The trance gate technique (like Ross from Friends, Bicep, Max Cooper and Moderat)

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Underdog Electronic Music School

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@OscarUnderdog
@OscarUnderdog 3 жыл бұрын
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@ChilledVid
@ChilledVid 3 жыл бұрын
This man is a legend, He gives us free lessons in which he could take hundreds of dollars from each student, best of luck for you.
@DirektorVadim
@DirektorVadim 3 жыл бұрын
I'm very impressed with these tutorials, even though the channel is so small, the quality and detail of these lessons are next level.. Thank you
@OscarUnderdog
@OscarUnderdog 3 жыл бұрын
I hope so! Spread the word 😁🙏
@DirektorVadim
@DirektorVadim 3 жыл бұрын
@@OscarUnderdog i will, definitely
@biggiesmartypants
@biggiesmartypants 3 жыл бұрын
It's not small, just on its way to 1 million subscribers 😁
@YaceYoung
@YaceYoung 3 жыл бұрын
You call this small?? 😬
@iosmusicman
@iosmusicman 3 жыл бұрын
I think Darius must have misread the number of subscribers. If close to 100K subs is small, there’s little hope for most youtubers just staring out!
@billB101
@billB101 3 жыл бұрын
Another way is to sidechain the gate using a hi-hat on a midi channel then you just program the trigger rhythm into the hi hat pattern, gives you a lot more control than triggering with an audio track. You can also physically play in the trigger part in this way. Been using this technique with physical gates ( and their key input ) over pad sounds and vocals since the 90's in dance music. The Camelspace VST has a trance gate preset that allows you to do this automatically too.
@blasborg
@blasborg 2 жыл бұрын
this is a really good pt, thank you!!
@bornhager
@bornhager Жыл бұрын
Is it free?
@JanGotner
@JanGotner Жыл бұрын
Omg YES I finally learned the name and understood the fundamental part of my favourite electronic music genre - trance - thank you SO much !
@alessandrobraz9961
@alessandrobraz9961 3 жыл бұрын
Wow my mind is blown how simple this is, can't find tips like this from other places
@yahordulevich1055
@yahordulevich1055 Жыл бұрын
After watching Ableton turtorials for several years it`s rather hard to find new techniques, most of the content repeats itself. At this channel each video contains super useful information. Massive respect!
@thesiren6620
@thesiren6620 3 жыл бұрын
We used to do this the oldskool way, volume flipping on protracker by manually typing the volume of the channel, it used to be a lot of work. 64 entries for every pattern.
@reggiep75
@reggiep75 3 жыл бұрын
Yep the old skool way offered a fair amount of control and I remember doing this on OctaMED back in the early 90's.
@Arbitrarynamehere
@Arbitrarynamehere 3 жыл бұрын
40-10-40-10-404040-10. Rah!
@RussArteaga
@RussArteaga 3 жыл бұрын
No disrespect but before trackers we used actual gates triggered by drum machine hi hat outputs. Really old skool!
@joelgrip3648
@joelgrip3648 3 жыл бұрын
Did that in Fasttracker! Don´t exactly miss those times but sometimes you got some interesting results...
@nrXic
@nrXic 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I've always preferred how it's done in trackers and I wish there was a VST effect that did it in a similar fashion. Or it could be triggered with MIDI notes instead of a sound.
@cockur
@cockur 3 жыл бұрын
Love this effect. Top Tip: if you want to do this really quickly you can use AutoPan in Tremolo mode (Saw wave works best) and set Phase = 0. You have less control over the rhythm and shape of the gating but it works well as a quick substitute. Plus you can reverse the Saw to get a Ramp reverse type sound.
@easytoassemble54321
@easytoassemble54321 3 жыл бұрын
I've just bought a Boss SL-20 Slicer pedal, which essentially does this. It's got MIDI for clocking, stereo in/out, and a variety of slicing patterns and stereo panning effects. A great tool for anyone looking to do this DAWLESS.
