The Triforce Was Hidden in PLAIN SIGHT!

[@nickcampbell6387]

Has anyone else noticed in the the memory of Rauru holding wiping out the moldugas that when the queen encouraged Zelda to assist him she was surprised to see that Zelda emitted much more energy than even her all while Zelda looked clumsy doing it, implying that Zelda has much more power within her?

[@almisami]

So I'm not the only one who noticed that.

[@p-doggo5787]

Maybe hylia power is being recovered? Like the master sword?

[@aedaniammx7559]

I’d love to hear the stories behind Farosh, Dinraal, and Naydra. We know anyone of any motive and presumably species can become a dragon, so were they heroes? Villains? Did they know what they were signing up for when they became dragons? Did they even KNOW each other when they became dragons, did they even become dragons at around the same time? So many questions, it’d be relatively inconsequential to answer them, but it’d be so cool to know

[@Gzilla313]

I think they three dragons are the Golden Goddesses, and when Ocarina of Time said the point the Golden Goddesses left Hyrule is where the Triforce was created was when the Golden Goddesses swallowed their Secret Stones to become dragons, leaving behind the goddess Hylia, who passed her Light Force to Rauru, and was later reincarnated as Zelda in Skyward Sword.

[@Novasux]

Wow

[@Herobrine100x]

​@@Gzilla313 My theory: while I believe the 3 dragons are the 3 golden goddesses, I don't think they need a secret stone to become a dragon.

[@lukiesttime]

ive been saying it since i saw the draconification cutscene - we’re getting dragon lore dlc

[@jonathonseilhan1555]

​@@Gzilla313 this I literally what I think to the letter

[@Shinntoku]

I think Zelda has the whole triforce, that's why the whole symbol showed up while sealing Calamity Ganon. The secret stones are their own thing, all they do is enhance the natural power of the wielder. Shards of the Triforce have never done that before.

[@1107Archangel]

I think it's just associated with holy power so the symbol popped up, I'm of the insane mind we are getting a third game since kohga seems to possibly be alive yet he just team rockets away in the last fight, and if you do all shrines you get a skin showing a prior hero was a zonai/dragon person and what way to end a trilogoy then with the trifecta object itself, plus given the nature of the triforce it would be weird to basically inject a massive set of 3 triangles into your heir throughout generations to seal ganondorf when you could just use the triforce to destroy ganondorf completely, I feel like the zonai took their creation back after seeing the harm evil beings could do with even 1 piece of it, and sealed it in their domain/sacred realm.

[@stuartdparnell]

You'd think Sonia would notice Zelda has the triforce of wisdom...?

[@kitkat7074]

@@stuartdparnell why would she?

[@oranjesus49]

yeah, like the stones of the sages in OoT or many other Zeldas, there is the Triforce and then a bunch of holy sacred stuff that belongs to sages, masters or whatever they call them in the game. I also think Zelda has the whole Triforce the entire time, but she can't use it.

[@fellowpassenger_54-67]

Quite a shame tbh, her triforce/sealing powers were really cool in botw, it makes sense that she can’t use it anymore due to spamming it for 100 years straight But it would’ve been awesome to see Zelda fight ganondorf with her sealing powers But at least it looks like she gets to keep her time powers, that’s better than nothing

[@Methrael]

Interesting to note - Sonia's tribal tattoos as a priestess to the Zonai include the triforce in the tattoo. You'll see it just below the Zonai eye on the back of her lower hand, with the triforce on her wrist.

[@9tim80]

I had the same thoughts a few days back. The three elemental dragons having names similar to the goddesses are no coincidence. It's very likely that Din, Nayru and Farore were Zonai (and thus thought of as gods) who helped "create" (establish) Hyrule. Then they left the Triforce behind when they disappeared into the sky. All this came up when I remembered that the Triforce is the ancient Japanese symbol "mitsuuroko" which means "three scales." Dragons' scales?

[@no1guy825]

blegth. the Golden Goddesses that literally created matter, law and life from nothing?! And then the Triforce itself?!....those clumsy goat creatures? Not a chance.

[@snakeEyedPirate]

Something to add to this theory is that if you talk to the goddess statues at the springs of power, wisdom, and courage, they call the dragons "golden spirits" even though they are clearly not golden. Also as a side note, if these dragons are golden spirits then they can also have a connection with the light spirits in Twilight Princess (where that are actually golden spirits). In TP, when the light spirits are summoned from their springs (which requires the use of light tears) the same water splash animation occurs similar to that of the dragon memories in TOTK.

[@1107Archangel]

additionally they also refer to the dragons specifically as she's, I kinda believe the dragons are the actual goddesses and the goddesses where just ancient zonai, as I believe hylia was also a zonai, as it explains why zelda her reincarnation in skyward has the only set of pointed ears and demise does mention she looked nothing like her original divine form, I think they just appeared as gods due to technology and the powers they held, as in totk the water temple bears nayru's mark on the elephant statues eyes at the boss rooms entrance and is credited as the source of all the water, Nayru in the legend made all the water in hyrule and it is zonai architecture, much like I believe the ancient goron city more then likely helped shape the land that now covers what we know as the depths where dinrall, or Din who created the earth flies around, another thing that I think gives a bit of evidence towards this is all 3 "zonai" dragons go into the depths while Zelda as a dragon does not, meaning they must have been familiar with the land below hyrule, and tho they lost most of there sense of self, they still roam the places that held the most sentiment to them.

[@lukestarkiller1470]

@@1107Archangel that’s honestly a really cool theory

[@Dan-kg9no]

@@1107Archangel everybody in ss has pointed ears

[@1107Archangel]

@@Dan-kg9no I mean like pointed pointed every has pointed tips yes but Zelda's ears are much longer and more pronounced then the rest, link and the gang have almost human ears just they end in short points

[@BoredandAngry]

They were the descendants of the three dragon gods.

