The True Team Game Experience | Marvel Rivals

[@1000Tomatoes]

I would rather suck at a fighting game than suck at a team game. Then the only person I have to worry about getting mad at me is myself.

[@Tonbizzle]

If I yell at myself, I know I'll listen. Learn the GD overhead! Meanwhile my spider-man/bot-lane/teammate is just spinning in circles sucking his thumb and reporting me for even calmly mentioning the objective to them.

[@MrMegaman1417]

Dead by Daylight and NBA 2K are the reasons I hate team games now. I’d much rather have all the blame on myself when I lose than have teammates that just learned how to play

[@runbaa9285]

Teammates : "we need healers and tanks" Also teammates : *all five of them insta-locking DPS at match start*

[@VVheeli]

“Where are the heals?” While the Venom/Spiderman/Magick are diving with no fear the DPS turning around.

[@Mr.Faust3]

@runbaa9285 "where are the heals" me playing adam and the Jeff getting mauled like a child by a pit bull named ironfist

[@alvinvalentino5797]

​@@Mr.Faust3Use cloak and dagger, you can still escape with them

[@eebbaa5560]

you only really need one tank but it sucks when your tank doesn’t do his job lol. i main dps but i play support fairly often and tank as a last resort but usually when i play tank it’s just because we’re cooked

[@eebbaa5560]

@@Mr.Faust3 pick mantis or luna snow and iron fist is unplayable

[@asterhogan1]

The absolute whiplash I got from Sajam’s fiancé cursing immediately when gaming just painted the most vivid image of sajam being at McDonalds and her saying “HE SAID NO PICKLES”

[@masterfrostino447x]

The whole reason that guy probably had 0% accuracy with Hawkeye is because (more than likely, can't fully confirm) he switched late into Hawkeye and didn't actually do much with the character. Only reason I say this is because I was playing Thor and switched to a different character to try to make it to the domination point, didn't, and got 0% accuracy on that. It only takes that hero's accuracy, but it takes the rest of the entire player's stats.

[@MADSVPERVILLAIN]

I stopped playing CSGO after I realized that hitting the play button was just asking to be held hostage by 4 strangers for 45 minutes.

[@eebbaa5560]

you would think it’s bad in league, but in a 6v6 game it’s almost impossible to win if just one person isn’t doing their job; it’s actually kind of insane. in league of legends, there are still things you can do to make up for bad players due to the resource mechanics, but in a game like rivals you’re forced to just keep losing teamfights until the game ends. in this way, marvel rivals still has the same problems as overwatch. anyway, i’ve just decided not to take this game seriously to save myself the trouble of caring about things outside of my control. for all their flaws, losing in fighting games will almost never feel as bad as losing in a team game.

[@Wolvahulk]

I don't know if I can agree fully. I guess you can do something in League but at the same time there is just no way you win against someone that's giga fed. Not even by chance. If a 16/0 Katarina, Zed, Jinx etc. gets onto you it's just over. Usually they are so ahead they can just solo tower dive you even. Unless they make a massive mistake and your team helps, there's just nothing you can do.

[@arglebargle5531]

I don't think this is true. I literally just got finished winning a game where our Venom went AFK. And I've seen a few hard carries as well, including two that I pulled off. Characters are powerful enough in Rivals that you can do a lot on your own in the right circumstances.

[@eebbaa5560]

@@Wolvahulk i replied to you in a different comment but i’ll say the same thing here: while that’s true, those are extreme cases and you still get a few minutes to mount a counterattack on a different part of the map unless they get too fed too quickly. the game isn’t designed to end before 20 minutes without a surrender vote, so fed players still need to go through the motions to end the game, which buys you some time. mistakes are also quite common outside of the highest ranks tbh.

[@eebbaa5560]

@@arglebargle5531 i know it’s technically possible to solo carry, but it takes a lot of effort and it really does feel like a one in a million chance at times.

[@Wolvahulk]

@@eebbaa5560 I mean sure but that's mostly up to chance. At a point where someone is that fed, you're really not going to force anything yourself. I hate hearing "mistakes are common", because they're just as common for my team as well. The truth is that matches like that are hardly in your hand and all you can do is just play at your best and hope for a miracle. Games like these are really common in low ELO, and most players don't improve fast enough to see a higher than 51% or so win-rate. That said, ofc you'll have games where you're the one that's giga fed. What's important in LoL is staying consistent enough to win as much as possible. That goes for Marvel Rivals too, except the main difference is that even one good Ultimate can change a matches outcome. However I do agree that it's absolutely miserable to play with a severely outclassed team in both games. I just feel like LoL is a tad worse overall in that aspect.

