The TOR Becomes BALANCED (Sorta..) - Tor-M1 - War Thunder

The Tor-M1 had it's firepower buffed to a point where the SPAA is now incredibly dangerous to every aircraft it may come against, while still being a fairly simple vehicle to outplay if you know what you are doing!
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[@llraijinll5753]

All vehicles are unbalanced in the hands of JustinSlays ❤

[@Tamburello_1994]

Stone cold killer, that one is.

[@camung2361]

except m41D tank

[@Slavic_Chad]

@@camung2361fr, that's just shit

[@mayto420]

you should set the radar search elevation to 64 degrees and the range to 30km edit: nvm didnt watch far enough

[@dusanvukobratovic7659]

how do you do that?

[@themilkman8554]

here wondering the same @@dusanvukobratovic7659

[@stylishniggachannel4763]

@@dusanvukobratovic7659 im guessing keybinds

[@brettleisy356]

the missile (depending on missile type obviously) is constantly updating pathing to target and intercept location. if it calculates that target will be behind cover or will put something else in its path it will seek a new pathing. easiest way to get a new pathing for a missile is to go high and come down to a new intercept location. this is why you sometimes see missiles take the high route. in game tho is is highly overpowering by negating most if not all the defenses that a player may have.

[@thomaszhang3101]

But isn’t the missile manually guided by the launch vehicle, aka it requires line of sight to the launch vehicle? If so, won’t it just lose lock anyway if the target goes behind cover out of line of sight of the launcher?

[@brettleisy356]

@@thomaszhang3101 there are two guidance methods. one by guiding it in manually (with mouse and cross hair) and the other is a "locked" method. while it loses a lot of information it will continue its intercept course path. the missile doesn't just fizzle out. but if it knows through triangulation and telemetry readings it wont make intercept point on a straight path, it will need a new path. in this case up.... the missile and the launcher are communicating to create a set of mathematical calculations. the missile knows its trajectory, speed, and position relative to the launcher, and vice versa. between these two they can calculate distance and trajectory of the third point (the target). if current path is blocked (ie. a hill, building, trees etc) in automatic mode it will make corrections to make new intercept point where it can reach even if hidden from the launcher. manual is better in some situations, automatic is better in others.

[@texasjoe354]

But does the missile know where it is?

[@evo3s75]

funny thing is. Mike even said that Russia would "Get the Tor in the coming updates" at the fire&ice update where the Tor got introduced

[@andrewmacias-brown1818]

Ultimate SPAA line up

[@Nope_617]

The TOR that they wanted to add for Russians would have been actually better than the pantsir

[@Optimusprime56241]

@@Nope_617 Russia should’ve gotten the tor m1 and not the pantsir

[@evo3s75]

@@Nope_617 no, I think they would've gotten the bog standard Tor M1 first. And I don't know how much better a Tor would be than a Pantsir. But they should've for sure gotten the Tor M1 instead of the Pantsir

[@Nope_617]

@@evo3s75 they wanted to add the Tor M2 and not the regular one like china, but they changed their mind. The tor m2 is just that much better

[@AxlePlaysGames]

Ka-50 teamkill: some people are sad and can’t stand not having something to shoot at- particularly ka-50 players (extreme emphasis on SOME, I’m sure many ka-50 players are wonderful people.)

[@nolanarcher9996]

I was the f16 that killed Justin before he spawned in the Z10 naw that guy was just a douche and racist.

[@RhodesianSuperiority]

No, not one single owner of the ka-50 is a good person. Literally all cancer

[@GLitchesHaxandBadAudio]

Automatic tracking has actually improved greatly and is very useful now.

[@commandervocal3848]

I would assume it’s the TY-90s that made the player mad, it’s hilarious that the guy is in a KA-50 getting mad at someone in a Z-10, when the KA-50 is by far a more toxic helicopter to deal with

[@meandthebois7565]

The TY90 is extremely annoying to face idk what you're talking about.

[@commandervocal3848]

@@meandthebois7565 I never said it wasn’t annoying, I’m just saying dealing with the current KA-50/52 is much more annoying overall than dealing with a Z-19/10, at least with the Z-19/10 you can spawn in a heli without a lot of worry of getting shot down, while on the other hand spawning in an AH while fighting the Russians you will surely get shot down by a KA around 85% of the time. I’d much rather deal with a Z-19 or a Z-10 than deal with a KA-50/52 is all I’m saying.

