The TRUE Cost of Ownership of my LX470 Makes My Head Hurt.😬

[@WheretoNextOverland]

Do you own a 100 Series Land Cruiser / LX470? If so, I'd love to hear what YOUR cost of ownership has looked like. Is my experience similar to what you've experienced? Let me know in the comment below...

[@brianmowry9633]

'06 LC 100 - Ownership this year has been a bit brutal due to a long trip where the steering rack needed replacement. Took it to a dealer being so far from home. Turned out the replacement part was a reman'd one and blew apart the entire steering system. Still going through warranty repairs to get the old gal back on the road. Pry about $10k into repairs that will need to be recouped once the warranty is fulfilled.

[@WheretoNextOverland]

Ouch! Glad to hear it's warrantied at least!

[@christofonobrown3659]

Have an 04LC. Purchased in 2019 with 185k miles and now at 307k miles. I am the 5th owner and all previous owners dealer maintained it which I continued. Not counting last year and this year this vehicle averaged $1700/year in maintenance (including preventative). For it’s 300k birthday I’ve spent $9k going through it replacing all bushings and mounts. The only issue that came up was the alternator (once) on a road trip, and that got handled in a day. Mine takes regular unleaded and average 15.6mpg, obviously mostly highway driving.

[@stubbs312]

Mine's definitely similar. It's not an economical vehicle by any definition! I've owned my '04 for 5 years now - bought at 182k and I've just put 23k on it since as I don't do many long trips. I've spent $3800 in routine maintenance (including tires), $9500 in repairs (steering rack and failed cat, axles, driveshaft, plus much more to replace worn original parts), and about 7800 on upgrades (sliders, skids, front bumper, lift, audio, etc.). I tend to do the easy stuff myself and have a shop do the more complicated jobs just due to time constraints, so that accounts for a good chunk of those costs too. All-in, I'm sitting at a bit under $35k over 5 years including the $13.5k purchase. That includes everything except fuel and insurance. Having fixed so much on it, the longer I keep it the cheaper it's becoming annually!

[@jsloden1]

When I purchased my 01 lx in 2021 it had 428k miles on it. It has 453k now. The previous owner said it had been taken to the lexus dealership for literally everything. He wasn't joking. I got the service writer to email me all of the service records for the vehicle. Between 2006 and 2016 it had almost 65 THOUSAND DOLLARS in service work. Mostly $300 oil changes. It was considered a company vehicle for the owners llc. He owned and operated a tech company in Birmingham. He drove it from there to LA multiple times a year racking up all of the miles.

[@timmandere6825]

This dude’s getting ripped off by the shop. Who tf charges $1,150 for spark plugs and coils! It’s literally under $150 in parts

[@timmandere6825]

@@23chnge It’s a 20 minute job!

[@j.harvey3228]

They probably charged him book time and he's on the West Coast, so I'm guessing close to $200 p/hr.

[@5265060]

i lol'ed at $1500 radiator. I just got all brass rad, every cooling hose (all factory), heater valve, new factory pump, phh and valve junction upgrade for less in parts. A few hours of work is worth my time

[@recnepsgnitnarb6530]

Exactly. I got all the required plugs, coils and connectors from rockauto for 160 bucks.

[@emeeul]

@@recnepsgnitnarb6530Denso coils are currently about $50 each, so it’s more than that for OEM.

[@alexanderkochetkov3527]

I owned an LX470 for 22 years. This was the least expensive car to maintain that I ever owned. Water pump at the same time as the timing chain, and regular oil/gas/brakes/tires expenses. Literally nothing else ever. And when I sold it (dumb me, needed a bed truck for our dirt bikes) a couple of years ago it brought in a good chunk of money I did not think it would. So the total cost of ownership was almost non-existent spread over 22 years, with 100% reliability it provided us. Best vehicle I ever owned, and I should have kept it.

[@WheretoNextOverland]

Did you do much off-roading with it? I think that has added quite a bit to our maintenance costs.

[@alexanderkochetkov3527]

@@WheretoNextOverland I live in the mountains: so getting to the mountain rivers fishing spots, off-roading recreationally/for fun etc - a fair bit. Not extreme hardcore variants that’d kill any truck, but still something that gets you stuck in a river in 5-7 feet of water and needing another truck to pull you out kind of thing, rocks, climbs, crossing big logs etc. But I did most of the maintenance myself DIY and I have a car lift to do it. The truck is very easy to work on, great access to everything, parts made to last. When I sold it even the hydraulic suspension still functioned properly and I never needed to replace it. I did need to clean the rust off the hight position sensor contacts once or twice when I noticed uneven auto-height at the truck corners.

[@E39M5SPEED]

It doesn’t have a timing chain.

[@stocksxbondage]

Toyota/Lexus spoil you. Over the years, you think other vehicles are only a little more expensive. They’re multiple times more expensive unfortunately.

[@iann8642]

My daughter drives a 1998 with 221k. Bought it 4 years ago with 205k. We spent $4500 when we bought it on most of what you’ve done minus the brake booster. We just had the rear u-joints replaced, steering bushing and the ahc replaced with passive shocks new springs and torsion bars. After watching your video I just told my wife and daughter that we’ll keep it forever. I’ll be replacing the front seats leather here in the next month. We’ve also replaced the drivers window motor and the main window switch. It’s a great vehicle. My daughter thinks it’s the coolest car. Great videos!

[@WheretoNextOverland]

This comment is great additional insight for anyone considering 100 series cost of ownership. Thanks for sharing! I need to do the seat leather as well. Have you figured out where you're gonna source the new covers from?

[@JohnEdmundsIV]

@@WheretoNextOverland I found mine on eBay and took the old leather off and put the new one on myself.

[@WheretoNextOverland]

@John Edmunds IV nice! How big of a chore was it to do? I've heard it can be a pain

[@JohnEdmundsIV]

@@WheretoNextOverland I only had to do the lower cushion of the driver seat as it had rip and tear. The upper part (which looked like it would be tough) was fine so I didn't have to replace The lower one was ripped so I think it was a 1-2 hour job. my leather expert buddy painted the top to match!

[@WheretoNextOverland]

@@JohnEdmundsIV that's not bad at all. I've toyed with the idea of doing the same (bottoms only)

[@christianaguirre3043]

😂 I would love to be this guy’s mechanic. Put all my kids through college.

[@WheretoNextOverland]

Are you any good? And what's your labor rate? 🤣

[@runnerxa]

This is why you should learn how to maintain and fix (at least the easy to moderate items) yourself. I had the dealers and other mechanics maintain my vehicles (4Runner, GX470, and LX570) a decade ago. After realizing that their labor rates are way high and work is sometimes shoddy (missing/stripped bolts, dented gas tank skid from jacking the entire vehicle on it when it has a frame to jack from), I started to learn to do the work on my own. I started with changing my own oil in 2014 to being able to do timing belt/water pump/thermostat, alternators, suspensions, etc... All of the preventive maintenance are easily done and will save you a ton of money. Plenty of guides and KZbin videos out on the internet to teach yourself. Even if you end up buying tools, you will still save money. Plus have the necessary skills to do trail repairs. The total component cost since 2014 for all 3 vehicles are less than $5000. That include timing belts on the 4Runner, GX470, aftermarket suspension rebuilt by Radflo, all oils (engine, differentials, transmission), filters (to include cabin air filter, engine oil filter, air intake filter, transmission filter), coolant fluids, radiators on the 4Runner and GX, brake pads, supercharger rebuild on the 4Runner, tie rod replacement on the GX470, MAF sensor replacement, CV boot replacement on the 4Runner and GX470, AHC fluid replacement/bleed on the LX570, etc... I do 99 % of the labor on my own time since I don't need to drive all 3 at once (so we always have a spare vehicle until my oldest start driving) and I am not a professional mechanic. I have a full time job and a big family so getting a reliable/dependable vehicle saves me a lot of time (from constantly having to work on them). Previously owned a Jeep XJ and had to constantly work on that plus my friend's Land Rover Discovery II. It got old working on those instead of going on trips... The 4Runner, GX, and LX have served our family well and kept the cost down while allowing us to experience the outdoors. The surprising thing is that my 4Runner total cost of ownership is double our GX470 and triple our LX570, probably due to the supercharger mods. The LX570 is our most reliable vehicle, literally the only maintenance I do is differential, engine oil, transmission oil, AHC fluid, coolant fluid, and brake pads changes when it hits those miles. The only real downside to the Toyota body of frame vehicles is the fuel economy, especially when you put bigger tires and roof stuff. Fuel cost over ~ two decades cost me way more than the maintenance and labor cost I put in. TLDR: Teach yourself how to work on your own vehicles = save yourself a ton of money and dealer/mechanic ripoff

