The TRUTH about BOOTLEG replica belts

The TRUTH about this red logo WWF Intercontinental championship belt that I purchased from a belt maker in Pakistan. The maker typically charges $550 for this belt. The maker told me the belt would be new and would have the following features:
5.5mm plate thickness
24kt gold plating
CNC machined plates
Finished strap
The maker promised me the finest quality and assured me that I would be impressed. The truth is, you never know exactly what quality you will get from these bootleg makers. Some makers have established a good reputation and provide good quality work - others are sloppy and have subpar products. Buying from an overseas maker can be a gamble. You need to do you research of the on the maker before buying.
music credit: Levi Conradson & Smashed Echoes

[@tigermike74]

When you consider $300-500 for an illegal knockoff compared to $2500-3500 for a Millican, you get what you pay for. You can't expect a Lamborghini on a Yugo budget.

[@Honoryoursystem]

Well said

[@TheBergBlog]

Can't disagree with you. I guess the point i was trying to make it that it's a crap-shoot when dealing with overseas makers.

[@swissbeats2k]

@bergblog4582 Nawaz makes great belts. Don't let this experience ruin it for you. I have plenty of great high-quality belts from Nawaz, Fandu, and Fight-Nite. WWE shop were the ones that had to catch up to them.

[@foxhound9781]

That’s pretty cheap for a Millican or Reggie lol

[@tigermike74]

@@foxhound9781 that's what mine cost with the licensed wwf logos. I suppose prices are higher now on the 2nd market, especially since Reggie passed.

[@urbantransitdevelopers]

If you’re gonna mention how crappy the belt is, it would be wise to call out the maker. Helps out others that are new in the hobby. Failing to mention a maker and then lumping all of them in one category is disingenuous at best, especially if your review is intended to educate the masses.

[@TheBergBlog]

I've been in communication with the maker - he says he us going to make it right and send a new belt. I'm waiting to see if he follows through before posting his name. Either way, I'll post his name in the near future. Didn't lump them all together either. I did mention in the video that some makers have done a good job establishing a good reputation with quality product

[@DeniseFischerMommaD]

@@TheBergBlog how much??

[@TheBergBlog]

What do you mean? You want to buy this belt?

[@CallmeFig_poppa]

If its a cnc etched belt i can see a more premium price how ever my maker has a better quality belt for half the price (this does look like acid etched possibly 4mm). It is a crap shoot but if you are buying for a paki maker you should ALWAYS do your research and check photos and get recommendations from pple who have delt with that maker. My guy is great with quality and price

[@weasal97]

And the most important thing you need to do is tell us what price you paid can’t expect a lot for $225 because that’s what it looks like

[@BennyJJ]

I actually just received my first bootleg a week ago from a Pakistan maker - I did a lot of maker comparison research first to make sure I was getting the level of quality I was happy with… Even with a few minor imperfections, I couldn’t fault it at all - Altair Belts knocked it out of the park!

[@TheBergBlog]

Altair Belts has a great reputation in the maker/collector community

[@showstopper247]

Ali Anas made my WWF big eagle and it is way better then any WWF/WWE replica big eagle made by figs inc or wwe shop

[@TheBergBlog]

@@showstopper247I've heard his work is legit

[@BennyJJ]

@@TheBergBlog Deservedly so - His work is fantastic… A little pricier, but you definitely get the quality you pay for.

[@BennyJJ]

@@showstopper247 I got an SD WCW tv title and it is immaculate - And for SD quality, the etching is extremely detailed.

[@davidneuffer615]

About time you are back. You should show us the display case of all your belts.

[@TheBergBlog]

Not funny.

[@CharlesHitmanStone]

That was one hell of a Macho Man Impersonation

[@TheBergBlog]

I can do more... ohhh yeah

[@JackMcSomeone]

I got an attitude era Big Eagle belt from United Brothers Belts and it's gotten so bad that there's rust on the belt snaps and side plates. It was only 200 AUD, but I still won't get another belt from them again

[@TheBergBlog]

Thanks for the heads up on them

[@lastationproductions]

The finish reminds me of when Macho used Brasso on the ic belt lol

[@TheBergBlog]

I might customize this belt to represent the Brass belt

[@heisenberg8934]

I bought one as well but mine was more of the 94 era and it was when I got mine one of the side plates were bent and but i myself knew that your running that risk of that coming from their. But just like you that belt is what made me a fan and want collet belts as well. Love that old school look. Wish they would have taken more pride into their work. It looked like they went so far one day and came back the next and didn’t even check it over. Still a nice belt

[@TheBergBlog]

Thanks man! This belt, the Winged Eagle, and the classic Tag belts are just such a memorable piece of my childhood.

[@thecalibratedsuperstarslic4284]

I would like to know more information on the maker please

[@TheBergBlog]

Ill post more about the maker in the near future. He said he was going to correct this issue for me by sending a new belt. Whether he follows through or not, I'll make sure you know who it is

[@WEAREKJD]

I got one a couple years ago from Pakistan. It was the 05 smackdown tag title. Only things were the plates were very thin, scratched and they used the wrong blue for the globe.

