When they started the whole “You’re not the flash, we’re the flash” bit is when I think it plummeted in quality.
@pheas26 күн бұрын
it was awful since the start
@josephnoble190926 күн бұрын
@ nah
@pheas26 күн бұрын
@ yea, cry
@josephnoble190926 күн бұрын
@@pheas bro you just going around peoples comments trying to start shit lol, get a life.
@josephnoble190926 күн бұрын
@ bro you’re the one just going around in peoples comments trying to start shit lol, get a life.
@VeeUKАй бұрын
The sad thing is how good grant gustin was and the only reason why the show even still had viewers
@MythowarsАй бұрын
I’m still peeved he didn’t even get considered for a cameo for the flash movie, and we instead got old ass Superman and Batman cameos
@RaymondCrittendenАй бұрын
@@MythowarsI'm not mad Grant Gustin didn't get a cameo, I'm mad that so many of the cameos were dead people that they CGI'd back to life instead of only using actors who are still alive.
@-Kaeya9827Ай бұрын
@@RaymondCrittenden I'm sorry. THEY HAD CGI ACTORS!!!!!!
@RaymondCrittendenАй бұрын
@@-Kaeya9827 ?
@-Kaeya9827Ай бұрын
@@RaymondCrittenden were certain actors actually edited into the movie and not real
@RobytEditsАй бұрын
Main downfall is probably after S4. But it's watchable until S6E09 (Crisis)
@mac1lambo2Ай бұрын
season 5 was not that bad, but girl Cicada was terrible
@SilineBaccaАй бұрын
@@mac1lambo2fun fact my cousin played her as a kid aka grace for season 5
@mac1lambo2Ай бұрын
@@SilineBacca sure...
@SilineBaccaАй бұрын
@@mac1lambo2 you don’t gotta believe me if you don’t want to but it’s true
@returntothecloudsАй бұрын
@@SilineBacca whats your name and you cousins name then
@DudzyskyАй бұрын
1:01:15 bro had to stand up and understand what she said 💀
@DudzyskyАй бұрын
Wow u look like a jow
@LordBovynАй бұрын
😂😂😂
@ChiBaby25Ай бұрын
He just thinking, “the AUDACITY!!”😂
@happyninja_22Ай бұрын
Season 1=peak Season 2=peak Season 3 peakish Season 4 = ok I see signs Season 5 = elements of being good Pre crisis season 6=little step up Post crisis season 6=boo Season 7=boooooooo Season 8= WTF WAS THIS SH!T Season 9=DISRESPECTFALL TO EVERYTHING IT WAS BEFORE. But episode 10 was peak not going to lie imo
@moonflower595Ай бұрын
Yeah I think this captures the general feel for most people.
@Charles-ml5sxАй бұрын
Fax Edit: episode 10 was GAS
@morris01Ай бұрын
Episode 9 of season 9 was also peak
@Ny7wАй бұрын
lol season 8 was good wdym
@codelyokofan1092Ай бұрын
Armageddon was ok though, relatively speaking considering the overall state after flash season 7.
@JoshuaR9763Ай бұрын
32:47 that "FUCK" was so perfect it was right on the end of that bit haha
@thelukeofficial9626Ай бұрын
32:10 32:32
@ethanpinch7717Ай бұрын
At 1:01:45 like that argument scene between Barry and iris GRANTS ACTING IN THAT SCENE FUCKIN UNREAL
@turkistan597Ай бұрын
"I'm your daughter, from the future" at that point, everything went downhill...
@NoahheisellАй бұрын
Crazy how thats the Line that was the Down Fall of the flash, Down Fall of arrow AND Down Fall of lucifer
@bandzinyojawАй бұрын
nah season 3 is the start of the downfall everything before it was peak
@JuniorBomboclatАй бұрын
@@Noahheisellwhat downfall of lucifer bro the show is fire
@tottenham2294Ай бұрын
No turkistsn597 WE are the flash
@Sp1neEditsАй бұрын
@@Noahheisell wtf you spoiling for bro? Delete this
@PxseidxnnАй бұрын
The flash started slowly declining after season 3, but if were talking abut "The downfall" it was after crisis, after that the show nose dove
@stephcinemaАй бұрын
Completely agree
@wyattlundrigan4740Ай бұрын
It never “declined,” because it was terrible from the start.
@RangeCMYKАй бұрын
@@wyattlundrigan4740 Wrong. In the start it was mid, then it became bad, then it became abysmal. Bad to worse is still a decline.