[@WheretoNextOverland]

Lots of good info and valid points here. I've worked on my vehicles before, and I've done work to the LX as well. Ultimately though, time is my most precious commodity, and I value it greater than just about anything. Spending a weekend in the garage wrenching (and bleeding and swearing) doesn't bring me joy like it does for a lot of people. As such, I'd rather not sacrifice that time. And yes, I'm grateful to be in a position where I can do that!

[@stocksxbondage]

I have news for you my friend… you’re as good as any new, intermediate mechanic at most shops. Probably better work because you take your time. Mechanics are definitely using YT just like any DIY person. You underestimate your abilities.

[@treksportoutdoors]

Doing most of it yourself is the way to go. Just did the radiator myself for $200 in parts and just did the coil packs in 30 minutes this weekend. In the end you can save thousands doing the easy stuff...some I admit I cannot do but worth it.

[@WheretoNextOverland]

Yeah, I've done a handful of smaller jobs and I've gotta say, 100's are pretty darn easy to work on. The big stuff though....nah.

[@lumiapixel1241]

​@@WheretoNextOverlandplugs and coil shouldn't be a big job no?

[@hansonlife9465]

@@lumiapixel1241just did mine for cheap!

[@moses_irl]

@@lumiapixel1241 its an hour max with some sweat.

[@Justin-vt7wh]

@@WheretoNextOverland I've done some extensive work on my 01 LX470 and I've hated working on it. I've owned an 08 Land Rover LR3 that I also maintained myself and it was so much easier to work on. That doesn't mean I hate my LX470 it just means I wish it was in fact easy to work on lol.

[@TroyHarlan]

‘Lack of depreciation compared to its new or used comparables” is how I similarly justify my Feb 2022 purchase of a low (85k) mileage 2007 LX 470. Not only is it nice to have a vehicle that’s hit its price bottom, but also the add-ons like custom racks and sleeper setups tend to get their value back if resold.

[@WheretoNextOverland]

Agreed! The appreciation of LX470s since I bought mine has probably offset about 30% of the maintenence costs, so that helps!

[@brkbtjunkie]

Lucky guy

[@bjornegan6421]

How much did you buy it for?

[@WheretoNextOverland]

Well under $10K in 2019

[@BuckJones1909]

We have a 2006 LX470 with 251k! We have owned this vehicle for 18 months. We have spent $6.2K in maintenance. We average 17 mpg for combined traveling of approximately 20K miles. Our mileage is mostly highway travel! We live in a mountainous region of Ca and have encountered several snowy days of driving! Our LX 470 has been a joy to own! For what it provides and with the initial cost we have saved money when compared to the purchase of a newer more expensive vehicle!

[@WheretoNextOverland]

Oh, what I would give to get 17 mpg! 🤣 Totally agree with you that, compared to a newer & more expensive vehicle, it's a great value. Sounds like your maintenance costs have been roughly on par with what we've seen given how long you've owned it. But hey, with proper maintenance, these things will last forever!

[@Tallbikeguy960]

A lot of what you had done is pretty easy to do yourself. Brake pads & rotors are super easy, and only a couple of hours job. Also when you DIY, you do all the stuff that you “really should do” all at once, so you don’t have to pay for the same disassembly multiple times. As i see it, it gets you more in touch with the vehicle. My guess is DIY would be 1/3 to 1/2 of the cost of a shop doing the work.

[@E39M5SPEED]

Rears are easy. Fronts are not.

[@bordone]

I purchased my 100series from an auto auction back in 2018 for $4200 with 198K. Previous owner left The maintenance records, owners manuals, and extra keys in the vehicle. I verified the maintenance records with Lexus and the the vehicle was maintained all the way until 2015 when it was finally given up for auction. I still have the old registration from the previous owner so I look them up and they're from northern California and their house was worth almost 2 million dollars so something tells me they upgraded. I turn my own wrenches, and I've done a lot of work to the vehicle since including a ironman off road front bumper, 555 ball joints upper/lower, timing belt service with valve cover gaskets, 555 tie rods, refurbished steering wheel, and KO2 tires. Currently has well over 200k and runs smooth. Future projects are OME suspension, snorkel, rear bumper upgrade.

[@WheretoNextOverland]

Wow, what a find that was!

[@funnyberger]

This is hilarious. I just dropped 6 grand on my 00lx470 with 240k that I bought in 19. My wife and I, the 9th owner of this truck, are tired of all the cash we're throwing at it so we tallied it up. Bought for 5600 and did almost exactly everything you listed (no starter and no radiator issues). Add to your maintenance list 1200 for 33s, a grand for a roof rack and 350 for paint and clear coat (painted it myself) and we're totaling around 25k. Although we're tired of the money spending, we absolutely love the truck. Thank you for making this video. It's exactly what we needed to remind us why we own it. Fingers crossed the maintenance costs settle down. Here's to a great summer of wheeling the Colorado Rocky Mountains with our five kids! Ps forgot to mention I'm pulling a 5x8 box trailer daily for work and getting a whopping 8.5mpgs 😁😵‍💫🤑

[@WheretoNextOverland]

Haha, wow, yeah ... lots of parallels there. I didn't dare include the cost of modifications ... that would've moved the needle quite a bit. But still, 100% worth it to drive a 100!

[@emeeul]

9th owner? Maybe that’s why it had a lot wrong with it?

[@Motorsic]

235k miles on my LC and it sounds like ive been pretty lucky! Alternator, bushings in the front end and center diff and some miscellaneous things ive done personally. Now that you've had it for a few years im sure youre caught up on some of these costs and im willing to bet its going to be cheaper down the road.

[@noctilucent7396]

That's what I'm thinking

[@markspoor4663]

Great video. I am a 23 year 1 owner of a 100 LC. I am also looking at 4Rs. I love My LC but it really has to be a 3rd car for it to rationalize. If you need a daily driver but also want to adventure the 4r is probably the better choice unless you love to tinker.

[@WheretoNextOverland]

Yeah, I'd probably have to agree (assuming the 4R is a lot newer than the LC).

[@jonathansadowsky4888]

2001 LX470, purchased in 2011 at 95K miles, now 240K miles (~11K miles per year). Mix of city, hwy, and offroad driving. Averages about 14 m.p.g. I have all repair records which include regular maintenance and tire replacement, etc. Average yearly repair costs have been ~$1600/year over the past 13 years. The cheapest year (2021) was $256. The most expensive year (this year, only half done) has been ~$3200.

