The TRUE Reason Kion Isn’t In The Lion King 2 (Canon): Discovering Disney

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Isaac discusses the true reason Kion, the son of Simba, disappeared during the events of The Lion King 2: Simba’s Pride.
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While Kion, the second child of Simba, was born after the Outlanders were banished and Kiara first met her soulmate Kovu, where did he go prior to Kiara’s first hunt? At some point before Kiara became an adult, her younger brother seemingly disappeared before the conflict that reunited the Pride Landers with the Outlanders, but today we finally have an answer to this question.
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[@IsaacCarlson]

While when I first began to think about Kion I developed theories on what happened to him, today I'm exploring the newly revealed true answer! Also, be sure to check out my magical adventures over on Instagram @Wotso Videos! Have a magical day! ✨

[@deshawnedwards6412]

Please do Jessie Prescott's Full Story from Jessie.

[@ender1x381]

Hi

[@deshawnedwards6412]

Please do the Full Backstory of Mrs. Flynn and Mr. Fletcher Phineas, Ferb and Candace parents from Phineas and Ferb.

[@elitleguy1445]

Let's go

[@DopierSteak_]

I've been wondering this for awhile now! Scar mentioned Mufasa gave Scar the nickname Scar! I am wondering. What is Scars real name?

[@justjackh]

The real reason: Disney just didn’t bother to add him in TLK 2, but then created a whole new show about him in 2015 to get more money

[@justjackh]

@@reviewing_kingdomyt6614 Bruh, don't kill my vibe

[@reviewing_kingdomyt6614]

@@justjackh i mean thats what happend so Kion is cannon

[@MovhisMocjaoa]

@@reviewing_kingdomyt6614 kion is only cannon because Disney made an excuse as to where he was. Skully is completely right

[@hajihabib3576]

U sure

[@StefanyDjuba]

He didn't exist

[@sonicking91784]

The scar didn't turn Scar evil, remember, the Strange Lion convinced Scar to follow him by promising him power and the throne. So Scar was already willing to betray Mufasa before he even had the Mark of Evil.

[@Rafael-qd3yq]

Exactly, he still was jealous of Mufasa.

[@error8119]

Remember this IS Scar trying to persuade a young cub that knows nothing of his past. He's saying things to get this cub to turn evil, to mess with his head while he's under the effects of the poison. And seeing how everyone reacts to the poison and the story I think it's safe to say the poison does make you worse. Taka was willing to take over, but I doubt he was willing to actually kill Mufasa. If he wanted power then he most likely wanted to beat Mufasa in a fight for the throne, not throw his brother off of a cliff, so the part about the poison messing with him could've been true

[@sonicking91784]

@@error8119 Yeah not doubting the venom made Taka worse but he definitely had it out for Mufasa, and Taka is the cunning one, he'd know that he could never best Mufasa in a fair Mashindano.

[@error8119]

@@sonicking91784 I mean I assume that's the reason for the whole quest for power he couldn't get by himself

[@jayvonnoelsmith8445]

​@@Rafael-qd3yqyes he was

[@c.w.simpsonproductions1230]

This also gives another reason as to why Zira chose to attack the Pride Lands during the film. Because not only was Simba injured, but the Pride Lands’ greatest defenders were absent. So Zira knew she needed to attack right then before the Lion Guard returned.

[@yilishabai310]

Also kion stated that as long I'm around you are not welcome into the pridelands or the outlands which another reason why they choose to attack!

[@jayvonnoelsmith8445]

​@@yilishabai310yap true

[@dominiquewalker302]

@c.w.simpsomproductions1330. Exactly

[@pjaybihasa8838]

He's on the tree of life.. He stays there with the new queen

[@indranibiswas7007]

He is now the king of tree of life

[@kingcollector6362]

Queen Rani x King Kion so cute

[@tahasiraj5662]

xXLonelyGhostDekuXx ITS NOT

[@kingcollector6362]

@@tahasiraj5662 did I ask for your opinion no

[@flamenco929]

Yeah

[@fourcatsandagarden]

I laughed like, well, a hyena when Nala said "maybe you'll be home in time for Kiara's first hunt" Disney can be so cheeky sometimes

[@phattierattie]

Lol, nope! He’s gonna be gone for a loooong time

[@BLZ-rb7ij]

Nala... HE MISSED FRICKEN EVERYTHING, KIARA'S FIRST HUNT, THE BATTLE OF THE TWO PRIDES AND HER WEDDING, HER WEDDING!!

[@digifreak90]

@BL4Z3 He's gonna come back from his journey and find out that he's now an Uncle.

[@BLZ-rb7ij]

@@digifreak90 Uhhh uncle? is kovu a father?

[@germanyfirstamericanforste8179]

@@BLZ-rb7ij kion: mum should i be a evil lion with an overpowerd roar or a lion who miss her sister weddi but is king at at a tree and prince in this land

[@ima_lonelyhobo8336]

That isn’t actually how scar got his scar. It was his father who gave it to him after finding scar hanging around with the hyenas as a young cub. Scars name wasn’t even scar to begin with, it was Taka.

[@MonstehDinosawr]

YESSSS THE REAL LION KING LAWS

[@MonstehDinosawr]

And they ignored Kopa

[@ima_lonelyhobo8336]

MonstehDinosawr exactly!

[@poochyena124]

This is the one I accept as cannon. Lion guard made taka's story messy and mixed up.

[@user-sb5bh6qy6l]

Sabrina Miller scars real name is Askari named after the first lion guard leader

[@KiaraLionessTM]

I just want to say that they timed it perfectly well and fit in both stories well explaining why Kion was absent in the second lion king movie and when he only returned after the second movie when everyone was united it was an amazing timeline fit they did well explaining it and helping us understand where the lion guard was so well done Disney they nailed the time gap there

[@nighthowl2419]

It honestly wasnt hard to do. They literally could have said anything and everybody would have been like oH maKEs SenSe its cAnNon

[@gamingwarrior2765]

I used to to think it's because he wasn't born yet

[@error8119]

@@gamingwarrior2765 isn't he canonically the older one? Like he's the one we see born

[@gamingwarrior2765]

@@error8119 that's his sister

[@annaanimated1305]

He is Kiaras younger brother

[@jesuscoyt-munoz2753]

I’m glad this was explained since the beginning of the show a lot of fans claimed it to be, “uncanon,” but I’m glad it is canon and I feel like had Kion stayed Lion King 2 would’ve turned out very different had Kion let the venom corrupt him.