[@TheBergBlog]

You have to be very specific with these makers on what you expect for details like plate thickness, paint colors, etc. I'm not surprised you had that issue.

[@jdotm70]

i brought my wwe haveywaight belt from a random wrestling show in a high school that had former wwe stars there signing and the belt was 240$ and that was 2019 and as of right now its still holding up.only thing is the signitures i have on it are fading on the strap

[@TheBergBlog]

Do signatures make the belt more valuable?

[@jdotm70]

Of course yes !!! I’m telling u the bigger the name the more expensive the belt is if u wanna sell it

[@kwdon7]

No Belt Tip. I had the same issue with my winged eagle.

[@TheBergBlog]

This version wasn't supposed to have the belt tip... it was the version after this red logo that the belt tip was added.

[@B10Mman]

I bought the NWA National Heavyweight Wrestling Championship belt from most probably the same guy that supplied you, your WWF Intercontinental belt. Mine was dirty and has imperfections. I got the thinner 2.5mm plates, I was thinking about getting thicher plates on future purchases if I choose to go down that path. A Dave Millican belt or belts would be the ultimate for my collection. I have 3 WWE Shop belts and 1 Pakistan belt.

[@TheBergBlog]

Could be the same maker!! I have a Fandu Big Gold, 6 WWEShop belts, and this IC bootleg

[@Cooking_with_Crego]

I bought a bootleg WWF tag team belt from Pakistan (the style that Demolition had). After a few year the leather on the back started separating

[@TheBergBlog]

That is a fairly common issue with Pakistan belts.

[@KnifeSotelo]

I bought my Smoking Skull belt for less than $200 from possibly the same Pakistani maker. You'll never see me complain, I'll definitely go back to the seller. I can always put the plates on a genuine leather belt lol

[@TheBergBlog]

I don't disagree. In fact, I even say in the video that I'm satisfied with the belt. What I wasn't satisfied with was the sales pitch and description of the belt given to me by the maker versus what I actually received.

[@Cobra-Kai1023]

I have the dual winged eagle heavy weight belt and I don’t have these problems with my belt do you keep your belt in the casing that it comes with cause I do plus maybe you got a defected belt you should’ve send it back but to me it looks like your not taking care of that belt

[@TheBergBlog]

Bro, the belt came this way. Also, keeping you belts in the belt bags is a terrible idea.. if.any moisture sets in your belts are doomed

[@Cobra-Kai1023]

@@TheBergBlog o dam yea you got a bad belt just order it from wwe shop the casing isn’t a bag it’s a protection casing made for the belt it has a zipper to open and close it

[@Cobra-Kai1023]

@@TheBergBlog I’ve had the belt since December and so far so good I honestly suggest to get the ic belt from wwe shop it’s worth it

[@TheBergBlog]

Yes, the casing you are describing, otherwise known as a belt bag, is not a great place to store the belt long term.

[@TheBergBlog]

Already have it

[@travisbickle1455]

Sorry to hear that you were overcharged for this belts. Looks like a $200 belt from Ebay. It would be much appreciated if you told us who you got it from so we won't make the same mistake.

[@TheBergBlog]

The belt came from JS Belt. I should add that since I talked to him about this belt and expressed my dissatisfaction, he made me a new one that was WAY better. I've since ordered 2 other belts from him (Reviewed on this channel) that were really really good!

[@summer-np6fx]

How much you take for it?

[@TheBergBlog]

How much you offering?

[@rehor520]

I got my bootleg winged eagle for actually a very good price….but the strap is basically almost all off the back now. Nothing hot glue can’t fix….and my leather is THICK…but you do get what you pay for. Lucky for me the gold plating and emamel work is pretty decent. For display- I’m ok with it.

[@TheBergBlog]

That is a common issue with Middle East bootlegs, but as you said, if you are just going to display it, no biggie.

[@shadycnetwork]

Why do I feel like you had planned on buying for cheap just to resell it for more?

[@TheBergBlog]

Not sure why you feel that way since this belt is still sitting on my display shelf as part of my collection...

[@talkingstraightwithnate]

I saw a few replicas for around $100 online. For that price I wouldn’t be too bothered by some imperfections since I’ve seen others for way more and I would probably just check it out, hold it a bit & put it on the wall. Plus the wrestlers notoriously didn’t take care of the belts and let them get worn.

[@TheBergBlog]

Replicas in the $100 range are going to be 2mm brass plates with barely any etching/engraving - very basic.

[@talkingstraightwithnate]

@@TheBergBlog Yes they appeared to be

[@TheBergBlog]

makes sense

[@MichaelBlackYT]

I run an indie fed and the Pakistan belts worked super well for my custom designs.

[@TheBergBlog]

You can get decent belts for sure - even this specific belt that I reviewed felt durable. It could totally be used in an indie fed.

