The Top Five Amps In 2024

[@davidpggarrett]

Great point about the reason why many people are not shipping amps. I just sold my '68 Custom Vibro Champ on a non-Reverb site as pick-up only for cash, so no shipping worries and, most importantly, no fees and no tax 🤫

[@komeen]

Same here. I always sell as pick-up only for the same reason. No shipping costs/chance of damage and no taxes/fees.

[@AuntAlnico4]

So did you sell your item yet or not ? Usually it's not likely to sell any where near as fast as when you ship.

[@marions.120]

No broken tubes either!

[@steveo4253]

Recently picked up a ToneX and quite pleased with it. Been using tube amps for over 35 years and still do.

[@Smart-Alex]

I have replaced all my tube amps (Vox, Marshall, Fender) with a Boss Katana Artist Gen 3 combo. It is absolutely incredible and I have focused on beautiful, quality guitars. Happy new year!

[@brianmckenzie1318]

You know that thought has crossed my mind! I only play at home, so why not concentrate on becoming a better player instead of trying to replicate exact specific tones. Even Phil says "if it's close enough, that is good by him"!

[@Smart-Alex]

@@brianmckenzie1318 I use their models but I also run pedals into the clean channel of the amp, including a Revv G3. It's a sensational amp.

[@aaronperrotta7055]

Good thinking. There's so much good equipment out today, even affordable stuff, that you don't have to have big honking rigs. I haven't been able to turn an amp up past 3 at a gig in years anyway lol.

[@ampman5863]

Regarding the Hot Rod amp preamp, all Hot Rod series amps have all-tube signal path except for reverb. But it's not digital reverb. There is a genuine Accutronics spring reverb tank that have TL 072 op-amp drivers.

[@Rigjoker64]

You got it completely backward about the hot rod. Tube for the clean preamp and no tube for the reverb :-)

[@wesleymorris1]

Noone many people buy tube amps off reverb, shipping is expensive. See what sweetwater percentages are.

[@scottbyrne4965]

V1 in a Hot Rod Deluxe is a 12ax7 and is part of the clean channel preamp (may be part of the drive channel, as well, IDK (don't use it)). A common mod, stock on the George Benson model, is to replace that with a 12at7 or 12at7 to tame the volume. Did it years ago, still using it.

[@motoki1]

It’s a good move. Worked great on my deville.

[@callaway5148]

Every Carr amp gives you that "why would i play anything else" feeling. Despite owning one myself, I still played the Helix because of volume, both at home and on stage at church. Eventually I sold it. I think the direction tube amps need to go is with the lower power settings and attenuators built in. Some of the boutique builders are going that direction and I think that's smart.

[@bluemonday4369]

Morgan AC 20 does this. I have one. Can play it in my bedroom or an outdoor stage. Most versatile amp I've ever owned.

[@toddj9548]

"Good tone is heavy and hard to carry"- Tom Bukovac.

[@judyfriedsam457]

Tone is in the ears of the listener...

[@BigBoss1292]

No modeler can replicate the feeling I get cranking a Marshall JCM800 or Bassman or absolutely overpowering everyone by turning a Twin Reverb up to 4 😂

[@gabrielmesquita]

I agree 100% , but technology is getting close

[@dr.buzzvonjellar8862]

Amplified Nation, anything they make, Volume on 3.75, everything else at 2 O’Clock

[@didamnesia3575]

I love my Amplified Nation SSS amp. Just amazing. Worth every penny.

[@TheCyberMantis]

Hard to beat the value of the Boss Katana. The new Gen3 head is the way to go.

[@HarryBall-fw7pv]

I believe the phase inverter tube also is adding gain/ higher voltage at the same time. Like two tubes in one

[@thisdyingsoul76]

I will keep using my tube amps as long as I can afford to buy tubes. I am watching the amp sim/DI market very closely, though. I feel like it's just a matter of time before they have them down to where I can't tell the difference in how the digital model reacts to playing dynamics and guitar control adjustments in a way that I can no longer distinguish digital vs tube.

[@scottfromsouthcarolina3185]

Finding tubes is problematic and expensive including outright shortages to deal with.

