The Trae Young disrespect has gotten out of hand

[@hunterepsi]

Are we not gonna talk about Donovan Mitchell being directly below Tyler Herro on that list LMFAOOOO

[@beckembrown7002]

That kinda makes sense tho

[@MuttonErase]

What has tyler herro done since 2020?​@@beckembrown7002

[@greenecarlos93]

@@beckembrown7002no it doesn’t Tyler hero not even close

[@beckembrown7002]

@@greenecarlos93 Herro been to the finals, Donovan never made conf finals

[@greenecarlos93]

@@beckembrown7002 bro he was literally hurt for 2 of those finals runs and they wasn’t winning games because of him with that logic I could call kcp better than embid and that’s just objectively incorrect

[@pinhead9196]

Donovan Mitchell being at 43 is more disrespectful

[@geordiejones5618]

For real, no player in the league has scored more in a single playoff game than Mitchell with that 57 piece, and I don't even see Luka breaking that, at least not anytime soon.

[@jayysenseii8345]

@@geordiejones5618doesn’t make him better than Luka I know u didnt say that but Luka objectively better on all aspects of offense but yea having Tyler herro on spider is crazy asf spider is arguably the best 2 guard in the game

[@BigLeann]

Donovan Mitchell needs his version of this video.

[@BARFVADER420]

facts

[@killakev0]

I tried not to listen to lakers fans about Malik Beasley when he came to the Bucks, but God, Laker fans were spot on about him LMAO

[@brandonbehappy72]

Dude, brand new to the channel, in Kenya. LOVE what you're doing fam

[@KofieWhy]

Welcome aboard dude!

[@aaronomics101]

TY for actually looking at the Hawks instead of just parroting mainstream garbage. Most of the media doesn't watch the Hawks. Trae isnt a coach killer. Losing is a coach killer.

[@trendel13]

The Hawks ain't screwed because of Trae. They're screwed due to ownership... more specifically nepotism.

[@decker5801]

The only Hawks games I watched last season were the four Pacers matchups. They did not look like they knew how to play basketball.

[@silversoulken]

I work at the Pacers arena and I swear almost no one goes up there with Atlanta gear on

[@babyzorilla]

Professional sports can be unpredictable. Pacers looking anemic right now.

[@Conquistador76]

Kofie, as a fan of your channel, I always enjoy these critiques of Sports Media. I forget where I saw it, but you did Media Studies in college if I remember correctly. This is why I love NBA KZbin. You guys are independent and make great content. Keep it up!

[@thekaying]

My litmus test for whether I take a Trey hater seriously at all is where they'd have Sabonis. Both are offensive engines with defensive issues, but Trey is better as the former and easier to hide as a liability on D. Sabonis almost hard-caps your defense at the 5, meanwhile perimeter guys hide on defense all the time, even good defenders. Shai's a good defender, he was still hiding and getting hunted in the playoffs, because he's the 1. option and needs rest. Schematically, a bad perimeter defender as the offensive no. 1 is just easier to work around. So when Trey's getting put 25 spots below Domas I just scroll by.

[@michaelahurt]

The big difference is 1) Sabonis has _some_ value of defense because of his rebounding and size and 2) he elevates his teammates -- specifically guards/wings who benefit from his screening and playmaking As you put better players next to Trae his offense becomes less valuable because he's a bad off ball player and essentially turns everyone into a spot up shooter when he has the ball. You need to be GREAT to make that work (Luka, LeBron) and Trae is "only" very good Sabonis is still going to provide a ton of value on offense even if he doesn't have the ball and delay is just an elite offense because it pulls out the opposing five Basically the only top 50 players who Trae would make better are Wemby, AD and Rudy.

[@humptydumpty1929]

@@michaelahurt Whos that better player(s) you're talking about? you think Jalen Johnson and Zaccharie are gonna be worse players cause they're playing with Trae? You think Giannis or Ad wouldn't be better with Trae? Joel embiid would probably have a ring now if he was playing with Trae but honestly I can tell you don't watch games cause saying he turns everyone into a spot up shooter is probably the most I don't watch games thing you could've said.