[@lindinle]

He didnt say in tlk2 because he was only thought of afterwards

[@gracekim9425]

The next Lion King movie would be Lion King 3: Kion's Return. And if it happened, Kion would be shocked to see Kiara with Kovu. Edit: I wrote this comment before I saw the ending. But I dont have Disney Junior or anything like that to watch it, so I didnt know until I found a KZbin vid. 2nd edit: I know its Lion King 4, I had comments on it a while ago and I get it, this comments from a week ago now, yes it is the third lion king movie I understand, through the whole list of comments you can see that I actually said that I forgot about it.

[@spartan6265]

Grace Kim I could imagine if kion see kovo meet kion again

[@colbysf1206]

I actually sent an idea of this to the animation studio in season 2 but i guess they never took the idea.

[@colbysf1206]

@@spartan6265 yea, I wonder what wpuld happen Kion seeing one of his former enemies.

[@darkblader1119]

And kiara being surprised he was with fuli

[@colbysf1206]

@@darkblader1119 well, technically they cant have kids but they are in a symbiotic relationship, so sure?

[@Princess-ee8rt]

The TRUE reason why Kion isn’t in the lion king 2 : Disney: didn’t bother to put him in the film . Years later made a show to make more money 💰🤑.

[@_loveableidiot]

Funny you sound like an idiot

[@brianfeuerman1732]

Disney doesn’t really make much money on this show. It’s not like people are paying them directly to watch it. They just pay TV providers and then the TV provider pays Disney a small amount.

[@mangobaum9870]

Im pretty sure Kion didnt even exist back then but they need more characters for that sweet sweet merch

[@t0nysalinas]

MythicalMeltan it’s true. You all are delusional and are denying a very obvious truth 😂

[@ryleestudios2184]

They only thought of him in 2016 , and they would make more money for the next 3 years

[@thesuperdupercoolsebassapl4426]

Kion and the rest of lion guard will definitely honestly will be a perfect awesome fit in the kingdom hearts series as a party member in soras team with his roar destroying a crazy ton of heartless and simba can still join in fun as well

[@nathaliedonado6770]

If he was doing that specifically during kiara’s first hunt then where was Kion at the beginning of Lion King two when kiara was little?

[@ahmedalani9518]

He wasnt born yet, he was born after kiara met kovu, nala just kept him at pride rock

[@julieryckaert7311]

Scar's backstory is all over the place... Edit: HOW DID THIS COMMENT END UP HAVING MORE THAN 600 LIKES?? Edit: Holy Jesus 1k likes???

[@carolinedisalvatore9768]

The whole Lion King story is all over the place

[@julieryckaert7311]

Caroline DiSalvatore Right?

[@carolinedisalvatore9768]

RandomGirlOnTheInternet Yeah...why?

[@julieryckaert7311]

Caroline DiSalvatore I was just agreeing with you

[@carolinedisalvatore9768]

RandomGirlOnTheInternet Well thank you because given how there are so many plot holes and inconsistencies throughout the lion king franchise (although I fully acknowledge that it’s not the only Disney franchise that suffers from this) and how the fandom tries their best to shoehorn in everything (even if a lot ideas and theories don’t make sense) I believe this is one of the biggest reasons if not THE biggest reason why the lion king fandom is so crazy(don’t deny or try to defend it cause it’s true)

[@madnessarcade7447]

The difference is kion is fighting the venom scar didn’t fight the venom If scar fought the venom he could have got healed from the tree of life Maybe it’s a reference idk

[@InternetCAWrestling]

Madness Arcade Scar already had like wanted the throne, which is why he listened to the strange lion about wisdom and power. The scar just sped things up.

[@madnessarcade7447]

InternetCAWrestling yes I know

[@mr.flimflamsdad1351]

scar didn't know, rafiki gave kion advice, no one get it to scar

[@cameoshadowness7757]

@@mr.flimflamsdad1351 he didn't look for advise.

[@avatareevee1238]

No. Remember the song, " How I Got My Scar" the strange lion healed him

[@Animal-mk2bx]

The ending of the lion guard makes sense because of the age adults are adults between 3-8 years. When male lions are 3 this is when they search for a new pride perhaps this another reason kion decided to stay with rani. So in season kion must be around 1 and a half years (since he’s younger than kiara but not a very young cub as we see flash back) and kiara is 2 which explains why she’s a cub when kion is but fully grown when he’s a older teenager at end of season 3. Kiara is only a few months older than kion.

[@cloutedchick5590]

Are you putting stuff on our head

[@justacommenter7939]

@@cloutedchick5590 ikr i have no idea what they just said, besides its a cartoon not real life year

[@taigaforest2009]

it'll make more sense if kiara was a year older than kion since female lions give birth to cubs born at the same time, not a few months after

[@testerwulf3357]

This is incorrect..male cubs are driven out at 3, they cannot take over a pride til about 5 years old or older; they're just maturing, not fully grown enough to be able to fight a fully matured lion with a pride at 3 years old (that's like saying a 12 year old could totally beat a 20 year old in a fight). They live nomadic lives til old enough to take over a pride!

[@antmichael2493]

Well I'm glad that explains why Kion wasn't in The Lion King II: Simba's Pride. He was at the Tree of Life with his friends to get his strength back.

[@justsomeokami8867]

Okay that’ll do for Kion, but if I’m honest Scar’s backstory on how he got his...well scar was still pretty underwhelming.

[@emmawiley2452]

Audrey Ivey Yeah. I personally like the theory that it was given to my by a water buffalo when he went to prove that he could be as good at something as Mufasa was at everything. That seems a bit more in character for him. I mean, Scar was smart. And then they have it like "oh, he got his scar because he was TRICKED" Like no, if anyone does tricking, it's Scar. Evil dude doesn't get tricked.

