THE TRAIN OLYMPICS: Trains Probably Shouldn't Do This

Welcome to another episode of Scrap Mechanic Multiplayer Monday! Today we are doing the Train Olympics! We must build 1 train to participate in 3 events. First is the hurdles, where trains must jump over 5 hurdles and attempt the land back on the track the fastest. Second is target shooting, where we must use a spudgun to shoot targets while standing on top of our moving train. And third is the hay bale toss, where our train must launch a hay bale at a flag, and the closest to the flag wins
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[@franghigli]

That last tie: I think that the error that comes from eyeballing where the screw goes and basically clamping the measurement to whole blocks could have caused kAN's screw to be closer, but it isn't right to assume his haybale was also closer. It can't be said which bale was closer unless you did a tiebreaker toss.

[@LoyaLPikmin]

Tie, I agree

[@cheetahman515]

I think its a tie

[@be4theend456]

Yeah, and since they're limited to the placement grid they can't actually measure the exact proximity of the bales

[@the_decoy]

Tie for, kAN and Scrapman. Moonbo takes the win (should get a bonus point for touching the Flag). Part 2 (when ever that is) could be a deciding match of some sort for second place.

[@darialaptenok9907]

It is a time, but they should just do it again and see who gets closer.

[@justinpatterson5291]

SM:MM Idea; 3 player cars. One steers, one accelerates, one has brake controls. Timed uphill sprint. Each player has a go in each position. Combination with the best time wins.

[@narcinglorenzo994]

No, i think its better with one player accelerate/brake and one player turn and the one player is trying to stop them from getting the best time

[@Gapi505]

@@narcinglorenzo994 yeah that makes more sence. Because how much do you brake in a race?(hint: wery wery little).

[@Friendly_Neighborhood_Dozer]

@@Gapi505 *very

[@Gapi505]

@@Friendly_Neighborhood_Dozer tnx

[@God-of-canine]

Give me I need this

[@maxis_scott_engie_maximov_jr]

In Multiplayer Mondays we clearly have 3 camps: kAN - efficient and simple ScrapMan - slighlty less efficient but cool looks Moonbo - if it works it's good

[@TheDawgMiner]

kAN broke form - not a brick - DQ - kappa

[@ClayInvictus]

If the screw placements had been the actual result, kAN would win. But since it was just an approximation of the haybale position you can't measure at that small scale, and it has to be a tie. Otherwise it would be like judging the long jump results based on the foot prints in the sand (not very accurate).

[@flxcle2767]

true

[@donquijote6030]

Your right

[@akunog3665]

wait.. i thought they did measure long jump based on your impression in the sand. Maybe that's just what we did in grade school with no resources hehe.

[@ClayInvictus]

@@akunog3665 That would have been something, in this day and age of sensors and cameras ;) We even had sensors when I competed in alpine skiing as kid in the 90s. TBH I don't know exactly how they measure long jump on elite level. I just tried to come up with a typical aproximative method that would break down if you try to use it too detailed.

[@Poldovico]

@@ClayInvictus it's the point of ground contact furthest back. I'm not sure if they still use the sand to measure it, but historically that has been the practice. Means you lose distance if you land and fall backwards.

[@stevenwoolridge5833]

Moonbo is the winner as he had the superior launcher and made it in one attempt, Kan and Scrapman share an admirable second place!

[@secrettunnel3026]

scrapman is 1 pixel closer

[@solidmoon8266]

Ya, but Scrapman also won the hurdles by a decent margin. So not fair to judge it all by the last event only.

[@jaunusender6166]

I wanna see another multiplayer monday YDIB, each person makes a drawing and the others build it, closest to the drawer's vision gets points (have fun with it and "Whose Line" the points to avoid a stalemate)

[@wolfware2719]

SAME HERE

[@magiksarap]

Idea suggestion:the most bumpiest ride race next multiplayer Monday

[@justinpatterson5291]

And who can do the best suspension with limited parts.