[@caesar5380]

OTO with 20° angle radar making it impossible to see things over 2k altitude in most maps🙃

[@dadistos4538]

yeah italy's anti air capability isn't the best lol

[@CaptainGrief66]

They have nerfed the poor Otomatic to hell and back, they should just buff the Mistrals and have the Sidam with those back at top tier instead of the Otomatic, or you know, give Italiy the SAMP/T, but I feel like people would hate it even more than the Tor or Pantsir to a degree It's only a truck with alow deploying launchers but those missiles are basically impossible to avoid and have a 100km range

[@shini44-44]

i think the reason for the tk is people hate the ty90, ive played the z19e a few times and have been tked on mutiple occasions and when i asked why they said i was a scumbag for using the ty90's to which i said (yea youre not wrong) fair enough i guess. teammates with always be the great equalizer

[@waldek7772]

still not worse than live server vikhrs

[@Kaiberus]

i mean i hate su25/ks and ka50/52s but i wont teamkill them

[@Humphree]

I think it lofts like that to avoid hitting the ground ik it sounds dumb but thats my only thought on it because it only seems to do that when your target it heading towards the ground at lowish alt. Even though this is supposed to be the direct fire mode it seems to still have some sort of autopilot (i myself have only had this happen once)

[@Niko_rj]

As gaijn said, TOR M2 would be better than the Pantsir because the missile doesn't lose agility and can fly with an overload of 30G on any part of its path (16km range). and he also has 16 missiles and 1000m/s speed. and I will ask at least in the test driving to compare the radar of gepard and pantsir. how often the enemy location is updated on radar. Was nerferd, and now it's just shitty

[@keno5839]

The tor m1 would have been fine

[@Niko_rj]

@@keno5839 before this buff, 42g TOR M1 shit like 2S6, because missile had 16G.

[@chillz2573]

Wish he wouldve shown the missile launch, thats the satisfying part

[@elpatron223]

Make a vid bout the BTR, kinda excited to see it

[@canadianbacon5716]

also the added pillows are a nice addition

[@Scrobbles5683]

I don't mind goofy cosmetics and decals, I love putting the gnome from the christmas event behind commander MGs and such. It also gives me a good chuckle from time to time to see a funny face or scene on something that killed me. And sometimes it can add a bit more character to see some realistic clutter on an otherwise bare tank

[@JagdPanzerE-yo5uq]

Glad to see this tank being buffed.

[@Majorrick07]

Still hoping for a remastered Ace Combat 4, 5 and Zero one day. Great video like usual and looking forward to the MGS remastered editions.

[@Arthas747]

Hi great video BTW I have a question is it worth to ride Chinese tech tree I'm at 8.3 and it's feels like slow and low dmg tree

[@SkyTheHoe]

Hello Justin, we met again during Streams, games and now videos :^)

[@CybridOfficial]

Hey Justin, I'm curious what your thoughts are on the Stormer. IMO, it's a really sneaky SPAA because there's only an initial plume, it doesn't trigger RWS, and the missile itself can be hard to spot if you're not expecting it.

[@markjackson7650]

The Stormer is the anti-heli chad such a satisfying spaa to do well in. It's even handy against jets with some practice.

[@sil3ntsp3ct3r]

It makes Ka players so mad, I love it.

[@MrRazgriez666]

sham it has to be impact so it just barely hits fast movers like mig 27 or anything supersonic

[@hawkeye6292]

@@MrRazgriez666 just have to fire at the right time, with a little trial and error you can slap heli and jets out the sky no problem

[@MrRazgriez666]

@@hawkeye6292 I guess you have a point I just hate when only one part of the cluster hits and he's not even fazed

[@sturmovik_80]

15:10 this is why i love my Tunguska. aigainst Spaa with guns it's much harder to this as a pilot

[@MrMedosha]

use the 3rd lead mode it's amazing man :D

[@sturmuwus4962]

So I get the body pillows by using the join warthunder link below? The one that says start playing?

[@truko5039]

its "funny" and I'm doing it for the "LOLS". Sure Justin, THATS why you got them.

