The True Reason ACHERON Is The BEST CHARACTER - 2.1 TIER LIST!!! [Honkai: Star Rail]

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Timestamps
00:00 - Intro
00:22 - MSF Sponsor
02:35 - Acheron is the best
04:22 - Acheron TL rankings
10:30 - Gallagher
11:35 - Aventurine thoughts

[@VolkinYT]

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[@koji197]

simulated universe farming never been this fast

[@NoComment77566]

yeah slash3 eat snack

[@SpongLovely]

Mint picking has never been this fast

[@HermsWorldWide]

On god 😂

[@juliogomez2534]

5 mins is my personal best. I love this woman xD

[@SpongLovely]

@@zalox12 Lol

[@eybiecie6268]

Not just in the overworld she is really fun in SU too, I just spam erudition acheron in G and G its really fun watching her spam ult.

[@D157urb3d0]

It's so fun watching her one shot bosses health bars for like 2-4 mil.

[@heron619]

One thing to note about the PF ratings of both Acheron and Blade is that they do have proper AOE attacks in their kit (and Clara to a lesser extent with her skill) and not just exclusively 3 target cleave like the others. Acheron's last attack on her Ultimate is full AOE and Blade's Follow Up is also full AOE.

[@smexxxxy]

Consuming the knots with each rain blade is also AoE.

[@MioTaeyeon]

Acheron just saved me a lot of time exploring maps and su. not to mention how strong and hot she is..haha

[@JelleKaerts]

How do you manage the technique points? Are there enough purple barrels?

[@imperial_7776]

​@@JelleKaertsyou just use consumables. You can use consumable in normal su. I dont know about g&g and swarm disaster though As for overworld...you can just consume things and continue on. I have those replenish two technique points around 200ish. 😂

[@lsnexus2080]

@@JelleKaerts craft consumables. its very easy. and you can buy them as well. but limited per day. so you have to buy them everyday and stack up. its super cheap anyway. that way you can cheat SU and have easy life.

[@MioTaeyeon]

@@JelleKaerts buy the consumables known as "trick snack". You can buy it from jarillo vi or craft it. The mats can be bought in luofu

[@WAVE00799]

She carried me hard this pure fiction NGL

[@juliogomez2534]

One thing to note is that the "Formidable Enemies" you usually enounter in new areas (this is mostly for new players) she can dispatch as long has they aren't elites, making the process of gathering chest for a new players account quite fast.

[@TsuchiGamer06]

As JY haver, I like having her and him because now I have options vs certain Lightning weak content. Can I hyper carry this? Am I already using Pela/SW/Sparkle/Fu Xuan on other teams? All these questions and I get new freedom for this insanely busted unit. I love her a lot

[@whiteglint8191]

I feel like Acheron is S in PF too. Even with E0 you can run her with 1 less nihility there since her damage is just so high, so instead you can bring another AoE unit like Himeko or Serval to break enemies and give her a ton of stacks

[@skykingz9068]

yh mine allowed me to go from 48k pts in pf to 60k,basically cleared this week just cuz of her.

[@dariel299]

she's definitely S/s+ in pure fiction easily cleared the new PF and even the prev one

[@Derektwgu]

She’s definitely not bad in PF but not on the same level as Himeko/Herta/Argenti. PF is not about dmg numbers but more about how frequently you can attack. If you played the current S/S+ PF DPS you’d know that they can clear the first two waves without actually taking more than one turn by chaining Fua with Himeko/Herta or spamming ult with Argenti. Acheron with only true AOE on her ult simply can’t compete with that, even though her ult recharge is accelerated in PF. This is coming from someone who full cleared PF-4 both sides using only 1 cycle on each side.

[@skataneric]

I don't ever use food items and she literally has made me want more tech food because it's so nice to just fly through the overworld now. Sim universe is just busted with her now. On top of not having her light cone (but I do have S3 GNSW) and passable gear and still pulling out 200-500k ults. I have the Fu Xuan/Pela/Silverwolf team and it's just sick.

