The TRUE Story Of Donald & Douglas

[@CerberiRedWolf]

One of my favorite fun facts about old school TTTE is the angry face for the Spiteful Brakevan is on a Truck in Percy's peridicment.

[@thomaspixarmarvelfan]

There is a theory speculating that the spiteful brakeman was rebuilt into a truck seeing as how this episode takes place after Donald and Douglas.

[@Monacomaverick]

Donald and Douglas are two of my favorite engines just because of their design alone. Carlin's portrayal seals the deal.

[@legogonegaming]

I love the old Thomas and Friends because the connection that it had with real life gave it realism and emotion unlike the new ones. I enjoyed that part of my childhood and would sit down and watch them again any day.

[@nathanbundy5651]

ThomasHDClassics has the first 6-7 seasons in their entirety. I watch them every so often

[@caramelldansen2204]

It's really cool how the characters have an accent that would fit if Sodor existed, which is also my own accent. Big realism, and great representation. The fact there even is a US narration fucks me up. Why can't you just deal with our accent? We can't avoid yours.

[@Fomo_172]

Thomas

[@drdecent9104]

Douglas: Runs into breakvan* Also Douglas: :D

[@gregkiteos1936]

Cart?

[@tobbs5410]

He was also grinning to himself when they haul the brakevan's disembodied and battered face. 'I'll fookin' do it ageen.'

[@jaddere6149]

he killed the spiteful breakvan

[@rokamayono2312]

And Edward pulls up next to him like 😁

[@DangerAngelous]

The thumbnail screams “You murdered him didn’t you?” Said Edward “I.. I did’nay mean to” said Douglas “Thats alright” said Edward. “Accidents happen”

[@scottishtwinstudios]

Underrated comment.

[@fishpop]

"Now and again, even just by chance..."

[@BriceInkling138]

"You are my next death victim." Edward said quietly. "Whot tha' !?" Douglas cried. DOUGLAS GETS KILLED TO EDWARD AND FUCKING DIES!

[@rokamayono2312]

“I’ve had my own fair share of accidents back in the day you know. You see one time-“

[@alihdiacaria8566]

Brake van is now a gost 🥜

[@kubaskaproductions4159]

This was one of my all time favorite episodes growing up. Donald and Douglas are two of my most favorite characters and George Carlin was dead on with the voices. He nailed those Scottish accents spot on.

[@whisperingwaterfall01]

Ikr

[@sirrliv]

A couple more fun facts about Donald & Douglas: 1. The Rev. W. Awdry's numbers for them, 57646 and (presumably) 57647, are fictional but are in line with their real life basis, the ex-Caledonian Railway 812 Class. The highest number given to a real 812 by British Railways was 57645, so Donald & Douglas would have been the next youngest members of the class had they been built. 2. The numbering is also pertinent as the 812 Class, first built in 1899, were being withdrawn from service and sent for scrap when Donald & Douglas' debut book, "The Twin Engines", was published in 1960; the last 812 would be withdrawn in 1963. This explains their paranoia of being sent back to the "Other Railway" (read: BR) to likely meet the fate of their kin. 3. The Caley 812's, nicknamed "Jumbos" for their relatively large size by 0-6-0 standards, were extremely successful mixed traffic engines. Although built primarily for freight traffic, their relatively high top speed of 55-65 mph regularly saw them on passenger trains such as the boat trains that met the ferries from Ireland at Stranraer. Not exactly surprising since they had the same boiler type as the larger "Dunalastair" Class 4-4-0 express passenger locomotives. 4. As part of an agreement between the Caledonian Railway and its Chief Mechanical Engineer John McIntosh and the Belgian State Railways (SNCB/NMBS, depending on if you're speaking French or Dutch), some 891 copies of the 812 Class were built in or for service in Belgium, becoming the Type 30 and Type 32 locomotives. Initially they were only used for freight, but after 1909 they also saw use on local commuter trains and sometimes to help expresses on hilly sections. During the First World War, a few of the Caledonian's smaller 294 Class (also nicknamed "Jumbo") were sent to France to aid the war effort and often rubbed buffers with the Belgian copies of their Scottish brethren. No doubt, had they personalities as they do in Thomas, they would have been very confused. Most were retired between 1947 and 1959, with most being scrapped though some saw use as stationary boilers. 2 examples survive today in museums with a third having been saved as a source of spare parts before finally being cut up for scrap in 2002. 5. Only one 812 Class survives today: Number 828, restored to operation in the summer of 2020 at the Strathspey Railway in Scotland. She was built in 1899, the last of the first batch of locomotives of this class.

