The Tragedy of the AI Professor

[@KC_Garcia]

When the text glitches to "You are challenged by the Paradise Protection Protocol!" for a brief moment, the text says "AI Sada/Turo has no intention of fighting any more!"

[@GatorEX]

😔

[@hunterhq295]

@@GatorEX Regarding the AI when you battle them they have the title Professor in their name during their dialogue so it's hinted they are taking on the original Professor's traits and personality when they become mad after having neglected Arven and drowned themselves in their research.

[@shinybearevidra]

Honestly the glitching creeped me out, it was really well done.

[@lugiamastero13]

To add more to this right when the text begins to glitch it says Paradise Protection Protocol initiated!

[@Trashman_Len]

The text changing was so cool

[@nerobiblios4086]

I really liked the idea that the AI Professor had more concern and humanity than the original one.

[@DrawciaGleam02]

I love it too! I've always wanted a story where a clone of a person is made and that clone is a better person than the original!!

[@christopherbennett5858]

Honestly, that Ai was more of a parent to that kid than his biological parents. Arguably more human than them as well.

[@ProfessionalNamielleLewder69]

Yeah, I mean they suck as parents and are such awful people even the AI decided enough was enough. These really went out to get milk from Area Zero and never came back for Arven.

[@harrymillar4193]

@@DrawciaGleam02Just check like half the Gundam series - tonnes of clones in there XD

[@kaizoisevil]

@@DrawciaGleam02 Then you'll like the story of Jango Fett's clones.

[@FTChomp9980]

AI Sada was one the best plot twists in Pokemon S/V knowing that my boi Arven deserves all the hugs he can get dude has no more parents.

[@kingjd9594]

more like one of the biggest in any game

[@hunterhq295]

Regarding the AI when you battle them they have the title Professor in their name during their dialogue so it's hinted they are taking on the original Professor's traits and personality when they become mad after having neglected Arven and drowned themselves in their research. (Hinted that the one parent in each version left the other based on the notes you read) DLC hope they explain the plotholes of Area Zero.

[@ElectroBlastLuigi]

I can relate to Arven. It made me cry more than I should've. Guys, please cherish your memories with who you're close with, anyone you love the most.

[@boianko]

What I find interesting is the implication that the other version's professor does exist in both games, but walked out on Arven and his other parent due to some unspecified disagreement. My hope is that we'll get to see them in the DLC and maybe Arven will finally get some closure.

[@KororaPenguin]

Shakespeare would have had a field day with the tragedy of the Professor.

[@elin111]

I also like that the ending scene isn't just cheery celebration, they acknowledge that the whole ordeal was pretty hard on Arven with him finding out his neglectful parent wasn't so much neglectful as literally dead for 4 years. The group and their respective bike lizard walking with sad expressions before Nemona tries to cheer them up is a pretty good bit of story telling given what they just went through.

[@heroofmasks]

They died shortly before the start of the game that's why u see your ride pokemon fleeing away from area zero depending on how long between the first day of school to the treasure hunt is how long they been dead. Been at least a few weeks.

[@sleepy_swirls]

I've always had this fan theory that the professor died recently, as it's said that the box legendary fled after the skirmish that killed the original professor, and we see it fly out of Area Zero at the beginning of the game. I'm still wondering if there's holes to poke into this because I don't remember much of the dialogue, but I like it as it's food for thought.

[@dialgamor1548]

​@@sleepy_swirlsNo it was only said the ride legend fled after losing a territorial dispute with the other of its kind. It's not actually said which Pokemon killed the professor, so there is room for it to be a different Pokemon. And we do know the prof stopped talking to Arven years ago. There is definitely possibility the professor has been dead much longer.

[@heroepato]

When the party leaves the final dungeon with an existential crisis.

[@sckaze777]

@@dialgamor1548no?? The game literally said the professors died protecting the losing lizard from the aggresive one

[@shuichisaihope398]

Did anyone else notice "The Way Home" storyline never got a "complete!" screen? Like Victory Road and Starfall Street did get complete/congratulations screens for finishing the path so I think the DLC will finish the Professor's Storyline

[@Adrian-ze9ud]

Good theory!

[@dk2157]

Or it could be symbolism to point out you never truly arrive home but the way home itself is a "home" already

[@roboat76]

well the way home storyline is for koraidon as a way home, and we never really did go to koraidon's home, which is past paldea. So we never really did find the way home, but sada did.

[@oliviahughes3158]

To be fair, we did get the credit sequence

[@what.are.you.doing.stepbro]

Pretty sure the third legendary who actually created the paradox pokemons had somehow influenced Sada/Turo’s mind to build the time machine. That’s why even the their own AI robot who has the same thought process can’t find logic in the original professor’s action

[@slimeycorp]

If you want to make it sadder, the AI professor is actually dead too now. They needed to stay in the Area 0 Lab to survive, as the power of the crystals that the lab was literally made from was what was keeping them alive. In going to the future/past, they essentially sacrificed themselves to a somewhat-slow death in order to stop the human professor's plan. My little headcanon is that the professor's little speech before leaving was just to soften the blow to the kids, so they wouldn't know they would die.

[@wonderfulrose477]

Wow, by the time she was bidding us goodbye I totally forgot she had said that when we first enter. That makes it even sadder, the fact the AI professor was able to gain some conscious and sympathy.

[@kingteddieP4]

I feel like turo is fine. He’s going to a future paldea I’m sure there’s plenty of Tera energy. Sada is dead tho which is unfortunate.

[@ODSTD56]

@@kingteddieP4 Perhaps. The crystals could be there in the past, she would just need to find them in time.

[@BJGvideos]

There's no reason to assume that the crystals don't exist in the past or future.

[@oriondezagrats4228]

Another way of looking at it, is that they become a little more human as well, as they now have a finite lifespan. Perhaps that is something they would welcome.