[@josemarques8473]

So, guys, I'm wondering if anyone can help me... I've got a few 5*, like: Kafka - Ruan Mei - Black Swan - Luocha - Gepard - Silver Wolf - Bronya (E1 S1) - Sparkle - Himeko - Yanqing - Dr. Ratio... ... and still can't clear MoC. Should I go for Acheron as a mostly f2p player even if I already have Kafka for lightning coverage? Bear in mind I'll pull for Aventurine for sure and maybe probably only Robin next patch. I was intending to pull for Jingliu as well but now I'm not sure... Also, I really don't know if I should go for Jing Liu as well. As of now, I have 30 pulls + 57k jades What should I do?

[@MaximumCarnage-]

Should I S2 her LC or keep the extra copy? Not sure if another character can use it. I got her LC in 12 rolls and I decided to do 20 more to try for GNSW and got it again in 12 pulls lmao. No GNSW tho. I love her for sure. Aventurine was interested until I played him in the story. Was so fun with Topaz/Ratio/Gwen. I forgot Topaz basic counts as a follow up so you fill his stacks instantly with them.

[@Doctor_Yiggles]

I've definitely been doing more overworld farming then before. I use to do it all the time then I had stopped since around IL came out. But although I do run a fully built team with her she is just fun to run around with. Also love having her for SU makes the runs so much faster!

[@chrisryan1501]

Hey love the channel + appreciate the content Just pulled e2 acheron 10 min ago…stoked! E2S1 is so fun. Do you think she’ll get powercrept?

[@Nero-nq9ts]

The day she gets powercrept, all current DPS including kafka and topaz (enablers) will also fall off. Her multiplier is too high to get powercrept. She will fall off eventually but will alwsys have top 7 damage in game just from the multipliers and you have E2S1. I suggest just build her to 60/250-270 CC. Don't even worry about her powercreep. PS, pll for jiaoqiu in 2.4

[@wyspreegamings6380]

Kool, you convinced me to get an Acheron on both America and Asia accounts. 🗡

[@NoComment77566]

fuxuan or aventurine ? someone please recommend me

[@mannydani9180]

Acheron is the hardest banner to skip for me. If almost ANYONE else was following Acheron, I would absolutely pull for her but I want Aventurine to have a decent shielder on my roster. Right now, I'm looking for 3 reruns; Blade (skipped him to get Ruan Mei), Topaz (I have her E0S1, I want E1S1 for my Ratio team), and Acheron (I'm skipping her to guarantee Aventurine and maybe his LC depending on luck)

[@faisalthatsme7816]

I have guaranteed pity and Iam saving for jingliu with her weapon Should I pull for acheron but I may fail to get jingliu?

[@kapilkhandelwal48]

I'm just so confused should I go for her lightcone or not I already have s5 gnsw

[@Virise1]

Her lc gives her a debuff on her skill which would give her 2 stacks rather than 1 and stack her ult faster, if you can get it, I say go for it

[@kapilkhandelwal48]

@@Virise1Yaa I'll try to get that mp

[@templeknights]

I got E6 S5 Acheron with Hanabi E2 and her LC and its just annihilation mode wherever I go. She is crazy fun.

[@xHrdly]

As someone who has Acheron built fully and jingliu somewhat, is it worth considering building let’s say units like himeko/herta others, purely just for pure fiction

[@VolkinYT]

id be building her if i had her

[@myne5689]

I still think I'd say one of the support or sustain top tiers are the best since they're harder to replace. Dps tend to get out performed the quickest. I mean not long ago everyone was saying Jingliu is the "best." Truth is Jingliu is still perfectly usable.

[@benjaminroe311ify]

Good point. Ruan Mei Fu Xuan to me are THE BEST for this reason. Acheron is the best DPS Though right now.

[@eckology016]

A.) She came out like 6 months ago at this point. B.) Still is at E0. The other two just have stronger Eidolons (plus LC in Acheron's case).

