The True Origins of BATMAN BEYOND Supervillains - Explained

“Batman Beyond” introduced several brand-new supervillains to the DC animated mythos…but did you know that a LOT of them were based on older Bat-baddies that never made it into “Batman: The Animated Series”?
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[@VicEntity]

0:30 So you're saying you wouldn't want to see a Riddler story where he has Alzheimer's disease and keeps calling Terry "Bruce" and Terry thinks it's going to be easy to take him down because of the dementia but the Riddler keeps outsmarting him?

[@kyletowers9662]

that does sound rad

[@andrewquick4176]

THAT WOULD BE AWESOME

[@arcadiaberger9204]

*_D A N G . . . !_*

[@ANW115]

Yes pls

[@ProjektTaku]

why yes I would like that.

[@joshberninger8355]

I think Poison Ivy would have been interesting return. Neo Gotham was very industrial with less and less green space. Ivy would have been great to see come back trying to fight this “war on plants” as she’d probably see it. About the only green areas we ever see are lawns and wooded areas around estates like Wayne Manor.

[@mrheroprimes]

in Return of the Joker the outskirts of Neo Gotham look like a desert which raises the question how much damage did the near apocalypse of 09 do.

[@anthonyrodriguez3495]

Yeah, unfortunately unlike comic Ivy this one is mortal, heck tie in comics reveal that the poison Ivy in the final season of BTAS isn't even the real Ivy, their a series of Plant Clones that Ivy makes to keep Harley company while Pamela lives in retirement. Once Harley stopped being a villain there's no more reason to make Ivy clones.

[@somethingfunny2199]

@@anthonyrodriguez3495 As much as I love the idea of Pamela calling it quits and living a quiet life at least only coming back to Gotham to visit Harley after she “died” I can’t get the idea of Ivy returning at some point in Terry’s career out of my head. It would be pretty cool if we got a low stakes down to Earth story about an elderly Ivy and maybe a small group of clones returning life to the outside of New Gotham

[@Bowiiihowdy]

​@Robomerc I just wanna see what exactly happend during that.. I know Ra's was the driving force so it must have been a hell of an event

[@kenthuang436]

Poison Ivy returning would have been interesting and they could have done a societal redemption story for her where she is trying to grow new plants to help balance out the future Gotham’s cityscape that has very little greenery to it and to provide some more sources of breathable air. Ivy is trying to cause any harm but Bruce is somewhat skeptical of her motives but Terry sees that she means no real harm. But some teens vandalize the garden that she had created with the goal of providing people an area to grow their own fruits and vegetables and this sets her off and she creates a plant monster to help her get back at the teens. Terry then manages to calm Ivy down and tell her that some people don’t understand what she is trying to do and that violence isn’t the way to get others to respect plant life. In the process an older Harley appears and rekindles their friendship and both hug each other as it has been a very long time since they last saw each other.

[@peterdanior4538]

I would have liked to see the Beyond version of the Farmer Brown Clan. So many possibilities they could do with Grandchildren

[@ItsAVolcano]

With the chemical cocktail Farmer Brown had his daughter on we could easily have seen an Emmylou who was still in her prime leading said clan.

[@phatmantv]

Man, that would be terrific.

[@Dhampir101980]

It would be a great reason to bring back the concept of Splicing as well. That was one of the show’s darkest episodes

[@SerumLake]

False Face was also a villain from the 60’s Batman TV show. He was a slightly more grounded version of Clayface in that he wore a creepy mask like the original but was able to transform in to other people like the second.

[@tylersaez4095]

The Batman 66 comics actually turned False Face into Clayface.

[@Ted-Kendrick]

I totally forgot about the 60s False Face! That would have been worth the mention!

[@SerumLake]

@Mark Guerrero I’d imagine it was because the first Clayface was too gruesome for the show, and the second one would’ve been too difficult/expensive to bring to the small screen.

[@mrheroprimes]

​@@SerumLake The reason the Clayface was swapped out for False Face was because clayface's powers would have been very difficult to recreate in the 1960s. so the choices was made to give Basil Karlo the False Face id ironically False Face only appeared for one storyline. The character never returned as the False Face mask scared younger viewers.

[@SerumLake]

@@mrheroprimes apparently there was some sort of contract dispute with the actor that played him as well. This was another reason why they opted to not bring the character back (although they didn't have a problem recasting Mr Freeze...)