[@sinsley1]

17:50 yeah i was about to say no one is spawning shit because the pansir but you mentioned it

[@spycrab1403]

i want more body pillows and the ability to put costume pictures

[@yuluoxianjun]

In fact, Gaijin does have a mechanism to secretly regulate your teammates. If you have performed well recently, they will arrange garbage teammates for you

[@_lo8241]

Take your meds

[@pyrotechnicalbirdman5356]

​@@_lo8241Joke: a thing that someone says to cause amusement or laughter, especially a story with a funny punchline.

[@anticwar]

Sometimes when a heli has a lock on an enemy and you happen to be passing by, the lock might switch to another target which is in this case was you. Maybe that's why ka50 shot you?

[@EB-Ghost6]

Justin we need to see more of your brain fart moments, cuz I still think your some sort of war Thunder deity

[@blank141]

Gotta love how most of the CAS players just ignores the RWR if theres no lock warning, they don't even check if the ping is from their teammates or from enemy so that they can take appropriate action. Instead, they wait for the missile launch before making evasive manuever and by the time its too late since they are so high up in the sky.

[@blessthismessss]

rip, this is like one of the only vids ive seen on the Tor after its buff and the guy doesnt use automatic lead :c

[@haydendill6288]

The real question is why can air and ground team kill each other but ground can't team kill other ground vehicles.

[@kavithasai1610]

Hi justin how are u doing

[@Tamburello_1994]

Jealousy. That would be my answer.

[@mattthesedg4238]

Pantsir player here, interesting to see how much less you have to lead your aim, its pretty much impossible to hit anything at 8km with the pantsir if you're fully zoomed in because you can't see, and the auto mode is only good for drones. Alot of maps i refuse to play because theres no cover or bad terrain so i just sit in the menu or spectate, have had a few games getting 7+ kills and its really annoying with multiple pantsirs on your team because youre basically competing with eachother

[@mattz1559]

When will they be adding the Type 03 Chu SAM for Japan if this is already in game

[@lemonscarab21997]

Those body pillows are like... GYATT 😂

[@theepicjs5541]

Ong

[@monkey-sp1zb]

Justin can i ask for a tip? When i play the Object 906 i usually can get 6 kills per game, but still lose. So what should i do? Pray to the snail for better teammates or be a better teammate?

[@Hakurou6636]

Pray the snail

[@clashergamingltu8689]

Oh so they buff the tor but not the worst 11.7 aka FlakRakRad

[@TheDominiqueG]

Yeah, playing SPAA main is just boring sometimes. :P There's times where I dont see any air, six or so games in a row. :(

[@Shrekinator1]

What games you been playing, I see atleast 3 air targets a game

[@yuluoxianjun]

and the Tor m1 missile will automally fly to higher if your radar lose lock on enemy,that is just same as Z-10 s AKD10 ATGMs,when you use Z10 lose locking on enemy,AKD10 will also lose control and automally fly to high air.This is very annoying and i never suffered same problem on Apache or Ka50.Maybe this is bug China has

[@KUSHxKiNG]

So they made the missile do some loopy loops when launched so that made it balanced 😂😂😂

[@farmcat9873]

seeing how you only had 1 teammate left on the Japan map I to would feel like someone was looking at me also,

[@sotarastas7274]

Personally I feel like the MGS remakes are going to be cash grabs that lure you with nostalgia, since Kojima isn't involved anymore. I don't know how bad it will be but I honestly don't feel too hyped, not yet at least.

[@user-rs5ui5lg5i]

The remasters will be fine I think, but idk if they are going the metroid prime route and remake the graphics too, MGS Delta will be interesting to see how it turns out to be.

[@sotarastas7274]

@@user-rs5ui5lg5i Remains to be seen I guess, but here's hoping.

[@chilipepperoni]

is there still the way to get the pillows :---)

[@cwu4591]

body pillows are SO FUNNY HAHAHAHA

[@shikikanaz4624]

They should switch the pgz09 and pgz04 places, give the missiles to the pgz09. The pgz09 is literally meant to be an upgrade over pgz04, the pgz04 has a worse radar as it cannot detect drones while pgz09 can, rounds are too small of a calibre making them unreliable to kill mbts. The only advantage the pgz04 has over the 09 is more ammo I believe and -5 degrees of depression

[@silent_j6198]

That has been my exact experience lately playing China, nothing but defeats. With Russia we get stomped, without them we get stomped. IDK what's gong on. Even the amount of CAS is so low, I tried farming CAS with the Z-19E but they would spawn 1 to 2 planes/helis a match, you'd think with how much everyone complains about "muh CAS OP" they would be everywhere

[@Kheron56]

Just installed the bodies pillows on my Chadly too oh the serendipity

[@darkquantum8396]

Where are they? I can't seem to find the pillows

[@The411876543]

body pillow... but yea pansir sitll the best AA russia gotta be op right?