[@apersunthathasaridiculousl1890]

or most hilly race

[@Epsilons_Adventures]

They already did this 2 years ago with the floppy wheels race

[@dog6861]

Aah perfect English Pls dont get mad this is a joke

[@SentinelOfficial141]

Day 2 Stuff to make: 1.Kettenkrad 2.Antinov A-40 Flying tank 3.The Gustav 4.Zveno-SPB 5.Focke-Achgelis Fa-223 Drache

[@glauberglousger6643]

A-40 will always be one of my favorites

[@coltonarnett2491]

Love these ideas I know I am not scrap-man if I was I would chose one of theses ideas

[@justsomemustachewithoutaguy-]

Or when the scalable wedges come, he can make the strv 103!

[@apersunthathasaridiculousl1890]

yes

[@Martini278]

I hope one of these idea's will be in a video.

[@gwoonryan8665]

MM idea: try making super tiny cars with all the one block parts, and race them!

[@bow-tiedengineer4453]

cars, but you have to use the full block pipes for wheels. It's doable, if you use small pipes for the shafts.

[@fiscalgoose7664]

Can't believe how far moonbo has come with his creations compared to a year ago when Kan was explaining how to do certain things

[@apiqacani3438]

You should do a Random Battle where just like the workshop olympics, you go to the steam workshop and find a a creation that can be destroyed and battle but you cannot test it. First to two or three wins.

[@apersunthathasaridiculousl1890]

they did that before, but not with destructible stuff

[@seanward9779]

I'd love to see scrap man and kosmo race with the "1st" planes to see which is best.

[@brendanp5498]

Scrap as much as I love you and your content based on standard tie rules the points should be Moonbo - 7 Kan - 6 Scrapman - 5 So at least In my books you lost and Moonbo won. Edit As @Th3Torx pointed out I messed up in my math (he goes more indepth in his reply) meaning that the score is actually Moonbo - 7 Kan - 7 Scrap - 6 But the results technically aren't wrong because (as described by @Th3Torx) Moonbo got 2 'gold medals' and 1 'bronze medal' against Kans 1 'gold medal' and 2 'silver medals' Moonbo would still be the winner And thank you to @Th3Torx for helping me see the mistake

[@proplayerplayz]

agreed

[@apersunthathasaridiculousl1890]

yea

[@Doychin_Penev]

Yea. If first place is a tie, the next contestor is place 3rd, not 2nd. so Scrapman is 1 less point.

[@ImAdonai]

Why would Moonbo win? He had 1 point less than Kan and Scrap, so it's either 1st place Kan & Moonbo or 3 way tie. And seeing as they used whole 1x1 blocks to mark the distances it makes no sense to count tenths of the block lengths in scoring, there's obviously 0.5 block margin of error in that measurement to be taken under the account, and differences lesser than that shouldn't have any impact on the scoring. It's only fair to count that as a 3 way tie.

[@Cerulean_Frost]

I think it should be Moonbo - 7 Kan - 7 Scrapman - 6 Braking it down in placements Moonbo won 2 and lost 1 for a total of 1+3+3 Kan won 1 and placed second twice for 2+3+2 Scrapman won 1, placed second once and lost 1 for 3+1+2 Note that I skipped the second place in the shooting competition where first was a tie, as is the standard procedure in the Olympics as far as I can tell. And of course, Moonbo takes the overall victory thank to his 2 'golds'.

[@Hektical_YT]

I have a solution for the hay toss tie! When you messured that kans throw was a little bit closer to the flag you only messured it from 1 side of the block. The grip makes it vary from a different side because if it and an angle. Solution: Meassure it when it is above the pipe. That means it is in the centre of the pipe and the result wont vary from the other side.

[@bbittercoffee]

7:22 WOOOAH THAT WAS SO FREAKING COOL?!? It was like an AA Railgun or something like that! THAT WAS SO COOOOL

[@hisune_yt]

That last tie was crazy. But the kAN's train fell off the tracks after every toss, so that might be used as the tiebreaker. Since kAN's train can't stay on the track he loses and ScrapMan gets the 2nd. I think ScrapMan even said as a joke that kAN's train falling off the track at the beginning would later be taken into consideration. I guess that's what we need to do. In my opinion ScrapMan gets the 2nd place and kAN 3rd.

[@flxcle2767]

but why is moonbo 1st?

[@hisune_yt]

@@flxcle2767 Because he got a direct hit. I'm referring to the last competition.

