The Trolley Problem - High On Life

[@cargentiusg5289]

They start freaking out if you flip the switch back and forth in a really funny way

[@jibais38]

I was hoping to be able to block the trolley by switching it after the first wheels get off the turn but unfortunately you can't.

[@cargentiusg5289]

@@jibais38 see now I found out simply by being overly sadistic and laughing at their reactions "why do you keep flipping the switch?! I don't even care if i die I'll just be happy if you make a decision and stick with it" 😂

[@mrglass7133]

They should have the train come all the way around and run over either four or the one regardless of your choice

[@JackPitmanNica]

@@mrglass7133 That would be hilarious, if the track was just on a loop LOL

[@cargentiusg5289]

@@mrglass7133 or reversed and went down the other track

[@redtsun67]

I never understood this "moral dilemma". Clearly the choice is to not pull the lever at all. That way you only have to shoot one person instead of five people.

[@marcokonst4144]

It's not really a dilemma it's a thought experiment to see how u personally react to determine what normative ethical theories u align with, ur normally given the basic deontological choice of killing 1 over 5 but u could be a psycho and kill all to ensure equal suffering or just stand watch and learn

[@BrianatorFTW]

if you flip the switch, you can shoot 5 people instead, and shooting people is fun, you could even stab one for variety, but the one guy can only be shot or stabbed, not both, if you try both the second will just be done to a corpse, which is nowhere near as fun

[@Frog-bo7wv]

how come you stopped uploading

[@DP-ot6zf]

@@marcokonst4144 And when in life does anything like this ever happen?

[@lucbloom]

@@DP-ot6zf car A.I. when detecting a crash; it’s a real conundrum. Right now they’re programmed to hit the people least likely to sue.

[@goose7617]

Imagine if you could reverse the trolley and run over the opposite group as well--just as like a rogue decision lol

[@Johnnybravo40]

switch tracks in-between front and rear wheels. Multi-track drifting baby.

[@cpypcy]

@@Johnnybravo40 I was just about to suggest that too.

[@chubbysumo2230]

I have to wonder, given the other Easter eggs if there's a way to stop the trolley entirely, or get a to back up to get the other group.

[@AsbestosMuffins]

all parties will die eventually so I'll just expedite the process -murderer on the trolley problem

[@invisiblefan313]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y3_Cg42AiqaEj5Y

[@Sunny-td5hg]

Worlds slowest trolley, there was plenty of time to just free the one guy after switching the tracks.

[@_Image_Generator]

😂

[@yaderx1]

Heck, there was enough time to free the 8 of them before the train killed them.

[@AxtonTheObstagoon]

@@yaderx1 if you mean the unborn twins, yeah, she lied about them, so only 6

[@Jeru3]

I think there was even enough time to put the one guy with the others and then have all six of them die instead.

[@mikzpwnz_3199]

It's kinda a missed opportunity for a hidden objective to subvert the dilemma with creative ways to save everyone instead of going with the contrived problem. Shooting the wheels/axles to get to to stop, jamming the lever in a central position to derail it. Hitting it with Knivey causing it to spontaneously self destruct. The situation would be funnier showing all the ways it could be solved without falling into the contrivance of the trolley problem.

[@thegamingkeyblade7066]

Clearly the correct awnser is to get on the trolling and perform a spin move so that all of them die. You can't be wrong if you pick both awnsers

[@user-tf5lg7fc9s]

dear god, multi-track drifting!

[@dakotaraptor8544]

@@user-tf5lg7fc9s DEJAVU...

[@SK-mi5qv]

@@user-tf5lg7fc9s Seriously that should have been a thing. Also give an achievement a la: "So you like Tofu, eh?" or something.

[@AyyHotDogS]

@@SK-mi5qv Achievement Unlocked: No Witnesses

[@moyaienjoyer3037]

I love riding the trolling

[@SortableCrayon3]

Is it possible to flip the lever and cut the ropes on the one guy, and also shoot the purple guy to stop him from doing more genocides?

[@YoutubeIsRetarded689]

Nope.

[@YoutubeIsRetarded689]

Nope, you gotta pick.