[@domikatz]

Feel like adventurine is a must pull for clearing the hardest future content way easier. a sim uni harder than gold and gears will change everything

[@MrDrainBramaged]

i hope not...Cant stand him

[@JJ-mn3nd]

@MrDrainBramaged you should play the 2.1 story, it makes him the best character in the game, most people really like his character after playing 2.1 story

[@MrDrainBramaged]

@@JJ-mn3nd the 2.1 story is why i dont like him LMAO..Hes a self absorbed douche bag..Yeah his childhood was sad and all but hes just generic power hunger villian with a sad backstory More interested in the Acheron backstory to find out who she is..way more interesting because i have so many theories.

[@Toastyz27]

​@@MrDrainBramagedif that's what you got from that quest then 😟 We're cooked

[@MrDrainBramaged]

@Toastyz27 lmao ok..tbh most people just simp cause they think he's hot 😂😂

[@Havoc369]

1000% true. My fun for the game has been refreshed due to acheron. Actually enjoying su content.

[@azrilitsuki6289]

Hey volkin I'm a mint picker since day 1 soo I know all the mob in the map, since acereon relese yes you can easely clear all the mob in the map but is still take 1 hours befor acheron it takes 2-3 hour to clear all the mob in the map but you need at least 150 + technic point to clear all the mob in the map that is her minus.

[@redhawk2793]

I got lucky and got her LC at 20 pity so that's kinda nice

[@yuukiyunaSGM]

Even with my end game account i still farm the overworld with acheron right now i know the locations of every monster every breakable objects when they reset every day

[@AmeerHijjawi]

Techniquing - Word of the day lol.. Loved it

[@CrizDig0]

Acheron is indeed OP af. I am happy with my Kafka x BS tho, to cover that lightning DPS category. I will be saving and pulling for Aventurine, because my account needs sustain units. I'm only saying this so people don't feel pressured to get her because she is OP, if they think they don't need her, then perhaps it's better to save for consistency purposed. However, it is a game at the end of the day, and if you like her, then you should also pull her if you want. Good luck with the pulls! :)

[@patrick6210]

Right now I have 2 issues, I don’t have the ideal lightcone for pela and I don’t have any other nihility characters for Acheron

[@dapperdrifter5449]

She also made me do rerolls because of how fun she is. Ended up with her and her lc in under 80 pulls and she hard carries everything

[@JadedHeart8]

We need a technique tier list with Acheron on top 🔥

[@epitome-of-sin]

Acheron is my favorite character over Blade now. It was fun and fast going around getting the rest of the chests and puzzles I missed in Belobog and Xianzhou. My current team with her is Gepard (TOM LC), E6 Pela (Luka LC), E1S1 Acheron, and Welt (Sampo LC). I have Jingliu so I can use her and Blade to stomp one side of PF & MOC and Acheron to stomp the other. Now if I can manage to get E2 Acheron before the banner is up, I can slot in Ruan Mei and just delete everything even more.

[@beanswater]

I'm totally on the "Acheron's technique is the best part of her character" camp. I've talked about it to people on several occasions already. Acheron could be Star Rail's Aloy and I'd still pull for her just for the technique.

[@asdasdsadasd4]

A level 1 acheron could one shot a level 9000 normals. That's how insane her technique is.

[@kennrheymiraflores5128]

I got 3 Acherons in 40 pulls. Plus I won the 50-50 in LC banner. Was thinking it must be my luckiest week! Then my PSU got damaged in the same week. I guess I lost more.

[@LiPa8063]

let's do it!!

[@dcstrife]

I got Lucky1 E2/S0 and she's BEAST

[@sharkkaito]

somewhat accidentally pulled acheron after sparkle and now i have 3 full teams: dot, jl double harmony, acheron welt lol

[@slayerzam]

im saving for that quantum 5 star dmg dealer

[@user-rr6sk6ds7h]

is it jade？i look at her kit and she look like a eudition that crosspath with harmony.