[@Taijirai]

I find it really interesting, the dynamic Game Freak made between Arven and his parent(s). Literally neither they nor their robot replicas made any time for him. Even the prerecorded messages gave him no comfort or closure. I was hit pretty hard by that and I still am. Poor Arven

[@GatorEX]

I’m just glad we can least be friends and that Mabosstiff is okay

[@knightshade2654]

I believe that the AI professor did care for Arven but only because of a realization of how isolated he was because of how the professor was so neglectful. For example, I believe that the AI’s statement that the professor did care for him was to make Arven feel better, and the ambiguous message earlier by Professor Sada?/Turo? Was also likely by the AI, judging by its speech.

[@tully6648]

When that part of the story hit in Violet, I was like "Everybody left and man was so busy he made a literal copy of himself and NEITHER OF THEM took care of that kid." I was so mad.

[@bessieburnet9816]

Not entirely true. Arven got emails for a while, and there was a time where he and his parent lived with the legendary in the lighthouse together.

[@BJGvideos]

@@tully6648 The AI couldn't though. They couldn't leave the crater. And the professor didn't so much make the AI because they were busy, they made the AI because they were paranoid and found that nobody else could be trusted

[@MogamiKyoko13]

I kind of loved how the whole Area Zero saga became like soft-core horror. The music was so eerie; it put me on edge the whole time I was progressing to the bottom. And the little bits in the journals at each Station added to the growing creep factor. By the time I came face to face with the AI Professor, I was questioning every interaction I'd had in the game 🫠

[@aromanticfranziskavonkarma]

i start dancing every time i go down to area zero, they had NO reason to make the music go that hard

[@madisonyomans9004]

It gave me ARG vibes as I read the different notebooks around the lab. Then see the the other one of the legendary of the game choose to watch you in the dark scared me.

[@rafamigoclips]

Arven's storyline and the professor's story, as we learn about it during the game, may be my favorite part of any Pokémon game, period.

[@questionmarkquestionmarkques]

on par with N for me (tied for favorite pokemon story)

[@joshcoy6748]

The rest felt ho-hum...no offense.

[@MD-vs9ff]

Hands down. Especially after the "I don't care about a single person in this game, especially this idiot who can't wait ONE GOD DAMN DAY to let his accomplice play with his brother and his friend" that was Sword and Shield.

[@questionmarkquestionmarkques]

@Bang me Chan i can feel the reddit emanating off this comment

[@MysteryMedia2001]

I think it’s great that we now get to hand another “Congrats on being a terrible parent” badge to a Pokémon character. Ghetsis and Lusamine have a new club member!

[@artemisblake3241]

Two new members

[@MysteryMedia2001]

@@artemisblake3241 true. I also forgot about the founding member, Giovanni

[@Rancor856]

Every parent that lets their 10 year old children explore a world filled with super dangerous creatures that can kill you with just a thought: hold my beer

[@vaiyt]

bad parenting is the true antagonist of the pokémon franchise

[@Raigius]

@@MysteryMedia2001 I think they meant 2 in that each version has a different equally bad professor. Both Sada and Turo are terrible parents.

[@clublazy9468]

What’s crazy is she is wielding the Pokémon that killed her original self. She’s practically wielding her own murderer

[@cookiecutter5176]

I was so sad when I saw this. I just kept saying to myself: "What on Earth am I gonna tell Arven?"

[@BJGvideos]

Before following the AI to the elevator I ran back outside and tried to find Arven. I was very disappointed that I couldn't find him.

[@WhiteRaven696]

The journals reveal that Turo left Sada in Scarlet and Sada left Turo in Violet. I think the best resolution Arven's story could have is reuniting with his living parent. And I hope that happens in some DLC or something.

[@saphiriathebluedragonknight375]

@Lynnisveryc★★l My older brother would call the police. His dad didn't even want him to be born.

[@mudfishnick9768]

While I can't argue with the sentiment, I don't think that would work. The journals say "that man/woman left not long after the boy was born," meaning he was just an infant when they left. Even if Arven was successful in tracking down his other parent, they'd still be a complete stranger to him, and he to them

[@boianko]

@@mudfishnick9768 They still left their kid with a nutcase who obsessed over the pokemon world equivalent of a 1900s adventure novel. They bear responsibility and I think they'd still have a lot to talk about.

[@JoshioE110]

@Theultimateshitanimator you can create a dark story without swears. instead of swears, you get body language to show how frustrated he is.

[@bessieburnet9816]

Technically, we don't actually have direct confirmation that the other professor is still Arven's other half parent. For all we know, Scarlet Arven's dad is just some bloke.

[@ItsDangerX]

“Farewell, my free adventurers! I bid you adieu!” Kinda best scene + line in the game

[@BJGvideos]

But COMPLETELY HEARTBREAKING

[@theginkgo]

It's still so fascinating to me how they basically had an entire story revolve around a character with literally _no_ screentime and somehow made it the best one they've had so far. "The plot is built off of two characters: the professor and the professor" summarizes everything pretty perfectly.

[@BJGvideos]

@@theginkgo And when we meet them in the DLC, we still don't meet them, because they're from another timeline.

[@averyadkins9600]

Okay so fun fact feminine version of past in Spanish is pasada and the masculine version of future in Spanish is futuro.

[@skell6134]

Overall region is quite spanish so not surprising really

[@blizzwiz833]

I recently beat scarlet and the ending was one of the only parts I wasn't really spoiled about, so seeing the entire plot with AI Sada was something I hadn't seen in Pokemon. I'm glad the game didn't just end with becoming the champion and instead left us with the ending we have now.

[@TheMegaultrachicken]

When the robot is actually the one who realizes what is going on is wrong you know the actual human professor is messed up.

[@MegaMaster1021]

The AI being the good guy and the professor being the antagonist is refreshing but I wouldn't call them the bad I think they were being influence by the third legendary

[@GatorEX]

I think a big thing about the human Professor is that we just don’t meet them, so we can really say they’re a villain. All we have to go off of is the result of their actions, so yeah, definitely very interesting. Wonder if we’ll find out more about them.