[@VegaVenturing]

Great video. Thanks for all the info. I know it sounds expensive, but with how outrageous new vehicle prices are nowadays, seems like maintaining an older vehicle is very much the wiser financial decision. Subbed!

[@WheretoNextOverland]

Thank you! Yeah it's definitely interesting to compare the cost to maintain an older vehicle like this vs the cost of a similar new vehicle payment ...

[@deepcleannation7367]

I’m kind of in the same boat as you. Bought a pristine 470 with 187k miles for 13k. I went though and got the timing belt/ water pump addressed, as well as the radiator, brakes, wheel bearings and CV axels (all with OEM Toyota parts). I’m almost $4,500 into parts and labor, but I figured $17,500 for a car that is likely to go another 250k miles is well worth it.

[@ZacCostilla]

One of the reasons that it is expensive to repair is BECAUSE it is so overbuilt. I bought mine with 325,000 miles, and have 338,000 miles on it now. I have baselined it myself with all fluids and new heater tees (the tees are essential maintenance because they’re high failure), but had the shop do front breaks and one front wheel hub, the radiator, and bought new tires.

[@WheretoNextOverland]

You are correct on that! Most of the parts I've replaced have been the original OEM parts that are JUST now failing. Thats proof that they are overbuilt (and explains why they're expensive to replace)

[@radarriau]

Thank you for sharing. I have a 2002 Land Cruiser that lives in San Francisco. In a garage. I never take it on rocky boulder roads, and just run Michelin all weather tires factory spec. I have 276,000 miles, doesn't use oil. Nothings been done to suspension or drive train, other than lubrication, alignments with tire changes. I have done many of those other repairs like radiator alternator and one number five spark plug that blew out, $600 repair by a senior mechanic. I go to Creative Automotive in San Rafael. Very honest shop. The dealer wanted $10,000 to do that repair. Creative uses Toyota parts, and all of the repairs are quite reasonable, similar prices to yours, definitely cheaper than a Mercedes. I got it as a temporary vehicle ended up keeping it, because it's so smooth and quiet, especially with proper sized Michelin's. I bought it with 185,000 miles on it. Did the timing belt when I made the purchase three years ago. Fortunately I have a short commute, gas mileage is ridiculous but it sure is a nice ride. If I have to go long distances I use a 2005 highlander, 2 Wheel Dr. 6 cylinder.

[@WheretoNextOverland]

Sounds like it is just getting broken in!

[@paulwuethrich445]

Just stumbled across your channel - great stuff. You'll obviously get a chunk of that back if you end up moving on sooner rather than later, otherwise you'll be set for some time. Bought our 04 LC in 2010 w/78k and not ready to let it go w/182k even after dumping $5k into it this year. Cost of ownership over 13 years has been very reasonable when you factor in reliability, resale value, etc. We also had a similar experience with an 80 series that we owned for 7 years. Keep those videos coming!

[@WheretoNextOverland]

Thanks for the kind words! I agree with you that the cost to maintenance has been very worth it. After all, at 260k+ miles and 23 years old .... our LX still drives like new, which is beyond impressive .... especially considering all the offroad miles that we've put on it since buying it.

[@senglee9501]

Thanks for sharing, my 2003 LX over 3 years were 6k plus. I’m a DIY but the parts are limited and costly. It’s overland built with over 10k of aftermarket parts now. 10-11 MPG mix driving’s still a very solid truck. I love it.

[@WheretoNextOverland]

Yeah that's a good point .... even if you DIY everything, parts for these trucks aren't cheap. But the quality of those parts is definitely evident in how long they last. Every time I replace something I think "well, that's probably the last time I'll need to address this". At least that's what I tell myself. Haha

[@SeaJayBelfast]

10 MPG?? Jesus Christ.

[@JosephEspinosa-ny5gv]

oof that price breakdown hurt . I just purchased an 06 LC with 300k on it last year and right out the gate I had to replace the manifold gasket,O2 sensors, breaks and rotors,struts,swaybar and the upper and lower control arms that was about 5k worth repairs and just last month my A/C compressor just gave out. But will i do it all again....... IN a heartbeat I love my LC every time I drive i feel like I'm king of the road. my goal is to ride the 06 for 3 more yrs then get the new 2024 LC .love your channel cant wait for more Reviews on the New LC !!!

[@TerraOblivion27]

Looking at a LX 470 with 246k miles. Seems good, $6000 ish, owner says no rust, timing belt recently replaced, only negatives are a cracked windshield and seats need to be replaced. Other than that, good shape. Is it worth the leap you say? Says no leaks or anything?

[@GaetanGiroux-o7v]

For a top shap lancruiser not bad... Had a VW Touareg v10 TDI where I thought that would be the Ultimate truck to do EVERYTHING. Ho ho boy on a $130, k and 7 yrs driving it with a $34,k of maintenance & still need it a lot to do to have it in petfect shape. I decided to let it go when of the turbo started to let go a second time. So I think you'er doing well with a one of the best that will take you there & back. Enjoy it

[@eltravieso111]

I bought my 2000 LC used about 7 years ago ($7k) with 180k miles. Now it has 288k on it. Completely stock. The only thing it has needed besides normal wear stuff like tires, battery, and front brake pads is rear brakes ($150 diy), fan clutch/pulley ($200 diy) and timing belt ($600 shop). I plan to do some upgrades with suspension, but it doesn’t Need anything. Very reliable paid for car with low maintenance costs and great in the mountains where we live. Just high fuel cost, but with a family of 6 what more can you ask for?

[@sadendy]

Where did you get a timing belt replaced for $600?

[@eltravieso111]

The timing belt was from looking in previous owners maintenance records I think back in 2011. Definitely not todays prices! I don’t think you would find a shop today under $1000

[@floridasurffishingjcaprice3077]

Thanks! There are a few in my area for sale. Gonna cross those of the maybe list.

[@CherokeeChief.]

I have an 04 limited sequoia and Iv done all the exact same repairs except brake booster. Makes me feel a lot better knowing I wasn’t the only one to have to fix these issues. And mine only has 225k miles on it.

[@WheretoNextOverland]

From what I've seen, it seems like a lot of these repairs creep into play around the 200 -250k mileage mark. Can't really be too mad to have to replace an original part at that mileage I suppose! Haha

[@CherokeeChief.]

@@WheretoNextOverland makes me wonder if I should purchase a land cruiser with 270k miles or more next time so these repairs will already have been made 😅

[@carlitostube1970]

You have really invested a lot, I think must has to do with the cost of labor, I have an Lx470 from 2002, I have managed to lower the cost by carrying out the simplest maintenance myself, I also installed a modern gas system. LPG and that has saved me 40% on fuel.

[@Deltronzer0o]

Can you elaborate on the modern gas system? How can I go about doing this mod?

[@apololagardev2050]

What did you do to get better mpg

[@mikebowers4650]

07 196k, latest repair was fixing the dreaded limp mode. Secondary air injection pump assembly $915 Driver air injection control $470 Secondary air injection pump check valve (2) $380 Gaskets and bolts $67

[@mikebowers4650]

Before that, 2 cats $441 Muffler $200 O2 sensor (2) $180 Air/fuel ratio sensor $249

[@nwilson228]

Thanks for this video! I feel you on this. I try to do something’s but I daily mine and some jobs I can’t do. I bought a 2000 LC with 293k miles for 5500 in 2020 and by 2021 after a year and a month of ownership put about 9k in maintenance totaled it (not my fault) so that good thing there was we got like 14,500 back in insurance and was at 301k and call that a win since I got all the money put into it back. Then bought an LX470 with AHC with 208k for 13k and love the LX version. Been pretty good to me since the starter was already done was a win! Just had a shop do AHC flush and LBJs,UBJs and outer tie rod for 2k. I fear brake booster and radiator are next. Rock sliders will keep getting the back burner. Love the channel!