[@imahumanbeing3446]

Wait I played with a Mvc4when on my team before, I played with sajam???

[@moop8996]

I make the tank role less insufferable by just typing I am groot the whole time I'm playing groot.

[@slartymcguarty2954]

make sure to say Groot Groot after the match

[@Ragness10]

I had one game where we got destroyed on offense because a Panther kept obliterating our backline Second round, someone said we need a second support. Another guy said “it doesn’t matter, no one knows how to play.” So then the entire team locked in and became an impenetrable wall that didn’t crack until the last 30 seconds Moral of the story: “motivate” your team in the first round, I guess

[@Sharkofspace]

"Stop blaming your teammates" is genuinely my biggest pet peeve in gaming. Anyone who has ever played a team game knows that no matter how good you are, your teammates can absolutely lose the game for you, and there's genuinely nothing that you can do about it. I can't tell you how many videos I've seen of literal professional League players saying that if you ever lose, it's always your fault, only to be like, "If only we had a jungler" as soon as they start losing.

[@eebbaa5560]

yeah the hypocrisy is the funniest part. when you lose it’s a “skill issue,” when they lose it’s a “jungle gap.” the positive mental attitude mfs are always turning around and doing the exact opposite of what they preach. also, it’s just nonsensical. it’s a TEAM GAME; why would your TEAM not have a huge impact on the outcome?

[@user-et3xn2jm1u]

Ok, but if you want to win more, you need to play better, and it really is that simple. Do you expect to win every interaction in a fg just by being good at the game? No. So you shouldn't expect to win every team draft either. You have control over both, but not absolute control. "How could my team have played better" is not the question that wins you more games.

[@HamburgerHat1]

People that play team multiplayer games know that some games are unwinnable. It’s very common knowledge. The point is that you aren’t hardstuck because of your teammates. You aren’t silver because of your teammates. You don’t always lose because of your teammates. It isn’t novel or useful information for improvement to say “omg my team always sucks” even if it’s true. It’s an absolutely useless thing to say unless you are in game with them right now and need to vent.

[@Sharkofspace]

@@HamburgerHat1 All I said was that it happens, that it sucks when it happens, and that it's delusional to claim it doesn't ever happen. You added all that extra stuff.

[@ghost-in-the-ciel]

As a League of Legends vet from 2009, this is something people don't understand about team games, even after playing them for years; Your team has X slots that can be filled with a bad player, and you. The enemy team is drawing from the same pool of players, but it has X+1 slots that can potentially be filled with a bad player. This means that over time, you will win more than you lose. That is, assuming you are actually good. Solo queue is not the same game as organized teamplay. You are not there for honorable, formalized play - the biggest skill involved in solo queue is identifying the weakest players on the enemy team and exploiting them ruthlessly to win. Finally: Paid boosters can consistently raise new accounts to Grandmaster, which is proof that there is no such thing as "ELO hell". Good luck out there!

[@nuclearpanan7482]

THROUGH THE POWER OF MA- oh im 0-17

[@eebbaa5560]

this makes way more sense for league of legends though. if you play the right champion you can carry in league just by sheer macro and economy. you can also avoid playing with your team entirely and gain advantages in other ways. there is only one objective in marvel rivals, which is to get the point. you’re forced to fight with your team and the additional player makes solo carrying a lot harder. the point you brought up about exploiting the weak link is good though, albeit it’s harder to do this in a game like rivals as compared to league.

[@armorparade]

​@@eebbaa5560 hop on hawkeye or moon knight and you can ABSOLUTELY carry your way out of lower ranks just on people having miserable positioning

[@Wolvahulk]

​@@eebbaa5560 The ttk in the game is also incredibly fast. Making it incredibly difficult to actually solo a team. That said in LoL if the enemy is incredibly "fed" it means they have a massive advantage. It's nearly impossible to win a game like that based purely on the stat difference. It's borderline like trying to beat a cheater (like in single player games, with 100x health, mana, lower cooldowns etc. ).