[@draculaisme]

Seele left the chat

[@Exodia_99]

@@draculaisme I mean REAL 5 star quantum character

[@bjornnilsson2941]

Yeah I completely agree, Acheron is must pull tier not only because she's the best DPS in the game at any investment level, but because she trivializes the most tedious parts of the game which is fighting trash mobs in the overworld and SU. I haven't actually tried her in PF yet, but I cannot imagine it makes sense to put her and Serval in the same tier. I feel like she ults more frequently even than Serval in most content so by that alone she'd be better. It makes sense that Herta, Himeko and Argenti are above her though. Jing Yuan and her should swap in the tier list, I don't know what they're thinking. Jings kit is very similar except he can't control his LL but his skill is AoE. If he's not one-tapping the whole field with his skill then you're not going to be outperforming Acheron.

[@user-ph4wu3sw8k]

No, brother, Jing Yuan won't be leaving tier S anytime soon, all because of sparkle.

[@user-ph4wu3sw8k]

at this point it's easier, seele and QQ go down

[@flatdefgod2960]

​@@user-ph4wu3sw8kyupe once 2.3 Jade is here seele and qq will go down Jade basically powerhouse as quantum DPS ( 5* quantum erudition with follow up atk)😂

[@user-ph4wu3sw8k]

@@flatdefgod2960 perfect

[@bewitted1169]

@@flatdefgod2960 Jade is a fua support mainly for the IPC team (Aventurine, Topaz, and/or Ratio); she won't be powercreeping Seele or QQ. To add on, not even boothill will powercreep Seele. Seele still has resurgence which no other limited Hunt characters have. Both Seele and QQ have their mono quantum team which can brute force any content in the game. QQ has her rng gambling, which if you get lucky and can consistently proc her e4, her damage can be on par with IL + Sparkle.

[@dzreal9254]

i dont have acheron cuz i want bootlick what do u mean playing the game wrong :| i can beat moc12 3s , shes cool and strong 100% but doesnt mean if u have it ur playing the game wrong .i play to have fun and i want bootlick

[@frosty8079]

As a new player with acheron after my 1st 30 pulls, can confirm I progress fast and feel strong.

[@user-qq9no9wr4g]

I wonder where Aventurine will be place in the tier list

[@patrick6210]

New account and all, only started a week ago. If I knew more about Acheron I would’ve started when black swan was out

[@MrDrainBramaged]

I have e2 Acheron and her Signature LC. In simulated universe ive hit for almost 4 million..In non simulated universe ive hit for 1.2 million..shes fucking nutty..Her ult ignores res so she even powercreeps Jingliu even lol

[@elizab549]

I’ve hit almost a million E0S0, do better she’s stronger than that

[@Toastyz27]

​@@elizab549cringe comment icl 💀

[@Sirciel]

Can u guys post the stats needed to reach those numbers?

[@elizab549]

E0 S5 gnsw, sparkle pela, silver wolf. If you have black swan use her instead. My Acheron build 71/180 , debuffer set, inert salsotto for now atk boots and orb

[@Sirciel]

@@elizab549 our stats is similar but mine only deals 500k somehow How many enemies do u hit for it to reach 1 mil Oo Im Using speed boots I forgot and pepsi orbs, I'm guesing u have 4.2k atk if u run atk boots (edited)

[@NameNotAChannel]

I tried 40 pulls from free tickets and shop tickets... didn't get her or Ghallager. Saving all my jades for Aventurine and Fu Xuan... they're far more important to have on my team. Gotta wait for a re-run for Acheron. Tried 1 more 10pull, got Gallagher. Tried 1 more 10pull, got 3 Gallaghers... decided things were going well, so single pulled after that, and got her within 10 more. Couldn't pass up her utility, and still have over 22k jade, with a free 1600 coming soon, more events, and I haven't finished MoC/Pure Fiction stuff.

[@Element6273]

I skipped Sparkle and threw all my pulls into the Acheron banner and got E3 Acheron + LC, completely destroys everything. So much fun.

[@MrDrainBramaged]

imagine if you got sparkle and e2 acheron and her LC

[@Element6273]

Definitely getting Sparkle on her re run, going to be insane.