[@WheretoNextOverland]

Oh, wow ... isn't it crazy how much the value of these things climbed between when you bought your LC and your LX?? Glad to hear you're enjoying the channel! A big Utah adventure is coming soon ... 😃

[@ScaleofTwo]

Yerp, feel ya on this one. I’ve done some very small things myself, but we have the same limitations. No driveway or garage to do my own work, and honestly my time could be better spent making money to pay for the things we need done. We just had the CV axles replaced, parts and labor came out to about 1500 for new OEM axles. But we love our 100!

[@WheretoNextOverland]

Just cross your fingers that you don't have to do the brake booster assembly! BTW, how many miles so you guys have on your Cruiser?

[@ScaleofTwo]

@@WheretoNextOverland I willfully ignore that…I don’t wanna jinx it 😂 we’ve got just about 245k

[@WheretoNextOverland]

@@ScaleofTwo hahaha. I kinda ignored the occasionally terrible noises it made for the past year ... but an impending trip to Utah scared me into replacing it. Steep shelf roads + dodgy brake booster seemed like a bad idea. Haha

[@Donald-gx5uh]

Recently had brake booster assembly fail on our 2004 Four Runner which I am pretty sure is the same unit. I was quoted $3k to replace with new one. they are pricey. Wound up finding master cylinder rebuild kit from Toyota ($125) and a rebuilt pump electric motor on eBay (guy rebuilds them using Toyota rebuild parts and has great reviews) ($350) and then spent about 4-5 hours pulling the old unit out, doing the rebuild and putting it back in and bleeding. Runs great. Not easy on a 4Runner and no idea how easy to get out and back in on a Land Cruiser.

[@noctilucent7396]

Took the 100 series out for a joyride today man i love it. I didnt realize this vechile is somewhat of a head turner, speaking of turning the turning radius aint bad! Im more than willing to shove money at this thing to keep it running strong and reliable for the next decade

[@nature10879]

Older cars are expensive no matter the make and model with toyotas and hondas being more reliable. Those Lx and landcruisers are great cars. I had that e39, actually two of them which I wrecked, they never ate my wallet and were pretty reliable machines. I still miss them. My next ride is gonna be an Lx 09-13. I have seen those for 25k give or take and I will do simple jobs like oil change by myself. Its gonna be specifically an adventure vehicle.

[@WheretoNextOverland]

Yeah, there's just no way around having to deal with extra maintenance on older vehicles. Especially true when we talk about the mileage most of these 100 series have seen. Great call on looking at an early LX570. I've been keeping an eye on the prices as well, and they're getting to the point where they're pretty tempting! Oh, and as for the E39 .... it was a great car ..... when it worked. Unfortunately, mine was a bit of a disaster 😕

[@Richard-xv7yf]

Almost lost all credibility with me whe he showed one of the most reliable bmws ever made. Had 2 myself an both went over 250k miles with basic maintenance

[@WheretoNextOverland]

V8 or I6? I had a 540i that was an unmitigated disaster at 100k miles. And don't get me started on the Vanos issues of the E39 M5s.

[@nature10879]

@@WheretoNextOverland mine were a 528 and 525. I liked a 528 better for more power and linear pull. I currently have a 550 and a ford

[@charlescoutret6808]

Thank you for this channel. I bought a GX470 about 2.5 years ago at peak pandemic. My due diligence was bad and i am certain I have you beat on repair bills though I am affraid to actually add them up. Currently faced with my biggest job and have been thinking of pulling the plug and getting something new. Now i think maybe I will stay the course. Great channel.

[@WheretoNextOverland]

Thanks for the kind words, glad to hear you're enjoying the channel. I totally get how frustrating all the repair bills can be, but I'm convinced that these things are worth it to keep going!

[@chatelier100]

Thanks for your great informative video…own a year 2000 LC101 1HD-FTE, currently at 480k km, had replaced all bushings that can be replaced (upper & lower arms, stabilizer bars bushings, rear suspension bushings, front axle bushings, steering rack bushings, body frame bushings) upper & lower arms ball joints, front wheel bearings, drive shaft boots, steering rack boots, tie rods and tie rod ends, radiator, AHC motor serviced, all accumulators, all absorbers, rear springs, brake calipers serviced, all for about USD 5,000, original toyota parts (except ball joints), the cost exclude the regular maintenance of engine oil & filter, diesel filter, air filter, ATF, transfer case oil, front & rear axle oil, AHC oil. Here’s the upcoming things to be done: rear disc rotor has hairline cracks (might replaced all 4 with DBA performance rotors), intercooler hoses, EGR delete. We are just refurbishing the cruiser to its original state, for another 20 years of service 😄

[@WheretoNextOverland]

Heck yeah! Do all that work and she'll be good yo go for another 400km!

[@aged7968]

2006 Land Cruiser here. Bought it certified used from a so cal Toyota dealer 15 years ago. Almost 300k miles. I agree about the costs of maintenance and repairs, they can really add up. My abs brake booster went out on my way down from the so cal mountains, and I needed to use low-gear and handbrake to stop. $3k repair at the closest Toyota dealer, and $20 for a new pack of underwear ;) But, about the costs, these 100 series LC's have a utility and comfort and reliability (when maintained!) that would cost $80-$100k to buy new. Also, since they have pretty basic amenities by modern standards, there is very little to go wrong, and if one feature goes wrong the whole thing doesn't die or refuse to drive because the computer goes into limp-mode or just won't let you start the car. I'll keep repairing and driving my LC and taking care of it. When this generation of Range Rovers, Cayennes and Rivians become obsolete and unfixable, I'll still be able to drive my LC wherever and as far as I want to. Might just be to the retirement home by then, but I'll get there! Enjoy your LX!

[@WheretoNextOverland]

@@aged7968 well said! I feel the same way. Despite the costs to keep it maintained, I have NO plans to get rid of it. I see myself owning it for at least another decade (if not longer)

[@mattclark1278]

Lexus GX same thing. 90k services. air suspension. SAIS system. crap radiators. front driveshafts and wheel bearings. All pricey. But worth it. Drove our 15 year old 470 to Cabo San Lucas and back at Christmas. Zero issues.

[@shaun77r]

Great video! Toyotas are very reliable and really don't need that much maintenance compared to a LOT of other manufacturers. Pretty much everything will need to be replaced at some point or another. I feel like on that vehicle, or Toyota trucks in general, there are quite a few things that you'll need to replace around the 150k mile mark (probably why most people sell them around that). Some of that stuff I would probably take to a mechanic because of time or whatever reason (like the starter haha... it is a pain on those engines) but it ALWAYS helps to at least know how to do it. You have an awesome Land Cruiser, don't get discouraged about having to replace a few things. I owned an '01 tundra for a while and did just about everything you had on your list. Most of it I did myself and saved literally thousands of dollars. Some of it, I would not do again (like the headers), but most of it is really simple and easy and might even save your a$$ when you're out in the middle of nowhere.

[@WheretoNextOverland]

I think you're spot on with the 150k mile mark being around the time where a lot of things need to be replaced. Anecdotally, and from what I see on the forums, the 250k mark seems to be another time where a lot of the OEM stuff wears out. Which is pretty damn impressive honestly!

[@shaun77r]

@@WheretoNextOverland Right?! My dad is a big Ford guy (and not to knock on Ford), but he'll buy 'em new and sell them around the 70k mark, because that's when things start needing to be replaced. And like you mention in the video, resell value alone on the Toyotas is enough for me to ease all the pain of repairs. Haha

[@rhoodj]

@@shaun77r The problem is: when you own a vehicle for years, it kind of become part of the family. Not always easy to get rid of them. At that point, taking care of it is a must and also cheaper than buying another vehicle. Sentimentality and passion...