[@tristangabales549]

@@KZbinIsRetarded689 well can you shoot the genocide guy anyways?

[@YoutubeIsRetarded689]

@@tristangabales549 Unfortunately you can't shoot everyone in this game, but you can shoot some really annoying people.

[@Bluedragon-iz3oo]

Alternative possibility: Flip the switch, stab the one guy before the trolley kills him, then stab the witnessess. This comment is brought to you by the Knifey gang

[@joshgribbon8510]

The slow trolley was a great move, I always picture it moving fast

[@JackPitmanNica]

Yeah in the original metaphor, it being fast is kind of the point. You have to react quickly between two unfavorable options. But in the game, that would be lame cause we need time to explore the HILARIOUS dialogue jajaja

[@SymbolsWriter]

The protagonist literally has a knife

[@davidgallardo4357]

And?

[@artisticcannibalism1350]

And they wasted a perfectly good opportunity for stabbing

[@mirceazaharia2094]

@@artisticcannibalism1350 And a perfectly good opportunity for cannibalism. And, speaking as a skellington, the opportunity to feast on their bone-equivalents.

[@SymbolsWriter]

@@davidgallardo4357 aside from the perfectly reasonable and sane suggestions of the other replies, knives are rather infamous for their uncanny ability and propensity for cutting ropes in half. Many a rope has been viciously slain at the non-existing hands of these unholy stabby fiends.

[@ironized]

@@SymbolsWriter that knife is half rope and seems to only want to stab, never cut. Maybe the knife refuses to cut ropes haha.

[@JarJarStudiosPlus]

what about the third option where yousa let the trolly roll over 5 and then shoot the last one?

[@DlSappeared]

Why shoot one of them if you can shoot all of them?

[@Eddie276]

Lol what a trash meme account.

[@JarJarStudiosPlus]

@@Eddie276 how rude!

[@jamesbevan9939]

@@JarJarStudiosPlus Just shoot the one who committed all the genocides

[@rafaeltiburcio6624]

@@DlSappeared save ammo but then again gatlians have infinite ammo anyway

[@zipp4910]

No way you get to save Dr. Venture in this game

[@SmashPortal]

Or you get to kill Rusty. Oh a Monarch can dream...

[@williambell3304]

You can kill him later anyway lol

[@Anthony-co1hj]

jeez, that animation of them dying is horrendous.

[@ironized]

Yeah though I suspect the logic is they didn’t want to invest in a part of the game that’s non-consequential and out of the way. I finished the game and never saw this.

[@Mirthful_Midori]

Animation? You're being a bit generous there, that was just a particle effect and they disabled the model. Kind of makes sense though, since it's just an unimportant joke thing.

[@v0ldy54]

@@Mirthful_Midori at least time that correctly ffs, the train barely touches them when they explode

[@IntegrityGames]

say you're a sociopath without saying you're a sociopath

[@GameFuMaster]

@@IntegrityGames isn't that already a given if you play the game?

[@WesternCommie]

They did an amazing job at explaining the problem. Even with the whole 'by acting, you are now responsible, when previously, no one would have been.' If only they added the 'fat man' dilemma.

[@MagnumForce51]

There should be a secret option where you switch it back before the rear wheels of the trolley reach the fork in the tracks and the rear wheels take the other path thereby derailing the trolley and saving everyone....Or it could backfire and somehow causes the trolley to kill everyone. Either way it would have been funny. :D

[@telegenicdragon8045]

Multi-track drifting

[@MichaelJFroelich]

@@Reiman33 yeah I don't like it either, the moral responsibility of anyone's death is with whoever created this situation, not whoever was forced to participate.

[@shadowsonicsilver6]

Holy crap, that’s Rusty Venture, the guy who does the Voice of the Don-Bot, another guy from Futurama, and I can’t put my finger on who the rest are unfortunately Edit: Wait, I know that squeaky nasally voice, that’s Tara Strong!

[@2pacTheTankEngine]

I was just mistakenly looking for Doc Hammer as a credit to that Rusty Venture voice then remembered it was James Urbaniak, and yeah he's right there in the IMDB credits for this

[@chachopaul695]

The scientist is Rich Fulcher who has been in a lot of bit parts on Adult Swim and Cartoon Network, he's also the shopkeeper.

