The Tropical Zodiac in Vedic Astrology, with Vic DiCara

In this interview I talk with astrologer Vic DiCara about his use of the tropical zodiac within the context of Vedic astrology.
This is the video version of of episode 115 of The Astrology Podcast, and you can find the full episode description as well as a higher quality audio version of this episode on the podcast website here:
theastrologypodcast.com/2017/0...
You can find out more information about Vic and some of his different discussions about the tropical zodiac on his website:
vicdicara.com/tropical
You can also watch Vic's videos on KZbin here:
/ vicdicarasastrology

[@jrb1987]

Ryan Kurczak, Ernst Wilhelm and Vic diCara are like a Trinity for me. I've learned so much from them as much as I've learned from this channel.

[@louiserighter7330]

"The Zodiac is inherently tropical," lol! I love it. Thanks, Vic for saying the things some can't or won't.

[@solmma]

So nice to talk to someone that is not so "defensive" and explains the practice and the parochial aspects of astrology along with the astronomical facts in a so clear and humane way! It is very good to have you Vic!

[@MaRaXxX17]

I got a reading by Vic Di Cara and I went down a rabbit hole/ and let me tell you…. It’s by far a whole lot accurate than just one or the other. I love this so much and I wish I could thank Vic Dicara personally.

[@VicDiCaraAstrology]

Thank you so much for doing this, Chris

[@AmitabhTripathi]

You are o.k Vic. I like your way of thinking.

[@maverky1972]

Do you both have any evidence that Greeks knew anything or contributed anything to Astrology or Astronomy. Greeks were really sucky in Mathematics. Even their calendars sucked until 16th Century. The Attic Roman Numeral system cannot be used to do the Astronomical Math. Almagest is a Persian translated to Greek text.

[@maverky1972]

Have you read Platos Aplology? Socrates was accused of impiety for doing astronomy, and during his trial he denied he was Anaxagoras.

[@StupidxGrrrl94]

I'm curious about your chart because I relate to everything you say about your nature lol

[@ExaminerCross]

@@maverky1972 were they sucky bc they didnt believe 0 was a real number

[@swetamalakar3945]

This is the most important video regarding astrology in the whole utube. I , myself personally follow Vic Sir, and took his course on Nakhastra. My Life got changed after I converted my chart in Tropical. I am a proud Tropical follower and successful in prediction. Thank you 🙏🙏

[@jrb1987]

This is one of my favorite episodes. I have already binge watching Vic diCara's channel before I discovered this episode and it's very satisfying to see both of my favorite astrologer in one video.

[@Umuma871]

Interestingly my ancestors (Maori) started the year in around June -linked to the rising of Mataariki (Pleiades). Signals the beginning of Tamanui Te Ra’s return. Another awesome episode 🙏

[@ud1235]

Bravo Vic! Your supporters are here! Divine energies are with you...Because u r d real thi g (blessing) to earth. Your conscious is so pure - no matter u may be wrong in one or two things...truth is in the intent! (Which is a rare gem)

[@MsSherryl01]

Great interview, guys. Really enjoyed it. I love the Sanskrit, the logic and the academic knowledge that Vic has and so easily conveys. A wealth of information. Thanks Chris for the interview and to you both for your time.

[@MaryElizabethMurphy7]

Vic is awesome! I LOVE what he says about proper intellectual debate. I studied at Kepler College where they taught us to do charts by hand so we learned the fundamentals. I wish more astrologers would practice this before jumping straight to the software programs (which are amazing but not the best starting point for real understanding in my opinion). Also, Dennis Harness was one of my teachers at Kepler love him too, he's a beautiful soul and I was lucky to attend his conference in Sedona a few years back.

[@theoldgod9]

Great. We have no good astrology schools here.

[@SadhviJenn]

So happy to see that this exists! :)

[@babahanuman83]

two thinkers with clear mind. great. thx.

[@RaKumarSankar-hj2gn]

Thanks Chris and Vic. Very informative and above all, free from prejudicial clashes and attentive comprehension.

