The Tragic End of World of Tanks

[@kajzoo]

Do you think this update will finally destroy World of Tanks? 😔

[@ImpocZsK]

Nay

[@forbidden__pixel]

Not really, but if they continue doing this, WoT might be dead by 2024

[@skinless333x2]

Remember this is just part 1 of 3 updates for the crews. Basicly their plan is this -> milk people more, as long as you get more money by the remaining players this is still a win. This will increase until the balance shifts. No worries enough people will pay until they see the effects of their actions and understand how bad this was for gamehealth. Also I don't intend to spend my free time in the garage, resetting crews for close to 25hrs. It was fun as long as it lasted.

[@tankranksyt]

Eventualy they will have to fix things up. But if you want to do something about it Kajzoo pls inform everybody to stray free to play and also not purchase garbage. This mentality if evolved will 100% fix WoT

[@escherichiacoli7069]

No, too many brain-dead people playing the game anyway...

[@Alpheamus]

I used to love this game. I find myself wanting to play it, logging in, having one match and realizing for the 8 billionth time in my life that this game is not what it used to be. :(

[@sohailu8058]

Dont do it man, a game should be fun… I stopped 5 years ago, just watch CC’s play the game, it will be more fun

[@VoidraMusic]

Certainly feels that way when you cue up a tier 8 and see a tier x cheiftain on the opposing team

[@1MrErling]

indeed, same here

[@WinstonWolf-d4i]

me too brother me too

[@Thakkii]

i feel ya man , i went play war thunder lol , ye is "totally" diferent playstyle but actually fun hide an seek in realistic battles , well until some bomber finds me lol

[@balongaboy]

I was one of the first 2000 closed beta testers. I played this game for almost 10 years. I even worked as an Artist for the Singapore office. I’ve never seen another game or company go from being so community focused to sacrificing it all for monetization so fast. I remember the days when the only premium feature was extra experience and premium tanks that were on par with tech tree vehicles, it snowballed so hard into cash shop hell.

[@eclipticpeak8452]

I remember those days. I stopped playing forever ago. I was young and didn't have money to keep up with the pay to win/progress. Plus queue times were forever.

[@Glory264]

I was also closed beta tester, maybe not first but still. I remember times when hitting two shots with arty would grant you 120k credits or with IV tier light tank you would be fighting X tier battles. IS-4 on IX tier was almost bulletproof, using gold ammo was very rare and you would use it only when you really needed it (often losing a battle was better than wasting precious gold with gold ammo). That game was something else back then, it had soul. Now it's soul-less greedy game that is dying cause of all issues this game has.

[@graceandmatthewgroen8183]

EA Games is the granddaddy of that swing.

[@graceandmatthewgroen8183]

@@fallschirmjager0000 They even got (I kid you not) Warhammer 40K tanks in it! (I'm talking about Blitz) 🤣🤣🤣

[@deskmat9874]

@@graceandmatthewgroen8183 And console Lmao they made a WarHammer E100 tank destroyer

[@Immortal_BP]

i started in 2012 with my $300 toshiba laptop that nearly burnt a hole in my table while running at 30fps on lowest settings however for the 1-2 years i played on that laptop are by far the fondest memories i have with this game. i remember world of tanks giving me this unique feeling that faded over the years. i cant explain what the feeling was except a sense of pure joy after finally unlocking those high tier tanks you wanted for hundreds of battles.

[@megapet777]

I had the same exact experience as you ^^ in 2012 I got laptop that was running wot at 15-30 fps but I loved the game. Me and my friend played it so much. The game was simply amazing back then

[@lukemus401]

Exact same for me even the brand of laptop 😂

[@sorba911]

Glad every CC is doing a video on this. Maybe Wargaming will actually listen. Who am i kidding....

[@vovochen]

brah.... they already nerfed 1.20, its fine

[@death_star382]

@@vovochen I think he's talking about overall WG pay2win strategy, not only in 1.20

[@calinoiuvlad366]

If the community and CC’s need to scream at WG every time it tries to fix something that isnt already broken there is a problem

[@hotrodpegleg]

wargaming dont give 2 sh**s about the people thats been on sense the game come out all they want i money to fuel their yachts

[@Yippee-ki-yay]

No they won't , money is money

[@AnotherDoomsday]

I'm a Word of Warships player, and I have to say, I feel your pain. The recent updates of Wows made the game incredibly frustrating (I could be here all day telling you how the CV rework ands submarines suck). It feels like WG is actively trying to kill these games, and it's so frustrating to see a game with a solid foundation and potential being destroyed by their greed and self-righteousness.

[@Silenthunter199]

Well said. I was WOWS player too, I started playing it on open beta, I got to tier V with japanese and american tech tree, then I wuit game. I got back recently in December last year. I had to grasp some new stiff, learn again some basics and tactics. But I stopped again after seeing recent changes with subs and CVs. The game is at the same stage like WOT in 2018. Its gonna get waaay worse from now. I had a lot of fun until tier VI but I clearly can see its gonna get way less fun when i go higher tiers. Thats why I quit - there is no sense grinding lines if you are gonna get less fun and only more frustration from it. Tier IV-VI is still fun. But anything higher is just suffering and waste of time for me.

[@Layman927]

Yeah im a former WoWs whale myself. Played since closed beta, quit playing last year. Game peaked when German battleships were first introduced. Everything after that has been a disappointment

[@fokionleile7662]

​@@Layman927heh whales😂😂😂😂

[@mrfun177]

@@Silenthunter199 yup played a lot of WOWS and tier 5 is probably the worst tier to be in since you can't get downtiered and are constantly playing against tier 7. Put that next to CV's changed from a decent opponent to a clearly superior ship type, annoying subs, impossible events that try to force you into paying cus its impossible to do in the time you have for the event. Lots of pay to win ships, the totally not obvious russian bias with the performance of the russian paper ships.

[@tyrantedtv7767]

honestly wows has been on a rapid decline ever since 2019 making the game worse and worse every update

[@Ichorizor]

The only thing I wanted out of crew changes was the removal of crew having to grind experience to get to 100% on a given tank. It is highly punishing to new players, and extremely frustrating to deal with

[@mattnar3865]

Logically that would make sense, if a crew is at the point where they're fighting other tanks then they should already be trained.

[@pointyheadYT]

Nah, keep the grind. They've already added enough help for new players with all the bulls**t blueprint nonsense and mission rewards that give you free 100% crewmembers. Started playing this 12 years ago and new players will never know how nightmarishly hard reaching tier X back then was, or even making your tank playable for that matter. Don't even remember if there were missions back then lol.

[@mattnar3865]

@@pointyheadYT The grind for tanks sure but having a weak crew along with stock tank is a bit much.

[@pyrrhusepirus7181]

Not only having bad crews, but unless you have a premium account you'll need a tier 8 premium to make on average 40k a game even with the premium account. Without either of these you'll lose too many credits. WoWs has a better economy, but still needs reworks on subs. CVs aren't as cancerous as they used to be though.

[@mattnar3865]

@@pyrrhusepirus7181 If you're only making 40k a game in a premium tank with premium account, that's a skill issue on your end

[@fgmemer1637]

I remember in 2015 me and my dad used to play WoT soo much, it is the bigger part of my childhood, im sad to see it die out this way 😢

[@rockz9783]

W dad

[@SmallPotato2313]

My dad plays to this day but not as often as he used to. Before he often spent his free time(after job and spending time with our family) playing. Recently he doesnt even want to play it he will rather spend more time with us.

[@fgmemer1637]

@@SmallPotato2313 we moved to wotb, but its not the same, you cant get the same fun time and enjoyment like u had it

[@arat1447]

Same as me, i still playing on my dad account

[@tanibuga3236]

Sameee bro u used to play wot with my dad all day from 2017 to 2020 then stopped game got boring and somehow ruined

[@vojislavpokrajac7553]

Don't be sad it ends bros, be happy it happened, we got some great moments in this game, which each and every single one of us will always remember, but as everything good in life, it had to come to an end.