@fishtankfunnyАй бұрын
semi agree but regardless i did like the devoe/thinker season minus the body swapping.
@Azure_2023 күн бұрын
@@wyattlundrigan4740 no, it wasn't. you're literally just a hater
@RaeOwens-m4jАй бұрын
I’m so happy to see you reacting to one of my favorite KZbinrs this is my ideal crossover right here
@shayaanbaig248Ай бұрын
1:20:30 I cheered when he mentioned Dark. You HAVE to watch it, it's so good! Edit: The good place as well, I loved that show
@ruby-yz1zfАй бұрын
The downfall started like the second half of season 6 onwards
@elviswilliams1131Ай бұрын
Nope it started from season 4
@bandzinyojawАй бұрын
@@GomYTPreally season 3
@elviswilliams1131Ай бұрын
@@GomYTPYou can't tell me season 4 was competently written
@APhantomEX-3Ай бұрын
This is a fine take, anyone saying S3 or 4 is just wrong
@cringestealerАй бұрын
Season 4 is where it started, season 5 is definitely a shitshow. Only the scenes where they time travel are cool
@mac1lambo2Ай бұрын
Harrison Wells (Earth-1)/Reverse-Flash Season 2: Harry Wells (Earth-2) Season 3: H.R. Wells (Earth-19) Season 4: Wells from Earth-2 Season 5: Sherloque Wells (Earth-221) Season 6: Nash Wells (Earth-19) Season 7: No new Wells versions, but past Wells return for various episodes.
@Sp1neEditsАй бұрын
Harry wells appearance is NOT brief in S4 bro
@Mr.KazangasАй бұрын
Nash is also not from earth 2
@MonsieurDDMonsterrАй бұрын
S4 & some of 5 (that's as far as I've watched) does have the council of Wells which make a brief appearance
@johnnybattiato2463Ай бұрын
21:35 boy ain’t slick with that replay😭
@drifter52Ай бұрын
Just saw that😭😂
@not_so_average_joe7559Ай бұрын
should have paid more attention. it wasnt because of the cake, its because the narrator misspoke
@Sp1neEditsАй бұрын
He took out a part of the video so now it doesn't match up anymore lmao, I saw it yesterday when it was posted tho 😭
@BrooklynStarFTLKАй бұрын
100% after season 4
@prometheus3951Ай бұрын
season 4 is trash aswell
@Ny7wАй бұрын
@prometheus3951definitely not
@GotchaBoiАй бұрын
@prometheus3951 dead opinion
@prometheus3951Ай бұрын
@GotchaBoi nope
@MythowarsАй бұрын
@GotchaBoidid you like the main character of the show being forced into stupidity by the writers so that their “smart” villain can have a full 24 episode season to try and show he’s a threat
@TurgoLBX2510Ай бұрын
Don we still need Flash is Inconsistent 2, 3, and 4, even though 4 may need to be a 2 parter as it’s 3 hours. Also, I stand by that Hartley's firing was absolute BULLSHIT and shows the hypocrisy of this show and its crew. His character's whole story was showing that while people can make mistakes and bad choices in the past, they can grow beyond who they were then. Hartley was fired because of tweets he made a few years before he'd entered the show, racist tweets at that, but still, long before he entered the show. Throughout his time, not only did his character grow, but he as a person showed himself to as well. However, when those posts came out, even though Candice, Iris' actress, did basically the same thing, he was fired because they didn't want to work with him anymore, and ever since then, he's been radio silent. Hasn't posted, never gotten another role. I swear, if he was blacklisted in the industry for TWEETS, I'm gonna lose my mind. Ralph was the best character on the show during his 3 seasons. I rewatched the video and THIS GUY COMPLETELY MISUNDERSTANDS SAVITAR. He doesn't wanna be the fastest, I don't think the really gives a crap about that. The guy wants to live, to exist. Every action he took was to make sure everything would play out for him to survive. Now he was incredibly stupid in telling Frost to do shit that he could've done easily, IE Killing Tracy and getting Iris after HR broke her out, but he's still one of the only villains with a genuine motivation. Blood Work also has one with... well also wanting to live. Godspeed is just an even less interesting Zoom, Cobalt Blue COULD have worked, but he only had half an episode. Cicada 1, he wanted to take out the people who hurt and destroyed his family. That also makes sense... to a degree. He says Thane is the only one with a genuine motive, but that's not really true.