[@Redjintyman]

Screw sleep I’m definitely watching this

[@wasupman1074]

saaaamme

[@MatheusCHP]

I had an idea for the real life accident Do the one "oliver owns up"

[@percyhasarifle1598]

Yes I agree

[@greenio2011]

@@percyhasarifle1598 y e s

[@jonessam8459]

Yes great idea 🙂

[@manfail7469]

and kzbin.info/www/bejne/sIfOhIavfrGSl8U

[@douglasthe103]

Aye I remember when ol Oli crash in are turn table

[@evanclarke5561]

The one dislike probably is from the Spiteful Brakevan

[@SaiPatel1000]

There 5 for me now

[@uqinovia8826]

And the other dislikes are from the signaller of the signal box

[@personal9146]

Wow. Theres 9 spiteful breakvans..

[@Noobguy8773]

@@personal9146 wow

[@adamtheblueberry]

@@personal9146 now there’s 13 spiteful break vans

[@inevitableanarchy4203]

Ahh, the spiteful breakvan. One of the few Thomas characters to actually die on screen.

[@Noobguy8773]

My death was premature

[@HolyKhaaaaan]

Along with Scruffey.

[@TheNintendoNerd-wd7bv]

@Holy Khan That's only in the Railway Series. He was rebuilt in the TV show.

[@UnitedWars]

This man has almost 11k in two months wow Edit: Almost 12k 💀

[@jonathane3823]

And thats a niche market

[@MisterHatsofMemphis]

Good content and decent editing are all you need sometimes

[@UnitedWars]

@@MisterHatsofMemphis true

[@Teilsatko]

And now he has

[@pemarealbl861]

Almost eh?

[@arachnonixon]

I like how your videos usually start out w/ a George Carlin quote, followed by sh*t getting smashed-up

[@thecpmr6276]

That's how all GC quotes are followed. In real life. It's caused countless car accidents.

[@tmwarthunder1016]

How about that episode where a Double-decker bus got stuck under a bridge? I had saw a picture of a modern version where a Double-Decker Bus got stuck under a bridge but it's too recent to be a coincidence or an inspiration. If not, what about a funny railway incident which inspired the episode where James's crewmen had to borrow the infamous bootlaces just to patch up the brake pipe?

[@wasupman1074]

Bulgy lol

[@florjanbrudar692]

TM War Thunder 101 The bus' name is Bulgy

[@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis]

The 'bootlaces and newspapers' trick was a pretty common way to temporarily fix leaky vacuum brake hoses to minimize delays.

[@lukechristmas3951]

A childhood favorite!!! You took the words right from my comment!!!! One thing even to this day, I find very admirable about this episode is the detail done to the signal box and brake van crash scenes. The dirt and bruised and black eye on the faces were very impressive to me as a kid and I still like to look at it!!!! And some people will say this is a dark episode and the older fans don't deny it!

[@leonardosanchez3155]

James in a mess , a close shave for duck and Thomas comes to breakfast

[@Tochtfeldt]

quak

[@TheBrickGuy7939]

A Close Shave: A runaway freight train collides into an idle passenger train in a station at Hull. Thomas Comes To Breakfast: Member of staff accidentally lets an engine loose into buffers, taking out half a stationmaster's house in Peterborough.

[@Tochtfeldt]

@@TheBrickGuy7939 quak

[@VanossGamingPlaylists]

@@Tochtfeldt k

[@thefoxmusicchannel3981]

And if you ever encounter a pair of Caledonian twins named Donald and Douglas whatever you do, do not piss them off

[@basicbattles]

My favorite episode and characters, keep up the good work man and thank you for this video

[@canadianbehaviour8280]

Video Idea: Try and guess every engine’s whistle based on audio only.