[@ImpocZsK]

Then dont stop playing xddddd

[@jonatan1417]

had a nostalgia attack, thank you for remminding me how good the game was back in the days

[@TheStormtrooper00]

The game doesn't need to go,only WG and their sham business schemes.WG is hopelessly corrupt and greedy,while doing absolutely nothing to improve the balance or competitive aspects of the game.

[@Liberty73_NA]

True. Every game peaks, then declines and dies (or goes on life support, like Age of Conan). WG can extend the life of this game for years to come, but their greed is getting the best of them.

[@ronlackey2689]

Maybe the player base will do a mass exodus and they'll have to rework it in order to have people come back. Maybe then, for starters, they will fix the THREE TIER MM!?!?!

[@Cryptic_Potato]

haven't played WoT in over 3 years since I switched to WT and holy god I'm glad I did

[@hunterkiller4578]

Same i left wot 2 years ago

[@silvercrown2449]

Same and then i quit WT as well after they nurfed the rewards system Last time i played i was playing the T10m with the object 908 which was really fun and earned me a quit a lot of silver lions but after the nurf i was earning soo less because of the repair costs. I had like 11 million silver lions. And they started going down soo fast because i was earning only almost enough to cover my repair costs. and i was not a bad player i would always get 3-5 kills in each game. All free to play is becoming a pay to play now :c.

[@otaviocamanho1135]

I was fed up with arty, went to WT. Now i'm fed up with aircraft on GROUND forces, each have has its pathetic feature, but both have equally horrible devs (higher ups)

[@silvercrown2449]

@@otaviocamanho1135 Ahhh yes pro players come on a light tank get 1-2 kills then die get a plane bomb about 3-5 people. Sooo annoying cant even enjoy a tank battle in GROUND forces. I am a heavy tank player so it was even worse for me Almost 60-80% of my deaths are because of planes

[@otaviocamanho1135]

​@@silvercrown2449 I play AB, mostly because aircraft is even more cancerous on RB, and on AB i demolish the enemy team, so i am even more of a high priority by revenge kill. A lot of people who dont see any problem with aircraft are the worst players that die by anything already, so just another thing killing them is not a big deal at all

[@godofblitzkrieg5466]

RIP World Of Tanks. We had some good, unforgetable days together.

[@simpleyetcomplex]

A pity that what ruins this game is ALL too common in literally EVERYTHING ELSE in the f2p game market. It’s like they’re trying to kill f2p games just because of this.

[@-saklo-2256]

@@simpleyetcomplex No dude whom are you kidding... WoT is one of the most monetized game in the market... you can google... it already had a non paying to paying conversion rate of more than 50%... WG made a Billion in revenue in 2021... what they are doing right now is not common at all... they are now covering 2/3rd of the game behind a pay wall... it's only and only greed... nothing else...

[@MeinSophie]

Play wot blitz

[@6489Tankman]

war thunder is a go

[@CommanderTato]

@@simpleyetcomplex f2p is the cancer of gaming

[@peterkolesar4020]

Thank you for this brief summary video. As a kind of a veteran in this game I was always stopping to play and came back after some time and these days I was thinking of returning once again but thanks to you I am spared of more unnecessary disappointment from playing my once belowed game 😢

[@BMPellogia]

Started playing in july 2011, uninstalled at the end of february 2023...The premium ammo shitshow, arty stun mechanic, and the He nerf transformed this game into a stressfull hell for me. For the past 2 years i was only playing for the lack of another option.... i will miss my KV-2 :(

[@logankent5865]

Hey whoa now didn't you know the HE nerf was positive for the game we are totally in a better meta now. /s

[@Gabriel-km2xi]

​@@logankent5865 500 wn8 players are mad because they can't shoot anywhere with HE and do damage.

[@ltmurphy8038]

Also started playing around that time, I remember how bad the +3 MM was when the PZ4 had the L/70 and the KV-1 had the KV-2 turret as an option. I stopped playing back in 2016/2017 due to becoming more interested in War Thunder instead of the arcady nature of WoT but even back then the game felt like it was loosing its way. Looking at the state of it now its barely recognizable to me, I still have fond memories of playing with my friend in high school zooming around maps in the PZ1C and other scout vehicles just having a blast.

[@BMPellogia]

@@ltmurphy8038 The fail platoons with tier 10 and very low tiers together.... remeber making people mad with my KV-2 killing tier 10 people lol

[@spyritwind2540]

Yeah the HE nerf and equipment 2.0 was the last straw for many players.

[@alphaadhito]

Been playing since 2015ish but stopped playing around 2018 and ever since I switched to Warthunder. Even though WT have some its flaws on itself but hey for me its much enjoyable. For now I doesn't even play it often, but I love watching Phlydaily and OddBaws and their videos brings joy to me! So sad that what WoT have become today

[@FAVORITEletsgooo]

Hail the Snail🙏

[@VoltigeurGT]

Don't forget Betty, our lord DOLLAR ✌️ Otherwise fully agreed, after playing WoT for 10 years I've recently transferred to WT and while not perfect concerning pay2win practices, it's MILES better than WoT where paying breaks actual in battle performance and results. Way more enjoyable, feels like a game you can genuinely enjoy without constantly thinking about the possibility of the company killing the game each passing month.

[@TheTimmyboii1337]

Did the same as you. Now i cant get into WoT anymore. Wont coming back there after watching this video. Sure Gajin's magic is real sometimes but WT is much more solid imo

[@GravityTrash.]

War thunder only reminds me I must be blind lmao

[@eVill420]

@removethatpfp usubhhumanssackoffshiitbbittcchh War Thunder has the benefit of not being pay-to-win, it's just pay-to-not-grind the premium vehicles range from useless to overpowered like the main tech trees, but they don't give enough advantage to actually buy them

[@netgamersk]

Saw this way earlier and stopped playing because I knew back then they won't stop their greed. And yet they still amaze me to surprise me how far can they go. I'm surprised the people tolerate it and didn't move on

[@NrthrnKnght]

tank meth is hard to kick

[@Rift_Hawkman]

I started playing War Thunder. While both may be pay to win. I will say there’s no gold rounds each round has its unique factors and not just out right better(as far as I can see now) also the shot goes where I aim and I have to adjust for bullet drop. There’s a lot in the game. While it’s drastically different from WoT I feel like what will happen is some will try it and see that it’s kinda what we’ve wanted in WoT but never got it cause new tier 8 premium. In WoT I feel like a bad player could kill u cause they get lucky when in WT I feel like it’s rare to see it. While WT may not or will not be for everyone I feel like a good portion will find a new home in it.

[@tergam4523]

Most free to play games are like that. Pay with money or pay with time. Honestly WT tech trees I feel has less incentive to rush than the tech trees of WG games. So its really not that bad if one just focuses on having a good time versus trying to reach the end.

