The Trial of Pamela Smart

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@nowasiwassaying...1699
@nowasiwassaying...1699 4 жыл бұрын
Hearing your "hey you" is like having an old friend walking through the door.
@colleenlally-ross7105
@colleenlally-ross7105 4 жыл бұрын
He had me at "turdy-tree" 😉
@matteframe
@matteframe 4 жыл бұрын
Living in quarantine makes this especially real...
@hand__banana
@hand__banana 4 жыл бұрын
@Corby Dinzen how mad are you
@jimmyzhao2673
@jimmyzhao2673 4 жыл бұрын
Nice
@dianewright6204
@dianewright6204 4 жыл бұрын
I love your new glasses Mike
@nikkilengyel
@nikkilengyel 4 жыл бұрын
"He was easy to talk to" Translation: he was easy to manipulate
@b4ubcomeold
@b4ubcomeold 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely 100% spot on perfect statement!!!!
@jt8162
@jt8162 4 жыл бұрын
It amuses me that manipulation is always shown in a negative light. EVERYONE manipulates. It's not about manipulation so much as the intentions behind it. Besides breathing it's one of the first actions we do (crying to get something - alright typically, I was told when I came out I barely cried at all.)
@audreyann1975
@audreyann1975 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly. He was easily manipulated and any predator would pick up on this!
@raymaharaj4502
@raymaharaj4502 3 жыл бұрын
@@jt8162 Stop crying! Lol. Jkz.
@baybuhmoose
@baybuhmoose 3 жыл бұрын
@@jt8162 saying everyone manipulates is like saying everyone lies, technically true but the difference between what's in a normal range and how sociopaths treat people is night and day might as well be comparing completely different things. Amuses me how chronically dishonest people or thieves are usually the first to suspect someone else of lying or stealing
@margaritaiov330
@margaritaiov330 4 жыл бұрын
it’s not an „affair“, if one of the participants is 15 years old and the other is a grown woman and additionally in a power position. look at this boy, he’s clearly a child.
@hereticlife2546
@hereticlife2546 4 жыл бұрын
I’m 36, when I was 16 I “had an affair” with a 28 year old married woman. I knew then and believe now I am the one who was the seducer in that relationship. I was this cool, arrogant, 16 year old kid with long hair thinking I was the next rock star and clearly some fantasy the woman had from back when she was a teenager. It’s just not the same for boys and girls, it’s not. Even though she was the adult I was physically stronger than her, I was bigger than her, I was more confident in who I was. I’m not saying females can’t be all that stuff, it’s just not as common.
@MindyMarie.
@MindyMarie. 6 ай бұрын
It was grooming and rape.
@PitH0und
@PitH0und 4 ай бұрын
@@hereticlife2546 I genuinely hope no one who was abused as a teenager takes your "opinion" seriously. I'm sure everyone thinks you're really cool.
@FLOSSYTREADWELL
@FLOSSYTREADWELL 3 ай бұрын
@@hereticlife2546 Yes at 13 I could see my power over older men. We underestimate the intense desires of very young & how they can persuade those they target. But they're children so blameless because adults should know better. Knowing something is wrong & fighting your emotional desires while someone is pushing & pushing can take a lot of strength we may not be equipped with. Who teaches us that we must not be attracted to, & certainly must not take action on that attraction? Unless you've been in that situation you are just not equipped to judge others. However, our laws are equipped to judge because they only look at it from a cold legal point of view. I wonder what training teachers are given to deal with pupils who target them?
@TheMarinemom02
@TheMarinemom02 2 жыл бұрын
Those of us who remember her laughter and giggles, her excitement at being on TV, her lack of empathy for Greg, her manipulative statements, her other photos taken with the kids, and the full trial, are not surprised at all that she’s doing life. She got her way, Greg is still dead. She just didn’t get away with it.
@haiden5272
@haiden5272 4 жыл бұрын
"Relationship" "Affair" no, it was rape and manipulation. The fact that these terms are still being used today is disgusting.
@jordandennis6794
@jordandennis6794 4 жыл бұрын
It only gets used when it's a man manipulating a girl. When it's a woman manipulating a boy, it's "well, he enjoyed it so..." Disgusting shit
@ceciliahidalgo3904
@ceciliahidalgo3904 4 жыл бұрын
It's disgusting how common it is, where I live, Chile, a thirteen years old girl was kidnapped by a thirty years old man, and the news was all about their relationship, her sexual life (she doesn't even have the age to conscent) and how she was seducing this man, and just like her a lot of teens are humiliated when they're the victims in the situation but then wonder why they don't report what happend 😩
@simplsaiyanappa6572
@simplsaiyanappa6572 4 жыл бұрын
I agree that statutory rape applies but this WAS a long consensual affair
@haiden5272
@haiden5272 3 жыл бұрын
@@simplsaiyanappa6572 children cannot have consensual relationships with those who they look up to
@sackme4377
@sackme4377 3 жыл бұрын
@chris kibodeaux It's rape if they're not above the age of consent, because they can't consent. He was 15.
@Wildmutationblu
@Wildmutationblu 4 жыл бұрын
She took a teenager "Billy" who had a crush on her and ruined his life. That alone, deserves a prison sentence.
@johnv6806
@johnv6806 4 жыл бұрын
Butters?!
@mattv2280
@mattv2280 4 жыл бұрын
Wtf butters?? 🧈
@sara-mh8hl
@sara-mh8hl 4 жыл бұрын
A crush doesn't lead to killing someone. If he was any bit sane or had a heart he'd have ran or told somebody, or at the very least wouldn't have done it. The fact he actually went and murdered a man he didn't know just over a crush shows he had that in him already and that it was only a matter of time. Its sad for sure, but they're all shitty people minus the girl who wore the wire and told the cops.
@odonnellcaleb
@odonnellcaleb 4 жыл бұрын
It deserves a sentence for sure...But not life. I truly think as awful as she was for other things that she didn't get a fair trial.
@sara-mh8hl
@sara-mh8hl 4 жыл бұрын
@@odonnellcaleb thats fair enough for sure. He did look genuinely remorseful both at the trial and 25 years later after the fact. Whereas miss Pam just acted entitled through and through.
@jakeswitzer1522
@jakeswitzer1522 3 жыл бұрын
I know it wasn’t intentional but to call what she did to billy an affair is just wrong. He is a minor and she is an adult in a position of power over him. As many others have pointed out, imagine if their genders were reversed. Our gender stereotypes should not be used to perpetuate abuse.
@sejje
@sejje 3 жыл бұрын
Somebody get a time machine and let the people 30 years ago have a piece of Jake's mind.
@jakeswitzer1522
@jakeswitzer1522 3 жыл бұрын
@@sejje lol I was referring mike calling it an affair. Give me a time machine though, I’m ready 🥊
@lila2028
@lila2028 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. But the date,1990, was before societal recognition that it works both ways. Sadly, in 1990, it would have been considered an "affair".
@littleshopofeldritchhorror6224
@littleshopofeldritchhorror6224 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t know if this is the reason Mike used the word affair rather than abuse is because in uk an Ireland age of consent is 16.
@yahnservices1978
@yahnservices1978 3 жыл бұрын
@@robertsecor2003 Do you maintain what you say if the gender are reversed ? "I'd like a piece of that action!"
@treyk7460
@treyk7460 2 жыл бұрын
It's so gross to hear Pam refer to her relationship with her teenaged victim as an "affair" and for the media to call him her "lover". He is not her lover, he is her victim just as sure as her husband is. It's so frustrating and grotesque the way we treat male victims of abuse, especially in the media. I honestly can't help but feel bad for Billy, even though (of course) what he did to Gregg was not okay. He was still a victim of grooming and abuse by a trusted adult figure. Pam is the real monster here.
@aparnarajesh
@aparnarajesh Жыл бұрын
For me that Billy was victim just like JC
@larking1555
@larking1555 Жыл бұрын
It’s not just male victims. We still call children prostitutes- we still allow 14yr old girls to marry groomers. And it’s RARE that an adult woman tries to marry her victim- many men not only try but have success in doing so. It’ll be a great day when this ends.
@user-pi5dx3ju6n
@user-pi5dx3ju6n Жыл бұрын
Actually she was Patrick Randall's victim. What ignorant people like you don't understand is that bill Flynn did not shoot Gregory Smart. Patrick Randall did. The only crime that was intended that night, May 1st 1990, was a burglary. But Flynn, Lattime and Fowler had no idea that Randall had stolen a gun from Lattime's father and brought it with him as a precaution. Greg came home and caught them in the middle of the burglary. So Randall decided he might as well rob Gregg. At that point Randall knew that Greg would be able to identify them so he made the decision to murder Gregg. My advice to you is before you comment on something as serious as a criminal case for which an innocent woman is serving a life without parole sentence, you should make sure you've got your facts straight.