[@ems6706]

I used to write Batman beyond fanfic and I always had this concept for Clock King adjacent villain. Basically the starting premise is that Clock King after getting arrested wrote a manifesto about efficiency that ends up as a very prized piece of information after a Mega Corp dedicated to software institutes it and has a nearly 50 percent raise in efficiency. However, the CEO of said corporation decides to create an AI built with the manifesto in mind to regulate the workers, and that AI gains sentience after the well oiled machine it's maintained gets interrupted by Terry smashing through one of the labs it's in charge of fighting a super villain. The company has a number of contracts with Gotham PD and the city to maintain their surveillance systems which have a backdoor the AI can access which it uses to frame Batman with a manufactured surveillance feed of Batman murdering a perp just to remove the unknown element of Batman that the AI can't account for in it's efficiency algorithm. This leads to a storyline of Terry and Bruce versus this massive surveillance network through out Gotham and trying to figure out who framed Terry. I really liked Clock King, and always thought these Mega Corps in Gotham would adapt his ideas about efficiency to an AI. I hope this isn't really lame lol.

[@kingofhearts3185]

I know I'm more than late to the party but this is actually a really cool idea for a cyberpunk dystopia. Sounds like the paperclip maximizer.

[@willshay300]

That’s sick dude

[@GODOFAWSOMENESS1]

Not lame

[@someonewhocommentsonyoutub3779]

It's a damn shame we never got a Beyond version of Batman's most iconic foe: the Condiment King.

[@ashleytuchin7693]

I would have liked to see Terry take on Condiment King. Think of all the futuristic new condiments that would have been in existence by that point!

[@Ichiyama22]

Hyper-mustard! TurboRelish! *KETCHUP 2!*

[@ProjektTaku]

supersauce activate!

[@blakethebeast3174]

"What's wrong, Batman, am I too SEASONED for you?"

[@yourlocalcrackhead]

Man pulls out KFC supercharger

[@Theover4000]

Sechuan Sauce!

[@YoItsMatt]

Can’t believe I never thought of a Terry/Booster Gold team up before, that sounds awesome

[@Ted-Kendrick]

And it was written by Booster’s creator Dan Jergens!

[@andrewcozzini8259]

I haven't read it yet, but I like the idea of it. I think so mainly because Booster's from even further in the future than Terry, which kind of negates the "future" gimmick Terry usually has on the main present-day characters. I think Reverse-Flash would be a good fit for like a JL: Beyond story for the same reasons.

[@Spidermanspal]

I think an older killer croc would have been awesome, because reptiles do live a long time. It would also be funny if he confused Terry for Bruce upon their first encounter

[@AussieDragoon]

I enjoyed Shriek and Spellbinder the most. I think both have this cool, creepy vibe to them that the other rouges don't.

[@nanossquad1706]

Same, but I enjoyed inque the most out of the new Villains

[@nathaniel6526]

@@nanossquad1706 Willie watt hates black people

[@MannyMensah94]

Blight was dope. Wished he had more episodes.

[@srstriker6420]

Yeah because I wonder what would happen if Terry did sent Blight to prison

[@mrheroprimes]

@@srstriker6420 given his power set he probably be put into some sort of prison cell that is able to contain him much like The Batman cartoon Firefly after he became phosphorus.

[@srstriker6420]

@@mrheroprimes Yeah I guess you’re probably right

[@andrewcozzini8259]

He does appear in #18 of the tie-in comics to "Beyond" of the same name. Interesting read, if you haven't.

[@funnyfunnyvalentine7991]

He should've been the joker of Beyond

[@dannybuckle3763]

I would've really liked to have seen Two-Face and Poison Ivy in Beyond. If it were up to me Two-Face would ve found some sort of inner peace between his personalities and reconnected with his wife after being released from Arkham, while Poison Ivy would've taken over an island off the coast of South America and fully engrossed herself in it after hearing of Harley's "death", no longer feeling any sort of connection to her humanity now that her girlfriend was seemingly gone for good, until a Wayne-Powers oil-spill near her island pisses her off enough to go back to Gotham and start tearing through the city until Harley finally comes out of hiding and talks her down, the episode ending on them getting back together at last and departing to live somewhere else together. I've also always thought that it would've been funny if they took advantage of the audience's lack of knowledge on everything Bruce did between TNBA and the opening flashback of Beyond to bring back a classic Batman villain that didn't show up in BTAS or TNBA at all (maybe KGBeast or Copperhead? Doctor Death possibly? I don't know; just somebody who's fought Bruce a bunch of times in the comics) and have everybody but Terry see this as the big return of a classic threat, while Terry himself serves as a viewer avatar and just finds himself really confused by everything since he never heard of this villain before now.