[@MondayKnight92]

Heavy spoiler: why is everyone I see calling the secret stones tears, THEY AREN'T TEARS, the titular tears is ZELDA'S! The stones don't even LOOK like tears, they look like Magatama

[@Gzilla313]

Exactly, the Light Dragon's tears falling to the ground and creating the geoglyphs are the titular Tears of the Kingdom

[@MatthiasW97]

What? For me they are clearly in a Tear Shape. Not the perfect Symmetrical version but like you would draw it flowing out the side of the eye. More natural looking than the perfect droplets 💧 But yes they are in game not related at all to tears

[@pokemonmaster1505]

Who cares? They look "enough" like tears for it to be okay for people to call them tears, it can be both the stones and Zelda's memory tears.

[@Whitelisted_Productions]

I just call them Tears cause I’m too lazy to say secret stones even though I know the they’re not THE tears of the kingdom, even though I think they’re designed to look like tears

[@johnsantos507]

​@@MatthiasW97Really?! Those stones looks similar of yin and yang.🤷🏿‍♂️

[@StevenElseyArt]

Great theory! I totally agree that Dinraal, Farosh, and Naydra used to be mortal. If you look at the ears of all four dragons in TotK, the Light Dragon has very Hylian ears while the other three have more Zonai-like ones!

[@adamantlotus]

I wanna see the story of how they became dragons in a DLC

[@lilo7770]

​@@adamantlotus Imagine if the Frostbite/Ember/Charged sets used to be theirs?

[@1107Archangel]

@@lilo7770 since the sets fit link, I think they where sets worn by hylians/humans that worshipped the zonai that turned into the dragons as zonai are pretty tall, given link is a pretty short lad those clothes would be huge, and I think getting the charged set the ruins show more then one person wearing the set in a mural if i recall right.

[@adamantlotus]

@@lilo7770 that would be really cool

[@GeneralOlde]

I love how TOTK has the three core characters, Link, Zelda, and Ganondorf, exemplify their respective pieces of the Triforce through their actions. Zelda in particular manages to exemplifies all three aspects (the Wisdom to formulate her long-term plan to save Hyrule, the Power to master her time abilities she uses in the Imprisoning War, and the Courage to give up herself to restore the Master Sword).

[@Playsforfun0]

I have a bit of a theory but I am going to enter it down to keep people from spoilers: So my theory is that gloom hands were made to resemble Rauru's hand and represent Ganondorf's hatred for him. I mean that's all that would've been in his view and memories for between 1,000 to 1,000,000 years of having that hand on him. so yeah I think he used that to give him an idea.

[@lukaswithakay]

The gloomhands are actually a return of the floormasters from Wind Waker. Look em up! You’ll see the similarities.

[@Playsforfun0]

@@lukaswithakay but I think my theory makes a bit of sense considering the overall thing: evil demon king is held down by a hand and plots to use evil versions against them

[@user-eer555]

And they are all left hands, the opposite hand from rauru's right hand

[@Frankthegb]

Between 1,000? What? The Great Calamity that we know of, when the Guardians were put to use, was 10000 years ago, which means that’s the ABSOLUTE MINIMUM amount of time Ganondorf was sealed for

[@riallebalfour4767]

Don’t forget the Zoni’s three eyes. Rauru seemed to need his middle eye open when sealing Ganon.

[@shartsmcginty8056]

And when Rauru's eye is open, the eyelids make it look a lot like the Sheikah eye, which also resembles the Zonai symbol on the Wooden Shield you get at the beginning.

[@EvenFox]

They often use their “courage” and “wisdom” eyes and limit themselves to their “power”

[@riallebalfour4767]

@@EvenFox Oh?

[@riallebalfour4767]

@@shartsmcginty8056 True.

[@no1guy825]

it opened when he blasted the Molduga, and, less significantly when he was pissed at Ganondorf for killing Sonia

[@Moon-Vixen]

I'm so glad I'm not the only one who noticed this about the dragons. idk if I agree with the stones being the triforce, as I think Zelda has had it inside her all this time and didn't know it, BUT there's no way the 3 dragons aren't Zonai. dragon-Zelda's ears are different from the other 3, who are much more similar to Rauru's giant ears. my personal theory is this: the springs already existed, as monuments to the 3 goddesses, and where places of worship. and places of worship tend to have some form of shrine maiden to take care of them. I think the 3 armor sets were garb worn by those who served their respective springs, and the head maidens (as the statues refer to all 3 as explicitly female) were the ones to swallow their stones in order to devote themselves entirely to their duty, and in doing so, were named after the goddess they served.

[@conner8319]

You could say Zelda turned back into Hylia technically. Which thinking about it could inform why she decided to became mortal back in the past.

[@sawa-san5417]

This is my theory as well! the connections make a lot of sense, and it's a parallel to Zelda, the reincarnation of Hylia and a priestess in some regards, becoming a dragon herself

[@mrbiscuits001]

I don’t think the dragons were zonai. It’s stated in game that they’re spirits, so in my mind they were never dragonified. In my mind the three dragons are just forms that the spirits of the golden goddesses take.