[@hunterhq295]

@@GatorEX Well the AI finds no logic in bringing in pokemon from other eras that can disrupt the balance of the natural ecosystem. It's bad enough people develop the natural landscape and leaving pokemon with fewer habitats but there's the adding of invasive species from different times where they may end up confused and go wild in the modern world while also damaging the unique balance of the current era.

[@boianko]

@@hunterhq295 It's because it's purely an emotional decision. The professor wanted to recreate this fictional world they were obsessed with as a child, when in reality, if the imagination theory about Paradox Pokemon is true, that world doesn't actually exist. So the only thing they could do was try to turn our world into that imagined place through destroying the current one. An AI thinks logically, so it can't see the benefit of doing this, as the world the Professor wants won't ever become a reality no matter how many paradox pokemon they flood Area Zero with.

[@bessieburnet9816]

The evilness of the real professor is debatable, but the ai does imply they wouldn't care about the wanton destruction caused by the Paradox Pokémon.

[@dialgamor1548]

​@@boiankoI wouldn't call it purely emotional as much as a complete obsession. Because there is no emotional consideration given to the lives of other Pokemon and even people. It was both logically and emotionally cold and short-sighted. Something was totally wrong with the prof. They became a mad scientist really.

[@GageX]

i cant believe they used the whole "the real treasure was the friends we made along the way" as a plot theme and it works lmao

[@selfboredom3025]

AI Sada disagreeing with the human professors goals actually inspired me to write an entire alternate universe fan fiction series just exploring what kind of life she would lead if she did get out of Area Zero and it's just major wish fulfilment just giving Arven the good parent he deserves

[@BJGvideos]

PLEASE SHARE THIS. I love stories like that, dealing with Arven having a real relationship with the AI, and the AI having their own...well not "life" since they're not a living being, but being able to find happiness. I've written a few myself if you look at my community tab

[@BJGvideos]

i have amended this. The AI is totally a living being. Porygon are alive and they're just ducks made of code. Anyway what is your story called?

[@RayRayRay4547]

I saw a thumbnail with the Crystalized Professors while I was still playing the main story. I thought the Crystals were like the chordyceps virus and was controlling them. Suffice to say, I was pleasantly surprised and relieved to not have been spoiled cuz I’d been trying SO hard to stay spoiler free and had done a relatively good job up to that point.

[@mewdreamer]

I remember seeing some fan art about Arven's relationship with the professors, so I thought that effectively spoiled them as the twist villains of the games. But then I got to Area Zero and found out about the AI Professor. I was so happy that I didn't learn the truth ahead of time and I was able to experience the this storyline relatively spoiler free. Finding out that the professor was dead this whole time was such a brutal twist, especially for poor Arven. While the real Professors might not have been villains exactly, the fact that they went so far to protect the time machine gave me the impression that they were completely blinded by their obsession with the past/future. Nothing and no one else mattered to them by that point. I didn't think that the ending felt incomplete, but I did think that they glossed over Arven's grief a bit too quickly afterwards. It's possible that the AI Professor could appear in the DLC or more likely that the time machine still has some effects on Paldea since I would assume we'd get some more Paradox Pokemon at least.

[@LucarioShirona]

This is defiantly an ending that leaves you a bittersweet feeling. Fairly rare in a Pokemon Game that makes you feel this way, BW and SM are very closeto giving that same feeling but Scarlet and Violet really makes you feel this way, as if you feel like you might have failed. They brilliantly have you connect with the A.I. despite the little time you have with it, and to see it go makes you feel bad for not just the A.I. but also Arven as well.

[@moonbased7796]

Honestly, Sada/Turo (depending on the version you play) definitely are my favorite professors in a long time (before it was Juniper since she felt like a motherly figure to you and your friends in all of the gen 5 games) and honestly. If we do get DLC, regardless if we do see the AI professor again or not, would be cool if they bring them up regardless so we can learn more about them.

[@lightdarksoul2097]

I like that Juniper was one able to debate against N

[@moonbased7796]

@@lightdarksoul2097 true

[@christopherbennett5858]

Same. Just so they can be the parents Arven deserves.

[@BJGvideos]

@@christopherbennett5858 I would love that but I feel almost like that would defeat the purpose of the story. I do want the AI to return and I do want them to have a good relationship with Arven though. And if it would be a parent and child relationship then it would have to be something that develops on its own rather than as a substitute for the professor

[@JadeTheProtogen1]

I'M FROM THE FUTURE! HERE TAKE THIS BOOK! TAKE IT TO THE KITAKAMI CRYSTAL POOLS! YOU'LL MEET SOMEONE THERE! HAND THIS TO THEM AND THEY'LL TRADE IT FOR THEIR SCARLET/VIOLET BOOK! THIS IS A TIME LOOP! YOU NAMED THE WINGED KING AND IRON SERPENT!

[@jo-ri-oh8950]

It was said that the AI was built with the same mindset as the professor. At the end, the AI tells Arven how much it liked and its proud of him. It wasn't the AI feeling but the professor's ones to his/her son. I find it really interesting cause despite the fact that the AI is the exact same as the professor, it cannot understand his/her mindset of letting the Paradox destroy the Paldea ecosystem. It really shows how the professor became insane to the point he/she's unrecognizable

[@Gina_Silverrain]

I think the original professor lied. I think it didn't give all memories to the AI and left a crucial yet painfull part out of the AI's memory. For example, the other parent that left or information about the legendary from the DLC. This pain/knowledge shaped the original professor in a way that the AI cannot understand.