[@BabyGirlTiny]

Emma Wiley or, because she was young and full of himself it was easy to trick him. The same way it was easy for the hyena’s to trick scar in to thinking that Simba was actually dead

[@Nightwingdadragoness]

I’m just going to say that Scar was lying. Like he always does. That was his whole thing during the movie. That he lied about everything to Simba.

[@clarkepercivaljaeblood4886]

Why isn't anybody just "whelmed"?

[@Jessikupo]

@@emmawiley2452 it wasnt a theory, it was canon. it's in the lion king books. i don't know why it changed

[@madnessarcade7447]

Becoming like scar has been kions worst fear since the show started

[@Angryginger2421]

People have head canon that Kion doesn't accept the outsiders so he turns evil which I think he would do it not accepting them.

[@madnessarcade7447]

Haylea Addison he does though

[@madnessarcade7447]

Accept them

[@Angryginger2421]

@@madnessarcade7447 Guessing you watched rest of the lion guard episodes? I haven't watched rest of the episodes yet going to now. That was before Lion guard finale people think that he wouldn't accept them.

[@nicoleevonnegalan2660]

Thought that was simbas fear of being like his uncle

[@jez397]

Kion looked through the river and when I looked at the details I remembered when Scar roared at his lion guard and then The Rock was broken in half and in the details in the background Kion has The Rock broken behind him

[@KwasiAfriyie-dc5jo]

The reason why kion didn't appear in lion king 2 was because: 1.kiara meeting kovu happened before he was born 2.zira and her outlanders attacking the pridelands happened while kion was at the tree of life.

[@maggiehydeck8182]

I hope Kion keeps the Scar, because he looks pretty boss with it.

[@laurenhodges6411]

I don't think he has a choice. Some scars stay for life.

[@GrandCorsair]

But then both him and Kovu would have scars. It would make for a awkward conversation between the two. Kion: Scar?! Kovu: ughhhh...

[@Indieboo55]

Kion: I thought you were dead , Scar Kovu : I'M NOT SCAR I'M HIS ADOPTED SON KOVU Kiara : Boys.... Kion : Well at least I'm not adopted by that jerk Kiara : Boys ... Kovu : WELL AT LEAST I'M NOT A RED MANE LIKE YOU Kiara : Boys ... Kion : WELL AT LEAST I GET TO BE THE LEADER OF THE LION GAURD Kiara: BOYS !!!!!!!!! * Both look at Kiara * Kiara : Can you both do me a favour ? Kovu : Yes Princess ? Kion : Yes Dearest Sister ? * wacks both of them * Kiara : I NEED YOU GUYS TO SHUT UP * Leaves * Both: * Wow * Edit :Wow thanks tbh I've never had this many likes thanks for the likes

[@Toothless_On_Toast]

But it makes roar not be able to be controlled

[@arachnesakura9375]

hasnt Kion met Kovu... I'm sure after a moment he'd recognize him

[@calebartboy7620]

After LK2, kion comes back Kion: what did I miss? Kiara: EVERY THING!!!!!!!!!!!

[@user-sb5bh6qy6l]

Caleb Artboy Kion: so what did I miss kiara:wellllll I was almost burned to death I was saved by an outlander named Kovu we fell in love Zira kovus mom tried to kill us but fell into a river her pride betrayed her anddddd I got married Kovu:is that it Kiara:yea that’s about it Kion:....I WAS GONE FOR LIKE 2 WEEKS AND THIS HAPPENS!?!?

[@kaifowlkes382]

Lol tbh

[@nicname3147]

This is basically what happens. Kion even asks where Zira is and Kovu and Kiara are just like: Um...she dead

[@noramuesco5262]

Lol

[@WillReturnSoon]

Kion : Oh

[@fableSimmer]

3:02 - 3:07 He lives in you. He lives in me. He watches over, everything we see. Into the water. Into the truth. In your reflection, he lives in you.

[@theeverythingkid]

Isn't the he lives in you the song used for TLK2 on Kiara birth

[@halg3625]

You're such a cheerful fellow, I really enjoyed this video. I had no idea the studio for The Lion Guard put in the effort to tie all the stories together. Great job on the summary!

[@uniwolfgamer1094]

Did you ever wonder why Zira's lions weren't part of scar's army?

[@silverfire1248]

I think it’s because they were roared even farther out and Zira was too focused on raising Kovu to explore

[@uniwolfgamer1094]

@@silverfire1248 What do you mean by 'roared' ?

[@silverfire1248]

Uniwolf gamer he used the roar on them and the force sent them flying

[@uniwolfgamer1094]

@@silverfire1248 Ohhh ya that makes much more sense 🤔😀

[@doremilayles]

Also, Scar wants power for himself. Even if he tricked them into helping him get back in power there would always be the threat of Kovu wanting to take over when he matured.

[@joshuamerriweather2861]

I am big fan of the Lion King and your videos Issac

[@OzzyDrixClay]

Where are all Humans . maybe the tree of Life is a vet

[@Toothless_On_Toast]

@@OzzyDrixClay circle

[@run2cat4run]

Even the lion guard?

[@bigstelad]

Isaac not issac. Maybe his is but I’m going off how my names spelt so don’t take this as complete fact

[@avatareevee1238]

Kion Didn't Die In His Youth. He wasn't born when Kiara and Kovu met, and then wasn't mentioned, died while protecting the Pride Lands, or just left while doing that.

[@zxida7272]

I thought he's still alive but just forced to go to the tree of life because the snake gave him a scar to make him evil lmao

[@jenniemurphy1811]

What is your name

[@jenniemurphy1811]

Please right to me

[@Vixen1409]

If I'm correct there was a brief show of him in the lion guard I think it was one episode he mentioned that he met Kiara awhile ago kion didnt know that

[@Closedcase437]

Ap

[@BovineDesigns]

"Scar's resurrected spirit" Excuse me whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?