[@theidiotictroublemaker2281]

Funny how Russia has the highest amount and types of spaa in the world. People should be happy the gaijin didn't add the TOR M2 to Russia considering TOR is USSR made spaa and the M2 has the missile for tackling aggressive maneuvering Targets or the long range ones

[@OlanleeAndrews]

I love it. dosent belong in the front line.

[@simonlind44]

Justin, you'll need to update your preset. It is no longer 11.0 :)

[@sulfurplaying5707]

what is this for set up "plz help" ?

[@RumblerGaming]

dude the tor makes me want to play china so bad but i know it'll come to russia eventually, the damn snail.

[@canadianbacon5716]

I think he team killed you to be in one of your videos tbh. It's good that you didn't bother to show it to give him what he wants and to instigate this sort of behavior to youtubers.

[@AnthonyK_34]

Haha I ran into you during one of those dead games. We just sat their chatting cause there was not a single aircraft in the sky the while game. (I was in my pantsir). IGN is Glizzard_Wizzard

[@AnthonyK_34]

You mentioned you were trying to get content with this thing but everyone was scared to use cas because of the pantsir so you were having tons of trouble lol

[@FXIIBeaver]

The Tor M1 is so nasty. I wish the US had something like it.

[@Maxalhw]

Havent played it, havent seen i, probably wont ever.

[@luxiet2518]

I vonder why US still does not have Avanger. It could be fun to play .

[@legend2460]

hahahaha im gettin them pillows

[@F0X1ROT]

Second, Nice video justin :) keep it up

[@RhodesianSuperiority]

For a game that started as just planes, they sure as hell made SPAA blatantly unrealistically overpowered

[@JustinPlaysTV]

Alot has changed since this video released.. F16s rules the sky currently!

[@RhodesianSuperiority]

@@JustinPlaysTV i dont doubt it, I only have US to 11.0 so my view points pretty biased (and salty), but literally every game is won by whatever team gets russia and all of US airpower is outshined by Ka-50 and 2S6 and 2S38 abusers. It’s infuriating considering how trash russian tech is in real life. As someone who was deployed in Afghanistan in 2016-2017, and then syria in 2018, and has seen first hand how crap captured russian tech is its so blatantly obvious that the game is biased towards ruzzians.

[@deliriousgaming9432]

I really want the Tor M1 myself because I absolutely love VLS! long grind though... I get that Russia thing too! they are god tier when I'm versing them but are absolute trash when I try playing Russia.

[@MrAcuta73]

Why would you feel bad about shooting drones? Looks like TOR is some REALLY good anti-cancer medication! 🤣

[@NagoyaRR]

The body pillow don't matter the community isn't talking anyway, atleast in my games I'm the one that is trying to talk but no one is talking.

[@cappyplays4044]

whalla jalla

[@farmcat9873]

@JustinPlays hell I played the Original Metal Gear on the first Nintendo back in the day when I was a kid and that game was the $h!T back in the day.

[@The_Tank_Destroyer69420]

Yes indeed the gold MGS games getting remakes. I am exited for it ❤.

[@tactic_soldier1801]

Please play Bradley

[@SHEEPS_123]

justin you should play the m1a1 or the ipm1

[@messyjessem.3108]

I understand the Hate against the Body Pillows, WT is supposed to be the "Realistic" roughed military sim, and its seems like its getting like World of Tanks with the silliness, its kind of why I dont like WoT. I will say I did get the pillows cause I find them pretty funny, but as someone who is a Loser myself I will say the pillows are pretty weird/creepy.

[@monarquistabr5646]

Tor still with 2 problens only now, trail of smoke, not only cause the cas will see, but will be in your aim, and make harder to aim in the cas, other point, the missel is not that fast...

[@yuluoxianjun]

it still has many problems.such as huge and long white smoke,has no night gunnder vision,cant guide like straight fly missile,and auto guide logic is wrong,which make its missile fly randomly and never get a jet.I know many people point at the 42G missile and say Tor is too OP,but in my opinion and experience,i think Adats and Roland or maybe i still dont have 90M is better than Tor.The huge smoke is too Annoying thing.