[@hamdepaf6686]

Another thing to note is the AI saying "so I understand better than any, your mother/father truly loved you" basically admitting that they themselves love Arven. I think that the reason the AI didn't tell Arven the truth earlier and went to the past/future is that they where scared, scared they could not replace the parent Arven lost and also scared of Arvens rejecting it. Basically they ran away. Throughout the whole dialogue the AI avoids speaking to Arven directly and whenever it does, the game doesn't show it's eyes, something typically used in media to show people hiding their emotions. I don't think the original professors where evil and the AI is basically mirroring a version of them that wasn't consumed by ambition, obsession over their dream and probably also grief of their lover abandoning the dream they probably shared. The difference between the games is probably what the professors choose to focus on, past or future, something either professor is more personally invested in, leaving the other with a more neutral view of the situation, eventually realising how much this obsession is consuming them, eventually making them walk out on the project.

[@charliemay3804]

So we can all agree that Arven’s the main character right?

[@dannykazari]

Arven and Lillie from SM have a lot in common, but Lillie's ending was much happier.

[@claran3616]

And N, don’t forget the trifecta

[@dura_14]

the twist at the end genuinely shocked me. it was incredible, and it blew me away. although the games themselves are... rough, the story (and music) is phenomenal.

[@CB_W0lf]

I love the whole concept of the ai professors. I got a little choked up when Sada went through the time machine. What freaks me out a little is that the Paradise Protection Program uses the Koraidon/Miraidon that supposedly caused the death/killed the living professor. Like, we had to stare down a pokemon capable of causing death, and it even says "running away would put everyone else in danger!" Like, it WOULD kill us, if we didn't have our own bike lizard. The fact that the Program uses that pokemon regardless of its crimes is interesting too.

[@bravewater5737]

I just wanna give the AI Professors a hug.

[@BJGvideos]

Same

[@tedscheett9420]

There has never been a character that I have wanted to give a hug to more than Arven. Everything, and I do mean EVERYTHING about him is tragic. How do you think he got his culinary skills? He had to eat, and since his parents weren't present, he would have to teach himself. But like any kid, he wanted to see his parents, and when he did, his best friend, Mabosstiff was mortally wounded, possibly by Terapagos, but I don't know. He looks at Koraidon/Miraidon with disgust because in essence, they are a reminder of his parents work, and Mabosstiff's injury. He does the one thing he can do in a desperate attempt to save his best friend, make food. And through his love and care saves his only family he has left. But as if the game didn't kick him down enough still... his parent comes asking for his help. When he finally sees them, it's not even them. It's just a robot wearing their face. But this shadow of his parent expresses thier pride in him, before being overtaken. GOD, man, let me give Arven a hug! He's suffered enough! At least let him meet N or Guzma so they can tell him everything will be alright!

[@kieran7251]

I like the idea of the opposite professor being introduced in the dlc. Who says Turo is dead in Scarlet and that Sada is dead in Violet?

[@christopherbennett5858]

I could definitely see that happen. However, they were still absent in Arven’s life if that was the case. Oh they could try to make up and start over but, as far as he’s concerned, Arven’s true family were Mabosstiff and the AI professors.

[@bessieburnet9816]

Who says they even exist? We technically have no direct confirmation that Sada/Turo are Arven's other parent. For all we know, Scarlet Arven's dad is just some bloke.

[@christopherbennett5858]

@@bessieburnet9816 Yeah. Plus, it’s weird that they didn’t even take custody of Arven.

[@wonderfulrose477]

@@christopherbennett5858 it’s stated the other parent left shortly after Arven was born as the professor became obsessed with their research.

[@christopherbennett5858]

@@wonderfulrose477 Makes sense but that still begs the question of where they are.

[@hawkfeather6802]

It's a little creepy to think when we go to the wrecked research center,the original professor's body is somewhere inside.

[@BJGvideos]

Either they're inside the crystal (if the fatal blow was Tera Blast) or the ai buried them somewhere

[@Latency345]

What I find interesting in Scarlet and Violet is the repeated motif of “Things you treasure”. What treasure to be exact? Riches? Achievements? Friends and Loved ones? Doesn’t matter, the story is centred within this one theme. To find and protect that which you treasure. A dream. But what happens when a dream goes too far and becomes an obsession? Case in Point is Professor Sada and Turo. They want a world where ancient/future pokemon coexist with modern Pokémon. They do their work faithfully and achieve it. However what are the consequences of this? Paldea’s ecosystem being endangered, People being put at risk, Their son neglected and grew up with no parent. Their dream has achieved great things and has made the impossible possible. But it has reached a point where anomalies are now being created. The Professor acknowledged this and brushed it off as natural selection. Is the AI our enemy? No, it’s our ally and sees the wrong in the Professor’s action. Is the Paradise Protection Protocol our enemy? No, it’s just a program that can’t think on it’s own. Is the Professor our enemy? No. They weren’t malevolent but was a danger. Scarlet’s and Violet’s true enemy is none other than that which you treasure most. A dream. Everyone has dreams, whether they are within reach or not doesn’t matter. Our friends in game have dreams of their own. Nemona dreamed of a rival to match her. Penny dreamed of a school with no bullies for her friends. Arven dreamed of his parents coming home one day and be a parent for once. The enemy was not the Professor, but the dream that they held dear. The disk pokemon down in Area Zero could have amplified that obsession, but it could never have planted the seeds that grew into this.

[@bessieburnet9816]

Yes! Creative writing lessons drill into the importance of theme, but you almost never really see how theme plays into stories. Scarlet and Violet is a shining example of why theme is needed. The theme of treasure is such a great driving force behind everything and connect s everything beautifully. In this essay, I will. Sada/Turo losing sight of the treasure that is their son, Arven treasuring Mabostiff so much he pursures legends and myths to heal him, Penny and the Team Star bosses treasuring their bonds very much, Geeta's whole thing about the Champions being Paldea's greatest treasure, the gems of Area Zero and Terastal Phenomenon, and the player desperately seeking the "treasure" in so many different areas but realising in the end that the true treasure is the bonds they made with Arven, Nemona, Penny, Koraidon/Miraidon and their Pokémon along the way. It's really inspiring me to put more effort into finding a theme in my writing, now that I have an example to guide me. This and Chicago.