[@Rift_Hawkman]

@@SiminaInest so far the grind isnt nearly as bad as starting a stock tank in WoT. It's actually a lot better but with how they handle it imo

[@pantsshitter533]

can’t really say much about WoT because i have never played it before, but WT isn’t exactly P2W, maybe more like “pay for this insanely cool vehicle that everyone knows and loves before the cool shit that comes with it is gone” the only thing i’ve heard about WoT is that it’s health-based and how there’s this goofy-ass mechanic where there’s premium paid shells that do more damage than the standard ones in WT however, sure you can go ahead and buy the cool and well-known vehicle and get some cool shit along with it if you buy it fast enough, but with vehicles getting divided by battle rating and the game having a huge emphasis in targeting specific components to potentially take out a vehicle in one shot, the new players that pay for premiums could still get absolutely get dunked on even by someone who only uses standard tech tree vehicles And that’s the reason why WT’s monetization system works. It’s because the paid stuff isn’t any better than the free stuff, both the paying player and the grinding player are on equal grounds In other words, you aren’t really paying to win the game itself, but to win the torturous grind that comes with the game

[@mateuszbartoszewski3568]

​@@pantsshitter533 you forgot avout russian bias, ghost shells and TEAM Z

[@Rift_Hawkman]

@@pantsshitter533 yeah thats pretty much what ive seen so far. After playing WT for about 4-5 days now I cant really go back to WoT and enjoy it. Theres so many problems with the game that become aparent with the game when you go and play WT. Like u said the gold rounds just having better pen and are more expensive, the health system i use to like but now hate, grinding in WT isnt nearly as bad as being stock at tier 7-9, the premium time in WT is double not just 50%, the crew system is so much better, etc. WoT needs to drastically change if it wants to succeed and thats impossible because 1.) the community hates change 2.) the dev team in incapable of implementing it correctly. The WILL die its a matter of time.

[@sineupp]

I started playing in late 2011, back when WG was generous with garage slots (got a bunch for free during the KV line split and others). you could even earn premium tanks for playing the game. I got Tupe64, SU100Y and SU122-44 without paying a single dime. I stopped playing after the SirFoch incident. And while I miss the tanks mentioned above as well as my E100 and ST-I, every day I see a new reminder of why I'm never reinstalling this game. rip WoT

[@TheScalysnake]

All true , 100% agree with your common sensed opinion. - Also.. WTF was that e5 background gameplay... nice

[@Ghosties_Toastie]

Even though I only play war thunder I still feel bad for the WOT community rn because it’s a game all the players used to enjoy so much and cherished but now have to see it being ruined. I hope things improve for all you WOT players

[@peterkolesar4020]

WoT community did this to itself, no reason to feel bad for us bc if there weren't gold spammers then WG wouldn't be so confident in implementing these money milking tactics..

[@rohan_7444]

@@peterkolesar4020 people spam gold shells bcs they now cost more silver instead of gold. And since you earn 10 times more in these broken premium tanks, there’s no problem in spamming them which gives people more reasons to use gold instead of standard ammo and the wot community never asked for this except for some P2W mfs that are bad in the game

[@outfit5103]

I think this will break the game not because of existing players but how hard it is for new players to come in considering how big the difference is becoming

[@jimmyc00l]

difference has always been huge, the 6th sense change should have happened 10 years ago. It's also always been pay to win, just press the 2 key.

[@outfit5103]

@@jimmyc00l doesnt mean they have to make it even bigger. Maus fully built can reach 29 kmph as an example you can get some insane builds with this system

[@RedshiftOTF]

Yes well said. It's a shame WGing don't really know how to make a new crew system or they want to make it this way for a reason but don't want to tell us.

[@vladdracul2379]

$$$

[@leemcmahon2548]

We don't need a new crew system.

[@skanna9115]

they actually let you know. They just have to make more money. I've noticed this over the years from 2013 to now. In the beginning the premium tanks were few and strong, now between marathons / battle passes / premium tanks of all kinds / equipment / 2d and 3d skins etc... They practically don't tell you but they want you to understand. What a huge sadness.

[@1RightTurnClyde]

More isn't always better, is a concept that WG has never grasped imo.

[@buahcs]

Kajzoo, I hope that if you end up leaving this game that you are able to become a CC for another game and that we can continue supporting you there. I've loved watching your videos, thank you sir for being honest about this and standing up for the f2p community (:

[@ontheupside9521]

war thunderrrr

[@Cyn_ate_my_dog]

​@@ontheupside9521 Pain thunder

[@UnknownArt_K]

War Suffer

[@elif_coşkun_77]

as a tanker from WOT blitz, i am waiting kajzoo with open arms! COME TO BLITZ! WE HAVE NO ARTY!

[@elliotsmith102]

@@ontheupside9521 NOT WAR THUNDER OH GOD

[@GRUMPY656799]

i have been here for over a decade...im playing right now enjoying the last few games before this shit storm happens.. Its already hard for new players to match against vets.. but now with WOT + its a difference that will never be made up...

[@vovochen]

brah.... they already nerfed 1.20, its fine... but you can always gift me your account, and I can try tanks there ! : )

[@scandinavianstacker8485]

​@@vovochen nerfed = 30 days time to destroy your mouse with clicking marathon

[@shrimpboy9587]

Same, just getting in some games before this goes through. I donate 100$+ yearly during holiday ops. I think thats enough for pixel entertainment for one game.

[@EyefyourGf]

@@vovochen Il gift you my account for 500 Eur :D

[@nfdhje38743m]

you mean unicums? a big percentage of vets is still trash at the game with 50k plus battles xd

[@tomasmicuda7678]

90% of us said goodbye after 12 years. Just regret the money we put into it overtime. Which was one of the biggest reason to keep playing while we paid overtime a fair ammount. Which in the end makes no sense, playing because you paid a lot in the past, by paying more to keep playing. Thanks man for video, this game is done. Most of my fellas came back into WT and others play Sons of the forest. Whoever stays playing, have fun, do what you have to do. Happy easter

[@panzer_jager6008]

U know the best part is they try to actively or passively kill tank or ship game knock offs or potential good games related. Doh talking from a mobile platform perspective doh. Rip WoT, went to WT long ago. As well as WoTB. For me WoTB got hit worse, every 1 month or so we get a offer of "new tank, oh its in crates, oh its just collector edition(no prem earning stats, just a fancy non-tree tank) whats that 100 euros for 12 crates of 0.1 drop chance?" DAUM ITS A FUCKING GOOD DEAL WAR GAMMING. Whats next a kv2000 with a 300mm shell in t6??

[@Journey_to_who_knows]

That’s how it’s always going to be. Either the game runs out of players or they do something stupid, both have you quitting. No online game is different. Only thing that can change is bots to let you play offline which I think is present, but eventually the servers will close too.

[@pupkin-qk8ql]

I have thousands of hours in WoT, just started playing WarThunder recently, got around 100hours, and that game is 100% more enjoyable right now.

[@dulguunjargal1199]

One of us One of us One of us One of us

[@edwardo8404]

the snail will engulfed the world

[@scxrb4807]

Firstly limiting the number of artillery units to one per site to reduce their impact on battles. Secondly, removing wheeled lights can also contribute to a more balanced gameplay, as they are still overpowered and always will be. Finally, it is important to address the overpowered tanks that are dominating the game and shift away from the heavy tank meta.

[@kajzoo]

Chatgpt scxrb edition

[@scxrb4807]

@@kajzoo you're just too smart

[@Cent51]

They did nerf Arty, we were only meant to get 0 to 1 per game, sometimes 2 if there is a lot in the que, but they secretly back tracked that and now we back to the good old days of 2 to 3 arty per game (Edit: I mean before the "update" to reduce the amount of arty per game) and I still say they have buffed the stun and accuracy in secrete on top of it..

[@renetnk]

@@Cent51 Arty si definitely not nerfed. Oldschool arty oneshooted you once in 20battles and you were fine. Now there are still 2-3 artys, more accurate than ever, with fast reload, still capable of doing 1400dmg if they pen you. And lastly there is fucking stun mechanic. On top of that, there is also teamstun which is complete bullshit.

[@scxrb4807]

@@renetnk for real stun is pure pain

[@divanshu5039]

I'm a old player of this game and to my knowledge it all started from that update which OverBuffed the T110E5. That's where it all started.

[@jakubcibik2621]

I played this game since 2010 and I can say it took big part of my childhood so its sad to see how this game is slowly dying but I need to be thankful for all the great memories that I have also 2018 was last year that I really enjoy playing wot.