[@racheloddie6720]

Time = upward= highest point = most masculine = sunsign = Tropical fixed zodiac as the sunsign is considered in tropical , is what I got from your explanation and then across = space = position of constellations (stars) obviously each with different degrees + moon which is considered in Vedic = feminine in the cosmos and with this perspective a Vedic chart can be fixed into a Tropical zodiac chart . 12 zodiac signs gives foundation but with the different degrees of each constellation and movement of the planets gives a unique and flexible reading which can be a lot more on point than one or the other. Thankyou for sharing. ✨ The cross I got from the Southern cross and an Andean belief with upward meaning time and across meaning space ✨ Just my little spin on what made sense for me on abit of what was mentioned. Cheers

[@amit.bhat07]

Vic DiCara energy is so magnetic ❤

[@annahollings5336]

Thanks to you both ❤️

[@Lieve_Saillart]

Great video, I agree with Vic s point of view, very interesting, thank you Chris.

[@solmma]

Gosh! So coherent, Vic! ( Including because you do not exclude exposing your ethics. Praise the Gods for your Mercury! And probably for your Mars too)

[@ak7443]

You are such a fair interviewer Chris!

[@wistfulsighs7791]

This Einstein quote comes to mind: "Great spirits have always encountered persecution from mediocre minds." I want to study astrology. I was debating on which system to study. Further complicating this was my discovery that there is such a thing as a Vedic/Tropical astrologer, which wondering why, lead me to this podcast. Trying to find honest arguments for one system over the other is extremely difficult for the very reason, as mentioned here, that it has become politicized. No one wants to be wrong. True scientific investigation, however, considers all the possibilities. It has been said that the illiterate are those who cannot learn, unlearn and relearn. I suppose I'll have to study all possible systems to form an opinion of my own. I am very grateful to the Astrology Podcast and kudos to Vic Dicara for his courageously open minded approach to the study of astrology!

[@Qiroqi]

I for one appreciate Vic's scrappy Mercury. A great, scholarly astrologer!

[@lamalawyer]

In the astrological community there are so few cogent and critical and respectful thinkers like you, Chris; so informative to see how you find weak/interesting places to push. Great questions!

[@amirokareem3535]

Yes along time ago I had a western sidereal chart done at one of those psychic flairs

[@dipenpatel1211]

According to puranas & other vedic texts, Jyotish=ganita(Maths + Astronomy) + jataka(Natal Chart Reading using Zodiac Signs, Nakshatras, Houses & Planets etc.) + samhita(Natural Astrology).

[@bombon825]

I 100% believe in Vic's explanation and approach. My life map proves that his method is the accurate one. As do the natal charts of my loved ones. The problem seems to be that Vedic astrologers take offense to the approach without realizing the deep respect some of us have for the tradition. It seems to me that the techniques that are astoundingly powerful in Vedic.The signs themselves are, for me and those close to me, absolutely incorrect. Astrology is potential, it is feeling and it is manifestation in real time. I feel like my Western signs, I am achieving the potential as determined by my Western signs and I have seen them manifest just as Vedic techniques indicate they should.

[@ExaminerCross]

So question, are you living in a culture heavily influenced by Western ideals/consciousness?

[@ud1235]

Vic your humbleness will win over all narcissist ego-driven commercial minded fools in your community. Thanks to youtube revolution that has brought such gems like vic to general audience. When u steal the show and become too famous than people preaching more than 10 years - u clearly connected in the right note with souls on earth. U deserve the recognition! Ur success is ur currency to your service. More power to u! Thank God vic your mercury is harsh with being so sharp - needed to survive. I can see whole chart is important for success on this planet. U nailed it Vic! Thanks to the host for the ending, didn't like up until the end- as he was so skeptical until he smiled lightly towards the end when vic's mercury gave a right whip to intellectually curious people.

[@tizi2003]

Everything is always influencing everything else....everything is always in motion, changing, evolving. As above, so below. The science of astrology must continue to evolve so that we humans can use its insights to also evolve. To me it all goes back to the question of why people might consult with a professional astrologer to begin with. If they are looking for a deeper understanding to have a more fullfilling life then the science must be applied in ways that are conducive to this. If the calculations are incorrect, then we cant really hellp people, can we?

[@wombat6177]

Gold

[@lotushealingsanctuary]

And I always thought I had the market cornered on veggie, punk, hare Krishna! LOL Lovely conversation ~ as always ~

[@NicolasBoque]

Interestingly, Ernst Wilhelm's episode is not on KZbin, i wonder why. Its number #111, available on the website on audio version, listening to it right now!

[@TheAstrologyPodcast]

It was from before I started recording video versions of the episodes

[@beatboxerz]

I have learn to use Both systems

[@video108video]

Maybe a stupid question, but in tropical astrology is it just the sun that is tied to a season in the natal chart, or are ALL the planets in a seasonal rather than zodiacal placement? For example, I understand that if my sun is in "Scorpio" that really just means that I was born in the Fall season. But if my Saturn is in Virgo, does that means that Saturn was actually in the literal constellation of Virgo when I was born?

