The Traitor King

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Cambridge Development & Alumni Relations

2 жыл бұрын

11 December 1936. The King of England, Edward VIII, has given up his Crown, foregoing his duty for the love of Wallis Simpson, an American divorcée. Their courtship has been dogged by controversy and scandal, but with Edward's abdication, they can live happily ever after.
But do they? Beginning his astonishing biography at the moment most turn away, bestselling historian Andrew Lownie reveals the dramatic lives of the Windsors post-abdication. A story of a Royal shut out by his family and forced into exile; of the Nazi attempts to recruit the Duke to their cause, and why the Duke, as Governor of the Bahamas, tried to shut down the investigation into the murder of a close friend. It is a story of a couple obsessed with their status, financially exploiting their position, and manipulating the media to portray themselves as victims.
The Windsors were, in their day, the most glamorous exiles in the world, flitting from sumptuously appointed mansions in the south of France to luxurious residences in Palm Beach. But they were spoiled, selfish people, obsessed with their image and revelling in adulterous affairs. Drawing upon hitherto unexplored archives, Lownie shows how their glittering, brittle world was riddled with treachery and betrayal and why the Royal family never forgave the Duke for choosing love over duty.

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@malcolmabram2957
@malcolmabram2957 Жыл бұрын
Speaking as a PhD scientist, who knows what research means, you have done an outstanding job. This is far from a glib commentary. It has much credibility, simply because to manufacture such a thesis would take a whole lot more effort. Thank you for your contribution to history, which, as so often, there is but an escape from justice. I am persuaded that the Duke of Windsor was a thoroughly morally corrupt and indifferent man. Thank God he was not on the throne for long, and that his brother took his place.
@mariaevans5793
@mariaevans5793 Жыл бұрын
Good point !!!!🤗🇬🇧
@F_Tim1961
@F_Tim1961 Жыл бұрын
There is a story that A Blunt went to Germany post WWII to grab correspondence from the Duke /Edward to Hitler in addition to letters from Queen Viccy to her inlaws in Germany . This was something that Blunt had over the royal family when it was known that Blunt was a spy for Russia. (I am sure Blunt read every thing he got hold of and may well have transcribed it ) Only Thatcher had the balls to out Blunt. Sorry I wrote this before I saw that it is mentioned in the video.
@bwktlcn
@bwktlcn 2 жыл бұрын
While no one can know for certain what would have happened if Edward had been king during WW2, the idea of it makes me shiver. I can just see Edward and Wallis getting a copy of the Black List generated for Operation SeaLion and it being carefully reviewed and names added or removed based on whether the person was seen as favorable/unfavorable to Wallis being called HRH. Had he come back, perhaps after a bomb taking out the highest levels of the royal family during the Blitz, I can just see him enraged over Wallis’ “mistreatment” and Edward focusing on addressing perceived slights rather than his people. So, he ended up with a country of one....a woman who rapidly grew tired of him.
@michaelbowes9894
@michaelbowes9894 2 жыл бұрын
While I mostly agree, to be fair she stuck with him in his boring little life, until death.
@kategowen1156
@kategowen1156 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelbowes9894 she stuck with him like a leech. She had him to provide AND to bully.
@annec6200
@annec6200 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelbowes9894, I can’t possibly know her heart but I think she mostly "stuck" with the lifestyle & $$$ quite frankly but that just my opinion. "Gauche woman" posh expression is really code word (pun intended) for gold digger, right?
@phyllisneal8687
@phyllisneal8687 2 жыл бұрын
Me, too ‼️
@letitiadungavel2083
@letitiadungavel2083 2 жыл бұрын
@malcolmabram2957
@malcolmabram2957 Жыл бұрын
"Your highness, many are suffering and making much sacrifice in your homeland." "Yes, yes, of course, but do we have to live with the decor of this place?"
@louisetrott5532
@louisetrott5532 2 жыл бұрын
This was a fascinating presentation. As an archivist I was very pleased to hear that the writer worked from evidentialprimary sources, hurrah! I will certainly read this book and explore the writers other works.
@colonialgal1750
@colonialgal1750 2 жыл бұрын
I am a great believer in primary sources. I was chastised by a university for not using secondary sources for my WW1 essay. Why wiuld I when I had first hand exposes
@AlSmith278
@AlSmith278 2 жыл бұрын
All theses years latter I think I can say we owe a debt of thanks to Wallis Simpson for ending Edward VIII.
