The Truth about Grappling in Self Defense | John Danaher and Joe Rogan Go Out for Lunch

In this video, we discuss the reality of BJJ, wrestling and other grappling arts in self defense or street fights. Looking for John Danaher explains BJJ to Joe Rogan? How about John Danaher explains breadsticks to Joe Rogan?
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[@hard2hurt]

If you want to see the sketch by itself or share it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/r5jFeGZ3qqiGfLc

[@justinv4036]

Thankyou. I feel like everyone whos familiar either of those guys need to see that. Or perhaps anyone whos ever just given up control and eaten pizza...

[@88Spint]

Oooh BJJ in the STREET. Somehow I read in the Sheet, now that got me really interested. Cant say I care for it on the street. Don't wanna get dirty after all xD

[@tomaszzielinski6231]

Grappling, antygrappling, fine. But Hollywood will not wait for you forever. You rob us from comedies with you. Or maybe just s stand-up? I mean it!

[@manuelnunez8802]

Have you considered doing stand up, Mike? You're a great instructor and ultra entertaining as well. I literally almost choked on my cereal the first time I saw the John Danaher routine with the bread sticks.

[@EmpiricalTruth]

The Danaher impression is soooooo good.

[@dy--dx]

Holy shit that Danaher impression was spot on

[@alexthegordonhighlander1159]

What took it next level I thought was how Mike reshaped his mouth into that wide flat semi-frown, typical of an intellectual Brit. The man is a thespian!

[@cognito8325]

@@alexthegordonhighlander1159 Danahar isn't/wasn't a brit ever. He was born in New Zealand

[@alexthegordonhighlander1159]

@@cognito8325 I know bro, but the stoic mouth shape is classic English university professor in my experience. I've seen it lots! Danaher does it. That's all. 🍻

[@mr.doctorcaptain1124]

@@cognito8325 I dont think he was saying, "Like the Englishman he is." I think he was saying, "Like how an Englishman does it, an expression John uses."

[@GMunoz-oj5zb]

The funny thing is that is very likely Danaher could've had that conversation about breadsticks LOL

[@sharpshooter9407]

I like how Joe Rogan's impression is just Icy Mike talking slowly.

[@hard2hurt]

I couldn't really do one. I just shoved a wad of paper in my mouth and didn't move my hands.

[@adityakshenoy1990]

' a Karen' meets mike would be a perfect joe rogan

[@sharpshooter9407]

@Schöner Albtraum nah man. The impression was simple yet so spot on

[@jackcaptain5476]

@@hard2hurt I'm a kiwi, bravo on the accent.

[@suviseshbharadwaj7206]

@@hard2hurt à la Marlon Brando 👍

[@Captain_Dick_Swett]

I love how Danaher literally goes everywhere in a rash guard, and has casual rashguards and fancy rashguards in case of fancy dinners etc

[@letsgojake.4078]

Someone posted him in his “fancy” rashguard. It was just a rashguard. Id love to hear his philosophy on what makes a fancy one.

[@wilfwalker659]

@@JD2jr. probably people’s tears as well actually

[@Julesgio]

I would assume that someone that does that, is mentally ill.

[@conorfields604]

An actor

[@pinoysatoshi3754]

I want more Danaher impressions please. It brings joy to my life.

[@diegonavoni3133]

Can we talk about this man full commitment to his art that he fully shaves to make a better John Danaher performance?

[@hard2hurt]

I really didn't want to lol

[@eschelar]

Arguably Oscar worthy though...

[@lucasfilmfan]

A Christian Bale esque transformation for the role.

[@HeavyCrown316]

What about kickboxing for the street

[@jezebulls]

Even found Danaher’s famous lizard rash guard. I didn’t even realize he chopped off the beard. That’s commitment right there

[@s1r155]

"Why would you ignore 15 percent of a slice of pizza." That Danaher impression was spot on, Icy Mike is hilarious

[@jrwhere5310]

But it’s true tho! Both on JRE and H2H, it makes sense to me. But I’ve legitimately never been in a fight or competition

[@reptilesgamers00]

Yeah it made my day

[@malakatan3235]

Because you don't have enough time to eat them?

[@O4C209]

This line changed my life.

[@JamesMBC]

"Name one thing you've never done, but you can defitively do" - Dying

[@TStawinoga]

So the riddle has been cracked!

