The Tragic Demise of Yu-Gi-Oh Video Games

[@TeamAPS]

Which type of Yu-Gi-Oh video game do you prefer: a simulator service or different spins on the franchise? I think they both have their merits, but I prefer the latter!

[@SacredBlazeXxX]

I would love more pve player games with a bit more of a simplification trying to reduce redundant phases or activation windows. Making it a bit more like Hearthstone if that makes sense.

[@QueensShield]

a mix of a simulator + little adventure story mode where you can walk around and unlock cards!

[@Merilirem]

I love different spins but its only through simulators that I can play daily. Without sims I would need to drive hours to play. Its a whole day trip minimum. If I could play locally I would prefer the alternate takes like Duelist of the roses.

[@aquelgamermexicano]

The problem is that the simulators don't really simulate enough. Master Duel for instance yes, it is a really good execution of the card game, but it really doesn't try to go any further than "Here's a render of a monster or card you love", everything else is just the card game, which you can get since the PS1 days. I personally feel the best kind of YGO Video game is the one that combines quirks and makes ANIME simulator service? YGO Online and Tag Force are the ones that come to mind since, fundamentally they also offer the same experience if not more given the pre-rendered cutscenes for boss monsters, but they're focused on representing the feeling of the anime, with the different reactions and animations from characters and/or avatars. I feel when it comes to YGO videogames, the flashier and anime-esque it feels, the better.

[@nicholasmarquez3399]

Tag force needs to come back

[@Mangakamen]

As someone who's been playing a LOT of the old school yugioh games, and making videos on them, I feel like Konami is really sleeping on a lot of potential. Stuff like Dungeon Dice monsters or Capsule Monster Coliseum are games that have a LOT of good going for them, but were hindered because actual physical releases couldn't be feasible - But digitally? They could really expand upon yugioh of just being a card game and make it a full on diverse franchise.

[@valutaatoaofunknownelement197]

I've been think about similar things with your last point, given how the monster verse of Yugioh is presented. Just like Time Wizard and Tag/Team formats, there's a goldmine in marketing Yugioh's non TCG aspects.

[@CB-L]

DDM was seriously flawed, yes(I had horrible experience reaching all the way to Dark Tournaments), but it still had interesting stuff going on. Especially picking up early Manga characters - which no other game did. Stuff like Capsule, Falsebound etc still look interesting though I don't think Konami's gonna restore any of them soon..

[@TheDeathmail]

The problem is that Yugioh isn't actually popular any more... It's basically very niche and not worth the development time needed for the result.... and even if older fans played the games, they might not like it unless if it's the proper Yugioh card game... It will take time and money for a product that probably won't sell well...

[@CB-L]

@@TheDeathmail You have a point but Konami is just weird and ignorant - They decided to restore one of the worst rated vintage GB DM games. (iirc announced in Tokyo Dome event)

[@rangingaway92]

Konami is sitting on so many good IP's and know nothing about how to use them. Yugioh is just another one

[@LeedleLee457]

Duelist of the Roses was cool because it had complete 3D models of so many cards. Including cards that only ever showed their face. So that was your first and only time ever seeing the full body of certain monsters like The Snake Hair, who's card only showed her face, but the model showed her entire snake-like body.

[@CB-L]

It was made so well that they even decided to use some of the models in later DS World Championship games(while they still had little solid vision 3d field displayed)

[@malikperkins8312]

We didn’t know how good we had it. I’m still playing this game on my ps2

[@WarrickAuthor]

@@LeedleLee457 I still play Duelists of the Roses to this day. The ai is kind of dumb, but the 7 x 7 grid with terrain buffs and movement boosts made for a really interesting experience. Deck leaders having abilities, certain old school cards having different abilities (Cyberstein, Pumpking, Mystical Elf, Riryoku [busted effect in DOTR], etc), being able to fuse without polymerization, the ability to send cards to the grave immediately when you had either 5 spells/traps or monsters out, etc. These were all super fun mechanics that made YGO feel alive and tactical. God I love this game, even though the ai wasn't quite there in some of the easier duels.

[@crowley12]

Master Duel : in Steam Duelist of the Roses : in PS2 Tag Force : in My Heart❤

[@lianrozenplay3448]

@@crowley12 hard

[@willysharpe1169]

Tag Force is in my heart to you

[@willysharpe1169]

Tag Force is in my heart to you

[@ElPatriarcaLeviatanLaFabula]

Tag force 2 for me gang 😩

[@Pen_Slinger]

My heart is sad, I never got to experience those games as a kid.

[@CasualCooper]

I definitely loved the Tag Force, Duelists of the Roses, Capsule Monsters and Falsebound Kingdom. All very creative and still engaging games that can still be expanded on even further.

[@tobybala]

Cooper spotted love your playthroughs of the tag force games.

[@xxtyphlosionxx8122]

Duelists of the roses was such a w just needed better ai. falsebound kingdom idk man the troops would move so slow i remembered lol

[@CasualCooper]

@@xxtyphlosionxx8122 ah yeah it was. Some troops were much faster, but overall the average speed should have been a little faster.

[@invertbrid]

Facts. Duelist of the roses and moreover, tag force series def are my fave YGO game. Tho I like tag force 1 style the best, the series after got bit shorter storyline (4 hearts instead of 8) and some games even determine ur partner at start.