[@rikkuwolf4166]

I’ve always questioned why the didn’t introduce Kion AFTER the events of Lion King 2. Why couldn’t she have a much younger brother? I can think of many adventures he could have in addition to the ones he would have still in the show. It just seemed like an overly complicated choice.

[@thepandabookkeeper3180]

It would've made them playing up his relation to scar make more sense too, because if he's Kovu's son he'd look more like Scar n' whatnot.

[@cutedemonuwu6648]

And why your profile photo scares me ;-;

[@thepandabookkeeper3180]

It could also add more interesting plots; maybe Scar AND Zira's ghosts show up, and perhaps they start causing unrest in the pridelands by convincing animals that Kovu, his son, and Kiara by corruption/association, would one day turn back to Scar's ways or something because he looks like it (not to mention that animals probably wouldn't have trusted him right away after the events of the 2nd movie, let alone his son) and the lion guard being comprised of different animals could show that every creature should unite. Also, the hyenas could still come back, but some (Janja n his crew) ave a distrust/stigma against lions because of Scar. I dunno tho

[@buster3041]

Yeah it is an odd choice. I mean i love seeing what simba having a son or daughter is like instead of just one over the other. But giving him a daughter first was a nice change and we didn't spend too much time on young simba or kiara so the childish crap wasn't a big repellent. But it feels so odd giving kion the role of simba's son instead of kovu and kiara's because the writing possibilities feel hindered and restricted. Now you have to do all this mumbo jumbo nonsense about character inconsistencies, where did this character come from, where was this character go during x part of lion king 2 etc. When all of that could have been avoided by simply having the series take place after lion king 2.

[@actualgarbage8549]

@@cutedemonuwu6648 Because you're 8?

[@mastercontrO]

I'm sorry but it may be canon but I don't accept this as Scar's Origin.

[@mastercontrO]

@@tessb.lichtman4547 I'm aware but for me I won't accept this as Scar's Origin they could've done way better but that's the great thing about fan interpretations but that's just me.

[@madnessarcade7447]

abdul doumbia too bad

[@madnessarcade7447]

abdul doumbia it’s a unique idea

[@mastercontrO]

@@madnessarcade7447 If you like the idea then good on you dude.

[@nicoleackerman205]

Scar can be like the Joker that he has a different scar origin story anytime he needs one.

[@Nini_lla]

Am I the only one who still wonders what append to kopa( simba's first child)?

[@wolffisu]

I always thought, as a kid especially, that the tree of life from Disneyworld was that of Rafiki's tree in The Lion King. I have no idea how little me figured that out, other than the species of tree being the same, but it feels even more fitting now with The Lion Guard mythos.

[@TIGER-xk4gk]

I'm glad that the show managed to keep all continuity of the first two films together without any errors

[@sizzler9731]

Actually they did, in TLK 2, Kovu met Kiara when he lived in these badlands, In the Lion Guard, Kovu somehow knew Kiara before they lived at the badlands.

[@AlfieTrevor4444]

@@sizzler9731 also apparently the Termite Mounds are not part of the Outlands despite the second movie clearly stated they are

[@alidennis1770]

There are so many errors

[@notso_cody]

@@sizzler9731 that part is a plot hole and didn't make any sense

[@sonicOG1]

​@@sizzler9731 if you saw in LK2 when kiara first met kovu as cub then it happened times kip as you saw they grew up that time skip was skiping out LG story

[@caffeecup5319]

I bet Isaac is actually working for Disney to tie in plot holes

[@content8432]

@Yash Vora what makes you mad

[@genoxdgaming5040]

@Yash Vora Uhh are you OK?

[@amaris152]

@Yash Vora u good bro?

[@mutantsandmemes]

It's actually because @Yash Vora is a Disney mod and is mad that their secrets are being revealed.

[@Sksiwixiekasks]

heck yes! even if someone doesn't watch him and only watched a vid of him once could tell bc of his big Disney collection behind him

[@BHDVMG96]

I didn't expect to much about this serie, insted it became one of my favorites

[@carlatajones3169]

i loved the opening to the final season of the lion guard. it was a grate movie. and i loved how it gave an really grate insight to scars past before simba was born. i loved how the explained on how scar was a good lion before his fated down fall. i had always wondered how he got his scar since the first movie. and i figured as a kid they done it to show he was evil but now 24 years later they tell how he got it. 24 years to late but i love it non the less and i cant wait for the rest of season 3 of TLG to start up. i only seen promos for the last season and they all look grate. ^^

[@imjustheretovibe2267]

Kion is interesting, but haven't you ever wondered why kovu and lion have a bitmof mane as cubs while Simba has not a strand of mane? Edit: Omg DA LIKES! TYSM!!!!

[@kurai_sen7065]

It could be because Simba was a lot younger when we saw him in TLK

[@imjustheretovibe2267]

@@kurai_sen7065 oh yeah lol but still BRING ON DA EARLY FACIAL HAIR

[@Peetaleem]

Even Zazu said “Why I’ve never seen the king of beasts with quite so little hair.” In ‘just can’t wait to be king’ 😂

[@cinnamondavis345]

If you pay attention to the scene where Timon pumba and Simba are singing hakuna matata he's growing up and it shows the little bit of mane like kions for a short minute. And also in lion King 11/2 it shows him beginning to get a mane in that

[@darklegend24]

Early puberty?

[@robloxking2578]

I hope Kion can be cured. More importantly, I hope Kion can stay true to himself. ; )

[@munkustrapjr2574]

I hope Kion gets cured too! I hate to imagine what would happen if he wasn't.

[@yawppy2447]

Kion is like boruto the sucky son lmao

[@gamingwithblazerplayz2906]

Nah i hope he doesnt get cured

[@g0n_ta800]

I kind wish kion WILL NOT GET CURED he suks xD

[@oliviazito8636]

Roblox King Well as it is of course it will happened, it would be great to see if he doesn’t get cured, threatens his family and the Lion Guard and then réalisé what he has done then gets cured because he caught it on his own.