@elizabethcompton738
@elizabethcompton738 Жыл бұрын
Billy was no saint and neither were his scumbag friends
@chalicecasillas7895
@chalicecasillas7895 8 ай бұрын
right how come she didn't get in trouble for having relations with a minor
@annaheff7332
@annaheff7332 4 жыл бұрын
I find myself saying “give it a goo” in real life and no one knows what the hell im talking about
@erinmuro1912
@erinmuro1912 4 жыл бұрын
OMG! I do!! You Listen to True Crime Obsessed don't you?!...😂😂
@Squishito
@Squishito 4 жыл бұрын
I've absorbed 'I hear ya barkin' big dog' into my daily lexicon.
@IndependantWoman87
@IndependantWoman87 4 жыл бұрын
Hahaha this cracked me up
@Collins1118
@Collins1118 4 жыл бұрын
And don’t try to explain
@peapie5920
@peapie5920 4 жыл бұрын
Lol! I have found myself saying “hey you” to my kids when they get up in the mornings. Lol.
@volmerboy
@volmerboy 4 жыл бұрын
Just what a my Friday needed. “Heeeeey you”. AND new glasses.
@NyanyiC
@NyanyiC 4 жыл бұрын
They look nice
@cw6621
@cw6621 4 жыл бұрын
They're perfect aren't they? I love em, but I love everything about this channel, so ...
@liquidtna
@liquidtna 4 жыл бұрын
@@cw6621 same shirt for 2 years too. lol
@Winchester1973
@Winchester1973 4 жыл бұрын
@@liquidtna Maybe he got several 😅
@michaelwhite2823
@michaelwhite2823 4 жыл бұрын
Great glasses and I have ALWAYS liked the raspberry shirt, but Mike, you are becoming a star. You shouldn't be seen wearing the same clothes twice.
@ThatJibbs
@ThatJibbs 4 жыл бұрын
Come for the "Heeeey you" and stay for the "Mike out."
@ThatJibbs
@ThatJibbs 4 жыл бұрын
@Corby Dinzen There are stories? I just log on every Tuesday and Friday at 3pm, click the video, listen for "Hey you" then skip to the end and find the "Mike out", feel the dopamine rush, then close the video.
@dakalodk
@dakalodk 4 жыл бұрын
Me too
@jimmyzhao2673
@jimmyzhao2673 4 жыл бұрын
@@ThatJibbs very efficient, cut out the middleman, why stick around for all the 'goo' in the middle.
@ThatJibbs
@ThatJibbs 4 жыл бұрын
@@jimmyzhao2673 That's right! Never let the goo in.
@noelibb510
@noelibb510 4 жыл бұрын
Corby Dinzen i can tell your obnoxious to be around
@HelenTudor-Douglas
@HelenTudor-Douglas 3 жыл бұрын
At 14:00 the quick fade-in fade-out of Jeffrey Epstein over Alan Dershowitz's face was HILARIOUS!!! I haven't spontaneously laughed out loud, that loudly, that quick, in YEARS! Thanks Mike! : )
@-danR
@-danR 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that was sneaky, ha; for a second I thought it was part of the broadcast somehow...
@Luna.3.3.3
@Luna.3.3.3 2 жыл бұрын
🤣 I thought the same thing! Mike's a clever guy. Throwin' in a 'lil shade!
@wcolautti
@wcolautti 2 жыл бұрын
That was beautiful! 😂
@Secret_Soul_Survivor
@Secret_Soul_Survivor 2 жыл бұрын
YES!!! I loved that moment and wondered how many would pick up on it. Luv you're SOH Mike❤😅
@monique5248
@monique5248 2 жыл бұрын
Ya I caught that too. Lolol
@Sabrina-uf6ic
@Sabrina-uf6ic 4 жыл бұрын
When Mike said she was dressed like a christmas tree I pictured her in a legit christmas tree costume and got really confused for a second
@FlameFlickers
@FlameFlickers 4 жыл бұрын
I find the thought of her showing up in work wearing all her jewelry cos she was worried the guys would steal it really funny for some reason..
@heyysimone
@heyysimone 4 жыл бұрын
I thought it meant she was wearing super colourful clothing so people would see her and for like an alibi.
@kitterzy
@kitterzy 4 жыл бұрын
heyysimone See, that would actually make sense!
@aroseinwinter7719
@aroseinwinter7719 4 жыл бұрын
Same haha
@OnlyM...
@OnlyM... 4 жыл бұрын
So did I!
@cirahquinn8102
@cirahquinn8102 3 жыл бұрын
She manipulated a 15 year old boy into killing someone. She used his infatuation with her to her advantage. She knew exactly what she was doing and didn't care who got hurt. She just didn't think she would get caught out.
@KitKat4Christ
@KitKat4Christ 3 жыл бұрын
I thought he was 17.
@cirahquinn8102
@cirahquinn8102 3 жыл бұрын
Even if he was, which I don't think he was, 17 is still underage.
@debodatta7398
@debodatta7398 3 жыл бұрын
RIght I MEAN THE WIRETAPPING ALONE should be enough she literally threatens her that she'll be tried if she ever tells anyone...then tried to play it off in court like "oh I was pretending" like how dumb is she
@AutumnSwift2
@AutumnSwift2 3 жыл бұрын
he said he wanted to be a hitman
@farrienyoungblood5257
@farrienyoungblood5257 3 жыл бұрын
She thought she could lie her way out of it
@rynoX88
@rynoX88 4 жыл бұрын
"Good news, we got the killer. Bad news, it was you." Thats a pretty good line to tell someone guilty of murder.
@baldeagle5297
@baldeagle5297 4 жыл бұрын
@Charles godwin Stan was released in 2000 according to Wikipedia. I wouldn't know, I've never heard it.
@missolesoul
@missolesoul 2 жыл бұрын
Remember she told Billy that she was being beaten and he thought he loved her. It was not only because he loved her. He thought he was saving her life.
@stancexpunks
@stancexpunks 4 жыл бұрын
Greg refusing to give up his wedding ring because “his wife would kill him” is super ironic but even more sad 😔
@DoctorDex
@DoctorDex 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah that was just heartbreaking
@rabbit3212010
@rabbit3212010 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the thing about irony is not to point it out when it's obvious.
@frankie1012
@frankie1012 4 жыл бұрын
Pam’s a Sociopathic Borderline Personality. Once Greg cheated he signed his death warrant.
@cocogoat1111
@cocogoat1111 4 жыл бұрын
Weird he would draw the line at that but still cheated on her...
@guitarbrad
@guitarbrad 4 жыл бұрын
That scene is in the movie which is based on this case called "To Die For" starring Nicole Kidman.
@hystericmysteric
@hystericmysteric 4 жыл бұрын
FIFTEEN. SHE DID THIS TO FIFTEEN YEAR OLDS.
@johnv6806
@johnv6806 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Plural.
@jackanthony976
@jackanthony976 4 жыл бұрын
Even at 15, I would never even consider killing an innocent man over some woman!!
@flynick
@flynick 4 жыл бұрын
Yea it's manipulation of a minor! Imagine if she was a man..
@zandiek
@zandiek 4 жыл бұрын
Nevertheless it was still manipulation. Pamela knew what she was doing was wrong, but did it anyways. Whether they both consented or not still doesn’t change the fact that it was wrong and Pamela’s the one to blame
@flynick
@flynick 4 жыл бұрын
@Sleeper 1776 when it comes to emotional intelligence a man needs to be almost thirty to match a twenty year old girl in terms of sexual manipulation
@MissAlii432
@MissAlii432 4 жыл бұрын
Had a good laugh when Pam asked for signal if there's a wire in the already wired conversation .
@farrienyoungblood5257
@farrienyoungblood5257 3 жыл бұрын
She has to be the most immature 23 year old ever. “Well he liked me but at first I didn’t like him”. Sounds like a 7 year old. She needs to stay in prison and keep her no lip mouth shut 🤐
@beegee4791
@beegee4791 2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣 what did her lipless-lips ever do to you? 🤣🤣
@lariwyman6273
@lariwyman6273 2 жыл бұрын
Lmaooooo 😂 🤣 I noticed that she doesn't have an upper lip!
@tabithawagner7424
@tabithawagner7424 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking her emotions are easy to hide bc she doesn’t have lips 😵🤣 is she smiling? Frowning? Pursing? We don’t know lol
@IndrasChildDeepAsleep
@IndrasChildDeepAsleep 2 жыл бұрын
Im 22 and I don't even want to date someone my age, definitely not younger than me. How she considered it "dating" or "having an affair" is beyond me. That was a child.