@thesucculentcity
@thesucculentcity 6 ай бұрын
You can’t easily make custom patterns on the slicer, though
@Squidy666
@Squidy666 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! As a metalhead trying to learn electronic music this stuff blows my mind. Thanks for breaking it down so I can follow along :)
@osmark86
@osmark86 2 жыл бұрын
the way you break down techniques into the basics of what, how and why is just great. you're a wonderful teacher.
@spaaske
@spaaske 3 жыл бұрын
For most of this, an LFO mapped to a synth's master volume would work a bit faster, and depending on the synth can provide control over more interesting shapes.
@urphakeandgey6308
@urphakeandgey6308 3 жыл бұрын
Even Grossbeat has some decent trancegate presets built right in. That's definitely the easier route, though I'm sure doing it this way would provide more control in certain applications.
@kingburgerkiler
@kingburgerkiler 3 жыл бұрын
Yep, Serums LFO Tool is the easiest and the best way to do this.
@jamie.goodson
@jamie.goodson Жыл бұрын
LFO only provides a constant rhythm though (eg 1/4 or 1/8) - you can’t give it a groove (unless you use a lot of automation, but at that point it’s easier to just use a gate with a drum pattern like in this vid)
@spaaske
@spaaske Жыл бұрын
@@jamie.goodson you might wanna check out synths like Serum where the LFO is highly customizable.
@cosmicfrequency5887
@cosmicfrequency5887 3 жыл бұрын
Nice technique. I have used LFO tool and Gatekeeper to do the same thing but I can see that the ability to automate the release time and/or use a triple note bassline as the trigger would be pretty useful.
@OscarUnderdog
@OscarUnderdog 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah it sets you up to get a bit playful with it!
@distortimus7631
@distortimus7631 3 жыл бұрын
I've been sick for a couple of days and all I've been watching were your videos. So much quality knowledge to use later on in my production. Thanks.
@mrburnout
@mrburnout 3 жыл бұрын
I don't even like/know the artists that you always mention but the information I'm learning from your content seems to transcend genre, love to see it
@Fractalite
@Fractalite 3 жыл бұрын
Great video . I used to create gates with an Alesis Compressor /limiter that had a trigger for the gate which you'd feed in a high hat or something . This gating effect became very dated sounding by 1995 IMHO but I'm sure kids who weren't even born then would think it pretty fresh .
@OscarUnderdog
@OscarUnderdog 3 жыл бұрын
It's all going in circles 😁
@JakkeJakobsen
@JakkeJakobsen 3 жыл бұрын
Wildstylez seems to use it in Exist, just listen to the intro and you'll hear it. Circles indeed!
@minreculiao2428
@minreculiao2428 2 жыл бұрын
the knowledge this person offers is unbelievable
@RR-ok4wz
@RR-ok4wz 2 жыл бұрын
My god. I’ve been wondering how to do this since I was a kid. Can’t thank you enough!!!!! 🖤
@TheEarlyAstrotype1024
@TheEarlyAstrotype1024 3 жыл бұрын
Creative use of trance gate effects in drum and bass is a huge beast yet I only heard few dnb tracks using trance gate effect.
@justinreilly3107
@justinreilly3107 3 жыл бұрын
Digweed comes to mind with that last vocal gate you used. 👍🏻
@ljonathan991
@ljonathan991 3 жыл бұрын
Great now everything coming out will have this
@evanbarnes9984
@evanbarnes9984 3 жыл бұрын
It has since the 90s!
@44gg37
@44gg37 3 жыл бұрын
don’t be a… gatekeeper
@Malef1x
@Malef1x 3 жыл бұрын
@@44gg37 well done
@abyssent
@abyssent 3 жыл бұрын
cosmic gate
@johnp9916
@johnp9916 3 жыл бұрын
TRANCE GATEKEEPER 😭
@mrsostost
@mrsostost 3 жыл бұрын
i cant believe i found an easy way to make bicep style tunes!!! subed immediately and wait for more!!! thanks!!!
@mrsostost
@mrsostost 3 жыл бұрын
i also just saw your lessons and seem very interesting.lessons are in english right?