[@miguelnoche1867]

Fandu belts is considered a bootleg belt maker and their belts are better quality than official wwe. If you showed me the eagle wing duo plated championship belt on the wwe shop and a fandu belt side by side i would have guessed the wwe was the bootleg.

[@TheBergBlog]

Indeed

[@HasselHutchinson99]

How much did you spend?

[@TheBergBlog]

somewhere between $0 and $500

[@John.S1983]

These belts are "Good from far, far from good." I purchased a couple to see what they were all about. Both of my examples started peeling pretty badly from the back after only a couple of months.

[@TheBergBlog]

My understanding is that the source materials used in creating these belts is subpar. Inferior leather, dirty acid for etching, and even the recycled metals they use for the plates.

[@marvelsucksnow6424]

Your supposed to polish it with brasso to improve the polish

[@TheBergBlog]

Yes... I just watched a DIY video that Macho Man made showing how he polished his! LOL

[@solefoodbrand1699]

😂😂😂😂😂 #DigIt

[@musclemark2710]

Where can I buy this belt?

[@TheBergBlog]

Pakistan

[@musclemark2710]

@@TheBergBlog how do I get to Pakistan?

[@TheBergBlog]

You could try joining the military... that might get you over there.

[@markkessler5927]

They also forgot two things on that belt the one is the gold tip at the end and also the WWF property InterContinental logo plate there should be six plates altogether instead of five

[@TheBergBlog]

The red logo IC belt did not have a gold tip, a property plate, or tooling on the strap. It wasn't until they replaced the belt with an updated version (after Macho Man killed the belt with Brasso polish) that they added those upgrades.

[@KirksCORNER]

Maybe call out who the maker is?

[@TheBergBlog]

Yeah - holding off on that for the time being since he said he would send me a new belt for free to make up of this poor quality belt. If he does, I will review that belt as well. Either way, I will be posting his name in the near future, either to praise him for making it right, or to let people know who not to order from

[@kingJshawn]

Decent review man. I'd just recommend you specifically call out that particular maker versus summarizing a whole country up based off of his lack thereofs. Speaking from experience with having some Reggie Parks, Dave Millicans, TRB, amongst other established makers, you'd be surprised of the quality I've gotten from an overseas maker (CS) compared to domestic. Just a small bit of advice bud. Take it for what it is.

[@TheBergBlog]

I hear you - I'm waiting to see if the maker of this belt follows through on his promise to make it right before I post him publicly.

[@mattyrobinson8137]

To be honest it goes on who you go to in Pakistan as I’ve had a bad experience with a custom Belt and then a new maker I use now is really good at there work

[@TheBergBlog]

Yeah - that is what I was trying to convey here. There are a ton of makers over there and if you're not familiar with the big names like Nawaz, Altair, etc... then I wanted to show what you might expect to receive

[@FTBeaman]

Ive bought a ultimate warrior legacy title from fanatics for $350 and have one from an eBay seller for $125 thats just a generic world title i got for a friends promotion. The quality is comparable tho one is silver and other gold.

[@TheBergBlog]

Sounds like a good score

[@joeysimpson4020]

Acid etching is how Millican and Parks made their belts

[@TheBergBlog]

its a proven success

[@SuperSith_Champ]

I remember Macho man Randy Savage vs Ricky the Dragon Steamboat doing battle for that Beautiful belt at WrestleMania 3.. IMHO,I remember that more than Hogan slamming Andre the Giant

[@TheBergBlog]

One of the all time classic matches in all of pro wrestling

[@SuperSith_Champ]

@@TheBergBlog YES

[@digitalwest3808]

I remember Hogan & Andre way more 💯 They sold the event 💯

[@travisbickle1455]

@@digitalwest3808 People came to WM3 for Hogan vs. Andre but Steamboat vs. Savage was a bonus to them.

[@DRNicholasJones]

Bootlegs are hit & miss my AEW bootleg was immaculate . If you decide to sell after you get the other one I might be an interested buyer .

[@TheBergBlog]

I'll keep you posted!

[@E46Knight]

I have to admit, there are certain replica belts that I don’t mind seeing with a few flaws. To me, those flaws makes the belts appear “Ring Used.” This belt certainly fits my liking! The only exceptions I have with this belt are, the sloppy painting around/on the letters and center design. Plus, the red smudges of paint on the leather and, the vinyl backing separating from the leather. The dull and nicked areas on the gold plating, gives the belt character to me (except the hair encased in the plating). But, I do understand a lot of people want a pristine wrestling belt. Especially, since many are expensive.

[@TheBergBlog]

I agree that certain belts look good when they appear "ring used." I think that is why so many people liked the classic IC after Macho Man used the Brasso on it.

[@samw.2479]

ORM is the best bootleg belt maker right now. Most accurate designs and gols plating is incredible

[@TheBergBlog]

They do great work!

