The DCAU Would Be a LOT Different if This BATMAN Comic Happened (Batman Adventures Vol 2)

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The Batman Adventures Volume 2 comic series was cancelled DOZENS of issues prematurely. Find out about all the stories we could have seen...including some pretty shocking revelations.
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@dcauwatchtower
@dcauwatchtower 3 жыл бұрын
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@bi-product
@bi-product 3 жыл бұрын
Eye emoji
@HunterX05
@HunterX05 3 жыл бұрын
@@bi-product 👁
@craftonblair7052
@craftonblair7052 3 жыл бұрын
Do u think these stories still happen in the DCAU continuity just offscreen or well off panel?
@ashtonsheppard3128
@ashtonsheppard3128 Жыл бұрын
Nooiiccee
@jacearmor5274
@jacearmor5274 8 ай бұрын
😊😊
@PosthumanHeresy
@PosthumanHeresy 3 жыл бұрын
I think I just understood something about Batman I didn't get before. When Batman says he's "busy" when you're asking for his help with a massive issue that seems way more important than whatever serial killer he's dealing with this week, it's because he has complete faith you're going to deal with that without him while he's where he's needed most, even if you aren't that confident in yourself. Batman's massive confidence extends to anyone he respects as an equal or at least respectable colleague, so long as they're staying in their lane.
@raymondfisheriii791
@raymondfisheriii791 Жыл бұрын
In other words, Batman saying “he’s busy” is less him saying “do it yourself”, and more him saying “bro, you’ve got this” unless he was outright saying “no, do that on your own. I don’t agree with it”
@YQxTHExGREAT
@YQxTHExGREAT 9 ай бұрын
I mean that’s pretty fire and would add so much more to his character, but I think you thinkin to deep into it bro 😂😂😂 Still fire theory tho
@dannybuckle3763
@dannybuckle3763 3 жыл бұрын
...So we're all in agreement that Nightwing's still leading the Outsiders offscreen in the DCAU even if it didn't make it into print, right? Like, it makes total sense for the character and there's nothing to contradict it so why *not* make it canon?
@maxalaintwo3578
@maxalaintwo3578 3 жыл бұрын
Sure
@altoidconor2928
@altoidconor2928 3 жыл бұрын
Works for me!
@freddyjosereginomontalvo4667
@freddyjosereginomontalvo4667 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely works. I mean with the inclusion of ARGUS, the others green lanterns and more to the DCAU in JL vs Fatal Five. I think that the expansion of the universe makes total sense. In fact besides the titans I believe that sorf of birds of pray, Gotham city sirens, justice league dark, justice league of America exist in this universe. Just that like the titans we never see them.
@fromolwyoming
@fromolwyoming 3 жыл бұрын
"Bruce in a relationship with Babs." No. "But, the develop-!" I said no. That "relationship" needs to get nuked to hell and stay there.
@jsb6975.ah.crapbaskets
@jsb6975.ah.crapbaskets 3 жыл бұрын
In the immortal words of Tarkin: "You may fire when ready."
@cartoonishidealism582
@cartoonishidealism582 3 жыл бұрын
No idea why this relationship keeps coming up in stuff. It’s never NOT weird.
@ericnids1710
@ericnids1710 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you came here to say that.
@ryanleite8497
@ryanleite8497 3 жыл бұрын
Coward
@emeraldcoastarcher
@emeraldcoastarcher 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed! This stuff is just wrong on too damn many levels.
@Nightman221k
@Nightman221k 3 жыл бұрын
The DC strict character embargo's did so much damage to the creativity across multiple shows. I remember watching the shows and reading the tie-in comics when it was going on and it was a mess; and it's STILL complicated to explain to my buddy who was unaware of it because he'd ask, "Yeah, but why would they do that? It's still WB and DC. THEY OWN THE CHARACTERS!!!" and all I can say is, "I KNOW, but I guess they think the audience is too dumb to see more than one superhero show, both with Batman, and yet the villains are off limits." I still think the embargo complicated things for the worse. Teen Titans couldn't use Wonder Girl, JLU couldn't use Bat-villains, The Batman for a while wasn't allowed to use Robin (due to Teen Titans) and instead introduced Batgirl first (not a bad move, but I remember it making people scratch their heads), and IIRC Aquaman villains weren't able to be used in JLU because the failed Aquaman (Smallville spinoff) pilot that the WB network wanted to do.
@dcauwatchtower
@dcauwatchtower 3 жыл бұрын
Not Aquaman himself after a while!
@Nightman221k
@Nightman221k 3 жыл бұрын
@@dcauwatchtower It's so weird that they used to think that. Funny enough, currently embargos seem to be a thing of the past. It still makes me laugh how the HBO Max Harley Quinn's not exactly kid friendly, while DC Superhero Girls' Harley is kid-friendly and childlike. I wouldn't want either show to remove Harley, but it seems like a bigger dissonance for kids who get into the DC Superhero Girls cartoons, think of Harley as their favorite character, and assume her personality would be similar in a cartoon show that's all about her.