[@Itachiflameamaterasu]

Dont worry about Sparkle, Robin is around the corner and is gonna be insane.

[@MrDrainBramaged]

@@Itachiflameamaterasu Robin is attack buff..she's a tingyun replacement. She won't replace sparkle

[@AlwaysOnA3Bar]

I lost my 50/50, had to go to pity twice to get her. At least I got her but wtf, now I’m putting everything into her lightcone banner.

[@nickhall1616]

I got Acheron. But I’m way more excited for aventurine and his LC

[@whytesquall]

Man, seeing this and reading comments makes me really wanna pull for her, but I also want to guarantee myself Sam and his lightcone. He's one of the coolest units I've seen. I've had the displeasure of losing literally all but 1 50/50, and even lost a light cone roll of the 3 I went after, since the games launch and I was light spender until recently. I have 6k gems and 25ish tickets. I'm right next to pity, so I can get her within 10 summons but then I'll be back to (probably losing) the 50/50. I won't go after her light cone, so that's something that's holding me back a bit as well.

[@crash5758]

He’s not confirmed yet and you still have a patch and a half left if he’s going to be in 2.3. I understand though, it’s risky

[@whytesquall]

@@crash5758 Yeah, man I usually summon for everyone and just accept whoever I get. But she's looking good. I do have Kafka with her light cone, but she clearly knocks her out of the water. However, I have no good fire units, so I really want Sam just to balance my account, if nothing else. I think I will get her, but I'm really hoping Sam isn't after (I assume) Aventurine next.

[@crash5758]

@@whytesquall robin and boothill is next. Sam/firefly is going to be big though especially since fire doesn’t have an S tier dps as yet

[@beatsrd2821]

If you are a grinder she will save you an absurd amount of time. Faster Overworld and SU farming which means more resources at your disposal, especially credits since we all know leveling a character/ Lc/ Relics is damn expensive in this game.

[@kish4corheunbl]

Ngl I used her on PF and she was actually great on it as well. As long as you don't turn on Auto battle you'll 40k points the stage quite easily. Imo she's definitely at least S tier on PF.

[@brianmoore5366]

Personally haven't used her technique much. I don't farm the over world. When i look for chest i just run past everything. I've used it to speed up areas of SU, but most of the time i don't use it. I think im just numb to trash mob farming from years of jrpg farming and 100% games. It more than likely just a me thing other people may get more mileage out it than me. I have mix feelings about combat. Now i have room for improvement since she is lvl 70 and her LC is lvl 70 with lvl 7 talents across with 75/140 crit value. No final opinions till she is has little more investment into her. Early thoughts, ive had fun using her, but more challenging content its a struggle. Swarm disaster i made it to kafka boss fight and no further. Acheron wasn't outputting high enough dmg to clear it fast and my sustain ended up not being able to keep up so i started to lose party members. Not her fault she needs more luv, but i ran 2 teams. One with kafka and BS and the other BS and Pela. Both used fu xuan as the sustain. Kafka Bs team got her ult up quick, but after a few cycles it started to run out of steam because of the high skill point consumption. The time between ults started growing as kafka didn't have her signature so she wasn't applying a debuff when she normal attacked and BS im not sure if her normal applies or not. Sometimes it did and sometimes it didn't kind of confused me. Trends of the market requires fu xuan be hit and there where a lot of times that didn't happen so it didn't proc. The second team with pela and bs was better on the skill point consumption but i don't have s5 pearl i have s2. When i was alternating skill and normal with my pela i got the pearl proc every other normal atk. So ended up having the same problem again where Acheron started running out of steam again because the time between ults started growing. This can be improved by me putting more investment in Acheron so she can clear it faster, but i do think its a note worth mentioning that she does run out of gas after a few cycles. She is really good if u can clear it quick, but if u can't clear quick then she starts to run out of steam. While people who maxed her out might not be running into this issue. I think its worth future consideration as harder content comes and causes her to take more time to clear. I thought she would of been better in pure fiction due to her aoe, but she fizzles out. When u want her ult its not there and when u don't want it its there. Its a waste to hog it after she stocks up 3 because now the debuffs your hitting are doing nothing. Pure fiction really isn't her game mode. Ive ended up falling back to my kafka and Jing Liu team. Kafka being my best built dps and jing liu is slightly better built than Acheron. Jing Liu is at least lvl 80 eith s5 aeon at lvl 80 eith lvl 8 talents 22/196 crit. I think u said best here. Jing Liu is a safe and comfy character that i can't help but fall back into

[@uhsieh]

I have an alt-account with Archeron. It's fun, but also frustrating cause I cannot get mats for her.

