The True Orberos run! | Peglin Early Access!

[@fabianschultz]

I agree with some of your complaints some others are wrong IMO. The chip for example I agree with. It’s stupid to have a relic which costs life to get and also kills your damage more than it helps. The bugs, that upside down stage and that red bomb stage I also agree with. However I disagree with the complaint that there are negative events. It adds risk reward in going for events. Of course it is a feels bad moment, but at the same time you getting free stuff feels good. If there weren’t bad events it would make it far more boring to go for them. Another thing I disagree with is the complaint about the enemy turn on reload. If you have just one good orb there wouldn’t be any incentive to get more especially if it is already leveled up. And leveling up one orb is far easier than leveling 6. To balance that you’re getting damaged more often. If you didn’t have that your run would basically be the same shot over and over again. While I do understand your feelings about things most of the time, it sounds to me like you want games to be OP every single run if possible right from the start no risk involved. It feels a bit like when children do roleplay and start by saying my character/ I am the strongest which again understandable but pretty lame. Anyways, agreement or not, it doesn’t make for the best viewing experience if you rant all the time (at least to me). But I really like to watch you. So like can you set yourself a goal to limit the rants to like once per vid or 10 min or something? I think it would make the viewing experience even better and also keep you more positive

[@tritixd1278]

at 7:07 you say you lost the egg but you can discard again after you reload your orbs

[@oygemprime3864]

25:05 he runs out an orberos by firing it, not realizing he could have discarded it because of the reload

[@magellan6439]

He does that a lot this run.

[@kfed9834]

7:00 Sifd idk if you realized but it looks like the devs also changed it so you refresh your rerolls after a full reload. Like you can throw another orb away after you reload, at least it's seemed like that was a thing now.

[@AlittleTooClose]

Its nice that you're trying to be more positive, even though it won't change anything. When the tilt is high, mean Sifd will shine through!

[@Drybones898]

Sifd every five videos: “I’ve decided to have a more positive outlook.”

[@bryangriffin6783]

@@Drybones898 Yet it always seems to stay negative xD

[@nekroneko]

I wonder if the devs have considered adding pegs or an item that makes pegs become healing and shield pegs. That could mitigate some of the damage taken from enemies.

[@cuddlecakes7153]

better to just add more pegs or make the ball have less weight so it actually hits stuff like Peggle

[@TimeConvolution]

Just having balls with some shielding in your deck would be huge

[@kfed9834]

That relic that damages you + the amethyst that heals you + the ring that damages enemies 3x what you take, literally unstoppable but the chance of getting all 3 in your run is super low and only 2 of those relics are good on their own

[@zacharycates5485]

I would say there is a significant difference between constructive criticism and complaining. They may both point out negative things, but for me, criticism’s purpose is ultimately to improve the thing being criticized, whereas complaining is just whining that things aren’t going your way. It’s totally fine to complain. Nobody HAS to be trying to improve a game that they’re playing. But complaints are only so entertaining to listen to. Especially a torrent of complaints, a lot of which are just repeats of the same complaint again and again. And, personally, if I thought the devs of a game might be listening to my feedback, I would try to phrase any issues I might have as constuctively as possible.

[@darioferretti3758]

the mirrors seems to be doing: X/20 the pink ones in act 2, X/10 the purple ones in act 3 and X/50 the black ones in act 3 (the result is always rounded down) where X is the damage dealt to them (as long as you hit them with a thrown orb)

[@maddog2314]

Love double ourorbos. On the demo I once got the duplicate mirror right after the ourorbos, it was sick. Also, the last damage value dealt is in my name.

[@-_-noxe-_-5623]

actually the bug with the nosforbatu scaling up both at the same time comes from the fact that one of them is a copy of the other (you payed 5 life todupe your entire deck in act 1)

[@relax_rx]

It isn't a bug, it says it increases self damage, not the self damage of that orb

[@fabianschultz]

@@relax_rx it’s a bug. Otherwise it wouldn’t only happen to the lvl3

[@relax_rx]

@@fabianschultz never noticed that it only happens to the lv 3

[@arkdirfe]

If that's what caused it that would be even more embarassing. Either way, it's shoddy coding.

[@halconnen]

The nosf self-damage must be getting buffed by the echo relic.