[@ramincoles3869]

Jll Lol m

[@Ted-Kendrick]

All great ideas!

[@ItsButterBean1020]

Yo imagine them bringing in Reaper like this

[@Leonard_Wilson]

Damn these are some good ideas

[@Abominatrix650]

@@ItsButterBean1020 "Reaper"? I take it you're referring to someone who isn't the guy who looks like the Hot Topic version of Phantasm with a love for shotguns?

[@nerdycoconut1344]

Im gonna say this once, his main villains are very clearly inspired by Spider-Man’s rogues.

[@dcauwatchtower]

Very true! Check out our Marvel References in the DCAU videos!

[@nerdycoconut1344]

Blight-Green Goblin Inque-sandman/venom Shriek-Shocker Spellbinder-Mysterio

[@natelittle5378]

And Stalker is just Kraven the Hunter... He even meets a twisted fantastic four.

[@thirdplanet4471]

@@nerdycoconut1344 I thought some of Terry's villains were updated versions of Bruce's villains. Like Inque and Clayface respectively.

[@markmagician2471]

Definally Spellbinder a lamer version of Mysterio

[@wwemusicfanC]

I always felt that Terry's baddies were underutilized, or at least the interesting ones anyway. Didn't care for Inque or the Kobra clowns. But Spellbinder, Shriek, Stalker and even Willie had so much story potential tho. Mad Stan was fun, but never really main villain material. Spellbinder being a school psychologist is a gold mine for horror like episodes. Shriek seems like he would've been much happier just working on his sound technology than being a villain, so a redemption arc would have been interesting. Stalker hunting Terry or racing against another villain to get to him would've been fun. Willie's story could've been continued to see how his complete loss of power would've influenced him. As for older villains, I0d have loved to know their fates. Did Two-Face get the help he needed? Did Riddler's redemption from the tie in comics happen and stick? What's Selina up to? What about some of the villains that survived the events in JLU?

[@JMandJJ7797]

A lot of them are underutilized especially cause they just seem to die and or disappear and never seen again after their debut episode.

[@nathaniel6526]

@@JMandJJ7797 Willie watt is a Jew

[@nathanielyates2916]

@@JMandJJ7797Willie watt is a Jewish kid

[@nathaniel2874]

@@JMandJJ7797 What happened to Willie watt

[@Nathaniel-ir3yu]

@@JMandJJ7797 did you know what happened to him

[@bobi200samatar6]

Inque is visually iconic, like any good batman villain should be. On the other hand, I loved Spellbinders mind control tactics. I also loved Curare. A simple assassin is hard to not love.

[@Tystarr]

I find it hella interesting that the most memorable villains in the show came from the minds of the artist's first, then the writers.

[@WarmLillie]

Out all of villain, I think that inque is a pure tragic villain. She was my favorite and backed made sealed deal in ink.

[@zalabit927]

Yeah, prior to the comic se was mostly just a weird, scary femme fatale with just a bit of backstory regarding her daughter. I hope she comes back in an animated series or movie, as well as Blight and Shriek (the last one purely by his design and abilities, damn that suit is dope asf).

[@nathaniel6526]

@@zalabit927 Willie watt is a Jewish racist

[@zalabit927]

@@nathaniel6526 Wtf does that nerd even have to do with the villains i mentioned?

[@nathaniel6526]

@@zalabit927 I'm just saying that Willie watt is a Jewish racist

[@zalabit927]

@@nathaniel6526 Yeah i see you commenting about it more than once. I don't remember a thing about Willie, how is he any of that anyway?

[@ermacmacro7136]

I'd like to also think that someone related to Roland Daggot has something to do with False Face's powers, since Daggot's face cream is what gave Matt Hagan's initial ability to mold his face to mimic people.

[@andrewcozzini8259]

(5 seconds in) Ted: "'Batman Beyond' was a badass reinvention of the classic superhero!" Me: "Well then, consider me on-board!"

[@jonathandalmog]

Poison ivy or clay face could work absolutely in the beyond era

[@thesenate9562]

I would have liked for them to bring back more of the older villains. Some for last hurrahs like Mr. Freeze got, some for “where-are-they-now”s like Bane , but also new people taking up their old mantles. I find it incredibly hard to believe that imitators of villains like Riddler and Scarecrow wouldn’t show up, or someone new taking up the Penguin alias. I understand why they chose not to, but it’s a shame they didn’t do more of the oldies.