@elviswilliams1131Ай бұрын
Facts everyone in this comment section saying season's 1-4 are actually good have to be smoking something
@JamesP7Ай бұрын
@@elviswilliams1131Seasons 1-4 are actually good tho. 3 and 4 more questionably but there are still things to like at least, unlike the seasons afterward.
@Ny7wАй бұрын
@@JamesP7lul season 3 is amazing that is not questionable and season 4 is great and 5 is good so as the first half of season 6
@ZayneZaladonis-i7iАй бұрын
SEASON 3 IS MY FAVORITE SEASON BECAUSE SAVITAR IS MY FAVORITE VILLAIN WHAT!?
@sea-of-skies_Ай бұрын
What racist comments did Candice have?
@dragonblade1865Ай бұрын
44:10 he lost his father in end of Season that’s why he’s goes to The past to save his mom to bring in back his parents
@pre699Ай бұрын
i personally feel that if you watch the flash for purely entertainment then its not that bad past season 4/6, but once you watch it with logic or objectively then you'll just dislike it in its entirety
@rajivnailadi905Ай бұрын
I'm one of those who just watched it for entertainment not to see a masterpiece, I'd say for me: S1 - S2: Amazing S3 - S4: Not as good but still great entertainment S5: Getting worse but still entertaining enough to keep watching S6 Bloodwork: Similar to S5, maybe a bit better S6 Mirror: Started out promising, ended bad S7 - S9: What in the power rangers Tbh I feel like S7-9 are just bad on every level, I've seen most of 7 and clips from 8/9 and they're not even fun to watch along like S3-6 were. There needs to be SOME level of seriousness in a show to be entertaining and I felt 7-9 just went off the rails with the campy-ness.
@Ny7wАй бұрын
@@rajivnailadi905saying season 3 to 4 is worse is crazy it’s literally amazing just at the previous seasons
@Ny7wАй бұрын
@@rajivnailadi905season 8 was actually good
@youngfrank8402Ай бұрын
Reasons why: 1) "Your not the flash barry, we are" 2) "I aM vEnGeAncE" 3) The flash Lighning shield 4) The flash Duel of the Fates 5) No more Ralph Dibny/ Elongated Man 6) Savitar Had one Job 7) Barry flopped with Patty
@andrewp.stewart4585Ай бұрын
You know damn well why we have no more Ralph Dibny. Stop it.
@astrocopjr817 күн бұрын
@@andrewp.stewart4585cus the showrunners don’t listen to their own lessons
@kiandennislambujon3617 күн бұрын
Is it because of the things he said that is probably a decade.
@andrewp.stewart458517 күн бұрын
@@kiandennislambujon36 Yeah, because Skai Jackson exposed his ass
@kiandennislambujon3617 күн бұрын
@@andrewp.stewart4585 it's been a decade.
@MarkimusgamingАй бұрын
9:00 rest in peace Benny! 😢 what a creator he was!
@reubengames_Ай бұрын
Don't forget there's still 2 crossovers: Crisis on Infinite Earths and Armageddon
@morris01Ай бұрын
Armageddon was lowkey the worst one ngl
@osirex5495Ай бұрын
The thing about Nora acting like a child is so true. Didnt help that I saw Black Sails before her appearance on The Flash
@Xehanort1011 күн бұрын
The actress is also older than Grant Gustin and Candice Patton. So the CW hired someone older than them to play the daughter of their characters. And even though Nora was supposed to be in her 20's they had her act like a little girl.
@alphawrestlingfan6689Ай бұрын
Bro is watching everything but the flash But I can't blame him after s6 shit is rough
@Yokai_NuАй бұрын
I’ve been saying this and they still say "J-JuSt FinIsh The SerIes"
@stargazerequiemАй бұрын
53:25 😧 that caught me off guard
@marcuszurheide2626Ай бұрын
Been scrolling looking for this comment😂
@xan.k5Ай бұрын
10:52 someone on another video said that obviously since he’s a speedster, it’s almost like they’re a god and can do whatever they want with no struggle compared to someone who is a speedster. so i feel like the downfall was making non-speedsters the main villain, but then again whenever they would do it again, like godspeed, they didn’t do a great job. season 1 is the best season of the entire show and is a masterpiece in my opinion. this reminds me of legends of tomorrow in season 2 when thawne was the villain, *spoilers*, thawne could have un-erased himself from existence like nothing, but obviously since it’s a show, producer’s would have him “struggle” a bit against the legends. he literally made an army of time remnants and instead of going directly for the spear of destiny, i guess you could say he toyed with them for a minute and got to it too late causing him to die by black flash after. 9x10 of the flash was the last good episode of the flash because it completed the cycle from season 1. i highly recommend watching the video “march 18th, 2000” on youtube. someone edited the entire night perfect and will have you emotional.
