssss Ruined the entire Evo japan single handedly
@Goku30010004 жыл бұрын
Oh My Gosh leeroy was cancer, players that literally played the same character for years picked him. That was some real BS
@kameron12904 жыл бұрын
My friend who played competitively said that almost everyone played Leeroy in that time, which he was unprepared since it was so new.
@CrittingOut4 жыл бұрын
Ah season 7, back when adc was a fun and viable role, because another role boosted it up.
@heitornetto70944 жыл бұрын
it definitly wasnt fun for the other 4 people.
@blackbelt8074 жыл бұрын
ah yes because deaths dance aphelios wasnt op at all..
@sfsreiq4 жыл бұрын
@@blackbelt807 Sett says hi.
@oliverbehrer52524 жыл бұрын
Da gab es auch noch i porte durch die kluft und hab 99% banrate kassawin
@chuckchuk51574 жыл бұрын
Aphelios still broken play that 2nd time at diamond 1 got lane bullied but came late game down 1 item still win my team fight cause cait face check my mini turret on bush with sniper passive kill her lol.
@PAI-Ghypu4 жыл бұрын
Leroy meta from Tekken 7 the beginning of the year was something as well. The whole roster could be used somewhere before Leroy’s release. After the release, EVO Japan had like a 75% pick rate on him alone as well as a person who was a character loyalist; dropping his character and winning the tourney in the end
@adamismail28834 жыл бұрын
Lol they recently made a video on that
@din0chickennuggets4 жыл бұрын
Sorry guys, nothing makes you feel like you're actually losing the game when you're winning like facing a XF3 Dark Phoenix/Vergil in MVC3.
@dannygeorge91314 жыл бұрын
REAL OG here ^
@nihonii33414 жыл бұрын
Might wanna give some context about that? Did that like break the game? I know Vergil in that game is already pretty strong, but just curious
@mystuhmusic4 жыл бұрын
@@nihonii3341 with X Factor 3 and Dark phoenix, she has so much damage and raw power that she can chip an entire team to death in the matter of seconds, let alone all the infinites she has in that state. You can literally play the game flawlessly up until the fact that you gave the Phoenix player full bar and still lose without touching her.
@bigmach68124 жыл бұрын
Does feel bad, but thats the point of MVC3 its made to be broken, many characters have infinites in that game. That broken gameplay is what makes it special/hype, like when justin wong won evo 2014 defeating some of the best players using said characters with a relatively weak team.
@mystuhmusic4 жыл бұрын
@@bigmach6812 oh yeah, honestly some of the most hype moments in the FGC came from people bopping dark phoenix since it seemed like such an inevitable fate. Ageojoe's frank west strat on filipino champ at FRXV had me jumping out of my seat lol.
@supersonic48634 жыл бұрын
it seems they forgot about brawl, like holy hell meta knight was straight up bullcrap.
@angelva554 жыл бұрын
Yea but at least Meta Knight was fun to watch. Not to mention for the last 2 or so years of Brawl’s lifespan, MK wasn’t played that much in comp. I’d rather sit thru a tournament of MK dittos than a tournament of Bayo dittos
@sherperdtarp4 жыл бұрын
William Parker not to mention that MK dittos has a lot of depth behind them. One wrong move and you were fucked.
@williamle18844 жыл бұрын
They were talking about the metas that made people want to stop playing, not the ones that cultivated extremely skillful and hype matches and single handedly carried its e-sport's career until people found more skill and hype in Melee.
@LuxusCharka4 жыл бұрын
*went back to melee* :)
@pharoahman4754 жыл бұрын
Meta Knight was probably more OP then Bayo, but Brawl didn't have a thriving competetive community when he was introduced. Hell I think Bayonetta is the reason Ultimates DLC's been alright but not top tier outside of Joker or some really really good terrys.
@goblin1114 жыл бұрын
14:32 Fs for my boy zero his expresion says: why are we still here just to suffer
@HotteaLT4 жыл бұрын
Hey theScore team, how about a series of stories specifically on esports teams' coaches, not only the ones standing behind the players on drafts/during matches, but also staff/analysts or any other vital members of an org?
@bosoxdanc14 жыл бұрын
Lmaooo, the R8 release was absolutely bonkers. That was a fun few days.
@sasharilay44794 жыл бұрын
Yea especially being allowed to shoot with rmb while defusing
@jijmotorp30794 жыл бұрын
As a non pro player this was the most fun time i had in csgo.