[@nlluke5207]

I did play from 2011 till 2018 im glad i did stop playing it.

[@LeafyLumens]

i think they destroy games so people stop playing games

[@VrisviPilverCh]

I remember being so in love with this game. For 10 years I logged in everyday. Watched to much content. Spent an unhealthy amount of old premium vehicles. The last 3 years, you'll be lucky to see me on for 1 day a week. "Ain't what it used to be" doesn't cut it. The only similarities is it's a team based tank game. If they don't love their game, how are we expected to?

[@flopana5762]

After that crazy chinese monster of a tank got added I quit the game finally

[@filipbilafer2777]

Played the game for 7 years aswell and switched to War Thunder 3 years ago

[@_spooT]

greed kills all, as they say

[@_spooT]

@removethatpfp usubhhumanssackoffshiitbbittcchh this person may love anime, but at least they're living their best lives to the fullest. look at you, wasting your time trying so hard to spread your immaturity and toxicity. "oh I hAtE AnImE" no my guy, you don't look cool. to everyone, people like you just look immature and childish...subhuman even. grow up lmao

[@christianmichael4020]

I used to play WoT on console for years in middle school, then I stepped away from tank game for a hot minute. Started on WT and haven’t really touched WoT other than when I tried it briefly on PC. It’s absolutely wild how many parallels in frustration I see being voiced about WoT that I and others deal with in WT.

[@dubyajay7860]

I've been stuck on HT-4 for the 260 for months (6 internal mods- terrible since the HE nerf). Now all I have to do is have snap shot and dead eye on a tank, and I'm sure I'll knock it out in a day. Downside is, the rest of the patch.

[@Powerofghostwot]

Just grab an sconq and have a 6k dmg game should be easy

[@dubyajay7860]

@@Powerofghostwot what a dumb response.

[@ericvanhayden8381]

Its all about setting enemy on fire (high tier games where people dont use extinguishers), you'll get 4+ mods ez. Wouldnt say its worse than blocked dmg mission.

[@no1washerezz]

@@ericvanhayden8381 yeah, the block damage missions are ludicrously impossible. if you had a well armored tank in a good position, people dont even bother shooting you. i have the 260 but to this day, i still have not completed ht-9 or whichever one that was which needed you to block 3x your health and 4k damage.

[@Kubar38]

I totally agree with you. I stopped playing WOT for some time just because of this update and I would recommend everybody do the same so WG finally notices what they have done and are doing. I love the game, but I hate these changes.

[@NotenoughtTea]

I downloaded the game only a few days after it was released and have played until they were planning to remove equipment and make it cost silver or gold to move (the already free ones) around. There have been no new maps in, I think it's almost over a year at that point. Tanks that were even relatively fun to play against were nerfed into the ground and premiums started becoming bulletproof unless you spammed gold in to the sides or back. The game used to have 30,000 players on weekday nights, few years ago it had barely 20,000 on a weekend. A lot of people came back for WoT classic but that wasn't going to last and it didn't. It's really sad to see a fun game go to waste

[@mattdovale]

i jumped from wot to war thunder a few years ago and i am glad that i did, the weird italian autoloaders are what made me quit entirely and it doesnt seem that the game has improved at any point since i left

[@proofostrich9061]

As a War Thunder player, we always like to make jokes and complain that gaijin is awful, but we really don’t understand that we actually have it pretty good compared to some other games.

[@mikailvito7200]

​​​@@proofostrich9061 War Thunder still has predatory monetization, which honestly makes you think about these f2p games. Makes me uncomfortable thinking about mobile games which are *even* worse

[@proofostrich9061]

@@mikailvito7200 Yeah 100%

[@nw1819]

"we will closely monitor the situation after the release to quickly address any imbalances if they arise." -So, after you update all your crews (in a soul crushing grind with similar hours to a full-time job, all in a 30 day window) they will buff/nerf the new skills so you need to change them again (for gold, of course). "Keep chasing the carrot" -WG

[@Snaques]

I got 50k+ games under the belt, but gave up on WoT last year. It just got too exhausting trying to keep up with the latest FOTM tanks and grinding for bond equipment in order to stay competitive. I kind of understand why they want this WoT+. Only thing I spent money on were holiday ops boxes as those and all the free premium days you got left and right got me through the year. No business can work in a way where all of the income comes in one month of the year. That being said, maybe they should rethink the availability of normal premium days so people would buy them instead of inventing these stupid p2p offerings.

[@gustavschnitzel]

"No business can work in a way where all of the income comes in one month of the year" Fireworks industry: **nervous sweating**

[@TeamCykelhold]

If the gold can last you a year you most likely spent enough to buy a AAA title game in Christmas, and that should be enough for WG. This is pure greed.

[@leemcmahon2548]

They are the cause of all of their own problems. And they know it, anyone notice that the amount of premium days and amount of gold was lower in this years boxes, I did and WARGAMING did they know they have given away to much in the past so now they are limiting the amounts. They are self harming by nature, wargaming is its own worst enemy.

[@ekscalybur]

"No business can work in a way where all of the income comes in one month of the year." The entirety of the retail market in the whole Western World for over a century would argue with you. How do you not know this?

[@TeamCykelhold]

@@ekscalybur I agree, it's a BS argument. A business can work just fine having most of it's income from Christmas. I used to work in the retail toy industry. 80-90% income was from Christmas. Why should an industry not be able to copy with that? It's just an excuse for what they are doing. Ofc they want to spread out the income, it's much safer. But it should not be used as an excuse. It's greed that's all.

[@Anriandor]

Video about WoT's end: *Panik* Notice it's April fool's: *Calm* WG is not actually joking: *P a n i k*

[@chrismcintyre5445]

The thing about this game is that even if you pay-to-win you aren't always pay-to-win enough, there is just too many ways to gain an advantage and that gets worse and worse every year. I bought a Jt 8.8 premium in the past, it was at one point a decent credit earner but in todays WoT it has no chance. The two things it had going for it was armor and rof. Yet in the game of gold spamming and autoloaders, these things aren't special. You have to play it as an assaulter, but you always get super punished for doing so because EVERYBODY is good with trading with you. I wanted to get the Lowe for my sanity sake but I don't want to put anymore money into this game. I'm at a spot where my premium tank sucks and I can't play it, and without one it takes far too long to earner enough credits to progress. This game just sucks all my spirit out of me which is a shame because I use to enjoy it so much.

[@harlander-harpy]

I used to be a Warships player and a lot of these problems sound the same as the ones we had and why I ultimately left for Warthunder. Wargaming on the whole seems to disregard how it may feel to fight against a tank/ship and only how it feels to play it. The heavy monetization, disregard for the opinions of the community, and general holier than-thou attitude are direct 1:1 problems with WOWS as well. It really seems like a systemic issue with the company on the whole

[@ChemySh]

I still remember Pay-to-Rico and FCKUTURY it's sad for bote lovers but Weegee really needs to die for the health of the industry

[@bartoszboboryko4684]

@@ChemySh Try to remember the Thunderer bullshit and Stallinium ships and CVs.

[@TheEvilFoxy]

The one feature I could never bring myself to like in WoT was the whole gun dispersion feature where you could, and often did, miss fully aimed shots just because the RNGesus hates you. It felt like I played the damn lottery every time I pulled the trigger. That's just one thing, I could write a whole essay about all the things I have beef with in this game.

[@CrniWuk]

Yeah I feel you. The RNG on almost everything is what made me stop playing the game. Accuracy, penetration and damage. I dont mind loosing when I do something wrong but often enough it feels as you say like a lottery.