[@eebbaa5560]

@@Wolvahulk you’re right but you also get a few chances to do something before that happens unless someone is actually running it down. plus it still takes some time to actually end the game which gives you a few minutes to play the map before the fed person ends the world. you’re right about the stat differences being insurmountable after a certain point, but those games are usually few and far between in my experience. as for marvel rivals, not only is the ttk extremely short, the peel and burst healing is also insane, to the point where even the best dps player won’t be able to play against all of those cooldowns on their own.

[@Mr.Faust3]

Im sorry sajam im the starlord with 0% accuracy and my only kills are from his ult

[@JustJay2282]

Facts😂

[@Mr.Faust3]

@JustJay2282 if ya can't aim play support which most can't do

[@thefish6235]

​@@Mr.Faust3 Honestly that's even iffy cause most supports have to aim their heals 😅

[@angelstyle9677]

I feel like thats how most starlord players get their value. Just farm ult charge, track support ults, the go off with his ult.

[@pktoasty2470]

my personal favorite was when I was duo queuing with my friend and we went into a ranked match where one of our team mates insta-locked Spiderman, did, 300 damage, died 3 times without killing anything, and then raged quit. My friend and I are proceeded to lose the entire match as a 5v6 because we had no choice but to play. Then after suffering my precious 26 lp loss, I went and solo queued in rank only to stop playing 2 min in because the match was being terminated due to an afk player on the enemy team. I literally got grieved by my team mates and the system lmao.

[@whoisslade45]

But seriously, nothing bothers me more than a team that absolutely flops and gets rolled while you’re carrying the corpse of the team on your back and it’s rotting.

[@Da_Spicy]

That's why you gotta make sure you don't stake your feelings on whether or not you win

[@whoisslade45]

@@Da_Spicyoh it doesn’t ruin my day or anything. I don’t take these games seriously enough. It just feels bad. Kinda like doing the big play in a card game and the next turn your board gets broke. Just a boner killer yknow. And if it gets that frustrating I just go do something else. Too old to be getting in my feelings for a no stakes video game.

[@Hypanoz]

@@Da_Spicy Its not the losing that makes you upset, its the inability to do anything that matters, that makes you frustrated that you even spent the time to play that match.

[@Da_Spicy]

@@Hypanoz but if you don't care about winning, then you can have fun while being unable to win

[@eebbaa5560]

@@Da_Spicy nah you don’t get it. the outcome does not matter. i don’t get mad over a hard-fought loss. i get mad when it’s a stomp. even when it’s the other way around, i’d rather play a back-and-forth game and lose than play a stomp from the winning side. the lack of agency is the problem, not the outcome.

[@dragocrafterr8286]

but majas, I am Pagaliacci

[@Hy93Ri0n]

let it be known that every pub spiderman shall not see the pearly gates

[@MrDrumStikz]

I've been both the good player and the trash player.

[@_Rhatsody]

The two teammates flaming each other was the funniest shit ever

[@VerbalLearning]

When it comes to team games i think many people get stuck on trying to do the "optimal" play (in a vacuum) at all times, not realizing that the optimal play changes based on whatever your team is doing. Even if you have the objectively right approach to the game, if your teammates don't play in a way that facilitates that approach then it's likely not going to work no matter how much you bang your head against the wall, so you're better off adapting your play to whatever is the best play given the resources you have available. This means you might have to settle for the 7th best option as that's the only viable or realistic one given the teammates you have. And while this won't make you win every game, i think it'll improve your odds of winning long term more so than stubbornly doing your own thing (even if done really well) and just praying that your team is good enough to do the rest. Saying "there's nothing i can do" even if technically correct is not a helpful mindset to have in team games. Instead you should always be asking yourself "regardless of whether i win the game or not, what is the best thing i could be doing right now given what i have to work with?" and the answer to this question might likely change multiple times over the course of a match.

[@Nykryian]

Loading in and immediately flaming is crazy energy

[@pockystyx4087]

Like; Iron Fist is scary, but a good Spiderman is freakin' terrifying.