@jonathanlarosa18014 жыл бұрын
ubi: what should we give chimera attack op? also ubi: HACKS
@Nax_uthala4 жыл бұрын
Number 8: When it's always High Noon
@kaladin61994 жыл бұрын
More starcraft 2 content please. It always makes me smile whenever I see a score esports video about starcraft
@cursedex804 жыл бұрын
Let's be honest here: Captain Zach was mostly hated for IRL taunting his opponents on win... and later for a lot of other reasons...
@NikoJr.4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Lima and Tamim are decent enough guys, Zach just breeds toxicity whether he tries to or not
@ericpontarelli16904 жыл бұрын
Zach was a big instigator of so many problems in the community
@joshgutteridge29093 жыл бұрын
What he did to nario back in july was awful.
@enzobrouwers4 жыл бұрын
PEAK GOATS were the best matches I've ever watched, but everything that wasn't PEAK GOATS was really boring to watch
@ryanmackie69364 жыл бұрын
cant forget the time where bumper was alphad by Ameng
@birdbr4in_3834 жыл бұрын
@@ryanmackie6936 yes
@VesselSplat4 жыл бұрын
RIP Bumper
@Hummabubba4 жыл бұрын
Agreed. The Shock v. Titans Stage One Finals of Season 2 was one of the greatest, if not the greatest, Overwatch I had ever seen. But that's just the top 1% of GOATS play, even at the pro level. Anything short of that was awful.
@ImFeja4 жыл бұрын
Yea, otherwise it was basically tanks vs tanks trying to find someone to mess up then win fight from there, stun, dive, and then win. Boring as fuck.
@aubade_14 жыл бұрын
It would be incredibly easy to make a list of this with just League of Legends metas. Lethality/Assassin meta: Everyone can oneshot you Tank meta: Nothing can kill tanks because their items were busted Ardent meta: ADC/support 2v5 the game juggernaut Meta: What's new Banner of Command meta: Buff up a cannon minion and sit there. Mage Bot Lane (adc's were no longer valid): ADC's no longer did damage, mages replaced them. *Here's the big one you guys missed* : Funnel. BASICALLY: Mid laner plays a support, Jungle plays a carry and gets mid + jungle gold, then watch them scale and win at 30 minutes.
@lambdadeltasfanclubmanager90784 жыл бұрын
i miss the lethality era 😭 i loved spamming the shit out of miss fortune cuz i basically won the game after getting a duskblade and youmuus
@lesbazyra4 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Let's not mention 4x BC Talon/Zed/Panth meta.
@iopweise89224 жыл бұрын
Mages bot were awsome and still are, a shame you can't pick them every game anymore!
@Foahninny3 жыл бұрын
When Dark Harvest first came out I uninstalled League of Legends until they fixed it. The game I left had 9 players with Dark Harvest and I was died from almost half hp to Brand E. Uninstalled the game immediately and waited for Riot to see some sense.
@cadenhenderson43223 жыл бұрын
Remember League of Thunderlord’s?
@phoenixflamegames13 жыл бұрын
Oh my god true......
@abcdc1973 жыл бұрын
@@cadenhenderson4322 Legue of Stopwatch was most hillarious. Literally everyone had it and early fights used to go forever just as somebody is about to die they use it then another one uses and another one. I don't think anyone on any champion entered a game without Inspiration tree runes. At least in Thunderlords meta some auto attackers still ran Fervor of Battle.
@Хаген-е1ы4 жыл бұрын
The Kreig meta made me want to jump off a bridge: make it a skyscraper
@endro75034 жыл бұрын
It's always interesting when guns are discovered to be OP without any buffs. The cz, ump, aug/krieg. I wonder if there are more secretely OP guns we don't play to their full potential. The mp9 is a contender but not in the same league as the other ones.
@ennex_34 жыл бұрын
@@endro7503 Right. The five seven and autoshotty are also contenders in my opinion.
@jaythirt20394 жыл бұрын
@@ennex_3 The autoshotty already gets some play on nuke if you hold mini.
@mindcaztackerman11604 жыл бұрын
Haven't seen the video but as a League player, Ardent Cancer meta is 100% gonna be here.
@alexandrecorbineau21073 жыл бұрын
Fun fact regarding the broodlord infestor meta in Starcraft 2 : It came back in 2019 and it was even worse than before. It lasted one year, and top Z players pretty much never lost a late game situation with this comp
@superspies3211 ай бұрын
I watched many Serra games during that time and super hurt since I am Terran olayers
@severalkorveks1384 жыл бұрын
Age of Empires: Spanish Workers Rush War for the Overworld: Behemoth Rush Dungeon Keeper 2: Black Knight Rush Warcraft 3: Keeper Fungle CoD Mw 2019: M4 and MP5 (till this day) RB6 Siege: BlackBeard Blitz, or Ela SC II: Masa's Proxy against Scalett
@btkger4 жыл бұрын
I would add MP7 and GRAU on Modern Warfare, laser beams literally.