[@Moon-Vixen]

@@mrbiscuits001 you'll have to give more to go on than that, bc everything in game says otherwise. in the memories, we're shown they know that eating a secret stone will turn you into a dragon, because history told them so. how you lose yourself to become an immortal dragon, and that is why it's forbidden. if it's happened in order to become historical knowledge, then the resulting dragon/s exist, and it's far more logical to say this is an origin story for them than it is to say these 3 dragons are entirely unrelated (even though the two we see eat stones become almost identical to the original 3, showing this is exactly the kind of dragon one becomes after eating a stone, unlike say, the gleeok type of dragon) and the ones from history were killed before the events of botw or something and are just entirely unseen. it also doesn't make sense from a narrative perspective. the entire main themes of this game is dragons, eating stones to become dragons, and Hyrule's history as we know it isn't actually accurate. why make dragons and becoming a dragon a central part of the entire game's plot and end climax if it *isn't* trying to say the 3 others came into being in the same way? as well, the zonai we see and the 3 dragons share a lot of traits. the white hair with colored undertones is identical to the two zonai we see, as well as their large floppy ears and "goat like" faces, which the designers specified was their intent when designing the dragons. meanwhile both Zelda and Ganon's have very obviously different features, such as the shorter ears and differently shaped snouts, as well as fully colored hair. all markers to show the way one's original biology affects how the resulting dragon appears. I think it also doesn't make sense to say they're the 3 all powerful golden goddesses who created the whole world and everything in it, are now *servants* of the 3 springs that represent the pieces of the small gift of their power that they left behind, and is represented by a statue of the lesser goddess also left behind to protect it? that just doesn't make any sense ether. whatever they once were, they're spirits now because they've dedicated themselves as servants to the spring and are no longer "human", and no one has the power to turn them back as no one remembers their original form. it makes far more sense for them to have once been zonai priestesses (all are referred to as explicitly female), like Sonia once was a priestess, who wished to forever serve their springs, who ate the 3 stones (that would then make them an even 10 instead of an odd 7) and were named after the goddesses representing each spring to honor their dedication of giving up both their lives and deaths for eternal servitude. but if you have more evidence to the contrary, I am absolutely all ears.

[@mrbiscuits001]

@@Moon-Vixen what more do I need to give? It’s confirmed by devs in botw that the dragons are spirits and that they’re the spirits of the goddesses watching over the world. If the process is called drachonification that means dragons existed before the first drachonification process too.

[@lukestarkiller1470]

I think if this is true it would confirm that even the earliest point in the game takes place a long time after all the previous games, and Rauru is simply founding a new Hyrule like what happened at the end of Wind Waker. I think that would clear up most problems with the timeline placement, but I have seen some good arguments for it still taking place before Skyward Sword

[@Frankthegb]

Rauru pretty obviously intentionally let go of his seal on Ganondorf, because the arrival of Link was what he had been waiting for all that time

[@no1guy825]

is it obvious? must be if you had to mention it.

[@TaKKun1123]

I love how I stumbled upon your videos after years of watching your old pokemon content, happy to have found you again 🎉🎉

[@liamruiz3196]

This is a great theory! It really goes in depth on how the secret stones resemble the triforce in many ways, because they may be the triforce broken down. There is one thing that I thought of though, and it’s that maybe the 3 dragons, Naydra, Farosh and Dinraal, we’re the golden goddesses Nayru, Farore and Din respectively, who became dragons not by swallowing secret stones, but by swallowing the piece of the triforce that comes from them. That’s why they seem so much more powerful than Zelda in her light dragon form, and the secret stones are sort of downscaled versions of the triforce, except that it just augments the dormant power within its wielder instead of giving the wielder the selected power from its piece of the triforce. If the secret stones really are meant to be weaker versions of the triforce, then just how powerful were the golden golden goddesses when they turned into dragons? That’s terrifying to think about. Your theories are so much fun to watch, dude! Keep up the good work!

[@1107Archangel]

I think the same the goddesses became the dragons, tho I think they weren't really "gods" just zonai that appeared as gods due to powers and technology to be gods, like the water temple generates infinite water has zonai architecture and bears nayru's symbol on it and she was in legend the creator of the waters of hyrule, I think people back then just saw them as gods since humans hadn't advanced very far, we see in skyward the robots in lanayru seem to run on the same energy of totk's zonai machines so even back then their tech was insane to what humans could do. Tho i do think they just ate a stone to become immortal and hide the triforce, as I don't think the portals they used to go through in botw are there becuz some weird forcefield hid the sky islands I think that was just them returning to the sacred realm. But with everything demon king related coming to a head this cycle they stayed circling the depths and hyrule watching over the events unfolding more carefully then when it was just his leaking power that built up every few centuries, my guess is its possible if we failed and ganon ran rampant they would use the triforce as almost a reset switch much like I think they did for the depths and they used zonait to save the structures they needed sending it into the sky, like the water temple to create new water on this fresh slate of hyrule, also why there machines virtually live forever continuing building and preparing zonait devices.

[@LambskinsJr]

loving this new channel toby :)

[@kotlolish]

Toby came to the same conclusion as me.. TRUE TRIFORCE THEORY BABY! But yea...!

[@raffaelm6558]

That is really insane and I love it. I actually wondered if the dragons had been humans before like Zelda and this part makes so much sense especially considering the outfits.

[@themightynemo2144]

Idk if anyone notices this but in the cutscene where Zelda’s restoring the master sword you can see the triforce on her hand, what it means idk but it’s something I never hear people talk about

[@scottmeinel7782]

Nice to see you making Zelda theories Torrey.

[@JohnKrahenbuhl]

I can't believe that I am your 8k subscriber thought I subscribed in the early days of this channel.

[@laMoria]

3:00 sonia's hand features the triforce. Not the funny little triangles on rauru's dress, but the actual 3 triangle picture.

[@caterwak]

i had the same thought that the stones were fragments of the triforce, i just love that idea

[@GameExcel]

An Absurd Zelda Theory

[@vivid8979]

4:13 Note in this one.. "Gone" in terms of physically absent but is probably hidden somewhere else...

[@Lasthunterofagartha]

That light leaving him was the secret stone in his forehead being destroyed when he was a dragon as you literally stab it

[@vivid8979]

4:13 Note in this one.. "Gone" in terms of physically absent but is probably hidden somewhere else in obscurity..