[@robind506]

Low skill player plays spidey for fun, mid skilled plays fist because hes easy to pickup and make the most of, but a high skill player plays spidey because his peak is higher than fists

[@pockystyx4087]

@ yeah; his skill ceiling and freedom is insane, but he tales work to learn and even more to master. I kinda dig how some of the more popular characters are harder to play than some of the leas known ones. Kinda has made people look into fun characters like Squirrel Girl and Jeff. lol

[@PhantomOfNorleras]

@@pockystyx4087 why are you randomly and incorrectly using semicolons

[@ApsuP]

I can understand where that mentality comes from if you are good at games, and have good mentality and are good at learning and improving, then bad team mates you can't control are more frustrating than bad personal play you can control. But imagine feeling like you can't control your own performance, imagine being absolute trash at video games (and by trash I mean quite average, but in a world where are visible examples of play are from very good players), imagine the frustration of wallowing in the self hate that comes from failing over and over again, not learning not improving not getting better just being failure. Compared to that, being able to go "I tried my best, but wasn't enough with this team, well time to move on and try again." It's just so much easier, so much more relaxing. Different experiences for different personalities. But just because you don't experience it, doesn't mean it isn't real.

[@MachigaMMO]

I'd be down for a max 3 rule. Even with that, the game needs more tanks that are fun. Most of the tanks lack the kind of big impact abilities that the damage characters have. So often tank ults get interrupted too. Hopefully Doom is a tank and he energizes the role more.

[@thaisennj9781]

I’m really here for the FGC Rivals arc .

[@lordzanza6108]

I think the best way to explain the situation of people never pulling their own weight and refusing to switch is you're stuck babysitting people that want to cosplay/roleplay as their favorite character with no pay.

[@Asd2897]

that last game was wild, team games really do just bring out the strangest in people

[@easytiger7808]

Yeah I’m gonna need Gambit in this game ASAP

[@biggswigg2613]

This is why premade teams *usually* get queued in against other premades only. Having a full team in a call compared to a handful of random idiots

[@Calhasnopals]

I’ve tanked more damage as Venom in a single round than my entire team has dealt, while still out K/D’ing several of them. Rivals players are absurdly DPS-brained, I do not remember Overwatch being this bad way back when

[@Ketsuekisan]

No matter the game, if characters/classes can be divided into Tank/Healer/DPS, the *vast* majority of players will be absurdly DPS-brained.

[@VVheeli]

Unfortunately I do remember it being like that. It was just smaller since the tanks in OW1 were strong enough to overcome it. But before role queue the exact same things happened, you still had people fighting over gold damage, the same blaming healers when it’s 0-4-2 team balance and no one knows what “cover” is or how not to be shot. We’re just seeing it front and center in Rivals bc the tanks aren’t dominant/important enough to form comps around.

[@Calhasnopals]

@@VVheeli I’ll take your word for it, it has been a long time since I’ve played OW. That, and I more often than not played with friends, so I guess I’d only ever see the enemy team fall into those habits

[@eebbaa5560]

overwatch was so bad with this that they invented role queue lol

[@hihigocat]

@@eebbaa5560 that was actually quite the opposite, it was because of goats and brigitte being super op.

[@braun9607]

Wish I could relate to you Sajam, but unfortunately I have the complete opposite problem i.e. being the weakest link on the team while genuinely trying their best. Let's just keep our chin up, all my fellow hero shooter newbies, we'll get there eventually.

[@shmooters5599]

This seems like a different problem from what he is describing. You at least are actually trying to do well and improve. The people he’s mentioning literally do not care about what happens or that it negatively impacts their team

[@MiaCulpa24]

IDK, i think you can carry in a game like this, but there is a limit I think generally, to kind of word it in a way that translates better to a FG or a single player 1v1, let say one of your buttons is just NOT doing it, or multiple. Youre in a bad matchup. How do you solve that bad matchup? Find a good button. Find a way to cut through what is otherwise a fairly one sided fight, and try to give more room for the rest of your kit/team in this sense, to do their thing. If everyone on their team is paper, and your team is rock, dont also be rock or paper. Be scissors. I know this, as a Widowmaker player from Overwatch. NAAAAAAAAAH. That doesnt fly, like half the time. You gotta try to find where the weakness or loss in potential is in your team, try to uplift that lost potential, or find a weakness in the opposing team, and abuse that to make the fight less one sided. Its a hard mindset to get around, because it often times pulls you off of the character you wanna play... but thats familiar, everyone has a bad matchup in a FG. You cant just pick Potemkin, and do your thing against EVERY character. You gotta find your way in, thats how you improve, thats how you win. Alot of people try, and occasionally succeed at just brute forcing and using personal skill to get through, but if you be that working wheel on the car, that bitch'll drive.