[@playboxfan]

Gallagher > lynx and the rest of 4 star sustains + bailu and it is not even close if you have him e2+.

[@JJ-mn3nd]

I was about to go crazy when he said DHIL is “ meh”

[@Usernameunknown23]

My Acheron is e0s1 with talents half levelled up and also very very bad artifacts and does 200k burst 💀

[@benjaminroe311ify]

Acheron is cracked in this PF though because of one of the buffs.

[@WestProZ17]

That S+ tier gonna get crowded when SAM drops.

[@shirio45]

I have gnsw s5 and she hits 1 million with swan pela ruan mei, really she hits way too hard I feel like her lc is kinda overkill

[@Itachiflameamaterasu]

The fact that she can be used in every content and not need the same old support that every dps uses is super good. Will be the Best DPS for a good damn while tbh.

[@HunterSolo]

i got her for the sim universe lol she's too good to pass up dmg aside

[@BenjieTS]

I rerolled, and got Acheron on my first 10 pull, then on the starter banner, got Bronya also on my first 10, then switch to standard, and got Bronya again on the first 10... amazing luck. I even posted a video about it. But not sure if Im going to play that. lol.

[@ricardokojin7]

I got her, her LC and Luocha in less than 60 pulls. (got her in 6, then the LC in 20, then luocha) I did have to reroll a few times in order to get that tho lol.... now I'm close to pity but saving my tickets for Aventurine

[@BenjieTS]

@@ricardokojin7 nice

[@Cino-Cin]

I keep seeing people put Argenti so low and I dont understand why. Then I remember Mygenti is E6 S5 😅

[@Kro-RissaVirus]

Guess I’m playing the game wrong then cause I’m absolutly skipping Acheron for Robin, and I’ve gotten all the overworld chests cause it’s fun lol.

[@The_CodFish69]

Hmm this site is so inconsistent it always puts character up a tier if they are buffed by other characters like Sparkle/BS did when they got added *Yet* Pela who's still more useful in more situations then SW is still in A tier yet she a basically a Must run on the new Queen of the games team.... idk anymore. And yes I know just how good SW is on her team aswell but the fact that she's still in A tier yet she is more relevant then then all of the A tier characters and a good chunk of the S Tier by itself should prove it enough so I can't see her personality being down there *Till That Unit Releases* then I can see her in A tier.

[@potatopcgamer739]

DiD 40k points with e0s0 Acheron in pure fiction , dunno what they doing with her PF tier

[@KaiFreiren]

I want whatever they are on when placing her in pure fiction Easiest 40k of my life, just put fmc in and watch her ult constantly xD

[@Toastyz27]

​@@KaiFreiren^ this I used March 7th and still got 40k with a whole cycle left

[@zytenespada6564]

Can't say cause Black Swan/Kafka are doing most of the work for me. I even slapped Himeko in that team cause they don't need RM. Easy 40k on auto.

[@termina2737]

Is it still worth pulling for Jingliu?

[@SlL222]

Yes, pull for wifu

[@termina2737]

@@SlL222 not waifu collector. I meant power wise/power creep wise.

[@mainyyt6360]

@@termina2737 Damage dealers will always be power crept, but she is still an amazing unit. If you don't have an ice dmg dealer then go for it

[@3.16music]

Not really. Acheron is more universal, and with her you don’t really need ice DPS

[@Derdaida]

Where is my boy welt :'(

[@limhx-6734]

Deserved S+ tier for the capability to speedrun Simulated Universe

[@AllBeganwithBBS]

I am holding strong to not pull for Acheron as I already have more than enough lightning DPS characters and really need to wait for a solid harmony unit, but you sure are making it difficult huh?