[@willysharpe1169]

Cooper wow one of my favorites what are you doing here well anyway at least I know you're true do Yu-Gi-Oh an tag Force

[@Weareonenation303]

After Championship 2011: Over The Nexus for Nintendo DS, YGO game releases drastically dropped.

[@msrodrigues2000]

The quality already dropped from YWCS 2008 to 2011 cause the AI runs so much slower, it literally can sit there for 50 seconds just to set a monster and pass

[@DivineSoldierofGrace]

I agree though I personally loved Over the Nexus. I'm just sad they stopped making the world championship series. I feel like it could've been very inviting to newer players or just current players who want like a more casual experience while being able to experiment with decks

[@Weareonenation303]

@@msrodrigues2000 100% true but I find the cursor that checks for continuous effects in Reshef Of Destruction is even more unbearable than the slow ass CPU in those game.

[@kylefraser217]

@@msrodrigues2000 yugioh 5ds championship 2009 2010 2011 and yugioh forbidden Memories was amazing game

[@_Vengeance_]

And whatever games they did release, they often either kept Japan-only or nerfed greatly: no Tag Force 6 and Special, no Saikyo Card Battle, tons of cut content for Zexal World Duel Carnival, none of the updates for that Sevens game and no sequel.

[@DarthPyrusTheVirus]

For some reason, they shifted entirely to simple duel simulators and dropped the open-world story-driven stuff. Maybe that's what fans really wanted at the time (maybe they still do?), or maybe Konami found it cheaper and more financially consistent to go this route. Personally, I enjoy the older games that aren't strict duel simulators a lot more than Duel Links and Master Duel. I liked running around Battle City or Duel Academy and going through an actual plot.

[@Bakatora04]

Between Duel Links taking the anime fanservice and not new anime to tell new stories, they have zero reasons to create a story driven game. The last story driven they did was for Rush duel since they had an anime.

[@DarthPyrusTheVirus]

@@Bakatora04 hey, it makes them money, so no reason to do other things. Makes sense from a business standpoint.

[@RashFaustinho]

Back in very VERY early days pre-Tag Force, fans did complain about the lack of videogame with proper game rules. I know this sounds weird nowdays, but the only consoles that were following the proper card game were the PSP and DS. PS1 and PS2 had a lot of weird stuff. I feel like they failed to strike a balance.

[@bearerofbadnews1375]

Closet we got was Yu-gi-oh rush duel dawn of the battle royale which was sorta an rpg. But 1 I don’t anyone knew that game existed and 2 nobody likes Yu-gi-oh Sevens. I don’t mind that show btw.

[@VixYW]

@@RashFaustinho Although, Tag Force 1 had a PS2 release. People often forget about that, but it did happen.

[@DigitalxGamer]

As someone who doesn't like where the game is now, I, to this day, still go back and play these older Yugioh games. Whether it's a duel simulator with an adventure mode like the Yugioh Championship Series or an off-the-wall, completely bonkers but completely unique take on Yugioh like Duelists of the Roses, I absolutely love so many of these old games. This was the era where Yugioh was at its peak, and the quality of these games really shows that. From the GBA era all the way up through the DS. Hell, I played the hell out of World Duel Carnival, which was a ZEXAL game on the 3DS. It was just a duel simulator with a very limited story kind of deal, but it was still fun to have a videogame and play against AI opponents. Some of them are pretty hit or miss, ESPECIALLY duel simulator games. Some of those older ones got extremely repetitive, like 2006. Some of my favorite old Yugioh games were the ones where you got to relive the anime moments but as an OC with a deck all your own that you get to build from the ground up. Games like Stairway to the Destined Duel, GX: Spirit Caller and the 5D's games (ESPECIALLY Reverse of Arcadia, that game was amazing!). But there were original games I loved as well, like Duelists of the Roses. The weird, original game I probably fell in love with the most was Capsule Monster Coliseum, which I can only assume was based on the Capumon concept from the original Yugioh manga. The anime even adapted a TV special based on this concept too, so that was pretty fun! I really had a blast with these games, and I sorely miss the days when Yugioh videogames actually had effort put into them. The games we have are fine and serviceable. But they're very...vanilla and boring. Duel Links was fun for a little while, when it was just an homage to older Yugioh, but then they started updating it with all the new mechanics again and I personally fell off of it. But I do appreciate the flavor in that game, at least. I really do hope this VR game you mentioned takes off. Even if it's just a duel simulator, being able to play with holographic monsters has been a legit dream of mine since I was a kid! Make more games about the MONSTERS, not card game sims! There's a lot of potential in the Yugioh/Duel Monsters concept that is just being ignored these days. Games that can't really effectively be released physically like Dungeon Dice Monsters work amazingly well in a digital, videogame format. Do more stuff like that! Make original games with the gold mine of monster designs you already have!

[@CB-L]

One less known fact is that Duelist of the Roses had ALL deck leader quotes cut on international releases - and it still is one of the best weird spin-off game in the franchise.

[@thewolfking3054]

Man I miss the tag force games.....

[@nicholasmarquez3399]

Same

[@Rene-ij1ut]

@@thewolfking3054 I'd love a Port of the first three as a package for the Switch

[@brucelau2023]

same

[@brucelau2023]

@@Rene-ij1ut legit tho so do i

[@cbgg1585]

Emulated the games on the Steam Deck and have them on my Vita. Always a great time. Literally the perfect down time/podcast games to play-through while at home chilling.