[@shadowsonicsilver6]

@@chachopaul695 I’m too poor to own the game

[@PocketBeemRocket]

@@shadowsonicsilver6 do you at least have a decent graphics card or console?

[@SirIdiotkid]

Joel haver is one of the voice actors for the game, he also runs a KZbin channel where he and his friends upload a lot

[@Vordt_]

If you flip it so it would kill the one guy, and then flip it back theres a bit of dialogue where they go "What!? You switched it back??" and are surprised

[@vidiotsavant6561]

My gameplay is usually boringly vanilla, as I tend to play my game protagonists as I would behave myself. But, with dark-humored games like this, I like to see how much developers have anticipated. My first impulse here would've been to let the trolley proceed unhindered, then attempt to shoot the sole survivor.

[@harlequingnoll5]

I think it'd be funny if after the trolley commits to a direction you flip the switch again, the back wheels hit the new turn and launches itself off the tracks onto the switch where you probably are.

[@MagnumForce51]

Given how slow it was going I would guess it would either just stop moving entirely due to the opposing angles or would derail and flip over. :P

[@robleach1921]

Did I just hear Rusty Venture? Ok James Urbaniak... this game just keeps looking better. Why haven't I bought this yet?

[@thisisfitz731]

It's on Gamepass pal

[@kalkazar13]

It bothered me that they didn’t just allow us to use the knife we have for melee combat on that one guy’s ropes lol.

[@mooing_cowmilk]

I would've tried dying to the trolley first before a decision was made. it was fairly slow, maybe my corpse would stop it

[@dave93x]

I cannot for the life of me find the last chest in this area and the inner city area past the doors. Some chests in this game are really well hidden.

[@951pyro7]

They are easy

[@dave93x]

@@951pyro7 thanks for the helpful comment. I found them about a week ago anyway

[@wifsk484]

only reason id flip the switch is cus that genocide guy is honest about himself and he owns it

[@randomcracka3]

I kept switching it back and forth just to hear them freak out about it every time

[@TheBouregard]

Genocide guy is voiced by James Urbaniak a ka Dr. 0 from Fallout New Vegas or Doc Venture from the Venture Bros.

[@arcanefury3666]

You know those Tokyo Drift or Michael from the Good Place's knife solution look really good right now

[@illitero]

I hope James Urbaniak has more characters in this game. I really need to get it for the sake of how many fantastic voice actors were brought on

[@stevemize2164]

Don't you dare look away YOU WATCH ME DIE LIKE A F****** MAN 😂😂😂 I seriously almost pissed myself when I seen that. It never gets old

[@vishaansingh1019]

It's a reference to a scene from one of the Saw sequels, don't remember which. Line is taken verbatim.

[@stevemize2164]

I like this version better

[@stevemize2164]

But thanks for that

[@chillcannongames5758]

There's probly more diolage if you flip the lever back and forth as they plead.

[@jemery3]

They should of made it so you could have switched the tracks halfway through the trolley car so the car splits, rolls and than kills all of them 😂😂😂

[@therealsmiteistight3992]

true!

[@plapkoki4119]

U too tried multi track drifting

[@holdenabox4306]

Does the first guy sound a lot like rusty venture

[@gadaadyn8190]

I THINK IT IS

[@gergc4871]

In this situation you turn around, shove your fingers in your ears while saying lalalalalala as you walk away.

[@HallyVee]

Thereby actively committing four murders ;)

[@BraidensWorldProductions]

4:04 I know what I have to do but I don’t know if I have the strength to do it

[@yourethatmantis5178]

I like the ending where you chose to save Dr. Venture.

[@CreamTheEverythingFixer]

Hey James Urbaniak! Thats a pleasant surprise to hear him voice something.

[@samuraicupcake289]

(picks the one dude) "Where are my pesos dude?!"

[@iliakatster]

One of the people was definitely voiced by Doc Venture

[@modelcitizen1977]

There’s a whole trolley problem game that’s absolutely soul melting

[@baval5]

He didnt do it for the praise, he did it for all your pesos. This is why saving the 5 is the morally correct choice. The pink guy delivers.