@thomastani749
@thomastani749 Жыл бұрын
I forget the name but there was some BBC doc on them and the best line was some historian said that given how WW2 turned out, they should put a column up for Wallis in Trafalgar Square. LOL
@NinjaGrrrl7734
@NinjaGrrrl7734 Жыл бұрын
@@thomastani749 what truly puzzles me are the documentaries that spin rainbows and fairy tales about them. No. This was a thoroughly shallow and selfish man and a woman who deserved him. They both died bad deaths, and I can't help but reflect on karma.
@kaimalino528
@kaimalino528 Жыл бұрын
Someday the British will likely owe a debt to Meghan Markle for taking Harry away, ie. instrumental in cancelling Harry.
@the0point
@the0point Жыл бұрын
Why? All the royals are the same.
@Deelitee
@Deelitee Жыл бұрын
History would not be the same,it seems to me!
@yes2day100
@yes2day100 2 жыл бұрын
Mr. Lownie is appropriately neutral and relying on only the best of sources. I like his fairness to Wallis Simpson. She was no angel - she was extremely unconventional in her relationships with men for the time, and was fairly demanding about money and "nice things" - but clearly she was made the main villain of the affair by the British at the time, whereas it is clear from Mr. Lownie's research that the Duke himself was the main villain.
@erinundra
@erinundra 2 жыл бұрын
We were well rid of him. Wallis was just an empty headed parvenu, he was a different matter altogether.
@mellie9633
@mellie9633 2 жыл бұрын
As a Brit we are very aware of Edward's short-comings and know that Wallis did not want to actually marry him she was forced into a divorce. Its also known Edward like to swing both ways much like the rumour Harry has similar proclivities...allegedly.
@CanadaKeith
@CanadaKeith 2 жыл бұрын
The both were very favourable to the Nazis. She supposedly slept repeatedly with von Ribbentrop. Both are guilty of treason to the Allies. Can't say anything good about either of them.
@NinjaGrrrl7734
@NinjaGrrrl7734 Жыл бұрын
@@mellie9633 I don't care so much about anyone's personal sexual pecadillos. Eddie the Eigth was a thoroughly worthless and contemptible specimen of any gender. Harry's story is still being written. Let's not make aspersions based on sexuality in this day and age ffs. That's homophobic af and that attitude kills.
@monalebon8016
@monalebon8016 Жыл бұрын
​@@mellie9633 well I believe this is learned behaviour,being that Charles sent much time with Dickie as a boy,then William and Harry also did when growing up. Makes one wonder. Your not born this way. It's learned behaviour. Oh good Lord help them.
@monalisa5220
@monalisa5220 2 жыл бұрын
Fascinating. Always wondered why the Queen Mother hated them so much. This explains everything. I remember news reports of them coming to New York with scores of suitcases and also their reputation as users and free loaders.
@Frptlinyy
@Frptlinyy Жыл бұрын
Years ago I read an article of somebody who never cashed the checks that the Duke wrote, hoping they would become collectors items and they could sell them at a later time. In my mind’s eye I think I remember a check that was signed Edward.
@thomastani749
@thomastani749 Жыл бұрын
I think the Queen Mother blamed Edward for in effect "killing" her husband. George VI was a heavy smoker and not in the best of health and the stress of the abdication, leading the country during WW2, and learning what a traitorous bastard his older brother was big reason he passed away so young.
@NinjaGrrrl7734
@NinjaGrrrl7734 Жыл бұрын
It was easier than hating her worthless son. I mean, she didn't like him much, but she didn't have to hate him quite as badly with blame to share. There was plenty to go around.
@wallyjansen898
@wallyjansen898 2 жыл бұрын
Mr. Lownie has painted a portrait of Edward Windsor that's a real eye-opener. I'm certainly buying his book.
@ChristyChristoffersen
@ChristyChristoffersen 2 жыл бұрын
I just finished this audiobook and it absolutely blew my mind! I am going to have to listen to it again!
@racheldemain1940
@racheldemain1940 2 жыл бұрын
What is the title?
@mortalclown3812
@mortalclown3812 Жыл бұрын
@@racheldemain1940 See video description' Traitor King.
@NinjaGrrrl7734
@NinjaGrrrl7734 Жыл бұрын
@@mortalclown3812 people like you are the best of us all. Thank you for existing.
@craykanne
@craykanne 2 жыл бұрын
If you want to know the truth about Edward and Wallis, I urge you to buy Andrew Lownie's book. Mr Lownie speaks the unvarnished facts about two horrible people.
@brianperry
@brianperry 2 жыл бұрын
Also watch 'Edward the Traitor King' made a few years ago, a great deal of achieve film available plus narrative by those in the know... The royal family were not just annoyed at his behaviour... but worried he could bring them down if found out. The fact that their name was changed from Sax Coburg to Windsor shows just how sensitive they were with the German connection.... Remember quite a few of the aristocracy and the right wing daily mail were supporters of the nazi regime and were complicit in 'hushing' Edwards behaviour up....