@Nightman221k
@Nightman221k 3 жыл бұрын
@Will N I actually agree with you about the Bat-villains. I feel like one minor complaint I have about the DCAU is that Batman often has the spotlight in JL/JLU because the creative team just thought he was more cool than the other characters. I like Batman too, but you're right if his villains showed up it would have definitely overshadowed the badguys in the last season. I do feel like the biggest loss was not getting to see the birds of prey as it was conceptualized and maybe Robin, Batgirl, and Nightwing showing up just to be part of the league.
@thebunkerparodie6368
@thebunkerparodie6368 3 жыл бұрын
@@Nightman221k also was shown to be a sympathetic villain in batman TAS with her being able to reform in harley holiday (and didn't seem to want to go back to crime in lock up) ,but then for some reason the writter decided to tie her to a statu quo with either being with ivy or joker after batman TAS and they stopped making harley willing to reform when to me a reform DCAU harley could have been interesting to see (+I feel like making harley go worst without explaining the how and why is somewhat lazy character development and they never explained why did harley go back to crime with ivy in holiday knight). Also I don't think it's a problem to ahve multiple interpretaiton of a character (although I must say that I like harley more when she's a sympathetic villain than a as bad as joker villain)
@Nightman221k
@Nightman221k 3 жыл бұрын
@@thebunkerparodie6368 Me too, 100%. I like the BTAS Harley but Timm and Dini kind of ruined any of her early appearances for me when they had her help the Joker break Robin's mind. It makes her heartfelt, "Nice guy's like you shouldn't have bad days," look pretty damn pointless when she would later destroy all that Batman held dear when mindbreaking Tim destroyed what was left of his family and support system and scarred his son mentally for years. He gave her compassion and she helped Joker ruined his life and we get nothing to imply she gave it a second thought. Personally, I think Harley of BTAS becoming an ally to Batman would have been a perfect full circle for her character, since having her be a domestic abuse victim should be a *cautionary tale*; rather than just her default status quo which is how she was made to be in BTAS/TNBA. When you look at Mad Love's ending and how it romanticizes Harley's mental condition at the last minute with her instantly forgiving the Joker like it's just status quo for her and she likes it, is probably why edgy teens idealize the Harley/Joker "romance." I for one love that modern Harley has become independent and has grown. I'd prefer her to be an anti-hero like Catwoman more than a full on villain TBH though.
@stw3art14
@stw3art14 3 жыл бұрын
The Phantasm and Blight are some of the coolest DCAU characters design-wise
@kerfuffled7066
@kerfuffled7066 3 жыл бұрын
Fax
@aurahoneydew9607
@aurahoneydew9607 3 жыл бұрын
I challenge! that with the Wonder Woman design it's everything wonder woman should be with flinching it wears costumes look the the stars spangled bikini with pride and who could forget Superman's Beyond look
@awhochen1563
@awhochen1563 3 жыл бұрын
@@aurahoneydew9607 Objective word being SOME.
@awhochen1563
@awhochen1563 3 жыл бұрын
They have some *great* names as well.
@aurahoneydew9607
@aurahoneydew9607 3 жыл бұрын
@@awhochen1563 oh my challenge was that those were the coolest designs not that they weren't. In hindsight should have been more clear on the matter
@Jack-sy8mr
@Jack-sy8mr 3 жыл бұрын
Red Hood wasn’t Hush lol? Maybe...the friends we made along the way was the real Hush lol?
@tracebaker
@tracebaker 3 жыл бұрын
I guess we'll never know who the real Hush is... lol
@walkerspectre
@walkerspectre 3 жыл бұрын
"lol"
@jonathanwarrdddedcxddeecec4787
@jonathanwarrdddedcxddeecec4787 2 жыл бұрын
Wasn’t hush just some dude who turned out not to be super important ?
@DarthArachnious
@DarthArachnious 3 жыл бұрын
I always liked the idea that Lois was Bruce's best friend. They only saw each other occasionally for a few minutes at a time. But she knew who he was, who he really was and treated him like one of the army guys she grew up around. But she wasn't romantically interested in him, because she would never be as important as his crusade.
@srstriker6420
@srstriker6420 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah because that was pretty forced
@Nightman221k
@Nightman221k 3 жыл бұрын
Personally, I would like that. Lois was a very enjoyable character in the DCAU but I feel like they didn't utilize Lois's presence as well as I'd have liked. She fell by the wayside after STAS and I was kind of dying to know if or when Lois would have ended up with Clark.
@Champsr0ck2247
@Champsr0ck2247 Жыл бұрын
This would have been a fun dynamic if anything. Maybe not best of friends but definitely a confidant.
@LakinMae5
@LakinMae5 9 ай бұрын
They both have to deal with Clark’s/Superman’s shit on an occasion so they understand keeping their favorite Boy Scout in check.