[@eebbaa5560]

the one button analogy is so fire wtf

[@MiaCulpa24]

@@eebbaa5560 thanks lol

[@eebbaa5560]

@@MiaCulpa24 i think the reason why this genre of team game specifically is so tilting, even when compared to something league or singleplayer games like fighting games, is because the option to adapt actually exists. in league of legends, you can try to make your champion work in an impossible game, but you can’t just swap to a better champion. in fighting games, you might be able to swap to a different character in tournament, but most of the time if you have a bad matchup you just have to play it out and make it work. in overwatch/marvel rivals, if your character isn’t working, you can switch to a completely different character that might work better, but this is anathema to most players because it goes against the methodology of most other multiplayer games.

[@MiaCulpa24]

@eebbaa5560 Yeah, I mentioned it, but the struggle of feeling like you have to swap characters is valid

[@3ddumpyard]

the one button analogy doesn't really work tho cause in a fighting game even if u have a bad button in the matchup u can stop using that button with no downsides. in a team game like rivals tho if ur teammate is a "bad button" even if i swap to try to make up for it my team then lacks in the role i just switched from. in a team game ur FORCED to keep using the bad button

[@slartymcguarty2954]

The hardest part about team games is finding friends to queue with you

[@sauceinmyface9302]

If you go 2:1 in a game, and still lose.

[@caber787]

sajam my beloved

[@magicalgirl1296]

4:57 Reminds me of seeing day 1 Tekken 8 footage of some poor guy at 2nd Dan or something getting run over by JDCR since at launch no one has ranks.

[@Malao558]

Ah, yes. The eternal truth of team games. Everyone is a little fucking gremlin who only wants to play damage.

[@CantComplain3k]

CS flashbacks- watching one guy on the other team solo 9 dudes on my team and win...

[@DragonthornX]

The point of these team games is to find other people to play with. Solo Q is always gonna be a mixed bag. It feels great to win / lose playing with people you actually know though. Better imo than winning in a fighting game.

[@WutTheDeuceGaming]

the game looks great, but I dunno if I can go back to dealing with the PTSD Overwatch brought. The one trick, DPS morons that do everything but deal damage while I flex to what the team needs, I just cannot do that anymore. I'll never understand how people can pick a character, KNOW they're bad with them, yet continue to keep trying. Play something else ffs. When I play MOBA games like this, I always figure out which single character per class I'm going to use. If I'm bad or don't like my first selects, move on to another one, and continue to do so until I have a lineup I can use consistently and whom I'm not bad with.

[@eebbaa5560]

i mean it’s different in league because you can just onetrick if you want to. once you’re in a game you can’t just swap to what your team needs lol. and if you get autofilled you can just dodge. but yeah there’s absolutely no excuse to not be competent on multiple heroes in this game because there are so many easy ones that you can just pick up and play after reading their abilities.

[@Nooctae]

Yeah, this kind of experience is why I don't even try those games anymore.

[@wispyone3702]

The people who have the confidence to get on ranked, pick insta DPS, and complain about everyone else, could be very strong fighting game players

[@Boyzby]

The reason for me not playing team games is equal parts me not having anyone to play with for the last 15 years, and the experience of praying your teammates know anything about the game at all. I mostly experience this with PVP in FFXIV now-after I stopped playing Team Fortress 2, OW, and other shooters. I'm not that good, I don't expect my teammates to be that good, but I would like it if they knew the object existed, and to not run into the team when we're down in numbers. That's all I need.

[@PUNCHEDPUNCHEDPUNCHED]

Sajam's fiancée pronably not letting him play OW with her cause he'll see her LTG side 😂

[@R4V3NU5]

This game is actually pretty fun if you manage to hit gold or above, I was playing with my friend who insta locked Hela and I was flexpicking for team, it took us around 6 hours to get to plat3.

[@eebbaa5560]

i keep going from silver 3 to bronze 1 to silver 3 to bronze 1 to silver 3. i’m not good at the game but it’s crazy how i’m already hardstuck a week after launch

[@tjhunter9787]

Emily really said (please don't) SUFFER AS I HAVE

[@amememachine8974]

The worst one I've had was a support saying we need another support and a dps agreeing but then following up with 'i don't play support'. He was the worst player on our team with something like a .4 kd and I, the best dps on our team, switched cause i'm actually a team player and we won with no thanks to him

[@eebbaa5560]

i main dps but i play support when we need it because it’s pretty much dps with heals depending on your character lol

[@DripNZ]

For me and like many others, it used to be the opposite, but I think as time has gone on I get more frustrated at losing in fighting games than I do in team games BECAUSE I’m the only one at fault, I have higher expectations for myself. In team games, I know my percentage of impact in a match, and my ego is somewhat removed, ranked becomes a stats game of wins over time, but in a fighting game you can have the expectation on yourself to win all your games in theory.