@michealrosenАй бұрын
Season 7 was the worst with a close season 9 where ceicle becomes the strongest meta, she can fly, read minds, throw her hands in the air causing 50 god speeds to fall over.
@junit318Ай бұрын
AND IT’S NEVER EXPLAINED 😭
@Thebestleaderinfiction23 күн бұрын
Barry is much stronger than Cecile actually but okay lol
@michealrosen22 күн бұрын
@@Thebestleaderinfiction in seasons 1 to 8 yes but not in season 9, she could beat Barry by throwing her hands in the air, mind controling him, flying in the air throwing mind waves, she literally is Dr strange merged with Wanda all in one.
@Thebestleaderinfiction22 күн бұрын
@ Barry has already defeated xotar who has telekinesis and telepathy as well just like Cecile so Barry could most likely beat Cecile the way he beat xotar in season 8 episode 2 and Cecile is not dr strange or scarlet witch she’s nothing like them she doesn’t have magic or reality warping powers like they do so don’t compare her to those sorcerers she’s nothing in front of them lmao. Also Barry in season 9 literally defeated the negative speed force and was able to separate it from Joe’s body with his powers and Barry defeated the negative still force, strength force and the sage force in season 8 while in a weakened state and Cecile doesn’t stand a chance against the forces Barry is much stronger than Cecile
@Thebestleaderinfiction22 күн бұрын
@ You’re forgetting that Barry can avoid mind control with his speed thinking
@SWAHswah-tm7snАй бұрын
You mentioned wanting to read some comics, I'll warn you it can be hard jumping in some times. For a first story I recommend the flash #800 'don't come to central city' which is about wally west or the 'Return Of Barry Allen' which is Barry's 'resurrection' having died years prior. Batman is easy, the 'Long Halloween'. Superman should always be 'All star Superman' which also has a movie and the same with 'What's so funny about truth justice and the American way' which is renamed with the movie 'Superman vs the elite.' From there I'd search up online and see what you like, dunno about places to read them online though.
@rocothebernesemountaindog4919Ай бұрын
the guy in the video ur watching is just a hatr seasons 1 2 3 4 and five were all pretty good and i agree thta the other ons were bad but they were still watchable
@Schtooka1567Ай бұрын
You Don has become a fan like us when his voice gets higher and higher when talking about points 😂 keep up the work brother killing it ❤
@thatonkgau5221Ай бұрын
39:00 Exactly Barry has been doing this for what 5 years but he's still in rookie mode. He still needs a Harrison wells and a team Flash to help him figure out how to be a superhero. He still needs a sappy motivational speech to take down the villain in every single fight. The whole point of team Flash in the beginning was to help mentor Barry into becoming the flash. At some point Barry shouldve outgrown team Flash and become his own superhero. The show would've gotten so much better if they had Barry outgrow team Flash. Say after H.R Wells death the team separated and Barry mostly works solo with the exception of Joe, Iris and Dr McGee. Barry creates the A.I Gideon to fill in Cisco's role after he moved to hub city and Dr Cristina McGee is now his resident medic after Caitlyn left.
@WatchYeegoАй бұрын
30:00 post-flashpoint Caitlin has powers because Barry changed the timeline, but it still makes sense to add another person the story, Caitlin's father...
@iAmPimmiCue29 күн бұрын
Season 4 I think was what did it for me. The one with The tinkerer or Thinker? I forgot his name. There's an episode where Barry tracks down a women in a museum I think, and she uses her puppet magic or something to knock Barry down and she jogs out the building, and Barry says "She got away"... like he can't crawl on the ground and catch up to her
@JamesP7Ай бұрын
This is the best coverage of The Flash and it’s downfall I’ve watched, so I’m glad you’re checking it out! Many other great videos are out there as well, like hour-long videos critiquing each season and even an 8 hour video (or maybe it was two videos of 4 hours each?).