[@corrauniverse269]

Tender engines aren't typically good at backing up due to their tender getting in the way and unsteady at anything faster than a slow pace

[@jaruuz6187]

Donald and Douglas are my favorite characters in the whole Thomas and Friends series

[@mrsmileygaming2735]

Congrats on 10k/11k subs dude your growing so fast it’s insane

[@kyleclark4449]

The main accident could be a reference to banking engines. Locomotives like Big Bertha were designed specifically for this purpose, and performed their duties well. But more often than not, much more powerful engines would be used, and this could cause the rearmost trucks or the break van to break under the pressure. It was more common here in America, but it did happen in the UK as well.

[@3xfaster]

Personally, D & D’s theme is my favourite to whistle whenever I have to push a dead bus on the road with the shop truck.

[@MrJoeyWheeler]

I am SO glad that this video popped up in my feed. I used to look up TRLOTTTE a lot but hadn't in years and forgot the website name, so I couldn't find it again. You're very useful in that regard! :D

[@Danominator]

Man how do you have this kind of production value and so consistently upload? I'm really impressed my dude, wish I had this kind of consistency.

[@FlyingScotsman-ks8iy]

It is scary how close the pictures look. Great videos love the jokes and comedy.

[@Locomotiveman1994]

Great video. Though, as a railway man myself, I feel like I should clarify something: in all of your episodes, you say that someone should have been fired for what happened. That's not how it works. You don't loose your job on the railway, only because you made a mistake. Especially not when no one was hurt. Minor accidents like crashing into a signalbox, or loosing control over your train are things that can happen, and back in those days, they bothered even less about them that these days! Be asured that, in most cases, no one got fired.

[@TheBrickGuy7939]

This is the source for the event that inspired Steam Roller irishrailwaymodeller.com/topic/7750-the-cork-and-muskerry-light-railway/.

[@smollsaladhonestmistakes9493]

new subscriber here, nice to see im not to only one who loves to reminisce about the good ol thomas days

[@jamesgroccia644]

I sometimes wonder if Wilbert made these events happen so he could base the stories for his son off of real-life events.

[@sauceboss4919]

They're my favorite characters such a shame they get no screentime

[@thehwguy4293]

Read the books if you want to see them more, then.

[@sauceboss4919]

@@thehwguy4293 yeah maybe I should but its still a shame what there doing to them

[@stevenquere8243]

I love the background Jazz!

[@richardjayroe8922]

I like how you find the true stories behind the story. You should find out if the railcars or engines can die or how they die.

[@modelsmayhemspare7408]

Love this series man, keep up the fantastic work!

[@Lukedolan33]

Could you please find any story’s that relate to “A big day for Thomas” where the engine forgets his train

[@porneliushubertsthaicuisin1316]

I think it happened in France

[@mattevans4377]

@@porneliushubertsthaicuisin1316 Would make sense. They are French.... Just some English 'banter' for you.

[@madalheidis]

On the topic of the Spiteful Brakevan not having an inspiration, the closest I know of is the story of the NZR G class, as built as Garratt locomotives. While they wouldn't actually completely destroy a wagon, they were too powerful for their own good, and often ripped the drawbars off wagons!

[@brandxmacz2431]

Nice! This is only in the railway book series, but how about "Bad Look Out" Godred fell off the mountain, which is based on LADAS falling on the snowdon mountain railway in April 1896.

[@theblack2p229]

Amazing Video. I have another idea for a True story. You should do one of Off the Rails, or Oliver Owns Up

[@Matthew-oi6kz]

Can you do a video on how some of the Skarloey Railway stories were based on personal experiences Rev. W. Awdry had on the Tallylyn Railway?