[@thudthegod2429]

does my heart good to see you play thor. pressing F really just feels like popping dragon install and twerking on the enemy dps

[@urbncampr]

This is the sole reason I dont play team games like this anymore is because it always feels like when I do well a part or my entire team just does not do well unless we ll know what to do.

[@xXcheapdeathXx]

I try to keep the mindset of only focusing on my own gameplay and what I could do better after a loss. I cant do anything to change my teammates so I focus on what I can control. Easier said than done sometimes.

[@NLambo88]

People need to learn how to stack if your serious about playing ranked. Like it’s a completely different game.

[@mezzmure]

I play DBD quite a lot and if there is ONE too many thing people don't do in team games, it's play as a team. I have no clue why this is. It's true for pretty much every other team game too. Rocket League, Siege, any MOBAs, any battle royales, literally anything where playing to help each other out wins you the game. I don't get why these people don't go and play other games where they would surely find much more success by playing for themselves. It's the weirdest epidemic in multiplayer gaming, but it's also been a thing for a very long time. Not sure what causes it outside of pure selfishness.

[@Prodighee]

The gasp I gasped when the dude started yapping

[@JS-zz9lg]

I literally get stats of 29/2 and we still lose, its like why am i bothering? I did my part and did it well why is it my fault the rest of my teams sucks ass

[@tangramman]

there's no better evidence that most people are dumb as bricks than playing team games (i am exhibit A)

[@greensky5328]

Balancing queue times and matchmaking has been a issue in OW since people started playing the game competitively. I'm with you in being so sick of playing tank game after game, not helped by the poor optimization so whoevers got the worst pc is pressured into playing the most impactful roles, (Usually tank, occasionally support.). Plus the tank designs in this game are a little weird with some divers lacking lethality, (Looking at you Captain America.). Not that launch ow1 was much better, initial support cast was really dull.

[@remuvs]

Checking scoreboard and seeing the players who insta-locked DPS have 2 kills, 1000 damage in 3 minutes is one of the most frustrating things. Also 9:51 is a vibe. Sometimes you gotta lettem know.

[@drbjr8223]

''Team games make me pissed!- Sajam''', same same

[@KSIdragonrage]

I liked the video immediately when i saw the tweet in the beginning.

[@MC-ns8gb]

I genuinely cannot play apex anymore because of this, that game has a buddy system for matchmaking where it'll try to equalize skill levels across 3 players which means if you're good you will pretty much always be matched with people who are way worse than you and you'll be forced to carry

[@anggarendy4129]

in the team game, play with random when the game is prioritizing over comn between player of course we're not gonna do well, this kind of game is simplified with which team got blunder the most, so the point is take it easy there's so much factor that you can't control in the team based game

[@chimpmasterflex]

On the note of overwatch suffering, just man... lol. I was tempered in the hellish flames of Dota 2 for years, playing pretty regularly at that. Overwatch though? I would feel every bit of pent up rage from my entire life at the same time, while playing significantly less, and maintaining master. She is doing you a favor by keeping you away from that.

[@rickeyshearin1781]

That guy had to know that he was in rank q, on console they have it on quick match by default, so he has to switch to rank to play rank. Which means he knew.

[@axis8396]

This is why I play against bots in these kinds of games, your team has to REALLY suck to lose that and I'd rather not take it seriously than watch numbers go up and down all day especially when any one of your teammates can decide to just throw and now you have no way of winning

[@Hlidskialf]

Seeing people playing this makes me sad because Valve doesn't care about TF2 and TF2 is much better

[@CulturedDegenerate]

23:46 How is that even possible? Mantis gets healing charges for hitting headshots, so if she's doing a lot of damage then the healing should be similarly large. They were straight up throwing

[@michaelpritchett709]

People are so clueless. Was in a game yesterday, I was rocket and had a rando punisher. I’m in front of punisher, facing him. There is a scarlet witch on his back just auto attacking him. He is just charging forward shooting at something in the team fight, while scarlet is melting his back off And im just shooting healing orbs on him. He never thought to turn around and shoot the damn person shooting his back off.