@andycordy5190
@andycordy5190 2 жыл бұрын
Once again, you've explained something so clearly that even though I don't use Ableton, and have no interest in the dance genres where we'd typically find this texture in use, I can see how to adapt the technique into my workflow.
@djicebreaker80
@djicebreaker80 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video tutorial, I did this technique with my vocals trance track.. but thanks for great advice
@JacobSkriver
@JacobSkriver 3 жыл бұрын
Immediately took me back to 1993 and Front 242 "Cage" track
@adrianlara5045
@adrianlara5045 2 жыл бұрын
I was going to ask some questions but I decided to wait and you answered them later on in the video.
@Brontosauredumarais
@Brontosauredumarais 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Reminds me of Age of Love with the vocal track.
@mobogdan4683
@mobogdan4683 3 жыл бұрын
man great tutorial. I love that you're going these and you make them so easy to follow and talk don't about bullshit for 7/8ths of the video. These are so good thanks man. They help with stuff I've heard in other trucks and wanted to know how to do but didn't necessarily have the words to describe.
@OscarUnderdog
@OscarUnderdog 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers Mo! Glad to help :)
@KonJonnorMusic
@KonJonnorMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Been using this technique a while now , but well explained, and no filler. Subbed 👍
@KonJonnorMusic
@KonJonnorMusic 3 жыл бұрын
@@Sharper290 you can just mute the channel of audio or midi that you are using to trigger the gate if you dont want to hear the trigger itself
@KonJonnorMusic
@KonJonnorMusic 3 жыл бұрын
@@Sharper290 not sure what daw you use but Ableton will still send out the information from the channel to the gate when muted so you get the gated effect but not the sound of the trigger itself
@isaacinternet
@isaacinternet 3 жыл бұрын
Your content is so much more useful to me than other channels. Thanks for making this!
@OscarUnderdog
@OscarUnderdog 3 жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@besaliju
@besaliju Жыл бұрын
Really nice and well put together - funny the gate is something I've avoided almost entirely up until this point
@benrettberg4628
@benrettberg4628 Жыл бұрын
Ive been binge watching your tutorials for the last two weeks now but I always find another video for exactly what I was looking for! Keep up the amazing work!🙏
@PaulOrtiz
@PaulOrtiz 2 жыл бұрын
I love your channel man - even when it’s stuff I already know, watching you explain it is really enjoyable and I usually come away with something new to try. Hope things continue to grow for you!
@OscarUnderdog
@OscarUnderdog 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks :D
@leewightman8619
@leewightman8619 Жыл бұрын
System f out of the blue had the best trance gate that hit hard af
@janickimusic
@janickimusic 3 жыл бұрын
Mr. Oscar should be mentioned on many tracks as a source of inspirations, thanks
@leoststst
@leoststst 3 жыл бұрын
This channel is a miracle
@AvithOrtega
@AvithOrtega 3 жыл бұрын
7:56 it suddenly became a psytrance sound
@dariushunter6792
@dariushunter6792 3 жыл бұрын
Was going with more anthem or euphoric trance.
@lundsweden
@lundsweden 3 жыл бұрын
Good tute, gives me some ideas (may be dangerous!)
@jesusblanquetfortes4808
@jesusblanquetfortes4808 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the knowledge jefe!! Great and simply explained.
@Rex-dk1rx
@Rex-dk1rx 3 жыл бұрын
Sasha is back using this technique over break beats or 2 step grooves
@Paulappelhof
@Paulappelhof 3 жыл бұрын
Recently found you in my suggested videos: all videos are gems! Clear, too the point and exactly in the genres I like ;-) as a ‘senior’ beginner in track production your tips and tricks hit the sweet spot. Long story short; keep up the good work!
@mathieufernandez-vandewall162
@mathieufernandez-vandewall162 3 жыл бұрын
Great to see someone that not only makes a tutorial but also explains the way effects are actually working. Then people can come with new ways of using them and thus new sounds and music! Thank you for that, subscribed
@jn1346
@jn1346 3 жыл бұрын
What a great tutorial. Organized and clear. I hope your channel blows up!