@thepenmasterАй бұрын
Banshee is FREAKING PHENOMENAL, please Don put it on your list. My requests are getting longer but I'll throw all the other ones away for this 😅😅😅
@reidt182Ай бұрын
one of the real main downfalls probably came with Eric Wallace - writer for some of the episodes since season 4 and the showrunner since season 6
@KudaroDoesYtАй бұрын
lol, was just watching this video, so glad you decided to as well.
@brandong193Ай бұрын
When me and friends tried catching up on the flash we started calling it Cecile and Friends😂
@maliksandiford8594Ай бұрын
Is that Logan with a fat filter on your pfp
@gentlesavage2068Ай бұрын
don it would be cool to see you do arrow reactions again, especially for season 5, it is one of the best seasons of arrow, right up there with season 1 and 2 and the first half of season 7 is good too.
@thepenmasterАй бұрын
Honestly, I welcome judgment on this because I love every single season of Arrow from one to the last. So if there is hope he continues it, I'll be waiting too
@Charles-ml5sxАй бұрын
Oliver in prison was peak
@jasonpatterson1433Ай бұрын
Don bro I think if your not gunna post more watches you should at least watch more to your self the finale of the arrow verse with crisis on infinite Earth is really good
@jasonpatterson1433Ай бұрын
Iris is one the worst nothing against the actress it's prob just the writing
@popmarcelliАй бұрын
‘Comics Explained’ is a great channel Rob is really passionate about comics and can genuinely explain the characters and the events in a long story short kind of way. He really gets to the point while also explaining everything that happened in 15 min vids he has done the ENTIRE history of the flash comics - the show is based of the new flash comic’s origins while Jay is from the original Flash comics in the 50s or 60s- Rob has whatever video u need to learn ab The Flash AND his Villains
@DudzyskyАй бұрын
55:21 YESSSSSSSSS
@Helloimahuman21Ай бұрын
THANK YOU
@blevАй бұрын
I’ll tell you now. Smallville which I saw almost every episode live, still have recordings on VHS, that boy Tom started it all. And Superman and Lois is probably the best thing dc put on tv in awhile.
@xarppraxАй бұрын
55:42 me when I look at Danielle panabaker
@danielormerod1683Ай бұрын
Danielle Panibaker does play 2 characters, but she wouldn't get paid for both. If she was only 1 character her wage wouldn't change
@mohammedjammeh9598Ай бұрын
In my opinion, THE FLASH was incredible from Season 1 to S6A. Eric Wallace did great with Season 6A with the whole Bloodwork/Crisis storyline for me. After that, the show just got terrible. A few good episodes here and there like the Armageddon storyline was fun but the series overall wasn't good once Eric Wallace was the showrunner.
@rossohare4950Ай бұрын
19:18 He was fired for disgusting tweets and Grant Gustin was very upset.
@rossohare4950Ай бұрын
The Barry topic is a bit biased I'm not gonna lie.
@HeroesfullyaliveАй бұрын
Poor Cisco... They had a storyline where he wants to step back from the action and front lines, so he takes the cure for metahumans and permanently removes them.... only to replicate those same powers with gadgets to go out into the field with and fight crime.... Why take the powers in the first place??
@kiandennislambujon36Ай бұрын
Cisco removing his powers is like erasing a part of himself.
@fishtankfunnyАй бұрын
the only thing good about this show post s4 was the episode where we finally see Barry and Thawne go back to that night. Grant and his performance carried this entire show.
@MizzhoneyyyАй бұрын
The Savitar season is still one of my faves! ❤
@ReaznoАй бұрын
You got to watch the @Madvocate 2,3,4 of the flash being inconsistent. 😂😅
@ChroniclerOnline22 күн бұрын
In fact, now that the show is over, a group of Spanish-speaking fans managed to put together a timeline with all the time travels of the series, making sense of something that didn't even make sense.
@blevАй бұрын
Flash seasons 1 to 4 are fucking peak. And that one episode with his parents in season 9 is probably the best of the I Am Cecille version of the show
@susnatamaiti1971Ай бұрын
In my opinion, Mid Season 5, it gets pretty bad. Till Season 8. But Season 9 was a step up from all of all of these in between Seaosns. For me, the best season was Season 3, followed by Season 2, Season 4 and Season 1.