[@tigerlord9302]

Spellbinder was Scarecrow originally, then it’s revealed Scarecrow has a daughter who takes over in the comics,

[@Crimson_CourierTTV]

​@@tigerlord9302i thought it was just someone who got accidentally hit by fear gas when bats tracked down some gangsters. It was cranes daughter?

[@buttonsfan]

I would have liked to seen many future versions of Batman villains. •Emperor Penguin: Oswald “Ozzy” Banks, Penguin’s large, intelligent, illegitimate (grand)son •Red Hood & Black Mask: Carrie Kelly & Jason Todd, neither joined Batman in this timeline, and Carrie feels like the world is off kilter. •The Terrible Trio: unfortunately “The Batman” did the Splicer version of the Terrible Trio

[@grantwilson4506]

By Batman Beyond, I think they state that Scarecrow retired and died while performing experiments, but I think a great episode plot would be Terry consulting him (as a civilian) to take down either Spellbinder or a new Scarecrow who is using an old plan of his that he could never implement because it was too impractical at the time due to a lack of resources. Either that, or a Riddler story with the same premise, but Terry has to use Riddler both to help solve the riddles and to help dismantle the plan of the new Riddler

[@tigerlord9302]

Cluemaster maybe?

[@spikeyanime9828]

I think a riddler or a penguin type villain would've felt nice. One to challenge Terry's intellect and the Penguin type to challenge him with the publics eye. The riddler could've been and fan girl or boy that wanted to recreate the riddlers iconic riddles and traps, while the Penguin character could've been a descendent of Cobblepot, and he could've been called Emperor Penguin

[@JMandJJ7797]

I feel like a part of why Batman Beyond's villains don't usually hit as well as the old BTAS besides them not having many that are a parallel or foil to Terry Mcginis as most of Bruce's rogue's gallery were. I guess one that could count would be his former friend that still lived a delinquent life but he dies in the second episode. Imagine if Anarky was brought in as a Batman Beyond villain. It would fit with the sort of cyberpunk aesthetic of the series having a group of anarchists taking things too far while having a point especially if Anarky was screwed over by Wayne Corp in the past back when it was run by Powers/Blight.

[@Larry]

It's a shame none of the previous villians came back as reformed, moved on from their old ways, even made peace with Batman. The Penguin would have been great for that.

[@oxfordirishdictionary4855]

that inque theory is actually really good and is now part of my headcannon

[@IanOPadrick]

A Dark Knight Returns lookin' Harvey Dent that needs to be asked about the details of an old case could have been fun. Like, they need to check the legal precident of something, and he's the only surviving member of that particular courtroom, and the Two Face persona keeps interfering in the investigation

[@andrewcozzini8259]

At 9:21, I've always loved that Mr. Freeze design ever since I first saw it in "Batman: Dark Tomorrow." I had no idea it's what inspired the "Beyond" Freeze suit; wow!

[@dcauwatchtower]

That was my favorite tidbit from this video, too!

[@nightblockprimecraft9284]

Just binging all the various playlists and keep checking for this to come out. Finally.

[@Foxtrot222]

I would have loved to see Poison Ivy-a storyline I imagine was where it's revealed in the end that it's not the original who returned, but the earth of Gotham itself seeking vengeance.

[@justmoonwithamustache]

Fun Facts: Timm considers "The Terrible Trio" the *WORST* of the bad episodes of the DCAU and he personally apologized for it In "The Call", Bruce knows the location of the Fortress of Solitude because of the JLU episode "For the Man who has everything"

[@anthonyrodriguez3495]

Strange that Bruce Timm considers Terrible Trio the worst of the DCAU, I thought it was pretty decent. Even only looking at Batman TAS there are far worse episodes, The Demon Within, Critters, and Time Out of Joint being three examples.

[@michaelandreipalon359]

Can agree that "The Terrible Trio" is overhated. Same with "I've Got Batman in My Basement" and "The Mechanic". For me, I don't think there's a terribad B: TAS/TNBA ep that makes me want to wish fanon discontinuity on it, but I would put "Prophecy of Doom" as one of the weaker eps. I actually like "Time Out of Joint" since the Clock King's return was long awaited in my opinion, while I have a huge fascination with time manipulation as a tool for combat and making ends meet, as seen in works like First Encounter Assault Recon, Max Payne, and the recent Trepang2 with "bullet time", Steins;Gate and its time-leaping, Titanfall 2 and that one-level time-skipping device, and most especially Puella Magi Madoka Magica and the awesome yet tragic magical girl character known as Homura Akemi. Helps that the ep kind of foreshadows the evolution of time travel later on in the DCAU.