@corryjookit7818
@corryjookit7818 2 жыл бұрын
#ClaudiaKanne I won't need to buy the book as you've just summed it up, using those last three words.
@mortalclown3812
@mortalclown3812 Жыл бұрын
@@corryjookit7818 Do you have any books on your shelves?
@gerardleahy6946
@gerardleahy6946 Жыл бұрын
The British Royal Family owe Wallis Simpson a huge debt of gratitude as she was the catalyst which enabled this man's removal from the throne. It is difficult to imagine a more disreputable character. He was a sponger, philanderer, user, and apparent insurance fraudster. He supported the most obnoxious regime the world has ever known and was prepared to countenance the invasion of his own country by Hitler's murderous thugs. That is what would likely have happened eventually had the US not entered the war. It is believed the Germans would have installed him as a puppet king. He blackmailed his country into giving him luxury when its very existence was under threat.
@haydenwayne3710
@haydenwayne3710 2 жыл бұрын
My father was a musician who performed in some of the most important rooms in New York City. The Windsors attended on different occasions. My father said he was very timid, completely dominated by Wallace. There was one engagement my father performed, he later learned the Windsors were paid five thousand dollars to attend.
@icebergrose8955
@icebergrose8955 Жыл бұрын
I heard a lot of their wealthy friends picked up the tab for their American hotel stays. They were always on the make. The Duke traded currency during WW2 which was highly illegal. I'll bet your father had some great stories about all the best people.
@Taluta394
@Taluta394 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like Prince Harry
@benaffleckisanokayactor
@benaffleckisanokayactor Жыл бұрын
Wow, thanks for sharing
@mulemule
@mulemule Жыл бұрын
"Megxit" inked a multimillion dollar deal with Netflix so at least *some* royal traditions have remained sacred.
@forsakenjones4695
@forsakenjones4695 Жыл бұрын
Always blaming the woman...
@robertreynolds6072
@robertreynolds6072 2 жыл бұрын
Boothby gave an amusing description of Mrs Simpson playing cards. Her partner declared "I have four kings!" to which she replied, (allegedly), "what use are they? They only abdicate!"
@el_aleman
@el_aleman 2 жыл бұрын
Ouch !
@raydavison4288
@raydavison4288 2 жыл бұрын
Wallis Simpson was the "Yoko Ono" of the 1930s.
@partlycloudy3519
@partlycloudy3519 7 ай бұрын
As is Meghan of 2018
@ryandavid4906
@ryandavid4906 2 жыл бұрын
This is excellent! Really enjoyed all the info and pictures.
@michaeltroster9059
@michaeltroster9059 2 жыл бұрын
The Royals always were great spongers and that includes the present family. The Windsors are obscenely wealthy and until relatively recently they paid no taxes.
@LouLou10000
@LouLou10000 2 жыл бұрын
Mayby that's the real reason he was sent into exile. I don't think the queen gave him permission to come back to the UK ever.
@j.goodwin9908
@j.goodwin9908 2 жыл бұрын
He was invited back at least once for the unveiling of a memorial to his mother, Queen Mary. You can watch it on KZbin.
@duderino1950
@duderino1950 2 жыл бұрын
This is exactly the reason he was exiled. The Family didn’t care one whit about the marriage. But they knew damn well Edward was guilty of treason and if he set foot back in England, Churchill and others would have made the whole story public, leading to a trial, probable conviction, and probable execution.
@christinesbetterknitting4533
@christinesbetterknitting4533 2 жыл бұрын
He did return for several.visits after WW2. He did not bring Wallis to see his family, though.
@rosiegreen813
@rosiegreen813 2 жыл бұрын
Having read the book, he did attend funerals over here
@mortalclown3812
@mortalclown3812 Жыл бұрын
@@duderino1950 It never would have gotten to that; the collective vested interest in the monarchy is so immense that it reaches across both aisles of politics. There is a reason the Russian royal cousins were allowed to perish while the "Windsors" spun straw into gold. The powers that be hold it - royalty - sacred even though the great majority does not. PS Churchill was a devout monarchist, too; he realized the extent of Edward VIII's wretchedness for decades.
@Listenerandlearner870
@Listenerandlearner870 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation.
@greedyfirstalgorithmlast26
@greedyfirstalgorithmlast26 2 жыл бұрын
Ah the Waldorf Astoria Hotel! My Grandmother lived there in 1930,s She worked for US Army as a Recreational Agent to get Movie Stars and Jazz Musicians to Play to Troops world wide. She has Huge Photo Albums with Photos of Famous People, she was a Bernays, by Marriage the family of Sigmund Freud, wife Anne Bernays in Hamburg, Germany.