[@StickMaster500]

Hopefully, the eventual DLC for TOTK will bring light to this

[@WanderingWriter]

I hope the next game, with the knowledge that Farosh, Dinraal, and Naydra were once mortals, focuses on maybe trying to rescue them from their immortal forms

[@lukaswithakay]

Still wish the translators had come up with something better than “secret stones”. “Goddess tears” or something alike woulda been better.

[@Gzilla313]

I keep wanting to call them Sacred Stones

[@stormshadowoffire]

Would be sick if we got a sequel to ToTK about an ancient zonai named Vaati who's goal is to find the triforce and wish ganondorf back into the world. Have him succeed by the end where we have to fight both of them Let Zelda be a companion or maybe even let us take control of her.

[@probenfetchak8076]

Or even better the original Vaati from the older games that was reincarnated as a Zonai and both Vaati and Zant make a return where the two work together as Allie’s and Ganondorf appears when least expected

[@voltron77]

Or, when he summons Ganondorf, Demise arrives and the dead spirit of Ganondorf who his body has been taken by Demise helps Link. A companion Ganondorf would be amazing.

[@lukaswithakay]

@@voltron77 Sadly, they would never do that for a mainline game. I do love that the villains are playable in the Hyrule Warriors games though.

[@voltron77]

@@lukaswithakay Yeah

[@probenfetchak8076]

@@voltron77 sounds like another cool idea

[@Victor-dm4qv]

I give this video an A+, for being extra ABSURD! I am not a fan of the whole concept of "Anything in the past Zelda games could simply be exaggerated legends, so everything you did in those games did or did not happen, has meaning or has no meaning." That is like saying most of Wind Waker did not happen, as it was all exaggerated by the generations that retold the story of the Hero of Winds again and again. Oh, is that your favorite game? Oops, I guess most of it did not actually happen. Wind Waker being one of my favorites as well, hearing that would bum me out. Also, as for the dragons, we can easily tell that they were of the Zonai people by their ears and scaly faces. The only exception is the Light Dragon who has smaller ears and hair growing from its face, rather than long ears and a scaly face. In fact, that is one of my main reasons for believing the Zonai to be descended from the true dragons, which are considered deities, and why the secret stones that were gifted to them turn them into immortal dragons. The concept of the secret stones being reformed pieces of the triforce is interesting, but it has no evidence to make it worthy of being a theory. I do not count the triforce pattern on clothing, as well as Ganondorf wanting one for himself, as being enough to even consider the secret stones being the triforce. The triforce is significant to all people in Hyrule, so it often appears on peoples clothing, equipment, etc. And the secret stones are powerful artifacts, so of course the power hungry and genocidal tyrant Ganondorf would kill to have one.

[@ShiroKage009]

Even the first queen has a tattoo of the triforce. There is definitely something somewhere.

[@Mr._Galaxywide]

It could also be that when the tears were created they were made to turn people into dragons specifically as a way to prevent Ganon from achieving his demon Boar form, which is always more powerful the his gerudo form thus further suppressing his power.

[@rockowlgamer631]

If the triforce did split into secret stones, we got the 4 sages, rauru's, sonia's, and thr 3 dragons. 9 secret stones in total, 3 per triforce piece.

[@OwlDSign]

and mineru's?

[@rockowlgamer631]

@@OwlDSign true but there was another one who had to eat first and become a dragon before becoming Taboo so that would've made 11, so I guess 10

[@SeanWMODonnell]

You can place brightbloom seeds on vehicles.

[@ashleyblack7419]

Well Minish cap is part of the lore so anything zelda uses could be said to be the "light Force" Vaati was after. Her Time manipulating powers only came with Ocarina of time, they were not present before OOT released. The bright light leaving Ganondorf's body is most likely the mystery stone he swallowed to become a dragon. My personal theory is that BOTW and TOTK play in the adult timeline entirely. The newly found Hyrule of Rauru is the resurface land of Hyrule after the flood. Link Zelda and Ganondorf lost the triforce as it was used in WW by the king of Hyrule. The king wanted the new land to be "Your land" instead of Hyrule. the Rito are also only available in WW and the open world titles. Ganondorf was most likely revived by Twinrova/Vaati/Ghirahim pick your poison. here is why I doubt ToTK explains the events after SS >We know for a fact at least 1 of the timelines found it's conclusion due to the places in Hyrule. >if Totk's Ganondorf was sealed shortly after SS it would mean that a second ganondorf was hidden under Hyrule castle all along which would break the story somehow I think especially since Vaati had the entirety of hyrule searched in the minish cap I also like to believe the mystery stones are just more artifacts like Midna's crown

[@Purexfallenxangel90]

i like to place BOTW and TOTK in an alternate timeline off of skyward sword as when they defeat demise in the past there was no dropping of the islands so anything is possible in that some people who had managed to remain hidden and safe on the land slowly became the people that the zonai interact with. given the triforce was never discovered could account for the lack of its mention as regardless of timelines Hylia would still have been a recognized goddess.

[@riemerdijkstra5974]

A little bit of headcanon (not even a theory). What if the 3 dragons were actually 3 different links from 3 different timelines (which is why the 3 dragons would respond to 1 of the 3 golden goddesses). And because the dragons are immortal they would persist trough the inevitable timeline merge and be around for BotW and TotK.