[@syckodaklown]

Personally I love MOCBELTS. I have many title belts from them and they do really great work.

[@TheBergBlog]

sweet! I'll check them out

[@billyoung5826]

​@syckodaklown moc belts are an absolute scam. You may have had a good experience, but Fahad has stolen and defrauded from so many customers who either never received any belt, or got a completely lower quality than what was advertised. He also lies and string you along before ghosting you.

[@DDT-4]

I'm from Pakistan Please provide the contact details of the belt maker

[@TheBergBlog]

Before posting his name/info I am waiting to see if he follows through on his promise to make this right for me. I don't want to slam him if this was something he can fix.

[@DDT-4]

@@TheBergBlog alright. Will be waiting then

[@TheBergBlog]

@@DDT-4 I appreciate the patience. One way or another, there will be an update with a name

[@ShonCope]

Classic Shields are the best overseas makers, IMHO. I got a bad IC title as well from a subpar maker and decided to grab the brasso and make the Savage IC belt.

[@TheBergBlog]

that may be what happens to this belt

[@AlphaDynamics22]

I would just like to file a complaint with HR. That belt hurt my feelings. What did I ever do to that belt???? This has created a hostile viewing environment detrimental to my mental health and well-being. Also...subbed.

[@TheBergBlog]

HR formally denies your request. Please see page 14 of the employee handbook that says "No being a little bitch." Also, thanks for the sub!

[@stevengrayson1853]

Got one off eBay saved so much money ya wouldn't expect be to the standard tbf and happy

[@TheBergBlog]

sometimes I feel like eBay is a scam

[@stevengrayson1853]

@@TheBergBlog luck of draw feel but paypal is great for that tbf

[@MasteroftheDDT]

I bought the old WWF triple crown from Pakistan(an IC, 2 tag titles and a winged eagle world) all only 2mm. Imo, they do the same job as the high dollar replicas; sit there and look cool. I had to have that old WWF logo.

[@TheBergBlog]

You hit the mark here! Not every collector wants (or needs) to have a $1000 replica on fine grain leather, cubic zirconia stones, and 5.5 CNC machined plates. I have several belts that aren't top quality, but they sure look good sitting on a shelf!

[@MasteroftheDDT]

@@TheBergBlog exactly man. My thing is figures. Ljns, hasbros, galoobs, njpw hyper heroes and on and on. I don't need a strap as good or BETTER than the pros had.

[@TheBergBlog]

....you missed Karate Fighters!

[@williewinston1498]

The Nikita koloff/lex luger u s. Title belt is my 2nd favorite belt of all time behind ric flair's big gold belt

[@TheBergBlog]

Yes! That belt is so nice!

[@cfairfax85]

It depends on the maker. There are several I use from overseas who make quality replicas..that blow WWE shop out the water. You do have to be careful where you order from though..you're right about that lol.

[@TheBergBlog]

Feel free to share the names of who you use!

[@CarlosRamirez-nu2hr]

good review !

[@TheBergBlog]

Thanks! I have more being posted on my channel. Check out this review of my Fandu Big Gold kzbin.info/www/bejne/b4K4g5SdZruGm8k

[@j2alomar]

What's crazy is, if anyone had this exact belt 35 years ago, you would've been the man in your neighborhood!! Lol I'm not a belt snob or connoisseur (not that there's anything wrong with that), for me, depending on what the price is, I'm ok with these issues. Idk I just wish I was able to get even a "Pakistani" belt when I was a kid :(

[@TheBergBlog]

You are totally right. The original Figures Inc. belts that came out in the late 90's were really crappy. But, at the time, it was all we had and they seemed amazing. This belt compared to those is way better. But, but today's standard, this belt is now subpar. Either way, as I said in the video, it is still a satisfactory belt.

[@MikeOTR]

I had an experience with a fake belt maker. I cancelled it before I was charged, but somehow I got the belt. Left a review where I called him out for the fake and he left me a very hateful message saying that I didn't pay for it and that I was also a competitor of his lol. I didn't pay for it so I gave it to my friend who didn't mind that it was fake. But yeah everything you mention is true.

[@TheBergBlog]

Seems like he needs to tighten up his business model!

[@tomer_stern]

This is a very poorly made belt from Pakistan. It does not represent bootlegs from Pakistan, as I had a much better experience with the belts I ordered from there. I got a 310$ CNC IC from a maker I trust with. The plating was perfect, the side plates were curved unlike this one, the gold was even and looked real nice on the entire belt, has a champion plate and a gold tip. The leather is real bad here as well. I recommend you to start ordeing belts from GCB, Top Shelf, Nawaz, or Classic Shield. Their belts will change your mind about the Pakistani makers.

[@TheBergBlog]

Who is your trusted maker? Maybe I'll buy from them and review their belt.

[@jr_lyon]

M Asad Ali with Greater Custom Belts, Ali Anas with Altair Belts, and Muhammad Nawaz are only makers I would trust unless wanting to go with the big boys of Boots such as Orm or Classic Shields

[@tomer_stern]

Value for money its Great Custom Belts. I had to pay 150$ extra for shipping to Israel, but he ships for free to the US.