@HunterX05
@HunterX05 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, Batman was REALLY busy
@maxalaintwo3578
@maxalaintwo3578 3 жыл бұрын
No wonder Batman was so dismissive and would only say "he's busy" to Hawkgirl. His whole life was changing forever
@KrisPNatz
@KrisPNatz 3 жыл бұрын
“He had every opportunity to fix the framing” IM SCREAMINGGGG LMFAOOOOOOOOOOO
@frogmouth2
@frogmouth2 3 жыл бұрын
3:16 I like how awkwardly the zeta project is shoved into the shot
@comixproviderftw_02
@comixproviderftw_02 3 жыл бұрын
Nightwing and The Outsiders, that would've been good in this series.
@Marsh388
@Marsh388 3 жыл бұрын
The Bat Embargo’s reasoning was dumb enough when concerning TV and animation... it gets dumber when concerning comic tie ins. They sure weren’t planning to cancel the main Batman comics due to the possibility of readers getting confused that there were multiple Batman comics on the shelves...
@theleonpasta7336
@theleonpasta7336 2 жыл бұрын
Not to mention around the same time they made The Batman, which in its final seasons even has its own Justice League! How would that not be confusing to kids watching TV back then?
@Nightman221k
@Nightman221k 3 жыл бұрын
I know that Dan Slott said that Red Hood would be Andrea's mother... but I still feel like thematically it would be so much more exciting were it Andrea's father since he was shown to be murdered in Phantasm... BUT we never actually see the body just Andrea's horrified scream and she recounts the information that he was killed. If he were left nearly dead or brain-damaged and Andrea forged an alliance with Ra's to use a Lazarus pit to revive him I feel like it would make more sense than having Andi's mother whose grave she was talking to earnestly (I feel like her doing it and genuinely forming the bond with Bruce was thematically important). His death being confirmed only by Andi, who was covering it up pretending he was alive, makes him faking his death or never having died seem like a twist that would have felt in line with the Phantasm movie.
@srstriker6420
@srstriker6420 3 жыл бұрын
This is pretty weird
@danh9083
@danh9083 Жыл бұрын
This Victoria Beaumont arc would have been insane.
@Gokitalo
@Gokitalo 3 жыл бұрын
I gotta correct you on something at 8m12s, though, Mattie-- the writer of Batman Adventures #17 was not Dan Slott, but Ty "The Guy" Templeton himself. I always thought it was fitting Ty close out that volume (and era) of the Batman Adventures, given how synonymous he'd become with the various incarnations of the series. Regardless, though, great vid! Comic Book Legends Revealed had divulged the Red Hood’s identity back in the day, but I always avoided reading it, just in case Ty and Dan ever got the chance to finish the story somehow. Seeing the WDb finally cover the topic made me realize it was time to peek, and it did not disappoint! Loved the info for all the other arcs/stories, too; I was a big fan of this series and it did me good to finally see what could have been. So many, many thanks!
@YoItsMatt
@YoItsMatt 3 жыл бұрын
The lengths that y’all go to to make sure videos are contextually open enough that someone who’s never seen your content or even the DCAU can understand it all, /AND/ not have it be redundant while providing said context, is genuinely impressive and forever appreciated. You’re all extremely good at pacing your videos, like I normally never even touch stuff past 30 minutes on other channels, but the focus and the editing is just... *chefs kiss* MWAH
@dcauwatchtower
@dcauwatchtower 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! We try!
@andrewcai5042
@andrewcai5042 3 жыл бұрын
My depression really hurt today, watching your video made me feel better faster: so my point that I am tying to convey is keep up the great work! : )
@dcauwatchtower
@dcauwatchtower 3 жыл бұрын
You got this, Andrew!
@andrewcai5042
@andrewcai5042 3 жыл бұрын
@@dcauwatchtower I found that I am fond of nearly every Green Lantern, they can hang on no matter what and withstand breaking points. The fact is I don't have influential control of external pressures while family/others need me to take on their burdens adding to my own. My problems meant I could barely function day to day, until I successfully solve theirs I feel like I'm constantly drowning. Already exhausted all cooperative means, now must somehow contend with extensive red tape and well meaning defeatism. To my detriment I cannot put myself over others nor ignore their cries for assistance.
@jturner2577
@jturner2577 3 жыл бұрын
6:15 And conventional Wisdom was of course completely wrong.
@GamerSlyRatchet1
@GamerSlyRatchet1 3 жыл бұрын
We could've gotten Nightwing leading the Outsiders? That would've been cool to explore. I know the obvious is to think about Young Justice (even though he never led any actual Outsiders team there), but I also thought about how Beware the Batman assembled its actual Outsiders team before the series got cancelled.