[@tristanwegner]

Yes. Echo also increases self damage apparently

[@alkestos]

that's such a trash mechanic

[@marcalcantara1174]

@@alkestos your comment is such a trash mechanic

[@jeezuhskriste5759]

I don’t think that’s it. At 45:40, he does 403 damage, so if it was getting boosted by the 10% echo, that’d be +40 on the base of 15, so 55. But when he checks it, it’s doing 51 damage. Notably, 51 - 15 is 36, a multiple of 6, which is how much that orb increases its set damage by. Same with the level 3 - I’m pretty sure it was always a multiple of 5. I think, for some reason, it’s counting hits from other orbs towards its self damage.

[@gvarph7212]

17:10 The idea is that you shouldn't use thrown orbs against them. You should kill them with either bombs, piercing attacks or attacks that target the selected enemy/column Edit: also I belive that the nosforbatu self damage is increased by 10% of your previous shot which is not *that* bad since it also increases the healing by the same number (but still not good since you can't use the orb on low health)

[@jeezuhskriste5759]

If that was the case, it would’ve been even higher, in the 70s on a bad shot. Like at 39:20, it’s doing 40, but the previous shot did 550. If it was getting that boost, it would be doing 70. I think it’s more likely tracking shots from orbs that aren’t itself for some reason. Edit: I think specifically it’s tracking the recursive shots on Orberos, as in all the ones after the first

[@DemiNek0]

For Backpack hero, there is a ring/bracelet item with a skull who boosts all adjasent and diagonal items by +3 damage for "this combat" for 1 mana. I just finished a run with 3 cleavers that item and alot of manastones. Like it doesnt even take up alot of space, you can spam the ring first turn, and then beat almost everything. The more cleavers you have the better. Also, red and green cleavers can combo, so youre not limited at 5 cleavers. All you need is to make it extra broken, is the boss relic that boosts nearby weapons damage when a weapon is used. Like it goes extremely broken, really fast. I had no defence, only 3 cleavers, 3 hatchets i picked up as extra stuff cause i had room, and had some place for food. Spikes are a bit of a problem, so you may want something to deal with that

[@scotte4168]

Appreciate the positivity, Sifd!

[@05council73]

But Sifd! When you delete an orb and it reloads, you get your delete back

[@ThatNerdGuy0]

7:03 you can now discard after reload, nice

[@therealf2377]

nosforbatu increases future self damage after being thrown, that's why it shows up as 20 or 25 later

[@relax_rx]

Finally someone who read the whole description of the orb

[@marcalcantara1174]

Then why it only increases it one the tier 3 nosferatorb? Should increase both (asking also the dude with "finally someone that reads")

[@relax_rx]

The numbers go up by the wrong amount (it's a bug), but they are supposed to go up on every orb that damages you

[@GodChaos333]

I will say on the topic of the complaining comments people made. I think maybe they meant to say they want to hear more banter that isn’t just mainly complaining about the game. Just guessing honestly. I don’t mind it. The game needs feedback while it’s not finished yet. I wouldn’t mind more banter about other things. If you have any other topics to talk about try it out. Good banter about the game, as well as other topics is what makes KZbinrs so interesting to watch.

[@mikeemilt7446]

him thinking nasfurbatu is bugged: aka him not readying the last part of it

[@beepboop1132]

Wand of skulltimate power looks like it could synergize really well with the gem that brings your max HP down by 50, considering one deals 1 damage every 4 pegs hit, and the other heals you every 5 pegs hit. It's a shame that you can't get the healing before getting the wand.

[@HollandB]

You can through the event that gives you a forest boss

[@zwxyer]

isnt it every 5 hits?

[@beepboop1132]

@@zwxyer ah, you're right. sorry about that. still a somewhat decent combo, just doesn't fully mitigate the hp you lose

[@zwxyer]

@@beepboop1132 yeah.. there is that (corn?) relic which gives every 12 hits, both together can compensate.