@newbykid12313 күн бұрын
20:22 man turned in to chewbaka
@SmokinDroFrayserАй бұрын
We told you it falls off around season 6-7
@KOBAYE_24Ай бұрын
IMO, it folds after season 1. It was never that good, and yet I watched through 7 seasons. As a flash fan, it hurts. I was young when it aired for the 1st time and loved it. I probably watched the 4th seasons at least 4 times over the years, but I gave it a try very recently, and it's... notgood
@elviswilliams1131Ай бұрын
Nah it fell off at season3-4
@michealrosenАй бұрын
@@KOBAYE_24 you should have gone all the way to season 9 where ceicle gets her own side episodes, she can fly, mind control, throw her hands in the air forcing villains including speedesters in the air, she's in season 9 more than the flash is, and there's evil Batwoman who's line a power ranger villain
@KOBAYE_24Ай бұрын
@michealrosen Lmao, naaah, I'm good. I didn't watch the episodes, but I still checked what was happening, and I saw how they BUTCHERED Red Death. I'm scared that this show has destroy The Flash reputation as a hero and for a lot of characters too beyond repair
@notoriouspookАй бұрын
the hell what people say freaking love them all the flash, arrow, supergirl, black lighting, crises on infinite earths, legends of tomorrow
@davidd7508Ай бұрын
For me after Cicada I started to fall asleep. There were a few episodes that were good after season 5 but when it only concentrated on the story.
@asiamartins2925Ай бұрын
The video is like a court case, don just best trying to debunk the videos argument 😂
@lukastace3154Ай бұрын
probably because a lot of them felt forced imo, the dude kept making arguments for why s3 was terrible but never actually provided any...? i get don's perspective
@kidquandagxddАй бұрын
23:14 yea I get where he’s coming from like deaths in this show don’t matter either like when Barry’s dad left when he got out of prison and then came back just to die to then come back as the actual jay garrick makes no sense
@JoJoBaB.yАй бұрын
IDGAF what anyone says, I love the flash and I enjoyed it. I really love season 5 also I genuinely wish if you’d still upload The Flash for the few of us that really wanna see you react to it.
@kailorc6167Ай бұрын
Season 1 through 6 before crisis was the greatest show ever
Ай бұрын
This is why I ignore fandoms and just enjoy stuff (or not) on my own terms. I don't think I have ever vibed with the prevailing opinions of hardcore fans on any show, game, movie, etc.
@ypoanokaАй бұрын
ong s5 is one of the best and the rest of s3 and s4 are also great
@xthentic740Ай бұрын
watch Madvocate's video on the flash and you will see how badly represented his powers, plus blatant plot holes.
@erichauser2017Ай бұрын
You should watch invincible!!! Such a good animated show 💯💯💯
@SoulosipherАй бұрын
These things he's bringing up like the flash not being the main character etc only "truly" sets in at around Season 6 i would say. Season 5 is great don't worry, you won't be dissapointed. I've been rewatching the Flash for like the past 5 years and I've always cycled through 1-5, 6 is when it gets bad.
@Sp1neEditsАй бұрын
SAME BRO everytime I start rewatching I tell myself that I'll finish it but nope I quit around that area cause I get bored af. Then I end up maybe watching like 1 episode per month? Lol.
@SoulosipherАй бұрын
@@Sp1neEdits Haha you sound exactly like me lmao this is what i been doin
@themagnificentorange672Ай бұрын
Real af, the video is way too critical with earlier seasons lol
@MrDarkknight201129 күн бұрын
I watched all of the seasons mostly for the fan fare with the cross-over episodes and the characters as a whole. But honestly, the first three seasons were literally repeats of having an Evil speedster with the same agenda and story-line, like can't you be more creative and adapt to change.. Stop setting up the same evil villains to their tropes and bad ways. It was literally every evil speedster in the entirety of the Flash. Reverse-Flash, Zoom, Savitar, God Speed, Cobalt, and it was like.. STOP already, we get it..