[@Jerac-X]

@@TheBergBlogI use Syed from Arosha Belts. Quality is on par with ORM and CS, but the wait time is much shorter. I also have bought from Abdul Rehman (M Rehman Belts) and he has been excellent to work with.

[@TheFort87]

GCB sold the the worst IC belt. Wavy etching and literal cuts in the top filigree that cut me a few times and terrible leather. Went with someone else to replace it

[@wweminehead5458]

Plus upload more stuff like this

[@TheBergBlog]

Going to try!!

[@thewrestlingfray2016]

I agree, this belt was not well done. If this belt was zinc, they used an inferior plating process because the slight grainy texture gives me brass vibes. Paint issues everywhere. Well, that does happen, I actually had some paint issues on a few WWE Shop belts as well, but this one is over the top. I agree with a few guys on here, you need to point out who the maker is. If not on here, then somewhere where the community can be notified.

[@TheBergBlog]

Just waiting to see if the maker comes through on his promise to make this right (before slamming him). If he makes it right with a better quality belt, I will review that belt with his info made public

[@healer246]

It’s definitely not the 24k gold plating because that would’ve smoothed out a lot of these issues.

[@Co2DaJo]

Oh It's definitely brass, TRUST me its true...its DAMN TRUE😂!! Mines is the exact same and the plates are tarnished completely. They just lie and advertise that it's 24k etc but really its brass material. I have PLENTY of other zinc plated belts that are way older than the IC Pakistan belt and NONE of them are remotely tarnished or rusted only the Pakistan purchased IC belt. U certainly get what you pay for🤦

[@TheBergBlog]

@@Co2DaJo Clearly there is a breakdown in the Three I's

[@vinnycarkido4291]

Muhammad Asif, Nawaz, so many others out there that are good. I’d go with a CNC next time as well. Unless you prefer a nice sd from Orm or Hd which obviously is more cash. Sorry bro. Hope you get some money back for that.

[@DDT-4]

Can you please provide their contact details?

[@AceGoodheart]

ORM, Classic Shields and Altair make some VERY nice looking belts, but their prices are higher than what I'm willing to pay. I have 2 SD belts ordered from NAWAZ and 2 HD belts ordered from MS Creations. Their quality seems pretty nice for the price. Asif has been awesome with updating me about my belts. Both guys have great reviews. I have a feeling these 2 guys will be my go to belt makers.

[@DDT-4]

@@AceGoodheart please provide their contact details

[@TheBergBlog]

I'm waiting for the maker to make this right. He said he will send me a new belt of better quality to make up for this. Before I slam him, I want to give him a chance to fix it.

[@giovanniguido1978]

So who’s the maker?

[@TheBergBlog]

This belt was made by Jamil Sulahry. His Facebook group is JS BELT ECTHING CANTER. He reached out to me regarding my concerns for this belt and offered to make things right. I gave him a shot to make it right and he came through on his word. I don't hold any hard feelings and will do more business with him. I recently ordered two more belts from him and they are incredible. You can see the unboxing of those two new belts here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qqiWoWWcbqaol9k

[@126Swanky]

I've got 3 knock off belts now, the WCW Big Gold Belt (my fav), the Undertaker Undisputed Title and a 90's Winged Eagle. Getting set to buy 2 90's Tag Titles, one for me and one for my lad, so we can we World Tag Champs. All of those belts cost about $150 each. I don't have the cash lying around for the stuff I'd really like, so these belts work for me. Are they great? Not really, the quality isn't bad, but I also know what I was getting myself in to. Do they make me smile, or my kid smile? Yep, so that makes them money well spent :)

[@TheBergBlog]

Yes!!! Love it bro

[@R3troZone]

I paid under $100 a couple years ago for an AEW world title belt off Amazon. It came from Pakistan and was low quality but not completely terrible. However I don't think they understood their own ordering system, because they charged me for 1 belt but they sent me two AEW belts and a WCW world title belt. So I got 3 poorly made belts for the price of 1.

[@MyNameIsUnavailable]

Lemme buy WCW off u

[@R3troZone]

@@MyNameIsUnavailable hell no

[@TheBergBlog]

jackpot!

[@michaelwilliams9922]

May I ask who was the maker

[@TheBergBlog]

You can ask... but until I see if they resolve the issue I am not revealing that info

[@Urineil]

​@bergblog4582 that's pretty shitty. It leaves the rest of us to possibly lose out by going to the same maker. You could help your viewers but instead you're not doing anything but bitching about your precious belt

[@TheBergBlog]

I'll be releasing the maker's name in the near future. Right now I'm giving him a chance to correct the issue - he said he'd send me a new belt. Either way, I'll either be doing a review of the new belt, or telling everyone who it is that you should avoid. It would be more shitty of me to post his name without giving him a chance to fix the problem.