@Mehki227
@Mehki227 Жыл бұрын
Yes! If anyone could be forgiven for getting lip injections, it would be her. 🤣🤣
@imboofingit8684
@imboofingit8684 4 жыл бұрын
Bro that fade in/fade out of epstein when the camera is on dershowitz is priceless
@MizJaniceResinArt
@MizJaniceResinArt 4 жыл бұрын
I thought I was seeing things for a second there...it kinda creeped me out
@kimberlycopeland4354
@kimberlycopeland4354 4 жыл бұрын
I had to go back and look again! I thought I was seeing things 😂
@andreakoroknai1071
@andreakoroknai1071 4 жыл бұрын
I knew the name was familiar, but couldn't place it until the image of Epstein
@LiquidCyrax
@LiquidCyrax 4 жыл бұрын
This is what I came to the comments to see!!!
@isabel152
@isabel152 4 жыл бұрын
Lmaooo i was looking for this comment. That was pure gold
@janeygray8911
@janeygray8911 4 жыл бұрын
Mike cutting himself off in the intro will never get old for me.
@annaelisavettavonnedozza9607
@annaelisavettavonnedozza9607 3 жыл бұрын
Oh God I know I fucking love it 😂
@annapayne7654
@annapayne7654 3 жыл бұрын
I just adore it when he does that.
@jamesclark7752
@jamesclark7752 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao!!! Man I love his channel I watch a different one at least 4 times a day
@JL-el7ju
@JL-el7ju 3 жыл бұрын
The fact he refused to give his wedding band up 💔 she’s a monster
@bunnymad5049
@bunnymad5049 3 жыл бұрын
Not one word that comes out of her mouth is about her husband except that it comes back to her, her feelings, her thoughts, how hard it is for her. At least we know there's one person she truly loves.
@EyeC999
@EyeC999 4 жыл бұрын
I’m actually an optician, and am, therefore, thoroughly qualified, and certified to comment on your new specs. They’re very nice.
@MassNssen
@MassNssen 4 жыл бұрын
What about her eyes, are they certified crazy?
@EyeC999
@EyeC999 4 жыл бұрын
MassNssen Yes. Yes, they are.
@lily-joyheal9954
@lily-joyheal9954 3 жыл бұрын
"yeah Cecilia, *go walk the dog* " this will never fail to make me laugh
@patricialessard8651
@patricialessard8651 4 жыл бұрын
My husband at the time worked with Greg's Uncle Jimmy. I got to know him and Greg's cousins before all this happened. Believe me, what you don't know about Pam would fill books. She was not the nice kind and sweet person that allot of people tried to make her out to be. She is where she should be and got there all by herself. Love your videos. Thanks and stay safe.
@shaleamontanez4591
@shaleamontanez4591 4 жыл бұрын
Would love to hear about it if you have time! Im really interested in the case after watching a documentary about it
@saintnicholas643
@saintnicholas643 4 жыл бұрын
She does not seem kind and to me, everything about Pam screams fake. She is Evil and I bet the people in prison saw that and thats why she took those beats,
@Marciesplash
@Marciesplash 4 жыл бұрын
Seems obvious to me if she considered a teen student as a close friend- probably liked being around people she could easily manipulate
@grumpypumpkin1
@grumpypumpkin1 4 жыл бұрын
She doesn’t seem kind to me at all. Seems she planted the idea in the kids minds to kill, whether she organized it or not, and they did as they were told. She enjoyed them being easy to manipulate. Why couldn’t she find friends her own age????
@patricialessard8651
@patricialessard8651 4 жыл бұрын
@@shaleamontanez4591 when I get some time I will. As with allot of people, things these days get crazy sometimes,Lol! Also, it's been so long since I've really thought about all that. It seems I only think about it when things such as Mikes video reminds me. Boy, when they started talking about her, it was sometimes hard to keep up! She was pissed at Greg for going "corporate" so to speak, where she fell for him because of the fact that they were both "metalheads". That whole life style she was into and didn't want to grow up. Greg,though had to if they want to have stuff. She wanted it both ways and didn't get what she wanted. Sorry, went off the deep end. Hope it gives you a little insight. Stay safe!
@johnmcmanus2447
@johnmcmanus2447 2 жыл бұрын
"What happened to Greg is the worst thing that's ever happened to me in my life." If that doesn't tell you she's a narcissist, I don't know what will
@PinkyJapan
@PinkyJapan 3 жыл бұрын
When you compare Billy’s emotions on the stand to Pam’s, it’s easy to see who was the mastermind behind this plot. He was full of remorse and shame while she gave zero f*cks.
@Lara-xu3yc
@Lara-xu3yc 3 жыл бұрын
Her emotionless face is fucking frightening
@kimmyfreak200
@kimmyfreak200 3 жыл бұрын
@@Lara-xu3yc she also has such a boring personality too
@ganiniii
@ganiniii 3 жыл бұрын
What do you know? Billy is a liar. They lied about who shot him they must have lied about other stuff too. Pam was fried because she listened to metal and in the 90's there was a wave o police cases conveniently solved with the arrest of a metal fan. All bullshit. She was in clear distraught when she found him.
@lolawants2008
@lolawants2008 3 жыл бұрын
@@ganiniii looooooool u are gullible aren’t u? Feigning hysteria is the easiest thing to do, & almost every killer does it.
@lolawants2008
@lolawants2008 3 жыл бұрын
@@ganiniii also, do u think deeply on anything? IF he’s lying… why? What does him lying & taking the blame for pulling the trigger if he didn’t, say about his character? And when you’re just trying to get info on a murder u had nothing to do with, & have had multiple taped conversations already, u don’t spend an inordinate amount of time talking about your fear of wires.
@andrewknaff9220
@andrewknaff9220 4 жыл бұрын
The fade in of Epstein when talking about Dershowitz was brilliant!
@marlenamurataj5881
@marlenamurataj5881 4 жыл бұрын
Totally creeped me out
@ChaCha.44
@ChaCha.44 4 жыл бұрын
I lost it 😂
@ryansnustad9133
@ryansnustad9133 4 жыл бұрын
It's douchewitz From the internet Here to lure your kids With him into bed
@kuz4b
@kuz4b 4 жыл бұрын
All the tin foil hats have been taken off..
@matteframe
@matteframe 4 жыл бұрын
Wait was Dershovitz Epstien's lawyer?
@amityislandchum
@amityislandchum 3 жыл бұрын
It took me a loooong time to realize "Jay Orr" was Mike-speak for "J.R."
@sp1cyn0va35
@sp1cyn0va35 3 жыл бұрын
I was so confused until I saw his name in the picture lol
@INTELLIGENCE_Revolution
@INTELLIGENCE_Revolution 3 жыл бұрын
I only realized that after reading your comment.
@robotaholic
@robotaholic 3 жыл бұрын
Me2
@marieslabbert6009
@marieslabbert6009 3 жыл бұрын
Me to. I thought he was namer after the donkey!
@brianvandaele3855
@brianvandaele3855 3 жыл бұрын
Mike did refer to "Jay Orr's" dad as "Ess Orr" (SR)...that was the clue :)
@njwpoo666
@njwpoo666 Жыл бұрын
I remember this well, as I was living in Southern NH and acquainted with one of Greg's cousins. The whole thing was horrifying. We called her Pam Not So Smart.
@eggarino
@eggarino 4 жыл бұрын
Even if Pam didn’t have anything to do with her husband’s murder, she still had a “relationship” with a minor. No sympathy for her at all
@jaycievictory8461
@jaycievictory8461 4 жыл бұрын
Statutory rape, no question. I would argue emotional rape too. Horrific.
@nobbynoris
@nobbynoris 4 жыл бұрын
And she should have been tried and sentenced for that separately.
@dantebg100
@dantebg100 4 жыл бұрын
Lol are you homosexual? What kind of dude can talk like that?
@dantebg100
@dantebg100 4 жыл бұрын
@Sean Charles lol... You are definitely a homosapien. And beta. and you sound like a simp. I don't know why..
@kristinaljohnson4816
@kristinaljohnson4816 4 жыл бұрын
No sympathy for 30 years in prison if that was her only crime? I am always freaked out by the concept of "judged by a jury of your peers". I would not be comfortable with the average dip shit deciding my fate.
@Lord_Shadowz
@Lord_Shadowz 4 жыл бұрын
I can’t believe she said, and I quote, “What happened to my husband was the hardest thing I’VE EVER HAD TO GO THROUGH.” She had to go through? he’s friggin dead!
@skeetwuzhere
@skeetwuzhere 3 жыл бұрын
And then when she said that the memory of what happened in that house will haunt her... I’m convinced she was in the house. I don’t care about her alibi .