[@pedroleal7118]

All is good and new and practical tools are welcome, but when you took a lifetime to perfect your tube amp sound , 'all digital' won't cut it (yes they're getting and better at it). Maybe the everyday touring musician, will go for the most practical, but, back at home, I bet he'll keep he's beloved tube amp, and occasionally taking it out ...! ps have you check the 'middle of the road ' solution ? The Thomas Blug Amp1 and siblings (Mercury & Iridium), soon to be overlooked over the AmpX ? It's the perfect solution for the 'purists' who want practicability, a full fledged nano-tube, 4 channels, 100w amp ...!

[@olddogguitars23]

How much do you think the numbers are skewed simply because people aren’t trying to ship or pay for shipping on a used tube app? I suspect most tube amp sales occur off of reverb or other sites that typically involve shipping.

[@MattSwain1]

There may be some truth in that but it’s largely only real enthusiasts that are buying tube amps today and most of them already have their amp. When you think of amps like the Katana, Fender’s Mustang’s, all the Spark stuff, and then all of the amp-in-a-box things, I’m betting the tube amp market is tiny these days, not just on Reverb

[@briancolston2666]

I love tube amps, but I just play at home these days, so I bought the Friedman IR-J and I run it through a frfr. I haven’t touched my tube amps since. I get the tube sound at a manageable volume and I can use my preferred pedals with it.🤘🏻

[@craigmackenzie2151]

I would consider a Revv combo amp. Nothing else in the solid state world. A guy can source so many old great hand wired amps at every price point. I have an old Regal amp that I picked up for $250. It is amazing and is 57 years old. To each their own but I’m definitely with Johan Segeborn and many more like him, and their love of tubes amps on this one. It’s also entertaining to wire a Mojotone amp and get a great new amp at an affordable price.

[@andrewmuelleranantababaji8073]

Phil have 1999 vox cambridge, great amp first v9x hybred when korg took over still working, pre amp has tube, but power amp is solid state very clean if you want

[@silvel2edge]

That looks like the Wonderland Overdrive in the background - do you still have the Ampliphonix & Gain? Do you have a favorite?

[@joea9608]

If the Ox Box in in the top 5 tube amps are doing just fine....

[@DogsLife12]

To be fair, the Hot Rod Deluxe, the Blues Deluxe, the Blues Junior, all of the signal chain is tube driven. The only solid state amplification is the reverb and the effects loop circuits. That doesn't mean they're the best designed tube amps out there, but I'd still pick any one over a Spark or Katana.

[@tymanngruter1808]

Does Sovtek tubes still exists? I liked to use them! 👍

[@robertchesser7758]

Great video, excellent information.

[@willhaylock3769]

I am a very late (68) newcomer to all of this. I am not interested in modellers and trying to chase a million tones - I'd like a good tube amp that can do very clean when needed and clips 'nicely' when driven a little harder. I can get all the other 'tones' I need from my Les Paul, SG, and American Stratocaster and their controls. P.S. my only amp at present is a Boss Katana 50 MK II, it is left on the Panel clean setting but with a little gain and reverb at times. What tube amp combo will do both the clean and the nice (soft) 'clipping' distortion when required.

[@fawkesandhound]

Maybe a Fender Princeton if you’re wanting a true tube amp. Great cleans, has reverb, same size as the Katana 50 and does dirt well with humbuckers.

[@dylanjastle]

Suhr hombre is worth a look. Or just a deluxe reverb reissue from fender

[@ThomasJackMoore]

What about the companies focusing on smaller, quiter, cheaper, lighter weight companies like Supro? They seem to be focused on small amps that are reasonably priced. Do you think that company model would stick around?

[@shawnveneziano9013]

I have a Marshall DSL5cr and it’s practically the same thing and I was wondering that too! Because this sounds much better than a katana or a modeler at the same DB levels! And it’s all tube but with a 10” speaker

[@dividedbytimestudios]

We are spoiled, I mean look at all of in the Helix world begging for Helix Tuah, when there really isn’t much wrong with the first, the older I get the more I just grab for my acoustic and the Tele doesn’t get played near as much cause I feel digital fatigue

[@christophervincent8420]

Either that, or the boutique amps will fold from the lack of purchases

[@crock2434]

I really need the supro delta king 12 in all black...