[@atlqua23]

Beautiful belt ngl .. and for the price its really not much to complain about .. u get what u pay for and this is good quality for what u paid

[@atlqua23]

Only people who will notice are those who get that close to inspection this honestly

[@TheBergBlog]

Yeah, agreed. I just wish I received it as it was described to me. I bought it off of what the seller told me and then got something different.

[@Josh-lk7uo]

There are hundreds of 'Pakistan belt makers'. It appears as if you didn't do your research and bought from a not so reputable maker. Check out work from guys like Classic Shields, Orm, Muhammad Nawaz, Ali Anas, Waqas Naseer, Muhammad Asif.

[@TheBergBlog]

I am aware if the big names and have done all the research. I got this belt after the seller reached out to me and we corresponded for a while before I took the chance

[@andyjones357]

I definitely would send them an email with this video and tell them they can keep it and refund that money

[@TheBergBlog]

The seller is aware - he's promised to send me a new belt of better quality. We'll see

[@nikkiLee-hf6gx]

you got this for 10-15% of retail. is it worth?

[@TheBergBlog]

I guess I'm not sure what you mean? I didn't buy this at a 10-15% discount.

[@nikkiLee-hf6gx]

@@TheBergBlog you only paid 10 to 15% of what an actual one cost. was it 10-15% as good??

[@TheBergBlog]

still don't understand

[@nikkiLee-hf6gx]

@@TheBergBlog a real bonified logod Reggie IC costs much much more than the price you paid. you gave 10-15% the cost. was the qaulity of the belt you got atleast 10-15% as nice an an actual Reggie belt??

[@TheBergBlog]

That you captain obvious. @@nikkiLee-hf6gx

[@shaggyirl]

The leather looks to be of low quality but sometimes looks can be deceiving it really shouldn’t be that loose

[@TheBergBlog]

Outside of the finish-work on the leather, I don't think the quality is that bad. Wish they used a thicker strap, but the quality seems good

[@keithgreen1841]

Yeah definitely gotta be careful. I got burned once buying one off Etsy. Was the Rated R spinner and was pictured and advertised as the actual looking replica. I got it and the thing looked like a 10 year old made it in his garage. The size was way off, no actual jewels, the spinner in the middle was made with a huge lag bolt with the spinning plate welded in place. The paint was horribly splattered all over not contained in any of the lines at all. And some of the plate edges were razor sharp because the plates were barely even 1mm thick. I made a complaint and got a full refund. Definitely gonna be careful of that in the future. 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@TheBergBlog]

that sounds awful

[@RSTLNE.]

You get what you pay for when it comes from overseas. The makers not leaving his stamp on the end of the snap box is a red flag for me. That alone tells me that they are either beginners and you should have done a bit more research into them or someone else did the leather for them. Decent belt in my opinion around the $300 range. At least they attempted to burnish the edge.

[@TheBergBlog]

This belt came about from conversations that I had with the maker and him promising me unbelievable quality. We worked out a deal and then I got this belt. Certainly a decent belt... all of the components for a great belt are there. It is just lacking in the fit & finish department.

[@Serg_More]

I own and review mostly from Pakistan belt makers. There are some, as ur belt shows, that aren't good. But if u want quality, there are a few that can provide it at a higher price, but you get what u paid for. $500 is just what you put as a down payment for a high-quality belt.

[@TheBergBlog]

Yeah - most collectors are in the hobby as novices and aren't looking to drop $1000 or more on a replica. I just wanted to made a review that gives people an accurate expectation of what you might get

[@solaceascension2208]

Sorry this didn’t turn out very well. But those definitely look like CNC plates. The lettering art isn’t good though.

[@TheBergBlog]

We may have to agree to disagree. The pitting and wavy areas are indicative of acid etching. I don't see any of the tooling/patterning that is typically present with CNC

[@solaceascension2208]

⁠​Not sure about wavy areas, but I’ve seen pitting on CNC plates before, and even on WWE Shop plates. I think that’s more a characteristic of a bad batch of zinc. The lines on these are just too straight, the letters such as W and N appear to have used a wide drill bit, and in acid etched plates the stars would have recessed areas around them but these don’t. But either way I hope the maker does you right the next time.

[@eastsidenell]

Ain't no you get what you pay for.... Y'all tripping! WWE shop sale 300-500 dollar belts no wear and tear perfect everything

[@TheBergBlog]

I own multiple WWEShop belts and I agree, they do a great job. But, I'm a sucker for a real leather strap and thicker plates.

[@observer.b_e_l_l_i_s]

Shop belts are trash in comparison, some of you really should consider putting the sauce down.

[@eastsidenell]

@@observer.b_e_l_l_i_s idk any other site to order them off

[@arjuken8]

You can get some pretty dope belts for $1500 from Pakistan tho

[@TheBergBlog]

truth!