[@challengerjakku1943]

Konami are honestly sleeping on a boat load of money with the Tag Force Series. They could deadass make a Persona like Yugioh Game spanning all of the eras with 60 plus hours of content if they wanted to.

[@feIon]

bro im telling you... the gx tag force series of games were genuinely INCREDIBLE

[@theHeavyMetalHermit]

Man I miss the old Tag Force games. Still replay them from time to time, but the AI is super janky. But it's just fun playing with the world of GX or 5Ds. Walking around Duel Academy, buying sandwiches, interacting with NPCs, following storylines. Having no way to buy cards with real money and instead having to unlock them gradually and upgrade your deck every step of the way. From time to time, I check to see if any of the Tag Force Games got added to Play Station Premium. It's the one thing that would get me to upgrade my subscription to that tier.

[@feIon]

whoever made the tag force games genuinely made a whole set of video game masterpieces. the music, the spritework, the vibe, the character interactions, the UI, the battle setups. literally everything was perfect. i can't think of one thing to complain about. also it was insanely cool that you could actually find and duel jinzo and dark magician girl etc

[@williamholland415]

​@feIon it was cool and all but the ai in the first one at least is garbage.

[@theHeavyMetalHermit]

@@williamholland415 Yeah, which is a real shame for me because I like the progression system of Tag Force 1 the most. How you're one of the students, how time is passing in real time, you go through several arcs, and experience the events of season 1 in "real time" instead of just reminiscing about them. I like a lot of the features that Tag Force 2 and 3 added. The mini games are cool. New cards and characters are great, obviously. Time not passing in increments of 15 minutes, which makes every day last an eternity! But Tag Force 1 just felt the most immersive out of all the GX Tag Force games, by far

[@loope9421]

@@theHeavyMetalHermit I learned how to play yugioh thanks to the tag force games lol. Duel Academy felt soo real to me back then, I grew fond of the characters and their funny moments in between classes. This was my “Persona” game, before I played any of the SMT games lol. The time sections really made me plan out my days.

[@MegaShingo97]

@@williamholland415 I think the AI for your partners in the first 3 games is bad. I didn't play the sequels yet so i don't know about them now.

[@MattSmith-fi2dj]

I got into and learned to play Yu-Gi-Oh! because of the top-down RPG-style games. As Paul suggests, the simulators are great to an extent but lack the kitschiness and charm of the games. As someone else say, the simulators just do not simulate enough: specifically the social engagement of sitting across the table.

[@rangingaway92]

Those are the real games IMO, the physical card game is a disaster of bad design, horrible style and greed.

[@mikehawk8984]

I'm suprised that Capsule Monster Coliseum wasn't mentioned. It was essentially Final Fantasy Tactics but for YuGiOh and it was great

[@eddy9524]

I was shocked it had a legit voice over. Very rad

[@tacticalmattress]

That was the first Yu-Gi-Oh video game that I played. I had Duelist of Roses too but I played Coliseum first, loved that game. I emulated it recently and it honestly is still a fun concept.

[@crimson_shadow3591]

@@mikehawk8984 Capsule Monster Coliseum was my favorite and was done really well given how it was missing a few pieces in game. Capsule Monster Coliseum Duelist of the Roses Forbidden Memories Falsebound Kingdom These were the best yugioh games made imo. I love the tag force series & world championship as well but nothing holds to those 4 I mentioned. Standard card game has become not enjoyable imo. May these games come back in the early collection

[@xxbeastmode-sh3iv]

Duelist of the roses is the best yu gi oh video game and sadly probably would not work with newer summoning mechanics, but would be cool to see a gx version

[@pinkfrappe_]

Maybe not, but that hasn't stopped them before. In Falsebound Kingdom, a bunch of monsters included were normally Fusion or Ritual monsters or had to be created by using a certain item on certain monsters. They could just reformat how summoning works for the game or bypass it entirely. Gaia the Fierce Knight could have a Black Luster Ritual used on it and turn into Black Luster Soldier. Petit Moth, when given the Cocoon of Evolution, became Perfectly Ultimate Great Moth. Mavelus and Aqua Dragon were just *there* instead of having to be fused. They've done it before, I don't see why they couldn't do it again.

[@FIRE-LOTUS]

It can still work, they just have to adapt the DOTR rules to modern cards. They could easily make a separate extra deck for those.

[@aquelgamermexicano]

While i personally feel The Tag Force series was THE PEAK of what YGO games could bring to the table and how all they needed was to keep growing that format in terms of cards and animations (easier said than done, i know), i feel the ones that try to be more than JUST THE CARD GAME end up lasting the most. Tag Force for what is worth lasted 6 games and 2 generations of YGO by adding a more anime-esque feel to the duels with the characters and animations. But ultimately, people remember the character interactions in those games, much like how Forbidden Memories was more like a Season Zero version of the card game, which i feel should have been attempted more for the sake of exploring the foundation of that version of the card game. And Falsebound Kingdom, while REALLY SLOW, the idea of an RTS YGO game is fundamentally solid. And i remember those 3 concepts and come to mind when thinking of "YGO Video Games" way more than Duel Links, master Duel or Legacy of Duelist, which are JUST the card games, and hell, i have no doubt Duel Links has been kept alive due to the anime fan service.