[@Bramswarr]

freaky alien sex is the best motivation

[@Bramswarr]

the trolley problem is a psychopath's test of the hero; the objectively right answer is to find some way to save everyone but it isn't realistic. both pulls of the lever are the wrong choice, but they're the only options you have and one way or the other will lead to human suffering. the parameters are played with by making suggestions about the type of people on the tracks, which may matter, vs the mathematical proportions, which may also matter, to find the line between good and evil. but the only truth is that whatever decision you make, the consequences will haunt you. so when you get to the trolley, don't fret. use your best judgement and afterwards try to find out why all those people were tied to train tracks.

[@cudomoney]

the "reload from last checkpoint" really tickled my funny bone. i bet he wouldnt be so snarky if he knew he was a loading screen away from never being snarky again.

[@Darth_Chicken]

Flip the switch so the trolly moves twards the single individual then switch it back once the front wheels are on the point blades so the back wheels try to go the other way derailing the trolly.

[@jeteamleider3714]

In this time you could've pulled all six of them off the tracks

[@lucamessina2132]

Trouble with the trolley,eh? LOL

[@shadowsonicsilver6]

Solution: Tokyo Drift

[@FleyDragon]

**childhood trauma flashbacks**

[@mrspoon1259]

From what I've seen of this game is that it wouldn't be that much fun to actually play but its entertaining to watch clips.

[@a.jherbert5436]

It is fun. Basically Rick and Morty doom.

[@3rennentk]

Nah the gameplay is fun jus gotta up the difficulty normal mode is very easy

[@lrmcatspaw1]

"You watch me die" LUL

[@jacobbrink6059]

you could have just untied the guy given how long the trolley took

[@wranglerman270]

This brings to mind a bunch of stuff I forgot in an ethics class

[@perchipy7900]

I was so disappointed that there wasn’t a multitrack drifting option

[@TheMailmanOfSteel]

Is "Multi-track drifting!" an option? I feel like it should be...

[@livesinalazywonderland4021]

This morale dilemma is about PTSD, for example it’s why you’ll find this entire comment section joking about a “3rd option”, it’s a self protective mechanism were you can’t entertain an idea of only having two choices no matter how absurd they are. For anyone who was interested where this is coming from.

[@HallyVee]

That's a strange direction to approach it from, but I can see the angle. It's quite true that people refuse to admit they're between a rock and a hard place.

[@KILLKING110]

They got the voice actor of Dr Venture from Venture Bros to do one of his famous lines which crazy to see

[@MushroomBasher]

I've always wondered why can't people just untie everyone before the trolley comes? I wish they could of let you do it in this game though, it would of been funny if you could just untie them considering they made the trolley slow af 😂

[@alexmills1329]

The true dilemma is finding a way for the train to somehow ride down both tracks and stand safely to the side.

[@rileysheehan943]

Kind of defeats the purpose of the whole thing when the trolley is moving slow enough that you totally could untie the guy on the right side and sent the trolley that way.

[@ulfrick11]

That first guy sounds like the same guy who voices Rusty Venture from The Venture Bros.

[@Harrowed2TheMind]

The choice is easy, really: flip the switch, so that you only have to untie a single person. And with a trolley that slow, that shouldn't be a problem at all! 😜

[@deadmeatjb]

Yo did I hear dr.venture?

[@IBM29]

In Fallout, one would simply take out the trolley with a missile launcher... 😁

[@BTG514]

In fallout the trolley wheels would have rusted and locked while radroaches nest in the cabin.

[@IBM29]

@@BTG514 Ghouls would also spawn and feast on the hapless victims tied to the tracks...

[@AsbestosMuffins]

is there an option to back the trolley up and run it again?

[@BeastofBourdon]

You can also break it by flipping it back and forth and the trolly will just ghost through the guy without actually harming him.

[@PCTTmusic]

This game is one of a kind. If they had another year it could have been in contention for best game.