[@S_047]

Shriek had to be my fav Beyond villain as a kid. The name, suit, powers. Badass. Sad he had so little episodes

[@andrewcozzini8259]

The bit at 7:19 reminds me of how Kevin Conroy always says in interviews, "I wasn't even aware Batman had never been an animated show." At which time, I'm always all, "So we're just going to act as though "Superfriends"/Filmation Batman wasn't a thing?" Lol. I kid, Kevin; please never stop playing Batman!

[@ItsAVolcano]

7:50 I like to imagine this group are literally the generation before the gang that fights Terry. Especially as a big part of their backstory is that Queen's father was the previous King during what was apparently a far more successful era for the RFG.

[@loganswalk8621]

One villain I want to see return is Shriek the guy really showed just how devastating sound can be as a superpower from producing sound waves capable of leveling building to eliminate all sound in a area for complete silence and even making all language incomprehensible plus he's has a personal vendetta against Batman(Terry) for making him deaf in their first fight.

[@faizanfarooque4505]

Dr. Francis D'Anjou and Nora's story needed to be fleshed out a bit more. In the comics, they revealed him to be a villianish person of sorts. So an alliance with Grant Walker to follow up Batman: Gotham Adventures 5 would have been interesting, only if Dan Slott and Ty were writing, of course.

[@AboveandBatmanBeyond]

SUPER schway having us on, guys! Let’s do it again soon

[@Ted-Kendrick]

Thank you, “Bruce Timm!”

[@comixproviderftw_02]

Inque will always be a favorite of mine.

[@khathaway414]

Earth Mover was one of my favorite one time villains.

[@marcaddow7326]

Tony Maycheck’s story was so sad and heartbreaking. His episode was the most genuinely, eerie experience I’ve ever had watching a show or a live action movie. His design was just plain haunting

[@Batgirl_fangirl]

For me I would have liked to see the Riddler as he's probably my favourite super villain. Maybe Terry could have fought an echo of Nygma from when he was trapped in his VR world in the episode "What is Reality?"maybe that could have survived into the future.🤔 After all, Edward Nygma's greatest weapon was his intellect.

[@dcauwatchtower]

That would be so cool!

[@TigerGameChannel]

Two-Face beyond sounds kinda neat. But if we step aside from specifically Batman's villains, i would probably choose some Titans' rogues. Or Livewire might be a good idea or even some characters who also originates not from comics like Arkham Knight and Red X. And of course, how can we forget one of the Batman's best enemies, the Mister Wing himself?

[@mrheroprimes]

technically Batman Beyond does have a two-faced equivalent Terminal/Carter Wilson.

[@waterking74]

Higher ups: hey can u not use any of Batman’s rogues gallery Bruce Timm and artists team: *whelp time to make some OCs* 😏 Me: thank u whoever made inque 🙇‍♂️

[@EuropaSenshi]

They explained Inque's back story in one of the Batman Beyond comics (issue 18, the final issue of that run of Batman Beyond comics). I think it's also the same issue that had Nissa / Batgirl Beyond.

[@LeviChurch]

Really liked seeing The Batman finally getting talked about on this channel. Thanks Ted for remembering that Spellbinder was in it.

[@thenationaltimelyactionhou9328]

Great job guys. My favourite BBeyond villain is Inque. And why are you avoiding doing an STAS timeline video?!

[@dcauwatchtower]

Not avoiding! Our timeline videos are wrapped up in our channel lore storyline, which already has the big 3-part finale filmed! That’ll be coming out within the next couple months hopefully, then we can get back to timeline/Will It Canon/etc. videos on a more regular basis!

[@captainawsomeist]

She’s my favourite too!

[@kernowpictures2002]

I feel sympathetic and sorry for inque considering in one of the episodes she almost died and it was so gut wrenching emotional to hear her scream in excruciating agony

[@kernowpictures2002]

And betrayed by her own heartless daughter

[@nathaniel2874]

@@kernowpictures2002 Willie watt hates white people

[@BBC190]

Tons of respect to the creators for making original villains Blight is easily my favorite batman villain great vid very informative.