[@Zetact_]

It's not just that Tag Force had a ton of fun interactions with anime characters but that the NPCs being given more and more fleshing out with each game as the series progressed, to the point that they're to many people seen as fan-favorites, were brilliant. They made the world of Tag Force feel lived-in, and the personality that was shown through the random duelist's decks can't be underestimated. There were small things like Kenyou's goofy "monster swapping" strategy, or the guy with the deck of turtles, or the burn player who always used Mecha Bunny, or the character who had a deck exclusively of Tuner monsters. And that's not even getting into how later archetypes were made that would be perfect for the Tag Force characters. I think the point being that Tag Force wasn't "just" a duel simulator and it wasn't even "just" an anime-inspired RPG for the games - the cast of tier 3 duelists are a HUGE part of the game's soul, because they make it feel a lot more like it's "your" story. There are even some people to this day who are still making fanart of the tier 3 duelists, that's how good they were in the games. This is partially why I think Tag Force Special was a bit of a letdown - yeah, it makes sense that the game, being an anniversary title, would want to focus on all 5 anime series up to that point and mechanically a lot of the changes were pretty good (the animations being cut is a bit of a sidegrade, because while you don't have the animations, for the most part having voice lines over the duel is less obstructive to the gameplay - though losing the Destiny Draw animations was a downgrade) but due to the scale of Tag Force Special it meant that there was far less room for the tier 3 duelists so the game felt less like a "Tag Force" title. Tag Force 6 gave even the tier 3 duelists some unique dialogue for their story segments, Tag Force Special didn't even give Tier 2 duelists a story mode.

[@Tirgo69]

I've tried the first three a little bit... in 1 I spent 2 hours trying to court Jaden with sandwiches.. in 2 I made my partner the guy with Crystal Beasts and it was not going well, and in 3 I picked Blair and we destroyed everything with Lightsworns so hard that the game almost felt too easy. Lol

[@RandallHidalgoS21allas96]

Just a quick note but there's 7 tag force games... The last one being "special" i believe it is called. It includes Arc-V and all the series before that. It kinda has a different vibe but it still is part of the Tag Force series. Note: I just read that someone else already mentioned it.

[@eugene31able]

Honestly, the Yu-Gi-Oh game that I would dream of to be THE Yu-Gi-Oh game for us is an open-world Yu-Gi-Oh game where you can create your own character and you can play through the entire stories of each Yu-Gi-Oh arc and story from the perspective of your own character. Do stuff as talk with the main cast, duel against iconic goes, build relationships with characters such as Yugi, Jaden, Yusei, etc. and form a whole story that changes depending on your actions and such. You can say something akin to like it Yu-Gi-Oh did the route of Dragon Ball Xenoverse with your CaC entering into the main story and changing it and such. I know this would never happen, but imagine if it did? It would be one of the best Yu-Gi-Oh games ever.

[@Dave_Haro]

There was a DBZ game where you played as different characters of the series and after a sequence of battles they were telling a different story than the anime, let's say Vegeta beat Goku on their first battle and then Vegeta goes to fight frieza and that makes a whole new storyline. Imagine a ygo game where you play as Kaiba or even Rex raptor and have to deal with the issues Yugi faced on a new timeline

[@four-twenty4205]

​@@Dave_HaroWhat DBZ game was that because I am 99.9% sure that doesn't exist... I think you might have dreamt it 😂

[@Dave_Haro]

@@four-twenty4205 it was Dragon Ball Z: Supersonic Warriors 2 it was the story mode the one I was talking about

[@electricVGC]

i remember borrowing my brother's DS and being able to put card codes in and play with my real cards against the computer, definitely a mechanic i miss

[@IggiPlayz]

Yu-Gi-Oh : Yugi The Destiny was my first look at Yu-Gi-Oh as a child

[@animeegotists7527]

For me it was Tag Force and the 5Ds WC games. I love having your own stakes in the story and characters having interactions with you. It makes the game so much more personal and fun. Not to mention I love the game original characters like Toru and Misaki from WC2011. I hope we get more varied and fun Yugioh games some day.

[@Ambience31]

@@animeegotists7527 those two were by far the best yu gi oh game series

[@ShiningNoctowls]

Yugioh Capsule Monsters is one of my favorite Yugioh Video Games!

[@Danlight1911]

I would pay a good amount of money for a Yugioh VR game even if it was limited to premade decks or something.

[@CatGuy969]

Play right now? Google DMVR Official Konami-Made yugioh VR game? Google that. Releasing soon.

[@Vengix93]

Man I remember Dark Duel Stories with fond memories, I don't own the game anymore but that game and Eternal Duelist Soul were two games I dumped endless hours on after school to play. When I got a Gamecube my next YGO game was Falsebound Kingdom. It was SO different than what I expected but I loved it. Played it through for each character's story and honestly I still think it is a pretty clever game. It was like a command and conquer style game with RPG level elements. Also had exploration in it where you could find random encounters of YGO monsters to defeat and later join your team.

[@Hugelag]

I got into the games with Legacy of the Duelist and the presentation of that is extremely lacking. Static pngs, only a couple music tracks and barely any animations. To top it off, it's still got a couple bugs that'll make it crash. Worst of all, the Vrains duels have zero dialogue.