[@flxcle2767]

@@hisune_yt oh ok

[@ICEDSummer]

Evolved to the point where trains jump

[@dr.hammersonph.d1921]

ScrapMan keeping it beyond real. Valentine's Day? Whatever, time for some train Olympics.

[@hyperdemon3462]

LOL. Love, hearts and roses? What about Shooting Targets on an Moving, Driverless Train? Hmmm, sounds like a plan.

[@yayeetmeoffacliff4708]

@@hyperdemon3462 nah, how bout he make a Valentine tank (yes there is a tank called Valentine)

[@hyperdemon3462]

@@yayeetmeoffacliff4708 Not a bad idea but it might be a tad late, maybe next year

[@yayeetmeoffacliff4708]

@@hyperdemon3462 yeah might be a tad late.

[@Vessekx]

I’m actually with ScrapMan on this one. You can’t place a block with fractional precision, so you can’t make measurements with fractional precision. The precision limit is the world’s build grid.

[@FUGP72]

Yeah, but ScrapMan cheated in the second event with the scoring. If 1st place is 3 points, 2nd is 2 points and last is 1 point, and you have a tie for first place, you don't give both first place 3 points and the last place 2. ScrapMan didn't come in second place. Two others did better than him. so he came in third. He should get 1 point. Meanwhile, the two tied don't get full 1st place points. They share the total of the 1st and second. So they each get 2.5 points. May not seem like a big difference, but the real point totals in the second event should have had Scrapman getting 1.5 points less than the other two. Not just 1 point less. So, with a final tie, that made all the difference. Even counting a tie in the final event, it should have been: 1st - Moonbo 6.5 points (1, 2.5, 3) 2nd - kAN 6 points (2, 2.5, 1.5) 3rd - Scrapman 5.5 points (3, 1, 1.5)

[@TimoCreates3D]

you guys should definitely more olympics! (i enjoyed that vid so much!)

[@ruanb2418]

Workshop hunters theme idea: dangerous

[@SneakyTogedemaru]

Seven points all around - friendship gets a win as the saying goes

[@DreadEnder]

Human ‘dwarf’ error is to blame for the last one Plus scrapmechanic has a snap grid that the bale wouldn’t have landed perfectly on Scrapman placed kans screw half under the bale but we didn’t see scrapmans screw but kan is better

[@awesomnality]

That was a really fun episode and all these ties, oh my... good job guys!

[@alexb2889]

Train Olympics, aka, chaos

[@justbreadnoroll]

Chaos indeed

[@zarek3899]

Chaos indeed

[@Martini278]

Chaos indeed

[@apersunthathasaridiculousl1890]

imagine having a bot battle arena on a train while moving

[@realOS8415]

Day 1 of asking ScrapMan to bring back the old multiplayer Monday Timelapse music for an episode.

[@danser_theplayer01]

Scrapman you can use spectator camera mod to show something like new creation or MM race.

[@nexusnova_cdiv9814]

I've been waiting all day for multi-player Monday!

[@masterep0916]

Suggestion: do one of these but every game the losers get to add a block each to the winners vehicle, I would have 5+ challenges

[@josephnicholas4221]

you guys should do a random Olympics like the workshop one but with your own creations

[@thetuanschannel4113]

Scrapman comes out with the most chaotic and weirdest ideas ever just for us. Respect to scrapman!

[@df3_legomocs]

You know that a lot of his ideas also come from the comment section but you do have a point that there’s not many repetitive idea like at all

[@thetuanschannel4113]

@@df3_legomocs I agree with you, most of his ideas are definitely inspired by the comments section.

[@roccov3614]

For the first hurdle race I would have used a whole row of tyres and put the down pins on pistons. That way if it falls off centre, the pins can start in the middle and re-centre the train as they push outwards after landing.

[@Tewfurt]

You guys should remaster the food themed vehicle race!

[@apersunthathasaridiculousl1890]

MM idea: 2 player car you’ll be on teams on two, and will build cars with only forwards and back hooked up to the seat, the only player has to use controllers to steer the vehicle while not in a seat i think i already suggested this but idk

[@harrypjoter5759]

i was waiting for multiplayer monday the whole day, good to be this early

[@simonhooha3490]

It only matters who got first position. First man on moon, ... First man to reach the summit of Mount Everest, first position in Multiplayer Monday. Both wedge gang and brick life lost, but an out of the world performance by Moonbo :D

[@Me........]

omg that ending where you measured the distance for second place... lol thats was funny

[@anonymousapproximation8549]

Trains should absolutely, 100% do this.