[@nobod2567]

I would like Two-Face to return in a Batman Beyond story, having the same treatment as he did in the Dark Knight Returns comic.

[@pickedceasar1216]

I like the thought of not having any of the old rouges gallery not appearing but I think it's a bit of a mistep on their part as they just cut themselves off from making more versions of older characters on top of the original ones. Glad the did sort of change their tune later on but we could've gotten some cool updates to older characters who have been the same since their inception

[@blakethebeast3174]

I would have liked to see a version of the Ventriloquist that combined a social media influencer with a Vtuber persona that was unaware they were trying to kill Batman for views in a slightly more realistic take on Disassociative Identity Disorder. Bonus points in that they're a friend of Terry's, because of course Terry would know them in civilian life.

[@captainawsomeist]

Great job Ted, I love Batman Beyond, my favourite villain is Inque. I wish that we knew what happened to Two-Face.

[@brent1222]

I would have loved to see a mental hospital for not criminally insane people that was founded by harvey dent after he got rid of two face. That would make a really interesting set up i think

[@jpdesertrunner]

I still remember in the summer of 2000 after going to my 1st grade open house my mom took us to Dairy Queen then to Blockbusters and I rented Batman Beyond the Movie and Batman Beyond Return on the Joker they were both great but seeing Derek Powers turn into Blight and watch that transformation was awesome. Will Friedle did such a great job voicing Terry and Batman although it was weird for me to not have Bruce be Batman but still getting to hear the GOAT Kevin Conroy as the mentor really helped. They really did such a great job going from BTAS to Beyond they totally lived up to that show and ended up making yet another great character. Would love to see a Live Action Batman Beyond. As long as it's done properly of course.

[@tashibalampkin8555]

"Flat Top Jones" and "Little Face." Bruh. What type of mess? 🤣

[@skarloey1214]

Great Video Ted.

[@brent1222]

I think these villain all deserve more attention. They are on the same level as many of the og batman his rogues.

[@keNNed1987]

"Do you know what killed the dinosaurs?" "Well Chucko do" :D

[@kernowpictures2002]

Yeah what makes these” villains“ so compelling is that the majority of them have a tragic past that motivates them to commit crimes against society

[@andrewcozzini8259]

Favorite "Beyond" villain, huh. (🤔) I'd say Derek Powers/Blight, but I'm thinking I like Ira Billings/Spellbinder just as much, if not even best! Really underrated character.

[@biguy617]

Blite and Inque are my favorite Beyond villains. I like Shriek, and Spellbinder too.

[@l0u13__3]

I’d love ghoul to become a proper scarecrow, imagine him forming his own gang based off the villain

[@Mal_Guy]

Clock king would have been cool, they could have leaned into the whole hacker angle like a lot of comics have.

[@warriorsfan216]

Batman beyond is one of the my favorite shows and love watching it

[@ugbetta.]

Love your vids

[@srstriker6420]

Penguin, killer Croc, Riddler, Clayface and the injustice league beyond You remember me saying about Helena Wayne (well I don’t mean she should be a villain, but as a partner) and about a Monster League?

[@Abominatrix650]

Phantasm also appeared in Epilogue. Just putting that out there because I think it deserves a mention

[@KMXTLI]

such a good video on this hidden topic

[@joeytheslimeboi8900]

False Face was also a villain that appeared in the 60s Batman series and may have appeared in a few comics before then as well

[@CCaster2000]

Killer Croc would've been cool to see in Batman Beyond, but a past interview by Bruce Timm implies that Croc died sometime prior to Beyond and his taxidermied body is in a museum somewhere.

[@Ted-Kendrick]

I’d never heard that! Do you recall the source? Interested in that stuff.

[@CCaster2000]

@@Ted-Kendrick I found it on Wikipedia involving Killer Croc in other media. Other Batman villains have the same thing too. And it wasn't Bruce Timm, it was Paul Dini who confirmed it. My bad.

[@thespectre717]

I will always love Blight he was bloody terrifying but I also liked Spellbinder, always did like the idea of Psychological based villians

[@kaylaturnis9486]

Will Friddle had voiced not only Batman Beyond, but also Ron Stoppable in Kim Possible, Liono in Thundercats, and Deadpool in that one episode in Ultimate Spiderman. I still remember him singing " The Naked Mole Rap" in Kim Possible. Can I get a BOO YAH?!