[@poptheweasel100]

Man and I JUST finished Forbidden Memories for the first time yesterday lol I've never been the biggest fan of the card game, or card games in general, but I've always had a soft spot for the anime and games, and I've been getting back into them recently. What I like about the video games is how they each feel like a snapshot of the era when it was released. From the early more experimental original series era, when the Duel Monsters rules weren't solidified and they were experimenting with different types of games beyond DM, to the gx And 5D's era, where the games became a lot more consistent and were more focused on giving a decently accurate representation of the card game with extra flair and content for the die-hard fans and single-player duelists. And thanks to how they approached these game releases, most of these games are still worth going back to, and there's plenty to enjoy for both casual and hardcore fans of the series. I'm definitely looking forward to playing more of these, especially ones like Roses and Capsule Monster Coliseum. And hopefully I'll be ready to give the anime a full watch-through when I have the time!

[@christians8821]

Duelist of the roses was peak of Yu-Gi-Oh video games as it embodies the original duel monsters from the manga specifically pre battle city

[@salihhtamer]

I played tag force and wc games a lot. We need a game with great story. I never forget when I was kid wc 2011’s last arc. Our teammate is lose and we continued the duel with previous duels cards still on the board. And we kinda get clear mind. Clear minds cards are not great but I still try to use them. Tag Force GX era is great, we literally a student in the duel academia. We duel, solve quizzes and chat with friends.

[@Roku177]

Oh, I completely understand where you're coming from, Paul! Great topic! When I think back to my childhood, I spent countless hours immersed in games like Sacred Cards, Duelist Of the Rose, False Bound Kingdom, and Capsule Duel Monsters. These games hold a special place in my heart because they offered more than just your typical TCG experience. They delved into unique mechanics and captivating storylines that truly set them apart. In my opinion, each of these games truly deserve a second look. They took gameplay to the next level by incorporating RPG elements and engaging narratives that kept us hooked. It's a shame that Konami seems to have overlooked these gems and lost just an overall sense of direction when it comes to making more innovated games. Hopefully, if we rally enough we can encourage Konami to revisit these classics and either create sequels or remakes of them. 🔥💯🤘

[@kingfirestorm4047]

Yu-Gi-Oh GX on PSP was amazing I love that game.

[@PricefieldPunk]

I put so many hours into Rasheef of Destruction and Sacred Cards even though some of the rules/ card effects made zero sense from what i remember

[@cesier123]

The sacred cards was my favorite yugioh game when I was younger, beat it so many times, so much nostalgia

[@Darkchao_berserko22]

@@cesier123 I remember that being the only yugioh game I managed to beat somehow.

[@xaviernaruto]

The things I really loved about the tag forces series were the story mode content, the albeit restricted yet serviceable map exploration, the ability to interact with the anime characters and the ability to BUILD ANY DECK without spending extra money.

[@Bunsense_Gaming]

Games like falsebound kingdom and Dungeon Dice Monsters were sooo cool to me. I love playing the game in different ways

[@TNobody0214]

Capsule monster coliseum is such a great game that could be expanded into so many ways.

[@ParthPatel-rh1ct]

We need a 3D Persona-style free roam in Domino City where the main character (Red Hat) can roam around to duel people and take part in the anime storyline with some changes. Maybe as the player progresses in level, the card pool becomes more modern to resemble Dark Side of Dimensions level.

[@theerealatm]

Main char should be more customizable. Just just a red had guy.

[@lucascesar029]

@@theerealatm no, red hat guy rules

[@JB-ij6sp]

To this day, I still pull out my PSP and play Tag Force 5. Especially if I have a long flight or train ride.

[@pedrojackson8416]

My top 3 Yu-Gi-Oh games: 1- Forbidden Memories - PS1 2- WC 2009 Stardust Accelerator - DS 3- Spirit Caller - DS

[@willysharpe1169]

Play Yu-Gi-Oh Spirit caller game was greatness

[@shamluis2125]

20:00 the 5ds worls champion games have my favorite card game mode with turbo duels and speed spells were fun to way to duel

[@faereman]

Even though I've never finished it, I think my favorite was Tag Force Evolution on the PS2. I would love for future YGO games to take the RPG approach again.

[@serginator4538]

The big problem it all really boils down to is video games aren’t made from passion anymore. There’s no way to take risks in the video game sphere because everything is about shareholders getting more and more value out of their investments so games are made to be as safe as possible to appeal to the “widest possible audience”. Because of that Masterduel will be the catch all live service style game because it prints money.

[@theghostcreator776]

You mean it's because Konami sucks

[@murddeath]

I mean, tbf, a lot of these older YGO games basically just wanted to be a duel simulator but they couldn't get just GIVE you all of the cards and it doesn't help that they're too repetitive for their own good. I'm glad the middle man is cut out but I get what you mean.

[@SventFulgur]

Duelists of the Roses is by far my favourite Yu-Gi-Oh game. I've spent hundreds, maybe thousands of hours playing it as a kid. It's the sequel to Forbidden Memories and had so many options for fun deck building. I adored the spin off games and miss them dearly

[@DraconicLeafTalarus]

Aside from another card game with an actual story, I would love to have another game like Falsebound Kingdom. Forbidden Memories, Duelist of the Roses and Falsebound Kingdom will always remain my favorite non-traditional YGO video games of the franchise.

[@ahmdyt]

a modern GX Tag Force game would be so good rn...

[@feIon]

true but i genuinely dont trust anyone at konami to make a good game at this point

[@user-lh7mt7zo7l]

@@feIon Ikr but even back then apparently they didn't hire the English voice actors so they just removed the Japanese voices making the duelists completely silent lmao. Luckily you can emulate and use a version of the game with English text and Japanese voices.