[@Scrunklo]

I love this background music

[@annagolaszewska9622]

THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS VID OLSO DONALD & DOUGLAS ARE OLSO MY FAVORITE CHARACTERS IN TTTE SHOW, IN FACT THEIR MY FAVORITE CHARACTERS, AGAIN THANK YOU AND KEEP THE GOOD WORK, AND MERRY CHRISTMAS...I KNOW THEIR NOT HERE YET BUT THEY BE SOON, SO.....''MERRY CHRISTMAS'' :)

[@spamtongspamton9192]

Tenders and turn tables I think it's called but it's the one with James turning like a top

[@nolanpilon789]

The true story of thomas and the magic railroad lmao

[@gold_monolith6816]

Oh yeah, so 1965 conductor dropped ‘Cid and thought he could transport in between a train station and a magical island just cause he was riding a train back-and-forth And he saw a digging type diesel and was horrified and hallucinated it to be trying to attack him

[@evanclarke5561]

@@gold_monolith6816 Seems a little crazy

[@evanclarke5561]

@Helena Desens No

[@MrDanielNewton]

From reading the real story database which I have, it confirms there was an incident where an over-enthusiastic banking engine crushed a brake van, but where and when it occurred is yet to be identified.

[@killdozer7792]

Douglas: (Crushes Spiteful Brake Van to to pieces.) Narrator immediately afterwards: "No one had been hurt."

[@minecraftplays2971]

did any1 notice douglas had his nameplate already when he destroyed the break van? he isnt supposed to have it yet

[@Yannitron]

Fun fact the episode Old iron technically predicted the crazy 8s incident

[@brandonbaggaley2317]

There is subtext to why both Scottish twins came to Sodor. If Douglas didn’t go to Sodor with Donald, he would have been scrapped. While Rev W Audrey was writing the book that introduced the Scottish twins to the Railway Series, steam engines were being sold for scrap all over the UK.

[@MOHAWKL4A3124]

I've never actually noticed the breakvan's eye all messed up.

[@SukoYote]

Donald and Douglas were always my favorite, rarely used, characters.

[@motorwayt-s628]

They did fare a bit better appearance wise in the books

[@gregkiteos1936]

What you said about The Fat Controller speaking severely to the twins is true but more context would have been provided if *The Missing Coach* hadn't been cancelled.

[@gordonfangirl5185]

The brake can accident seem to be referring too The Round Oak Rail Accident. I mean look at the picture

[@SonicJrandSarah]

Makes me wonder why they didn't have the signal box story be about Henry. I mean, it was his real life basis that crashed, wasn't it?

[@nathandioza7821]

Actually, if your referring 2 his rebuild, it's more closely related 2 an LMS Black 5 from what i remember...😕

[@parmesan4291]

That is true, but it wouldn't make sense to have henry replace Donald, because the book had the story engine being Donald

[@nathandioza7821]

@@parmesan4291 Plus, Henry was probably crashing into parked trains anyway sooooooo🤪

[@SonicJrandSarah]

@@parmesan4291 I meant in both cases.

[@BriceInkling138]

You know something? Awdry has done some unrealistic things with Thomas before. Thomas is an E2 painted blue (green in TAB), but in real life, none of the E2s are painted blue or green, just brown or black all over. Unlike most E2s since they are rubbi- I mean... incapable of pulling coaches, Thomas is one of the rare E2s out there that is capable of shunting and pulling cars and coaches, proving everyone that Thomas was an experimental engine this entire time.

[@javielalvarez5459]

Douglas literally squash The Spiteful Brakevan like a bug! Lol!

[@Sam_Dabboi]

Thomas: where’s me special coach?!?!?! Donald and Douglas: *panics in Scottish*

[@grumpygordon505]

Thomas saves the day .

[@jamesthomas5109]

2:56 looks like Henry crashed into the signal box lol.😄😅

[@eliseorossiproductions6348]

I Love Both Donald and Douglas!

[@HomerPenguin5516]

The one dislike is from donald

[@marvenvalcin8881]

Do Thomas and the breakdown train next

[@thouzanth]

I for some reason liked recreating the crashes that were in the show with my trains. All of the trains died serving this cause😔. (Do I regret it no I don’t it was fun, also will remember does times always)

[@gambleoakranch]

Douglass's face when he is smashing the rail car.

[@PlowBenderStudios]

You should do a video on the incident that inspired the story Off the Rails.

[@phoenix4584]

Screee you did my suggestion

[@terencewilliammckenna6121]

For crushing a van, I guess that it can commonly happen if squeezed too hard

[@spook_286]

4:48 pause and look at the crew member it's terrifying

[@sauceboss4919]

No it's fucking hilarious

[@darkknight5541]

Could you cover the basis for Bad Look Out? The damage to the engine makes what happened to Gordon in A Better View For Gordon look like a light bump on the buffers.