[@catblanc5279]

First let's goo

[@Justme-jp8ih]

I feel sorry for the people that didnt get Acheron. Her technique alone is the best thing we got in this game so far its insane. That alone is reason to pull

[@Mr.Ashhhh]

At E0 Acheron is way above DHIL and Jingliu

[@Kunoichi4ever4]

Great vid!! Just a note : Aventurine does have a buffing ability (as his debuff - its weird to say )on his ult - he applies "unnerved" on the enemy, and the enemy then receives x%(based on trace level) more CD when attacked. So a total counterside to FuXuan who buffs CR%, he buffs CD%. Not sure about the uptime for all teams, but in a FU team I tested him in the story-mode (Topaz+Dr Ratio) it was basically always up. Personally as sb who overcaps on CR% (my relics just roll into CR over CD almost constantly), I am excited for any CD% buffs.

[@marclenraymagdaraog691]

In the end it's not the best thing.. since We're prob going to get a nihility unit that debuffs better.. or an abundance unit that really pairs up with debuffs.

[@Kunoichi4ever4]

@@marclenraymagdaraog691 I mean Aventurine s kit was never meant in my opinion to serve primarly Acheron, he is for FuA teams, and I d assume they added the debuff just so he is literally the BiS possible for Ratio, which made him also good for Acheron. And while...there are dreams that Acheron is getting a support, that still aint a sustain. I am currently not aware of any sustain coming out that d serve Acheron or FuA units better than Aventurine does, which means - for 8 months minimum he will be the best, after that they may create a more debuff oriented sustain, but I d expec thim to be the best in his intended niche forever - aka FuA team sustain. So I do think he is a must pull for Ratio or FuA enjoyers, otherwise I think its just a matter of prefrence.

[@feelsgoodman9737]

I don't see Boot Hill topping Archeron cause he is single target but Dr. Ratio will be dethroned as single target king.

[@juancarlos6570]

Guys hear me out, Acheron its also SS on Pure ficction, I managed to get 40000 points with her super easily

[@zytenespada6564]

The rotation was made for her. Other rotations won't be the same, I use her with Kafka/BS and they will be carrying more than Acheron but cause she needs debuffs from both BS/Kafka.

[@juancarlos6570]

@@zytenespada6564 Idk man with fire mc I was getting acheron ultimamte so f fast, I don't see a rotation where she's bad

[@marupurusaivamsi4802]

Brother acheron is A in pure fiction?. I did completed my prediction runs with her too easily than ky argenti 😂

[@tweezy5804]

My e2 acheron has 81% crit rate / 289% crit damage. 132 speed. 3600 attack lol. Sorry, just had to flex a little.

[@alexisgameurrt2054]

I will be making these stats my goal with her ( got her e2s1 ). Also is the 81% crit rate just the base crit rate or did you add the 18% crit rate from her eidolon and the 12% crit rate from her 4 piece set ( when one unit is following the same path as her)

[@user-ry9yw3nh6k]

Ez mode unlocked

[@Zeklyon]

I still don't know what the new enemies do because I just Technique spam. In SU Acheron and Ruan Mei just delete elites and bosses. They literally leave elites with about 20-30% hp and completely skip one phase of bosses just by entering combat. She legit power creeps not only in damage but in QOL too. I strongly disagree that she is A tier in pure fiction. She straight up one phase all the trash mobs and ult spams the elites. Ruan Mei, Kafka, Black Swan, Acheron in pure fiction is just too strong.

[@SELORONIOS]

not coping, her technique is the best thing.

[@wikidpsycokilla]

A first time player 1-shotting everything with Acheron is gonna keep hitting walls on elites and bosses. They wont know if they need to level/upgrade, they wont get the needed experience with team synergy, turn order and managing skill points, and they wont know kill priority because they wont know what the small mobs do.