@elhabto
@elhabto 3 жыл бұрын
8:56 This is by far the best look for Matches Malone I've ever seen. I mean LOOK AT THAT JAMES LIKE MUSTACHE
@aurahoneydew9607
@aurahoneydew9607 3 жыл бұрын
Ah the Bat-embargo the root of evil! Seriously what kind of thinking was that they run books like Superman and Action comics and Batman and Detective Comics and suddenly it's like plurars oh no people can't handle that
@achannel8300
@achannel8300 3 жыл бұрын
My new years resolution is to know every clone trooper's name. Idk what im doing in my life.
@NileFive
@NileFive 3 жыл бұрын
Was that a hbomberguy reference?
@NileFive
@NileFive 3 жыл бұрын
@@mattiesavannahpahl9934 nice,
@Power-9Hunnid
@Power-9Hunnid 3 жыл бұрын
Phantasm and Blight, 2 potential siblings that both had a hand creating Batman Beyond.
@erykcharmuowicz89
@erykcharmuowicz89 3 жыл бұрын
There were also theories that Red Hood may also either Phantasm s father Carl Beaumont that either survived somehow his murder of hands of Joker or somehow be also resurrected and just like his wife and daughter seek revenge for Joker and Valestra Mob for trying to assassinate him or indeed Blight s father Warren Powers .
@Gokitalo
@Gokitalo 3 жыл бұрын
Yep! Carl Beaumont somehow surviving and becoming the Red Hood had always been my guess. Love Slott's real reveal for it, though
@erykcharmuowicz89
@erykcharmuowicz89 3 жыл бұрын
And two explanations of Scarecrow s new look is not only terryfing but also really creepy , scary and dark just like that other one in Legacies comics .
@hamzahasan3361
@hamzahasan3361 3 жыл бұрын
This definitely would have been a masterpiece
@JohnDoe-qy5eu
@JohnDoe-qy5eu 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, I remember one of the covers of the book series was hanged on my wall when I was younger, because it was a cool cover. 6:39 had go back and look for it
@maxalaintwo3578
@maxalaintwo3578 3 жыл бұрын
That World's Finest arc sounded like so much fun. A shame we never got to see it
@srstriker6420
@srstriker6420 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if that would include you know who?
@maxalaintwo3578
@maxalaintwo3578 3 жыл бұрын
@@srstriker6420 Aw cmon dude not this again. Even if it did include her it'd be post-JL anyway
@srstriker6420
@srstriker6420 3 жыл бұрын
@@maxalaintwo3578 but how would it be
@maxalaintwo3578
@maxalaintwo3578 3 жыл бұрын
@@srstriker6420 Batman Adventures Vol. 2 is during Justice League. We wouldn't learn about the Bat and the Hawk's first meeting unless it were a flashback
@srstriker6420
@srstriker6420 3 жыл бұрын
@@maxalaintwo3578 oh right, well I would made it like the episode Speed Demon where it’s just filler.
@gerardorodriguez7500
@gerardorodriguez7500 3 жыл бұрын
Warner Bros should definitely bring back the DCAU with new movies and season of Batman Beyond
@wisconsinking323
@wisconsinking323 3 жыл бұрын
Don't forget Static Shock.
@dcauwatchtower
@dcauwatchtower 3 жыл бұрын
We’ve gotten “Batman and Harley Quinn” and “Justice League vs the Fatal Five” so far at least!
@gerardorodriguez7500
@gerardorodriguez7500 3 жыл бұрын
@@dcauwatchtower yes but more
@aurahoneydew9607
@aurahoneydew9607 3 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't trust them with it now might push for superhero Harley and remove the classic designs to make them look like the movies.
@gerardorodriguez7500
@gerardorodriguez7500 3 жыл бұрын
@@aurahoneydew9607 I just want the DCAU with Static Shock, Batman Beyond and For Green Lantern to have his own show
@d14on
@d14on 3 жыл бұрын
Wait, what if Mattie is Hush lol?
@tracebaker
@tracebaker 3 жыл бұрын
What's up with the Beaumonts having male shaped bodies when in costume?
@VaGTaSter69
@VaGTaSter69 3 жыл бұрын
Got a question for a possible upcoming video: Is the DC Showcase Phantom Stranger feature part of the DCAU? He never had an appearance in the JL show or any of the other DCAU shows I believe. Only a few comics. The feature is directed by Bruce Timm, and I thought you guys would have the answer or could at least make an awesome speculation about it
@dcauwatchtower
@dcauwatchtower 3 жыл бұрын
It’s possible, but there’s not really anything to go off of other than “Bruce Timm made this and it’s in his art style.” They reuse the character design of a Wiccan woman who appeared in “Superman: The Animated Series,” so that timeline definitely doesn’t line up (unless she truly is supernatural-but I think she dies in the short?). I would love for it to be canon, but it’s pretty much impossible to know. I’m sure we’ll still do a video on it at some point.
@faizanfarooque4505
@faizanfarooque4505 3 жыл бұрын
The comic was excellent and I believe that it should have not been cancelled. I couldn't believe some of the risks that the creators were taking in this one, and can only imagine what the status quo in the DCAU would have looked like if they were allowed to follow through with their vision. Nevertheless, excellent video as always.