[@ttoille425]

45:50 i think it's because the calculation counts all orb throws instead of only the nosforbatu so if it's intended it's very unclear edit: wait it's incredibly inconsistent what the heck is that orb edit 2: yea no that's what you were supposing basically, i should watch the video completely before talking

[@airtoumfake]

I know it's probably not optimal, but I would love to see you pick up a variety of orbs/relics. I haven't seen Infernorb or Bramble Orb in a while, and maybe it could be fun to watch how your gameplay shifts when you pick up Sapper Sack or Wand of Skulltimate power

[@Transfem_Iron_Valiant]

*Bramball

[@05council73]

Day 6 of asking for the ‘Balanced’ run: 4 Omegorb, 4 Swoltorb, Overwhammer, Gift that keeps on giving

[@freshbobicado5701]

If you discard an orb and then reload, you can discard again.

[@Lazerlord5275]

Orberos + Matrashka (idk how to spell it) shell run?

[@jimothy7665]

The only time the +3 stones does not make your run worse is if you for some reason go for an orbelisk run or something

[@unbasedcontrarian]

Sometimes the trash that you pick up is part of the challenge. It’s a rogue like with heavy RNG, I like that you can either be way over-powered, absolutely f***ed, or just have a general challenge. I don’t mind that there are super bad events because there are always extremely powerful events and artifacts. Part of the fun of winning is the fact that you might lose imo. Also, I think the invisible stages are just missing the needed graphics due to early access… but maybe not. If not, I think it definitely needs to be changed, just watching an orb bounce around without any understanding as to why is kind of lame, a big part of what’s satisfying in this game is seeing the orb hit a lot of pegs, but if you can’t see the pegs… what’s the point?

[@Sifd]

Well, the thing is that there aren't any crazy good events... maybe 1-2 but that's it, and I would say there are at least 10 bad events so that's why I am talking more about trash than not :P No clue what's up with the invis stage, we will know at the 25 of Aprill when the game launches in EA for everybody

[@unbasedcontrarian]

@@Sifd that is a very fair point!

[@Lazerlord5275]

Day two of asking: where do you get your mods?

[@averageviewer8511]

I don't think the nosforbatu scaling is a bug. The orb says that it increases the self damage of the orb and both of them have the same effect (self damage), so they scale off of one another. EDIT: I'm just guessing people though it was a bug from the comment section, haha.

[@marcalcantara1174]

But only one of them scaled while the other remained at 15 self damage, how is that not a bug?

[@averageviewer8511]

@@marcalcantara1174 Then its separate scaling and so the self damage increase is referencing that orb only

[@marcalcantara1174]

@@averageviewer8511 there's no reason for it to affect only one but... I'm not gonna look at this video again to find where did it affect the tier 3 having the other one closer but I'm gonna tell you that he did do an only nosferatu run long ago and this exact glitch happens there, and doesn't jump to the next one instead it affected all the tier 2 IIRC

[@averageviewer8511]

@@marcalcantara1174 Ah, then the game references each tier as a separate orb. Could be a bug but I would call it dev oversight at that point

[@marcalcantara1174]

@@averageviewer8511 I can agree on that one. Not gonna say that it is untested cause it's kinda too niche but something is off there for sure. Maybe they'll patch it if the devs still have the patience to watch these

[@hunszaszist]

The reason they have the two attack mechanic on deck refresh is EXACTLY so you can't just have a single orb build my dude

[@catfoodbob1]

They really need to make the wand of skulltimate power not kill until after the the orb is resovled

[@HollandB]

What is the nosforbatu bug, I don’t get it, it works as it says on the orb description.

[@breadeater1972]

Weighted Chip + Orobororb thing = Video idea?

[@lebadger019]

Upgraded swoltorb seems like it would be broken with orboros. And maybe splatorb just to add bounce

[@ShufflesCards]

Echorb might help you in act 2 getting past shields

[@tschichpich]

In the Invisible stage, can you click the candle to get light and see the stage?

[@icantpronounce]

you can take 3 stones if you're trying to do orbaslisk but thats a pain in the butt

[@DeondreRichmond]

Splatorb is killer. i watched retro use it and he was getting damage into the thousands. should of took it

[@alkestos]

should have taken*

[@DeondreRichmond]

@@alkestos don't care because you can understand what it meant.

[@qo7052]

Are you gonna do thematic runs in early access?