[@WillReturnSoon]

I think Kion will come back after The Lion King 2 and these are the words that his parents and sister are going to say - Kion : I've just returned and what did I miss ? Kiara : Uhhhhhhh everything . Kion : ....................... Kovu : What the heck ????????? Kion : It's me . Kovu : Who ????????? Kion : It's me Kion Kovu : Came back huh Kion : Yep so what's going on here ???? Kiara : Uhhhhh nothing . Kion : .............................. Also Kion : Who is this ??????????? Kiara : This is my daughter Leah . Kion : How are mom and dad ??? Kiara : They're fine but dad got killed by Zira and her lionesses and me and Kovu will have to defeat her once in for all . Kion : She's back again I thought she was dead but how did she come back ??????????????????????? Kiara : I don't know dad has seen her alive so he must know . Kion : Can I help in defeating her ????? Kiara : Sure but the war hasn't begin.

[@huzaifasiddiqui1624]

Who’s seeing this after season 3 of lion guard when kion returns from the tree of life to the pridelands and accepts kovu into the pride but he realizes that the pridelands was no longer his home and he becomes the king of the tree of life along with queen rani

[@user-nl2xz2hi3x]

Kion gave the Roar to Vitani because he wanted to master it completely. He would never have left the Guard that way. And not because he wants to go back to the Tree of life and misses Rani. Once he realized that the Pridelands were no longer his home, he should have immediately given the Roar to Vitani in the cave. But Kion has taken up the challenge of Kion wanted to reclaim their position. Then Kion remembered the roar and gave it to him. And went to Rani

[@sonicx24cool51]

Does this mean the Lion Guard season 3 will end with Kion and his friends as adults and returning to the Pride lands as adults and they see Kovu, Vitani, and the Outsiders lions now in peace on Pride rock?

[@SimbasGuardWT]

That is what I'm hoping for.

[@sonicx24cool51]

@@SimbasGuardWT it be a cool callback to the Lion King 2

[@sonicx24cool51]

@Sayhan Muksed Yeah, I loved the second movie

[@SimbasGuardWT]

@@sonicx24cool51 Yeah I would really like that. Lt would also give us a gimps of something Post Lion King 2.

[@RuiOnii]

It will be cool if kion become evil and theatends his family and the lion guard, then get cured and then realise what he as done.

[@CourageBlueAnderson]

It finally makes sense now 🤦🏾‍♂️... That's why he was never in Lion King 2... Thank you for explaining this cuz I was confused for a very long time 🤦🏾‍♂️😂😂😂

[@sneakysnake1558]

Courage Blue Anderson yeah and I’m lion king 2 that’s what they were doing whilst going kion was going to the tree of life but doesn’t make sense if nuka died or kovu got his scar from zira or if zira dies oh yeah when kovu vitani zira and nuka met kion kion was younger so it could be that eh ok

[@willjackson9447]

Courage Blue Anderson I don’t mean to be that guy but kion wasn’t in lion king 2 because his character didn’t exist in 1998. I like to think of the lion guard as an alternate reality. It’s not canon with the original movies. (1, 2, 1 and a half)

[@CourageBlueAnderson]

@@willjackson9447 honestly that's what I was going for at first but sense they want to keep going with this then this video explains it all 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@willjackson9447]

Courage Blue Anderson lol yeah. I guess. My comment was mainly directed at the person you were replying to 😂 I don’t comment on KZbin so I don’t know how it works exactly lol lion king is still my all time favorite Disney movie. My childhood. To ME people calling this canon makes me feel sick lol cute show though

[@CourageBlueAnderson]

@Nicholas C tbh I don't really care for the lion guard all like that 🤷🏾‍♂️ I just wanted to know where the hell it came from and how it supposedly came from the amazing Lion King movies 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@TFF_Onida]

when you referred to the description as "below the like button" i died inside

[@cheralewhite8253]

Look I loved the Lion King, the first movie. And I give Disney credit for keeping the family and ball going with Lion King 2 and the whole Lion Guard series. But let's face facts, in real time male lion cubs have to grow up and make their own pride. All the adventuring and finding cures for Kion and what not, is great storytelling. But in real time, Kion did some roaming and found his mate to have other cubs with. There would never have been a second and true Lion King, as Simba was already it, after losing his father and taking out Scar. Only one true male for the Pride. And even with Kovu entering the picture, that again was not really what the lineage was about quite yet. As that would mean, it would be time for the end of Simba's reign. So Disney, had to add out more storytelling aspects, to keep it interesting. But for those of us, that have seen any sort of Discovery Channel or nature show, knows that there are not that many male lions in one pride like that, once they reach a certain age.

[@testerwulf3357]

Lion king isn't exactly based on reality. Kion never had to leave, they wouldn't of forced him, he just found somewhere he was happier being

[@cheralewhite8253]

@@testerwulf3357 For a kids show no, you wouldn't see that. For life in a real pride, is a different story.

[@deshawnedwards6412]

Do the Full Backstory of Mrs. Flynn and Mr. Fletcher, Phineas, Ferb, and Candace parents from Phineas and Ferb.

[@assassin2d88]

stfu child

[@RedRacc]

@@assassin2d88 boi shut yo dumbass up

[@user-sb5bh6qy6l]

UNITED STATES OF AMERICAA u can’t even spell America right so I suggest u shut up

[@compdbdpro69]

Deshawn Edwards I wouldn’t consider this a backstory, but I’m pretty sure that Phineas and Ferb died somehow, Candace went insane, and she created a world where they both were still alive, having adventures and stuff.

[@compdbdpro69]

Lord Tirek You can’t even write a damn sentence to maybe apply that to yourself? Go back to kindergarten, hm?

[@alfredhinton9962]

I’d like a xehanort and organization xiii video

[@morganeverley7360]

Yup!

[@randomfandom9459]

Thank you for this comment

[@laperra5542]

Alfred Hinton i made this 180

[@princesspikachu3915]

Xehanort became "good" at the end of the KH3 because he was able to accept the fact that he is in love-ish with Eraqis (sorry if I spelled it wrong) and was able to be with his friend and float off to the afterlife or something like that. Best Disney bromance ever.

[@justadragonnamemarcus1751]

Lion guard in kingdom hearts 4!