@hezekiahramirez6965
@hezekiahramirez6965 Жыл бұрын
I completely agree. It's one of my favorite comics. Not just DCAU. It was so frustrating that it got canceled. That's why I kept trying to get the answers (That was me, BTW. I was the commenter Dan Slott replied to)
@craftonblair7052
@craftonblair7052 3 жыл бұрын
I like to think that Catwoman unmasked Batman in that panel. It just seems like something the DCAU version of this character would do tbh
@lydiawoolfy8952
@lydiawoolfy8952 4 ай бұрын
Well why cant the extra volume 2 comics still happen today? Why can't this Victoria Beaumont story still be told in some degree...? I'd love to still happen even if the original story gets changed.
@johnnydc7478
@johnnydc7478 3 жыл бұрын
What if, Sealboy never spoke to killer croc? I think that's dark multiverse worthy
@emeraldcoastarcher
@emeraldcoastarcher 3 жыл бұрын
The Batman X Barbara Gordon story was always weird as fuck and creepy to me. He's known her since she was a child, and is friends with her father. She was also the girlfriend of his adopted son for fucks sake. Plus, I mean how many years older than her is he? The relationship feel very wrong, disgusting, in poor taste, and borderline pedophilic. It's the main reason I could never fully like Batman Beyond or The Return of the Joker movie.
@dcauwatchtower
@dcauwatchtower 3 жыл бұрын
I’d recommend our Batman/Batgirl episode of our “Vanishing Point” show!
@emeraldcoastarcher
@emeraldcoastarcher 3 жыл бұрын
@@dcauwatchtower I will give it a watch.
@gregfoster3757
@gregfoster3757 3 жыл бұрын
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh MY GOD WHAT THEY ARE STEP SIBLINGS AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH IS THIS CANNON THOUGH
@gregfoster3757
@gregfoster3757 3 жыл бұрын
@@mattiesavannahpahl9934 ok
@eligage3687
@eligage3687 3 жыл бұрын
This is my comment to feed the hungry hungry algorithm beast. For he is ravenous
@bendavis7923
@bendavis7923 3 жыл бұрын
Bravo sir. Another solid video.
@tjknight
@tjknight 3 жыл бұрын
Mattie looking like a gaelic warrior with the longer hair 👍
@tonymata8070
@tonymata8070 2 жыл бұрын
38:22 - 38:34 UGH, I know how you feel my dude. These people over at WB legit think that we’re too stupid or easily confused over the concept of different realities, the multiverse, and that series can have two or multiple versions of said character running concurrently. I vehemently detest the quote unquote “Bat-Embargo”, it’s the reason what’s been holding back certain shows (and comics) from having a certain character or have said character be the central focus of said show. It’s also the reason why we can never have a live action Batman series for that dumb reason alone, and why we have some shows like Batwoman and the other show premiering next year… Gotham Knights that has *ZERO* focus on the titular Caped Crusader. Just give us a great Batman live action series, we’ll not be confused just because you’re doing some new Batman movies.
@swagman299
@swagman299 3 жыл бұрын
Phantasm and blight being related is a crazy thought but would be a great one
@freddyjosereginomontalvo4667
@freddyjosereginomontalvo4667 3 жыл бұрын
Hello there This is the coment that is for feeding to this Bulldog monster that is the KZbin algorithm also the biorobotTigger that attack batman and the starro that attack superman. And.... The superdog that appear in the episode of the ultiman
@calebp01_
@calebp01_ 3 жыл бұрын
Zeta
@erykcharmuowicz89
@erykcharmuowicz89 3 жыл бұрын
Your next Vanishing Point videos could be this time about timelines of Clayface , Bane , Poison Ivy and Killer Croc or about ones titled "Does Lucy Quinzel Daughter of Joker and Harley Quinn , Damian Wayne Son of Batman and Talia Al Ghul and Helena Wayne Daughter of Batman and Catwoman exist in DCAU" just like your other Vanishing Point video titled "Does Jason Todd exist in DCAU" !!!!!
@michaelandreipalon359
@michaelandreipalon359 Жыл бұрын
Word of advice to Ty Templeton, Paul Dini, and the rest of the folks making the tie-in comics: *Pretty please resurrect this entire series after finishing up with The Adventures Continue, motherkriffers!!!*
@marcusjavier8901
@marcusjavier8901 3 жыл бұрын
The red hood mystery from BA Vol.2 is like the red X mystery from teen titans animated series
@srstriker6420
@srstriker6420 3 жыл бұрын
And Slade
@dcauwatchtower
@dcauwatchtower 3 жыл бұрын
The difference being: we know the answer
@marcusjavier8901
@marcusjavier8901 3 жыл бұрын
While i found out about it literally just now
@srstriker6420
@srstriker6420 3 жыл бұрын
@@marcusjavier8901 where?