@michaelconnor8319
@michaelconnor8319 2 жыл бұрын
Delighted to review new material that has been well researched.
@Terri_Hugs
@Terri_Hugs 2 жыл бұрын
Who ever said he would make an unstable King were correct!
@thomastani749
@thomastani749 Жыл бұрын
His own father King George V said he "would ruin himself in a year." He was right on the nose as it turns out.
@peggyh4805
@peggyh4805 2 жыл бұрын
He had no redeeming qualities.
@notremembering
@notremembering 2 жыл бұрын
Wonderful presentation, thanks so much, very eye opening and your parallels were interesting and intriguing….
@ilenestauch5973
@ilenestauch5973 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic info and photographs! Never heard many connective facts in this video before.
@szendrich
@szendrich 2 жыл бұрын
I found this extremely fascinating. Many thanks.
@modfus
@modfus 2 жыл бұрын
According to recent findings, it would appear that Wallace was more or less forced into divorcing her husband (Ernest Simpson), whom she obviously still loved, and married the Duke soon afterward. This requires more investigation because it does bring up the suspicion that the marriage may have been forced on both of them as a 'sympathetic and compassionate' reason for the King's abdication - rather than the truth (with serious implications) that both Wallace and the Duke were guilty of serious crimes.
@samueljanderson
@samueljanderson 2 жыл бұрын
Well done, sir! Your work is an absolutely outstanding historical research professor. Thank you.
@Vic35102
@Vic35102 2 жыл бұрын
After I read this book I just felt stick sick to my stomach thought David could ever betray his brother
@mortalclown3812
@mortalclown3812 Жыл бұрын
... and an entire nation.
@amandamorton-king2112
@amandamorton-king2112 2 жыл бұрын
Really really enjoyed this video; will certainly now buy this important book.
@sandrayule2383
@sandrayule2383 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing has changed the royals are still dealing with these type of people and nothing is done about it !!
@mortalclown3812
@mortalclown3812 Жыл бұрын
They don't just deal with these kind of people; they ARE this kind of people.
@sweettina2
@sweettina2 2 жыл бұрын
I love this author, he reports it as he finds it.
@zarathustra007
@zarathustra007 Жыл бұрын
Excellent documentary!
@Midgiemoon
@Midgiemoon 7 ай бұрын
I thoroughly enjoyed this book. Your writing h is both meticulous and relatable. Congratulations on this triumphant work!
@gijsvandergugten9127
@gijsvandergugten9127 Жыл бұрын
Very informative and interesting, thank you for this.
@achord9204
@achord9204 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@JT-dn1id
@JT-dn1id Жыл бұрын
I'm half-way through your book and it's really informative, like this talk. Thank you.
@janeshipley6993
@janeshipley6993 Жыл бұрын
thank you so much for this!
@carolinebarnes6832
@carolinebarnes6832 2 жыл бұрын
It seems they deserved each other.
@carolempluckrose4188
@carolempluckrose4188 2 жыл бұрын
Really interesting. Thank you.
@kristinix9335
@kristinix9335 Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed your presentation and learning more about the former king's activities during WW2 and afterward. I was unaware of his ties to Hilter and the Nazi's until it was mentioned during the Netflix series: The Crown, which I assumed was not entirely accurate and have been seeking facts online etc. As for why your book may not have been covered by the print media as much as in the past, I'll admit many newsrooms are very somewhat political and editors can be difficult and fickle. There are likely several news organization who would ignore certain books for whatever reason and/or not be inspired to assign books reviews based on the topic. However, I'd also argue what was made public by the Netflix series may have created a larger demand for information among online readers such as myself. But speaking as a (now freelance) journalist formerly a fulltime newspaper staff reporter who was laid off during covid, I'd also point out that covid hit revenues of many newspapers very hard and aggravated the downward spiral of many. As so many readers were at home, online and able to read the news for free generally bypassing paywall revenues in addition to reduced print ad sales revenues as businesses scaled back their already shrinking ad dollars, many media organizations laid off newsroom staff. Thus, there just aren't as many reporters to write reviews these days. Secondly, those that remain are often shackled by quotas that require writers to file anywhere between 2 to ten stories a day for online and reading an entire book for one article just isn't practical in many cases. Regardless, great information and thanks for posting this video.
@clarkewi
@clarkewi 2 жыл бұрын
They were Nazis
@jilltagmorris
@jilltagmorris 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for your hard work!