[@StankSoock]

yep

[@tryz0r]

Ah yes, *TrainMan*

[@clanpsi]

I feel like if there's a tie for 1st, the third person should get 3rd place. As for the winner, obviously you get a bonus point when you hit the flag.

[@FUGP72]

That is absolutely how it is done and in this case, made a huge difference. ScrapMan didn't come in second in the shooting. Two competitors finished ahead of him. So he came in 3rd. Similarly, kAN and Moobo didn't just tie for 1st. They tied for 2nd as well. So they don;t both get 3 points. The split the 1st and 2nd place points, meaning they get 2.5 points each. That turns a 3 way tie at the end into Moonbo winning by 0.5 points over kAN and Scrapman finishing 0.5 points behind kAN in 3rd. After all, in the Olympics, if two people tie for first,the next finisher doesn't get a Silver medal. They get a Bronze.

[@incop2251]

That building music rocks YEEEAAA!!!

[@sethwells6460]

MM idea yall should do wall climbing with plungers

[@trashbagsan]

Hi Scrapman! Long time watcher here Multiplayer Monday Idea: jousting with cardboard horses/cars with long spears that has a a mountable spudgun in it with sensors upfront set to 1.

[@RoyalStrudel]

Kan: I like trains me: No I like Olympics

[@RealPanzer999]

The two ties were amazing! XD Suggestion: use the cannons mod by questionable mark & equip planes with smart rocket-launchers & flares in order to do a dogfight.

[@megamike70]

A three-way tie and multiplayer monday?!? No one has ever done that in the history of -DotA- Scrap Mechanic!!!

[@callumreynolds2812]

Multilayer Monday idea, do a train race/ battle. A team challenge one person on a team of 2 builds the train and the other builds a wagon. The wagon has to be destructible and armed with a spud gun. This will be used to shoot each others wagon. Use the four villages map and at each section you have to pick up cargo and transport it. Whoever reaches the end first gets two points. And whoever has the most blocks left gets one point. Or if using destructible cargo then whoever has the most cargo left.

[@Ladyoftheroundtable]

I'll give scrapman the tie because that really is margin of error, but he still loses cuz he shoulda taken third in the shooting contest

[@irrelevantsafety]

Yeah that would be the correct score 7,7,6

[@FOXYX2.0]

workshop hunters idea :toys

[@tonywombolt6111]

I think its a 3 way tie XD, love the videos keep up the amazing work

[@thefool4492]

I think in the last game Moonbo deserves a bonus point for having his hay bale LITERALLY touching the post. Moonbo wins

[@bow-tiedengineer4453]

so, cool contest idea: making vehicles that use the full block pipes as tiny wheels. It's theoretically possible, and would be so derpy. you could also do slightly less impressive tiny wheels, like the valves, or the yellow bits from the outside warehouse piping that are two blocks wide but have a center point.

[@golett0331]

Tie for 2nd on the haybale toss. Final points: Scrapman; 7pts kAN; 7pts Moonbo; 7pts

[@FUGP72]

Even with a tie there, that is not how you handle ties. It is pretty simple whether you just understand math or sports. Every event has to give out the same points in total regardless of ties. (In this case, every event has 6 points of divide among the competors...3+2+1) Scrapman didn't come in 2nd place in the spud gun shooting. He came in 3rd. It doesn't matter that that first two competitors tied..they still BOTH beat him. It isn't as if he would have gotten a silver medal in the Olympics. When there is a tie, the two tied people share the total points for the place they are in, and the one below it. So, that event should have been kAN and Moonbo with 2.5 points and Scrapman with 1 point. And the final event should have been Moonbo with 3 points and kAN and Scrapman with 1.5 points.

[@deliberatelybadadvice722]

Three way tie with 7 points! We need a Multiplayer Monday tie breaker episode!

[@FUGP72]

Shouldn't have been though. The point system was just plain wrong. If two people tie for first place, the other person doesn't get second place points. That is ridiculous. Two competitors came ahead of ScrapMan in the spud gun event. Hence, he came in third.