@marcusjavier8901
@marcusjavier8901 3 жыл бұрын
@@srstriker6420 in this video
@meamishere1166
@meamishere1166 3 жыл бұрын
I never understood the point of the "Bat-embargo." The idea that the fans weren't savvy enough to figure out that there could be different universes is ridiculous. I hated it because we never got to see characters such as Catwoman in JLU which in my opinion could have been awesome. On the other hand, I believe it was the reason the Joker was kept out of JLU which was great. He'd been (and still is, in my opinion) overdone. I didn't realize the "Bat-embargo" involved other TV projects. I thought it was because of movie projects that were in the works at the time, such as Batman Begins.
@gregfoster3757
@gregfoster3757 3 жыл бұрын
so where is NIGHTWING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@OPKJayJay
@OPKJayJay 3 жыл бұрын
Ay almost 70k congratulations
@IanWatson
@IanWatson 3 жыл бұрын
4:56 BUSY WITH WHAT, BRUCE? F*CKING AQUAMAN? eeeeeyyyyyyyy
@dcauwatchtower
@dcauwatchtower 3 жыл бұрын
HE’S not in very many JL episodes either... 🤔🤔🤔
@bobbybrown2291
@bobbybrown2291 3 жыл бұрын
Wait, Dan Slott said that Red Hood was Hush so does that mean that Hush is: Spoilers Thomas Elliot?
@Alex-ji6ob
@Alex-ji6ob 3 жыл бұрын
It sucks that this series never got a reprint.
@dcauwatchtower
@dcauwatchtower 3 жыл бұрын
TELL ME ABOUT IT
@michaelandreipalon359
@michaelandreipalon359 Жыл бұрын
Hope it does get a miraculous return after The Adventures Continue is fully wrapped up.
@nicholase82
@nicholase82 3 жыл бұрын
Another big What If is if you could add in anime characters or locations to the Justice League who or what would you add? For me it would be Tenchi, for the cosmic lore and aliens. Issei from DXD for the mythology world. And Academy City from A Certain Magical Index as a way to add in any Battle High School anime I want.
@michaelandreipalon359
@michaelandreipalon359 Жыл бұрын
Mine would be Puella Magi Madoka Magica. Imagine the likes of Batman combatting a so-called gunslinging "clock queen" in the form of the devilish Homura Akemi.
@srstriker6420
@srstriker6420 3 жыл бұрын
4:37 so was Batman supposed to be a mentor for the league especially with that line?
@alterclark1
@alterclark1 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing video!! Didnt know any of that, and may track down those issues. Also, thank u Mattie for the mid-vid lesson. I needed to hear it & I bet others did too.
@alterclark1
@alterclark1 3 жыл бұрын
@@mattiesavannahpahl9934 u 2 Mattie 😊🍻
@ShockwaveFPSStudios
@ShockwaveFPSStudios 3 жыл бұрын
So did Nora Freeze died in between Batman Arkham Adventures "cough" i mean Batman Gotham Adventure and Batman The Adventures Continues or is it just a assumption
@dcauwatchtower
@dcauwatchtower 3 жыл бұрын
She’s dead in BTAC continuity, I guess we have to assume so. We’re workin’ on the timeline!
@diegogchacon
@diegogchacon 3 жыл бұрын
I wish I didn’t watch this video, now I really want a continuation of Batman Adventures😤😤 seriously though, is there any way that it could come back and finish what it was going to do?
@dcauwatchtower
@dcauwatchtower 3 жыл бұрын
Ty Templeton, at the very least, seems to have mostly moved on. With his recent DCAU comics like the “Batman and Harley Quinn” tie-ins and the new “The Adventures Continue,” he’s outright said a few times he feels like those wind up outranking BAv2 in terms of canonicity. So it may not be very important to him to tell the rest of those stories. But I do hope we get SOMETHING someday.
@michaelandreipalon359
@michaelandreipalon359 Жыл бұрын
Then he's a fool for letting annoying loose ends stay untangled.
@questions2493
@questions2493 3 жыл бұрын
Mattie...how do you know I didn't go back in time and merely suggest this video? kinda like the mouse in the movie Dumbo with the Ringleader 😂
@erykcharmuowicz89
@erykcharmuowicz89 3 жыл бұрын
That videos might like your other Vanishing Point video about titled " Does Jason Todd exists in DCAU ? " . But this time videos or even video titled " Does Damian Wayne / Robin Son of Batman , Helena Wayne / Huntress Daughter of Batman and Catwoman and Lucy Quinzel Daughter of Joker and Harley Quinn exist in DCAU " !!!!
@Nightman221k
@Nightman221k 3 жыл бұрын
I am still really disappointed we got the really over-all underwhelming "Adventure Continues" retcon-palooza thing (Jason Todd in the DCAU, really? Not a great idea, and it wasn't executed well) instead of having Batman Adventures FINALLY getting it's overdue continuation. I legitimately think the continuation run at times handled continuing storylines even better than the animated series (Not the fault of the BTAS series writers, but it aired at a time where syndication was emphasized making it so any kid could jump in to any non-two part episode and not feel completely lost, rather than an unfolding narrative).