[@ForTheViolence]

E2 Gepard with IPC lightcone can apply 3 debuffs, Ask Acheron if she likes that. I'm convinced the people who make these tier list don't actually theory craft. So why do we care about a tier list from these people?

[@zytenespada6564]

Black Swan needs to be higher. Herta will fall off, next PF will have higher HP enemies. Himeko will go to S+ and replace her.

[@rlstrength]

Whoever put jing yuan on S in pure fiction is delusional. I have his E6 and he's still very easily outperformed by e0 acheron. The LL usually smashes at bad timed (like 1 mob remaining) and even with RM buffing him his regular multipliers are not doing much

[@user-ph4wu3sw8k]

jing yuan will remain at level S, he benefits a lot from sparkle, all his AOE damage has more advantage in this mode.

[@flatdefgod2960]

Acheron straight up powerhouse I love her technique is like cheating and Tbh with low investment she hit 300k+ raw DMG with only 3k atk,140%cd😂 welt LC 😂 I knew it as soon as her drip marketing, archeron will powercreep Jy 😅

[@danyxrevosky9656]

Gallagher is an S+ sustain.

[@draculaisme]

Copium. He is fun though

[@danyxrevosky9656]

@@draculaisme I'm just a simp

[@alighaebi734]

Based on what I’ve seen and what we got adventurine is better than fu xuan

[@qzrexe]

qq is the best character, people who think otherwise are js malding at their autarky luck

[@Hassan_d_dagan]

There can't be three S+ DPS units. Using the bell curve both Jingliu & DHIL need to be moved down.

[@WestProZ17]

A DPS can neve be "the best character" End of it they're just a DPS and only benefits themselves. Ruan Mei and Fu Xuan are uncontested the best 2 characters in HSR right now.

[@Gurenn83]

Acheron is EASY mode enabled

[@abduraghmaanariefdien4522]

Seele is still S tier 💀 damn thats just crazy 💀

[@solace4366]

Imagine a character that can 0 cycle every MoC since the beginning of the game be a S tier 💀

[@adityad2280]

😅

[@ricardokojin7]

A new Acheron account without her LC would not be ideal... but if you manage to get both the LC and her in less than 80 pulls... well, that works out quite well ( I know because I made one lol) .... just make sure not to take your TB level too far.

[@Lumiere192]

Mid unit boothill better

[@ironlegion1580]

After few hours of understanding. I'd give her a A The only reason forthat is SHE NEEDS A DEBUF?!!! Which wasted my time without building silverworlf

[@YumiSumire]

2:47 I don't really need to farm overworld anymore. I have also become too strong for the Simulated Universe, so I can skip the small mobs and kill the big mobs. Acheron wouldn't change much.

[@rlstrength]

Yea don't really understand the point even if you want the chests you can skip 99% of the mobs by running past them I think the technique oneshot is a fun addition but I bet it will get boring real fast. Like overworld farming with that might be fast but it has to be sooooo boring

[@VolkinYT]

pretty much this. not coz u need to. shit is just a fun novelty and even though it will fade i still love it

[@user-rr6sk6ds7h]

is not whether or not u can beat simulated universe. Is whether or not u could speed farm simulated universe.

[@YumiSumire]

@@user-rr6sk6ds7h yes Acheron would speed up my runs up by like 1-2 minutes per run. But I have other plans, so I don't wanna spend 100+ pulls. Also, they're planning to change SU soon, so who knows how they will speed up the SU farming.

[@user-rr6sk6ds7h]

@@YumiSumire seriously？only one or two minutes？After having her i could never play SU without acheron ever again.

[@Deathclaw6364]

The absolute disrespect on Gallaghers name in this tier list Is insane I understand at e0 he's worse but they rate him at e6 here which is where he gains lots of utilities including a cleanse he's absolutely better than lynx and should be in the same tier he's super skill point positive too even more than luocha unless you need to skill

[@wingofshu]

que que is defently around c if not D tier and defently doesent do better then the 5 stars