[@s_ame1135]

Forbidden Memories was my favorite YGO game of all time. Hopefully, they remaster it with the latest cards and format.

[@iatdtv4996]

Video game promo secret rare is by far my favorite rarity. The addidas DM was like a modern version but that's all we've had for years now.

[@gligarguy4010]

I'm glad you talked about Wheelie Breakers. The most underrated YGO game!

[@chouyuugoureplays3546]

idk if it uses the same compositions as the anime, but the ost for that was bomb!

[@kevinnguyen3389]

Tag Force 1 and Spirit Caller were the ones I played the most. Loved playing them!

[@Pkmnkuriboh]

I miss the spin offs, really loved the ds games and the tag force games. They followed the anime but had additional features like the ds games had the touch screen and spirit caller introduced a gimmick with duel spirits where you got benefits for including a spirit monster in your deck. Tag force has social links and the destiny draw mechanic and they were so much fun. Forbidden memories was great and duelist of the roses was great. Sacred cards and reshef of destruction were also favourites of mine, rpg elements, story was fun in both, and a different mechanic of how monsters interact, kind of like duelist kingdom. When’s the early days collection going to be released? Has Konami forgot they make video games?

[@Potatoes85858]

I really loved the Yu-gi-oh GX Duel Academy on the GBA. Put so many hours into that, I loved being a student, buying cards, building decks, meeting and interacting with the characters, later learning how to do well on exams and being able to change dorms, seeing a lot of events from the anime etc. Amazing.

[@lildevin16]

It’s because they only want games where they can do micro transactions in. If they can’t monetize it after they don’t want it Konami has done this for every game they have release

[@D34THC10CK]

Yugioh world championship 2008 was my favourite growing up. I enjoyed the fact that it had a unique campaign mode with an overworld, and allowed you to duel against your own deck recipies which provides essentially endless play time. Plus its a time capsule as the only cards available are frok yugioh GX and before

[@wilkobadberg5272]

Yugioh World Championship 2008 was peak Yugioh on DS. Even if the later Games had a much better RPG like Story Mode, the slow AI and the way less appealing Duel Screen made them way less enjoyable. The 2008 Game had a nice Campaign, you can unlock Characters from the original Series and GX and every Monster had a little 3D Model on the field. Many of them even had different Models when they are in Defense Mode. The DS Game "Nightmare Troubadure" started it... and WCS 2008 mastered it. So sad the 5Ds Games changed so much.

[@CB-L]

@@wilkobadberg5272 While I still enjoy 2008 very much, this is kinda sad that a game from that early(2008) still has a only-one kind of charm - balancing AI thought process time and demonstration(mainly about the upper screen solid vision) which none of the later games all the way to 2024 actually presented that well..

[@CommodoreCards]

What I love about those old GBA games is that they're such a time-capsule for their era. Like, I really believe that when people say they want to play "old-school" Yugioh, that specifically is the kind of Yugioh they want to play. After all, if you were a kid back then and into Yugioh, you probably couldn't duel your friends with the real cards every day. But what you could do is boot up World Championship 2004 or whatever and play that instead! And I'm sure that really influenced how a lot of people viewed the game, looking back. But yeah, I agree that it's a shame we don't get weird experimental games like Duelists of the Roses anymore. It could even stem from the lack of a modern, recognizable anime to go with them. These "games as a service" they have now are fine while they're active, and it's great to simply be able to log in and play, but when they pull the plug they're gone. I don't know if Master Duel will be around 10 years from now, but 20 years after its release I can still play World Championship and normal summon Battle Ox like the good ol' days.

[@dood3530]

That's a good point about the videogames being the real embodiment of "old-school" Yugioh. People often dismiss it as just "playground Yugioh", but that's not really accurate for a lot of us. It's not playground OR an old meta. It's just the very unique, singleplayer-oriented balance specifically seen in the videogames.

[@mysteriousweeb]

yugioh capsule monster coliseum is my favorite game

[@Shinius]

I wish there was a game like Shandalar for Yu-Gi-OH. Shandalar was a full fledged Magic TCG RPG, where you travel the entire open world, building up your deck, defeating 5 bosses before fighting the big boss. TCG RPGs are the best.

[@GregSalazar]

Duelists of the Roses was EPIC. It was so confusing at the time, but I've grown to love it for its unique mechanics. It was like a beautiful fusion of Yu-Gi-Oh and chess!

[@shanus8138]

When I bought the rush duel video game for switch to try out rush duels I was pleasantly surprised it had an overworld and its own story

[@CSRT123]

yugioh tag force 1 and capsule monsters were so good. the UI in tag force games really improved the experience dueling and capsule monsters was just a solid spin off of yugioh.

[@darryljack6612]

Demise is an understatement. It took them THIS long to make a somewhat competent dueling sim

[@CB-L]

It took nearly *11 years* till Master Duel. All came between - even it was not many of them - had serious flaws(e.g. no PvP Link Duel supported) or just happened to be useless.

[@illdoittomorrow2368]

Crashes in legacy of the duelist.

[@NewfoundRespect]

Man Yugioh capsule monsters is still in my top 5 games of all time man I love that game so f’n much. Good memories 🙌

[@Omegallednar]

If Tag force special kept the 3D models of duelists and semi-open world would have been the greatest yugioh game ever

[@ReachFiDeSky]

although it's limited in cards, Rush Duel adds a lot of the rpg elements of older games

[@CMSplash22]

Duelist of The Roses and Capsule Monster were so fun, played them so much. Sucks they moved away from them! Glad modders kinda kept DOTR going though

[@illdoittomorrow2368]

I loved the constructed cards in dark duel stories. I had a card named ruby-eyes ent relatively early. A 1900 beater with a thunder attribute. Something most opponents just didn't have an out to.