@raidengoodman8754Ай бұрын
downfall imo was season 4. i remember them saying before the season premiered that they were gonna try to lighten the vibe up from the dark seasons of 2 and 3 and that was evident from the start, but not in a good way. it was mostly dumbing down characters for slapstick comedy. then there's making characters like iris, cecile, and even cisco annoying. not to mention the whole *stopping to talk to the bad guy and gets beat up* "omg guys i can't defeat him guys what do i do?' "run barry run" *completely stomps the bad guy out by doing something he could've done in the first encounter* trope was way too old by that point. much like the fandom agrees with, the show ended when barry walked into the speedforce at the end of season 3. i mean think about it he had an arc! season 1 he battled an evil speedster from his past that killed his mom (thawne). season 2 was an evil speedster from his present that killed his dad (zoom). season 3 not only did he create flashpoint, but the villain speedster was from his future WHO WAS ALSO himself (savitar)that was going to kill his wife to-be. it was complete
@TherealdudemanАй бұрын
Season 9 episode 10 was peak flash too. Felt like season 1 again
@doubleabattery884Ай бұрын
You definitely need to watch supernatural too
@Bem101-vc8kmАй бұрын
Basic version is writers got lazy refused to evolve barry made sure to keep adding characters to the cast to add more drama to the show and the final reason the flash wasn't about the flash anymore the latter seasons lacked actual effort and had non barry focused episodes an actual semblance of an overarching story is usually present in the premier and finale and the rest of the season is basically villains of the week
@uzirmohammed6459Ай бұрын
your not the flash barry we are. that was when i threw my phone at iris
@elviswilliams1131Ай бұрын
It's your not the flash we are
@APhantomEX-3Ай бұрын
Also by S7-9 Iris is part of team flash but she doesn’t have the job she did in S4. She’s a reporter. Ntm a few other characters this guy mentioned either don’t have as big of a role he’s making it seem like they have or they just don’t have the role you think they do
Ай бұрын
I'm not a teenager, but I absolutely watch shows like these because of hot people. This guy sure has my number.😅
@burgerkingexpress784724 күн бұрын
1:27:41 sounds more like devolving if you can’t pay attention to a 15 episode season
@rhyspayne-o1cАй бұрын
I personally never saw a downfall I loved the whole 9 seasons
@willjones9098Ай бұрын
Supernatural is one of the best shows ever made
@BlitsssssssАй бұрын
Season 1 = 10 Season 2 = 10 Season 3 = 9 Season 4 = 7 Season 5 = 5 Season 6 = 2 Haven’t watched the rest
@calebperez6071Ай бұрын
For me honestly, yeah maybe flash had quite a down fall around seasons 7-9 but me personally i kept watching it only because of the flash and the actors performance as the flash was always EXCELLENT. i also loved the last flash suit. .....i watched the entire show like almost 10 times...
@tectonio6175Ай бұрын
NAHHHHH How to Get Away with Murder???? He some seriously high standards to say he thinks it started sucking. I'm convinced that either this guy doesn't actually pay attention to what he watches or just looks to complain, because it had me on the edge of seat for almost every episode and gave me the AOT feel of more mystery than answers
@illusionlbАй бұрын
it started sucking after season 3
@EsihleMadiАй бұрын
Still waiting for the second Madvocate reaction
@ItsArcticVisionАй бұрын
On the whole point of Barry never getting out of his learning phase, seasons 8 and 9 to me makes Barry more independent of the team, and tbh by then Barry and iris were the only two characters I cared about. I’m not sure why but the acting from grant and Candice vs everyone else on the show felt like day vs night.
@lkfacility471828 күн бұрын
1:02:28 we are talking about Barry and Iris being siblings. Now I’ve not read the comics but from my understanding when talking to flash fans who had read them, they are combining 2 different versions of the Flash into one character. Barry Allen the scientist, and Wally West the Prodigy. Wally I believe is related to Iris in someway like siblings or nephew or something of that sort. While Barry Allen married the character Iris. So when making the show Barry was kinda a combination of the comic Barry and the Comic Wally West. That is why Iris sucked as a love interest for Barry. Because it’s awkward and Weird since there is no real angle at the Flash, they force the love into something kinda repulsive. And quite frankly, I disagree, I didn’t like the actress for Iris neither. In Season 1 I believe the shows writing did not disappoint when it came to Barry and Iris, even if the characters was a mess. But Iris didn’t really seem like she had any sort of emotion of love toward Barry. Unlike Patty in season 2, Felicity early on, and Caitlyn in the early parts of the show.