[@gumhoy5054]

Emily didn't want you dragged down into the darkness? Damn.

[@NeoDaOne]

watching this makes me dizzy...not sure how you guys do it...and for hours.

[@johnydonut5768]

If I had heals Like this while on strange I’d have so much fun lol

[@jordansmith7546]

Yeah .... *Boots up league*

[@datboyjo2617]

Had a moon knight who went like 2-8 the whole game brother what was he even doing the whole time

[@dylanh.3793]

His fiancee sounds like Saruei without a French accent

[@LucasSousaSF]

That is my issue with League of Legends. Played for 10+ years and achieved challenger rank all the time, but as the dev team tried to make the game more and more reliant on teammates than on individual skill, the game just started being not enjoyable at all. It sucks how if a single person does not want to play the game then the game is just immediately over for the other 4 teammates.

[@VulcanKazuma]

emily cameo pogchamp

[@checkmate8849]

Pick a healer and keep healing your enemy. Ez bro

[@JinRatSamuel]

You would love League of legends

[@eebbaa5560]

he has played it extensively in the past. also, i think it’s way easier to carry a team in league, or at least find alternative ways of winning the game.

[@ShimoMav]

Thorjam god of thunder

[@cinderacedr]

Ive been playing overwatch for years, i play Rocket and get more kills as support than my dps most games i swear i do, like its crazy

[@dredgen-hawk5179]

Hey Mr Stephen can we have more videos the include your fiancé in them? It’s absolutely wonderful to see the both of you having a great time together and she brings a gremlin energy to these videos that are typically so calm and soft spoken. 💞

[@eebbaa5560]

strange no doctor

[@idonthaveaname7769]

yall get good so you can win matches I get good so I can flame my team were not the same

[@liqqidsurgegaming2970]

I literally had a team that I was finally able to play dps instead of support because a two teammates chose support. Mid game they went dps no healer I had to go healer. The next match 3 teammates went healer then no tank then I had to be tank I’m a trash tank btw

[@drummachine77]

I think team games can be fun depending on the objective and what style of team game you’re playing. For me personally I always enjoyed playing team games in fps’s, but I think if I played a game where you have to have a role to play, it would definitely suck the fun out of it. Hero shooters do not seem like my cup of tea from watching this.

[@user-et3xn2jm1u]

Wait, this game has no placement matches? That is sick of the developers. They must literally hate their competitive players to do that to them. NO-ONE should have to play with bronze players.

[@decksteroussnail]

As long as Marvel Rivals doesn't follow Blizzard nerfing strategy of always aiming changes to punish the mechanically talented players, things will be okay.

[@VVheeli]

Not just that, but the past few OW patches have been… baffling. Like OW2 is already in a cycle of metas where it’s the same tanks Orisa, Mauga, Dva being dominant. And the patches are cosmetic for half the cast while they micro-buff Orisa and Mauga every other patch until they’re finally dominant again.

[@user-et3xn2jm1u]

@@VVheeli OW2 has many problems but the dev team might be the biggest, and I say this as someone who is usually supportive of game devs because it is a hard job.

[@GSen45]

I was litterally going to make a video on the same thing

[@kaladinstormblessed8790]

Games like this are tuff because i love marvel rivals, and magik is really cool, but i am just *not good* at this game 😭

[@Awkwerp]

yea, team games are unbearable for me unless I have friends to queue with. Might as well design the games around having a fullstack since thats the only way they're fun anyway- and Im not even a ranked player I dont have an MMR stake in this, its just why am I playing if my actions barely matter

[@Undertaker93]

My issue is being qued with console players when I'm on PC

[@612minigun]

I want this game to do as few nerfs as physically possible. Overwatch constantly removing the things I enjoyed is the reason I stopped playing it.

[@jnw85]

I get more annoyed getting SVP than Me having a bad game

[@barbedwings]

Holy shit she sounds so much like my wife LOL.

[@greenoftreeblackofblue6625]

Just play good team games

[@eebbaa5560]

clueless

[@IronMan9771]

0:05 *than

[@capellozapellini6074]

This is why overwatch and rivals are just so unfun imo.

[@ApexGale]

I'm fine with losing as long as the game remains balanced around being casual and silly. I'll start being annoyed if they cater to competitive players and start gutting characters.

[@bageltoo]

Role Queue can’t come fast enough. I’m so tired of having to play support

[@whoisslade45]

First? Whew!