[@BJGvideos]

The professor still knew about the destruction their plan would cause and went ahead anyway, dismissing it as being simply a part of life. And yet if destruction is such a natural thing, then why did they interfere with the dragons? Why give their life to save one if destruction is inherent to existence?

[@KnightsofGaming2016]

What made me stay up at night thinking about is where the remains of the Professor are. Are they buried in the rubble near where we meet the AI professors as a sort of makeshift burial? Or were they just left somewhere to be eaten by the wildlife in Area Zero? Not to mention, they were still slightly alive before passing away so imagine them thinking about Arven and their regrets as they slowly succumbed to their injuries... Sorry for such a dark comment idea. I know Pokemon wouldn't show an actual corpse, but it's still something to think about...

[@TDIdialgagirl]

One of my friends said Miraidon/Koraidon ate the professor She's "that" friend

[@Kahtisemo]

I've honestly thought about that too. And worse the idea of those last moments when it finally hits them, they have no one. They died out there where no one could reach them. Where no one even knew they were gone. The AI would keep things going, meaning it could have been months or even years before anyone even thought to look for them had the AI not had enough conscience to reach out for help. If they had thought of Arven, was it with regret? With fear if he'd be okay? With sorrow that he may never know what happened to them? Or was it just selfishness to the end, dying with the thought how they'd never get to see their dream realized because of this foolish bitter end?

[@BJGvideos]

If they were hit by Tera Blast it's possible that they were consumed by crystals and are in the giant crystal inside the fourth station.

[@claran3616]

I mean I ASSUME they were buried somewhere?

[@aromanticfranziskavonkarma]

i saw a comic where the AI sent professor turo's ashes to the future, not quite sure how it would have cremated him down there but it was a sweet concept

[@RyanNerdyGamer]

I’m curious as to whether the opposite version Professor appears alive and well in the DLC (Turo in Scarlet/Sada in Violet), perhaps as part of an expedition team alongside Nemona’s parents, who are also strangely absent in the base game… 🤷🏻‍♂️ Ooh, and imagine if Heath is revealed as Penny’s ancestor! Now, _that’d_ be an interesting way to include all three of the player’s friends and classmates. 🤔 The only other thing that comes to mind is that Raifort could be the one to set the player on-course (pun not intended), and is revealed as a colleague of one or both professors, which could make her Arven’s legal guardian in their absence… well, other than his good boi Mabosstiff, of course. 🐾

[@thepokemonqueen]

since the other professor walked out on arven when he was a baby, I think it's entirely possible that they could reappear in the dlc, but I wonder if that would feel like artificially extending arven's story if that makes sense. I liked the ending and it felt natural, so bringing back the other parent might alter that 🤷🏻‍♀️ but it would be funny to see arven chew out his other parent for leaving & reappearing with no notice 😂

[@kingkmtso5107]

Nah I think Heath is the ancestor of Clavell

[@RyanNerdyGamer]

Homer: “Arven saved his dog, but didn’t save his parent… is this a happy ending or a sad ending?” 🫤 Marge: “It’s an ending, that’s enough.” 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@BJGvideos]

Well now we have Briar and oh god

[@BJGvideos]

@@thepokemonqueen Would Arven even know his other parent by name?

[@ShatoraDragondore]

I got the feeling on the first play threw that when journals talked about "They left.." it was in reference to the other professor (Sadda for Violent Turo for Scarlet) So Arven dose have a parent they never even knew still out there opening up DLC Of the "Opposite" Prof showing up

[@nerd_world8919]

This has got to be one of the best storylines in a Pokémon game yet. When telling a friend about the story they couldn’t believe Pokémon would tackle such a heavy topic as the lost of a parent & abandonment. When playing it and heading deeper into the crater I got to the point of being like “I have a bad feeling about this…” but I never suspected Sada & Turo were AIs.

[@Sak23017]

Pretty sure Arvin's other parent is still alive as one of the books stated that I am just hoping that the other parent does meet Arvin

[@BJGvideos]

Yeah but it still means they walked out when Arven was an infant

[@tlotpwist3417]

They went from hyped memed professor to EMOTIONAL DAMAGE! 10/10 best professors in Pkmn history

[@imheretomakeyoucringe7950]

Arven is so traumatized. Nearly cried for him every time he spoke. He needs a hug.

[@KABIGON4445]

This game do have moments that makes us cry

[@YoruMochizuki]

Ive been watching your videos on and off via recommend, but this one truly set me into joining the memberships while I can ^-^ i love seeing people dive into lore, and I can see in your videos how much you care about it!

[@GatorEX]

Thank you! Yep, definitely so fun to take a moment to look a little closer at these moments from the games!

[@autismandgaming4532]

Let’s not forget my favourite part of the storyline... The part where you get sued by ed sheeren

[@nikitolita0460]

I also think it's very interesting that, while talking to Arven during the final moments of this plotline, the name box sometimes says "Professor Sada/Turo?" instead of "AI Sada/Turo", though I am not sure how this could be interpreted... apparently more of the real professor coming through again? I mean a part of them kinda continued to live through the AI, eventhough they are seperate characters

[@grapejuice9681]

The ending for this story made me cry and I don’t remember the last time a Pokémon game made me do that. It’s by far my favorite story in any Pokémon game period.

[@FloraComet]

This has to be one of my favorite story that Pokemon has done alongside Legends Arceus, Sun and Moon and Black and White.

[@meta527II]

It breaks my heart to know that we never actually saw Professor Sada, and that she was dead all along. Really hurts to hear this about one of the best Paldean waifus.

[@OYJluv]

I cried... i cried a lot.

[@kingkmtso5107]

Cringe

[@conwool2609]

Hey, she could be in the Violet DLC?