[@ryanteter]

325k on our 01 LC. Perfect compression and the transmission/diffs are all functioning perfectly. They’re truly amazing machines.

[@WheretoNextOverland]

They are, for sure! Despite the costs, the fact that our 260k+ mile LX still runs and drives like new is beyond impressive ..... ESPECIALLY considering the use-case we have for it (a lot of offroad miles)

[@OFFTHEGRIND]

As always, so incredibly thorough and well organized! Great video!

[@WheretoNextOverland]

Thanks man, appreciate it!

[@cjstruzzo1361]

I own a 2007 LC (bought new) with 245K miles on the clock. I've had it serviced every 5K miles, and keep all my service records. The only repair (as opposed to regular maintenance) in the first 170K miles amounted to $400 for a water pump that needed replacing at 60K miles. Since then, I've had a variety of old age issues that have indeed cost quite a bit of money - so I've decided it's time to buy a new daily driver. But I love my Cruiser and will keep it as an extra vehicle. One suggestion, based on having just had to replace the (very expensive) steering rack: look around on the internet for Toyota dealers that sell OE parts at a discount. The five dealers closest to me here in Santa Barbara all wanted over $1000 for the rack, plus $200 or $300 for the tie rod ends. Instead I ordered from a dealer I found online who sold me the parts (including tax and 2 day shipping) for $930. With standard shipping, it would have been about $100 cheaper. They arrived as promised in two days, nicely packaged and in perfect shape.

[@WheretoNextOverland]

Thank you for this comment. Great tip as well!

[@sharduljagtap6521]

What daily are you planning to replace your Land Cruiser with?

[@simonflower6356]

@@WheretoNextOverland You’re welcome! I hope you continue to enjoy your LX470…despite the cost. And be glad you didn’t buy a Range Rover - because that would REALLY be expensive to own!

[@simonflower6356]

@@sharduljagtap6521 Hopefully something that gets better gas mileage! So many interesting new vehicles appearing in 2024. I like the look of the new Honda Prologue, but might well be tempted by the new Lexus GX revealed last week. A practical and great looking vehicle, sort of a modern take on the Land Cruiser. Unfortunately the twin-turbo V6 it shares with the new Tundra and Sequoia (here in the US) gets lousy gas mileage. If they make it available as a hybrid, that would be my choice for sure. But I’ll miss having a proper tailgate like the one on my LC.

[@stocksxbondage]

Thanks for the transparency! It’s very useful

[@NickHolum]

The maintenance you’ve done on the vehicle is lasting. Using OEM parts resets the clock somewhat.

[@WheretoNextOverland]

Yeah, no doubt! Most of the parts I've replaced have been the original OEM part from what I can tell. So, assuming the (OEM) replacement parts last the same amount of time, I'll be good to go for a looooooong time!

[@terenceleechan2701]

just chanced upon your channel. i have a 99 LX470 in the philippines for overlanding. great content and I like your delivery and editing. just subscribed

[@WheretoNextOverland]

Thanks! How's the overlanding in the Phillipines? My wife and I were there in 2019. Can't wait to go back!

[@terenceleechan2701]

@@WheretoNextOverland growing overland community here. also a small LX community :)

[@makethings1792]

i have a 2001 LX470 that could be your vehicle's twin. i bought it with 108k mi and it has 235k now. daily driver + overland. my mechanic continues to be unable to find anything to repair on it. i look things over extremely carefully before purchase however and passed on 12 others before i found the one i finally purchased. love the one owner dealer serviced mom mobiles :)

[@apololagardev2050]

So I have the opportunity to buy a 2001 lx470 as well, it has 107k miles on it and it’s going for over $7,000 on Kelly blue book. I am young at 21 and on a budget but since I see you got your car at a similar mileage I was wondering what you think. And if it would be worth it?

[@emeeul]

@@apololagardev2050You need time and or money for one at that age. When I was 21 I had an FJ60 I restored myself. It ended up being really expensive to operate over time.

[@GPW787]

I bought a 2000 lx470 new . Routine maintenance only. The most reliable car I have owned. Bullet proof.

[@WheretoNextOverland]

Take it offroad often, or pavement princess?

[@Thankyou_3]

If I may suggest something, if your LX have appreciated in value by 50%, I would in a heartbeat sell it and put all of the funds towards a new 5th generation 4Runner. You will be able to keep the 4Runner for two decades and get all your money out. With the LX, it will be over 40 years in 20 years and you can’t daily with that kinda of age and mileage. Parts are going to be harder and harder to find for the LX and it will be so expensive as time passes.

[@Being_Joe]

Taking my LX into the shop tomorrow to get the master cylinder replaced. It is failing and it is my daily (though I do WFH). Also, stopping is maybe more important than going.

[@WheretoNextOverland]

Yeah ... it sucks when it starts to fail ($$$), but it's not really one of those things you wanna put off for very long!

[@Lordoftheflatbush]

Owning a 2002 LX470, I can confirm the 12mpg. In my country, a liter of premium gas costs €2,30. However, I run the truck on LPG which is about €0,80/liter which makes the truck almost economical. Repairs is a constant drain of money as there is always something to repair or replace. I spent as least as much money as you did….Preventive action is key. Don’t forget to align your valves every 60k as this may cause a lot of engine errors. Yes it is an expensive car to run but at the same time it is the best car I had and want to keep it is as long as possible.

[@WheretoNextOverland]

Agreed! I hope to keep ours for a looooong time!

[@THEATOMICB0MB]

VERY surprised you didn't get into timing belt/water pump service. Considering you described most of these services as "preventative maintenance;" that is arguably one of the most important services one can have done. I was CONVINCED that was going to be on your "most expensive" invoice. Imagine my surprise. I'll have to keep some funds set aside if I ever run into that issue w my 470. What were the symptoms of a failing brake booster assy?

[@WheretoNextOverland]

Yeah, you're right about the importance (and expense) of the timing belt & water pump service. I'll need to do it this winter, as I'm pretty much right at 90k since it was last done.

[@jasonjohnson8776]

There are many videos on how to do the timing belt and water pump on KZbin

[@xbimmers1]

Bought my 2003 in 2019, this year is regular gas so thats a plus, so far....only major expenses as of 4-2024 has been new rack and pinion and hoses to power steering pump $1300 and $500 for recharge and then replace a leaking AC line. Bout it for $14K out the door....not bad. Had impeccable dealer maintenance records every 5K miles since new........I have 214K miles on it....probably worth what I have into it. In excellent condition..

[@jgcruisers]

I do my own work on all my cars and have saved lots of cash. I don't have time either, but I make time and learn in the process. Having this particular truck is nice to have, but only if you can afford to pay for maintenance like you do. Or do it yourself.

[@mmNola]

Of all the repair/maintenance items you mentioned, I believe the easiest to do yourself is the spark plug/coil replacement. I agree with the general point of some comments below of the short amount of time to perform the DIY. Also agree with the thought you are getting ripped by the shop the the full job. When I was kinda scared to DIY any engine maintenance on my 2000 TLC, in 2006 I paid $240 to replace coil #3 (just the coil, not the plug). I get the $240 cost to replace the single coil, as he had to diagnose, etc. -- though really it's pretty obvious if one cylinder isn't firing. In 2019 I DIY replaced all the plugs and all the coils for $152 in parts. Probably took me 2 hours to research it and 2 hours to do it, being extra careful and slow.