[@caiokf]

touché

[@snakethepeg7828]

Definitely sure I could beat a 4 year old at chess

[@forgottenrights351]

Most baseball players have never thrown a rock at someone, but I bet they'd be pretty good at it.

[@daveyjones585]

Spot on with the anti grappling. Too many people I know who don’t train for some reason believe that they’ll be able to defend against takedowns and submission grappling even though they’ve never trained a day in their lives.

[@FR-ty5vn]

That’s why they can believe that - just one day rolling at Jiu Jitsu will change their whole world 😂

[@adels.185]

This guy has the best impressions of people I've ever seen, it's a sign of very high intelligence

[@williamcardenas177]

@@sinaparsi6736 john danaher

[@hallowzone4681]

@@sinaparsi6736 John Danaher. If you haven’t seen any of him you should. He’s an extremely smart and talented Jiu Jitsu grappler, and is extremely knowledgeable in other disciplines as well. He also has a master’s degree in philosophy

[@jinyow5581]

@@sinaparsi6736 Make sure you are wide awake ...😉

[@pranakhan]

@@jinyow5581 Yes, at any skill level, Danaher will make you feel purely imbecilic when he speaks. Impression was fucking uncanny

[@TruJesus]

Untouchable

[@gluehuffer6955]

I'm convinced Mike just wanted to show his impeccable Danaher impression and created the whole video around it. Because he's a big believer in the idea.

[@bradmerriman8319]

Norm Mcdonald invented Celebrity Jeopardy so he could do Burt Reynolds.

[@piratetech3722]

@@bradmerriman8319 turd ferguson

[@letsgojake.4078]

Its TOTALLY possible

[@WhtMike2006]

😂😂😂

[@carpmma5132]

It is a really good impression 😂,

[@fightscience]

Smashed the intro Sir. Loved the critical reasoning.

[@hard2hurt]

I've got you on the list

[@ZymixProductions]

Hey Mr. Fight Science! Good to see you here.

[@zaferozveren1244]

@ 😬

[@kissPANCRASION]

@@hard2hurt let’s go😂😂😂

[@psychologienerd7546]

pseudo-critical

[@excollector9963]

"I feel like nothing I say is going to be right." This is the correct response to most martial arts debates. Also, "You'd have no control," is the most common counter point. Good stuff all around.

[@AveSicarius]

I mean fighting, like many things, has optimal method's, there are always going to be some techniques that are superior in some situations. In regards to self-defence the best preparation is probably going to be learning something like catch wrestling that gives you takedown defense/offense while also training submissions, you aim to stay standing as long as possible while doing as much damage as you can. Traditional Karate and Traditional Boxing look very similar, they were both hybrid striking grappling styles which aimed to stay standing while striking from an upright grappling position. Why were they like this? Because the most common self-defence situation was multiple opponents (bandits or thieves attacking in groups) who would charge you and try to take you down so their friends can easily beat you up or kill you while you can't defend yourself. This is a method of fighting that has arisen in almost every civilization where unarmed combat methods are a thing (many Kung Fu styles are very similar to this, as is Muay Boran, Ancient Greek Pankration, and so on), stand-up grappling with some striking, and the methods arose independently in many cases because the optimal method of defending the human body is always going to be the same. What is the most dangerous situation you are going to face against multiple assailants (which is the thing you should be preparing for)? Being taken down and ganged up on while you are the floor. We already know the best method for dealing with this. This is the primary reason why going to the floor intentionally is risky if you aren't sure your opponent is alone, and it's why your best option when taken down if you are uncertain about your opponent having friends or not is to try to get back up if possible or to deal damage as quickly as possible so you can achieve the former after. This is going to be the optimal way to defend yourself because it reduces risk in multiple opponent scenarios, reduces risk from armed opponents (e.g. going to the floor with a knife in play can end very badly), and the style of fighting is generally effective against a single unarmed opponent and you can submit them while standing if necessary. There is always a correct answer to a question when sufficient evidence is present to support that answer.