@OscarUnderdog
@OscarUnderdog 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers J N, let's hope so :D
@tshmn
@tshmn 2 жыл бұрын
Oh this is what I was looking for since I started learning music! Wish you were my friend haha
@OscarUnderdog
@OscarUnderdog 2 жыл бұрын
😁🙌
@seansnyder7744
@seansnyder7744 3 жыл бұрын
Watching this video while I'm planning a modular synth build brought me to the idea of incorporating an AM radio into my modular sessions. Have the radio signal as the source for the sidechained gate. BOOM. not only is the modular synth patch/sequence unique, but each time the radio is incorporated, it's just as unique.
@OscarUnderdog
@OscarUnderdog 3 жыл бұрын
Whoaw, that's original :D
@mcharbo8726
@mcharbo8726 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks as always for the lesson. They're always involving all of the information required to do the effect, while still getting to the point.
@Maxinquaye4real
@Maxinquaye4real 3 жыл бұрын
It's so interesing even if you're not interesed in making music but knowing how music is made!
@harovilius6132
@harovilius6132 Жыл бұрын
I've been searching for a tutorial like this for the entire night. I should have known to look directly to Underdog EMS, you always deliver, Oscar 🔥🔥🔥
@St0ckwell
@St0ckwell 3 жыл бұрын
This just took my plucks to the next level. And here's a tip, your gated sounds will come out much cleaner if instead of using a kick as the sidechain, just generate some solid white noise, with no envelope, using Operator. Freeze it, and then use ableton's fade feature to generate some plucks. This will result in a cleaner envelope with more frequencies for the gate to work with. This results in big, awesome plucks that no synth can generate
@OscarUnderdog
@OscarUnderdog 3 жыл бұрын
Great tip, thank you!!!
@exabel7520
@exabel7520 2 жыл бұрын
been looking for a tutorial to this technique for ages, didn‘t know how what to search for though
@sweetwheatsy
@sweetwheatsy 3 жыл бұрын
You mentioned Moderat in the title, and I'm instantly reminded of Running. Such a great track with this effect
@scarixix
@scarixix 3 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite production channels. Many thanks for so many useful techniques ! I've been messing about A1 Trigger gate plugin lately which has nice sequencer section. Cheers !
@ddavidivadd
@ddavidivadd Жыл бұрын
This is EXACTLY what I was looking for to reproduce that sound from Tame Impala’s “One More Year” & Skrillex & Four Tets “Butterflies”
@OscarUnderdog
@OscarUnderdog Жыл бұрын
For butterflies watch my video about skrillex as well! Love that track!
@stevenstringer7401
@stevenstringer7401 3 жыл бұрын
Another way to do it: Midi trigger track with synth with basic init patch Set outs to sends only Create midi pattern for trigger Set sidechain on gate and play around until it sounds dope Gated Reverb Sends: Put an over the top reverb on a send. Saturate or crush to taste (slow panning over whole bars also sounds good) Set send to PRE fader* Lush reverb that you can dial in *with the send set tp prefader you can start with just the gated signal and slowly bring in the original signal with automation.
@ibec69
@ibec69 3 жыл бұрын
I love this effect. It can be observed, used in a very trippy way in Doof's Balashwaar Baksheesh, among many others of course.
@Reaktora
@Reaktora 2 жыл бұрын
super dat ik dit kanaal gevonden heb ! dan nog iemand uit brussel !!
@jameshutchins7042
@jameshutchins7042 3 жыл бұрын
I am glad that youtube recommended you. These tutorials are amazing. This much easier then what I was doing chopping the sounds with silence.
@OscarUnderdog
@OscarUnderdog 3 жыл бұрын
Random suggestion: listen to Zammuto - Yay for the most satisfying implementation of this ever.
@crappymeal
@crappymeal 3 жыл бұрын
@@OscarUnderdog gatecrasher resident transmission 2 (cd2) track 1
@kiland3d
@kiland3d 3 жыл бұрын
newbie in music production, your channel is a real gold mine of simplicity and efficiency !!... thanks a lot
@l4nternz
@l4nternz 2 жыл бұрын
dude youve genuinely taught me so much and i feel like ivr improved a ton in just this past week after feeling a bit stuck for a while, thank u!