[@BJGvideos]

@@meta527II one of the best waifus? She was a mad scientist who ditched her son to be a paranoid cave gremlin for years and had already stopped replying to him long before she died

[@OYJluv]

I cried so much with that ending... it literally broke my heart.😭💔

[@BJGvideos]

I feel like that ending changed my brain chemistry or something

[@luckyinky7849]

I've seen somewhere that the professors act as some kind of parental figure to the player (mostly father because the player's one aren't present except from Brandon/May) since they take you under their wings, teach you stuff and is affectionate towards you. With Sada and Turo you don't have that same feeling at all since you never see them in public and pretty rarely only to tell you to do something. You don't have the same protection that you get from the other professors.

[@ninjaydes]

If they're meant to be parental figures, then I calls dibs on Professor Kukui. Oak sucks!

[@mouthwaterin]

I'm taking Sonia for reasons

[@cainyourkids]

They sorta played with it in this game - instead of the professor being the "parental figure" in your journey, in here it's Director Clavell (who, himself, is also a professor - that's the title usually given to the head of a school).

[@dresseuse_de_johto]

This battle instantly became my favorite final boss of the whole series, and one of my favorite final bosses of all time. I really wanted the Professor to be evil. What I got is even better. The orignal professor is arguably evil and is clearly the antagonist... but they're long dead. And what we're fighting against is what they left behind. I LOVE that. And then we have the AI twisting the trope of Evil AI Replacing Character by being the good guy while the original professor's was the bad guy. And being able to befriend the AI after being suspicious of the professo for all this time felt nice. And another trope I like is characters having to fight against their friends against their will, but I usually find it unsatisfying when the situation is resolved by the possessed / controlled character regaining control of themselves only through their own will and / or the power of friendship. But here, the AI is fighting us against their will... but they truly are powerless against their programming. There's no easy way out, we have to fight and beat them. And the battle itself is really cinematic. The AI using the time machine just before the battle to assemble their team, the Master Ball finishing the capture in the AI's hand, the AI towering above us and casually drooping Master Ball after Master Ball. And the music is so good. And mechanically, it's a very fun and unique challenge to fight all those strange Pokémon whose typing you don't know yet. And the scripted legendary battle right after really cool. I'm a little obsessed with final bosses in video game, and I love to imagine how I would've personally changed a villain or a final boss to make it better. But here, I struggle to find anything to improve. This final battle really surpassed my expectations, and my expectations for final bosses are always really high. TL;DR: I really really love this final boss.

[@dresseuse_de_johto]

And I forgot to mention their character design which is GOATed.

[@autismandgaming4532]

I think the emotions this fight makes are perfectly summed up in 3 words which the AIs themselves says: "Please... Defeat me"

[@Ihateeveryone831]

@@autismandgaming4532 I actually cried during that part

[@spamtong.spamton8416]

I think the only way the final boss could possibly be improved would be to have the Guardian of Paradise Terastallize and make you, Arven, Nemona and Penny fight it in a 4-on-1 Tera Raid-style battle.

[@BJGvideos]

@@autismandgaming4532 God I wanted to hug the AI so bad.

[@AHylianWarrior]

The music during the battle feels incredibly sad. It's played as if it's a broken "triumphant" theme with the music trying to sound happy but it keeps going into the lower keys and even has that gap where there's only a couple of instruments playing without the beat. It felt like a good story, but had a sad ending especially for Arven

[@agentomecha634]

I’ve never really cared for Pokémon plots before this and PLA. I’m definitely glad I avoided spoilers for Area Zero. The buildup to the reveal was so well done and I definitely wasn’t expecting the professor to have been killed by one of the Paradox pokemon. And the AI being forced to stop you from shutting down the Time Machine made a really cool fight. I can’t tell you how bad I felt for Arven once he realized his only parent was dead and that he never really had a chance to have a parental relationship with them. And that his only family was Mabosstiff. The fact a Pokémon story made me feel something is something I never thought I would say. (Not counting the Mystery Dungeon games. Those have really good plots as well.) While SCVI are extremely glitchy games, the story they tell makes up for it for me. I do hope the DLC helps explain the events that led up to the creation of the Time Machine and what the Disk Pokemon is and how the professors became so intrigued with time travel that they were willing to risk Paldea’s safety and their own lives.

[@Rhapsodos_X]

The universal theme of SV, the schools, and Paldea at large is to grow and find your treasure. The main 3 storylines have great answers: Victory Road, Pokemon. Titans, pets. Starfall, friends. The final story is the antithesis. The professor grew up and attended the school same as us. On their treasure hunt, they stumbled upon the works/documentation of Area Zero. Yet their story detours into the bad end. The treasure became an obsession, and it detracted from their life. Alienating their fellow researchers (only capable of working with a robot clone), their once classmates, and even their son. It is a word of warning to not be so caught up in whatever glitters that you lose all the wealth you had before. Side note: This is echoed in the ruins that dot Paldea too. The old kingdom, once prosperous, threw it away in pursuit of feeding their avarice, resulting in the Ruinious pokemon. I just love the fact that the region based on Spain has undergone great lengths to stress that while we are born entitled to seek our treasures, blind greed for fame and fortune is destructive.

[@TheMaskedFox288]

Arven became my absolute favorite character in Scarlet. I just want to give him a hug and some therapy

[@walteracevedo5105]

A hidden detail of the Time Machine, or at least I think so, the slot for the Scarlet/Violet book to put in looks similar to the back of Nintendo's first Gameboy.

[@daniellelondon439]

This was a great video! The way that this storyline was concluded felt both like it could have gone differently than it did, but at the same time, there was no other way that the problem could have been resolved.

[@Starlight1680]

Another big hint to the professor being a robot is actually in their animation. When leaving an animated character idle it’s important for them to have some kind of movement (bobbing shoulders, slight swaying, etc.) to suggest some kind of life to the character. The professor actually lacks this idle breathing animation while everyone else still has it. It’s a neat little detail because it’s something you won’t even notice is there but you do notice when it’s missing and it automatically sets off alarm bells.