@loganernest94994 жыл бұрын
MW2s Akimbo 1887's : Pre-nerf
@dustyacer4 жыл бұрын
wait what. For AOE2, spanish worker rush isn't even that great, its barely ever played at top level. its a late game strategy and villagers don't even autoatk.
@mttkra4 жыл бұрын
@@loganernest9499 Meh, call of duty is a twitch based shooter. Positioning matters more. Sure 1887s were better than every other shotgun in the game, but shot guns weren't all that good unless you were on console.
@batja27194 жыл бұрын
Im not gonna lie i loved when the revolver got released, people spaming chat after you one shot them across the map was fun.
@realenew4 жыл бұрын
also the only time people new in the patch throw away awps for revolvers
@valcant9404 жыл бұрын
The weird thing about the Sg553 is that its been like that for a long time. Only when the price got reduced and people started you know using it suddenly it became op
@Koli-.-4 жыл бұрын
Goats omfg. Thank god its gone.
@asiancynical46824 жыл бұрын
Remember when the deagle got insanely accurate when jumping
@julianpereznunez9814 жыл бұрын
Yup
@sn4ke164 жыл бұрын
i still couldnt use it for shit lmao
@sushiroll37954 жыл бұрын
Y'all remember the Téa burn meta in Duel Links? Dear God, the "interactive" gameplay.
@ethanherrera15524 жыл бұрын
ugh
@xolotltolox76263 жыл бұрын
Technically not e-sports, but do you remember the 8 months of Firewall running rampant in yugioh
@bolornn41494 жыл бұрын
To people who dont know Smash 4’s bayonetta, just imagine a fighting game character who has a lot of mobility and can kill off of almost any attack plus she is still safe if the enemy blocks it. That’s not even all as she can also slow time or teleport away briefly after getting damaged.....
@leviking38284 жыл бұрын
she even got nerfed really badly, and was still by far the best character in the game and the best smash character in history imo
@deathbringer98934 жыл бұрын
to be fair alot of the chars didnt have alot of tools to even counter her and the way smash is played makes her even worse a character like that wouldnt work that much in any other fg
@XC113019914 жыл бұрын
Funny part is, towards the end of Sm4sh Esam was consistently taking out all the Bayo's, finally making his "Pikachu busted" have some merit in at least being a counterpick to the best character in the game.
@deathbringer98934 жыл бұрын
@@XC11301991 it might not be a counter pick it could of been all of esams skill
@Kaz9999984 жыл бұрын
@@leviking3828 Lol uh no Brawl MK would DESTROY Smash 4 Bayo
@nriso86804 жыл бұрын
They really put an Ultimate clip in the Bayonetta montage huh
@Nowel222224 жыл бұрын
Lol wtf
@Ramsey276one4 жыл бұрын
Better graphics?
@FakieStreams4 жыл бұрын
"222 role lock changing how we play overwatch" mhmm. Let me introduce to you my friends "bunker" and "pharmercy".
@kyogremaster76934 жыл бұрын
Remove bastion from the game
@cennix3 жыл бұрын
@@kyogremaster7693 yes pls
@Residual_gaming4 жыл бұрын
Man watching LoL having never played it before, looks crazy 😂😂
@n3onvalkyrie9364 жыл бұрын
Its definitely hard to watch at first
@angelva554 жыл бұрын
N3ON Valkyrie its also hard to play at first. But you start to get into it real fast
@cultovcrows81424 жыл бұрын
Pro gameplay is literally NOTHING like normal gameplay
@Shyuthrosnaevin4 жыл бұрын
Yeah i never have any clue what's going on onscreen and people are popping off and losing their shit and I'm just like "what happened?"
@heatstreak4 жыл бұрын
You should watch Dota 2 then. Much more complex and fast.
@mohammadalam74594 жыл бұрын
I thought the mercy meta in overwatch wad pretty bad too. She was a must pick to win at one point. Idk if it deserves to be on the list tho
@8enn4 жыл бұрын
I think it should have been liked 10th
@Cozzamanini4 жыл бұрын
OWL teams tried running 3 tanks and 3 supports before GOATS came around. The only thing stopping it at that point (end of season 1) was Mercy... Then she got nerfed.