[@michaelahurt]

@@humptydumpty1929 Zac and Jalen can't dribble or create their own shot. They are ideal guys to play with Trae. Also neither is _remotely_ close to being a top 50 player. I said AD would be better. He was one of the three I listed. 45% of Trae's possessions are pick and roll. Here's how PnR works: someone sets a screen, three guys SPOT UP and one guy has the ball. Trae does the same thing to guys that LeBron did to Kevin Love and Chris Bosh. It's not exactly a multi-handler offense like Quin ran in Utah. If you put another ball handler with Trae -- like say DeJounte Murray -- it doesn't work because Trae doesn't want to do things like screen and move without the ball. We've seen Embiid with Trae except it was James Harden. Great in the regular season; terrible in the playoffs. Embiid is much better with a guy like Maxey. It's much harder to stop

[@humptydumpty1929]

@@michaelahurt At least you didn’t lie and try to say you watch games I’ll give you that. Jalen Johnson will probably be top 50 by all star break just by virtue of being a second option and 22 with tons of upside and virtually no downside besides maybe injury. Also just watch his games he can clearly create his own offense but he’ll also be top 5 in assists for a power forward next year basically guaranteed (this is an easy projection that stats wouldn’t tell you) your argument is just based off what you think and not what you know. Having Trae only makes other players better because Trae young is double teamed 20+% of the time and has finished top 3 in assists 6/7 years and you’re trying to argue he’s a ball stopper because he played with DJM who has the same issues the problem wasn’t Trae can’t play off ball it’s that both couldn’t play offball and Djm was supposed to be the one doing the cutting, screening, spacing not Trae. DJM loved to find a corner and sit in it (still love him tho) but besides him please list one other player who Trae has Lebroned I’ll wait. Give me ONE other example and I’ll concede your point.

[@michaelahurt]

@@humptydumpty1929 100% agree about DJM. No arguments. But that doesn't change how Trae played when DeJounte _did_ have the ball. With JJ ... It's really hard to be a top 50 player. Now could I see a Siakam style development for him? Sure. But the reality is 77% of his shots are assisted. He's a pretty pure play finisher at this point and that type of growth is years away. Trae showed signs of improvement last year but his game is still very Harden-esque and he's still 6 165' ... As I said, if he's your best player you just aren't going anywhere and if he's your second best player with another ball dominant player then he's not worth his contract because 99% of his value is on ball

[@trippytree3889]

This Hawks team could b fun to watch (Not saying Great or even necessarily good). Trae is always fun to watch even if chuck doesn't think so. Hawks got a lot of fun young players on this team now like Risacher, Bufkin, Daniels, Vit and JJ. Hopefully they at least look like that scrappy Hawks team that fought their way to a conference finals a few seasons ago

[@bobbyczzz]

GMS didn't even say he isn't a top 5 passer. Absolutely crazy

[@mnewson11]

Beal over Trae and he couldn’t lead Wiz to playoffs … Thank you Kofie as a hawks fan we don’t understand the hate

[@4ktkaram395]

Trae all nba 1st team this year

[@TheJalinmyles]

Can’t look at him the same after bomani jones called him “Trae DeBarge” 😂😂😂😂

[@justincamp9573]

Hawks have done Capela, Okongwu, and Hunter dirty by not giving them any POA defenders for years to lighten the load on their shoulders. Trae gets the brunt of the criticism for all the bad defense, but it has been a personnel issue from the beginning. He's an objectively bad defender, however his effort has come around in the Snyder era. I'm excited to see where the team ends up after two tremendously bad vibes seasons.

[@Monotony619]

I mean. Isn't that why they brought in dejounte Murray? He was supposed to be a good guard defender but I guess it didn't work.