[@SmallPotato2313]

imo they should remove rng on penetration. Dmg rng is okay for diversity of each game, if u did same amount of dmg each game, it would get boring. And accuracy rng although i hate it i must admit its necessary otherwise tanks with big guns would be too strong. But the penetration rng is just toxic to every player. Either u penetrate with luck although you shouldnt or you dont penetrate when u should and worst part is you dont even know if it was you aiming at wrong place on tank or just rng (maybe at least add penetration number of your last shell so people would know better why shell did or didnt pen)

[@peterkolesar4020]

My problem with RNG was what I use to call an "RNG token" meaning that there are times when I would simply hit anything with everything while other times I couldn't hit 💩 even with the most precise guns and good crews when fully aimed (and it wasn't just about accuracy) and I noticed this especially during marathons when I would be playing whole days switching the game on and off and changing servers multiple times a day. Simply put: imo RNG would give some players "a good token" and some players "a bad token" and change these after some periods of time or after certain events like game reset every morning or server change etc.

[@wetstoffels3198]

@@peterkolesar4020 Yes it's my intuition as well that there is something unnatural going on in the game. I've also noticed that team members are either really bad or really good, like a coin flip. I remember playing the game back in 2013 and back then it was so honest and simple. Now when you open the game you get 50 pop-ups, cluttered to h*ll main screen with god knows what bullshit.

[@otaviocamanho1135]

RNG sucks, but the one feature that is the eorst, pathetic to its core is arty

[@tennolife9930]

How can a company intentionally destroy a game with such a good gameplay loop is beyond me. They can SO easily remove all the pay2win elements and focus on cosmetics more instead, yet they probably lost 80% of their potential players because of how pay2win this game is. They can rebalance premium tanks and make them more of a "this tank has this gimmick but is meh overall + you earn more EXP and gold with it" and they'll be fine, they can then equalize all the ammo types (price wise), make current gold ammo do less damage but keep their pen value, so a nerf, but then you have to think "do I shoot and guarantee a pen but for less damage, or do I try to aim for weak spots and do more damage but risk not penning?". And simply rework the crew perks, limit them to 5 perks per crew member, so 5 levels max which is still a bit of a grind but definitely not pay2win dump money to buy 100 crew books sort of a thing. That's ALL they have to do to balance this game out and HUGELY attract all their lost players back AND THEN SOME.

[@through-faith-alone]

I actually agree with most of what you said

[@Collat3ralD4mage]

And I thought War Thunder was bad with pay-to-win premium vehicles, but this is just on another insane level

[@revolucion5398]

not even close

[@SomeoneYouHate]

war thunder genneraly doesnt have any op vehicles locked behind a paywall(with a few exceptions) and the best vehicles are ussualy free. Also war thunders premium just makes the grind faster and doesnt give you any paywall locked features.

[@TriggerVR657]

@@SomeoneYouHate (the KA50’s)

[@SomeoneYouHate]

@@TriggerVR657 compare ka50 to that 2 barrel tank that WoT offers

[@TriggerVR657]

@@SomeoneYouHate WT also has a 2 barrel

[@vindiquell]

I started playing in 2011, reached superuni then uninstalled after 9 years. The golden years were the first 5.

[@LoneWolf-kw3ol]

i used to play this game way back in 2012, and quit in 2014 for War Thunder GF. Now, ive come back to see what it offered and after recovering my account i found that i had lost about 20 vehicles due to the tree trimming, including some of my all-time favorites like the T67 USA TD. WoT's biggest strength was its casual, almost relaxing gameplay combined with its ability to bring blueprint tanks to life alongside its modular system that could show a dozen vehicles within one researchable entity, if only at the cost of historical accuracy. The game has forgotten that. Many of the vehicles deleted were only deleted to place a bandaid over the rapidly growing grind wall issues, and shortly after we started seeing more nations, bringing the problems right back. So many vehicles cut could have had a firm place in the modern state of the game, if the devs would actually cement the mechanics there. the dynamic of split trees and sub categories (like Sniper TD and Assault TD) could be a massive boon to the game to shake up its combat and turn most maps on their head. Bump up the armor and firepower on Ferdi and jagdtiger, lower their sight ranges and concealment, make them casemate heavies with large HP pools, make hellcats have longer spot ranges but shorter view ranges (an up gunned light tank so to speak)... Last thing ill say: Keep fucking modern tanks the FUCK out of the game. Early cold war BARELY works in any game with ww2 era vehicles, going much past 1958 is a death sentence for balance and fun. Moving from cold war to premodern and now modern with M1A2 Abrams has completely destroyed War Thunder and its community. You think premiums are bad? wait until they have a HEATFS dart that can pen over 400mm of effective armor at any range while they themselves are immune to any AP based round. If the game isnt dying, progressing to pre modern/late cold war will definitely execute this game like a taliban with a camera.

[@stevebarnett5048]

There was a time I could play WoT all day, and while I suppose initial enthusiasm does wear off a big chunk of my enthusiasm has been lost because of terrible updates over the years. I can now only play a session for two or three games before it just doesn't seem like fun anymore. So with this update I think I'm done, I'm already trying new games out.

[@sheriken5989]

Man. Its actually kind of upsetting to see this game go down like this. I use to play WOT almost all the time as a kid. I remember back when i was 6, i would wake up as early as 2AM to get in some games of WOT before going to school. I have since then converted to War Thunder after Gaijin added more and more to the tanks. And i dont think i would love War Thunder as much as i do, if it werent for WOT. RIP World of Tanks.

[@toxictophat711]

Same here war thunder took me when wot removed my favorite tank the waffentragger autoloader the tank I played years to unlock and never got to use

[@TheTAM2CGuy]

I remember playing in 2015 when my dad made his WoT account and started playing the Tiger 1.. fast forward almost 8 years later i log back into his account and everything he worked up for is gathering dust.

[@scottl9091]

We need more players to express their opinions on the update on the form

[@lexwaldez]

They've been hiding the pay to win for as long as they could. Now it's flat out, out in the open pay to win. Everyone I know quit playing years ago because we all saw the writing on the wall. Just say goodbye and move on.

[@ember2933]

Wargaming isn't the kind of company to listen to a horde of people complaining. They need incentive, we need to take action. Instead of fighting with words, we fight with money. Stop paying for the game, or just stop playing it entirely, THEN they will listen. If you spread the word, there will be a small chance that a large scale boycott will happen.

[@Vodkafor3]

I made the move to War Thunder 5 years ago and have never regretted it.

[@roxout5743]

you sure?

[@Vodkafor3]

@@roxout5743 100% Sure

[@otaviocamanho1135]

I wouldnt go back to wot too, but wt is equally as flawed

[@americankid7782]

I haven’t played WoT since in Middle School when I figured out how OP premium ammo was.

[@nexusianu]

Good job man! Hope you and other content creators Will make wg realise what mistakes they are making, and maybe one day we Will get the wot we used to know...

[@CobraDBlade]

I left WoT many, many years ago. Back before Italian tanks made it to the game, maybe even sooner I don't really remember. Every once in a while a WoT video pops up in my feed and it just reinforces why I've left this game (and all other Wargaming games) behind for good. Mind you, I didn't really end up in that much of a better place going to War Thunder...

[@riatorex8722]

It's picking the lesser of two evils, really. But in War Thunder, at least you won't get cucked by a goofy ass premium shell or complicated crew system. Like with what everybody said, WT is pay to grind, but it doesn't necessarily make you win... with some exceptions

[@enclavesoldier769]

Former WoT console player here, while the problems are slightly different I totally feel the pain. The game became far too play to win and strayed wildly away from its origins to the point it stopped being fun anymore. We had to deal with Frankenstein mercenary tanks that mix and match tank parts (tbh not too bad), anime tanks, animal themed tanks, and a UI akin to a over complicated anime intro. I missed playing old WoT, I’ve been a player since 2014 but stopped in 2021 after they just went off the rails and moved on. I’m here silently wishing I can play the game I fell in love with

[@Anti_Septikum]

"Play to win" of course you have to play to win, how do you win without even playing the game?