[@Zoruachi]

TOTK felt very definitive for this section of the story (Depending on how one interprets the timeline), but this theory makes another sequel game seems needed to truly uncover all of the secrets of the Zonai

[@mayanightstar]

This makes SO MUCH sense

[@speedrasar5123]

Loving this theory!! When I was playing the game I thought maybe all the sages but the wind sage ate a stone to travel into the future as well given the elemental powers of the dragons. That wasn’t the case but was disappointed they didn’t even mention the the other dragons origins. Really hope they pick this up in the DLC

[@fartjokez3258]

You got my subscription. I realized I watch a lot of your videos

[@Kaiserker]

reminds me of my decaforce theory, I like this theory too!

[@astralaegis6283]

Secret Stone is such an underwhelming name. I wish they called them Sage's Stones or something like that.

[@michaellane5381]

Interesting side note; in Age of Calamity TotK's reveal makes it possible we never saw her mother in that cutscene, just her dragon form grieving.

[@dikayevertear3509]

The big hole in that theory is obviously that the Triforce has existed throughout Hyrule's history and was the focal point in the events surrounding Ocarina of Time. My theory is that these Secret Stones are called that due to the fact that they replicated the Triforce's power so well. Like how the Shikah can replicate light arrows, the Secret Stones replicate the Triforce's power enhancement.

[@chronic_daydreamer]

I’m fairly certain that the light spewing from Draganon’s head is from the final blow of the Master Sword. The light is what destroys his darkness, after all. And considering it has been imbued with sacred light for millennia augmented and amplified by Zelda’s secret stone, it makes perfect sense it would spew out of his head afterward. Alternatively it could be energy from the shattering of his secret stone. Or both. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@perestrelo6808]

Hi Toby, I was rewarching the Zelda diary form botw and she says that she had a dream with a beautiful woman speaking to her, but her voice couldn't reach Zelda, Zelda also mentioned she couldn't tell if that woman was from this another world or if it was a goddess. Do you think it could be Hylia herself or Sonia? Also she had this dream after all her training on all 3 different spring, power, courage and wisdom. So I really think it was hylia trying to communicate to Zelda that she has the power of the triforce

[@robyntaylor257]

It also works with how we see both the triforce and the secret stones changing their physical size

[@eggy46]

I really like this theory. Not absurd but very interesting and it makes sense with the lore!

[@HandlelessTML]

Every time I want to say this makes no sense, I remember the name of this channel is AbsurdZeldaTheories. Well played sir.

[@joejester61105]

Rewatch the scene were they (Zelda/Sonia/Raruu) destroy the school of maldugas and pay close attention to the center of the energy blast.

[@2thguyj]

Great theory, but multiple games have gems or jewels that hold power that aren’t triforce fragments. Really interesting take though.

[@jnrosenb]

Regarding the second theory, I don't think the tears are the triforce. The tears act as a enhancement of an individual's powers. Which means, they are all the same. this is why sonia's stone was usable by ganondorf, and rauru's was used later on by zelda. And while for zelda it granted time powers, for rauru it was light (and same for sonia with time vs ganondorf with darkness). The triforce has never been shown to have this effect. The power triforce does not grant the same power as the courage or the wisdom one. Also, for the triforce, putting it all together makes it more powerful (since the goal is always to complete it). I would think that, if the tears are the triforce, then Ganondorf would have felt compelled to actually gather the tears, instead of leaving them hidden in the dungeon. He was not trying to get them, instead he was content with impeding the champions to reach them.

[@Triforce404]

If you check any dragon parts you collect from Zelda. It all glows with shades of red, green, and yellow. This means she still has the Triforce when she defeated the ganon incarnation in BoTW.

[@slateoffate9812]

I prefer the idea that the complete Triforce was within Zelda all along, and she needed to unlock them, with Courage being the last when Zelda put herself in the line of fire to protect Link, similar to Link in Skyward Sword. Theory Idea: the Zelda in the Mural of the original Calamity is the same Zelda from Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom, the mural taking place after Rauru sealed Ganondorf and before Zelda became the Light Dragon.

[@SkateDaddyDrewski]

I have a theory. Yunno how the Triforce isn't in botw? Well the 3 dragons are. Maybe they were draconified by the 3 pieces. Like how Zelda turned to a dragon by eating the stone.

[@allstarzombie_7]

My favorite thing about this game is how link is basically Thanos and has 6 different god rocks and a magic gauntlet, yet can still die to a Little stone monster.

[@lordryder555]

i should have seen this really really really "plain in front" of me theory

[@SarahsSnakeShop]

imo its 9 pieces - each one split into 3 makes sense to me. but i still really like this idea!

[@tristanalain9239]

Maybe the Triforce of Wisdom is whole and complete and still in the Royal Bloodline, but they gave it a different name for extra safety, and the Triforces of Power and Courage are the ones split into the Stones. 10 goes more easily into 2 than it does 3 afterall.

[@Tony_AM009]

This actually connects to theories I made about the game after seeing the memories. 1) As you speculated in the video, the dragons in BotW and TotK were not always dragons. They were Zonai or some other mortal beings that had undergone the draconification process. 2) I thought that, while more powerful, the Triforce was made of the same material as the secret stones. I wouldn't have thought that the secret stones(which I wish were called sacred stones instead) were shards of the Triforce itself similar to the shards you would have to collect in Wind Waker. 3) The Golden Goddesses of legend were never deities, but rather ancient Zonai. In one memory, I believe it was either Ganondorf or Raaru who said that the Zonai in the past were mistaken for gods.

[@Tarripin6266]

This was super fun i didnt consider the magatoma in that way. I thought maybe the are this games virsions for the medallions you need from OoT. This is a fun way to explain the dragons as well. My theory for them is while din, naru, and farosh were the avatars of the creation gods they swallowed the stones to battle some evil but as we know they became mindless and now have lost there purpose forever garding the divine springs for the those who pray to them.

[@PajamaPantsClan]

I wondered about the dragons too. I like this theory a lot!