[@firegamer3694]

Hey man I love your videos

[@ajschwartz3924]

3 way tie for first place is hilarious

[@FUGP72]

Also cheating since Scrapman gave himself an extra point when he came in 3rd place in the second event.

[@SecureGM]

The last one was obvious tie for the second place. There is more error from the imprecisions of bearings than what you wanted to measure there.

[@clanazawrath3051]

I think this is the quickest I have been to a scrapman video (2mins)

[@spencerbillingsley3590]

How much force would it take to make an actual locomotive jump 3 times it's own height like that... is it possible to land it without catastrophic failure?

[@irrelevantsafety]

Probably not but it'd be a spectacular sight either way

[@jacksonfunke8230]

when it was equal in the shooting thing, it was a tie where they both get 2 points, and now that there's a tie on the haybale, it should be they both get 2 points. It's also a more wholesome ending if everybody happens to win

[@FUGP72]

The shooting thing should have awarded 2.5 points to kAN and Moonbo and just 1 point for Scrapman. The two tied competitors are supposed to share the total points for 1st and 2nd. Meanwhile, Scrapman came in last...not 2nd. Similarly, on the final event, Moonbo and Scrapman should have shared 2nd and 3red place points, so they should have gotten 1.5 points each.

[@Redd72367]

YEEEEEEEEEEEEE MORE OLYMPICS maybe make a wedge olympics for a scrapman theme olympics

[@yekhant_yk]

Today my Grandpa passed away and thanks for cheering me up Scrapman! :")

[@whatwouldkealiido4819]

Tie. But if it makes Kan happy, he can take the pitty win lol

[@FUGP72]

Even counting the tie in the final event, the REAL final results would be: 1st - Moonbo 6.5 points (1, 2.5, 3) 2nd - kAN 6 points (2, 2.5, 1.5) 3rd - Scrapman 5.5 points (3, 1, 1.5) This is from how you are supposed to handle ties. After all, in the Olympics, if two competitors tie and both get Gold, the next competitor doesn't get Silver. They get Bronze. Because they came in 3rd. For a point based system, every event has 6 points to give. No more, no less. If there are ties in any position, the tied competitors share the total points for the two positions they are tied for. (Technically, a first place tie is a tie for both first and second place) So Scrapman should have gotten just 1 point for the shooting round while the others got 2.5 (sharing the 5 points awarded for 1st and 2nd). And in the final even, Scrapman and kAN share the 2nd and 3rd place points for 1.5 points each while Moonbo takes all of the 3 points for first. If you consider kAN to have taken 2nd in the hay bail toss, then the final results would be Moonbo and kAN tied for first with 6.5 points and Scrapman in third with 5 points.

[@sonnyboiii5292]

thank you for uploading on the worst day of the year

[@jickhertz4124]

Moonbo and Kan tied for the win the olympic clearly! The following placements in each round were: kan - 2, 1, 2 = 5 scrap - 1, 3, 2 = 6 moonbo- 3, 1, 1 = 5 Important note: when there is a tie, the next place skips one. So a tie for first eg. Amelia:1 Bob:1 Charlie: 3. In this game, the second round Kan and Moonbo tied for 1st, so Scrapman got 3rd; for the third round, kan and Scrapman tied for the 2nd place (as they were roughly the same point within error).

[@FUGP72]

No. Not how it is done. This was a point system where each event had 6 points to give. Any ties split the points between the two positions they are tied for. So the spud gun would have been kAN and Moonbo getting 2/5 poitns each and Scrapman getting 1. Doing this for a 2nd place tie in the last event gives a final score of Moonbo - 6.5 points, kAN - 6 points and Scrapman 5.5 points. that is how every sports league that uses a points system would have scored it.

[@butterboogieman7372]

for the spud gun targeting moonbo accidently went on the outer track instead of the inner.

[@courtneydickens146]

Love you're video's

[@AnthonyantARBY]

It is impossible to say who won 2nd place between ScrapMan and kAN without doing a tiebreaker toss due to the errors, however I think that Moonbo should be awarded 1st place for his haybale landing directly at the flag pole.