[@grodygibsonlcd8038]

I believe having ground defense is simply great, but personally I wouldn’t wanna fill my brain with every BJJ technique. I just want to be able to escape grappling situations or counter them. Instead of submitting someone I’d rather go for the whole knee on belly setup or mount them while I go for elbow strikes and hammer fists. Instead of mounting someone after a takedown, try and stomp them out at a weak spot if they can’t reach you. Stomping sometimes isn’t viable against a skilled opponent unless you slam them hard enough and injure them enough, knock the wind out of them, ECT At the same time street fight scenarios aren’t always dog eat dog. Sometimes a dipshit gets mad and wants to swing on you, and you become the dipshit if you go for brutal kill moves. Just kick them in the nuts and be done with it 🤣 Most dudes just ape swing, so hook kick their jaw- if you train enough the average opponent won’t even react to the kick. Side kick their bladder. Feint with some decent jabs to keep their guard up so you can pull off that side kick. Personally I think self defense is all about set ups and openings, combination attacks and techniques, mixing offense with defense, ETC It’s all trickery and not playing fair. I think it’s great to learn BJJ because if you get SLAMMED or you fall over, or your opponent shoots for the leg- it’s good to know the counters and defenses just in case dude wants to wrestle more than swing. However in a street fight setting I’m not gonna do BJJ style unless they’re very specific wrist or joint locks. I’d rather elbow someone in the face than break their arm when I have them in a triangle. I’d rather kick at their shins and their crotch while my back is on the ground and they’re trying to pursue me. I’d rather have that distance so I can roll my back rather than risking more injury by rolling around or going for a sweep while my back is on the ground. Self defense is also about absolute safety and reducing the risk of injury. Instead of fighting, diffuse the situation or GTFO Sometimes in order to GTFO, you might have to “strike first” to reduce risk of injury. If they threaten you enough, give them a Bruce Lee style back fist to the jaw, or maybe a nice gentle throat chop, maybe an elbow backfist to stagger them in some way- maybe you can follow the strikes up with a hip throw so they fall in their ass. Once they’re on their ass, just leave. TBH a good BOP to the jaw will make anyone piss off if the impact is great enough and the speed is great enough.

[@MyZ001]

@@grodygibsonlcd8038 "I’d rather elbow someone in the face than break their arm when I have them in a triangle. I’d rather kick at their shins and their crotch while my back is on the ground and they’re trying to pursue me. I’d rather have that distance so I can roll my back rather than risking more injury by rolling around or going for a sweep while my back is on the ground. Self defense is also about absolute safety and reducing the risk of injury." Yea, if you train BJJ that's a self defense based system, like Gracie jiu jitsu/Gracie Combatives, you drill and train to do exactly what you mentioned. What most people consider, when thinking bout BJJ for a street fight, is sport/competition based BJJ. And of course, a trained BJJ player will still smash an untrained person. But, as you mentioned, it doesn't put you in the most ideal situations. A few things though. A triangle doesn't effect the arm. The pressure of the arm is used to choke the person out. So, if you have a triangle locked up, you definite want to finish it instead of throwing elbows. Put them to sleep, and you can do whatever TF you want! And a "sweep" if you're on your back is to get you to the mount on top of them. Now, you can start raining down strikes or GTF up and get that distance if you want. But if you're in that dominant position, I wouldn't give it up unless they have friends around

[@andrewmiranda5115]

Some people are super annoying with their “I would just do this or that” theories in a fight when they have never even experienced any kind of physical assault. Especially from a trained person.

[@kasra5096]

nope it's actually very effective. it's called Just-Jutsu.

[@theredninja2817]

Thank you

[@theredninja2817]

@@kasra5096 nnoooooppppe

[@williamcardenas177]

@@kasra5096 nice

[@williamcardenas177]

@@riskybitness yeah

[@Stahlvanten]

The only way to anti grapple is to know grappling.

[@unkownboi67is_unavailable62]

Or be a fucking good Cage wrestler with crazy ass takedown defense

[@jsecretbroadcasts]

@@unkownboi67is_unavailable62 you basically just agreed with him brother. Wtf people always trying to be contrarian

[@Jordan-lu2un]

@@jsecretbroadcasts agreed

[@jastib]

@@jsecretbroadcasts the guy got a monkey as a pic, what did you expect lol

[@serbronnoftheblackwater798]

@@jsecretbroadcasts yeah dude that shits everywhereeee... No matter what you say some idiot is gonna come along and try his best to contradict just for the sake of trying to seem smarter than you or has some secret ancient knowledge

[@GodEmperor_]

As a Kiwi (New Zealander) people who try to do our accent sound more Australian but damn this was spot on.