[@tubeguy4066]

It was dumb

[@dawsonweaver1779]

it’s a fun and interesting game but a game type like this won’t ever win a goty

[@excitedmilk6046]

Ehhh, no. Yes, unique but i feel at this current state, it peaked. Yes it can be improved, but it won't get any better than this. At least for what the crestors had in mind

[@Syv_]

@@excitedmilk6046 High horse type vibes right here. "Stroke my mustache" type vibes.

[@att7364]

NEEEDS MORE PICKLE RICK REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[@DimePwnz]

homie said he would give you all his pesos if you let him live... when does he pay up?

[@Raidoton]

Plot Twist: He was broke!

[@oriontherealironman]

I would have let Knifey decide

[@indrarahmadani8373]

"There're five of you, fight back!!"

[@buckfromislasorna1640]

They were all pretty much bad people so Might as well save the guy who tied himself to the track

[@Zaxares]

Guy on the right was a dumbass who tied himself to tracks for fun (supposedly), so yeah, he kind of brought this on himself. First guy on the left just seems like an average joe who wants to live, second guy is the genocide guy (deserves to die), third guy says he's a scientist but doesn't mention it if he lives so was probably lying, fourth guy says he'll have sex with you and is willing to keep his word, fifth girl lied about being pregnant but is otherwise no different from 1st and 3rd guys. But note how only the right guy says he tied himself to the tracks on purpose? Which suggests that HE'S the one who actually set this whole thing up, being the last person on the scene. So, if you were after the best moral choice, it would be to flip the lever to kill the one guy, then shoot the genocide guy in the head and free the others.

[@killahtomato89]

Dr.Venture would end up in that situation, knew I recognized him.

[@GeoffreyBronson]

This moral dilemma completely ignores that inaction IS an action.

[@primoridalspatula663]

Well... It doesn't ignore it. In fact, that's one of the main questions it stipulates.

[@ashg9023]

I like the saw 6 reference when you kill the one guy

[@thatmovieguy7778]

How did I miss this ?

[@jackventure3703]

James Urbaniak. Neat. This game just keeps getting better. Too bad I gotta wait for if they release it on PS5.

[@actuallynotsteve]

This is pretty genius as a bit in a game

[@TheDoctorGermany]

hello rusty

[@HeWhoProclaims]

This dilemma is actually a used scenario for social experiments. Social experiments are very common within the gaming industry believe it or not but I don't understand how it can be actual data if most will think it doesn't matter since it's a video game lol

[@elknothin3403]

I like how the trolley lightly touches them and they just explode into black goo

[@gishvids1445]

Was the Act ending where the guy says watch me like a man a saw shotgun spinner reference, because fucks thats so sick!

[@IxodesPersulcatus]

Why would I leave five witnesses?

[@stealthpilot2861]

God damn how did I miss that during my play through? I literally went to that area and everything

[@oppideez2158]

It's a warp disk u buy from the food stand guy

[@stealthpilot2861]

@@oppideez2158 oh which one

[@oppideez2158]

@@stealthpilot2861 is called trolly tracks

[@darren1139]

The trolley lost al momentum and stopped before it killed the 5th person for me. I was sad.

[@matthew8153]

What if you tried flipping the switch after the first set of wheels are past but before the second set? Would the trolly then get stuck?

[@humanbean3]

in real life or a physics based game yes. in this game, lol no.. of course not.

[@HenachokoFujoshi]

I've heard this put another way. You're on a bridge watching a trolly hurtling towards 5 on a track. They will all die. Next to you on the bridge is a very fat man leaning over. If you push him over, his large body will stop the train killing him but sparring the five. Most people would switch the tracks but not push the man. It's interesting

[@jzatchbell]

IMO, even ignoring the more direct role you'd be playing, you're the one taking the guys autonomy by shoving him onto the tracks, but when they're tied up to track their autonomy has already been taken. So it really is a drastically different situation even if it doesn't seem like it on the surface. It's also just a hard hypothetical to parse as the idea that this one guy will for certain stop the train but the next person won't doesn't really figure, even if we say it does in the hypothetical.

[@humanbean3]

this scenario can be read in the Prey (2017) game. highly recommended game btw. at least 7 times better than High on Life.