@dcauwatchtower
@dcauwatchtower 3 жыл бұрын
Can’t say I disagree
@srstriker6420
@srstriker6420 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@hollyhaus1798
@hollyhaus1798 3 жыл бұрын
keanu comics!!!
@srstriker6420
@srstriker6420 3 жыл бұрын
I always wonder if there was no Bat-Embargo because it would have been interesting the Bat-villains were in the Justice league aside from Joker and Clayface.
@maskdude6914
@maskdude6914 2 жыл бұрын
I mean at least obscure batman characters like copperhead, KGBeast, Blockbuster, Deadshot, and Solomon Grundy appeared in that show
@Gsmooth84
@Gsmooth84 3 жыл бұрын
Best part of the video: Mattie's hair.
@Gsmooth84
@Gsmooth84 3 жыл бұрын
@@mattiesavannahpahl9934 Hell Yeah.
@FeatheredCrow
@FeatheredCrow 3 жыл бұрын
I dont know who edited this video but I just want to say, good job. I enjoyed watching this
@dcauwatchtower
@dcauwatchtower 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@dcauwatchtower
@dcauwatchtower 3 жыл бұрын
You may enjoy all our other videos too!
@keanucomics
@keanucomics 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for having me on :D
@kyletowers9662
@kyletowers9662 3 жыл бұрын
I feel that having phantasm and blight be related wouldn't mean as much as it sounds like it would
@jsb6975.ah.crapbaskets
@jsb6975.ah.crapbaskets 3 жыл бұрын
I think that would be more of a "Heh, small world" kinda thing than anything else.
@spyrosmoustakopoulos5852
@spyrosmoustakopoulos5852 3 жыл бұрын
Cool video, but I'm sorry I have to say this, but no, the Phantasm is not part of mainstream DC continuity when this current Batman/Catwoman series is being published by DC Black Label, and all DC Black Label titles are existing outside of mainstream DC continuity, so how does that work out? Unless they're testing the waters first to see what the reception will be for that character in proper comic book form, then they'll introduce her proper, but as of yet, if it's Black Label material then how could that count as a DC mainstream continuity inclusion in the first place? No, I don't get it, because it's not official till it's actually official. However, if they were to make an ongoing Phantasm title in the future and it had really good plot and art, then I'm game, if it ever becomes a reality.
@craigfletcher1511
@craigfletcher1511 3 жыл бұрын
The Fact that Dan Slott tried to shake up the greatest cartoon universe ever before he shook up Spider-Man just makes me love him even more!
@KotoCrash
@KotoCrash Жыл бұрын
That reveal is beyond lame. So, typical of Slott I guess.
@thebunkerparodie6368
@thebunkerparodie6368 3 жыл бұрын
how would it cause confusion considering how different the batman and justice league batman look?
@dcauwatchtower
@dcauwatchtower 3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@zediahcdemos9220
@zediahcdemos9220 3 жыл бұрын
You can always look forward to a Watchtower Database video essay
@diegonei
@diegonei 3 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or Babs/Bruce will never be fine?
@jsb6975.ah.crapbaskets
@jsb6975.ah.crapbaskets 3 жыл бұрын
Not just you.
@KathyXie
@KathyXie 3 жыл бұрын
He is like 20 years older
@porassrivastava8242
@porassrivastava8242 2 жыл бұрын
Slott writes either like John byrne on steroids or like a indian TV soap writer w no in between.
@src6339
@src6339 Жыл бұрын
I'm looking forward to 2021 now. It can't be worse than 2020 right?
@batmanfan6207
@batmanfan6207 3 жыл бұрын
I hope that I can one day get the collected versions of this series one day!
@joeltbb
@joeltbb 3 жыл бұрын
What happened to Scarecrow is really terrifying
@chrisanderson2204
@chrisanderson2204 3 жыл бұрын
Blight was my favorite Batman Beyond villain, along with Inque,Ten,Stalker,The Brain Trust and Payback
@redhood3713
@redhood3713 3 жыл бұрын
I'm subscribed
@supertheorys1176
@supertheorys1176 3 жыл бұрын
Well that sucks Not the video but that it was canceled
@nicksamia4138
@nicksamia4138 3 жыл бұрын
Hey have you guys heard the rumor of a batman the animated series sequel?
@ClassicalMimicry
@ClassicalMimicry 3 жыл бұрын
Didn't "The Batman" have a future episode, about Dr. Freeze returning and killing people? I'll need to rewatch it but I almost feel like that episode is the continued ending of the canceled 2 parter.