[@Big_Dai]

Yes.. and? Nintendo consciously made the choice to use those stones instead of the Triforce. That plus all the weird and nonsensical story changes are obviously made to keep things fresh and different.. that way Zelda will never be predictable, and they can continue to milk it for all time.

[@WikipediaLover94]

I thought it was clear the first time I saw the cutscene after beating that game that Link and the Ancient King and Queen were using the triforce to bring Zelda back

[@Shrekinspace]

why are we still referring to the secret stones as “the tears of the kingdom” when the game makes it very clear that the “tears of the kingdom” are the tears the light dragon/zelda shed? as far as i remember the secret stones are never compared to tears in game, while we have literal tears in the game that play a massive role in the story. it was a good way to refer to the stones prior to the release but continuing to do so will just muddy things and confuse them.

[@cato3277]

Zelda channels starting calling them Tears before release because of their shape, which is ridiculous because they look nothing like tears - they’re magatama.

[@MatthiasW97]

@@cato3277 you cant tell me that you never in your life seen droplets/tears be drawn that form

[@OwlDSign]

why it cant have more than one meaning

[@Shrekinspace]

@@OwlDSign it can, but there is nothing in game that connects tears to the stones

[@Shrekinspace]

@@MatthiasW97 can you? when have you ever seen a tear drawn like a magatama?

[@azurebluegames]

A little bit Off-topic but: -When Zelda turned into a dragon to restore the Master Sword, didn't she essentially create a time paradox? Let's say that from her birth until the events of BOTW still play out, at one point there would have been 2 Zeldas existing up until TOTK begins. 🤔 While it doesn't seem to adversely affect the world or anything, it just seems kinda overlooked. -The stone which Zelda received that helped her return to the past was from Rauru's hand. I believe it's the same one she swallowed too. So 2 of the same stone existed at one point in the past. She technically wasn't a Sage of Time until Sonia died. Also, Sonia's stone was always with Ganon and it's that the one he swallowed. -When Link sent the Master Sword back in time, at some point there would have been 2 existing - one on Zelda dragon's head and the other in Korok forest. -Lastly, I'm very much interested in the pre-BotW timeline (that Zelda didn't change) and what the Sages did if they were never given her request to help Link. (which may be the reason why the 4 BotW champions never became sages in the first place perhaps?)

[@syeo501]

In TP, Ganondorf got the Triforce of Power when Zelda sent Link back into the past in OoT, the sages naming this the Divine Prank. Now in TotK, as Zelda has the Triforce or at least the piece of wisdom, does this also mess up things?

[@zomfragger]

The springs predate hyrule. The spring of courage is the remains of the earth spring. The spring of power is the remains of the Skyview spring. As for the triforce canonically it when not in possession of three chosen vessels it is stored in the sacred realm to which the entrance is the temple of time, hyrule castle, or the korok forest.

[@theluckyloafer]

So the “hero” in the mural looks like who you become when you equip the aspect of the hero. Is he a zonai? Is he the only hero that isn’t a hylian? Is this the first hero?

[@mazus_io]

The hero from the mural could even be a descendant of Rauru and Sonia since he looks partly beast like but still maintain a humanoid form akin to zonai

[@TheArtisticGamer7]

As soon as I saw the memory of Draconification, which i think was like my third and i did them pretty early, I knew that the three goddess dragons were 100% Zonai. As a side note I also realized while watching this that I think the energy leaving ganon was the sacred stone disappearing and going to the past to complete the circle letting zelda acquire it. Ownership goes Sonia-Ganon-Zelda Zelda just gets it right before she goes to before it got stolen in the first place. But I gots a theory on the three Dragons: In fact, idk how it fits timeline wise but at this point im just trying to separate that entirely, it feels more and more like a rebooted timeline too me and I dont blame them cause it was obvious they had only released an official timeline because we all obsessed over connecting things. Some of them were loosely connected but it wasnt their intention to fill out a grand timeline of games. But I digress, I have a theory based on some dialogue you get about the Zonai. They had great power and were considered gods. Okay, they probably had innate powers and had secret stones that amplified them. In fact, those powers are likely Lightning, Fire, Water/Ice. Din Nayru and Farore were Zonai with such powers/stones. They together, in their time, used the sacred power to enhance their abilities even further and provide shelter to a number of prehistoric races that had begun sprouting out by carving out hyrule from the rest of its continent, and providing specific ecosystems for them to thrive in. Zonai as a greater society can go a few ways, They could possibly have seen the other races as inferior and sought to treat them as pests/beasts, They could have been a dying race and simply died out and a small few were survivors, They could be from the moon (gravity and sky stuff, also popular Japanese myth cant remember the name tho rabits on the moon) and simply went back home leaving this world for the new races, the world itself could have been dying and only a handful of zonai roamed the skies somewhere else on the planet and the three dragons shaped Hyrule to save some of it who knows. But whatever the case, after Carving out this land and saving these races, they swallowed their stones and became the dragons to watch over the land/maybe even protect the triforce. The thoughts on the sort of religious clothing in this makes me think they had followers for a time before deciding to swallow the stones. It is possible they are the reason that Draconification is so hush hush with the zonai too, they may have started that. My personal favorite hope is Vaati was a Zonai and was the cause of whatever drove the others away from the land/their home, and if we get a third theyll find Vaati like entombed somewhere in the depths waiting for Sacred Power to awaken and we get a triforce centric game to cap a trilogy. Makes me think if that ends up being the case we could even theorhetically get the minish (what if THEY made the statues and those are like minish cities we just cant see them) but also we may have Vaati trying to sacrifice the dragons to get their sacred power/collect sacred stones if this theory is more correct etc. I think adding the minish would actually be a really good idea too, they originally wanted to have them in BoTW but couldnt figure it out, so maybe that will be the expansion to the world in the next one, easy to excuse a loadscreen when youre shrinking down to itty bitty size and would allow them to make big cities full of stuff to find without having to make the greater map bigger.