[@judyfriedsam457]

It's all very subjective. I think while reviews by credible folks such as yourself Phil are useful, there are a number of variables in terms of budget, needs, etc....as to why we chose what we do. Tube amps are more expensive and are generally speaking heavier...and solid state amps can sound phenomenally good...as can some modelers. For most players, blindfolded its very difficult to distinguish the difference between a tube, or solid state amp or a high end modeler or profiler. I just ordered a Roland JC22. 30w for a non touring player who prefers clean tones and likes the fact it has a fx loop, and the I/O's it offers.

[@jeffreyeagen4896]

I bought a Supro Delta King 12, not online but from my local mom and pop music shop. Not interested in modelers.

[@AuntAlnico4]

That's like the best amp for under $600 you can get right now and sounds way better than all the competition. The only thing better than that would be the new EVH 5150 Iconic 40 combo 12 inch speaker ! Awesome amp but you can find em used but still new for $600 and the 15 watt combo can be had under $600 and it's an awesome amp if you don't need major bass freqs which are almost overpowering in the 40 way watt but the 15 watt sound perfect especially into a 412 EVH cabinet with green backs.

[@DigitalChemistryBand]

Guthrie Govan uses a FM3 and the new Laney FR cabs... tell HIM about tone... I dare ya...

[@Bhallmed]

I remember my dad freaking out when i bought an 1968 Fender ProReverb in the mid 1990s. “Cause it was outdated technology!” He was so mad, he also knows nothing about guitars and music.

[@andrewmuelleranantababaji8073]

But was vox AC30 or clean as super beatle. But get tone i need was EHX Mig 50, was chasing my 67 fender bass man head eunninh theu tiny cab ported Jensen black falcon speaker, that what were in my 67 bass man cabinet

[@GypsyLane]

Are these people home users? Or live gigging musicians ?

[@MashaT22]

I always think the same thing. These “Top _____” lists are not scientifically accurate because they’re not including a lot of specific variables. I have said for the last 5 years that they need a social scientist with the knowledge to conduct yearly quantitative and qualitative research to collect and analyze accurate data. Without scientific methods being used, looking at sales lists is pretty useless when there aren’t any hard facts and evidence backing the claims. They need to test a hypothesis (perhaps several) with an independent and dependent variable, and then analyze the attributes depending on the methods used to help construct a better understanding as to why certain products are selling more than others and whatever else they are trying to ultimately test. Your questions are just the tips of the iceberg here. Are we talking bedroom players or working musicians? Are the home players living in apartments with little room or homes with space for amps? Are the working musicians gigging, working at a studio, or traveling elsewhere and how often? What type of music is being played? Then are loads of additional variables that can be considered. Then all of those need to be compared against race, ethnicity, income bracket, gender, country of origin, etc. to get a better sense on how those variables play a role in the sale of items like amps and how players ultimately make their decisions. Oh and don’t forget the source is just Reverb. What about sales data included from other sources like large retailers such as Sweetwater, mom and pop shops, eBay, etc.? The sales data may change drastically if additional sources are factored into the yearly top sales figures. If this isn’t done scientifically, the sales data is ultimately useless and we can be guessing why certain gear sells the most each year until the cows come home. Basically, these top Reverb sales lists are for entertainment purposes only and should actually even say that - it’s pretty silly when they themselves literally don’t make an attempt at studying their own data with any scientific method and evidence.

[@TheSammyreynolds]

You ask a good question, but plenty of gigging musicians use modelers live. You would be surprised at the amount of club venues that won't let you use amps.

[@MashaT22]

I always think the same thing. These “Top _____” lists are not scientifically accurate because there is no actual hypothesis being tested and these lists (or the articles and content that comes from them) are not inclusive and exhaustive of all relevant variables and being properly analyzed. I studied sociology (also early childhood and childhood education) and tutored undergraduate and graduate students at a major NYC based university in research methods for 15 years. I have said for the last 5 years that they need a social scientist with the knowledge and ability to conduct yearly quantitative and qualitative research in order to collect and analyze accurate data that ends up being meaningful rather than meaningless. Without scientific methods being used, looking at sales lists is pretty useless when there aren’t any hard facts and evidence backing the claims. They need to test the collected data using a hypothesis (perhaps several) with an independent and dependent variable, and then analyze the attributes depending on the methods used to help construct a better understanding as to why certain products are selling more than others and whatever else they are trying to ultimately test. Your questions are just the tips of the iceberg here. Are we talking bedroom players or working musicians? Are the home players living in apartments with little room or homes with space for amps? Are the working musicians gigging, working at a studio, or traveling elsewhere and how often? What type of music is being played? Then are loads of additional variables that can be considered. Then all of those need to be compared against race, ethnicity, income bracket, gender, country of origin, etc. to get a better sense on how those variables play a role in the sale of items like amps and how players ultimately make their decisions. Oh and don’t forget the source is just Reverb. What about sales data included from other places like large retailers such as Sweetwater, mom and pop shops, eBay, etc.? The sales data may change drastically if additional sources are factored into the yearly top sales figures. If this isn’t investigated scientifically, the sales data is ultimately useless and we can be guessing why certain gear sells the most each year until the cows come home. Basically, these top Reverb sales lists are for entertainment purposes only and should actually even say that - it’s pretty silly when they themselves literally don’t make an attempt at studying their own data with any scientific method and evidence.