[@SusanHopkinson]

The zodiac doesn’t always align with the actual constellations because it is established based on the movement between the sun and the moon over the course of a year.

[@jamesgreaves3023]

I have often wondered about this too because only the Sun has a direct relationship to the seasons (wherever you are on the planet, albeit markedly reversed in the Temperate Zones of the Northern and Southern Hemispheres). The Moon does have a lesser relationship to seasons too because it has the most reflected sunlight, compared to the other 'wanderers' which have little relationship to earth seasons. If your Saturn is in VIrgo, it could be in the Tropical or Sidereal system, depending on which one you prefer to use.

[@amirokareem3535]

Is sayana another term for tropical astrology?

[@SusanHopkinson]

No - Ayana is the movement of the Sun North or South of the equator towards the Tropic of Cancer or the Tropic of Capricorn

[@solmma]

Just occurred to me the relationship between fix, mutable and cardinal to the trinity Vishnu, Shiva, and Brahma. Would that make any sense for you there?

[@SusanHopkinson]

No - those designations refer to of the sun’s transfo condition and how it changes throughout the year 🙏🏻

[@SuryaTratak]

Perhaps we should stop to look at it from the point that one system is wrong and the other correct. From tradition, scriptures, and logic, we see that both were used. Then the question is, when to use which? Approaching it from the angle of positional astronomy, it seems that both must have been used complementary: the tropical for declination (as the tropical is about declination by definition), and the sidereal for longitude.

[@IndifferentSky]

Thanks for this engaging video. I love this channel, just discovered it. I love personalities like his even tho as he rightfully points out it should not matter. But when someone is odd man out, it matters.

[@rohinimattson8796]

Have any other Sidereal astrologers been able to understand why your negative event happened from the sidereal system?

[@dhavalpathak]

He must disclose those facts. He should have gone to K N Rao for that.

[@ExaminerCross]

great point

[@solmma]

"... not North towards New York.." LOL Very good!!!!!!

[@seventhheaven5472]

I can relate to both, when I wanna know where emotions are, I use sidereal.When I know where the Ego is I use Tropical.😄 Problem solved.

[@SadhviJenn]

6:00 is he a 5/1 researcher/heretic HD profile? 🤔 just wondering

[@anthonyb.7836]

This is so true! 36:05 I kno astrologers who do that...so aggravating they will do & say whatever to make sidereal make sense when it doesnt!

[@dhavalpathak]

I hope u have read some classics fore making any statement

[@SusanHopkinson]

@@dhavalpathak the classic texts (Surya Siddhanta etc.) all define the zodiac as tropical - created by the movement of the Sun over the course of the year

[@ExaminerCross]

@@SusanHopkinson Would you mind listing out the classics you're referring to?

[@ReturnOfLight]

Hey, 1:00:35 A good way to put it is one cannot have an effect without the cause. In these times, many have a "me vs you" mentality, and we separate the cause from the effect when we dismiss of or don't like the original cause. So, a new one is created and the original one is demonized. Many will see and understand this, and many will have cognitive dissonance.

[@ud1235]

Although constructive, had a feeling of it being slightly confrontational. These type of interviews within knowledge community is more ego-driven. For vic dicara audience - we don't need these! We have chosen him to be our guru- live with it! It's not ignorance, rather it's intuitive belief he truly wants to impart knowledge.

[@kalikumber]

The way I see it is Sidereal is in 12 sins because of the moon , you have 12 moons in a year which creates a energy defining the lengths of the sins so doesn't mater about the sins being uneven the energy of the months connecting into the year creates the sins , The moon is the mind the mind reflects our existence the reflection defines the sins and our existence , Sidereal is all about the moon the moon is trippy , Tropical revolves around the sun eg the seasons , My teacher heart defouw said they did use Tropical some times in India with powerful people , the sun is like moden man ego straight to the point revolving around your self , moon is trippy working on reflective levels

[@ud1235]

Vic I sense some of fate and success attracting jealous people within your community for success like Jordan Peterson. More power to Jordan and Vic in their own needed way! U r an inspiration.

[@blueink1073]

So obvious your Mercury in Aries lol...before you said it

[@stacey8039]

omg! blah blah blah