[@ojutay8375]

​@@Monotony619 Murray's defense fell off. He's not the elite defender he was in San Antonio anymore

[@Soern04]

even though im biased its still crazy to me that mccollum and beal made his list and franz isnt even on it

[@silversoulken]

Ngl I’m also tired of the McCollum gassing up

[@eezy.knewsome]

Hawks trading for Capella was low key the best trade they made to support trae until this dyson trade. Additionally it was tough to build via free agency because the Ressler's refuse to pay the tax. This led to the huerter and John Collins trades or not re signing Delon Wright. Feels like Landry and Kyle Korver actually have been able to cook this past year. I am excited for this team. Lot of young players who can cut, pass, defend and shoot (kinda). Also Nate played the opposite of a modern offense, which did not help the DejounTrae pairing. The hawks tried to improve post ECF but they chose the wrong coach, and wrong players, and had the wrong vision for how to play with Trae. Both hunter and collins were disappointing. Hunter never became baby kawhi like fans hoped (well he does have knee issues so I guess we got that).

[@stephen2paterson]

The Hawks took the wrong risks at the wrong time and have have drafted fair-to-middling players. Speaking on the Luka trade, that is a more favorable deal for Atlanta if the Hawks don't use that #10 pick on Cam Reddish. Plus, drafting DeAndre Hunter #4 overall. Another example: drafting Okongwu over Tyrese Haliburton. OO is cool. Hali is better. He and Trae would have been a better backcourt than Murray/Young.

[@dmx485-k2v]

I saw the title and was like "come on it can't be that bad". Chuck on some wild shit rn. That is CRAAAAZY.

[@538696]

I feel like this year they did take steps to address alot of the points you made

[@thedimedropper9601]

Trae Young feels like one of those guys who need an elite big to bring out the best in him. But thats also a weakness in a sense. Hes great shooting, great playmaking, but his off ball game isn't great, and defensively he'll be targeted and is somewhat weak but he has gotten better effort wise. And i think it got shown when Murray appeared (side note, DO NOT like that trade for New Orleans, but thats for another time). Murray Young and Johnson struggled to co-exist in essence because they weren't good off ball. It screams system issue and player issues. And ultimately that's the problem, Trae is best on ball, surrounded by 3 and D wings and a lob threat. But that doesnt work in the post season when teams will trap and target him. So a second ball handler comes out and it frees the offense but trae in turn struggles to make a sizable impact off the ball. If he improved that aspect, his assists would dip, scoring slightly higher, but the team could flow much better.

[@arthurbynum]

How much better you want him to be lol

[@thedimedropper9601]

@arthurbynum I tried wording this better. But I'll cut to the chase. Trae Young is great on ball, not so great off ball. He plays his best in pick and roll. Conserves energy standing around. The issue is in a playoff setting teams adjust to that. It is why he struggled so badly against miami. If he can run off ball slightly more and drop his usage a bit, his numbers will go down slightly but team success will be higher. It is why the Hawks last year failed. In theory Trae/Dejounte/Jalen Johnson is a good core where you got 3 effective ball handlers and 3 good shooters. But in games they didn't know how to play off of each other (or coached that way). Kofie meantioned the hawks were better when one of Trae/Dejounte was on the court and the other was off of it. No one sacrificed on ball to become better off ball and the team suffered for it. Not saying take Trae off the ball completely. But if he implements some off ball elements to his game, his assists will go down, but team success will go up. Look at the history of the nba, most scorers and playmakers experienced more success when they had less personal stats. The Hawks this year will be better, but they will not experience post season success until the front office improves the roster, and Trae becomes a better off ball player.