@alicat1958
@alicat1958 22 күн бұрын
Andrew, I am thrilled to find this video. I've heard several book reviews but seeing all the photos that went along with the book made it come alive. Thank you for all your hard work and research! I alswatched your Mountbatten video. Excellent!! BTW Shauna with Vintage Read Show turned me on to your books. I enjoyed her on your Scandel Mongral Show. ❤
@NuLiForm
@NuLiForm 4 ай бұрын
Great video, Thank You! This is the history my father taught me in the 60's & 70's....much to the anger of the rest of the family & school teachers. i told him not to worry because i believed him. It Fit all the weird things everyone else was ignoring. & dad's demeanor when speaking on it was solemn & sad.....dad was an SS Hunter, traveling around the world on his motorcycle tracking them down even for several years after the war officially ended. When he saw Operation Paperclip..he was crushed...& said this: "That's why the orders changed from kill on sight to take alive.....so..it was all for Nothing." & he was right on that too. i learned at a very early age...nothing in this world is ever what it seems to be.
@nancymcgee4776
@nancymcgee4776 2 жыл бұрын
This is some very fascinating stuff!
@johnkennedy1242
@johnkennedy1242 2 жыл бұрын
Great work ...
@soloperformer5598
@soloperformer5598 2 жыл бұрын
Hardly surprising as he was principally German and it was only his father who had Anglicized the family name from it's German origins to make it more palatable to the British people.
@johnnydawson7675
@johnnydawson7675 2 жыл бұрын
Royal families are the absolute worst example of nepotism.
@dianeshelton9592
@dianeshelton9592 2 жыл бұрын
However the mount battens had been British kings and queens for a century. The various royal families of Europe were all interbred
@elizabethm888
@elizabethm888 2 жыл бұрын
Mountbatten was the Anglican of the German battenberg. Neither king George V or Queen Mary ever lived in Germany, even though they were both of German extraction. Mary was born in kensington palace in the same room Queen Victoria was born in. Her family lived there, until they scuttled to Spain because of debt. Eventually Victoria paid their debt and the family moved back to kensington.
@suzyukla
@suzyukla Жыл бұрын
you need to write about how mentally abusive Queen Victoria was with her kids
@greedyfirstalgorithmlast26
@greedyfirstalgorithmlast26 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely Stunning presentation, I hope your book is available on Audiobooks as I am 73 Years old and bad eyes, cannot read from books. I therefore rely on Amazon Audiobooks.
@el_aleman
@el_aleman 2 жыл бұрын
From Simon & Schuster’s website: “ it is a story of a couple obsessed with their status, financially exploiting their position, all the while manipulating the media to portray themselves as victims”…..Wow: does this sound familiar today?
@elizabethm888
@elizabethm888 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely. However Wallis had the good sense not to portray herself as a global humanitarian. She also had the sense not to hypocritically lecture the world on lifestyles. Meghan, not so much! Also, not so smart. Harry and his wife have blatantly LIED repeatedly! The Archbishop of Canterbury had to make a public statement because in their attempt to seem "righteously rebellious against the against the monarchy" They basically accused him of a crime!!!
@maggiesays7827
@maggiesays7827 Жыл бұрын
Except this time there are a lot of Russian and Middle Eastern ties on the wife's part. Those yacht days must have been exciting!
@SymphonyBrahms
@SymphonyBrahms Жыл бұрын
I don't believe that a Church of England vicar would marry them, since she was divorced.
@johnnicholson956
@johnnicholson956 Жыл бұрын
Well one did, as a matter of historical fact, whatever you believe.
@willtricks9432
@willtricks9432 2 жыл бұрын
The Abramovich connection is timely. Great review of a terrible man. Cheers
@gabyv8
@gabyv8 2 жыл бұрын
When will this book go on Audible?
@cjhiggins3803
@cjhiggins3803 2 жыл бұрын
During the Blitz, Buckingham Palace was struck by Nazi bombs , just image the Dukes reaction , I doubt he was upset for his family.
@julesb3430
@julesb3430 2 жыл бұрын
Games are still being played...
@cherylcallahan5402
@cherylcallahan5402 2 жыл бұрын
*Wallis Simpson and Edward Traitor 🤴king appreciate your readings Listening 📚 From Mass USA TYVM 💙*
@racheldemain1940
@racheldemain1940 2 жыл бұрын
What is the Book called please?. Sounds really interesting . i always thought it was darker underneath the "King Gives up his Crown" love story.
@valkyriesardo278
@valkyriesardo278 2 жыл бұрын
"Harry the Hanover" I like it. I've heard the Burtons were guests of the Windsors in their home and that Richard said of Wallis that "She is the most vulgar woman I have ever met." To me that is a case of the pot calling the kettle black.