[@squeakyleekgaming4955]

Echo chamber causes the extra damage to u on nosforbatu

[@unnamed8622]

Ouroborbos would probably be a better name than Orberos imo

[@Fellow_Tea_Drinker]

TEA

[@red-xy5ff]

TEA

[@relax_rx]

TEA

[@walljaik]

46:09 i can easily read that Nosforbatu will increase by 6 self-damage this battle :) no bug there....

[@marcalcantara1174]

The bug is that only affects the tier 3 and not the other one ":)"

[@jeezuhskriste5759]

He hasn’t shot it, it shouldn’t be increased at all.

[@unbasedcontrarian]

Nosforbatu should be called “Nosforballtu”

[@Sifd]

It's supposed to be an orb not a ball Or I missed the joke

[@unbasedcontrarian]

@@Sifd lol I was tired when I wrote that, ignore my dumbness haha

[@JustSmileyFace...]

Noice

[@AndrewTheYouTubeCommentator]

Asking Sifd to do another Inscryption video Attempt 30

[@spidy6067]

Is sifd a bad player or are his opinions right? Neither of these are right you are a very good player, but you don't know anything about good balancing if the game is balanced correct it doesn't get boring, if the events were op it would be no brainer to always chose them. You want everything to be easy and every thing in a game to only make it easier. It removes the choice if every run was as busted as the other, it wouldn't be a rouglike, it wouldn't have replay value. That's my opinion as a person who enjoys hard games and has some knowledge about making games.

[@Schilani]

"How did this bug get past testing?" My guess would be, that they only tested it with relics that are supposed to interact with the orbs, and not every single relic. Or every relic combination. Or every combination of every orb with every relic. And with every possible level combination of the orbs. Sometimes code just has a hiccup. Also in a rogue-like game not every event has to be fair. Rogue-likes generally work against you. They want to kill you. That's just it. Like with vampire survivors. If the game doesn't want you to have a certain weapon that you wanted your build to revolve around, you are just straight up fucked. And in Peglin there are so many different enemies, because they don't want you to just facestomp everything no problem with a single orb. Like piercing does nothing against single enemies, but is godly against the shielded enemies. That's also a reason for the extra turn on reload. Generally in these games with decks, you want them as small as possible, because you only want to draw your good stuff. Well, Peglin takes a different turn, because if you only have one orb that kills one enemy per turn, but you have to reload after every shot, you are fucked. And there is nothing wrong with that.

[@emanuele7740]

When you mod the game make a run where you have oreb instead of stones 🤔👌

[@beaniiman]

"too much of a big deck" as he adds his 5th orb in act III. I saw someone who was taking every orb and then doubled them, it was the dumbest run I have ever seen.

[@Sifd]

Yes because that orb is also able to scale really well (you mean the memorb I assume)

[@emanuele7740]

But siiifd your video are to goood!!!1!1!!!!111!!

[@beesuschrist1167]

the game is also very early access

[@Nauriek]

Personally, i find that most youtubers make the music faaar to quiet. Like, you hear the sound effects, but the music is inaudible - and when they praise the music, i always have to crank my volume waaaaay up to even hear it, and then my eardrums get blasted by their ludicrously booming voice the moment they say anything... I liked it when you increased the volume on the final boss in one of your previous videos, but even then, i had to almost triple my volume to hear it. I dunno what's up with people making music super quiet in their videos, are they worried their voice gets drowned out?

[@starshot9418]

It's always louder on their part

[@ThatNerdGuy0]

the ring was NERFED NOOOO

[@beaniiman]

how about the option to pick it up devs, why?!?!?!

[@Sifd]

Because it's seems like the Events are made to kill your run if they can

[@IlllIlIIllllIllIIIlIllI]

I understand some of the complaints, but man... if everything was super easy, you might as well not call the game a roguelike. There are always forced negatives in roguelikes. And just because a bug exists, that doesn't mean a developer doesn't know about it. It is EXTREMELY likely that the devs know about the Nosforbatu bug, but they can't just maximize their focus into the one bug. Again, I think a few complaints are valid here, but quite a bit of them just come off as "I'm not an overpowered god and I'm upset"

[@ADRdaniel]

[@Sifd]

[@EKClone]

honestly, you got used to the way vampire survivor adds content to just be fun, this game tries more to be balanced between fun and challenging.