[@user-zw1ly7sn5v]

这个版本加强了tor-m1，也许下个版本就会给俄罗斯加入tor-m2，相似的弹药但是有16发弹药和热成像瞄具，这就是斯拉夫人的游戏强国

[@Spaceballz123]

Why did Russia get the op pantsir instead of the thor? Um Russian bias

[@Lowkicksfordayz]

I want this in the Russian tree . I wanna play this so bad , I’m never gonna start grinding China from the start to get anything.

[@raizencore]

Social credit has been added to your account, the CCP thanks you for keeping the skies clear of western forces. (read that in a chinese accent and you'll die of laughter 😂)

[@EBBEBBEBBE]

The environment for CAS in ground RB has fundamentally changed eversince Pantsir got introduced. It's not worth of spawning CAS anymore. Cuz you got detected and locked right after spawn without noticed. The only option for non Russian CAS player is to do low fly attack with conventional weapons. Cuz almost all the smart weapons requires attitude.

[@Sxgwa]

Give israel better spaa alreadyyyy gaijinnnmmn

[@nordd4613]

Cheap Beach!!

[@antoniotorres1733]

Justin weeb 200% comfirmed

[@GxldStXrDxst]

I hit the russian winrate too 😅😂

[@PanzerSteinn]

It upsets me Justinnnnnn😂😂 And you do a marketing campaign for them STOP!😂🤣

[@_Usaco]

OMG DAKIMAKURA IN WT???? TIME TO REINSTAL THE GAME !

[@JustinPlaysTV]

I believe the opportunity to get the waifus has since passed o.o

[@annguyenlehoang7779]

the less Heli and Jet in top tier the happier i am no matter it is my team or enemy team fucking hate UAV - Heli and Jet

[@peymanstd]

It annoys some people because it completely takes away from the core realism and seriousness of the game. A lot of people enjoy the environment of the game where a realistic war between vehicles takes place. Body pillows of cartoon characters slapped on top of a menacing looking tank kills the vibe. Other than that it’s cool lol.

[@GxldStXrDxst]

I like .. the pillows would fit in my leclercs turret back 😞🐟 come pls over to me here

[@papasiukas7419]

did you film this on the 25 th? its the protest day

[@svx4477]

nothings happening today lmao nobody cared enough about your reddit boycott

[@typehyuga607]

Nobody cares about your boycott my guy

[@Zerai_4567]

so ur saying u can only get these pillows for new players srsly ?

[@depolifyyy]

You can get them if you are not new too. You don’t NEED to be a new player to obtain them

[@Zerai_4567]

@@depolifyyy how tho ?

[@user-rs5ui5lg5i]

​@@Zerai_4567 you can link existing accounts to the invite links but you won't receive some of the bonuses like premium time.

[@Kaiberus]

i know the pain of losing with or as russia, idk why but russian bias never works with me always against me

[@G3ntl3man95]

Recently played with flakrad gg for gaijin totally destroyed germany top tier spaa missile tracking is so terrible….

[@kungai7045]

the russians will get Tor-M2 :D

[@G3ntl3man95]

Gaijin destroyed Germany toptier spaa

[@-Benito_Swagolini-]

Flarakrad pain

[@mrunitforge]

the Ito is apparently shit now aswell. The ASRAD with Bolide misilies does the job for me anyways but the VT-1 seems busted atm

[@renjygh3686]

Another russian aa but balance

[@hansiminator69]

I can already see the TOR in the Russian tech tree next update

[@jasonnether_Its_Lit]

Automatic tracking is 10x better for this buffed women toy

[@MoZizhuang]

where is no need to use plane when you fight against the USSR and China XDDDDDDDDDDD because the 96K6 and TorM1

[@addedcheese]

the pantsir still has no business being int he game. Russia should have gotten the TOR to keep things balanced

[@Bobspineable]

Gaijin should actually monetize cosmetics more, which means yes, more body pillows and anime stuff. It doesn’t affect game play at all or the economy and it makes money. Many other games monetize cosmetics.

[@SaltyWarthunderPlayer]

But consider the situation where someone PAYS for a cosmetic, and gets annoyed that people aren’t forced to see it by setting cosmetics to historical only. Because people are that entitled But I do like the idea of 3D skins like wot does, those were awesome