@tragic_solitude79924 жыл бұрын
3 tank meta with Ana and Lucio was cancer lol.
@kwayke94 жыл бұрын
Every meta from season 3 all the way to the goats ban was bad tbh (except the short time after Bio nade was nerfed)
@a5noble24 жыл бұрын
That broodlord infestor meta was the most broken thing in SC2. Protoss players even tried building Phoenix's which are air to air specialists but even they got locked down by the fungal growth. Like how is a flying unit gonna get rooted in place?!
@superspies3211 ай бұрын
Terran players got the worst: parasite from Infestor
@remybories37184 жыл бұрын
theScore esports : *presents the Ardent Censer meta in LoL* me, an intellectual : HoW aBoUt ThE tAnK mEtA ???
@sinbad64964 жыл бұрын
Aaaaaaaah yes, hauntzer's nautilus tanking nexus towers forever without taking any damage or Cho'gat killing you in your fountain when you play solo queue. What a GREAT TIME.
@zanehisako14164 жыл бұрын
i thougt it was n1 but wow many of my people quite league back then it was by far the worst meta ever
@ilewdlolis9394 жыл бұрын
It's seems like every meta is tank meta Remember when they killed ADC?
@Paardenschijt50004 жыл бұрын
What about the banner of command meta? Was probably the funniest meta
@SinfulSaint01024 жыл бұрын
Was this the Cinderhulk Jungler/Courage of the Colossus meta? Back when every team had like 3 tanks minimum?
@achromatic86374 жыл бұрын
Props for the Evangelion x UNIQLO shirt Daniel, mine's on the way right now too!
@contractualnews94884 жыл бұрын
Player: we want League of legends balance.. Riot: hisssss
@maestrosyrex4 жыл бұрын
Daniel having a Pikachu cosmetic behind him after talking about broken things I want to uninstall youtube
@sakigamijojo77164 жыл бұрын
some Dota 2 special mentions: - illusion meta. imagine the enemy destroying your base without any consequences (illusions doesn't give gold yet when killed) - Leshrac meta. with heavy aoe slow that can setup the aoe stun plus 2 other hi dps aoe skills, no wonder he was perma banned in pro matches - Morph + ES one. imagine giving an already hi damage burst hero: 2 aoe stuns plus another burst ability.
@gamma2764 жыл бұрын
I remember the Morph + ES meta well. Made me scared enough to build anything that was magic defense or health every game a morph was picked against me. Also remember the Tinker meta? Hour plus games were so common I'd block out at least an hour and a half for a game so I would have enough time if there was a Tinker (in that patch, there almost always was).
@Lunar1us4 жыл бұрын
Do another one with One Eyed Mask and Lord Of The Wolves from Destiny 2. One Eyed Mask was so broken that playing any other class aside from Titan wasn't worth it. Lord of the Wolves was broken for an entire season and it was even paired with One Eyed Mask
@nygoon4 жыл бұрын
No body plays Destiny 2 talk about the black hammer in Destiny 1 and actual good game
@ChorfTV4 жыл бұрын
What about the Recluse meta? Made me wanna off myself every time I played crucible.
@vascoalves004 жыл бұрын
The lazer weekend? Okay... Not as much time as the other actual metas... But still a horrible time in crucible ^^'
@JJumper88884 жыл бұрын
Somebody in here remember the fckfest D1 crucible was back in the days with the sniper shotgun meta? I still remember getting kills with my Felwinters that were straight up unfair
@galatine72864 жыл бұрын
Come on, Swarm Host on HotS
@AlexB33334 жыл бұрын
What game again? PepeLaugh
@necrogon224 жыл бұрын
that was worse than infestor broodlord imo
@kaladin61994 жыл бұрын
@@AlexB3333 Starcraft 2
@antitroll90994 жыл бұрын
@Joey Turkey Come on, no one wants to hear you talk shit about Starcraft 2.
@John-wy3jn4 жыл бұрын
15:30 dude I was there for this game, the crowd was PISSED man. And one of the staff had to like threaten both of them with disqualification just so they would play the game.
@FloatingShorts4 жыл бұрын
I like how he's telling him to move first like wtf I'd be pissed watching it
@juicepouch14 жыл бұрын
Wasn't it around this time that the community would just get up and leave at gf if it was a mirror? That was the most damning thing for Nintendo imo
@piranhaplant84834 жыл бұрын
I loved Smash 4, but playing against Bayo felt like making one mistake could cost you the game. That feeling was the worst. Thankfully, I had amazing friends who never touched Bayo so I could still enjoy the game
@DedikateSSB4 жыл бұрын
You know a guns broken when valve fixes it in just a few days.