[@listrahtes]

The whole "street fights end on the ground" developed out of Gracie marketing of their GJJ as the best for self defense. Especially with Gracie Combatante. As they suck at stand up it kinda came with the martial art to focus on ground game. Its nonsense but worked to get paying customers into their gyms or even better for Reners online graduations. It stuck with the public. Most street fights dont involve lots of skills so the important part is getting used to a confrontation. Regarding that any full contact sparring ma will do. If its about a grappling art my first choice would be wrestling.

[@listrahtes]

@NK we are talking about streets If you dont get sucker punched or attacked from behind its over in seconds and 99 % of time its some fool. One takedown on concrete ends near any fight. If not some ellbows and its over for stand up learn one go to move. Never just one punch. Drill that and you should be fine if you can control your Adrenalin. If you do a full contacr ma you will be in better physical condition. I would never invest months of training just for self defense. If thats so important move somewhere else or think about weapons

[@ryanliu6694]

"why would you ignore 100% of the video?" -Mike @ ppl who argue with stuff he hasn't said

[@hard2hurt]

That's pretty good.

[@ryanliu6694]

@@hard2hurt that's the joke I expected you to make in the video

[@lowlowseesee]

@@ryanliu6694 oh yea, thats Grand

[@jacobnetzler568]

As a kiwi - his accent is shockingly good haha Crack up mate, good shit

[@hard2hurt]

It's a tough one... i was worried i would just sound south African or Australian

[@Willakhstan]

@@hard2hurt at some point it's all basically the same. As an Aussie, if someone asked me to do a more Aussie accent (okker), somehow I end up doing a Commonwealth mashup.

[@slayerbot1394]

i thought it was pretty good too! Normally it comes across as more Aussie more than anything, but this mirrored John's quite well

[@RenegadeRanga]

@@hard2hurt I'm an Aussie and that was good mate.

[@BenjiQ575]

@@hard2hurt The biggest difference between Australian and South African and Kiwi is that Kiwis and South Africans use "e" instead of "a" in words where "a" is used in the same manner of asshole, castle, bath. So Kiwis and South Africans would say "esshole" "cestle" and "beth" whereas Australians pronounce is "arsehole" "carstle" and "barth". It's a lot harder to differentiate between South African and Kiwi, for me, anyway.

[@frozencloudzzful]

"Grappling dont work because you could get kicked in the head" wich is why i pull guard so my homies can kick my opponent in the head.

[@letsgojake.4078]

Yeah. Just tell the whole crew ahead of time. “Anybody starts with me, Im going to my back and teeing you up.”

[@limp_dickens]

Why would you fight a guy who doesn't have any friends? That's just mean.

[@GhostCat-zc2gj]

Whether you really do this or not It's TRUE nobody should go to the ground in a real fight because of just what you said

[@anftrew3775]

I left a particular martial arts school after 5 years because apparently they make sure they don't end up on the ground. I knew this was a massive flaw in their system and I was cool with that because I knew I could cover the weaknesses of that style by going elsewhere for the grappling. It was only when I realised that black belt was getting close for me, and they had this creepy cult like oath of allegiance that you had to declare for black belt that I decided I can honestly stand their and lie in front of all the people I'd trained with for years by saying I'd never train with any other school. I don't regret going there, I got a lot of kickboxing ability that I didn't have before, but it strangely felt like cheating on someone to say I was exclusive while secretly also going elsewhere for the bits they couldn't offer.

[@sunte91]

Scary/uncomfortable stuff! Nice that you got away from a controlling and cultish environment. Good luck in future endeavors 💪🏻 👍🏻

[@draysmusicalshtposts6340]

Certainly an odd practice on their end. Cross training is awesome.

[@johnmaco]

There are really good arguments why you must not end up on the ground (criminals almost always have partners, they have knives, the hard floor, etc), and they teach KB so it was good from their side, but declaring that you must not train other arts? Yeah, that was really bad

[@lale5767]

There is a guy Shaun Raudie who trains people in Tampa Florida who said the same thing that some people he met who wouldn't mention stuff to their instructers and peers.

[@joshuahogan3475]

And then there is my style where we are actively encouraged to train in other styles and bring back what we learned. The idea being you will either see why what you learned from us works so well or you will learn something useful and then use it to improve what we have. Hopefully both.