@CourtneyTunbridge79
@CourtneyTunbridge79 2 жыл бұрын
100% Totally picked up on that. What about him, what about his family, what about the dog, I mean come on, more likely she should have said "MY HUSBAND'S MURDER IS THE HARDEST THING I EVER GOT CAUGHT DOING"
@anusuryarajawat5834
@anusuryarajawat5834 2 жыл бұрын
no its the dog " she cared about dog
@raintree3383
@raintree3383 2 жыл бұрын
Sarah Boone had the same mind set.....how Jorge's death was horrible for HER...NARCISSISM
@tamikent8656
@tamikent8656 4 жыл бұрын
Is anyone wondering about the child molestation that didn't really get addressed? This case was weird weird weird to watch back in the day...
@aquablue1252
@aquablue1252 4 жыл бұрын
I’m guessing they didn’t consider it such because it was a woman back then , or that the murder trumped the charges
@aquablue1252
@aquablue1252 4 жыл бұрын
But I fully agree
@mattkaustickomments
@mattkaustickomments 4 жыл бұрын
This was a about 5 years before the rash of Female teacher / male student cases started being reported and prosecuted. It wasn’t considered “a thing” before then, and public attitude has changed somewhat since then.
@MelbourneMatty
@MelbourneMatty 4 жыл бұрын
Matt Kustom Kostumes Sure, not great, but I suppose that it is, what it is. But why did Mike also just gloss right over it? In fact he touted her “achievements” since incarceration. I’ve never seen him do this for a male child molester, and nor should I. Regardless of her guilt in the murder, she still raped a child. It’s no longer the 1980’s. I’ve been a subscriber to this chan for a long while, and this disappoints me.
@MelbourneMatty
@MelbourneMatty 4 жыл бұрын
Kitten Lyric it was still definitely child molestation back then, even if it was viewed differently and prosecuted less. The PE teacher should have been strung up. The student was treated poorly by all and sundry, and that’s pretty fucked.
@tankeater
@tankeater 2 жыл бұрын
Kid outside driving got way harsher of a punishment than the two kids committing the act... Wow...
@marizzatyler
@marizzatyler 4 жыл бұрын
My anxiety fades away the second I click on your videos. Binge watched you back to March 2020 while knitting a sweater and hey - half of it is done! Thank you mate for providing lonely people with feeling they're not alone and actually have a friend.
@bilindalaw-morley161
@bilindalaw-morley161 4 жыл бұрын
marizzatyler I’m glad you’ve found a way to cope. Bless you, 🧸
@TheMrsGeorgeHarrison
@TheMrsGeorgeHarrison 4 жыл бұрын
I feel you on this! Ijust finished a binge of every single video. (His channel really changed!)
@melissagray8138
@melissagray8138 4 жыл бұрын
I’m glad this channel helps your anxiety, I get it! People tease me (not in a mean way) about my KZbin videos I can’t miss, but it definitely helps me get my mind off of things that cause me to be anxious. I hope you’re having a great day! 🤗
@13lilsykos
@13lilsykos 4 жыл бұрын
I tried to teach myself how to knit... I found out quickly that it's the devils work. (joke, obviously!) I crochet and I think I depend on the hook at the end of the needle to help hold the yarn, methinks. Or maybe I just need That Chapter playing in the background... 🤔
@shishkebab5306
@shishkebab5306 4 жыл бұрын
I just posted on your home page. Wish you well my friend.
@KafkaMike71
@KafkaMike71 4 жыл бұрын
The Epstein fade in over Dershowitz was a brilliant touch.
@ahnahstahjah
@ahnahstahjah 4 жыл бұрын
Im confuses about it, what does it mean?
@shyvonneed
@shyvonneed 4 жыл бұрын
Ha ha I noticed that too, but thought I would check see if anyone else noticed
@mavtx21
@mavtx21 4 жыл бұрын
@@ahnahstahjah Dershowitz was friends with Epstein and part of his legal team. Some say he would get minors through Epstein
@annemiekvdbos
@annemiekvdbos 4 жыл бұрын
Yes it was! Great little touch 😊
@fernandapartridge5174
@fernandapartridge5174 4 жыл бұрын
Such a creep that guy... both of them.
@ipodgirl95
@ipodgirl95 4 жыл бұрын
The "hey you" is so cozy. Even if what follows isn't ☺
@tinywalnut6337
@tinywalnut6337 4 жыл бұрын
My ex-boyfriend used to say this to me every time he saw me. Mike's greeting is infinitely more genuine.
@tomasotreasaigh111
@tomasotreasaigh111 4 жыл бұрын
@@tinywalnut6337 Was your ex an Irishman?
@tinywalnut6337
@tinywalnut6337 4 жыл бұрын
@@tomasotreasaigh111 Unfortunately, no.
@carebear8316
@carebear8316 2 жыл бұрын
Mike is one of the best story tellers with the best personalities KZbin has ever produced
@CornbreadOracle
@CornbreadOracle 4 жыл бұрын
I always felt a bit bad for Billy and the boys. It’s doubtful any of the three would have become killers if they hadn’t gotten caught in her web of lies. I am glad they served their time and are now free. Pam is exactly where she needs to be.
@markmike7933
@markmike7933 3 жыл бұрын
The only one that seemed shaken on the stand was Billy. One kid looked like he was talking about the weather. Maybe that was the one who was an aspiring hit man. Don't know if that was a joke or running gag, but it's an odd occupation to strive for when you get older :)
@larryroyovitz7829
@larryroyovitz7829 3 жыл бұрын
@@markmike7933 Teenagers say a LOT of things. Saying you want to be a hitman when you're 15 isn't all that strange.
@annacostello5181
@annacostello5181 3 жыл бұрын
Felony murder. If you participate in a felony that results in murder you are equally guilty even if you didn’t pull the trigger
@-danR
@-danR 2 жыл бұрын
Here's an update, this March 23rd 2022. The state has rejected her exhaustive final appeal, 5-0, which came by a desperate final admission as the sole instigator of the scheme. She gambled away every pack of lies she's told for decades, expecting clemency in return. She has finally apologized to the family, thinking it would win her freedom, but nobody cares anymore.
@HorrorSakuraQueen
@HorrorSakuraQueen 4 жыл бұрын
That was in my state...she still to this day is trying to get out....she’s a piece of work
@jessicaatkins5820
@jessicaatkins5820 4 жыл бұрын
Born and raised in New Hampshire myself and I was really young when this case happened but I remember my mom following it
@Rebma7420
@Rebma7420 3 жыл бұрын
My state too!
@HayleysComet3
@HayleysComet3 3 жыл бұрын
They have her on tape practically admitting to everything. When that girl wore the wire.
@NeVs-cb1oc
@NeVs-cb1oc 3 жыл бұрын
@@HayleysComet3 and till now she’s insisting she’s had nothing to do with it !!!! After sooo many years she’s finally realized, her plan to get rid of her husband DIDN’T work and now she daydreams of been free ... Guess what Pam ... it will NOT happen !!! I’ve always said it ... jail for life is the BEST punishment!!! Let them rot, locked up for life, and think every day of their stupidity that has ruined many lives !!!!
@Druku1977
@Druku1977 4 жыл бұрын
It literally pains when I I say " That Chapter should have a new video" then I search and find nothing. Then, when I go to search for something else a while later and a new one appears it makes my Tuesdays and Fridays. I'm a truck driver, I look forward to listening to these all week. The rest of what I put on is just to quell the silence.
@iwantthe80sback59
@iwantthe80sback59 2 жыл бұрын
The last interview with Gregg’s father just before he died was heartbreaking.
@djeyeskold1279
@djeyeskold1279 4 жыл бұрын
Mike, since your early videos, your personality has really shone through and you seem in your element now. Very witty yet serious. You're a natural presenter for sure. 👍👍👍
@BerkshireBitch
@BerkshireBitch 3 жыл бұрын
I usually agree, In this case, he fell hard for a pretty face. I was around when this happened. She is guilty af. Mike, C'mon, man!
@christyhoehn8244
@christyhoehn8244 3 жыл бұрын
@@BerkshireBitch - ikr? Mike is oddly sympathetic to this little murderess. She was a teacher and she preyed on the boys’ feelings.... she IS guilty af.....she is paying a longer price than some other murderers tho.....
@stardust164
@stardust164 3 жыл бұрын
I agree, he throws some humor in and tells a good story!
@ThatPMacleod
@ThatPMacleod 4 жыл бұрын
"To a town called Derry." How did you not make an IT reference? "Pam became... Pamywise." Well played Sir. Well played.