[@Revster]

The 5D’s worlds game was incredible and even up to Zexal the yugioh games were still amazing In recent history we had that Duelist Legacy which was super limited I think the old style of Yugioh games are going to be dead as long as Konami has the ability to make Yugioh games with in game currency and loot box mechanics So it’s Master Duel and Duel Links for a while, after Metal Gear Survive, the recent Metal Gear collection and the upcoming Metal Gear Delta it’s clear Konami doesn’t care

[@princeofddr]

I have so many fond memories of the Tag Force series on the PSP back in the day. Sad that they ended after the Arc V series...

[@freddyinferno2]

The sacred cards was one of my favorite games as a kid. I liked the Typal of decks and having to switch out cards based on the opponent

[@s.oddity3640]

Just got done playing 2008 YCS game on the DS (emulated because that game goes for like 60 bucks for no reason)

[@Merilirem]

So good.

[@Fujikun67]

As a kid, my parents would encourage me to cop the yugioh video games over cards sometimes; probably for longevity, and man nevertheless, I’m so glad I did. I loved all of the weird mechanics the old video games had on PS1, PS2, GameCube, Gameboy/GBA, even though it left me hella confused lol. Been collecting and trying to track down all of the old games and it’s been fun trying to find them in retro game shops and online haha!

[@ajusaguy]

I loved the yugioh ds games where rhey had 3d sprites for all the monsters

[@bloodydeath82]

my favorite yugioh games as a kid were capsule monsters, the sacred cards, dungeon dice monsters, and falsebound kingdom

[@SpookyDeadeye]

A new Yu-Gi-Oh game with a overworld would be amazing today.

[@AdamTheKaiju]

The PS1 games were fun at the time for the same reason DB GT was. We did not have a ton of games for the animes we loved, so we took what we could get AND they were fun. I wish that Yugioh would put players back in the action via a character that you make who roams the city and solves every problem with a duel.

[@IPLayedVR42Long]

Oh 100% the spin-off titles. I slept on Capsule Monster Colosseum (PS2) forever. People I knew said it was bad. It got bad reviews. But ho-ly cow was that game great! Gameplay aside... Konami spent too much money on the quality. First of the 3D era Yugioh games that updated the monster models since DOTR and FBK. The ENTIRE 4Kids cast VA'd the ENTIRE GAME! It's got a pretty large roster of monsters from the DK/BC era. Highly recommend people check it out if ya ever heard poor things about it.

[@Zachary-jt5uz]

Me ans a couple of my friends use to hold capsule colostrum tournemts cause it was a 2 player game. We all had are own teams and line ups. Was literally the full experience! I miss them days lol

[@codemonkeyslikeme]

Being able to walk around and use the egyptian god cards in Sacred Card was 💯🔥👌 This makes it comparable to the OG good pokemon games

[@DragonplayerDev]

I'm so disappointed in modern card game related games only being simulators/gacha, I started developing my own RPG card game. Not only are the big card game makers not trying anything new, even the indie scene is stagnant. It's nothing but "roguelike deck builders". All I want is a Sacred Cards style game with modern graphics, but apparently no one is willing to take that "risk"

[@danvzare6201]

Cool! What's it going to be called? I'll have to look it up someday. On a side note, I've always wondered why Games Workshop has never made a 40k game like the old YuGiOh games. Imagine being able to challenge anyone to a 40k battle, while simultaneously playing an RPG in a town that's obsessed with the boardgame for some reason.

[@djalmamarongio5581]

by seeing the manga, and how it all started, i feel it all was a passion from the creator kazuki takahashi, he loved to create all sorts of games, and thats why, in the dark side of dimensions movie, he stated that yugi was going to become a game designer, because thats what he loved. he also created an instagram account to present all sorts of games "yugi" was creating. with the debut of cross duel, i felt that, finally he was doing another shot that we all love, like dungeon dice or capsule monsters. but with his death, sadly, i belive that cross duel was the last one to see the daylight, it think bandai prefer to stay on a safe lane, rather than to experiment. and i belive that, the source of the ideas, is gone now. something that will make it even difficult for that to happen.

[@TastySnackies]

Konami loves not taking advantage of their IPs

[@FIRE-LOTUS]

They own the IP for Bloody Roar, a very underrated fighting game. And for a couple decades haven't done jack shit with it. Konami is beyond disappointing when it comes to games. They only focus on the IPs for gambling products, which doesn't do anything for people like us. It's stupid.

[@LixFilipe]

My first PSP game was yugioh gx tag force, and I really miss the ability to explore on my own and sort of like make my "own story", being able to miss class and discover easter eggs, duel people when I want but also following a storyline

[@TheMetallingOne]

we need battle city as a mmorpg; let us create a character, choose some staple cards from a selected pool , give us some initial packs and let us roam the map battling our way to the top and upgrading our decks along our journey.

[@gauze4326]

bro im so glad u shouted out Sacred Cards and Reshef of Destruction, got those as a kid for Christmas gifts they were the GOATs in 2004&2005, Yugioh then was unparalleled and highly enjoyable. The puzzle of structuring decks to beat certain bosses before online tutorials were available on Reshef (Sacred Cards had much easier gameplay which was good bc I didn’t know how to play when I first got it) was great also.