[@newerguy2738]

Long essay lol

[@TheArtisticGamer7]

@@newerguy2738 yeah it got away from me lol

[@Aaron-hv4hr]

The stone that left dragondorf disappeared for all we know. The stone Zelda has she got from Rauru since the beginning.

[@derzeldagamer7931]

I interpreted the light that comes from Links hand as he, Rauru and Sonia turn Zelda back, was not the triforce but everytime a teardrop memory was "picked up", his hand began to drip and it seemed to me that what happened there, was that Link absorbed the memory, as it is a part of Zeldas soul which he then, once completed, transfers back into Dragon-Zelda. To support this idea, these tears got scattered immediatly after Zelda transformed, maybe the loss of their soul and self that is described when one turns into a dragon is... what happened with the tears and which is why they gave Link insight to experiences Zelda made and stuff.

[@gingerestkitten]

Why are we talking about the triangles on Rauru’s poncho but not the fact Sonia has it tattooed to her arm?

[@ZhclTl]

The triangles on Rauru's clothing isnt the triforce, its force gems 😂

[@basedgodly1623]

Fun fact the secret stones are modeled after the golden ratio

[@BinknotLink]

2:48 i thought that the light was coming from his secret stone because link destroyed it

[@Japichan]

What stones did Farosh and Dinraal ingest? Lightning and Fire would make sense, but they were handed down to the Gerudo and Goron respectively. If we went by the medallions in OoT, Farosh could have the Forest stone but having the Shadow stone give fire powers for Dinraal wouldn't make much sense.

[@Gabriel-nw6lb]

The secret stones r neutral there is no fire secret stone

[@rickyr9092]

It seems to me this Ganondorf draws power from Demise not the triforce of power.

[@nzpowa._.6662]

Ngl, this remind me of a crackpot theory i had a long time ago, that ganondorf was gonna do a dark ritual with the tear to become a demon. It happen, sorta, but oh wee, it lead me to think maybe there was a ritual to put the triforce and uts purely holy power inside a single living being.

[@literallywhy6162]

I don’t know if this is being talked about anywhere else, but there are mentions of the Zonai descending from the heavens like gods, or being like gods to the Hylian people at first. What if there are no true gods in the Zelda universe at all, but the goddesses Hylia, Nayru, Farore, and Din are Zonai? The three goddesses came down to the surface of Hyrule and created the Triforce upon their departure-but if they’re still mortal beings, what if they were present for the deconstruction of the Triforce and consumed their pieces of it, becoming the three dragons we know as having their names?

[@betterlatethannever4529]

I’ve got a question. Where do you think the incarnations of the Link and Zelda are of the time right before Zelda traveled to the past? Like, we know a Ganondorf was born, wouldn’t that mean that somewhere else there was a link and Zelda born? My assumption is that they were still in reincarnating in the land of the Spirit tracks, but moved back as soon as they found out Raru reestablished Hyrule

[@boyboilNEO9055]

FUN FACT: the shock emitter has a horn that is the same as faroshes horn the ice and flame emitters both have the horn of there elemental dragon then and then the beam emitter has the light dragon horn then what is the cannon since the cannon has horns but no dragon looks like that not even the demon dragon maybe the time dragon who would be the time dragon then

[@lolzasouruhm179]

I feel like saying there are 10 it’s a bit confusing since the one Zelda has is the same as rarus so I would just say there were 9 created since the 4 sages the 2 zonai and the 3 dragons makes 9 which would make more sense cause the each part of the triforce would just be split into three parts. Idk it just makes more sense to me if it’s divisible by 3. But I definitely hope they give us the story fo how the other dragons came to be maybe that would be the dlc

[@haylalflynn6111]

Mmmh but what about the Ganondorf’s stone? If a piece of the triforce is destroyed, like Sonia’s/Ganondorf’s stone at the end of the game, what happens to the rest and to the land of Hyrule?

[@jgr7487]

aren't the Tears of the Kingdom too similar to the Triforce Shards we see in The Wind Waker & The Legend of Zelda games? as both sequel games end up with Hylians living outside Hyrule proper, a new Kingdom of Hyrule was to be founded once again. all we are missing is a duo of games in the Child timeline, in the 1st of which the Triforce is broken, followed by a game that ends in a new land similar to an expanded Hyrule (The Adventure of Link) or a New Hyrule (Spirit Tracks).

[@UnluckySuperstition]

Its interesting how much emphasis TotK has focused on the transmutation of beings after swallowing things. I mean from both Zelda and Ganon being the two biggest examples of transmutating to mindless 'divine' creatures from swallowing the power of their own respective secret stones- we also have the hints of the three main dragons themselves having been mortals at one point; and likely the origin examples that Mineru references as to why swallowing secret stone is expressly forbidden. But aside from the big examples, we also have the Kilton side quest with him swallowing all of the bubbl gems, and while intitially gaining certain powers to detect other Bubbl frogs, he eventually transmutates into a blupee as a result of swallowing the gems Maybe you could even argue that the Deku Tree being corrupted and all the forest being screwed up, as a result of phantom ganon having been 'swallowed' by him (because the phantom is within the trees naval at the bottom of a chasm) It's the power of swallowing.

[@drinaldi2000]

Well, when Zelda holds the Master Sword and begins to heal it with sacred light, the light streams from the back of her right hands. I theorize that the Triforce is the source of the sacred light that heals the Master Sword, not the secret stone or the Light Dragon.

[@charlespackowski6620]

So basically Ganon from OOT is stronger than Ganon from TOTK because Ganon has only a fragment of a triforce piece while Ganon from OOT has a full triforce piece.