[@brashirott3813]

10:57 right after moonbo said that he’s ready I got an ad and the first thing said in the ad was “let’s go”

[@cyantasks7129]

WHY ISNT THIS CALLED THE TRAINLYMPICS

[@Maxwelliouss]

PLEASE do another workshop Olympics!!!

[@kycrend]

Scrapman, you should try recreating the sailtrain from FAR: Lone Sails in Trailmakers.

[@Poldovico]

When you're doing placement, you should base it on how many people came before you: if two people tie first place, the next one is third, not second.

[@larshoffmann2594]

Ties are solved with adding up the points of the tied and the follow up place divided by 2 and rounded down. So Moonbo and kAN ty up in the second challange with two points and Scrapman gets one. Third challenge: Moonbo 3, Scrapman and kAN 1. Final score: kAN 6, Moonbo 6, Scrapman 4.

[@FUGP72]

Why would you round down? That is absolutely NOT how ties work. It is simple...every event has to give out the same number of points in total, regardless of whether or not there are ties. You don't say "Well, there was a tie in this one, so in this event, only 5 points are awarded compared to 6 for this event." A tie for first place splits the points without any rounding. You simply have fractions of a point. 2.5 points for the first place tie, and 1 for the 3rd place finish. That way, there are still the same 6 points awarded overall.

[@pavel7950]

Suggestion: do the train Olympics in Trailmakers.

[@GarrettBHill]

Here are a few ideas: Do only mods/vanilla with a the limited amount of parts. Ex: 200 Wood blocks, 6 bearings, ext. Do a team race as a train / snake, one person builds the front, someone the middle, and the rear. Evolution: Just in Scrap Mechanic like how it was in Trailmakers.

[@Nefrea]

Pretty clear tie lol MM idea: trailmakers fpv drone racing

[@randomn4me205]

21:18 "Would you like to take your second shot to improve?"

[@Bobbyg2018]

That was fun!

[@Cosmic_Tortoise]

Three-way tie. Marker placement shouldn't decide winners since the toss target was so bulky.

[@inavers3194]

Scrapman is the best KZbinr by far keep it up

[@wait6419]

Day 14 of asking scrapman to make a colibri bird in trailmakers

[@ScAr3Cr0w0G]

I got a scrap mechanic question for you. How do you connect more than one item to the same build via weld? I keep seeing you weld certain items together but when i did it, it would only let me weld together one time. So, if i were to build a piece of concrete 4x4 and wanted to add something i connected to bearing, it would let me connect them together. How do you do that so easily?

[@r.channel5619]

scrapman's invention:The jumping train

[@Hlebuw3k]

well, technically, because of the quantum wave measurements, the light refraction was different on scrapmans measurements, making it appear slightly further.

[@PR.Impreza]

“It’s a drive by!”

[@solidmoon8266]

Ya, gonna call Kan and Scrapmans a tie. With how block orientation works, there's a margin of error that's too subtle to fairly decern one way or the other.

[@mr_ufks1634]

Hey scrapman u need to try building Voith-Schneider-Flieger 24 in trail makers Day 3

[@bsg75husker]

that stock train at the start already looks wonky instable at the wheels. is it just the graphs, or is SM a little wonky? :)

[@Twisted1409]

This is clearly what the participation award was invented for right, your all winners 😂

[@tomjohnson8099]

Do underwater cars, rules are you can leave the ground temporarily but you have to be on the ground at least once per checkpoint

[@FixItStig]

A plain race with a hard 15 minute build time exept the track is heavily off road based and possibly a really long track

[@samlaw9938]

SM:MM idea: Each person builds a long train with lots of different carriages and a train track with obstacles that pass over it, ie lights etc. You race on foot across and through the train as it speeds down the track, the first to get to the end or the last to get knocked off wins. Indiana Jones style

[@williamtyrrell794]

keep it as a 3 way tie and then roll it over to next week

[@omnirex5184]

When I saw the title and the thumbnail it actually made me laugh out loud XD

[@mid_engine_daytona1774]

The next multiplayer monday you guy should do 90s toys (car related ie. r/c cars)

[@quattro256]

Well all have 7 points. Im expecting a part 2 tiebreaker next monday😂

[@coatguards8032]

Imagine if the trains irl did these