@philroberts7238
@philroberts7238 2 жыл бұрын
Perhaps, therefore, a pot which knew whereof it spoke.
@gejost
@gejost 2 жыл бұрын
Bit silly to pretend any of the Royal Family aren't "Hanoverian". I suppose, if you are strictly paternalistic, the house Albert came from was what they were. The current would of course be whatever house Philip really was. One would have to trace back to a prince andrew of Denmark as his relationship to the current Royal family also went through maternal lineages.
@saintexupery8406
@saintexupery8406 2 жыл бұрын
Couldn't wait to post your anti-Burton "wittisism," based on something you "heard," could you?
@corryjookit7818
@corryjookit7818 2 жыл бұрын
Richard Burton was a great actor, leave him to rest in peace.
@mirelairinapetre6503
@mirelairinapetre6503 2 жыл бұрын
They carried their missery,unhappiness and frustrations all over their villas! I prefer to be happy in a small courage! Miserable existance!
@Mrrossj01
@Mrrossj01 6 ай бұрын
He took all the monies that were supposed to be the King’s when he left. My understanding is that it amounted to $200 million in today’s money, with no income tax, which included the Royal Family.
@holisticivory
@holisticivory 2 жыл бұрын
The photo at 3.11 is not Wallis's second marriage to Ernest Simpson, it is their court presentation photo. Wallis and Ernest were married at Chelsea Register Office in London. She wore a bright yellow dress with a blue coat.
@alextsingos
@alextsingos 2 жыл бұрын
He preferred to not forget who he is than to pretend who he isnt, taking in consideration the last name of your royal family before they become Windsor. What your book made me think is why Roudolph Hess stayed in total isolation at Spandau Prison!!!
@iancurtis1152
@iancurtis1152 2 жыл бұрын
Sheets ironed twice a day?
@tracyhodgkins7516
@tracyhodgkins7516 6 ай бұрын
The book is well worth reading. I have it and it’s excellent and very well researched.
@joannethomas5729
@joannethomas5729 2 жыл бұрын
I have ordered this book. I was fascinated by the reviews and how some of the things people say parallel the two ingrates who are tormenting the Royals.
@maggiesays7827
@maggiesays7827 Жыл бұрын
Did you enjoy it?
@annaphillips7120
@annaphillips7120 4 ай бұрын
It was a treat to listen to you disseminate the chapters and give your insights into this book. If only you had been around years ago to tell “your side of the story” maybe we would had the smarts to become a republic, and wipe the slate clean of all the phoney “king and country” BS
@johnmckenna3937
@johnmckenna3937 2 жыл бұрын
but did I miss reference to Wallace’s ‘relationship’ with Ribbentrop ?
@johnmckenna3937
@johnmckenna3937 2 жыл бұрын
sorry Wallis
@yes2day100
@yes2day100 2 жыл бұрын
He spoke of it, but said he could find no primary source evidence of a 'relationship' and that at least the 17 carnations per day part of the story was most likely apocryphal because they met fewer than 17 times.
@sweettina2
@sweettina2 2 жыл бұрын
3:51 he speaks of it.
@christinesbetterknitting4533
@christinesbetterknitting4533 2 жыл бұрын
@@yes2day100 18 roses*
@vickyrushton1783
@vickyrushton1783 2 жыл бұрын
My god this could be Harry’s story!!! Fascinating thank you
@tonikeep4420
@tonikeep4420 2 жыл бұрын
History repeating.i think H&M are actually worse.awful people.
@eshiestrik2756
@eshiestrik2756 2 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly
@maggiesays7827
@maggiesays7827 Жыл бұрын
@@tonikeep4420 I wonder if this is why he's going back to the UK for 6 months and if they will need to deprogram him.
@thomastani749
@thomastani749 Жыл бұрын
I think Harry may be immature, but he is no traitor and he served honorably in the military.
@spinozareader
@spinozareader Жыл бұрын
@@thomastani749 Thank you.
@maggiesmith9083
@maggiesmith9083 2 жыл бұрын
5:45 Mr. Lonnie sounds like he said Dianna didn’t want to be alone with the Prince? Am I mishearing this?
@d.gillis9660
@d.gillis9660 2 жыл бұрын
This was very interesting and I'm thinking your book may get more attention after the Queen is gone she is what 95 now about.