@SoulDelSol
@SoulDelSol 4 жыл бұрын
I worked in derry nh and went to a meetup horror movie for It 2 in theater. One of girls had a shirt that said derry with balloon🎈. I said wow i work in derry NH. She said "it's derry maine!!!!!!" First and last meetup i went to
@jayjay-602
@jayjay-602 4 жыл бұрын
🤡 this one got me too!! 🎈
@ilyakuznetsov1691
@ilyakuznetsov1691 4 жыл бұрын
Respect to Cecelia here. She single handedly took them all down, all while risking getting killed herself if anyone found out.
@lizc2023
@lizc2023 3 жыл бұрын
And made 100K
@EYE_GOTCHA
@EYE_GOTCHA 3 жыл бұрын
@@lizc2023 Good for her, says I. 😃👍
@B_hind_The_Curtain
@B_hind_The_Curtain 3 жыл бұрын
She wasn’t in any danger! The kid already put the gun back so worse case if she got caught she would have to skip school the next day
@spamalotcamelot132
@spamalotcamelot132 3 жыл бұрын
She did nothing stop the murder when she could have she is a criminal
@raikaru0
@raikaru0 3 жыл бұрын
@@spamalotcamelot132 Not stopping a murder doesn’t make you a criminal? Unless you don’t report info
@tealbutterfly05
@tealbutterfly05 2 жыл бұрын
"Yeah Cecelia, go walk the dog!" Made me spit out my tea. Being the third wheel might not be great, but at least you are not dead or in jail.
@BertErniesson
@BertErniesson 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like KZbin has really helped your personality. I'm one of the very early subscribers (one of those who saw your first jokes on here ever and told you to do that more often :D) and back then I often thought: He could need a little more self confidence. Now I watch your videos and think that obviously this community and your success (which you deserve!) has turned every scared kiddo atom in your body into a solid confident Mike. Thumbs up for that!
@friedpickles342
@friedpickles342 4 жыл бұрын
Bad ass comment!!
@AG-iu9lv
@AG-iu9lv 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for egging him on! His channel is life.
@toxics.
@toxics. 4 жыл бұрын
He definitely deserves the subs hes got, and much more! Plus the community surrounding him and in the comments seem alot nicer than most! Hes got a good thing going here 😀
@seancrockett896
@seancrockett896 4 жыл бұрын
Love the sense of humor!
@seancrockett896
@seancrockett896 4 жыл бұрын
Remember when it used to be mostly hauntings?? Those were good too bc I love ghost stories
@keithdevlin1
@keithdevlin1 4 жыл бұрын
Police: "Do you want the good news or the bad news?" Pam: "The bad!" Police: "You're under arrest!" Pam: "What was the 'good' news?!" Police: "We solved your husband's murder!" *Pam begins sobbing ironically*
@ollywurk
@ollywurk 4 жыл бұрын
lol
@fernandapartridge5174
@fernandapartridge5174 4 жыл бұрын
Always get the bad one out the way first....
@kylegarrett2429
@kylegarrett2429 4 жыл бұрын
SPOILERS!!
@noelle_c8380
@noelle_c8380 4 жыл бұрын
@@kylegarrett2429 then don't look through the comments of you dont want spoilers
@NoOne-ss3fc
@NoOne-ss3fc 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@DecemberUnDead
@DecemberUnDead 4 жыл бұрын
"Teenage lover" ma'am I think you mean "sexual abuse victim"
@peepbo3964
@peepbo3964 4 жыл бұрын
Only if it's a guy doing it to a girl. It's called "equality"
@angryviolentwitchqueen6633
@angryviolentwitchqueen6633 4 жыл бұрын
Thassa whole baby she done fondled
@toast3591
@toast3591 4 жыл бұрын
@@peepbo3964 no that’s still sexual abuse
@peepbo3964
@peepbo3964 4 жыл бұрын
@@toast3591 no way you think? lmao
@leeann4743
@leeann4743 4 жыл бұрын
They didn't have "an affair." An adult woman molested a teenager.
@rexremedy1733
@rexremedy1733 3 жыл бұрын
The 90‘s were the last decade where there was a consensus among all people in society that there is good reason to have hope towards a better future. It was the last decade where this was the case... Look at the shitshow of hopelessness and desperation of today. People who experienced the 90‘s were blessed. I feel sorry for those who were born after the 90‘s. I really do...
@xxka0tikkxx
@xxka0tikkxx 4 жыл бұрын
"I think we took the 90s for granted" We sure did. Wish we could go back.
@marthapozo4881
@marthapozo4881 4 жыл бұрын
I feel the same.
@DD-d6d3
@DD-d6d3 4 жыл бұрын
@Joanna Martin OMG the 70s felt like anarchy might break out. Richard Nixon, Vietnam, and inflation? No thanks.
@ryansnustad9133
@ryansnustad9133 4 жыл бұрын
Hot tub time machine bro;)
@matteframe
@matteframe 4 жыл бұрын
There was more crime in the 90s than now, which is nice.. But no youtube. so you had to watch your true crime on shitty non-flat tv screens.
@pineapplepen540
@pineapplepen540 4 жыл бұрын
@Joanna Martin He was better than Carter. Yikes.
@MeatHusk
@MeatHusk 4 жыл бұрын
I can’t believe how much this channel has grown, Mike great job being consistent and entertaining!
@mildredpierce4506
@mildredpierce4506 4 жыл бұрын
I noticed that too. In such a short period of time too. Mike's the man.
@whocares269
@whocares269 4 жыл бұрын
@Just some Guy I switched to his patron (psst 2 quid per month) so it didn't even click to me that upwards of 10/20k views wasnt his usual 30k!
@cremGeoff
@cremGeoff 4 жыл бұрын
Hear Hear...he's excellent.
@apinchofasia3310
@apinchofasia3310 4 жыл бұрын
the secret was the wink at the end of the video 😅🥰
@nathanpayne3729
@nathanpayne3729 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I started watching at 13,000 subscribers, proud of Mike 👍🙏
@julieperez1879
@julieperez1879 4 жыл бұрын
“Don’t kill in front of the dog, this would Traumatize him.” Absurd 😂😂😂 😂
@aquablue1252
@aquablue1252 4 жыл бұрын
Not really . It could have for sure
@guiguox
@guiguox 4 жыл бұрын
never trust a human being who cares about animals too much.
@bigsealfan9579
@bigsealfan9579 4 жыл бұрын
very interesting take considering the majority of TC's subjects were animal abusers
@karleyjojohnston6835
@karleyjojohnston6835 4 жыл бұрын
Ngl if I were going to kill my spouse I’d probably think the same thing
@sweeneytodd011
@sweeneytodd011 4 жыл бұрын
Weirdly though this really does show Pam was involved in the murder, its such an unusual and specific thing to say there's no way the female witness made this up, for me this really clinched Pam guilt and involvement in planning the murder.
@attorneycarissa
@attorneycarissa 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing the post trial reports. It sheds new light on the case. I wish the boys had been kept separate from each other from arrest to trial. I don't think we'll ever know the truth.
@glengraham7080
@glengraham7080 4 жыл бұрын
She seems to think she is just one of the kids. Very immature herself in her mannerisms too.
@angryviolentwitchqueen6633
@angryviolentwitchqueen6633 4 жыл бұрын
Ya I thought she sounded like one of the teenagers when she said “Cecilia told me Billy had a crush on me, and I didn’t like him at first but I started to like him.” Like ma’am you are a teacher not a teenager.
@Dad......
@Dad...... 4 жыл бұрын
I'm only 28 but I'm already to a point where 22 year olds appear to be 15. I see kids who are 15 and I would swear they're like 9.
@Dad......
@Dad...... 4 жыл бұрын
What's worse is imagining that woman-child mentality, with a manipulative personality, after 30+ years of a rough prison life. How much can you grow as a person in prison?
@angryviolentwitchqueen6633
@angryviolentwitchqueen6633 4 жыл бұрын
@@Dad...... that’s me I swear like I’ll look at a 15 year old and I’m just “where is your mom you fetus?”
@Dad......
@Dad...... 4 жыл бұрын
@@angryviolentwitchqueen6633 its so weird. I remember thinking I was a man when I was 15 lmao.
@smileymcfrown
@smileymcfrown 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Mike, I don't know if you look at the comments, but I'd like to say hello and tell you something. I binge your videos at night while I study and sometimes when my mom can't sleep she hangs out with me. She has fallen in love with your content and whenever I'm home now she asks for me to put you on, especially since you have soooo much content. She really likes that shirt you wear all the time, she calls you the purple shirt guy and she hopes you wash it frequently lol. Thanks for getting my mom to sorta kinda like KZbin Mike, so happy to have you as a creator on this platform!