[@johnryandre]

I am the second owner of my ‘98 Purchased it with 212k miles. It now has 232k on the odometer. The owner had it maintained at a local mechanic after realizing the dealer was ripping him off. Since I have purchased the vehicle I have invested ~$4.5k into the rig replacing all of the suspension components, CVs, pre owned accumulators, steering rack, all fluids, brakes, rotors, battery, etc. Lucky for me, the previous owner did all of the standard engine maintenance both planned and preventative. (Timing belt, coils, plugs, AC compressor, Radiator, alternator, pulleys) At this point, the rig will outlive me. Just keep in mind the cost of fuel adds up

[@WickedZZzY]

Ouch. I have owned my 2011 Jeep Grand Cherokee since 82,000 miles. It currently has 248,000 miles. So far I have replaced: Terrain Control Module = $890 A/C blend doors = $600 A/C compressor = $1100 Brakes (2x) = $1200 Total = $3800 Cost per mile = approx 2 cents Your cost per mile = 32 cents So your ownership costs are 16x worse than my Grand Cherokee. And that doesn't even take into consideration your fuel mileage. I average 19 mpg. My fuel cost over 250k miles is $39k Your cost over 250k miles would be $87k Just with the fuel savings alone, I could replace my Jeep three times and still come out ahead...

[@WheretoNextOverland]

Ouch. Yeah, thanks for rubbing it in 🤣 Those are interesting numbers. Definitely bucks the stereotype of Jeep vs Toyota reliability / durability!

[@christopherdiaz1350]

I had a 2011 Jeep Grand Cherokee and it was a mess. Control arms going out all the time and expensive to repair. Had to repair the radiator twice and had many hoses break and leak coolant. Expensive as hell to replace the coolant so often. Touch screen started yellowing and losing color so needed replacement. Always had oil leaks and would always cost +$500 to fix each oil leaks. The last straw with that truck was when the computer burnt the alternator which burnt the battery. Almost $1500. Oh yeah and spark plugs, I had V8, it was 16 spark plugs in that model. I won't like I enjoyed the truck but sure felt like a money pit sometimes. I always had Toyota or Hondas so maybe I am spoiled.

[@WickedZZzY]

@@christopherdiaz1350 Mine was the V6. I think sometimes you just luck out. I've also owned a Dodge Cummins, which is supposed to be one of the most reliable vehicles ever made, and I had nothing but expensive repairs - go figure.

[@williambreeze2659]

I love these trucks! Down the line I'd love to own one, but for now I'm working on getting my money up.

[@carlospinero6248]

Couple of folks mention, but here’s the thing. Buying a new car, even if you pay cash is $$$. I was getting ready to buy a new 60k car and up popped a nice hundy for around 20k. Between the interest (if getting a loan), the taxes, insurance, and depreciation, I decided to buy the 1999 Land Cruiser. Your 100 series would have to be uber expensive in gas and repairs to decide buying new is better. If you really look at the math, you can have the work done by a shop AND fill er up with premium for allot of years to make up that difference. Now I have a built 80 that I’ve owned, built, and maintained for 15 years, and the new 100. The 100 will have a nice mall crawling life while the 80 goes out there!

[@WheretoNextOverland]

Totally agree. That was sort of the point I was trying to make towards the end of the video. Interestingly though, the math does start to make sense for a new vehicle if it can get at least double the MPG of our 100 (and added up over 15 years or so). That difference in MPG starts to negate the depreciation of a new vehicle, while maintenence expense makes up most of the rest of the difference.

[@carlospinero6248]

Great video btw. It’ll be my guide going forward. The other factor that math won’t find is the smiles per mile. I just love these trucks. I love them for their just enough, bullet proof design. For their excellence in engineering. And Land Cruiser people are cool.😂. Thanks for doing these!

[@WheretoNextOverland]

@carlospinero6248 thanks man! Totally agree. The only thing that's gonna tempt me out of a 100 Series Land Cruiser would probably be another (newer) Land Cruiser!

[@jbjdmcruiser23]

Not bad of an amount, I mean considering the mileage of the car and the places you have been taking the rig, without hiccups except that radiator at Death Valley.

[@gavinchapple825]

Great video. Thanks enlightening what still will likely need to be done & spent when you buy a cheaper older car

[@WheretoNextOverland]

Thanks! Yeah, and even more so when most of the older cars mileage are off pavement haha

[@markodell2379]

I don't do my own maintenance either. That is not too bad in three years really. Over time that will even out and be even less. I have a friend who has one of these that would probably be a dream if I could get her to part with it. I think it sits in the garage most of the time.

[@WheretoNextOverland]

Keep working on her to part with it! Haha

[@AldermanFredCDavis]

Forget what tools type. A LOT of people do NOT have the space, tools, and/or time to do their own repairs. Not to mention, not everyone has the aptitude.........or even interest. Worst situation you can be in is to take something apart........that you cannot put back together...........then, go running with your tail between your legs to a shop. The other problem is.........A LOT of shops won't let you bring them parts and they put them on. It's not 1992 anymore. I can live with paying.........as long as the mechanic is competent. Fortunately, I found an outstanding mechanic. If you DO have the space, tools, time, and aptitude........congratulations!

[@emeeul]

Major city resident - lots of shops here still allow you take your parts in. And their rates are half as much as the Lexus or Acura dealers.

[@cabellwestbrook3349]

Any regrets or do-overs regarding your LX470? Now that used car prices are starting to drop, I'm peeking into getting an overland vehicle. On that list are LX470, GX470, Land Cruiser and LR3. Would LOVE something that got better mpg, but a $55k+ new Land Cruiser is probably out of reach. So would you buy the LX470 again, knowing what you know now @WheretoNextOverland?

[@WheretoNextOverland]

That's a good question. I would say no regrets. For the price I paid for the LX and for all the places it's taken us over the past 4 years, it really has been just about the perfect tool for the job. I still enjoy driving it each time I hop in. Ultimately, still a lot cheaper than a new vehicle would've been over that time .... and the cost to maintain I think is largely due to how we use it (wirh the bulk of the miles being off-road) I'd buy it again if I were in the same position I was when we bought it!

[@cabellwestbrook3349]

Thanks for the quick replay @@WheretoNextOverland . It is early in the PNW! Love your channel and so happy I discovered it. Keep the videos coming please...even though some are bittersweet as I remember our years in WA and long to return to the PNW.

[@WheretoNextOverland]

@@cabellwestbrook3349 thanks for the feedback and kind words, glad you're enjoying the videos. We'll keep 'em coming for sure :)

[@mikemurphyseemsliked]

I enjoyed this video, nothing wrong with taking it to a shop if you don't have the space, tools or time.

[@betorocha6125]

Watching this makes me realize that I am way to cheap. I have a 2005 gx470 that a lot of the parts interchange from the 100s. I replaced the timing belt and all parts associated with that. Replaced the Starter along with gaskets and hoses and what not associated with that. All in all it probably cost around 500 or so. It definitely pays to know how to work on your own cars. Totally get that not everyone is mechanically inclined or is intimidated by the nature of the repairs. Also. That shop should've covered the cost of those rack bushings from the remanufactured unit if they got it for you and installed it. I'm sure you paid a mark up on that part if they got it for you... that mark up is to cover if the part they got for you fails in some way.

[@WheretoNextOverland]

Yeah, needing to replace the bushings was annoying. Different shop though, so not their fault.