[@WillofStone08]

I refuse to believe you don't practice these impressions intensively

[@victorwagner2423]

"Name ONE thing you can get good at without doing it."

[@Grandmas_Favorite]

I mean anyone whose good at anything practices that thing in some form or another... Even those naturally talented individuals...

[@humorlessclown]

@@victorwagner2423 - I want your comment to have as many likes as OP’s 🤣👍🏼

[@lowlowseesee]

@@victorwagner2423 hahahahahahahaahahah boss

[@1individeo]

@@victorwagner2423 dying

[@DMurdock]

"You have to go to wrestling practice which, again, sucks." This man speaks to my heart.

[@kaiceecrane3884]

Wrestling practice is great! Just the noise and heat that sucks, rest of it is fun

[@Jonathan-A.C.]

@@kaiceecrane3884 I can’t stand the squeak of shoes lol

[@someguynamedgod2342]

It depends on the person ig, I love wrestling but I hate the solely conditioning sessions, they bore me

[@thebigmanufacturer]

Wrestling practice is home. Nothing i love more. Shit sucks tho lmao just absolutely blows. 2 hours of hard cardio idk how tf i did that shit as a kid. 5 days a week 4 months a year fucking ridiculous. Its the best though. Cant find that environment anywhere else.

[@showmae8459]

"Why would you ignore 50% of Drugs" Joe "DMTJJ" Danaher

[@FightCommentary]

Talking about great impressions!

[@tehfuqizg0inon588]

His Danaher is on point lol

[@Awesomenesspersonified]

his accent is a bit off

[@MasTiempoPorFa]

@@Awesomenesspersonified only on certain words, overall better than most for sure

[@BlacK40k]

Mike without a Beard looks like such a nice guy, totally deceiving

[@mariuszsz5986]

You kidding? First time I saw Mike and J without beards I thought They're scarry!

[@danielsales4902]

💀

[@hourglas]

@@mariuszsz5986 but like creepy scary not intimidating scary.

[@paavohirn3728]

@@hourglas 😅

[@revariox189]

@@hourglas Creepy like the kinda guy already in your bed when you lift up the blankets and you're like wtf is this dude doing here creepy!!

[@shootoman]

You summarized it perfectly. It has always annoyed me, how lots of people see these things being so black and white and they assume that it´s always you´re decision to go or not to go to the ground. Well, it can be your decision, but that requires that you have trained lots of grappling. A real grappling, not some bs anti-grappling techniques that doesn´t work and never did.

[@Bpg2001bpg]

One can train how to avoid a takedown, and how to escape a grapple and safely get back up, without spending all her training hours grappling.

[@wynsonrao5177]

@@Bpg2001bpg no one said all of your time has to be grappling. There's a world of space between zero grappling training and training it 24/7, and if you want to defend against grappling you have to do more than zero. Duh

[@Nightman9001]

The people who think they "won't go to the ground" have never slipped on a patch of ice / unseen object / tripped on a night table / etc. etc. - You don't need to CHOOSE to go to the ground to end up there, and that's WITHOUT someone trying to kick your ass lmfao. I'm just getting into BJJ but I did Judo for ... meh not very long, maybe 6 months in my early 20s, and let me tell you... Well, I don't need to tell YOU, but it becomes painfully clear how little control the untrained individual has on whether or not they stay on their own two feet in a fight. I was so proud of myself the first time I blocked a hip toss (I hadn't learned the move yet but got it instinctively) - made my damn day lol. Edit: Changed "Countered" for "blocked" because I misspoke.

[@anon2427]

@@Nightman9001not very light on your feet I see

[@theazoutlaw364]

Some VERY good points made. I've never liked using ground grappling in street fights because I've been jumped so many times while in a 1 vs 1 fight. The thought process that not every person you fight is going to be someone you want to hurt is intelligent though, and understanding takedowns can save you from ending up on your ass.

[@Ne-ne7qo]

Bro, there are so many rocks and holes in the asphalt in my neighborhood that if someone goes to the ground around here they would probably die from blood loss lol

[@theazoutlaw364]

@@Ne-ne7qo I'm in Arizona, imagine hitting asphalt thats been in 110 degree sunlight for 8 hours lmao

[@-whackd]

You should get out of whatever hellhole you live in if you're frequently being attacked and jumped. You must be really poor and live in some homeless camp or something? Earn some money.