[@justrudyy]

Kion wasn't in the lion King because he was on his journey to get healed from the scar he got so he wouldn't be evil I wrote this during a diaper "ad Pull•Ups" So yeah I thought of this same comment 3 hours ago!!!

[@faizafox7333]

Actually Kion went to the tree of life to get his scar cured even ono from the eyes

[@daituro]

The REAL reason: Kion wasn’t invented yet

[@killingeveedits8228]

BB#Bernice no he wasn’t TLK2 was made in like 1998 and TLG was in 2016-17 and no one had created Kion during TLK2 But was added to TLK story years later so Daituro is right

[@killingeveedits8228]

BB#Bernice Jesus Christ why you get so triggered about it fucking hell whatever turra luv 😂

[@killingeveedits8228]

BB#Bernice you swear so why can’t I? I wasn’t even trying to be rude to you in the first place I was just saying :|

[@killingeveedits8228]

BB#Bernice definitely older then you I saw your channel and I’m for sure older lol, if anything you shouldn’t be swearing

[@killingeveedits8228]

BB#Bernice well I swore bf I knew I was older and you keep telling me to piss off and where I’m from that is a swear word, plus you have been rude to me since I first commented and I don’t no why, I have not intended to be rude or bossy but ok, ur probably a child who doesn’t understand yet, but whatever have a nice life don’t contact me again if all your gonna do is spread hate thanks and goodbye

[@zohairmapara8890]

You always tell good storys.

[@laraduff4949]

How much more obvious could it be? The character of Kion wasn’t invented until long after The Lion King 2 was released, and that’s why he’s not in the movie. By the time The Lion Guard was released, they had to come up with a reason for his absence, which was Kion being away at the Tree of Life

[@adammartinez8061]

Yup. There were no intentions of spin offs at that time. Disney’s biggest focuses at the time. -Tarzan, they just got done with Mulan months ago. -Sequels.

[@musicallydisneyamvs6731]

Also explains why & where the hyenas went, and such.

[@abigaildeeks8328]

Jessi_YT the outlands are a big place. The area where Zira lived was a termite hill

[@lemonfir6i692]

It is fake

[@musicallydisneyamvs6731]

KANYANTA MWANSA Hmm ya maybe

[@anoukmccarthy9675]

What if Kion met Kopa on his journey and the family is reunited again? That would be so cool

[@MonstehDinosawr]

Yeah everyone forgets Kopa.

[@MonstehDinosawr]

@Kali Cardin Kopa... and no she didnt. He returns to be with Vitani. He never died, just severely injured

[@MonstehDinosawr]

@Kali Cardin Lmao they thought he died... he didnt. He was severely injured. He returned when his sister became queen

[@MonstehDinosawr]

@Kali Cardin no im fucking not lol Kapa didnt die from Zira, she just fucking severely mauled him. He comes back though after learning to survive alone.

[@user-sb5bh6qy6l]

MonstehDinosawr why did he decide to only return then? That makes no sense it’s why I hate kopa’s story

[@Maria-qy5mw]

they didn't let kaira go out alone but they let kion go on a dangerous journey. 😂😂

[@Crystalsky5155]

yeh but kiara is free in the lion guard she even got in danger ther

[@user-oi7vo6sr1b]

Isaac dude your observation is amazing

[@MusokeMagic]

YOU NOW WHAT I WANT LION KING 4! Somebody please make a sign petition

[@yaerain6821]

But picturing lion king with 3d animation seems awful ngl

[@aimlessalix8066]

It could be lion king 2 ½

[@nicname3147]

What about Lion King 3?

[@MusokeMagic]

Oh yeah yes m8

[@Twinklethefox9022]

Hold up, there's not a lion king 3.

[@dodgerfinnboltbalto2593]

7:15 “To proserve his humanity-“ HE’S A FREAKING LION XD

[@fritzhopper5145]

Lion King 2 is in 1998, however Kion's first appearance in The Lion Guard Return Of the Roar was in 2015.

[@karmageezah4987]

Go to a journey to preserve his humanity Yeah he is a human alright

[@NickiPlague]

You know why I like watching your videos? Because you're one of the only Disney Theory KZbinrs who actually uses Disney Junior shows. Other people just pretend like they don't exist in Disney Canon it makes me so happy to see anyone actually use them. Having said that if you have any other theories about Sofia the First I'd be so super stoked to listen to/watch them...

[@nicky_creates2763]

Fr

[@emberstep9469]

Because the lion guard was a random "Hey we can still make money from the lion king" project (in my opinion)

[@reviewing_kingdomyt6614]

No in season 3 it explains that he was at the tree of life during lion king 2 to find a Cure for his Scar that a snake gave him. And when he returned The Hyhenas where already in the Pridelands after Lion king 2.

[@LaunchFoxes]

@@reviewing_kingdomyt6614 but why does simba or ANYONE make no reference of him?

[@Yaii_Ram3n]

@@LaunchFoxes Because he was gone for a while

[@LaunchFoxes]

@@Yaii_Ram3n well you would think at least Simba would remember him like "Oh yeah I have a son who has been gone for a while with a very powerful ability" I mean Simba was about to go to war with another group of lions in the movie so why didn't he even consider sending someone to bring Kion back

[@Yaii_Ram3n]

@@LaunchFoxes You do have a point

[@thenerdbeast7375]

On the one hand, I think the Lion Guard would have been better as a post Lion King 2 series as it would make the timeline neater. On the other however, with how strong the pride was at the end of Lion King 2 would the Lion Guard really have been needed?

[@user-qu6xp3jq4c]

The old Lion Guard (Kion's guard) could still have stayed in the Pride lands even if there was a strong pride at the end of Lion King 2. But since they were invited by Rani to be members of the Night Pride and were in need there, and not least, that the Roar originated from the Tree of Life, it made sense to join the Nigh Pride as residents of the Tree of Life. This represents a happy ending particularly for Bunga and Kion who both found mates/partners who are residents of the Tree of Life. But of course, within the film universe, anything can happen next. Kion could return to the Pride Lands with Rani following him in its time of crisis, which is what the whole Lion King franchise focuses on.