@maxnew4534 жыл бұрын
The crowd reacting to the GOATS Comp really gives off a negative vibe to non overwatch players
@Altergeist4 жыл бұрын
I played during this shit, the reaction was correct
@holgerrson4 жыл бұрын
The game had to strangle its player base to stop a meta
@Altergeist4 жыл бұрын
I quit before they imimated 2/2/2 and holy shit I was just a plat rank almost diamond the rank is low asf and all u saw every game pahra merci or goats or even both (yes I was a console player)
@OsKarMike13064 жыл бұрын
If it makes you feel any better, number 1 shows the most infamous EVO Grand Finals in history. A competitive community that already struggles to be boradcasted and we get 1 minute of stalling at the biggest stage for that game, competitors being booed for choosing the most obviously broken character. It's a good thing Ultimate came later that year because Sm4sh was dying fast after that display.
@Altergeist4 жыл бұрын
@@OsKarMike1306 I've heard of this allot from the smash community. Hbox and those 2 sure the game was unbalanced but the community crossed a line imagen we made fun of every team because they used lion smh
@alephcake2 жыл бұрын
TF2: Pyro Phlogistinator + Vaccinator Medic Phlog: deal a measly 300 damage to have guaranteed crits for a couple of seconds Vac: You have 4 very quick loading charges that basically make you invulnerable for a combined 10 seconds, or help you get out of a corner, etc. Basically crits deal 3x the normal damage and with how gimmicky the fire particles and the range of the fire is it is more than triggering to play against. In fact, you can kill a hard counter with 300hp in less than 3 seconds.
@rodrigoeyzaguirre49544 жыл бұрын
Hearthstone - Patron Warrior EVERYONE GET IN HERE!!!
@iamahorseradish38604 жыл бұрын
Wild quest mage right now
@ziptnf4 жыл бұрын
I'd say Undertaker meta was more oppressive. You just would win the game on t1
@shenyaowong16834 жыл бұрын
There was a period where the whole ladder was secret Paladin
@ZiyadAzouny4 жыл бұрын
Demon Hunter early meta lmao
@lucasng47124 жыл бұрын
disagree. Hard to play
@handsonfire61134 жыл бұрын
if the R6 "yellow meta" is not here i'm out edit: ok you called it the lion meta, ubi made an operator to try and counter it, warden
@AD-df5tm4 жыл бұрын
Warden doesn't counter the yellow meta. He countered the smoke/flash and plant meta (which was nerfed out of the game before he even released). The yellow meta was pretty much just lion being insanely broken or people running Lion, Finka and Blitz (hence the yellow name) and steamrolling defences
@Big_smoked4 жыл бұрын
Bruh what part of wardens gadget counters lion
@jouille45244 жыл бұрын
What? Warden counters smoke plants, the only OPs that can counter Lion scans are Vigil and Mute AFAIK
@xanderwyatt82344 жыл бұрын
Warden came out way after Lion was nerfed and his ability has no interaction with Lion. Warden was introduced to counter the flash smoke meta with ying and glaz, usually with blitz as well as another set of smokes.
@iflashbangdogs76764 жыл бұрын
@@xanderwyatt8234 i always saw ying, monty, blitz, lion and who ever else they wanted to throw at us
@williampurser46694 жыл бұрын
I remember when assassins were the meta in League. Couldn't walk two bloody steps without a gank coming from your own base, I swear.
@zandromex89854 жыл бұрын
@Hachiman Hikigaya Nah they are still pretty meta, specially in solo queue. From what I've seen tho Kha'zix seems to be pretty good in pro play
@Sprouze23 жыл бұрын
That's still how I feel playing ADC's.
@jnplnrvl95814 жыл бұрын
They forgot the IO-domi-aghs of OG. It ruined pubs for months even causing players to leave a match and accept the penalties for it when there's an IO on the game.
@kratosgow3424 жыл бұрын
The thing is that meta isn’t easy to play you need pretty good coordinated team to make it work a good example when Team Secret tried to play the meta it didn’t work
@casualnerd_it82804 жыл бұрын
0:28 “the worst meta we ve ever seen” Just the everyday life of a league player
@blushingralseiuwu22224 жыл бұрын
Come here to Dota 2, we almost never got disastrous patch. Praise Icefrog the balance god!