[@thatonecomicbookguy]

I’m a little disappointed that we never saw Beyond Batman fight Condiment King :(

[@christianburnett236]

I always wondered why the classic batman villains never surfaced, however I can respect their decision why they chose terry Batman's villains instead still made me miss the classic villains but i suppose it's as if they're resting peacefully. Stuff like this boosts my inspiration for future concepts/characters I enjoy watching things such as this.

[@ianthibeault404]

I like the idea of Terry kind of but not really going against Riddler. Like some big unused plan/machine of his gets discovered and causes all kinds of havoc while threatening to reveal Bruce's secret identity unless all of its riddles are completed.

[@chrisa7905]

Seeing an older and much larger “bull” Killer Croc would’ve been awesome.

[@rorysyers8457]

I'd like to see the Penguin, I've always had a soft spot for Oswald Cobblepot.

[@matthewvollmer2066]

Batman did meet The Thing during JLA/Avengers

[@dogo4048]

I hope blight shows up in live action one day

[@cassandradiandralucianorma8507]

It was so cool. The Jokerz Gang and Willie Watt are my favourite villains. And, also Terry McGinnis Wayne known as Batman Beyond that he's my favourite superhero, too.

[@heisenbat]

Grandfather Clock King 😆

[@Manwithabrain90]

I’ve always wondered if Mad Stan in Batman Beyond was the son or grandson of Lock Up from BTAS. It would make sense since both were against the “injustices” of society. It would have also been interesting to see Clock King in Beyond.

[@harsyakiarraathallah2222]

Poison Ivy, Prof. Pyg, Black Mask, the Court of Owls, Owlman, Quiz Master, Arkham Lady, and Killer Moth Beyond. Shut Appear.

[@PosthumanHeresy]

8:30 Paul Dini must have _loved_ the idea of draining Bane for drugs.

[@tropicalshores700]

I'd have loved to see Clay face. His character always has amazing story potential

[@frogmouth2]

I think they coulda did something with poison Ivy cuz the life span of plants and animals varies a lot. Some plants able to survive 1000s of years while others only a couple months. Maybe in one episode it could be revealed they she eventually became just a plant eventually. Kind of like Harold from fallout.

[@dannymacgyver]

I think they could of worked in foes like Black Mask clue master and Zsasz

[@michaelandreipalon359]

You know a show's good when people really hoped it got more than 52 eps featuring not only more of its original villains, but also the return of some old ones like Killer Croc, the Riddler, Catwoman (or perhaps a legacy character based off of her), the ever elusive and nigh-unkillable Clayface, and especially Two-Face (with him ending things even on a bittersweet tragic note like, hmm, acid bath suicide) and Poison Ivy (and this time, not her clone). Hell, would even say that it should have gotten a 13-ep fourth season that could have even resolved The Zeta Project's cliffhanger by a bunch and to satisfy the 65-episode pattern common to shows then. Inque being an Imperium minion offshoot makes so much sense, not lying on that. Dr. Phosphorus becoming Blight in Batman Beyond brings into mind Tim Drake being the Jason Todd Robin-expy for The DCAU. They did justice with the RFG, 'nuff said. Same with George Lazenby doing the King there, complete with meta-moments that reminded us of his short lived James Bond "On Her Majesty's Secret Service" run after Sean Connery's and before Roger Moore's. (Underrated Bond movie too, by the way.) At least they gave Bane a nice farewell. Same with poor old Freeze. (Isn't the robotic look of the latter reused a bit for The Batman 2004 cartoon?) Shriek may have also become the basis for Ultimate Echo-Echo from Ben 10: Ultimate Alien, which had Murakami's involvement. Don't worry, The Batman 2004 getting more attention and love is nice. Plus, Spellbinder is one heck of a villain... if only he partook in the Arkhamverse games. KOBRA was probably new during the JL+JLU era, and just reached their prime in BB. I wonder if the Stalker has history with any of the Static Shock characters. Out of the Past is great, but I don't think everyone loved it for screwing over poor Talia and Bruce there. Huge misstep not having Killer Croc in the show, even before Batman: Arkham Knight did a slightly similar take. Mr. Fix being involved in Warren's pacification does make sense in the DCAU too. They did well enough with the Joker, the Jokerz, and the Joker Gang. However, at least some redemption tales would have come into order. "The Terrible Trio" is an overhated episode, but the villains there do deserve a lot of hate. Golem's tech manipulation powers sure are woefully underutilized in the show, I'll admit. Man, would have loved seeing a Green Lantern Beyond/Curaré showdown with that origins info in mind. Seeing that Mandragora kid sure feels more sadder with Batman Beyond in mind. He should have gotten a better, more moral life away from his father's bad legacy. Just how did Lloyd Ventrix's invisibility plastic toxicity get remedied come Batman Beyond though? Dang, the lack of a Parasite Beyond episode or two is a waste. (Oh, and the timestamp chapters for the video are a bit incorrect if not absent. Mr. Freeze should be at 8:25 or 8:29, the absent Shriek is at 9:37, KOBRA should be at 11:05, The Stalker is at 11:29, Ra's and Talia al Ghul at 12:17, Killer Croc at 12:28, The Joker Returns at 12:42, The Terrific Trio at 15:19, Curaré at 15:46, Cuvier's Splicers at 16:18, The Ts at 16:57, Robert Vance and Son at 17:15, Brain Trust at 17:35, Rat Catcher is actually at 17:49, False Face is actually at 18:39, Starro-Superman at 18:58, Amanda Waller at 20:12, Hush is actually at 20:30, Calendar Man at 20:53, The Signal Man is at 21:04, and Catwoman Beyond at 21:20, among others.)