[@dankmemes8254]

No no some stuff are really absurd like how most events takes your life anyway and some fights are harder than the main boss area especially the downside enemy elite fight

[@brandoncarter3136]

DUDE, it isn't WHAT your whining about. it is the degree of literally WHINING. It isn't enjoyable to watch. The fact that it's the same complaints on loop is also grating... I wanted to watch a light hearted game and if you suffer a little great! Can we skip the apologies, negativity, hyper analyzing, your preffered game changes(convoluted as hell) monologs, constant questions(which is mostly you wanting your opinions re-affirmed) I like most of your videos, but your just doing everything you can in the peglin runs to push casual viewers away. (Quick add) sorry if that seems a little mean, it's just hard to watch a good channel go bad.

[@relax_rx]

What do you mean with "can we skip the [...] monologs"? Isn't every KZbinr doing monologs then they do a video?

[@mysticmallachi777]

This game is a salt mine disguised as a cutesy kid's pachinko game, and I'm not actually looking forward to playing it in the state it's in. I don't want my perfect build completely ruined by random junk after I spent who knows how many runs to start putting it together!

[@expepem189xl3]

I played again in peglin after long time not playing, and found out that game get much harder, which is good, but also game become less funnier to play, its was cool to blind bosses, found brambles and Etc, but now its hard to do , and also i become really bad at shoots, so i burning from some stages(

[@cheuknamtai2385]

43:20 I think that is the worse event design. There are no choices and the player are just shoved an orb. It seem unfinished and that the dev just wanted to give the orb to players to try it out.

[@cryo7847]

Idk, to me it's not about being good or bad at the game, but clicking on a video about a game and having it mostly be someone complaining about it. It feels like you aren't really enjoying the game and thus it makes it harder to enjoy watching that. Some people like that kind of content tho, so it could just be me

[@dandydonner2566]

I hadn't thought about this game in so long and watched this and kind of thought it couldnt be nearly this bad and not as bad as I remember. No it is this bad. I picked it up again only for half of the orbs to do little to nothing still. It essentially just says fuck you if the reset is in a bad position and forces you to waste multiple turns just to reset the pegs. Than on top of that it essentially punishes you for playing than gives you basic relics that are features that should be a basic part of the game like hitting multiple crits should do something other than just waste a crit and add nothing. And FUCK ECHO orb like seriously it doesn't carry over reroll so just pray it doesn't end up as your first orb in the line, it doesn't stack on multiple bounces so it does the same damage no matter what, oh and you think the damage might be nice nope you have to get at least 150 damage on your prior shot, almost impossible by the way, for it to do literally anything worth while. This game strait up feels like the dev's said how can we make people never want to touch this game again cause even good runs don't feel good.

[@marcalcantara1174]

Git gud

[@Eranderil]

My only grumble is that you act like this is a AAA title, while it's an early access indi. If you have a complaint, submit a report- YOU are the tester, so when you find something wrong, message the dev's about it instead of just grumbling. Since your recording anyway, there's a good chance you can just link the vid to the devs and they can see for themselves. You keep asking "how did this bug get past testing?" Simple- YOU didn't report it. I don't mean to just blow a gasket at you in particular Sifd, just this is a very common mentality of early access players and it is incredibly foolish. Whining about problems but never actually reporting them doesn't get them fixed. Dev's hear the complaints, but they focus on the things that actually get reported and the reasoning behind it is that "If a problem is substantial enough to get a bug report, and multiple people are taking the time to actually go through the process, then we can justify it as a significant or actually urgent problem. Otherwise, it's just complaining." Consider the time constraints dev's are under and the amount of work they have to do. They may never have time to fix every complaint of every person. Take the time, find the proper channel to report bugs, and report. Otherwise, you don't really have room to grumble because you clearly don't actually care and are belly aching for the sake of being mad.

[@red-xy5ff]

Hi 14 seconds late

[@sterbendes300]

Waaa

[@serdarylmaz2649]

hey I said you were harsh to this game but I love your videos regardless and I know that for a fact that the game is hard thats why I dont play it myself xD anyways I hope my comment didnt effect you negatively if it did Im sorry I didnt mean to do so you are Nice !