[@enclavesoldier769]

@@Anti_Septikum damn you know what I meant 😂. But really it’s bad, I checked it out recently and there’s a premium tier 10 tank called the Centurion Avre that has hesh rounds that have 185/240 pen and 1400/1100 alpha. Not just that it has centurion mobility, bullshit spaced armor that bounce even tier 10 TDs, medium tank spotting, medium tank camo, and one of the highest HP for tier ten mediums. Literally there’s only one downside on paper being the accuracy, but I have seen clips and gameplay where it rarely misses. When a MEDIUM tank can two shot tier ten heavy tanks there is a major problem

[@Anti_Septikum]

@@enclavesoldier769 yes it's bad, but I'm pretty sure you can't play warthunder on mobile

[@GenHummel96]

Oh man Kajzoo, i feel every songle of your words! WoT is the only game i actively play since the open Beta in 2011 and i used to love it... Its sad to see what this game is turning into! I absolutely agree your opinion regarding the changes (even if some of my crew have 7 to 8 perks and would benefit from it)! And oh boy, i got nostalgic about these maps you named! Is anyone of you remembering the map swamp? Or sacred valley? There have been so many cool maps, i want to have them back 😊

[@saiftaher2210]

I really REALLY miss sacred valley and windstorm :(

[@GenHummel96]

@@saiftaher2210 sacred valley was cool! Do you remember the times when you could "mountain goat" on that big mountain on that B/C 8/9 Position? Before weg introduced these damn invisible walls? I sadly have been too bad in the game to appreciate windstorm as a map in the days it was still in the map pool... (I play since beta and up to 2016 i played 800 wn8 on average, then i paused the game and since covid i returned and play around 2300 wn8 in the last 6k matches) 👌

[@saiftaher2210]

@@GenHummel96 yeah QB made a vid about it at some point (it's a very famous vid iirc; a 50B on the thumbnail with the question "how did he get there?")

[@GenHummel96]

@@saiftaher2210 i will search that one tonight, thx for the advice ✌️

[@GenHummel96]

@@saiftaher2210 oh man, i found that replay and realizrd that i watched it that looong years ago when it was uploaded - miss these good old times 😅

[@thegoldencrownjewel7312]

i grew up with this game and it is very sad to see how it has become now, i hop in here and there during big breaks (we talking months since last game played) to see how are things, the fact that im not surprised about all of this shocks me, since i knew the moment i stepped into this game to some point, WG is going to take my money, and they did. Now im just, watching on the sidelines how things unfold. Its like watching a building really. Wg built it over 10 years of "hard" work, and inside that building is the entire comunity. And now they are striking right at the foundation of said building, making the whole thing go down, and im just watching. A *Shame* really, sorry for the little rant, but felt like taking a rock off my chest

[@botlilian5990]

I have been playing WoT since 2012 and i really love what the game used to be. I remember the old garage, the old soundtracks when premium shells used to be the biggest problem in game. WoT went down with the horrible crew update. But the devs keep making broken tanks like japanese TDs or BZs even more broken and the fact that when you pay in game you grind tank tiers 8 times faster makes old player go mad because you sometimes see tier 9 player that have no idea of how you actually play the game because they paid to get there. Not even talking about the hell that is being Free to Play in this game that i have experienced until today. Really sad for what's happening to WoT

[@philipp2253]

So sad to hear that, I'm playing wot since 2012, and I loved the game so much, but maybe this story has an end now.. I have the hope that maybe some day it will go in another direction, but for now it is hard to believe. Nice video and a good summary of the following update, kajzoo. cheers

[@panther-nk2hn]

Started playing in 2012, with the t50-2 to prove it. Quite back in 2021 cuz I couldn't stand seeing more premiums than tech tree vehicles in matchmaker and saw it as a sign. Nowadays, the only time I think of WoT is when my dad plays with his brother, or when I watch videos on it.

[@paavobergmann4920]

I doubt there will be a change. I started in BEta, and since then, there was a gazillion of bad decisions, we always complained, Players left valuable comments to the devs, yet they shunned a gazillion chances to steer back to a good game, so I sincerely doubt they ever will. They made enough money, killing it doesn´t hurt them. They were never invested in what the game could be, only in what it would yield for them. It was a quality simulator the moment it went live.

[@philipp2253]

@@paavobergmann4920 oh damn that sounds even more sad :/

[@Swatotastic]

The buffed perks are downright insane, additional 20% to module damage will completely mess the game up since tanks with 150 or even 130mm guns will ammorack, set on fire or knockout crew every few shots..

[@spinningsquare1325]

See: WT

[@Swatotastic]

@@spinningsquare1325 ye but WT has always been this way so everyone went into it knowing that it's basically one shot one kill type game. Wot is way less skill based with a ton of luck involved so this change will make it even more luck dependent imo

[@spinningsquare1325]

@@Swatotastic wot is an unconvincing ugly p2w POS of a game.

[@Mojo702]

I just recently came back to WoT after a 6 year hiatus. They were saying this exact same thing about the game back then, too, after an update, yet it's still going.

[@astheros24]

This video worth 1 million likes . To bad i can give just one....Thumb up kajzoo...

[@forbidden__pixel]

I don't like where WoT is going...

[@ember2933]

Oh, so NOW you're noticing that the game's gone to shit?

[@forbidden__pixel]

@@ember2933 no, when the game started to lose players a few years ago i noticed that, but now, they're just releasing stuff where now WoT feels like p2w

[@NeroLordofChaos]

I stopped playing after the HD update and HE round changes. it made playing my KV-2 unfun. knocking T6-T8s for anywhere between half to 2/3rds of their hp because I lobbed an HE into a weakspot was a thing of beauty.

[@davidaio1019]

Kajzoo You all said what i had on my mind... The short story about me as a WOT player i started play WOT less than 6 years back so far have researched all tech tree tanks there is... Have all tier X's in garage... Did all missions for obj.260 and Obj.279 (e)... Well ok ok i skipped few missions with the orders... I have played with 590 tanks i aced almost all of them... Because i made a goal... It will be my last goal i will reach... BECAUSE OF GREEDINESS... I was thinking to start marking all tanks after i will finish acing them all and now i guess i will become a FREE TO PLAY PLAYER WOT is free to play after all yes? 🙄 Anyway i was thinking to invest another 1-2 years of my time and 700++ euros... But after PATCH 1.20.1 I think i will become arty to spread the love and good emotions... WG you will loose not only me but i guess 10-20% of community this is QUICK MATH LET'S SAY 10% of players is 1000 so lets take 700 euros 1000x700=700.000 euros... Now do the math with real 10-20% players like me out of all 100% that about 50%+ is playing as FREE TO PLAY PLAYERS how much you will start loosing when the 1.20.1 PATCH Gonna go live?🤑👌WG have fun seeing your online and income like in BETA TEST Times. 😊 WG You don't hear us? Ok you will not gonna hear how we leave the game then... 😁👍

[@AgentK-im8ke]

don't invest any money please don't support this crap, sooner wargaming dies sooner someone will take it and put it back like it was in 2015 (the golden age)

[@SuperRadexx]

Save some more money and go to Thailand. You can drink a beer eat cheap and tasty food and chat with pretty girls in a bar. You can think about WOT while swimming in the warm sea. I am selling all my tanks slowly playing less and less as this has turned into a shi....show of monkeys doesn't matter what tier you play. Live your life and forget about this game. It will bring you only mental suffering and stress for your hard earned money. WG are desperate when they introduced this patch and remember they will be begging the good players to come back once their game becomes totally unplayable and they will have no players left.