[@Subscriber9192]

@@jzatchbell not choosing is also a choice though. and you have to live with it your entire life. sure you also have to live with the fact you killed someone. but now there are 5 families out there that are happier because of you. however thats not the point of the exercise. the point is to identify where your moral compass lies, and determine your own mental fortitude. like i said before, can you not live with the fact someone died because of your own action/inaction. or are you a heartless monster that felt nothing. personally there is only 1 scenario where i wouldnt pull the lever, and thats if one of my loved ones was tied to the other track. would i be able to live with the fact someone died because of me? maybe, maybe not. but the fact is someone has probably already died indirectly because of me, and i just dont know it yet. i love this moral dilemma.

[@HenachokoFujoshi]

@@jzatchbell what if they're not tied? Let's say they're all wearing ear defenders and facing the other way

[@Mezzykins]

@@Subscriber9192 I think the only answer from my side is you always try to save them all and by doing that you select the best chance of doing that which is to flip the switch and attempt to rescue the one person. If they were a friend or family member, I think the answer there is I wouldnt stop trying to rescue them even if it meant I would die too. (Easier to say than do though haha!)

[@Its-j]

They do realize that you had the time to save all of them the trolley wasn’t moving that fast!

[@seriousx3021]

The one guy on the right volunteered to be on the track.

[@EJAXK13]

It’s Trial By Trolley. The card game.

[@1031Sonic]

Rusty venture!

[@schzztzrz]

I always love hearing urbaniak in the real world

[@GoingtoHecq]

so like if you're not responsible for people dying if you don't pull the lever, then like you aren't responsible for the people being tied to the tracks, and you aren't responsible for any deaths no matter what you choose. You aren't responsible for the situation, and you can only deal with that as best you can.

[@rawZnis]

You know, he said all his pesos and yet he gives you nothing. I expected a chest, I didn't do nothing for nothing!

[@kharnifex]

Haha goddamn doctor venture

[@dragonfang1235]

The most logical thing would be to untied them before the trolley get to them

[@XLR108]

i love how the idea to just uh cut the ropes doesnt occur to anyone

[@mattstorm360]

I'm more curious about the trolley existing. What is that trolley for? Where dose it go? Why dose the track spit if they both come to a stop? Why is it so slow? Also, who tied these people up? Why put five people on one track and one on the other if you know it will only kill the five people? Why leave the sixth person tied up where he won't die from the trolley? Is it torture? Did they want that one person to witness the deaths of five people while they lay there to die from exposure later? Did they really think someone was going to come over and ask a philosophical question? Because the answer is to push the fatman.

[@BobbyKrieger]

Is that doc venture 😂

[@vorticemaldito]

either way they make you feel like you should choose the other option

[@jediisawesome]

i clearly did not explore enough in this game especially this planet

[@daichinated449]

One of the 5 guys sounds like Dr. Venture

[@Elard404]

Morality wise its usually better to let the 5 people live (depends though) In terms of law is best to leave it, a family member could sue you because you literally pulled the lever that resulted in the death of the 1 person. The trolley was already in motion, if the players wasn't there then the 5 people would have died still, they can't sue for that I think.

[@jsmith434w]

if we killed you, we could save many lives with your organs. reconsider life equivalency

[@socialanarchy081]

I used to think that the right answer was to sacrifice the few to save the many, but after I realized how often this line is used to justify atrocities that are committed by our government, I don't know what the best solution is anymore.

[@Subscriber9192]

fun fact. the trolley problem was never about 1 life vs 5. it was about how different actions effect your moral compass even if the outcome is the same. for instance most people would probably pull the lever to save more lives. the trolley was gonna kill SOMEONE on the track anyway, so why not save more lives. however if the choice was between letting 5 people die, or shoving a random fat guy who was just passing by onto the railway to stop the trolley from killing the other 5 people, which one would you choose? in the end pulling the lever, and shoving the fat guy, have the exact same outcome, (-1) life, but they both effect your moral compass differently because one of them is a direct murder, and the other is indirect. its a very interesting moral conundrum.

[@Trazynn]

4:02 the Google Assistant said 'please don't talk to me in that way' from the phone on my desk.

[@teamofone1219]

Honestly the trolley is moving slow enough to where you can just save the one guy and switch the track.