[@The_Moose_Trophy]

Here is a price/parts breakdown: (all OEM from Toyota parts deal unless otherwise noted) - I own an 80 series not a 100 so I may have missed some gaskets as I am unfamiliar with the engine. Steering rack: $682.62 (44250-60050) (unknown price for gaskets assuming $50) Inner tie rod: 208.63 (45503-69015) Spark plugs 8x: $9.51ea or $76.08 total (90919-01210) Ignition coils 8x: $111.31 ea or $890.48 (90919-02230) Radiator: $370.89 (16400-50210) Coolant: $35.10ea of coolant 4 needed with a total of $140.40. (from yota shop) 2x hose clamps: $7.01ea or $14.02 total (90467-42001) Rear brake pads: $56.99 (04466-60070) Brake rotor: $95.52ea or $191.04 (42431-60220) Lower ball joint: $44.50ea or $89.00 total, from cruiserteq.com, 555 brand (SUS43340) Starter: $116.90 (28100-50070) Intake gaskets: $19.75 (requited for starter replacement) (17116-50010) Steering rack bushings: $72.00 (from sleep off-road) Upper control arms: $344.35 right side (48610-60030) + $344.35 left side (48630-60010) with a total of $688.70 Oil change and dif oil: $108 (taken from video estimate) Brake booster w/ master cylinder: $1136.77 (47050-60010) Brake fluid: $9.18 brake fluid assumed 3x total of $27.54 (from toyota.com) Total: $4,939.74

[@WheretoNextOverland]

This is ..... extremely detailed. Gotta hand it to you for that!

[@EricSSantana]

Thanks for giving me the absolute worst case scenario for cost of ownership. I now know that’s the ceiling.

[@WheretoNextOverland]

I mean, it's more than average, but definitely not the ceiling for a 100. But still, 100% worth it!

[@gawtdang]

It’s all relative but in your opinion, is a 2000 LX470 with 75k original miles a better option over a 2006 LX470 with 180k miles for the same price. Just getting into it and still don’t know enough about the differences in the engine to know at what point one is better than the other.

[@WheretoNextOverland]

Most people would probably say 2006 is a more desirable year than 2000, mostly due to the 06 having a 5 speed transmission and a bump in engine power. In my mind, I'd be looking at whichever one has been better maintained, is in the best shape overall, and has the least amount of rust. In my opinion, mileage isn't as important as overall condition and upkeep when it comes to 100's.

[@stevestockdale3556]

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[@nilsmolzen6654]

You need to do your own service and repairs, farm it out if you earn a hefty hourly rate. You need to know your vehicle inside out if you travel into out of the way places.

[@alexanderfreyr4713]

recommend checking out j120 Prado or the GX470 they are bit more compact and lighter they are bit more easy on the wallet if there any one looking for a old Land Cruiser. j90 is very retro and very friendly for the new home mechanic

[@todsharigian9877]

I don't think I heard the year and mileage when you purchased?

[@WheretoNextOverland]

Bought it August 2019 at about 230K miles

[@todsharigian9877]

Is it a 2000 or 2001?

[@WheretoNextOverland]

2000@@todsharigian9877

[@Shakshuka69]

I've spent about $8k on mechanical maintenance on my FZJ80 over the last year/20k miles between the Head gasket/top end rebuild, knuckle rebuild, and AC repairs.

[@Rogerraybemsleyjr]

total repair is just over cost of fuel wow not bad.

[@cbreced1]

Thanks for this great video. Exactly what I was looking for. I'm inheriting a '99 100 series which my parents were original owners. Fortunately, this only has a little over 100k miles on it, and has been garaged it's who life and never off road. It's a great vehicle in fantastic condition. I know I'm lucky. But I was concerned about maintenance costs. I expect we will only put 5k to 7k miles on it per year. I have been back and forth on whether we should keep or sell the truck. I'm leaning more and more towards keeping it. Thanks again!

[@WheretoNextOverland]

If it were me, I'd keep it! If you're gonna use it mostly for on-road duty, I don't imagine the maintenance costs would be anything like mine have been. If you plan to use it quite a bit for offroading, that'll probably increase what you need to do

[@cbreced1]

@@WheretoNextOverland exactly my thoughts. It will be on road 98%. Have a Jeep and F150 for the offroad duties. Thanks

[@marketingbusiness9987]

Na, You're looking at future high cost maintanance. Just sell it to me instead...

[@WheretoNextOverland]

@marketingbusiness9987 😆 🤣

[@cbreced1]

@@marketingbusiness9987 😜

[@solarforfuture]

1 gen sequoia 4X , 350 K on chassis... last owner did engine /trans R+R 100 k ago about 2 grand... few other things... last 5 years i gave it some brakes.. battery... few dents... still wheelin as a work truck... threw out 200 lbs of back seats! never looked back.

[@kevingeraci2290]

A bumper to bumper warranty would have cost $3,000, all of those repairs except the fluid changes and brake pads) would have been covered and he would have saved $8,000+ and still have 2 years left and 20,000 miles left…everyone says they are a waste of money…in 32 years I have never lost a dime on any of them (have broken even a couple cars but never lost any amount over $500)

[@WheretoNextOverland]

I suppose the trick there is finding a company that will ACTUALLY pay out and isn't a colossal pain to deal with. Do you have a particular company you use and have had good luck with. I'm also curious if one of those companies would even offer a warranty on a 20+ year old vehicle with 200k+ miles. Seems unlikely?

[@rjhein]

I owned a 100 series (1999 LX) for 5 years, prior to getting a 200 series. Never had anything major go on it during that time, but I fully baselined all the fluids (including AHC), and did the timing belt/water pump shortly after purchase. Had to replace a coil pack. NOTE: the coil packs are literally a 5-10 minute procedure, so I just always had a spare in the glovebox, and brought a cheap code reader and engine firing map with me at all times. One 10mm bolt (quite literally) lol. Anyway I still stay in touch with the current owner too - He's FINALLY had the AHC system act up which cost him a bit of $$, but that's after 275k miles. These are awesome vehicles! Question - have you regularly changed your AHC fluid? Or had any issues with it?

[@Veyronp87]

very interesting video. the total lack of depreciation makes it worth it IMO. people really forget about that cost. the fuel economy stinks though lol, im sure at 5-6 bucks a gallon, it can get old

[@WheretoNextOverland]

Thanks! You're right about the lack of depreciation. Definitely offsets the maintenence costs (and then some probably)

[@cabellwestbrook3349]

@WheretoNextOverland have you considered doing a "what to look for when purchasing a 100 series?" video? Or if you have, please shoot me the link! Thanks.

[@WheretoNextOverland]

I have thought about it, but haven't filmed one yet. I agree that it would be a good topic for a video though!

[@cabellwestbrook3349]

This one might be good enough - kzbin.info/www/bejne/rqW6iouVqL-gfs0 - but would still love to see one from you@@WheretoNextOverland

[@khalidhassaan2719]

This video is proof on why people don't take it to the shop or at least buy parts first. For future reference, is probably better to do sites like RockAuto where you can get the non markup prices for your parts that most dealerships use. (I used to work at Lexus and techs would recommend this and LKQ) For the major work that I don't trust myself with I at least buy reputable parts from said sites so that way I'm only paying for labor. What's better is being connected with friends or family that work in a shop. So that way labor rates are reduced.

[@mattflores8911]

Hi there! Currently looking into buying an LX470 and I’m wondering if there truly is any difference between the 2005 and 2006-2007 versions aside from the 50 hp bump

[@cristinford8479]

I dropped a $3k+ bill on the Expedition last month because literally everything was leaking underneath 😂 You ride these things hard, I don’t buy the idea that you wouldn’t have to drop some serious repair money on a new vehicle too, even under warranty.

[@WheretoNextOverland]

Fair point .... but different things break & wear out older, higher mileage vehicles.