[@EsporHB]

Oh no. I should have known this video would spoil the ending.

[@AhsokaTanoEDITS4883]

If you think the three golden goddesses are the three dragons wouldn't that make them zonai? Bc the ears are long, the fur, and the horns remind me of zonai. Unless they just took the form of dragons that could also mean no swallowing a tear. They are goddesses and they created the triforce I think its very unlikely for them to swallow a tear. They took form of dragons and their spirits live inside those dragons. The triforce was present in botw and Zelda used it to defeat clamity ganon. When Zelda is healing the master sword in one of the memories could that be the triforce? Her scared power? It could be the tear, but tears don't grant control. I don't think it would be as powerful enough to heal the master sword...we also don't see Zelda useing it anywhere else so that could also not be possible.

[@octapusxft]

The problem with this theory is that if the dragons have been around for so long, them the triforce in most of the older Zelda games is incomplete. I prefer the idea that the secret stones were forged with the power of the triforce but are not the triforce. They just amplify what the users already have. Ganondorf is shown to have his red powers even before getting the secret stone. So I believe that the LOZ trio already have their respective pieces of the triforce inside them but cannot fully use them or consider it their own power instead of something extra. This also helps explain why Link is simply superhuman in these games and other previous games

[@kikofernandez9184]

i think TOTK and BOTW are in the same continuity becouse the time travel in SS, so in the original timeline where link wishes for demise ends theres no zonais but theres zonai robots, what conflict with what TOTK said of the zonai coming from the sky, so i propuse this, when hylia first sended hyrule into the sky she needed help, she couldnt afford the risk of the seal to be broken after all, so she asked for the zonai in the sky to leave their home to protect the seal and left the skyloft to the hylians. After a hundred year however the fights prove to grave for them and they are wipe out, them SS start and demise is defited setting that timeline in motion. This leads to the normal timeline we know but without the fallen hero timeline going for minish cap four sword ocarina of time where it split into adult and young and the rest is unchanged. In the past however we are sent right when the seal is forged but the hylians were never sent into the sky, once demise is defited the plan is stoped since there is no danger, however the zonai with their kind nature descend to help rebuild after the war with their powers just as happened in TOTK, and the timeline begin, since the zonai lived only in the sky the population was really low since there was very little land to live in and eventually less and less childs zonais are born leaving in the end only 2. The rest stays of the timeline is the fallen hero timeline with BOTW and TOTK at the end, i think this explains the wipe out of the zonai in both timeline and how both hylians and zonai can be the one descending from the sky. It also fits into ganondorf since he doesnt appear in those games is only gannon which can be explain as malice the same concept as calamity ganon. The triforce would follow the games where it separeted and such until eventualy the royal family has control over them and is passed for generations until it gets to zelda in BOTW who use it to seal ganon in the castle. The tears in TOTK would be the same as in SS too. I think this is the best explination and it also fixes the whole isue about only one game changing the story if you fail

[@TanRequiem]

I had a weird thought that if link somehow got a hold of one of the tears, he would turn into an alternate Version of the Fierce deity.

[@master_atlas]

I am more inclined to believe the triforce itself has become a forgotten relic to Hyrule by the time Breath of the Wild and the 10,000 year calamity before took place. In other games, such as Smash Bros, the triforce can be seen on Link and Zelda so perhaps that is a representation of the light force being used to cast out darkness. I do have a theory of my own, what if Naydra, Daaraal, and Farosh swallowed them and became eternal dragons? The secret stones when swallowed create them, maybe the triforce pieces were wished to reside in the individuals that would become these dragons but due to being immortal, perhaps even a triforce wish itself keeping them in the embodiment of these spirits just so Hyrule can flourish. In terms of Ganondorf and how he plays into it, this is the first time we saw Ganondorf not obsessed with the power the artifact could grant him and instead took to the secret stones. Ganondorf in general would find a way to get them if it was possible, but maybe the triforce became part of some living entity, whether dragons or the princesses of the hyrulian royal family, I am convinced of that much at least. Plus, Ganondorf is a weird part of the story given he was sealed but didn't seem to have a previous vendetta before Rauru against Hyrule. However, to make it interesting, the 'sealing power' Zelda has, perhaps the hyrulean royal family learned to tap into the relic from wherever or it could be lost to time, there isnt a definitive placement.

[@Tyrannosaur6265]

Kept waiting for someone to call the damn secret stones a ‘Tear of the kingdom’, when I found out the stones had nothing to do with the title nearly shitted myself

[@pascalprincess]

i have slight alt take, what if the triforce was once wished on to make something to protect all races in the kingdom. and thus made 10 parts, one to protect each region. 8 for the land, 2 for below and above. Nayru having the sky one. Din the volcano/land Farorish the ground Each of the others given to royal lines of the kingdom. Goron Zora Rito Gurudo Deku - Speculation here, but the great deku tree having one would not surprice me at this point maybe his invisablilty is his power? Hylian Zonai

[@KumaBones]

In TotK, the lore says the triforce is represented by 3 animal aspects. (This is in one of the gameplay tips, and its also mentioned in one of the side quests) Owl - Wisdom Dragon - Courage Boar - Power I think this time around, Zelda got the Triforce of courage instead of the triforce of wisdom. (She also um... Yeah) The triforce of wisdom might be with Rauru's sister, since shes represented by the owl (her construct also uses an owl mask) Power might be the one that was broken up, and split

[@dcb6729]

I think Zelda had all 3 Triforces in these games. Because we definitely see them being projected out of her hand to destroy calamity Ganon. But we never see Link or Ganondorf with them. All the other games show the symbols with only one triangle lit up signifying the one Triforce they possess. But this one it was only Zeld that had it. Zelda possesses all 3 in botw and totk.