@angryviolentwitchqueen6633
@angryviolentwitchqueen6633 4 жыл бұрын
Pure content mate 🥺💖
@tabithameekins8050
@tabithameekins8050 4 жыл бұрын
🥰😍
@yatoswag
@yatoswag 4 жыл бұрын
Awww that was Cute ☺️
@Dad......
@Dad...... 4 жыл бұрын
wholesome
@PennyPaws4
@PennyPaws4 4 жыл бұрын
Well said, Smiley. Hope you get a reply from Mike!
@samargorja6573
@samargorja6573 4 жыл бұрын
“I can’t give you the wedding ring my wife would kill me” This is so sad in so many levels!! Poor Greg little did he know! The last thing he was trying to protect is their bond and he died not knowing the truth
@mnikcd123
@mnikcd123 3 жыл бұрын
I never believed that he cheated on her, she made it up to give her a “legit reason” to kill him, i lived in area where it happened, ther was never a girl identified as his “affair” . He was not the type to cheat, he worshipped Pam, i think thts why she hated him, he was a major Simp 🤷‍♀️
@mnikcd123
@mnikcd123 3 жыл бұрын
Her husband was a major Simp for her, she made never proven claims that hubby cheated on her, doubtful, most likely she was trying to make him look bad, bad enuf to kill him 🤷‍♀️
@stacitowery4461
@stacitowery4461 3 жыл бұрын
I know most of these cases, but can’t resist the way you tell the stories❤️
@dontyellatmeimsoft886
@dontyellatmeimsoft886 3 жыл бұрын
she really told them not to kill greg in front of the dog bc it would traumatize him but she wasn't worried that would traumatize the boys wow true psychopath
@LunnaJannah
@LunnaJannah 3 жыл бұрын
That’s exactly what she is
@spaghetti9845
@spaghetti9845 3 жыл бұрын
I hope the dog was ok
@tashalynn29
@tashalynn29 3 жыл бұрын
The dog was OK. However when the boys went over there to lay in wait, they chased the dog around before catching him, then threw him down the basement stairs, and laughed at the thumping noise he made rolling down the steps. Then they ransacked the condo, hid and waited for Greg. Her parents got the dog afterwards.
@tashalynn29
@tashalynn29 3 жыл бұрын
@@lisafoos8976 wow. I find you unbelievable too, Lisa. It's called READING ONE OF THE MANY BOOKS WRITTEN ABOUT THE CASE. GOOGLE IS YOUR FRIEND, LOOK THEM UP.
@tashalynn29
@tashalynn29 3 жыл бұрын
@@lisafoos8976 no problem. The book "teach me to kill" written by Steven Sawiki was the first book I read about the case . That's where I read about the dog being tossed down the stairs. It was a well written book.
@ellierfromthebronx4531
@ellierfromthebronx4531 4 жыл бұрын
She played those kids like a fine violin. Let her rot in jail for what she made those kids do.
@Emily-jg4eo
@Emily-jg4eo 4 жыл бұрын
@K Gray she certainly did
@Emily-jg4eo
@Emily-jg4eo 4 жыл бұрын
@K Gray she manipulated and blackmailed them. They were minors.
@deepg9120
@deepg9120 4 жыл бұрын
@@Emily-jg4eo oh stop, 15 is the age where you are well aware of what is right and wrong. These semi grown ups had every opportunity to cease what they were doing from accepting the job, going to the house, holding the victim captive and pulling the trigger. Sure you could argue that teens still have space to develop EQ but not many teens assassinate people for money, do they?
@merisalynroberts2431
@merisalynroberts2431 4 жыл бұрын
@@deepg9120 he had just lost his parent and she sexually abused and manipulated him from her place of authority over him
@josephswann6692
@josephswann6692 4 жыл бұрын
I said “hey nice new glasses mike” out loud to myself RIGHT before you said something about making comments towards them in the intro and that made me laugh. hahaha we love you mike
@victoriawilliams2786
@victoriawilliams2786 3 жыл бұрын
The audio of the friend wearing the wire is what convinced me of Mrs.Smart's guilt.
@jaycievictory8461
@jaycievictory8461 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting all the men who contacted her, composed songs etc. after she was arrested. Shows it's not just women who romantically and inexplicably attach to killers.
@Lazrael32
@Lazrael32 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Stupid, creepy and crazy have no gender bias. People are people.
@dvddvd3476
@dvddvd3476 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah there’s way more notorious male killers than female so that would explain why we usually see women swooning over killers, was pretty weird to see these men acting that way towards Pam.
@rlawrence9838
@rlawrence9838 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah..also though, she did have that superficial charm characteristic of many a sociopath, which works the strongest on the opposite sex, or whichever sex the sociopath is most compelled to charm depending on their orientation.
@jeffsmith4110
@jeffsmith4110 4 жыл бұрын
They think it's like shooting fish in a barrel. They just don't realize that they're going to be the fish... sending her money, wasting their time communicating with someone who really would have no use for them were she free.
@Spills51
@Spills51 4 жыл бұрын
Hmmm....Bit different when some actually felt she didnt do it. (she is guilty in my mind) If your comparing that to groupies who swarm around people like Richard Ramirez...Again, far different. Maybe Aileen Wournos had guy groupies...that would be more in line with your statement.
@RR-mv1vr
@RR-mv1vr 4 жыл бұрын
Child abuse was obviously a very different thing 30 years ago!Not even a raised eyebrow over her relationship with a 15 year old!🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
@johnv6806
@johnv6806 4 жыл бұрын
Same thing now when its a woman offender. I know of 2 women personally that slept with boys between 13-15 and neither got charged.
@MissJessyeNorman
@MissJessyeNorman 4 жыл бұрын
@Jesus’lilcumbag420 69 Thank you!!! Our system is rigged in favor of pedophiles. It's PURE EVIL. And most people don't want to face it, and what it means. It can ONLY mean that those in power WANT it that way. I.e., that a large portion of those with power, influence and monetary wealth are pedophiles themselves, and either abuse the poor victims of pedophile rings, and/or are involved in the operation of those pedophile rings themselves, and are making their fortunes, at least in part, through the horrendous, wicked, and unutterably unconscionable suffering of children. We as the regular folks need to become proactive, and force changes in the legislation, to hold pedophiles of both genders to account - so that judges: #1 cannot deny the victims of their crimes justice, and #2, cannot send them back out into society, to create a litany of new victims.
@MrRyan-wu4jx
@MrRyan-wu4jx 4 жыл бұрын
They had her for planning a murder so they didn’t go for statutory rape charges so if the murder charge didn’t stick they’d get her for that. It’s not like she got away with the child abuse.
@ulivolga228
@ulivolga228 4 жыл бұрын
She even referred to the boys as "children" on the stand
@GhislaineMutombo
@GhislaineMutombo 4 жыл бұрын
Shows you how common that shit is. Sick.
@Goblin4Coin
@Goblin4Coin 4 жыл бұрын
I can't give you my ring, my wife will kill me Everyone in the jury: 👀
@faithsnyder239
@faithsnyder239 4 жыл бұрын
Your comment had me rolling
@yesiamthatgradeAcunt_
@yesiamthatgradeAcunt_ 4 жыл бұрын
Poor Greg.
@Kt-cn2rq
@Kt-cn2rq 4 жыл бұрын
👀👀
@Coughing_Blood
@Coughing_Blood 3 жыл бұрын
cute profile picrure :3
@duddydud
@duddydud 3 жыл бұрын
Can't make that sh@t up
@robertmeyer8221
@robertmeyer8221 2 жыл бұрын
This is one of the only cases I have watched on this channel where I feel justice was fully served.
@redriot2115
@redriot2115 4 жыл бұрын
Pam: I'm worried you'll have police wiretaps!! Cecilia: 😶
@porfirioayarzagoitia6966
@porfirioayarzagoitia6966 4 жыл бұрын
The fact that she wore all her jewelry on the night of the murder says alot.
@rosierose8549
@rosierose8549 4 жыл бұрын
Anyone notice how creepy it is. That her poor husband looked like a slightly older version of Billy.
@johnv6806
@johnv6806 4 жыл бұрын
OOHHHH BILLY!!
@amityislandchum
@amityislandchum 3 жыл бұрын
He looks exactly like an older version of Pete Randall (Billy's friend/accomplice) to me.
@gameskape2585
@gameskape2585 3 жыл бұрын
Looper
@user-db6el7eb9p
@user-db6el7eb9p 3 жыл бұрын
She has a type
@Coughing_Blood
@Coughing_Blood 3 жыл бұрын
that's often in such predator cases
@trumpetguy11
@trumpetguy11 3 жыл бұрын
One thing I find crazy in cases like this is, if you're willing to kill to prevent breaking up your relationship, why are you not willing to lie in court for that other person?