[@messgiuliano9277]

A random bald guy wearing a rashguard: Litterally everybody: Hey it's John Danaher!

[@jezebulls]

But it’s Danaher’s famous lizard rash guard

[@lowlowseesee]

honestly if you grapple seeing white dudes who are bald in RGs is every day. what made his shit so fucking spot on before he even spoke is that is an actual Danaher rashguard hahaha. i think

[@MasTiempoPorFa]

@@lowlowseesee it's the one he wore on JRE I believe

[@hard2hurt]

Question for viewers: breadsticks or nah?

[@deivytrajan]

Breadsticks are a 4 way system...

[@ronytheronin7439]

Is that a trick question?

[@RamonChiNangWong078]

garlic bread all the way

[@integratedfightingarts]

Nah, they're just pizza dough byproducts.

[@mariuszsz5986]

Yes. Garlic and cheese breadsticks.

[@aesop2733]

Fighting advice is like relationship advice. You can give all the right answers and have it all be true for you and still set someone up for failure. Everything is situational.

[@cosmokramer7396]

That sounds like something you would hear on a Seinfeld comedy bit.

[@energywiz]

One anti- grappling argument I hate is the multiple opponent argument. Which imo misses the point on why people train. You train not to be humiliated. If one person comes and attacks you you’re not completely helpless, even if you’re with your friends. Watch the video of the guy beating up a guy and his dad both at the same time and they’re both standing their clueless. You don’t want to be there in that situation ever. You’ll never recover physiologically from that. If I ever get attacked by a group and I lose so be it, that’s life but at least it’s not humiliating it’s just an unfair fight. People don’t train for safety because it’s really rare to be killed in a street fight, people train for their pride and honour. Some may call it ego.

[@critical2apps]

Saying “i wont learn grappling because i dont want to go to the ground in a street fight” is like saying “i wont learn striking because i dont want to get punched in the face in a street fight”

[@mivids100]

Well said

[@manichighway5986]

Very well put

[@3starbadman]

"Just don't get punched bro, easy peasy"

[@craigcrissman4651]

I'd never get hit in fight, I'd just sit down

[@moonseal0558]

Mike As Usual Coming in clutch with the impressions

[@deivytrajan]

how is he so good at it?

[@peacebalancetruth]

@@deivytrajan 💪😏🤝 _It is what it is_

[@N2tao]

Simply brilliant video. I thoroughly enjoyed it. I've had to to argue the same points you make far too many times; but, never have I been able to do so in such a clever and humorous way.

[@crossfitbilly]

Best video on grappling's effectiveness and shortcomings that I have ever seen. Love the Danaher skit, When I heard the voice, I had to look twice.... nailed it!

[@randomfocus1549]

you gotta ask yourself, what percentage of “street fights “ involve alcohol..? Best defense is therefore not drinking, you wont get all emo and think your manhood is being challenged while sober. Sounds cliche but avoid all confrontations but have some skills incase you cant avoid them.

[@ryanbarclay7939]

This. Life got so much better when I had to stop alcohol.

[@jlogan2228]

I never did take up drinking, just Wasnt my thing, and yea its really annoying how 8/10 people you meet the first thing they want to do for "fun" is go drinking.

[@basteagui]

@@jlogan2228 i only drink because people get mad if you don't drink at a gathering. keep it at a minimum though. for sure alcohol is terrible it drops your iq to 0

[@franciscofeest6691]

At 34 i just drink some beers and eat tasty food on weekends. I like being productive

[@basteagui]

if you guys are into tactical thinking this way, check out the channel called active self protection. the host john correia goes over footage of altercations, a lot of them involve alcohol. great channel!

[@punkxblaze]

Breadstick theory is my new life philosophy.

[@BeerCityBandit]

... why?

[@albolvo]

@@BeerCityBandit because only you can decide if you want a wet soggy bite or a more dry and chewy bite. Life is your breadstick. Dip it like you want.

[@alst4817]

Hard2hurt this is a great presentation, good work

[@tommytwaddle8601]

That John Danaher impression was so insanely accurate! Cracked me up so much I had to watch it multiple times.