[@paulhager1281]

I got a ufc belt bootleg..not the legacy but the one before it for 140$ and it is amazing...i woyldnt take 1000$ for it..its wasnt from pakastan...always look at the percent and revirws on the same belt they r selling..they usually.sell a few of them..i got one from pakastan and it was total crap

[@TheBergBlog]

The UFC belts are legit!

[@michaelwebb9972]

My dual plated winged eagle ABSOLUTELY rocks. My green Valentine I. C. Absolutely sux. My NWA ARN TV title kills but the snaps broke off.

[@TheBergBlog]

Yeah... again, the quality is a gamble.

[@michaelwebb9972]

Agreed. Pakistan is a crap shoot. My Apollo Creed World title is breathtaking. The Balboa belt is all sorts of wrong

[@Atlas012]

Sweet!

[@TheBergBlog]

yep

[@DrNickRiviera995]

I would never order directly from one of these overseas companies. At this point there are so many on the market and on ebay, varying makers/quality/prices. Just buy 2nd hand and make sure you see quality photos and/or video.

[@TheBergBlog]

I've done just that for a few of my other belts.

[@eaglesavage4929]

I think these plates are CNC bro

[@TheBergBlog]

It's a little hard to be sure... some areas seem like CNC, and then some areas are resemble acid etch. It's not that big of a deal to me I guess. This belt is constructed better than a lot of other boots I've seen. I just wish the finish work was done better.

[@eaglesavage4929]

@@TheBergBlog yeah it's not great CNC work you can see the CNC milling lines and the plating Could have been a lot better.

[@foxhound9781]

The truth is you pay for what you get. You’re over generalizing the term “Pakistan Bootleg.” Not all makers produce a sub par belt like this. I’ve dealt with Classic Shields several times now and have only received quality. They are comparable and even better in some instances to Reggie or Milican and they are from Pakistan. Good video just over generalized a bit in my opinion.

[@TheBergBlog]

You're not wrong

[@VediRepublic]

i hear ya. add velcro to the belt and call it a day! LOL i ordered a WWF winged eagle because i grew up with WWF also. i dont care if its knock off lol.

[@TheBergBlog]

Yeah, I'm not too picky on it being a licensed replica, or a boot... but I do expect a certain level of quality. I've got the dual plate WWEShop winged eagle that was releathered. Love it

[@VediRepublic]

@@TheBergBlog I just want the WWF logos for the proper belts 😂😂

[@TheBergBlog]

don't we all....

[@user-mw2hn6zy9y]

They are all knockoffs of the original maker's belt. Next, you need to see if it's made to the original spec and what variances occur if not.

[@TheBergBlog]

I'm not all that concerned about being 100% to spec

[@nicolasbevien]

In this hobby “you get what you pay for “really applies when buying from Pakistan. Buy cheap get cheap.

[@TheBergBlog]

This belt cost more than a WWEShop replica... so not necessarily cheap.

[@DashingChrisBey]

@@TheBergBloghow much did you spend on this !?

[@TheBergBlog]

Spent a few hundred dollars, plus time spent to photograph, video, and edit a review.

[@DashingChrisBey]

@@TheBergBlog you said it cost more than a replica on shop. So what was the number ?

[@TheBergBlog]

@DashingChrisBey over $500 all in

[@ElparsWorld]

Nice! I miss the good old times of the World Wrestling Federation...😥

[@rolandorodriguez5436]

Don't forget the Attitude Era as well and the New Generation Era too

[@TheBergBlog]

Yeah me too

[@TheBergBlog]

it was ALL good back then!

[@shawnpcrouch]

Mine was always the Winged Eagle

[@TheBergBlog]

It's a classic, that's for sure!

[@user-ph8gn1qr6u]

550 dollars is not the price of a premium wrestling title belt, this dude is an absolute nerd and has no idea about the cost of things

[@TheBergBlog]

For serious collectors in this hobby, $550 is a chump change. I'm well aware that serious collectors will spend thousands on custom belts, ring used belts, or rare iterations of belts. But to the average buyer, which encompasses most of those in this hobby, $550 for a belt starts to encroach on "premium" pricing.

[@observer.b_e_l_l_i_s]

Pathetic that it has so many views at that. People wasting money on garbage Shop belts where if you drop just a bit more you get premium show quality. Hell some SD quality belts are better than Shop at pretty much the same price smh.

[@TheBergBlog]

nobody is arguing that fact... the point of the video was to help people understand that ordering belts from makers such as this is a gamble. @@observer.b_e_l_l_i_s

[@rtoles9127]

$550 is not premium price for a belt. Thats basically WWE shop price.

[@TheBergBlog]

Basically, but it is 5.5mm plates and real leather which you don't get on WWEShop unless you're dropping over $700

[@Magus1213]

Bootleg is also the only way to get the true WWF logo used back in the day. The WWE shop only sells the version with the “revisionist” logo which offends me more than minor flaws do.

[@digitalwest3808]

It looks good to me 💯

[@TheBergBlog]

Satisfactory for sure. Just wish it was everything I was told it was going to be.