@markmike7933
@markmike7933 3 жыл бұрын
you think you're gonna get away with it and never have to lie for her in court :) Everyone thinks they're gonna get away with it. even a DUMB plan like this. They all lived in their own world. The 2 friends were the biggest morons. Getting so little for murder
@MW-do6cl
@MW-do6cl 4 жыл бұрын
Mike says, "Not a bother!" I hear, "Nutter butter" im hungry
@TheSquareOnes
@TheSquareOnes 4 жыл бұрын
Heard the exact same thing haha.
@maniyaburgess859
@maniyaburgess859 4 жыл бұрын
I heard "Nutter Butter' as well😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@jamilsmommy
@jamilsmommy 4 жыл бұрын
Same!
@ladyphelps21
@ladyphelps21 4 жыл бұрын
Lmao same
@chieflongsock
@chieflongsock 4 жыл бұрын
Or when he closes off the video, " Mike out"...I hear "my goat"🐐
@katrawr2100
@katrawr2100 4 жыл бұрын
This channel is soooo underrated. This is the best crime channel on KZbin in my book...love it!
@LoveThoseTunes11
@LoveThoseTunes11 4 жыл бұрын
OMG, I nearly choked with laughter at that subtle fade-in of Jeffrey Epstein. Mike, you are hysterical.
@WhatAWonderfulNameItIs
@WhatAWonderfulNameItIs 4 жыл бұрын
I caught that, too.
@HobbesRN
@HobbesRN 4 жыл бұрын
I thought that's who I saw...
@mortizya666
@mortizya666 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@ronimarie4730
@ronimarie4730 Жыл бұрын
Perfect for “we are free to choose but we are not free from the consequences of our choices”
@LeanneFowler-ms5xc
@LeanneFowler-ms5xc 3 ай бұрын
Is that something you just came up with or did Mike say it? Just curious 🤔🤨. Cuz I like it.
@ronimarie4730
@ronimarie4730 3 ай бұрын
@@LeanneFowler-ms5xc I believe it is someone else’s quote, I’ll have to look into it
@unappreciatedtrap_queen7787
@unappreciatedtrap_queen7787 4 жыл бұрын
“I asked for the ring on his hand” “What ring was that?” “I thought it was a simple gold band but it turned out to be a wedding ring” omg... I can see how they were so easily manipulated.
@imaDUCKIE11
@imaDUCKIE11 4 жыл бұрын
Because they are children :(
@MrMysteryman00
@MrMysteryman00 4 жыл бұрын
Them being stupid is not because they were 15. They were simply stupid.
@verabolton
@verabolton 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrMysteryman00 Were they Smarter when they got out from prison...?
@guesswho175
@guesswho175 4 жыл бұрын
Shit , I would have took the ring and his wallet
@imaDUCKIE11
@imaDUCKIE11 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrMysteryman00 they weren't stupid, they were children that were brainwashed/manipulated. Thats why children get indoctrinated in certain countries because they are very easily manipulated into believing certain things even when inside they feel its not right.
@springglade9691
@springglade9691 4 жыл бұрын
"..she told him don't kill Greg in front of the dog, else it will traumatise the dog"...😮
@katiek3396
@katiek3396 3 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of that Johanna lady who killed a guy stole the dog and after she was arrested only asked "where's the dog?" He's a good boy" or something like that!
@thejamaicandudewith100ksub3
@thejamaicandudewith100ksub3 3 жыл бұрын
That was cold af
@zensbleexperience3470
@zensbleexperience3470 3 жыл бұрын
WTF
@igor-yp1xv
@igor-yp1xv 3 жыл бұрын
Well, was the dog traumatised??
@rhosllwyd2863
@rhosllwyd2863 3 жыл бұрын
@@igor-yp1xv of course, em it has lost both owners and was homeless.
@MegCazalet
@MegCazalet 4 жыл бұрын
Damn, Cecilia was a stone cold badass in that taped conversation with Pam.
@themoreyouknow7418
@themoreyouknow7418 4 жыл бұрын
Seriously though. Her ability to keep her cool throughout the interaction is amazing.
@kdfulton3152
@kdfulton3152 3 жыл бұрын
Pam was one of those young twenty-something women who felt that there was no life after high school. She was very immature. I actually remember when this case was on tv. Yikes 😬
@katrabbit
@katrabbit 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine... just imagine if those two boys had told Greg his own wife convinced them to kill him for her, instead of actually killing him. Incredibly disgusting the amount of manipulation and emotional abuse that woman inflicted on those around her.
@maryallison0509
@maryallison0509 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly!!! She took full advantage of that group of kids adoring her. It's a shame that Greg grew up and got responsible. If he hadn't and not cut his hair, not took the better job and not become a valued member of society. Pam would of remained faithful (probably) and not gotten greedy and had him killed.
@angryviolentwitchqueen6633
@angryviolentwitchqueen6633 4 жыл бұрын
But I too was easily manipulated back then bc I was a child inside n out lmao but pammy knows all about having children inside her huh?
@dianefarley37
@dianefarley37 4 жыл бұрын
@@maryallison0509 She would not have remained faithful. She would get bored with Gregg no matter what. Probably had him killed no matter what. This mindset knows no boundaries and limits on behavior.
@katrabbit
@katrabbit 2 жыл бұрын
@NE POWERS Shannan Watts? As in Chris Watts, the man who murdered her and her children because he was convinced he could get rid of them and have a life with his mistress?
@katrabbit
@katrabbit 2 жыл бұрын
@NE POWERS In what way? I assure you, nothing you can say will change or justify Chris Watts murdering his entire family for his own pleasure. I've researched that case ever since it happened and seen every angle people want to spin it as- but, I'd be very interested to see your point of view on it. I truly believe those who side with him or can justify it in their own mind are those who could do the same to their own family- so I'm very curious when those who do justify it in some way want to speak up and expose themselves. So please, continue on.
@OldQueer
@OldQueer 4 жыл бұрын
Been having a crap day and I've been looking forward to old reliable for the last few hours. Cheers Mike!
@ThatChapter
@ThatChapter 4 жыл бұрын
Hope this makes it even a tiniest bit better!
@ImEverythingYouCrave
@ImEverythingYouCrave 4 жыл бұрын
@@ThatChapter mike you are a real cool dude
@michaelwhite2823
@michaelwhite2823 4 жыл бұрын
@@ThatChapter "Bits and bobs." I'm learning Irish!
@SpaceShipDeathstar
@SpaceShipDeathstar 4 жыл бұрын
Killer sent by Wife: "Give me your diamond wedding ring!" Husband: " I cannot my wife will kill me" *what the irony*
@Psyopcyclops
@Psyopcyclops 3 жыл бұрын
Do you think when Mike get married he’ll say “I goo”?
@laceylewis6512
@laceylewis6512 3 жыл бұрын
Was thinking the same thing! Haha 😆
@laceylewis6512
@laceylewis6512 3 жыл бұрын
Not that it’s funny that he’s dead.. just how you said it was funny!
@ritaheilig6671
@ritaheilig6671 3 жыл бұрын
The boys were only 15! Good grief. Your videos are always thought provoking and I love your voice, reminds me of home (Rathmines, Dublin) as I now live in Germany. Keep up the GREAT WORK. You are often hilarious. Some of these stories are heartbreaking and you somehow manage to find the humour in them. Thanks, it would be much too depressing without your "useful" comments!!
@lukassrensen4788
@lukassrensen4788 4 жыл бұрын
Better name for the case: “The Mullet Murder plot”
@GeOsmomGina
@GeOsmomGina 3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha......I thought the same thing. I had a mullet.
@Leoprincess3038
@Leoprincess3038 3 жыл бұрын
Underrated lol
@EYE_GOTCHA
@EYE_GOTCHA 3 жыл бұрын
*The Mullet Murder Mystery* 😯
@MsMcCoolio1221
@MsMcCoolio1221 3 жыл бұрын
I was just thinking that as well!
@Bea-Nuh-Luh
@Bea-Nuh-Luh 3 жыл бұрын
@@EYE_GOTCHA haaaaaa I was thinking the mullet murder !!!
@Nurse0128
@Nurse0128 4 жыл бұрын
If a teacher did that to one of my sons, I’d be the one in jail
@wrestlingfan3117
@wrestlingfan3117 4 жыл бұрын
Indeed. The same goes to my younger brothers. If any of their teacher’s did that, I’ll be arrested for animal cruelty.