[@gabelonguinhos]

"there's no anti-grappling. It's just... grappling." I don't even know anything about self-defense but I appreciate this guy's humor and intelligence

[@lastnamefirstname6700]

“How can two opposing statements both be untrue” that encapsulates all of misunderstanding martial arts

[@stepheninczech]

BJJ in the street is great. I got attacked about 13 years ago by a bigger drunk guy and it went to the ground. It was frighteningly easy to incapacitate him as a blue belt at the time. Ended up sitting on the guy until the cops came and sued him. The security video went viral. I suppose if there had been 2 guys it would have been a different story, but in most situations you're fighting someone 1 on 1. I've only once had to deal with multiple opponents and in those cases you would not engage at all (unless you're like some kind of pro boxing wizard).

[@Sam-rb1id]

I've beat 2-3 guys a couple of times. I'm a pretty poor club level boxer. I'm also pretty big and strong (114kg) and both times my 'opponents' were drunk and didn't know anything. It was pretty easy honestly. If you are big its totally viable. Would be different if I tried a take down though ...

[@stepheninczech]

@@Sam-rb1id Wait, just to be clear, you beat 2 or 3 guys at the same time a couple times?

[@Sam-rb1id]

@@stepheninczech yup and it wasn’t that hard

[@stepheninczech]

@@Sam-rb1id Fucking awesome.

[@Sam-rb1id]

@@stepheninczech my point is really that knocking out guys that are smaller weaker untrained and most likely drunk (in my experience that’s when people tend to act up) is not nearly as hard or complicated as people think. Box for 6 months and lift weights 3-4 times a week and you just have a huge advantage

[@user-sy8ls6mt3q]

This is such a great video! Summarizes pretty much everything.

[@dr.fistingstein1566]

"It's all the same shit in a different toilet" - nomination for content creator quote of the year

[@maciejstanczyk6663]

Might be the best impression so far. By the way, in one of two self-defense situations I've ever had I've just clinched up with the guy and beat him up there, despite that not being my game AT ALL. It was just that my shitty clinch game was still better than his non-existent one. That's the big advantage of grappling - most people are clueless about it, so if you know what you are doing, even while being bad at it, you have a massive advantage.

[@idontwantahandlewtf]

My whole thing has always been: fake a jab, shoot the double leg, sit my fat ass on top of you and just start smashing. Never works against anyone who knows anything about wrestling, but works wonders on those who don't know shit, which has been most people I've fought.

[@meaningfulmindfulness15]

I see a variety of these things at the bar. Bartending has allowed me to witness a vast array of skill sets put against each other. Drunken brawls aside, people who haven't had any kind of training seem to rely a lot on instinct and because of the conflict happening so fast, they tend to use straight up fundamentals. It's good to see other people sharing their realistic experiences. 🤝 (Also, his impersonation is distracting the hell out of me right now. Lol)

[@beezelsub]

@@idontwantahandlewtf ok, 😺

[@dylanandrejic4902]

@@idontwantahandlewtf why are you even getting into fights against dudes with no experience? You sound like a punk or a bully to me.

[@restricttheopennotes]

@@dylanandrejic4902 id assume cause fights happen and not everyone has the experience he has. He sounded like he was just grateful in those situations, cause fights can be scary even with years of experience.

[@eddieshannon6880]

I love your channel!!!! Very humbling

[@Type1civ]

This is incredible. Thank you for making this.

[@tristinlloyd131]

He definitely eats pizza with a fork and knife 😭😭😭

[@domiz1813]

"Its all the same shit in a different toilet " Icy mike 2021

[@ParkAndRoll]

I used to not like your videos but now i realized youre one of the best ones out there.Keep up the good work!!

[@Ruaokaiwhare]

Your take on John Danaher is just “Gold”.

[@ArchieSuave]

The Danaher open-ended question was so dead on.

[@Iserior]

"Name a skill you can be good at without practice." Shit-talking.

[@plutoloco2378]

Oh hell no. I can’t do it. I get tongue tied. It’s absolutely a skill.

[@thegreatboppilini9006]

*Chael Sonnen has entered the chat

[@yyyboy]

Dying?

[@dankmemesdeaddreams2309]

People talk everyday, that's practice

[@timroberts917]

I resent this. We practice all the time.

[@scottyg5403]

Those impressions are scary good! Also excellent content! Thanks

[@msacwadokikai3200]

True statement. Jiujitsu not only teaches how to take someone down it also teaches how to defend against it and get back up.