[@bobowon5450]

yu gi oh legacy of the duelist link evolution was my favorite game. I was so sad when master duel came out because its aggressively not casual friendly, and costs way too much to get a playable deck.

[@GrugGangGrugGang]

Honestly, just slapping Link Evolution's single player onto Master Duel with a way to somewhat reasonably earn packs purely from singleplayer would solve my problems.

[@RashFaustinho]

I never understood how people could like Legacy of the Duelist. I always found that game to be unnecessarely slow

[@bobowon5450]

@RashFaustinho it's not the fastest game in the universe but it's fine. It has a large card pool, full campaign mode, doesn't milk you for every dollar it can.

[@danvzare6201]

A bit off-topic, but is that Uzume in your avatar?

[@bobowon5450]

@@danvzare6201 it is

[@KairuinKorea]

As the creator of the most popular Duelists of the Roses tabletop simulator Mod / Remake, I'm super happy to see it mentioned here haha. Nice video man.

[@Reluxthelegend]

0:10 I was like "isn't that like every video in this channel" until I noticed this is on the main channel and not on APS Amplifier lol

[@bytorgaming3796]

man, I spent my childhood playing The Sacred Cards on my GBA. So fun. And then I proceeded to Duel Transer on the switch which was amazing too. LOTD is pretty good. I like the games where you can spend duel points to buy packs with no in game purchases and a story. Great video!

[@aaronroberts1901]

I love the spin offs. Falsebound kingdom and Capsule monsters are my childhood

[@dexploud]

Definitely need a story mode type game like you’re saying. Essentially a 1:1 of Pokémon’s style would be insanely cool.

[@tBOGGgle]

2:41 Master Duel is like a tabletop game simulator IMO. Not much of a story like you said and really just facilitates faster gameplay than if you were to sit down and play with some IRL

[@androiduser3895]

In my absence of playing the physical game I ALWAYS played ygo games what I've always wanted was a RPG where you explore the Yu-Gi-Oh world where you "battle" the Monarchs. For example go through and each area has a specific Monarch so you enter the Different Dimension and duel Caius using a macro cosmos D.D. Deck and he can like use his effect once per turn or something. I also figured Frognarchs with Mobius as the boss and earth stun deck with Granmarg and then further in the game you'd see the newer forms and monarchs. Or a game where you recreate the story for the generaiders and runick

[@completetechheads]

The only Yu-Gi-Oh "game" I ever had was a Gameboy Advance Video cartridge that had 2 episodes on it, these days those are both of my fave episodes haha

[@dylandavis2737]

I'd love a yugioh RPG where you do quests for cards and the battle mechanic is dueling but you also collect things and follow a story and maybe even skill trees or something that make it easier to draw certain cards or let you do various things

[@EdwinnMorataya]

You made a very great point at 3:16 in the video! When you mentioned how yugioh was adventurous this made me think that Yugioh should made an adventure game. Somewhat like playing online multiplayer but have the ability to join tournament in different regions around the country(Yugioh game) shop for packs, meet and talk to other players online and to be able to 1v1 players, have different game modes like draw random cards, have field spell conditions or card attributes. I guess what i’m trying to say here is it’s about time they make open world game!!

[@FireIronArm]

Your yugioh knowledge of years off the top of your head is awesome. Duelist of the roses, tag force and reshef of destruction were the ones I had. Open world yugioh games seem to hit differently compared to service games. Opening the packs and dueling random story duelists to improve your deck is what made spin off games fun for me.

[@valormyth]

Man, I'm surprised to see the Yu-Gi-Oh capsule monster coliseum game unmentioned. Duelist of Roses and Capsule monster coliseum were my two favorite childhood games.

[@TeamAPS]

I actually didn't get to play that one so it wasn't top of mind! Alex and Alec did though and they loved it.

[@mikehetzler1431]

you kinda referenced it, but worldwide edition-stairway to the destined duel was cool. i do agree putting numbers in for actual cards was a gr8 way to collect cards and improve decks. maybe konami can update that kind of game to include todays cards and/or formats i.e. synchro, xyz, pendulum, link.

[@Foxwarrior88]

This is why I honestly am psyched for that Early Days Collection. I don’t play YGO anymore, but when I did, I always loved playing games like Dark Duel Stories because I got to use cards I could never afford and even take on iconic characters from the anime.

[@benjaminbaygul-stevens4262]

You were a pleasure to watch and listen to in this video. You have such great delivery & patter. Really enjoyed hearing your thouguts. More like this please 🙏🏻

[@PattyCakeDeluxe]

Duelist of the Roses was peak YugiOh video game imo. I want a remake or sequal to all the weird games, Forbidden Memories, Falsebound Kingdom, Duelist of The Roses, and Capsule Monster Colluseum. They would be sooooo good

[@trulysavage9979]

Another cool game that is pretty underplayed is capsule monsters colosseum. That game has some really good art, music, and voice acting. You can really feel the passion and creativity in these older games. Duelists of the roses is my favorite.

[@saadqht6482]

We need more games like: Duelists of the roses and capsule monsters.

[@Reluxthelegend]

Now that we don't have an anime for master rules. I would love to have another game in the vein of WCS2009-2011 but with a wholly original plot. Let us be the protagonist of our own anime basically.