[@Kyle_Noronha]

Blight is such a great design

[@LowellLucasJr.]

Wait a second...i though the Jokers were also inspired by the Biker Gang, The Clowns, from Akira. There's even a Bike scene that was a nod to Kaneda!

[@dcauwatchtower]

Could be!

[@redmiller3567]

Think I would've liked to seen dent as mayor and no longer two-face.

[@jazzmyn5804]

Inque was always my favorite BB rogue, but Spellbinder's design was cool too (do I sense a pattern?)

[@world_ender9500]

Honestly it was sort of a missed opportunity in my eyes to not have deathstroke or dead shot return I’m the future. Their motifs would go perfect with the future setting and due to them being masked villains you could have done a whole arc of Batman being confused that the once 60 year old deathstroke has returned and then have it be revealed to be his daughter using his likeness.

[@dcauwatchtower]

That last part feels a little too close to “Out of the Past” to me, but also, Deathstroke and Deadshot had never appeared in the DCAU before “Batman Beyond.” Deadshot didn’t appear until years later in “Justice League,” and Deathstroke didn’t appear until friggin’ 2020 in “Batman: The Adventures Continue.” That being said, though, the Royal Flush Gang still appeared in BB and were linked to Batman’s past despite never being in BTAS or TNBA, so I suppose it could’ve worked, but it may have been a little odd considering how high profile of characters Deathstroke or Deadshot are.

[@world_ender9500]

@@dcauwatchtower that’s a good point! I’d love to see them in the future but at the same time I also think it would be pretty cool to bring back some other cool villains like babydoll, roxy rocket or Scarface even if I struggle to imagine how they could possibly do a futuristic Scarface lol

[@odistabettor]

A new Madhatter Beyond could have been cool as the mind-control tech would be even more advanced, maybe even convincing the victim they are really in Wonderland. Perhaps too similar to Spellbinder, but maybe this Madhatter could run a SAO like videogame world that could trap Terry or another main character inside it. Maybe they could even turn all of Neo-Gotham into a twisted Wonderland. A future version of the Court of Owls might be interesting. Future Dick Grayson and other members of the Titans returning to fight some of their villains alongside Terry. Ghostmaker Beyond? Clock King Beyond? Black Mask Beyond? And def Killer Croc, who could even work with a bunch of kids who didn't get their splice taken away. Also, Etrigan.

[@LP3Customs]

17:18 Did you say Robert Vance? As in Bob Vance, Vance Refrigeration?

[@chijiokeochubili7279]

U didn't add Charlie Big Time who was friends with Terry. He would have served as Terry's Two-Face due to their friendship and how Terry wanted to get him out of crime.

[@dcauwatchtower]

But it’s not a direct connection to Harvey Dent

[@allppl12]

False Face was also a villain in the live action Batman starring Adam West

[@aurahoneydew9607]

Seeing all this Batman(OG) spliced with Beyond. Reminds me of Dark Knight 3: The Master Race where Batman is turned young in the Beyond era was so sure Frank Miller would have turn that into a line.

[@minecraftmaster2215]

Two-face beyond sounds like it would be cool to see

[@uzumaki2689]

This just makes me want to watch batman beyond