[@jonathannovembre4562]

@@thedimedropper9601 I get ou but I think ATL is also just mismanaging his career and also he has gotten better defensively. last year he becme more respectable, they tried to get him to play offball with murray but two pgs and expecting them to gel is kind of crazy lol

[@thedimedropper9601]

@jonathannovembre4562 Oh, for sure. Mismanagement at its finest. The not meshing is still concerning though as tons of players did get it to work at varying skill levels (give a few examples, Norm Nixon and Magic, Kemba and Lin, Lowry and Fred Vanvleet, CP3 and Harden, Bledsoe and Dragic). I know it's a weird list of teams and names, but the notable thing to me is those players kind of overachieved to expectations. Who had the suns winning 48 in 13-14? The Hornets making the playoffs in 15-16 and going to game 7 vs the heat? CP3 and Harden challenging the "untouchable" Warriors? FVV and Lowry co existing in 2019 ECF and Finals, then taking boston to the brink in the bubble? What's concerning is just the complete lack of cohesion the Hawks had last year. But regardless, probably last time I'll respond here. I'll finish it off by saying I actually have high hopes this year for the Hawks and think they could win 40+ games as I'm high on Dyson Daniels, Jalen Johnson, and Oneka Okongwu. And as much as it is a concern because it didn't work out with Trae and Dejounte, they did do the right move moving off of Dejounte as Trae has proven he can lead these types of teams to solid win totals. I'm just moreso worried should it come down to a playoff scenario again that this kind of offense would fail due to a scheme such as trapping, recreating the issues from the past. Although it is kinda funny typing this out as a non hawks fan 😂. Either way. Trae is a great player, he's improved his game in tons of aspects, hopefully he gets a proper team around him, just concerned that he wouldn't be able to adjust to having another all star or two with him when/if that time comes.

[@Captainpuntymidgets]

@@arthurbynum I think he should grow 4-5 inches and he's be what everyone wants him to be! hope this helps!

[@evanraymusic]

For those who don’t know, former GM Travis Schlenk didn’t want Murray. The ownership went over his head and went thru with it. He leaves, now the owner Ressler’s son is one of the top front office voices with no basketball or leadership experience. Us hawks fans are disgusted at the bald-faced nepotism ruining our franchise.

[@stephen2paterson]

And the ATL disrespect has ALWAYS been a thing. And it's not because they are in the south because when Memphis or Orlando are good, they get credit as an up-and-coming team. ATL never gets that kind of coverage.

[@JROB447]

I literally got a Rogaine Hair loss ad before this video

[@gamingheavy7065]

Love your content dawg. Excited for the season! #MFFL

[@DyneDrumming]

That shirt goes hard though

[@Dkmo94]

Shoutout to ya girlfiriends' shirt, respectfully

[@christianmelendez7881]

As a rockets fan I’m just commenting to say that I love Clint capela. Dude is 10/10 cool

[@bigzaksnak9998]

Dj tried to focus more on his offense and gave less effort defensively or got worse defensively. We needed the dj from the spurs and we didn’t get him. Dyson is 15x better for us

[@DSquare77]

Yooo an Indiana Pacers video !!

[@silversoulken]

Seconded

[@avenue2k560]

none of charles’ takes should be tooken serious, he doesn’t even watch games

[@PittsburghHomeGarden]

KAT was like 6 spots ahead too lol

[@MonsieurBooyah]

trae is a top 25 offensive player, and a bottom 50 defensive player. hence 37.

[@Jermaine2099]

I don't think we (general nba fans) are disrespecting Trae Young, we just don't care lol if you're a good but not GREAT player on a team that's never making noise, it just doesn't warrant attention

[@trendel13]

2:35 most shocking moment to me TBH.

[@SnowBoarder2910]

Hawks needed a new center 3 years ago and never did it and imo Johnson is just a younger John Collins

[@justincamp9573]

JC never showed an ounce of the playmaking ability Jalen has. He can’t dribble, create for himself, or create for others. I’m saying that as a Collins defender till the end.

[@4ktkaram395]

Trae Young winning MVP this season 🤫

[@phantasyqwq]

Put DMitch or Trae in a Lakers jersey and they're in top 10 convos overnight

[@ryanb9305]

Nah trae isn’t a top 10 talent. He is non existent on the defensive end, doesn’t shoot efficient shots and most importantly doesn’t impact winning.

[@ryanb9305]

Spida is a top 10 talent though

[@seandanetheII]

So are we just gonna keep ignoring Clint Capela lol?