[@davidaio1019]

@@SuperRadexx You see WG i got response... Was that so hard? Ty Super Radexx for idea how to spend my time and money... I'm spending not millions on WOT because it's hard to get FOMO effect on me as WG likes to do with people feelings so i was thinking invest little by little until they f everything up with 1.20.1 patch ... But oh well i will come back to check all 3D styles i have and play arty because WG turned me in to dark/arty side... I will spread my love and good emotions on those with premiums especially with the ''RENTAL'' 1million euros TS 54. If what i'm not angry on people who is spending money on the game it's how the game is letting you to do that... How they say don't hate the player hate the game so i hope everyone who will get some love and good emotions from me while i will play arty gonna understand that. Take care guys. 😉 BTW for all those who has FOMO Fear of missing out effect when something new coming out... You guys should remember how many times WG was selling E 25 as if it was last chance and every time when WG need some money they remember that there is some OP tier by tier premium tanks i guess BZ-176 gonna be another E 25... 😂Don't miss out as wg loves to write simply spend your money on WG...

[@1RightTurnClyde]

Agree with you 💯, and yep, it's done. They've officially stuck a fork in their game. Too many things go on in this game that's just too much to be considered coincidental. A lot of players feel that WG rigs several aspects of the game. Their current RNG is obnoxiously outdated to the point of being several times past rediculous. They also make wholesale changes in aspects of the game, which affects the player base and actually costs the player base money that ends up effectively wasted ( like the proposed crew change system ).They recently just went through crew skill changes. It was fairly easy to see the end coming months ago and we quit ( three accounts in my family are done), and we haven't looked back. There are just too many other games to play rather than to deal with WG BS that the mass community doesn't want, or ask for. They want new players, but can't even retain their vet players. That's a really big problem. I was a beta player and have been frustrated over several things, and every time you think they've hit the top of the stupid list, there appears to be a "hold my beer and watch this" moment. The game is sadly trash in comparison to what it once was. Imagine this; a gaming company that has failed to fix a simple thing like MM for a decade. Imo they are incompetent. The ONLY thing that makes these companies stand up and listen is by a big loss in the player base. When World of Warcraft started losing their player base, they made changes by then listening to what their players wanted, and now have numbers that have surpassed their heyday numbers from what I've read. Maybe WG should for once, follow suit.

[@ekscalybur]

All the bitching about matchmaker boils down to one thing. The tomatoes want to be carried every single match.

[@aksmex2576]

I miss when I was a high school kid playing this game and loving it all the time. Those were the times. I played on xbox and I was so good at the game without using any form of gold ammo. I see you using gold ammo, I know it is now a necessity.

[@justarandomguy3969]

its really not

[@IrateWizrd]

​@@justarandomguy3969depends on the tank

[@tymus5919]

Well said sir, all of your points are spot on. Imo they really should remove +2 MM. Balancing tanks with +1 MM are much more easier and at least it'll improve the gameplay quality a little bit. I mean c'mon, they've already tested it out on WoT Blitz and it works well enough. And yeah i really hope they cancel WoT plus man..

[@impo997]

the bond thingy is overpowered, I think there should be one bond demounting kid granted for one week of wot+ sub (so 4 free demounts/month) the rest of the features are good for the game imo: +1 map ban is pretty cool since 90% of maps are dog$hit (every feature that increases your chances to get into procho with no clickers is good); passive crew xp isn't p2w, it's just something you'd get by investing time into the game, and buying things is meant to save this time in the first place; 500 gold/week is actually saving you money (for battlepass/normal premium days if you ain't buying the Christmas boxes); and ts54 is mediocre at best. as for the crew rework, that buffed snapshot is based af (considering that every single newly released tank has disgusting gun handling), exclusive radiooperator firefighting and engine power boost skills are amazing, also the faster consumables should be implemented even without a dedicated skill (to limit clickers impact on the game) and the critical dmg skill should be deleted completely. but tbh, they should just implement that multiple tanks/1 crew mechanic from the crew 2.0 that I've been waiting for since I was born + normalize the crew count (something like fusing the crews into one commander like in the crew 2.0, but that also has it's flaws and complications) and that would be a sufficient crew rework. It's not possible to tweak the skills in such way that there won't be a meta skillset, yet WG seems not to understand that. and also, remove artillery.

[@michaelchristidis8658]

I remember I wanted to play this game when I was 12 so much but couldn't because we just had a very old pc...some time passed and I got a gaming pc...then I realized what years can do to a popular online game with poor development...

[@dfresh1283]

I really do miss the maps that were more interesting with the strategy you could use on them and I think map changes were one of the biggest downfalls of the game itself if the maps were more diverse with there cover, size, and lane placement and bridging so many more tanks would be playable and viable.

[@PatrickPalder]

Yes erlenberg was one of my favorite maps in the game, now it's my most hated one and you can't even block it since it comes with every mode possible and I don't stop playing all modes only cause I hate one map with passion

[@kevingallineauii9353]

Unpopular opinion: I like Ruinburg. With the recent changes (north spawn can get on top of the hill without being exposed to enemy fire) I think it is one of the most balance maps in the game.

[@colibri2025]

As a war thunder enjoyer it's pretty sad to see that the world of tanks community goes through basically the same shit that we go through. Although different for each game :/

[@damio6865]

As a fellow war thunder player wargaming makes gajin look competent lmao

[@dingoatemybaby9739]

The thing that suck about this is that I could feasibly see gaijin accidentally doing what war gaming are doing now.

[@JustForUs-c9m]

If I'm a new player, and i see that there is TWO paid subscriptions and a season pass, will I start the game? Don't think so...

[@emirgueneri988]

Perfectly described my thoughts about the upcoming update, thanks Kajzoo!

[@jimmyc00l]

We saw the same (regarding people being careful when using stuff) way back when they started selling gold ammo for credits, before that it was rare someone would just press their 2 key when their first shot doesn't pen, where as now it's every game.

[@Enclave_Engineer]

My decision to swich to War Thunder seems better every WoT update. No matter how much dumb updates War Thunder brings, your skill and positioning will win in the end.

[@ember2933]

Throw aside all of the pay to win bullshit of both games and let's look at them from a gameplay perspective. War Thunder encourages strategy and positioning and timing, while WoT encourages tactics and quick thinking and team play. What is there to compare? Are you saying one thing is better because it's completely different?

[@BlueRGuy]

Also funny quality April fool's every year 👌

[@kristiangustafson4130]

I quit 18 months ago. It was impossible to play competitively without pissing money into the game. I was not adverse to spending money on gold, but it was to the point where you had to make a significant monthly budget just to be a casual player at all.

[@SupremeMasterr]

A necessary video.. keep the pressure up on them! edit: btw which game you are hinting about next arcade tank game release ? At least which company ?

[@kajzoo]

;)

[@SupremeMasterr]

@@kajzoo pffft :)

[@sirwes2924]

@@kajzoo This is what I want to know.. Why keep it a secret? I spent thousands of hours and thousands of dollars in WoT and WoWs. I stopped playing WoT when italians came out and WoWs when the loot box scandal happened. I'm tired of the greed, I'm tired of them making gameplay decisions off of greed instead of what makes the game better.

[@kserkez1763]

The worst part is that crew 2. 0 in previous form was fine, but old players had pain in their asses and now we are getting overpowered crew that will make new players fully obsolete in the game

[@leudast1215]

the old system had a different form of monetization. it was still just as bad and hostile to new players. if they had gone down the previous route they would've effectively been a mobile game.

[@kserkez1763]

@@leudast1215 previous after tweaks could be the best of both worlds, you were limited so you needed to chose wisely, low crew vehicles weren't obsolete like they are in this system, the only reason why original crew 2.0 was bad is that masteries of crew given to much % to main qualification.