[@swissbeats2k]

Are the belts WWE uses bootleg, too? Since they don't use WWE shop belts on tv.

[@TheBergBlog]

No - they contract a maker under a license agreement to produce their belts.

[@swissbeats2k]

@bergblog4582 contracted through WWE or not, it's still being made by a belt maker, and so are the belts from overseas sellers. You can't go wrong with classic shields, Nawaz, or Fight-Nite. Btw that maker that made yours is a good dude from what I hear so he will fix the problems you had with this belt on the new one he sends you.

[@kennethwilson925]

The intercontinental championship is my favourite

[@TheBergBlog]

Same!

[@jorgerosas5138]

Looks great to me

[@TheBergBlog]

I'm satisfied with it. Just wish it would have turned out the way the maker told me it would. Still a really nice belt!

[@GreenerGrassInvestments]

Nice!

[@TheBergBlog]

Thanks!

[@MrJermeyp]

Its literally 100-ish bucks on real leather with THICK plates … I really don’t think there’s any room for complaints for that price from Pakistan … if it were a 500 dollar WWE Shop belt then I might be pissed and expect a LOT better … but for this price who can complain this Is a KILLER belt for the money ..

[@TheBergBlog]

You are assuming that I paid $100. I didn't.

[@Sith_Champ76]

If you only payed about $100-$200 for that belt,it is not as bad,ive seen way worse.

[@TheBergBlog]

I've definitely seen worse.

[@stevebragg4256]

Still not a bad looking belt for the money. Truth told even the real belts were not absolutely perfect, especially over time.

[@TheBergBlog]

Its satisfactory - but it certainly didn't live up to the hype that I was given by the maker

[@muath603]

Lower the music please

[@TheBergBlog]

Will do - I appreciate the feedback

[@ReverendCed]

It's still nice.

[@TheBergBlog]

Yeah

[@brianduchow1745]

I really hope you can get your money back for the belt.

[@TheBergBlog]

I'm going to hang onto it. I'm working with the seller who says he'll make me a new belt of better quality for free to make up for it.

[@bryannforeman935]

Came in thinking you would be nitpicking about minor details. Am surprised by how bad this belt is. Wow

[@TheBergBlog]

It has its issues for sure

[@Co2DaJo]

Yep, this video is pretty accurate to the piece of crap IC belt I bought years ago from a Pakistan seller. My plates are damn near tarnished at this point, and the strap cut is extremely sharp and ruff. You surely get what u pay for and I definitely wasted my $275 smdh!

[@TheBergBlog]

It's too bad because there really are some good makers.

[@DJReyzor357]

That belt is still better than all the WWE's current logo championships 👌

[@TheBergBlog]

I'm ok with the current WWEShop logo belts. Obviously, Id prefer the original WWF block logo on these classic belts, but it doesn't bother me to have the "Legends" WW

[@DJReyzor357]

I got that exact IC title 2 weeks ago thanks for your video review.

[@kickoutmedia9484]

We use custom Pakistan made belts for our small promotion because they are cheap and can take a beating. And I don't mind paying $140 for a replacement if one gets lost or stolen 😂 They have their uses!

[@TheBergBlog]

I'd love to see some pics!

[@KirksCORNER]

I like these better they actually use the wwf logo I hate the new logos

[@TheBergBlog]

I'm a sucker for the old WWF logo

[@ADAM_COLLECTS]

you’re mistaken about the gold finish, the maker wanted it to feel authentic, like Macho man’s belt, which was polished with bronzo, which stripped the gold finish😂😂😂

[@TheBergBlog]

haha! Oddly enough, this maker does make a specific "Brasso" belt in the style of the IC title that Macho Man ruined. This belt, however, was supposed to be pre-Brasso polishing

[@ADAM_COLLECTS]

@@TheBergBlog well that shoots my theory down

[@mikejohnson9497]

If he makes it right by you, you wanna sell this one?

[@TheBergBlog]

Yes, I'd sell it if he comes through with a new belt

[@swissbeats2k]

You can use a toothpick to remove the small paint imperfections on your plates btw.

[@TheBergBlog]

Appreciate the tip

[@AceGoodheart]

Dude you chose a bad belt maker from Pakistan and I hope you paid less than $300 for that belt. In fact, that belt is worth no more than $150 to $200. You can't attribute all Pakistan belt makers as garbage just because your belt was poor quality. If you love collecting wrestling belts then I'd say don't give up on Pakistan makers. You just gotta find the right ones. NAWAZ and MS Creations is a great start.

[@TheBergBlog]

I'm definitely aware of the big makers (Nawaz, Altair, etc etc). This seller reached out to me and we made a deal. The issue I have is that there are sooo many makers and people new to the hobby or those who aren't as detailed may not know what to expect if they don't use one of the big name makers.

[@TheMainmannc]

Use brasso on it like macho did....

[@TheBergBlog]

thinking about it