[@MyronLicht]

This gotta be another make or break year for Trae or he’ll be another what if. When will the time come when he requests a trade to a real contender

[@TheDangerbreed]

I know this video is about Trae Young, but you didn't see Donovan Mitchell's name up there too?

[@marsapollo3193]

Trae young is underrated and the atl hawks front office is trash

[@michaelahurt]

It's just complicated If Trae is your best player you're winning 41 games. If Trae is not your best player there's a 97% chance you'd rather have basically _any_ other top 50 player instead of Trae

[@EMPAYDEE]

Current front office is mostly untested but I like what they've done so far

[@marsapollo3193]

@michaelahurt that's still on the front office. Go get a better player nd stop putting him out there by himself. This man Trae is literally chris Paul on the hornets nd we see how that went

[@marsapollo3193]

@EMPAYDEE lol they should've hired tested ppl simple. Not rookie no badge family friend bs

[@michaelahurt]

@@marsapollo3193 Oh just go get a better a player. Well when you put it like that ... Yeah, all you have to do is get a top 15 all-time player in his prime. Stupid front office getting the #1 pick the year _after_ Wemby. If you want to crush Travis Schlenk for picking Trae over Luka fair enough but don't pretend like it's not 90% blind luck.

[@lakebros2004]

Can i send you some beats to put in your background

[@wakkawakkagaming3710]

I swear the NBA commentary ecosystem is really just a slander and glaze factory

[@Nicadkins]

What size shirt are you?

[@beckembrown7002]

Look how no teams want John Collins or Kevin Heurter lol. You’d think if Trae was the issue, they’d blossom on their new teams.

[@blablablaa14]

Collins played better last year than the years he was with Trae

[@Captainpuntymidgets]

collins played better last year than his last 2 stop talking out your ass google before you speak

[@beckembrown7002]

@@blablablaa14 not 21 Collins, & also still ass. Nobody wants him

[@beckembrown7002]

@@Captainpuntymidgets last season, look at avg Collins with Trae

[@EndorphinSauce]

I love you Kofie

[@Geronimo410]

I think with dejonte and trae they just had a system that didn't fit them Atlanta shouldve hired Dwayne Casey 😂

[@michaelahurt]

That's kind of the problem. The only system that fits Trae is Trae-ball. And Trae-ball only goes so far. Go re-watch the Miami series. Quin had the #1 offense in the NBA in Utah. He knows what he's doing. (Certainly more than Dwayne Casey who has always run fairly rudimentary offenses.)

[@Geronimo410]

@@michaelahurt the problem is any team led by trae young isn't going far it doesn't matter what system it is my first comment was a joke 😂

[@michaelahurt]

@@Geronimo410 lol. Agree

[@brettkozak3479]

I'm gonna let you live in your delusion that this community is wholesome and not send you anything. You're welcome. Also great video

[@AlanHengesbach-ok5pj]

Where’s paolo?

[@chrispatton2027]

Bro knows ball. High IQ takes about the Hawks are very rare nowadays. Thank you for this.

[@ProducoesBatata]

ele é brabo

[@aaronomics101]

When Luka was losing, the story was "why dont they get him more help", when Trae is losing it's "Trae doesn't play winning basketball.

[@blablablaa14]

Because Luka is levels and levels better

[@Captainpuntymidgets]

because Luka is much much better than trae young, hope this helps!

[@thecanmanification]

A lot of the narratives around Luka though were about his lack of fitness as well as defensive lapses at the end of games. I’m pretty sure that the game 1 loss of last year’s finals was put squarely on Luka’s feet

[@TheGuyinHi]

What's the po box?