@michaelandreipalon359
@michaelandreipalon359 Жыл бұрын
Ah, Season 4, Episode 7 - "Artifacts", set a thousand years after the present day of the show. One of my favorite eps of that show, I'll add, and a nice love letter to The Dark Knight Returns to boot.
@erykcharmuowicz89
@erykcharmuowicz89 3 жыл бұрын
Also what about your Legacies comics , Watchtower Database ? When next issue will be finałonc
@dcauwatchtower
@dcauwatchtower 3 жыл бұрын
Working on several at a time right now, just fell a bit behind because of 2020 reasons, haha. Soon!
@erykcharmuowicz89
@erykcharmuowicz89 3 жыл бұрын
Also too bad we never saw in those Batman Adventures stories about so said creepy one about Man-Bat , story which explains why Scarecrow looks now completely different , Riddler awakening from his coma in Bludhaven Hospital but with amnesia and other ones about Two-Face , Killer Croc , Bronze Tiger , Mad Hatter and Bane . But stories about Clayface , Poison Ivy , Joe Chill and Mr Freeze were indeed cool , awesome and great , guys !!!!! 😎😎🥰🥰😍😍🤩🤩🥰🥰😎😎😍😍🤩🤩😍😍🥰🥰😎😎😎😎🥰🥰😍😍🤩🤩😍😍
@prometheusmodelow8322
@prometheusmodelow8322 3 жыл бұрын
YES, i wish the Bruce and Babs thing wasn't cut out, as that sounds like a much more accurate depiction of the relationship from what is described in the actual show, i feel that way the pairing would not get as much hate as it does now thanks to the horrible representation of it in Beyond 2.0 and Killing Joke.
@heisenbat
@heisenbat 3 жыл бұрын
Mattie, thanks for saying "Ra's" correctly 😊 2021 turning out to be a good year so far
@dcauwatchtower
@dcauwatchtower 3 жыл бұрын
Father’s name was pronounced “Raysh,” not “Raz.” A common mistake.
@TheRealSpiderMew
@TheRealSpiderMew 3 жыл бұрын
1:14 anyone else notice the batman for the stage musical has the same kind of chin that the ArhyBES does for their Batmetal videos? I wonder if ArhyBES got the look idea from that episode or not.
@sahilhossain8204
@sahilhossain8204 Жыл бұрын
Hmm yes lore of dc animated universe momentum 100
@disneyboy3030
@disneyboy3030 Жыл бұрын
I wonder why the line was stopped. Also I would like it if someone made fan comics to tie up the rest of the lose ends.
@dcauwatchtower
@dcauwatchtower Жыл бұрын
- Because of the “The Batman” comic, which I believe we mentioned - We do that! legaciesdcau.com
@nightwing7485
@nightwing7485 3 жыл бұрын
I'm subbed
@flyingpigproductions5934
@flyingpigproductions5934 3 жыл бұрын
Holy shit, you lost 40 pounds?? That's awesome congrats!
@martinharvey-olson8553
@martinharvey-olson8553 3 жыл бұрын
Wasn’t expecting Vee Infuso in here, pleasantly surprised. Love his vids
@ItsOver9000Productions
@ItsOver9000Productions 3 жыл бұрын
On another note, i kind of find it hard to believe TNBA Batman and JL/U are the same person. Tnba is really brutal and aggressive and i felt the violence had ramped up significantly whiles JL/U Batman is very agile and mostly calm and collected making his occasional outburst way more significant. Plus hes a bit more light hearted. Like I cant imagine TNBA Batman dodging the spikes in Egypt the same way JLU did
@dcauwatchtower
@dcauwatchtower 3 жыл бұрын
People can change with time ;)
@ItsOver9000Productions
@ItsOver9000Productions 3 жыл бұрын
@@dcauwatchtower but i thought they're happening simultaneously?
@Gokitalo
@Gokitalo 3 жыл бұрын
@@ItsOver9000Productions Look at Batman in the JLU episode "Twilight," though: he's still a fairly harsh dude at the stage (e.g. the famous "Cry me a river" line). After that was when he started to soften-- eulogizing Superman, admiring the Flash's ingenuity in "A Better World," and so on. Justice League and JLU were transformative shows for Batman, showing what happens when the Dark Knight regularly works with peers, rather than sidekicks-- he becomes a warmer, even friendlier guy, since he has people he can relate to.
@michaelnoga3737
@michaelnoga3737 3 жыл бұрын
Ah, the Vanishing Point ending... how I’ve missed it... good to hear a variation of it at least
@karma-4730
@karma-4730 3 жыл бұрын
1 of 20 gods of the lore pantheon your support is well justified
@jamesstreckerfan1743
@jamesstreckerfan1743 3 жыл бұрын
Woah I never new this I'm glad you guys at the WDB can shed some light on this stuff
@althentik
@althentik 3 жыл бұрын
I was a big fan of the shows but never read the comics as a kid your channel has exposed me to a ton of awesome storylines expanding the universe and characters I love so much. Keep up the great work guys!
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