[@MashaT22]

I always think the same thing. These “Top _____” lists are not scientifically accurate because there is no actual hypothesis being tested and these lists (or the articles and content that comes from them) are not inclusive and exhaustive of all relevant variables and being properly analyzed. I studied sociology (also early childhood and childhood education) and tutored undergraduate and graduate students at a major NYC based university in research methods for 15 years. I have said for the last 5 years that they need a social scientist with the knowledge and ability to conduct yearly quantitative and qualitative research in order to collect and analyze accurate data that ends up being meaningful rather than meaningless. Without scientific methods being used, looking at sales lists is pretty useless when there aren’t any hard facts and evidence backing the claims. They need to test the collected data using a hypothesis (perhaps several) with an independent and dependent variable, and then analyze the attributes depending on the methods used to help construct a better understanding as to why certain products are selling more than others and whatever else they are trying to ultimately test. Your questions are just the tips of the iceberg here. Are we talking bedroom players or working musicians? Are the home players living in apartments with little room or homes with space for amps? Are the working musicians gigging, working at a studio, or traveling elsewhere and how often? What type of music is being played? Then are loads of additional variables that can be considered. Then all of those need to be compared against race, ethnicity, income bracket, gender, country of origin, etc. to get a better sense on how those variables play a role in the sale of items like amps and how players ultimately make their decisions. Oh and don’t forget the source is just from one retailer. What about sales data included from other large retailers, mom and pop shops, other similar sites with new/used gear, etc.? The sales data may change drastically if additional sources are factored into the yearly top sales figures. If this isn’t investigated scientifically, the sales data is ultimately useless and we can be guessing why certain gear sells the most each year until the cows come home. Basically, these top sales lists are for entertainment purposes only and should actually even say that - it’s pretty silly when they themselves literally don’t make an attempt at studying their own data with any scientific method and evidence.

[@GypsyLane]

@ So, how does this work? Guitar into pedal board, into modeler, into PA board, and out of your monitor? Separate monitor feeds for each band member, for customized monitoring? Good luck finding a mixer with 4-5 independent aux. sends. I’m intrigued by this set up…is it less, or more work, than the traditional stage configuration?

[@andrewmuelleranantababaji8073]

With ibanez SG copy installed seymours saturday night speciap, les trem, roller bridge, lovkung tuners tusq nut, swear getting barry the fish melt8ne tones im happy tones

[@mgoo1713]

I tried modelers, it's easier to plug into a Joyo sitting on a 1X12 cab with a good speaker. Modelers are faf

[@jacekfz99]

I am surprised Tonex is not #1, what a value for what it delivers

[@BAND-MAID-USA]

I don’t believe for one second the QC was the best selling on Reverb. And to be real, Reverb sucks. Fees, shipping, drama, false advertising etc. I’ll never understand how Reverb is still even in business.

[@stevenkastner5678]