@anduin3410
@anduin3410 3 жыл бұрын
good for you
@wrestlingfan3117
@wrestlingfan3117 3 жыл бұрын
@floaty cloud seriously? Tell her it’s creepy she’s laughing at a comment about a mother defending her children from sexual molestation. Also, calling you sexist is just saying ‘I’m I shitty person and I want someone else to know I’m a bitch’
@rshock
@rshock 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed! Me too
@Frenchblue8
@Frenchblue8 3 жыл бұрын
@floaty cloud proof that crap parents can produce kind, ethical kids. And vice versa, of course
@XayRush94
@XayRush94 3 жыл бұрын
28:37 “Did you plan his murder?” *Nods up and down* “No I did not.”
@jumpinjohnnyruss
@jumpinjohnnyruss 3 жыл бұрын
This happens a lot, and I can't see why people always read guilt into it. Do you think she was trying to tell everyone that she did it? Do you think it was somehow a subconscious admission? Neither seems plausible to me.
@PinkKitten002
@PinkKitten002 3 жыл бұрын
It's an ingrained response showing you're listening and heard the person....
@Simjorfeo
@Simjorfeo 3 жыл бұрын
@@jumpinjohnnyruss neither, the problem is that as a liar/manipulator you have to constantly fake your reactions, this is a very difficult task and most people tend to slip up with inappropriate reactions. It's not like her subconcious mind makes her nod her head because she wants to say "yes I did it", that's probably bullshit. Shaking her head would have definitely been the more "normal" reaction. It is possible that her mind was preoccupied with telling lies, so she nodded to make it seem like she was listening to the interviewer. Someone who is telling the truth is less likely to react like that since they do not have to concentrate on lying. Of course this isn't really a strong indicator that she was lying, but it fits very well into the picture.
@jumpinjohnnyruss
@jumpinjohnnyruss 3 жыл бұрын
@@Simjorfeo Thanks. Good explanation.
@cowspotmccracken4921
@cowspotmccracken4921 3 жыл бұрын
"aim a but higher~not with a scope~" I'm dead
@UseADamnCoaster
@UseADamnCoaster 3 жыл бұрын
She got a metal plate in her face? Well, now she's truly a metalhead 🤘🏻
@Bea-Nuh-Luh
@Bea-Nuh-Luh 3 жыл бұрын
I'm dead 💀🤣
@CLH315
@CLH315 3 жыл бұрын
Oh my gosh that’s just too good!!! 😆🤣🤣🤣
@Axeman369
@Axeman369 3 жыл бұрын
That's murder
@dahliawinters8019
@dahliawinters8019 3 жыл бұрын
LOL! Best comment here!
@veronicasettee6052
@veronicasettee6052 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao! Talk about irony. Or should I say, “iron-y”
@KatTheScribe
@KatTheScribe 4 жыл бұрын
I feel sorry for Billy. Totally gaslighted and too young to understand anything that happened, even his own behavior.
@sophiamac9100
@sophiamac9100 4 жыл бұрын
Still, old enough to know murder is murder.
@abebuckingham8198
@abebuckingham8198 4 жыл бұрын
@@sophiamac9100 That's true. However, sex drive is a powerful motivation and no 15 year old boy is fully prepared for it. We also know that the brain doesn't fully develop the ability to make decisions independently until later in puberty. He would be significantly more susceptible to manipulation than an adult. He appeared genuinely remorseful at the trial as well which is supported by his good behavior and immediate apology upon release as well. In context and in hindsight the 2nd degree murder charges seem just.
@maniyaburgess859
@maniyaburgess859 4 жыл бұрын
He's going to need therapy big time!!!!
@ethanp9068
@ethanp9068 4 жыл бұрын
Abe Buckingham still, any sane person wouldnt kill no matter what age.
@abebuckingham8198
@abebuckingham8198 4 жыл бұрын
@@ethanp9068 That's simply untrue. Almost all murders are committed by the sane. Mental illnesses are medical conditions, not catch-alls for any antisocial behavior.
@Sarah.Riedel
@Sarah.Riedel 4 жыл бұрын
The way she tried to coach Cecilia to lie for her and then outright threatened her is absolutely sickening. What a brave girl though.
@marlanaferro1558
@marlanaferro1558 Жыл бұрын
Which just proves Cecelia was NO angel, more like a co-conspirator. Cecelia only cooperated to save herself. Also, she was probably livid that Pam kept Gregg's life insurance but failed to pay her little minions after the deed was done. Pam may have paid everyone a small sum just to ensure all would go to plan, but she reneged in the end, thus leaving her little minions with zilcho. Cecelia cashed in while on trial, too.
@tacob69
@tacob69 3 жыл бұрын
I love how people are caught on tape admitting their guilt then trying to tell you they are innocent.
@elizabethmcglothlin5406
@elizabethmcglothlin5406 4 жыл бұрын
Pam Smart is a manipulative woman, but sadly, you don't have to be very 'smart' to manipulate 15-year-olds.
@hollydolly286
@hollydolly286 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, I think you under estimate 15 year olds. When I was 15 noone could have manipulated me to kill anyone. If at 15 you can be manipulated to murder - then something is really wrong. At 15 I definitely knew right from wrong. At 15 I had morals and ethics. Yes it is wrong to manipulate 15 year olds but it's more wrong to kill. Its more wrong that the 15 year olds could be manipulated to murder.
@samking2094
@samking2094 4 жыл бұрын
Teacher muff is all one needs to manipulate 15 year old boy
@fulcrum7455
@fulcrum7455 3 жыл бұрын
@@hollydolly286 I actually agree with this, I think that in order to be manipulated like this there has to be something wrong with you beforehand
@Zarbon000
@Zarbon000 3 жыл бұрын
@@fulcrum7455 And what about the psycho monster manipulator? Innocent?!
@yowatchie
@yowatchie 3 жыл бұрын
@@hollydolly286 yeah you’re super overestimating yourself at 15.
@tabitha8232
@tabitha8232 4 жыл бұрын
Me: why are all those groupies so interested in this case Also me: religiously watching each of the cases mike reviews
@BalboaBaggins
@BalboaBaggins 4 жыл бұрын
Because people love to see others being prosecuted. Society creates hate and anger in humans.
@simonarodriguez3515
@simonarodriguez3515 4 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@nicolenotizieeamici
@nicolenotizieeamici 4 жыл бұрын
Ha ha ha ..... that was me and my reaction too he he
@faith119
@faith119 4 жыл бұрын
@@BalboaBaggins I just want to hear people's stories n what happened to them so that I would be prepared if someone wants to kill me
@psychedlicsouljam1995
@psychedlicsouljam1995 4 жыл бұрын
Balboa Baggins we live in a society
@teamtruth
@teamtruth 4 жыл бұрын
Consistent quality content and never any arguments in the comments. You go Mike! 👍
@marlonius05
@marlonius05 4 жыл бұрын
This channel has been my saviour, tickles the brain, calms the soul with Mike's dulcet tones, and is a refreshing take on the murder mystery videos that are normally so gloomy that you feel ill afterwards
@cm9231
@cm9231 4 жыл бұрын
The only video by Mike that has a toxic comment section is the Chris Dormer one, but considering the sheer volume of his videos, it's miniscule
@hinduhillbilly
@hinduhillbilly 2 жыл бұрын
1) I think Gus Van Sant's 1995 film To Die For is a great adaptation of this story and young Joaquin Phoenix is great in it. So is Nicole Kidman. 2) If the story that she wore all her jewelry to school on the day of the shooting is true then she clearly knew about it ahead of time. In that case she's definitely guilty.
@ameanasaur
@ameanasaur 4 жыл бұрын
2020: we really did take the 90s for granted
@user-wy1et9dk9w
@user-wy1et9dk9w 4 жыл бұрын
Felt that way late 2000's
@pullingthestrings
@pullingthestrings 4 жыл бұрын
Right on
@Deathbybigmac420
@Deathbybigmac420 4 жыл бұрын
Lol 🤣we took 2019 for granted and every year before. So I agree
@orangehoof
@orangehoof 4 жыл бұрын
@@Deathbybigmac420 For the first time in six months, I got to sit and eat in a restaurant while watching a ball game on tv. Man, that felt great. I can't tell you how much I'd missed that.
@kingkonut
@kingkonut 4 жыл бұрын
laughs in bosnian
@kevindube7096
@kevindube7096 4 жыл бұрын
15:21 “Yes, I did start to like him during the filming of The Orange Juice Video” I’m gonna guess that statement has only been said once in a trial
@aquablue1252
@aquablue1252 4 жыл бұрын
Lmaooo
@sarahp8937
@sarahp8937 4 жыл бұрын
RIP Greg Smart. A senseless murder of a young life lost.
@vio8916
@vio8916 6 ай бұрын
Just today she's finally accepted responsibility for the murder. I guess she's aiming to get her sentence changed so she gets a chance at being paroled instead of serving in jail for the rest of her life.
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