[@itstheundisputedsagboo]

Thanx Isaac, You're So Awesome! 👏🏾👏🏾💃🏾

[@moviemelody2210]

I don’t like how Disney makes more characters that are not in the movies just so they can make more money. I love your videos though

[@aliyahshoulders60]

This better led to "The Lion King 3: Kion's Return" with the original voice cast and all. A story of a family reuniting which led to a scaring betrayal.

[@aiyenolobia2179]

That would be awsome

[@iamnothuman77dartdontlie66]

Maybe they could also find a way to make Kopa canon. One can dream but now all Disney is doing is live action remakes so I doubt it

[@itzceleste2723]

I don’t think it’ll happen, Kion is the king of the tree of life. He can’t just leave forever and forget about his mate! Sorry to break it to you but Kion will only visit he won’t return to just live there

[@kylemccabe1863]

Who would betray them

[@user-qu6xp3jq4c]

@@itzceleste2723 Kion and Rani could move together to the Pride Lands... if Kion had to return to fight a battle... but this time against an any greater enemy than what the Pride Lands has faced before.

[@DinosaurNick]

I love how this is answered now .... but yet this year old vid is just now in my notifications ...

[@blueberryjuice631]

I didn’t know that there was a lion king with “kion” and “kiara” I’ve only Seen the one with simba, mufasa, Sarabi, nala, scar and scars gf

[@HouseOfGuardians]

I think I know what happened. Kion’s journey took a year or a little more or little less, by the time Kion came back to the Pridelands, the lions of the Outlands were together with the Pridelanders. The reason why I think that is because of a future episode called Return To The Pridelands. The main purpose of this episode is that when Kion and the Lion Guard return to the Pridelands, Vitani has assembled her own Lion Guard in their absence. That’s what I think at least. I think there’s a big chance that this theory may happen.

[@GrandCorsair]

Adult lions are 3 years old assuming his sister is full grown by the end of LK 2.

[@cynthia4lyfe103]

Why Vitani? The lion guard is led by the second born child of the king, who is still Simba at that point. Unless he has another child they won't have a lion guard leader, and that child won't receive the roar as Kion is still alive

[@HouseOfGuardians]

Cynthia4lyfe, then why is one of the future episodes in the Lion Guard about Vitani forming her own Lion Guard? But I could be wrong. I’m just guessing.

[@digicrraft-minecraftmore2886]

Vitani is technically the second-born as well.

[@williamburke8242]

@@digicrraft-minecraftmore2886 My dad and I have the same color circle like yours!

[@robertlee6975]

“..to perserve his humanity..” er.. you mean “lionity”? I’m sorry.. i can’t help it.. i just had to say it :))

[@mattbartels]

Let's just say sanity.

[@popff7]

``Robert Lee, You have been exiled from this series`` [LOL JK]

[@scarletfox7080]

You have the perfect sense of humer to lighten up this battle ground of a comment section

[@ghanig9948]

@@mattbartels Ah yes the negotiator

[@Tre-Uzi-Low]

The reason scar wasn’t in lion king 2 He was healing his wounds

[@lilycrossing2059]

Kion is the one who went to the tree of life during lion king 2

[@lorikeffer6339]

I believe that Kion will be successful in his quest to find the Tree of Life and cure himself in time,before the venom takes affect. He will return to help the Pride Lands again.

[@user-qu6xp3jq4c]

He was successful... and not only that... found a beautiful mate!

[@howsentimental]

I liked this show at first but when Scar showed up it just got ridiculous.

[@milagigante219]

Kion getting the scar and constantly questioning his thoughts and actions because of scar is the equivalent of experiencing OCD and intrusive thoughts. Lol I don't think this was Disney's point but I'm just connecting my dots here XD

[@archanahumane3352]

Scar forgot the difference between good and evil because of the venom

[@myrastarsingers4265]

You make nice videos 😊

[@scarletfox7080]

Actually, in the last episode of the lion guard, He stayed near the tree of life ruling his own kingdom as king ( I forgot the name of the queen). So more than likely he wasn't in lion king 2 because he was busy with his kingdom

[@godstenrules]

Queen Rani is his mate

[@scarletfox7080]

@@godstenrules Thanks! I never did get too much into the series so I wasn't quite sure of her name

[@godstenrules]

@@scarletfox7080 you're welcome, i used to watch it, but didn't watch the whole series, now I'm just watching videos of the lion guard on youtube to see what happened.

[@user-qu6xp3jq4c]

But he only becomes King right at the very end of the series. He was still not yet a King during the battle of the Pride Lands between the Outlander and Pridelander lions.

[@swiggityswooty2720]

What if at the end of the season we'll see the lion guard all grown up return to the pride lands where lion king 2 left off if the lion guard ever plans to come back by the end of the season🤔🤔

[@WhiteKoneko]

Sadly they confirmed this season is the final one.

[@weshayes553]

Lion king two is a masterpiece even with the reduced budget. If LK2 got a full theatrical release then I think we would have a lot more answers but unfortunately it got the Disney sequel treatment.

[@SimbasGuardWT]

I have always felt that Lion King 2 should have been a Theatrical movie. I love the movie , but it definitely would have benefited from more development time.

[@Ns-dy4vz]

I am going to miss the lion guard fingers crossed dinsey makes more seasons of it

[@Moooss3]

I didn't know I needed this. XD

[@calebartboy7620]

Kion: I forgive you! Scar: BOI I KILLED YOUR GRAND FATHER!!! Kion: I still forgive you!

[@user-sb5bh6qy6l]

Caleb Artboy scar:AGFJAUDDIDJEVDIEJENDGDUS

[@saturn6563]

WHAT A TRICK LOL KION WOULD REALLY FALL FOR THAT

[@noramuesco5262]

Lol

[@E3XTR3ME]

XD SO TRUE! I wish that happened in the real lion guard not gonna lie 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@CallMeDX]

XD

[@TheAncientdragon1]

I don't know if this is true, but there's a description of a future episode that hints at the possibility that an episode takes place after Simba's Pride. Hopefully this is true.