Regarding the Ox Box being in fourth position, I suspect a large portion of Ox Box sales may be attributed to the Ox Stomp, which has no attenuator. It just has the digital side (effects and speaker modeling). I have a Kemper, Tonex, and may buy a FM3 to go with my VP4. And lots of pedals of all kinds. I also own a vintage '68 Bandmaster (born with an AB763 blackface preamp), a Mesa Boogie Rectifier Recording Preamp + 20/20 power amp, lots of cabs, and am planning to buy a Synergy Syn-20IR (which is a single slot Synergy 20 watt tube amp head) when it comes out in February. I love the sounds I can get out of my gear, regardless of whether it is solid state or tube; digital or analog; or a combination of all of these categories. In fact I often mix my hardware and software plugins which includes over 130 UAD2 plugins that run on my Apollos. The Capital Chambers reverb plugin is to die for BTW. I just can't understand why it matters so much what the source of your sound is, when your audience can't really tell any difference between a real tube amp, a model (in a pedal or Fractal, Helix, etc.), a capture / profile (Tonex, Kemper, QC, etc.) or a great amp sim plugin. At least, that's my experience with recording guitars and placing them in a mix. Now, if I was primarily gigging, I'd use an FM3 + VP4 or something similar, simply because at 71, my back can't lug a ton of gear any more. No way I'm carrying my Bandmaster and 2 x 12 cab around like I did in my youth. I'm pretty sure I might be able to discern that my sound wasn't coming from a tube amp, but I doubt many in the audience could tell that I was just using a floor modeler.

[@johnnyguitar-uu3zr]

There's a Good Reason Why , Joe Bonamassa , Kenny Wayne Sheppard, Orianthi , Carlos Santana , JJN, John Mayer , Eric Clapton, David Gilmour To Name a few !!!!! Tone !!!! TUBE TONE !!!!!!!!!!! 📺📺📺📺🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶 Many New Metal bands and others use solid state ,that's ok , i grew up 60's 70's 80's with probably the Best Guitarists era Ever.. and as far as i know Every single one of them used Tube amps. Solid state were available...The big change in Hi FI stereo Amps. and pre amps , receiver's .. Lots of Hi End companies ... But i guess no one was interested in using solid state guitar amps...

[@kladenf03v]

Something to keep in mind is that KZbinrs earn money from making videos not providing the actual truth. Some of the KZbinrs you showed has the equal amount of videos where they praise tube amps. One week it’s one modeller or another, next week it’s a big tube amp. Third week it’s small tube amp

[@davidwood351]

There’s a spectrum of guitar players. Beginner to ultra pro. The newer, beginner folks are always going to upgrade. Some to technology, some to the traditional amps. How many technology players are also going to use quality amps? Wait and see.

[@alexwoolridge94aw]

I've played Kempers live and each time was the lamest guitar experience of my life second only to my first amp which was a 1x8 solid state First Act.

[@pontiacpower421]

stop the cap! jackass

[@gben2457]

A 50 watt tube amp is amazing on stage if you're allowed to turn it up at least half way.

[@pontiacpower421]

@ seriously. A tube amp. Not all tube amps sound good. Also 50 watt to 100 watt is a 3 db difference.

[@alexwoolridge94aw]

@@gben2457 I usually run 15 watt Magnatones live. Attenuators will fix the volume problem.

[@BAND-MAID-USA]

You should get someone to set it up for you then. They’re absolutely incredible and always have been. Hence the biggest bands on earth using them live for well over a decade.

[@jp0blues04]

After a 34 year life playing guy.. when evaluating todays gear always remember this. Respectfully offered ….if you haven’t stood in front of just a single full stack of cabs with a 100 watt plexi (add klon and bit of delay) or high powered 50s twin …. Ur perspective is off. The air moves into ur back as u play this type of rig and knowing how to use them musically is a talent. It’s guteral. Not in volume alone but you truly can and are forced to acquire time and ur bending has to have some meat to it and everything u touch is heard. It’s just odd that posts like this one where everyone is talking about small bedroom amps. Get some chops and confidence then plug into an amp meant for a stage setting. Rock and roll guitar and its current decline period won’t be better for debates on 10 or 20 watt single 12 combos!!!

[@adrianguggisberg3656]

Yeah, I've played such amps on stage, but these times are over. Nobody plays a 100W amp flat out through a double stack on stage, and this développement will never get revertet. The only place a guitarist may need more than 5W is in the rehersal room, but even there 20W is more than plenty. The days of big valve amps are over, never to return. I'm getting rid of my Bassman reissue and Fender DeVille while there's still a market for them, and I already sold my JTM45. These amps are nice and great and everything, but they are no longer useful. Small combos or modelers are the way forward. I chose the Tonemaster route for myself, and I'm glad I did.

[@chadapold1055]

WOW another best of list.....