@OscarUnderdog
@OscarUnderdog 2 жыл бұрын
So happy to hear! 💚
@SnowblindHallur
@SnowblindHallur 3 жыл бұрын
Just found your channel today, and I must say it's super underrated. Such well explained and in-depth quality content - keep it up!
@MrBrownAlliance
@MrBrownAlliance 3 жыл бұрын
Some of the best electronic music has always come out of Belgium...
@raarky
@raarky 3 жыл бұрын
Your way of explaining things is amazing. You provide a great amount of depth on a specific topic and it flows at a perfect pace. Thank you
@graceintheplace13
@graceintheplace13 Жыл бұрын
Wow!!! Amazing! Learning how those vocals are made is so helpful!! Thank you! You’re the best. ❤
@NineZeta
@NineZeta 3 жыл бұрын
I find it easier to just use the Alex Hilton Trigger Gate plugin, which is free. But, you gotta learn the fundamentals yeah? Awesome channel man. Glad i discovered this.
@talkin-ape
@talkin-ape 2 жыл бұрын
TriggerGate is brilliant, especially when you get busy with automation. But I'm definitely trying Underdogs way too. Love this channel.
@LDRTHE1NE
@LDRTHE1NE 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video man! Very good information. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👌🏼
@mhv91
@mhv91 3 жыл бұрын
I was expecting some insights on oldschool hard trance gated kicks, but this is ok too hehe
@nohodev
@nohodev 3 жыл бұрын
Not sure, but if you mean this low end boost that took out the hard knee of the kick and was a novelty in the early 90s: kzbin.info/www/bejne/p2fHdqWNqNupg7c
@mhv91
@mhv91 3 жыл бұрын
@@nohodev Hey, thank you but I was talking about running the kick through a reverb and then gating that reverb. They do it a lot in nowadays techno, but i prefer the old sound x): kzbin.info/www/bejne/hHevhWl_mriIjZo
@nohodev
@nohodev 3 жыл бұрын
ah yeah I vageuly remember that early hardcore. I liked the 91 style hardcore breaks
@nohodev
@nohodev 3 жыл бұрын
@@mhv91 I actually dont consider that old, because I'm about middle aged lol. This is what I remember as hard when I was a much younger due: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pJ68mmirbqebqqs
@maxhyper2863
@maxhyper2863 2 жыл бұрын
6:55 "Ayla - Ayla Taucher Remix" playing in my head
@introvertical_1931
@introvertical_1931 3 жыл бұрын
I usually use the gate for chain the hihat rhytmic.. Very useful 👍
@MegaMixking
@MegaMixking 3 жыл бұрын
great video - cheers from vegas
@discosecret6363
@discosecret6363 3 жыл бұрын
The best part about music is creating your own techniques not copying other styles.
@djragnar407
@djragnar407 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Oscar, your videos are INVALUABLE
@apu_apustaja
@apu_apustaja 3 жыл бұрын
*When you get to a million subs (some time around 1-2 years from now), I'm going to show my friends this comment from back when you only had 3.3k. :)*
@fabianw2k
@fabianw2k 3 жыл бұрын
Ima show them this reply hehe
@julianreverse
@julianreverse 3 жыл бұрын
I comment only to point out that there are now 9000 subscribers.
@apu_apustaja
@apu_apustaja 3 жыл бұрын
@@julianreverse I move away from the mic to breathe.
@Flashraize
@Flashraize 3 жыл бұрын
He must've hit the algorithm as now, one week later, he's got 11k subs! That's great though, I hope he keeps that good shit comin'!
@apu_apustaja
@apu_apustaja 3 жыл бұрын
@@Flashraize I have every faith...