[@rileygshep7606]

Yes it is true. The final episode of season 3 called return to the pride lands

[@ecd1232]

Kion wasn’t born at the first part at the battle and after he was at the tree of life

[@Shego]

That’s explains The Lion King 2 Simba’s Pride second half. Lion and his friends journeys far to the Tree of Life to get healed while Kiara’s growing up in the Pridelands.

[@biancabrooks280]

I wonder if they will perhaps find humans on their journey to the Tree of Life? Like, nature preservationists. Animal rescue. Something like that. And maybe they’d have to deal with poachers. Nah, probably too dark for Lion Guard.

[@460Dylan]

that actually would be really awesome except the fact that the poachers wouldn't be willing to team up with the leopards and komodo's, so they would be separate from them.

[@nicoleackerman205]

Put this on regular Disney.

[@wolfstar9429]

That is basically Kimba the White Lion.

[@princesspikachu3915]

Not too dark per say but too close to Kimba The White Lion which is already debated whether or not Lion King ripped off. It's mostly a weeaboo topic but I suspected it before I knew that Kimba was an anime because I was aware it was first. My 58 year old mother grew up on Kimba as a kid and I heard many of her rants on the subject. TBH I don't have patience for rip offs especially if they deny the inspiration. On the one hand I kinda liked the Lion King and have seen the sequels and spin offs, but on the other hand it doesn't mention it's inspiration. Kimba The White Lion was itself a rip off of Bambi but at least it acknowledges that it took direct inspiration and at least Kimba is a different species than Bambi. Dare I mention that the "let's eat bugs instead of the side kicks" is also taken directly from Kimba? In Kimba, Kimba also had a daughter and a son named Rune and Rukio (though that is in the series where Kimba is called Leo). Lion Guard is actually much closer to the feel of Kimba though and it's hard on me because I really liked Kimba's story better and with the Lion Guard being closer in message and tone I both hate it and love it because it's more of what made Kimba the better series in the first place. Yeah, I disliked the Lion King but I have a love hate issue with Lion Guard. Especially since Kion is Lion with a "K" like how Kimba got it's English name because Leo and Simba were considered unoriginal so they put a "K" on Simba to make a more original name back in the 1960's. I don't know if Disney is giving the Kimba series a big middle finger or making an apologetic nod that they can't do out right and that just bothers me more....

[@Animal-mk2bx]

I think it takes place after the human era because otherwise why is there no mention of humans or a human ruling?

[@kiarrapyefinch8571]

I look forward to your Lion king videos, it still baffles me that they made Kion an addition to Simbas family all theses years later but so far I have found Kions story very interesting thus far. Your videos make me enjoying that much more! ☺️❤️

[@dillondavis6952]

So this explains why kion wasn’t in the lion king 2 he has focus on his mission to be going to the tree of life to heal up his scar right after he got bitten by oshari he’d lost control of the roar so he has to go to the tree on life to heal up his scar, now this explained everything!

[@user-do6un2pm8s]

That was a neat clean up they did to explain his disappearance in the movie

[@Priderockstarlion]

YAY THANKS FOR EXPLAINING ABOUT THIS Wotzo!! ❤️❤️I felt sad that Kion wasn’t there for Kiara and his Mom and Dad

[@OzzyDrixClay]

Relate this where are the humans . maybe the tree of life is a vet

[@Priderockstarlion]

Ozzy&Drix2001 Clay Hmm maybe

[@jemsofwisdom4632]

I'm just wondering what the hell happened when he got home to find kovu, and vitani and the other former outlanders roaming freely in the pridelands. How would you feel if you left tour home knowing that certain people weren't allowed in the came home to find that they basically joined your family. It must have been a real shock for kion

[@user-qu6xp3jq4c]

Yes, probably a real shock which he needed to take time to adjust to. And it might be a good idea for him to return to the Tree of Life and live there for a while with Rani, until things stabilise and they together return to the Pride Lands.

[@bloodwolf9795]

There became a new lion guard in the pridlands so kions team become the night guard of the free of life which I just hated thE he left his homd

[@Monstermania101]

Why is this actually so brilliant

[@SpecklesTeeV]

Yeah Kion went to the tree of life in Season 3 and gave up the Lion Guard to Vitani but he still has the roar because he mastered it

[@348tacos7]

If the Lion Guard continues (idk I don't follow it) it should end with Kion being grown and returning after the war with Zira ended

[@micksilva7374]

Better if he and his friends got captured and remained in a zoo.

[@CupcaketheRabbit]

@@micksilva7374 Sounds too much like Madagascar lmao.

[@348tacos7]

@@CupcaketheRabbit just about to say

[@nicname3147]

That's pretty much how it does end. He even sees Kovu and Vitani again. My only probably is that even though he is any adult, he wasn't animated like one

[@user-qu6xp3jq4c]

@@micksilva7374 But there are no humans in the whole Lion King universe!

[@ChazWalser]

Think Kion might show up some time after the war against Zira comes to an end?

[@nicname3147]

He does. He even sees Vitani and Kovu again.

[@user-qu6xp3jq4c]

@@nicname3147 Zira died though. Perhaps in a future Lion King film, Zira appears as a ghost... or it turns out that she had been alive all that time when the Pridelanders thought she was dead and seeks revenge... and is far worse than Scar.

[@XxnaughtyboyXx]

Amazing!!

[@petemander9159]

Kion was travelling to the tree of life

[@copperfurredfox]

15 minutes up 2100+ views 336 likes 57 comments Well done mate!

[@KitaraStrife]

SOOO happy that they gave us a reason for Kion and his friends not being there during the events of LK2! Now I just need to actually watch this show myself as, despite it being aimed at little kids, it seems to have good plot points and engage adults just as much as the intended audience--probably knowing that most of the kids watching will be from parents who grew up with the original movies.

[@victorbergman9169]

Excellent video

[@_.El._]

I am not a Disney fan by any means but I love your videos and breakdowns of the movies. Loved the Lion King 1 & 2 when I was a kid