[@KofieWhy]

The UPS Store 3939 8033 W Sunset Blvd Los Angeles, CA 90046

[@blablablaa14]

What disrespect. Trae is slowly becoming like BI, a player who gets overpaid and is more like the third best player on a contender than the 1st

[@TheOddMindofSamBo]

Sit down nephew, the grownups are talking

[@blablablaa14]

@@TheOddMindofSamBo What grownups? People who ignore reality? Who pretend a dude with a ratio of 10 assists to 5 turnovers is a good playmaker. Or people who pretend Trae is a good shooter when he usually shoots league average efficiency from 3? Or the fact he shoots below league average in the playoff? Should I mention that he's tiny and can't defend you or I? Cause I think i've proven my point with actual data instead of "vibes"

[@ryanb9305]

@@blablablaa14 nothing but facts

[@imanicepersonexpressingposi]

hey can i help out with the channel I wanna get youtube experience I'm aabt to graduate with a photo major and editing minor

[@patrickxu4228]

What’s the PO Box?

[@KofieWhy]

The UPS Store 3939 8033 W Sunset Blvd Los Angeles, CA 90046

[@michaelwatkins9479]

What’s your P.O. Box? My buddy has some awesome merch I can send you.

[@KofieWhy]

The UPS Store 3939 8033 W Sunset Blvd Los Angeles, CA 90046!

[@anthonytorres7282]

Bruh stop... Rat boy will always be 🐁 boy

[@DeosPraetorian]

K

[@Phoenix-pm2qr]

Imagination a player saying they'd give you 26 PPG AND over 10 assists a game. Only LeBron matches this combo of scoring and plsymaking. I watched Jordan for half of his career. Phil Jackson 100% would trade Jordan for Young, when he still has Pippen and playmaking and wing defense, and Dennis Rodman pulling down 13+ rebounds and elite defense

[@BigLeann]

I was with you in the first half.

[@castleford2591]

This is an insane take. Jesus Christ.

[@trippytree3889]

yes phil jackson would love Tre Young and Tre young would win rings along side the rest of that bulls team sure, but Saying he would Trade Prime MJ for Prime Tre is going to far lol (coming from a hawks and Tre young fan)

[@ryanb9305]

😂 I want what you are smoking

[@Bft149]

He needs to go to a team like the heat.

[@Alx1116]

The heat like defense, if they didn’t get dame they definitely not getting tras

[@trashcangus]

Trae can be as good as he wants to he w the basketball, he is still statistically the worst defender in the league 😰

[@seanaes]

Not this past year he wasnt

[@trashcangus]

@@seanaes jxmmyhighroller has a video highlighting it

[@jonathannovembre4562]

@@trashcangus he got better defensively last year, he’s improving. not really much he can do fr atl gotta put pieces next to him fr

[@trippytree3889]

IK defensive statistics are weird but he wasn't even bottom 10 last year in terms of Defensive rating so idk where you getting "Statistically worst defender in the league" from. I think you're falling victim to a little bit of that defensive reputation Kofi was talking about. Yes coming into the league Tae's D was shit but he has steadily improved and last year (While still not great) he was visibly improved on defense and was far from THE WORST defender in the league 🤣

[@seanaes]

@@trashcangus jimmy is peak content for casuals

[@trippytree3889]

Luka really isn't THAT much better than Tre if he even is at all yet everyone acting like HAwks got fleeced . The difference is The Mavs Did a significantly better job building around Luka than the hawks did building around Tre THATS THE DIFFERENCE. If you switched the two we would be talking about Tre as the better player cause Dallas would have him in a situation where he is thriving unlike the hawks who would still likely waste Luka. At the end of the day Both Luka and Tre's Ceiling was carrying the team to the conference finals before needed help. The Mavs gave Luka a supporting cast The hawks failed to give that to Tre hence why the hawks can barley make a play in where as the Mavs went to the finals last year. hopefully Risacher and J.J are as fun to watch as we think they will be and Tre can actually start to make up ground on this debate.

[@Captainpuntymidgets]

in technical skill agreed but he's like 7 inches taller which makes him a much better basketball player, size matters anyone saying it doesn't is a liar who doesn't understand the sport. There's a reason only 2 small guards have won a chip as the 1. Steph and IT and he's neither of those guys. This is why Luka is better. Higher ceiling.

[@PlayGameDailly]

It's easy to disrespect Trae young when he is also trade to better player... Luka Doncic.