@edgaraquino2324
@edgaraquino2324 2 жыл бұрын
An excellent program...thanks! I think folks think that the RF had their wealth supplied to them, which is not the case...they are a long royal family line dating back at least 1000 years...the UK was just that for hundreds of years before the Magna Carta...I am not British, but I believe they receive monies from the government as the Queen is head of state and the RF have duties that call for them to represent "Queen and Country"...the present situation is history repeating itself...in both cases, the Queen and the RF are the object of personal and institutional attack...as I understand it, the author says that the Duke wanted to "have his cake and eat it too". He wanted "respect" for WS and the Crown back as well...since they both appear to be pro-Nazi, they could kill two birds with one stone by helping the Germans win & they would get the Crown and possibly revenge...this would explain the two main reasons why the Queen and the government wanted them kept out of the UK - the first being the couple's provable traitorous activities and second, the Queen's belief that her father might have lived longer if her uncle had not abdicated...WS had no choice but to accept her lot in life; which was not what she wanted - she wanted to be Queen with all the perks and as a consequence, she perhaps made the lives of the Duke and herself most uncomfortable as a result...they were considered to be a most unpleasant couple as they thought that life centered around them and nobody else...
@XiOjala
@XiOjala 2 жыл бұрын
Next!
@michaelbowes9894
@michaelbowes9894 2 жыл бұрын
I think he was very popular among the 'working classes' and said to be concerned for the plight of the poor, and it was widely believed in Britain that the 'upper Classes' had conspired to get him out because of it; which would have caused un-needed controversy at the time.
@brianforbes8325
@brianforbes8325 2 жыл бұрын
And yet, Michael Bowes, his lifestyle was so removed from the working classes that he really did not show much affinity for them for the duration of his life. Maybe a little charity here and there, but nothing consequential. I think you're just repeating a conspiracy theory.
@CelticMorning
@CelticMorning 2 жыл бұрын
Is this one of the reasons this man was forced out? A threat to the aristocracy, royalty and a threat to the establishment?
@Inkling777
@Inkling777 Жыл бұрын
I suspect the opposite was true. He felt threatened by his peers, who knew he was a wuss, so he faked an interest in the working poor. In his high-class ramblings after his abdication he certainly didn't display any interest in the unfortunate, least of all the persecuted Jews of Germany.
@ruthmeb
@ruthmeb Жыл бұрын
@@CelticMorning No, it just shows how some people prefer myths to reality. Then AND now.
@harrymarsee1872
@harrymarsee1872 2 жыл бұрын
Can someone tell me the difference between Edwards actions (seeing a married woman) and Charles' actions (seeing a married woman)?
@jimdaw65
@jimdaw65 2 жыл бұрын
About seventy years.
@maggiesays7827
@maggiesays7827 Жыл бұрын
It was accepted back then as long as the wife stayed with her husband.
@thomastani749
@thomastani749 Жыл бұрын
Well, Charles never abdicated his title or betrayed his country. Will that do?
@mortalclown3812
@mortalclown3812 Жыл бұрын
Gossipy biddies still keep score.
@goojedooje660
@goojedooje660 2 жыл бұрын
What about Edward talking to hitler at Dunkirk 1940 telling him to hold his tanks and troops for three days letting them escape this is still secret
@hjander
@hjander 2 жыл бұрын
Mr. Lownie is the real deal - all of his research is based upon primary sources.
@operationgoldfish8331
@operationgoldfish8331 2 жыл бұрын
Why did I click on this thinking it would be a political exposé of Boris Johnson?
@TSmith-ov1cg
@TSmith-ov1cg Жыл бұрын
They were 2 wretched people
@karensimpson4869
@karensimpson4869 2 жыл бұрын
This isn’t anything new I have listened to other documentaries and books on this subject. I thought it was common knowledge
@anattcherikover4936
@anattcherikover4936 2 жыл бұрын
Quite. There was a similar Channel 4 documentary in 1995, even with a nearly identical title "Edward VIII: The Traitor King". However, to judge by the above video, the new book has more material.
@angelicar451
@angelicar451 Жыл бұрын
Wallis became famous only because the duke married her. If he hadn’t nobody would have ever known her.
@el_aleman
@el_aleman Жыл бұрын
Exploiting the royal brand for personal gain ? Deja vu
@gordonski9310
@gordonski9310 2 жыл бұрын
I hope Mr Downie includes the true background of Ernest Salomon as this has a great bearing on their marriage and to her relationship with "the little man" ?
@frankporter6169
@frankporter6169 2 жыл бұрын
Only 445 views?
@j.goodwin9908
@j.goodwin9908 2 жыл бұрын
24,371 according to the counter under the title.
@pbohearn
@pbohearn 8 ай бұрын
If nothing else, Wallis was quite a fashion plate and kept her figure.