@LEC1857-6inFinalsGotReverseSwe4 жыл бұрын
Blushing Ralsei UwU 6.85 dota patch was the worst.
@ramxavier46274 жыл бұрын
@@blushingralseiuwu2222 dotas even worse theyre so slow at balancing it takes months for them to patch something, atleast league has faster patches even if sometimes it becomes unbalanced
@angelva554 жыл бұрын
The Myriad LoL releases a patch every single week lol
@bigmegas4 жыл бұрын
@@ramxavier4627 purposed? So quality doesn't matter in LoL? Make sense... XD
@gorpflunge4 жыл бұрын
Some of my picks -Ela pre-patch -MW2 pre-patch 1892 akimbo -Pre-nerf Baby Face Blaster meta -2 speed blitz -Pre nerfed shugoki
@khalil89884 жыл бұрын
13:06 Me going to shoot my shot with my crush 13:09 Me remembering im not a 6 foot lightskin with curly hair
@willho42024 жыл бұрын
How come you guys always forget when Banner Of Command was built by literally every champ because it was so strong? imo it was hilarious but my god was it broken
@borofreak4 жыл бұрын
And don't forget Zz'Rot Portal............
@kimjawheela4 жыл бұрын
Duskblade meta.
@uniklae4 жыл бұрын
League of black cleaver
@HugostarGames4 жыл бұрын
@@kimjawheela who cares about duskblade, duskblade was useless if ur 0/4, but with banner of command, you could just win the game while being 0/20
@hpintrepid4 жыл бұрын
Me sit top. Me buy BoC and ZZRot. Me 0/10/0. Me win game. "haha top bad xd :)"
@cadenhenderson43223 жыл бұрын
As a League player I figured the Juggernaut meta would be here. Just for extra info to show how ridiculous of a change this was: Riot frequently reworks entire champions’ kits to make them more interesting or balanced. For the first time ever, Riot attempted to rework a class of characters all in the same patch. Following this, one of the characters Skarner got the highest Solo play winrate of all time. Darius, (the champion getting pentakills in the clips) basically was able to kill everybody in 2 hits once he had killed 1 person. Mordekaiser was able to summon dragons, and obviously Gangplank was 100% pick/banned. Most of the changes from this update were eventually removed if not nerfed into the ground.
@pantelismichael87564 жыл бұрын
Everybody in chat: GOATS
@cabrondemente14 жыл бұрын
@@soohapark6215 Mercy meta didn't last long however, 2~3 months before she got nerfed into oblivion.
@Yasviele4 жыл бұрын
@@soohapark6215 all they had to do was to adjust one character for that, but for goats they had to change the way everyone played, the system of the game itself, they nerfed US and our options just to kill goats, fuck that....
@TheOuroborosLoop4 жыл бұрын
Hey does anyone remember "True Tier 0 Cyber Angels" in Duel Links? It was literally just a coin flip game at that point.
@OizenX4 жыл бұрын
That acutally didnt bother me as much as the Six Sam meta, where the entire game was either getting to fight Shi En with dual weild or Lava Golem Weevile spam. I actually dropped the game for months because of it.
@CaDeYbOi4 жыл бұрын
Amazonesses: *laughs in banishment*
@thefootballer7774 жыл бұрын
Missed broken meta: Age of Empires 2: DE - The Cuman civilization was arguably the most broken civ the franchise has seen when DE was first released. Economy: only civ that can make two town centers in feudal age giving an amazing eco advantage while also providing safety. Military: Unique unit was a cavalry archer with instant firing that benefited from the civ's faster cavlary bonus making it very powerful with micro/hit and run tactics. The steppe lancer was relatively inexpensive, stacked on top of themselves to a ridiculous degree, and had one range as a melee unit which meant you could stack 40 in a tiny space where they could all hit a building or units at the same time. Goodbye castle. They even destroyed their natural counters of halberdiers and camels. Top it off with feudal age access to rams and an incredible late game siege tech tree, and it was no surprise why players who constantly picked cumans were entering the forums asking why everyone was resigning as soon as the game started. They didn't want to waste 30 minutes dying to your cheat code civ.
@jorymcintosh58494 жыл бұрын
Holy crap that's all incredibly broken. It would have been borderline broken just with access to two TCs in feudal, but adding the rest? What were they thinking
@ChriseFTW4 жыл бұрын
As a main tank I loved goats it was a comp about strategy and brains and was entertaining to watch but im glad they brought in 2-2-2 it really saved the game currently I think overwatch is in the best states its ever been in, Comfort picks are welcome games balanced and has variety