[@dougtheghoul2845]

My dlc theory is that the paradox Suicune/Virizon being a guardian to the third legendary that was always in area zero. Especially as Arven's mabosstiff got injured by a paradox pokemon but he never recognized one inside area zero when the time machine opened

[@ursfan]

This game had me fucking screaming at 3AM. The flurry of emotions was insane. Absolutely did *not* see any of this shit coming.

[@shiratojin]

I adore the dialogue in the game while the text is shifting from AI Turo/Sada to the Paradise Protection Protocol during the last battle. (It says something along the lines of “AI Turo/Sada no longer wants to fight!”) also the fact that the AI professors would both likely die brutally within the future or the past (many of the Pokémon from those places that we’ve seen are incredibly violent, and there still may be more undocumented pokemon from that era, also both of them would most likely run out of whatever it is that’s powering them)

[@BJGvideos]

Even the brutal dragon that killed the original professor doesn't attack the AI. It's possible that they sense that the AI isn't a living being so they don't see this person as a threat. Also what's powering them is the existence of the crystals in Area Zero and there's no reason to assume that those won't be there in either timeline, unless Sada went SO far back that it predated whatever made the crater to begin with.

[@XAEzl]

Late, but I think it's worth mentioning that the original professor was killed at rhe very very start of the game. The opening cutscene is the ride Koradion fleeing Area Zero.

[@ayoayostupid4841]

I paused the video at the beginning when the text glitches to "you are challenged by the paradise protection protocol" and I just discovered that for a very brief moment it says "AI Sada has no intention of fighting anymore" it's incredible

[@playingwithstory247]

I hope we will see a continuation of the professor's story in the DLC. They made a point of showing them taking the Scarlet/Violet book with them into the past/present respectively. They even went so far as to alter the title screen in the post game to show that the book is no longer on the desk. If I remember the story correctly, they also never specifically say that Sada/Turo invented the time machine, just that they were working on it, a detail that always stuck out to me. It's interesting to think that the book was discovered by someone else in the past/future, creating a time loop where that person creates the time machine and goes to area zero, where Sada/Turo find and repair it, only to eventually have the machine shut down by their departure and the book returned to the past/future with them once again. We saw this kind of thing hinted at in Pokemon Legends Arceus with the subway boss from Black and White ending up in Hisui, so I'm interested to see where GameFreak goes with their time travelling trend. Thanks for the great video!

[@BJGvideos]

I always got the feeling that the machine was there and the professor just figured how to use it

[@oslonicl6251]

"We never even meet the original human professor as they're long dead" Guys

[@BJGvideos]

@@oslonicl6251 we still don't meet THEM though, not the one from our world. The Sada or Turo we meet is from a different timeline

[@aromanticfranziskavonkarma]

i feel like playing the entirety of the way home at 2 in the morning while incredibly sleep deprived induces shrimp emotions only explainable by that one tails gets trolled reaction image

[@Burger-dq9nf]

poor arven, his parents died and he didnt even know 😭but i guess they technically didnt care to even see their kid

[@yeetuszilla1663]

AI Sada made one big mistake... Past=no electricity Future=has electricity AI Sada has much more limited time compared to Turo

[@vodachan4458]

Unless she can pop out solar panels or something

[@adrianleonce455]

They don't really need electricity to function. They said they rely on the Terastal crystals to stay alive. So, both of them have very limited time in their time periods.

[@BJGvideos]

​@@adrianleonce455 See that tells me that both of them will be fine, since there's no reason to think that those crystals won't exist in those times

[@jancevaughn8539]

pokémon violet and scarlet: kick arven while he's down

[@KosmoZer0]

I'd like to believe that in a future DLC we will see some sort of evidence to the Professor being able to keep a watch on our current timeline and maybe assist us in some time of crisis. I just felt that it ended a bit more bitter than sweet and would like to see them maybe sending the Scarlet/Violet book through time in an attempt to thank us or maybe to travel to these times for a short period.

[@BJGvideos]

I just want some verification that they were happy

[@NightTheKittenn]

They really had the AI say “Look how you’ve grown, I’m so proud of you.” To Arven and expected me to be ok about it

[@sophieamandaleitontoomey9343]

Professor Turo is probably my favorite final boss since N and Ghetsis.

[@Shadow___Eevee]

Spoliers for Indigo disk: I like how they made it to where you get to talk with the actual professor in the post game and it give you an option asking about are you the AI professor and they go " that's an interesting idea"

[@BJGvideos]

@@Shadow___Eevee yeah but it's a different timeline professor, not the one from our world

[@mr.slappii513]

I legit forgot that Sword and Shield even had a Professor

[@Transformer.W]

To me the coolest part of the game is when all your poke balls lock then you send you Miraidon//Koraidon out he looks at you then start shining flies up and wave hits everywhere and he turns into his battle form.

[@bessieburnet9816]

I smiled at this twist. That explained why there was no other footage of Sada and Turo after their reveal. And the Pokémon Professor be the villain of this game?! Genius! What a beautiful subversion and make the typical Pokémon Professor archetype actually be a mad scientist. They've never spun on that before. All Professors have been positive mentors before this and some are more well rounded characters than others. But for the writers of Gen 9 to take this expectations of the Professor that we have grown too complacent in and shatter it... Wow! Commendations across the board! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 Oo, hoping for an evil champion next! Think about it, a hero figure for the player and the region, like Leon, lauded as this great person and figure, and then he turns out to not be the great person they all thought. Juicy! 😋

[@rockassassin64]

another connection to the theme of the league story is the top champion is not even a challenge for Nemona which has left her listless. which is not super obvious since her mood improves right away as she meets you but I feel like i remember a few people hinting at it at least.