@barbaras2669
@barbaras2669 Жыл бұрын
Since Edward the 8th abdicated, he was no longer king. He could be a traitor duke, but not a traitor king.
@carolinecollett4349
@carolinecollett4349 2 жыл бұрын
The Duke wanted world peace and today I hear Harry Windsor saying at the Invictus Games that he wants to make the world safe for his kids. Such similarities.
@mortalclown3812
@mortalclown3812 Жыл бұрын
I don't think Harry is a Nazi dreaming of restored power. I just think he wed an opportunist
@Wanamaker1946
@Wanamaker1946 2 жыл бұрын
Are we sure David wasn’t gĀ? (Sorry, there are some words we can’t write correctly). His women may’ve just been beard’s. He and Wallis were never going to sire children..as she was to old.
@mortalclown3812
@mortalclown3812 Жыл бұрын
Your implications say so much more about yourself than anyone in this video; the 'track record' of this particular infamous person indicates that he liked to be sexually dominated by females. That doesn't mean he's closeted.
@noobiedooby26
@noobiedooby26 Жыл бұрын
I dont understand how a King do this? Being King is not enough?
@ecalose6785
@ecalose6785 Жыл бұрын
Dachau built 1933, Buchenwald 1937, Aushwitz 1940. The Duke must have missed this. Jesus, shocking, just shocking that he aligned himself AT ALL.
@chrissygeorge9316
@chrissygeorge9316 2 жыл бұрын
446🥂
@j.goodwin9908
@j.goodwin9908 2 жыл бұрын
446 are “likes” not views---
@deanbryan1183
@deanbryan1183 8 ай бұрын
Should of faced a charge of treason
@The8224sm
@The8224sm Жыл бұрын
In Australia, we call the Royal Family, Koalas, a protected species. If only the Last Will and Testaments of the Royal Family were made public, as every other person in the UK, we could see how they move millions of pounds and valuable artifacts around among themselves, to avoid scrutiny. On a jocular note, with the passing of her majesty, I will miss those occasions when she would be performing the opening of something or other, and commerce the speech with the classic line, "It gives my husband and I great pleasure, as I'm sure it does you" on this auspicious occasion, Blah, Blah, Blah, etc.
@ralphl7643
@ralphl7643 8 ай бұрын
A good part of their value are the predictability and inoffensiveness, which are also boring.
@david1321riding
@david1321riding 2 жыл бұрын
Next…
@daisyroots8926
@daisyroots8926 Жыл бұрын
That drive me crazy… does the man not own a mouse?????
@geordiedog1749
@geordiedog1749 10 ай бұрын
Justice?
@kylejackson1392
@kylejackson1392 2 жыл бұрын
Too many secrets . They just don't want the truth to fully come out. The question now is, is Harry & Megan becoming the next Edward VII ?
@mortalclown3812
@mortalclown3812 Жыл бұрын
Bwwwaaahh. Nice try, but it shows that you read far less than you watch TV.
@Rancid_One
@Rancid_One 2 жыл бұрын
How can we leave out the current Heir Apparent and his sordid friendship with his chums Sir Jimmy Saville and Sir Rolf Harris ?
@scouserontour9971
@scouserontour9971 2 жыл бұрын
Tbf a lot of people were taken in by that pair. Jimmy Saville to me as a child was creepy but appeared to do a lot for charities. Rolf Harris imagine was more protected by the fact he was a family man. Unfortunately these people dont come with paedophile tattooed on their forehead. Gut feelings may raise doubts but not necessarily evidence.
@CelticMorning
@CelticMorning 2 жыл бұрын
Royalty , of course, is riddled with perverts.
@mortalclown3812
@mortalclown3812 Жыл бұрын
But the powers that be in the UK will insist the monarchy continue. Something that old isn't euthanized on a whim.
@richardt.buryan832
@richardt.buryan832 2 жыл бұрын
TRAITOR INDEED.
@Lindleyferchel
@Lindleyferchel Жыл бұрын
Oh no! Germans everywhere! Love those lederhosen on him and the whole outfit 😮(I mean the uniform)
@Pinzpilot101
@Pinzpilot101 2 жыл бұрын
And now for Harry and Meggy, the Hollywood shine has worn off and the money is not pouring in as it was.....So where can we get Free Money....ah yes the mug punters in UK, so let's go home and really take the Mickey....one duty a month - chosen by us of course - and Party party at our expense.
@bertharuiz1225
@bertharuiz1225 2 жыл бұрын
But this king was mistreated by his American wife! Is this not a fact? I fell sorry for him.
@mortalclown3812
@mortalclown3812 Жыл бұрын
Did you not listen to any of this particular talk or read the book?
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