[@BW_Maher]

Affluent gear bro's have bid the cost of quality tube amps up to the point where first line musicians, who make up the majority of actual performers, can't afford any of that stuff. People are tired of those guys talking down to anybody that doesn't have a stable of original 60's tube amps. You can see why young people have turned to modelers and I suspect they won't go back. Sure, the deep pocket hobbyists will keep buying the bougie gear, their golf buddies don't want to hear about their Kemper or quad cortex, but the people that are actually out there making the music we'll all care about are moving on. Thats how life works. Out with the old, in with the new.

[@hoboroadie4623]

Gee, if I had been paying attention to the hottest trends, I could have saved about a hundred Grand that I wasted on amp IRLs last year. 🤔

[@Frank_KS-c9w]

I don't see Reverb as accurate due to sellers/buyers being reluctant to ship... maybe sweetwater/AMS/GC would be more accurate

[@Sainte305]

I will NEVER stop using tube amps. I despise modelers and solid state amps. I think they sound horrible, most of the time, I refer to them in the same disdain as Strymon pedals.

[@BAND-MAID-USA]

You should learn how to dial the good ones in. Guarantee I could play whatever tube amp you choose, and a high quality modeler and you’d never be able to tell the difference EVER.

[@kennethc2466]

👍

[@joshtorresfdu6621]

I understand it’s a personal thing but you’d never go to a show and say this sounds like a modeler lol

[@DigitalChemistryBand]

Not a tube amp to be seen... ha... Helix lt is a smoking piece of tech...

[@genelott5757]

Those amps aren't for gigging.

[@Adam-wz7pv]

tube amps will not get more expensive because of lack of demand.... it WILL NOT happen.... it's the opposite of the way markets work. Yea, there will be niche brands like there are today .... but the notion that the price will outpace inflation has zero basis in market econsomics... at all. Love your stuff Phil - but i think you're dead wrong on this, and you're dead wrong on your advice to Jeff Kiesel and his pricing. Worth mentioning.... I'm placing an order this week for an Amplified Nation amp....thanks to you.

[@myeyesarewaiting]

Pragmatism wins in the end. It's like import guitars...

[@satchrules101]

Digital modelers amps , Not mot my cup of coffee,

[@Mrlz56]

Your title should say, the top 5 guitar amplifiers beginners and the inexperienced tone seekers buy in 2024. The big issue with a high quality "WELL" built tube amp is the tubes / Valves. Modern offerings are not that good. JJ's 12ax7's are probably the best modern offerings "IF" you're using a good compressor and dirt pedal on your board. In V1 nothing sounds as good as a NOS Mullard ECC83 period. pushed it becomes a beautiful thing, full of harmonic content. They made early Marshals and other amps sing. You don't need a lead channel on your amp, choose your own fuzz or dirt pedals. What can one say to the electronically ignorant? nothing. Professionals and techs know better. Stop supporting the big corporations for they don't care about quality . They seek only cheap to build products and higher quarterly earnings. To those with ears to hear...

[@mortachi8816]

Seems like nothing is real anymore. Autotune has made vocals fake, and software is making guitar sounds and dynamics fake. I've been playing music since the '60s, when everything was real. I'm really glad my time playing rock and blues was during it's hay day. No amps? No leaning against sound waves coming out of hundred watt amps?

[@johnmeeks9308]

The reason why something like the cortex is high on the list is because not only does it do amp simulations but it comes with an effect where today's amplifiers are so damn expensive that people are trying to find way to cut corners I on The Other hand do not. I have tube amps and Then I buy my effects but that's The Only reason WHY they're High and they're not Really amplifiers they're digital pieces of crap

[@BAND-MAID-USA]

Tune amp companies are going to have to adjust to what we can get for the money with modeling and all the options. There’s literally multiple reasons to not buy a tube amp. Price, ease of traveling with it, clubs that don’t want them anymore, space, needing to crank to get the tone, amp techs going by the wayside by the day and/or waiting weeks or months to have work done. There’s literally no GOOD reason to buy tube amps at this point when you literally don’t need them anymore. Used tube amps for decades until 2013. Went Kemper, the Axe then back to Kemper, the even the budget friendly ones the last several years, HX Stomp, Helix, ToneX, HeadRush MX5. All of them can do anything after learning how to use them. Which can be a horrible experience. Still have dozens of tube amp heads and combos and cans. I still use cabs but couldn’t care less about the amps. Actually debating selling them all while some ppl are still willing to pay decent money for them. Because it won’t be long before no one wants them at all. That’s just how tech works.