@NatLifeSounds
@NatLifeSounds 3 жыл бұрын
yeah, I even didn't realised that I will live in time when people who don't make a Trance music will teach how to do a most easy thing in Trance for the big auditory)
@nirelmar
@nirelmar 11 ай бұрын
another excellent tutorial. thank you, oscar & underdog team!
@ssheking
@ssheking 3 жыл бұрын
Great trick. Subbed.
@OscarUnderdog
@OscarUnderdog 3 жыл бұрын
Thaaaaanks
@Aqquinox
@Aqquinox 2 жыл бұрын
This is why I love LFO Tool
@introsphereakafelixus
@introsphereakafelixus 3 жыл бұрын
Man thank you for this tutorial! So simple but I have never tryed it. These gated Vvcals are so emotionaly loaded.. they allways give me goosebumps
@thesucculentcity
@thesucculentcity 6 ай бұрын
For stuff like straight 16ths, could just use an arpeggiator to trigger a sample, and use that sample as the trigger
@Sirruca
@Sirruca 2 жыл бұрын
Ive using different plugins for the trance gate effect and this is from far the best and most precise way to create gates! Thanks for sharing
@iamdannywyatt
@iamdannywyatt 3 жыл бұрын
I would suggest people to use a bounced saw wave with maybe a few seconds of sound instead of a kick. That will allow moments where the gate can be constantly open for more than the length of a kick drums, which is super short.
@cashenkash7325
@cashenkash7325 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the tutorial.
@BenAngMusic
@BenAngMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Very clear and helpful, thanks for making this video. I was going to teach my students how to do this, but now I think I'll ask them to watch your video instead!
@arfcorps
@arfcorps Ай бұрын
Even earlier, 80’s synth pop used this technique using Drawmer DS201s
@sympalamusic9324
@sympalamusic9324 3 жыл бұрын
Gorgeous
@kennethsmith5383
@kennethsmith5383 3 жыл бұрын
Ableton represent 😤😤😤
@ottonelli_music
@ottonelli_music Жыл бұрын
Incredible channel man! Thanks a lot for the insights! Wishing all the best things for the channel!
@DJFusia
@DJFusia 3 жыл бұрын
AMAAAAAAAZINNNNNNNG Tutorial !!!! Thanks mate !!!!
@scott_d_owens
@scott_d_owens 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent tutorial, thanks!
@Sonyzaoldyeckkong
@Sonyzaoldyeckkong 3 жыл бұрын
Don't know if you are planning to do any Dawless tutorial, but if so, please make one about making trance music with dawless setup. Your work is amazing dude.
@warrenc1829
@warrenc1829 Жыл бұрын
This really is a superb, concise tutorial. Very clear. Subscribed!
@matttorrence2900
@matttorrence2900 3 жыл бұрын
Oscar is the greatest!
@SerhiyP89
@SerhiyP89 3 жыл бұрын
Who needs Netflix, when we've got this guy!
@BIFTYTIME
@BIFTYTIME 3 жыл бұрын
Best production channel on KZbin thank you so much 🙌
@foodstampz
@foodstampz 3 жыл бұрын
Quality is great. Oh well...gating is so easy every producer should have tricks up thier sleeve with gating.
@foodstampz
@foodstampz 3 жыл бұрын
The age of love track started much of this..also stuff on Bonzai label
@joitdust4053
@joitdust4053 3 жыл бұрын
No water. Great explanation!
@donaldkrambeck
@donaldkrambeck 2 жыл бұрын
cannot wait to try this out! thank you so much for the tutorial
@spacey_jones
@spacey_jones 3 жыл бұрын
Dope!! Thank you!
@segefjord
@segefjord 2 жыл бұрын
I love your content. I'm happy that you provide all these videos for free. After my next semester in university i'll have more time on my hand, and i will definitely be taking some of the pro courses from you. You are the only online teacher i have ever wanted to do that with, but this content is just amazing. I love how you keep everything higher level, and not just "push these buttons", like you actually explain everything. It's great to see tutorials not targeted at "noobs", but rather for someone looking to get more serious with music.
@markearll3940
@markearll3940 3 жыл бұрын
Exceptionally well explained - brilliant!
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