[@PleaseEatSprinkles]

It just looks likes the tender train is just chilinbehind the house😊

[@GenericH0]

Damn 11k that's like 1 thousand new subscribers since the last video

[@vsolou]

I loved this😃love from Scotland❤

[@whosmorales]

Cranky Bugs next? Both crashes?

[@ruchellemiller8423]

Do the episode where James comes to sodor to the first time

[@wyld_wolfwin]

Donald and Douglas are also my favourite twins. The episode was very good and it's nice to learn some more Also, 420th like lmao

[@808pdb]

Can you do the true story of Peter Sam and the refreshment lady (it’s not that interesting but I wanna see a video on it)

[@ryanwiebe4096]

I Don't Know If There Was a Real Life Event Based on That Episode

[@megatronacepticon]

@@ryanwiebe4096 There was. It was based on one of the Reverend W. Awdry's personal experiences, so it would be a good one to do a video on even if there wouldn't be that much to it.

[@Duskypines6]

Douglas's face when he smashes the brake van.... He shows no regret...

[@Im_here170]

Damn bro I love this episode 👍

[@HolyKhaaaaan]

Now do "Fish". That should help you maybe find something to refer to the brake van incident here.

[@evanclarke5561]

I want to see a video which talks about the inspiration behind Peter Sam's accident with the slate trucks in 'Trucks'. LOL since I'm Aussie I'm essentially a time lord

[@fishpop]

Or to give this episode its proper name: Brake Van. Also Sun & Moon music.

[@niakaproductions2020ukus]

Sarah & Marie as Donald & Douglas

[@Nic_2751]

That breakvan got killed on screen and no one was hurt according to the narrator

[@DragonStar524]

I know "The Missing Coach" was a really convoluted story. But I think I know the purpose of the story. I think it was simply written to tell us which engine was actually supposed to be there. The TV series never stated who was supposed to stay and "The Missing Coach" provided us with that information.

[@harrisonallen651]

Wouldn’t the missing coach be renamed “Donald and Douglas” in the American dub if the episode wasn’t cancelled and brakevan to keep with its uk title?

[@robloxracingunited]

hey it’s like 11 pm but sleep is overrated

[@florjanbrudar692]

Steamvin I highly believe you have a sleep disorder

[@Okboomers_010]

I love Donald and Douglas

[@miji-wara754]

If fans could buy the franchise they would.

[@huntinglightning3507]

I believe the Brake Van getting broken into pieces was probably inspired by the 1964 Burt Lancaster film, "The Train", which involves a scene similar to Douglas crushing the spiteful Brake Van.

[@danielsellers8707]

The book was published in 1960, 4 years before "The Train"!

[@huntinglightning3507]

@@danielsellers8707 I didn't know that. Thanks.

[@themistakeisintentional-dn5df]

AEG is a clear example of Mattel f#@king around and finding out.

[@chinenseelf]

I wonder if Toad Stands By is based on a real event

[@cameronshaw8478]

Forget Donald 2:50 what the hell is Henry doing in the signal box?

[@notaslav]

I love it! Keep up the good work!

[@GameBear3000]

That means Henry originaly rams the signalbox insted of Donald

[@florjanbrudar692]

Yep, since that locomotive is his basis

[@Noobguy8773]

Henry is a black 5 not a jubilee

[@GameBear3000]

@@Noobguy8773 i know that what i Said in my other comment

[@Noobguy8773]

@@GameBear3000 k

[@NorthWesternRailwayProductions]

Donald crashes into signal box Sir topham hat" Which one of you dumb mother fuckers"

[@ivanplevancic]

Cmon henry, you know better than to run into Signal Boxes like Donald.

[@Lach1xn]

TrainBoy makes a joke about Season 25: Number 2762515536262736525. 🤪

[@Cooloom]

3rd time asking, the true story behind Toby and the flood, or if not, Godreds death

[@wasupman1074]

Who's godred, you mean the king??????????..??????????????????????

[@andya.4253]

@@wasupman1074 i hope this is a joke

[@beaugarthon905]

the engine that cash looks like henry

[@lt.bagelbites6969]

Do Grandpuff or train stops play please!