[@Adam-pt8qm]

I used to play it on xbox 360, then I swapped to ps4 and played on there, but I stopped playing because it seemed like you'd be lucky to win one or two games in every ten. The amount of times my team would be annihilated in the first few minutes was ridiculous, and this would happen in tier 9 and 10 games. People should know how to play it by then. Forget about playing with friends, near enough every time, we would be lower tier, it's like the developers don't want you to have any fun. Moved on to pc now, and there's no chance I'll be even trying on that platform.

[@DeadPro98]

Its really nice to see a player of your level who will benefit from WOTPlus the most stand with us noobs and shun it. Thanks you Kajzoo

[@joaosampaio7393]

if u dont pay and still play the game I would argue U are at the very least 20% better than people who play it really is like that U cant do shit unless u pay at least 7 to 10 % of the winrate of the guys who are high level players come from the p2w part of the game not their own skill

[@tjmac1453]

I have been playing this game a long time. Lately I have found myself playing this less and less. If this patch brings about all these change I most likely will walk away from it. I agree, it does appear that greed has taken hold at WoT and it is becoming a pay to win game. With free to play player having little chance to advance. Well done with this video Kajzoo.

[@ruxenus2444]

1:33 How untested? There are free wot testing servers available to everyone, in which you go can play updates before they officially come to life, so everything is actually tested, at least by community

[@nacho71ar]

Almost ignored all what you were saying with all those amazing games in the background... that E5 battle was incredible! But yes, 1.20.1 can't be released as is and needs a major rework... the perk system is just not ripe for release... more testing is required ... WoT team should look into how World of Warships did their rework... even with 12 additional commander points (for 21 in total) the system there only needed one perk to be rebalanced... and all was good mostly.

[@Cent51]

The E5 wasa clutch and half game -

[@source987]

I left this game years ago but it still bothers me. I played from 2012 to 2020, and It’s slowly fallen apart from what I once knew. I’m very sad to see what it has become, but I’m so happy for all the memories I made. Goodbye, WoT.

[@nlluke5207]

I did play from 2011 till 2018 im glad i did stop, but the time i did unluck the E-100 when there where only a few and Everyone is just staring and impressed. The golden years.

[@JohnyMcNeal]

I played since beta. Throughout the journey there were some breaks. Few weeks, months, even few years due to IRL, ofc WoT was only my hoby so IRL was priority ofc. There were times when I and my team were literally hooked on it. We used to have practices for first season of CW where we held a lot of territories and gaines reasonable amount of gold (hey, anyone remembers pirates even before FAME was a thing?! :D ). To cut the story short, I stood by it for a long time, even on twitch before weenis started, Daki, kajzoo here, others from FAME and some more from outside the clan... and it was sort of always fun even tho we had huge rng. A lot of people complained it was p2w bla bla no skill required but it's not true compared to other games. Anyway, to conclude, I installed WoT recently again, and, sorry, not intending to sound toxic but the game is dead for us who remember playing it for a win and not "for fun" to quote some noobs from the start. Game is overfilled with not noobs but idiots nowdays. Too many inactives, noobs, all sort of tanks, it just lost all its charm. But, we had a good run. :)

[@markkussusa]

Yeah... I think CW was the redeeming streak where friends would gather to win, play and exchange banter... Sorta like soccer practice. And you were playing against teams that knew what they were doing... But the random matches that was pure chaos. I don't even wanna rememeber!

[@mikexkiller1730]

I was playing this game before frequently with friends. It was my first tank game. But since the new updates, pay-to-win tanks and everything that comes with it, I prefer war thunder. We had good days wot.

[@panther-nk2hn]

Same. I have a much better time and do far better on average in War Thunder.

[@davep7589]

Well said mate. Guys like you and other popular cc's should get a bit of a say in whats good for the game and how to improve things like map design. Pretty sure a lot of you would do it for free! You're the closest thing to the player base so surely your feedback should mean something?

[@aharonswordofmagnus6721]

Ok agree with monetisation issuess. But the random events. This is great. All maps should have something like this. It really spices up the battles. Mayby something like a random bombardment or random obstacles that doesnt show of the map. Ok i know that some die hard fans are all for standarisation of EVERYTHING. But the game shouldnt look like a chess. Randomness prevents people from learning every pixel of the map (but of course they will at some point). Over all I like this change. +1 point for more arcade experience rather than competetive.

[@YTGagi83]

WoT was pay to win from the start with it gold rounds. But at the start it was somewhat ok, because you still had a slight chance as a f2p. It was hard but doable, but all the changes in he last years like bonds ect. just kept increasing the gab between the whales and the f2p players, so there are almost only whales left in he game. On a business standpoint Wargaming has what it wantet - only paying players. But if they keep up the greed they soon will have no players left at all.

[@MrTrool323]

i played the game in days of 2013-2015 and then dropped when they changed the IS-8 to something else The old days where nobody complained about Arillery which was tough to use,rewarded in big damage if you shot correctly because the shells flew quite a while not to mention the looong reload The glorious days of Waffenträger auf E 100 which could devastate you if you got too cocky...

[@boomerdoomer2137]

And the glorious battles of a 3 tier vs a 10 tier

[@mikhailvershinin2292]

It’s funny because I got so pissed of today at this game. Partially because the fun is not there anymore and because the North American server is filled with people so stupid that bots are better to play with .

[@obsidianjane4413]

WoT can't end. It makes WT look so much better, fair, and realistic.

[@canyounot7095]

"WT iS mOrE ReaLisTiC, wT is BeTtEr" 👆🤓

[@obsidianjane4413]

@@canyounot7095 Take your nick's advice.

[@canyounot7095]

@@obsidianjane4413 Nah you should take my nicks advice you diabolical dork. "It mAkEs wT loOk sO mUch BettEr FaIr And rEalIsTiC" Stfu will you? You have some urge to shit on WoT for no reason?

[@ovencore2549]

at least wt (most of the time) instead of fucking over gameplay it fucks over the grinding

[@matchedplayer979]

@@canyounot7095 war thunder is more realistic to

[@lobbyrobby]

I use to play this on a console. I don't remember the update but it was the one that totally changed the game. I uninstalled it after 1 game. I really miss years ago when I loved this game. I wish a company would make something like wot and just do a subscription fee every month. If it's a great game I'd pay 5 bucks a month

[@calincretu335]

For me Wot died when they decided to shit on game connection stability. Been trying to get back into the game for more than 1 year, every single fucking game disconnects from server few times per game. Didn't get to feel the other changes cause this made it unplayable.

[@herkload]

I was just thinking of reinstalling right now. I loved WoT back in 2016 but I quit around 2020 due to how much P2W the game had become :/

[@angrydragonslayer]

I personally saw the writing on the wall when the big LT nerf happened

[@b-17productions21]

I love playing world of tanks and most of this new update makes me sad, especially the crew update. I agree with all what you said in the video, though I am interested in the random events, and I am don't like dynamic cover. Thank you for voicing this outrage out and putting into a easy to watch video! Also, as a heavy player, watching you chew through Maus and E-100s made me cry inside lol.

[@mikaelgrande6968]

I stopped playing this game forever 2 years ago, and it looks like it’s on a steady downward trend still

[@BirTek-93]

Oh I remember my starting games in 2016. First premium was tier 6 Pudel. Met so many people, funny and toxic clans. And it slowly slipped away from me :/

[@fridaycaliforniaa236]

There still will be Warscamming practices if there still are CCs sold to Wargaming to make advertising for them. If the CCs cancel this -online scam- "game", WoT will die in less than a year.

[@DerBlobfisch122]

I loved this game. Its unplayable since 2019. I remember driving on the old province woth the T18 and making like 5-10 kills in a round.