@abdulrahmanfahmy3282Ай бұрын
Don I know everyone is saying it's bad and I'm not saying it's not bad but we still want you to watch it or at least some of us although most of it is bad there is still some stuff that are good which we want you to see and from this video I can see that you might also find some of it good as well cause they say season 3 was trash but I think it's an amazing season and you as well don't understand why they are hating on it so much so maybe watching the rest of the show is not bad think about the people who want you to watch it we watch your videos because you have so much energy and your reactions to certain scenes are amazing that's why we watch you and there are some scenes in the flash we love that would love to see your reactions to them so please I know everything doesn't point towards watching it but maybe you will have a change of heart Okay now DC aside I would love for you to watch 1)the vampire diaries 2)the originals 3)legacies 4)teen wolf 5)rest of Loki series In that order please and thank you
@Tray_VerseАй бұрын
14:41 if check on IMDB Barry (and Iris) actually appears in every episode
@thehardyfan9908Ай бұрын
They appear but they aren’t always properly in them is what I assume he means
@CanadagraphsАй бұрын
In several episodes, they are in it for less than 30 seconds. THAT is all imdb needs to say "yep, they were in it". They would even get credited with being in it if they use old flashback scenes in an episode. What imdb considers a credit is pretty loose.
@hobabo9703Ай бұрын
I'm not even gonna lie, I watched the whole show a while back, but when I rewatched it through your videos I realized just how cooked the show was from the start. It had a downfall, but the fall wasn't very far. You should honestly just skip directly to season 9 and see the difference I also didn't remember Iris being so annoying and almost comically evil in season 1 until I watched your videos
@javiermaroto8754Ай бұрын
the actress from Iris appears in an episode of Supernatural XD.
@alexkonig4886Ай бұрын
please continue watching the Flash PLEASE!!!
@lyn1.6Ай бұрын
This show got so bad. Cisco getting rid of his powers, just to create a suit that artificially gave him the same powers was very strange. He could've just made a meta dampening ring or something. Also, Savitar said that he turned bad because everyone on the team rejected him because they claimed that he wasn't the real Barry. Everyone accepted K!ller Frost and Kion. They weren't the real Caitlin, but they were accepted by the team, so why wouldn't a remnant of Barry be? So the team could accept the split personally of their friend who betrayed all of them to work with Savitar and who willing worked with Amunet Black and other black market criminals (I know that she was looking for help, but she could've gone to Cisco or something, she has other options), but not an alternate version of Barry who was willing to sacrifice himself to help their Barry?
@parthkelkar2239Ай бұрын
Imo, Crisis on infinite earths was a perfect ending for the cw verse
@mratakanxАй бұрын
still watchable
@hpgaming3181Ай бұрын
Quite new to your channel but since I like flash and lucifer I’m definitely going to be watching more I also love Friendly Space Ninja so really happy you reacted to his video if you wanted to react to another thing I would recommend the Originals it’s a fun supernatural show also made by the CW that this guy also covers and I would love to see you react to it
@TomieJaegerАй бұрын
The downfall definitely started once Eric Wallace replaced Todd Helbing as show runner for S6 and beyond. The show definitely took a dip in quality after S3 but it was still tolerable. Even the first half of S6 is decent but everything from Crisis and beyond got so bad. I’ve never seen a worse dip in quality in a show ever and yes that includes GOT S8. Im still not over how absolutely terrible and cringy it got in those final seasons.
@nartpacariziАй бұрын
So Don will never see Barry meeting the original Wells? That's sad!
@oriondittmer372926 күн бұрын
I agree with these points season 4 was downfall but season 5 and 6 were okay. They def should’ve kept patty for season 2 she was good
@shadowsilk13Ай бұрын
I think you’d like later seasons anyway. Can’t say you’ll like every episode but I’m sure you’d find episodes you would really like
@muhamedquraishiАй бұрын
Season 1 is still my favorite season.
@Dhruv-qw7jfАй бұрын
16:25 you see Don, you have not gotten to the point where the Flash/Barry Allen will start taking a backseat in every storyline, not yet anyway. But don't worry, you will get to that point soon enough. S7 in particular is a very low point for the show, but I think you'll start to see the cracks even before that.
@muhamedquraishiАй бұрын
I love this Flash downfall video, I stopped enjoying after he went back in time in the end of Season 2. He makes a wonderful point about this in 43:26. Also personally I like Barry with Patty not Iris.
@RealHalua4 күн бұрын
I only watched this show for Eobard Thawne
@DGTuberАй бұрын
Seasons 1-6 are very good/good/okay, but after that, it's not as good anymore like it was for those few seasons but still watchable. See.... it annoys me a little bit when he ends up watching shit like this because then he either. (A) Never finishes the show afterwards (B) It gets in his head and pauses more than usual to start talking shit anout it. (C) Instead of watching the show completely to have his own full opinion on the show....they get in his head about why the show sucks to them and then he ends up agreeing.