[@timmyireland1]

My 2008 toyota highlander costs AUD $95 - $105 per week to fill I drive approx 470km per week. My yearly fuel cost is therefore $4940 - $5460

[@Dansk55]

Damn! I'll keep my Rx300. Haven't found any sections of trails it has a hard time with. Love this car

[@WheretoNextOverland]

Hey, if it a'int broke ....

[@supergproductions8758]

A better cost of ownership comparison would be lease a new LC for $680 month. Fuel cost would be about 50% better too. Also resale can't be factored in either until it sales. You should use time weighted cost of the money spent to buy the vehicle not the purchase and resale price. ie your 20k could be earning 5% year is a savings account instead of sitting in a vehicle. So for about the same amount of money you could drive a brand new 2024 LC with no maintenance or trips to the mechanic or downtime and better fuel economy. That's why 14 million new cars are sold in the US the cost of ownership is ridiculous if you pay someone to do it.

[@WheretoNextOverland]

This is a really thought-provoking & interesting comment. Thanks for sharing it! Doing a little airport lounge napkin math (where I find myself as I type this lol), I'm coming up with a 3 year cost of ownership for a new leased LC (inclusive of fuel) of ~ $30K versus a 3 year cost of ownership for a 100 series of ~ $21K. (Assumptions: $3K / yr maintenance on 100 Series and 12 MPG vs 24 MPG for an LC250) It doesn't factor in purchase price of a 100 .... but since they are effectively at the bottom of their depreciation curve, that seems fair since you can sell it at the end of those 3 years if you want. I will say ... that $9K gap over 3 years isn't massive ... so that's pretty eye opening. You're right that I'm not factoring time weighted cost ... because that seems like way too much work right now 🤣 BUT .... I suppose it would swing things ever so slightly closer to even (but not all that much). What am I missing / getting wrong here? Probably something ...

[@MichaelMEndenhall]

So, I went through your list. And if you did them yourself. It would have been about $2000. ($1600, plus 400 in miscellaneous funds)

[@WheretoNextOverland]

Assuming you buy non-OEM or used parts from a junkyard, that seems possible. But for those of us who believe maintaining a 100 is (usually) best done with OEM parts, that number is gonna be much higher. Just using the brake booster assembly as an example .... the part alone is between $1,300 - $1,600. OEM steering racks aren't cheap either, etc etc. I suspect that number (for parts) would be closer to $5-6K ... but it would be an interesting exercise to add them all up

[@MichaelMEndenhall]

@WheretoNextOverland First, I appreciate your response and your 100 series content. 2nd, you stated you didn't have the ability to fix it yourself, which is perfectly fine, as not everyone has their own personal choices. But I found it an interesting comparison using diy with non OEM pricing. And I usually agree OEM is the best replacement. But most after-market parts come with warranties. And regardless of that, they usually last almost as long as oem and cost 2-4 times less. As with most things, it's a personal choice, and I'm glad you are taking care of your rig. Best of luck with it and your channel.

[@WheretoNextOverland]

@Michael MEndenhall thanks man. Appreciate your perspective as well! I mean, I'll be honest ... I admire those who posess the time, tools, knowledge, and desire to do all their own maintenance, but it's just not my jam. For sure though, the costs I outlined in the video will be on the high end considering the cost for OEM parts and labor.

[@roblord337]

If you factor in appreciation, which you have to if you’re doing a series financial analysis, this car is a no-brainer win!

[@WheretoNextOverland]

For sure, the maintenance stings less knowing that I'm not losing value on the truck itself (though 100 series prices have come back down to earth a bit since their peak)

[@cardrivingdude]

21k is still way cheaper and/or way more reliable than any modern vehicle will be. Once all the restoration is done you'll have one of the most reliable vehicles on the road.

[@christianlouis4218]

Good honest review 😢I want one 🎉

[@WheretoNextOverland]

Thanks! They are well worth owning

[@matthewweyhmiller8666]

Don't forget taxes and insurance are way cheaper per year than new vehicles, plus new vehicles need brakes and fluid changes as well.

[@WheretoNextOverland]

All good points! The insurance could make up a hefty difference for a new 60K truck for sure

[@Stumpman61]

You are not an idiot… I want one and I would probably do the same , take it to a shop 👍🏻😊and now with all that out of the way look what you have . It will be years probably before you have to do some of that stuff again.

[@jonmandelbaum5395]

How is value calculated? Is it supply and demand plus durability or what

[@WheretoNextOverland]

Value on the used market seems to stem from their reputation for durability / reliability / capability. At least that's my take...

[@Dinolobe376]

Even in canadian dollars these repair costs would be incredibly high for what they are. I’m pretty sure that it’s possible to do the same repairs for close to 5k

[@samman4602]

Valve cover gasket , TB+WP , ahc fluid flush, alternator replacement is in your future. Add another $4,000

[@AlienSasquatch14]

Yeah, owning these or the GX470 with high miles and age really is only cost-effective if you do your own work.

[@WheretoNextOverland]

Can confirm! Haha

[@AlienSasquatch14]

@@WheretoNextOverland But, if I never have to change out the brake booster again I'll be super happy. 🤣 That was a chore on my GX470 that I hope to never repeat.

[@jonathanhuynh880]

Love it how he compared to a 4 runner because the was the cheaper dream vehicle for end of year sale, and yes I agree reliable is amazing but I have more than 1 car.. soo it’s fuel I need, the other cars are decent so need to worry as heavy but they are old

[@E39M5SPEED]

I totally understand you not wanting to deal with it yourself and just taking it to a shop and that’s cool and all but you have to learn how to do these maintenance repairs yourself . Not only is it interesting to learn to use your brain and your hands on how to fix your own truck but also it will allow you to gain knowledge on the weak points and potential future issues that you will be able to resolve yourself even if you are thousands of miles away from home. For a small price $800-$1000 so you can buy yourself a small tool set that you can keep in the trunk of that vehicle for any potential emergency that you would need to remedy . I understand that everyone is different and you can continue to keep taking your truck to your preferred Toyota technician, but I highly recommend you start learning how to wrench on these things yourself .

[@WheretoNextOverland]

Your point is valid, and especially true given that we are often in the middle of nowhere off road. I do bring a tool set and even a few spares (heater T's). I'm not TOTALLY helpless when it comes to working on a vehicle .... but it's also not a 'hobby' that I enjoy.

[@唐瀚-n5q]

Is there anything wrong with your brake or just PM at this mileage?

[@theniceones1613]

truth be told, for such high mileage vehicles this is not suprising. Especially since you guys are always on the road with it as well.

[@WheretoNextOverland]

Yeah for sure. I mean we JUST got back from a 2 week, 3,000 mile trip and a LOT of those miles were off pavement. We definitely don't put a lot of "gentle" miles on our 100, so it makes sense that things need attention more often. Still .... I LOVE roadtripping and offroading in the LX. It serves us so well

[@Nero-yb7di]

Should I buy it as a first car as a collage student?

[@WheretoNextOverland]

@Nero-yb7di sure, as long as you're OK with 12MPG and maybe $3-5K per year in maintenance / repairs (might be more initially if you buy one with a lot of deferred maintenance)

[@Nero-yb7di]

@ So I got 3 options, all 3 are bad in terms of MPG. It’s either this car, a Range Rover L322, or a large truck of some sort.

[@mamatronic963]

y man has been getting ripped Off to the next level!!! - $1,110.00 for Spark plugs and coils - 30 min Job!!! Hahahahahah Well, I wish I had all that extra cash laying around :S I've always wondered why people would finance a 30K car and sign up for $500 monthly payment. I guess, if you are not handy, it pays off having a new/maintenance free car instead of an older car that needs basic repairs.