[@nataliecoronado4206]

Even though they are fundamentally the same character, I can't help but have a stronger appreciation for Sada over Turo. Absent mothers are much less talked about in media than absent fathers. And with SV's theme of putting faith in the future generation, the idea of the Pokemon Professor, one of the greatest authorities in the region, being so obsessed with the past that she was willing to prioritize it over her son's future, the region's future, and even her own future, it just feels like a natural progression of the themes of the game. And if you take the AI robot she made into consideration, as well as the pictures of Arven as a child in both her Poco Path lab and the Zero Lab, it becomes clear that Sada had the potential to look to the future right in front of her instead of dwelling on the past. But because of her fixation on bringing Ancient Pokemon to the modern day, it became the only thing she invested her time and energy into. But in the end, all it did was get her killed.

[@anjealousanaconda9692]

I legit started crying when AI Sada tried to get the group to run away❤😢

[@lucariosenpai9026]

When I entered the final part of Violet and saw that the professor was sitting on a stool with his eyes open, I had the instant thought: robot?

[@soulglitcher]

I thought that the professor would return in the epilogue and be like: hey, guys, it's been just...a couple million years since I said hi, right?

[@BJGvideos]

That's what fanfiction is for

[@Stesey-B]

I remember the first time I saw the professor in the cutscene I said ' damn he moves like a robot '

[@sidneyprice5514]

The Way Home felt like an ending that was designed to be open ended, whether by choice or accident is up for debate, as a sort of way to build on what was there. Maybe the time machine turns back on and more Paradox Pokemon find their way into Paldea. Maybe the characters are sucked into the past/future. And I think that works.

[@larry9351]

Them using a full team with 6 matching master balls was such a statement

[@sam007695]

Arven story was the best in my opinion both from a story and gameplay standpoint. We get to find more about him, his motives and baggage and also unlocking abilities to better traverse the overworld. In comparison to making TMs from starfall or more shop items from Gyms getting bike upgrades is better.

[@周生生-f1f]

It's both surprising and genius that not only the professor is legitimately dead by the events of S/V, the AI professor is actually a nice person, and actually renegaded against their creator because it intepretated and rationally deduced that its creator is wrong and has to do everything to stop the human, instead of reusing the cliche that the AI would go overboard and needed humans to stop it

[@Cuprite1024]

I'll be honest, that last hour or so of the game rivals the entirety of Gen 5 for me, which is high praise cause Gen 5's story is great. Idk what happened during the writing of the last part of the story here, but I'm glad it *did* happen. :) My only real complaint about this section of SV is just how interchangeable Sada and Turo are. They're literally just the same character with a different skin, which sucks (Also Violet overall makes less sense to me, it feels like the story was written for Scarlet and they just remembered Violet existed later into development).

[@adrianleonce455]

Violet makes less sense story-wise? Honestly, I feel like Scarlet is the one that makes less sense due to future related stuff like AIs and time machine being presented in a past- focused game.

[@Cuprite1024]

@@adrianleonce455 She may dress like a cavewoman but she's still a professor, she *would* be using a lot of technology. Besides, how else would she be able to bring stuff in from the past without the time machine? Its not like she's just gonna stumble upon Celebi.

[@adrianleonce455]

@@Cuprite1024 Hmmmmm, yeah you kinda got a point🤔. She may focus on the past, but that doesn't mean she can't use technology to research it. It's kinda like Jurassic Park now that I'm thinking more of this. Though, I still don't understand the "story written for Scarlet first" part.

[@ArtzyZero]

It's weird because I feel like bringing Pokémon into the past to co-exist with humans is more realistic than bringing them from the future and works better with what real life science is trying to do. But the AI assistant being an identical copy of the real professor and the time machine feels more in line with futuristic technology, it's a weird mish-mash but it's probably somewhat intentionally written that way so that it works with both themes.

[@aquafox_x]

The ending actually nearly made me cry, Arven had no parents, I had expected the AI to basically become his new parent but it didn’t. It was just all sad

[@OniBoiXD]

I understood the ai professor differently 🤔. I understood that the ai was made to run the time machine; as in it was part of it. The professor copied their mind and after their death the ai (which has a copy of the professors mind) realized how dangerous it all was. The Ai was running off the professors knowledge until the security system activated which was a simple goal(protect time machine) related ai behavior written by the original professor before they saw how dangerous it all was...but that's just how I interpreted it 😅

[@BJGvideos]

@@OniBoiXD we know the AI had differed with the professor during their lifetime because they mention the professor's flippant response to that objection

[@Prima_Media]

i love the ai professor so much, definitely my favorite character, id love to see dlc expand upon the lore of the time machine and paradox pokemon, but id really hate it if the professor was somehow alive all along

[@BJGvideos]

The only way I could accept them being alive is if they were being kept alive by the weird crystal in the fourth research station and had been twisted into something far beyond any human understanding.

[@rikajougasaki3296]

Rather than the original Prof being still alive, I'm thinking Turo lives in Scarlet & Sada lives in Violet.

[@Genesukt64]

GODDAMN, THAT ENDING made me cry tbh 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@TreyC68]

The ending of SV just served to give Arven emotional damage

[@BJGvideos]

It gave ME emotional damage!

[@liagotosleep264]

I literally cried for Arven

[@sushi457]

I actually forgot the other professors name, I played violet and I loved the ai twist, and that the real professor is dead and we were talking to an ai the whole time.

[@SorceressRose]

It would be pretty great to see the other alive professor as the principal of Blueberry Academy, where we get more backstory on them and the main professor who died. But all I can say about the main game is that the game did have an amazing storyline and honestly, the best part was the plot twist and the final true battle of the game. It will go down as one of my most favorite things in any Pokemon game!

[@RaspberyLemonade]

And the theme of the Ai Professor slapped hard!

[@kaialter9990]

The story fr made me cry

[@chayimweinstock443]

I did love how for all scarlet/violet’s missteps it did some genuinely interesting things and my final battle with AI Turo was amazing. I hope to see the upcoming DLC match or hopefully even exceed the standard set by the base game.

[@generalzeta7000]

Arven was an orphan and didn't even know it. Really sad for him.