[@LeyvatenLoop]

"Name one thing you can get good at without ever practising it"? That's easy. Getting yourself beaten up.

[@AntonAdelson]

Haven't you seen Fight Club? Not that easy!

[@LeyvatenLoop]

@@AntonAdelson Fair point

[@SwordWieldingDuck]

Well i can probably shit very well?

[@dylanrexrode]

How would you know that you were good at getting beaten up without doing on a regular basis though? What would being good at getting beaten up look like? Would it mean you were skilled at reducing damage to vital areas of your body for a longer beating? Would it be that you were skilled at getting knocked out in one hit? What constitutes being "good" at getting beaten up?

[@kravvormagagor9595]

Such attention to detail with the mouth noises an everything. If I was your attacker you could easily incapacitate me with impressions. More of this please. You murdered that chewjitsu vid also btw. How long did you practice your Danaher to prepare for this?

[@Geezuse]

Whats the chewjitsu meme?

[@DANSABEATS]

@@Geezuse I believe that video is called "BJJ Is Not Designed For Small People".

[@tapthatt2012]

Finally rediscovering your videos. Too funny! And informative!

[@easttxkravmaga]

May be one of my favorite videos you've ever done. Fantastic description.

[@IHateHandleNames]

Bas Rutten said something along the lines of "not all fights end up on the ground, but if you're in a fight that does you'll need to know how to do something there whether it's get up, go for a submission, or just keep your opponent from getting where you dont want them to be." Bjj is a very good way to make the best of a situation that ends up on the ground, and even if you have no intention of 'ground fighting' you'll need to keep doing stuff that works if you find yourself grounded for whatever reason.

[@jerryjerry4369]

Simple but ture, strike wrestling ground those we need to learn, than we can escape or defend

[@jerryjerry4369]

My coach told me that we better learn more 😆

[@theghost449]

To be honest, Wrestling practice is the most fun and interesting type of training in my opinion I just absolutely love it

[@cbeaudry4646]

It's also the best

[@BradAcquilin]

Great motivational vid!

[@biohazard0119]

I always think that you should know both striking and grapling. You never know when you will need which one and if you need to run away or subdue someone you may want to strike or grapple.

[@Snake_holiday]

man you've got a real talent for impressions, well done once again

[@tridoc99]

The Danaher impression was awesome! Saying you don’t need to learn takedowns because you will never go to the ground is like saying “I don’t need to learn how to strike , because I can block.”

[@justinlorenzana3460]

Isn't it more like "I don't need to learn how to block, because I won't strike"? Solid point tho

[@jasonbrewer9783]

Oh man! This video is excellent! The whole thing! Very informative and entertaining!

[@robertmiller8110]

This was so spot On and amazing!

[@jack5593]

"Gravity doesn't work on me, I learned anti-gravity."

[@alexgac1801]

There's no anti-gravity, it's just gravity used to fight gravity ! The only way to become good at anti-gravity is to go to gravity school and learn to be attracted by things again and again up to the point where you become good enough to counter gravity, and then attract the planet yourself !

[@chuchoelroto2229]

@@alexgac1801 LMAO I'm fucking dying.

[@normanhornstein6818]

I don’t think people factor pain accurately when they “imagine” how a street fight would happen. Any fight hurts. Cut your knees on the ground, let them land the elbow to the spine, let them punch up at you off their back.

[@3starbadman]

@@matterking1 That's the funny part. Everyone thinks they're the main character in a Steven Seagal movie when in fact they're just the extra who gets their head bounced on the turf

[@lowlowseesee]

fortunately for me...im 40 and been doing martial arts on and mostly off for two decades or more and I disabused myself of so many of those myths by training with so many people with actual fights and of course watching a ton of mma. i recently lost a street fight and my fucking pinky still hurts, my nose is still fucked up, i have scars on my arm neck and face and my thumb is fucked lol. fighting in the street is no fucking joke. dangerous as hell

[@bane3991]

You can cut your knees on the ground but that's a small price to pay for defending yourself. It's very hard for them to elbow your spine. They can punch off their back but they'll be really weak punches that won't do much anything. It's very, very rare to see anyone knock someone out from the bottom in a street fight or even in MMA. There are always risks but if you are trained those risks will be minimized greatly especially as you gain more and more skill.

[@brighambaker3381]

Great points. I've always told friends who are getting started that outside of sport or training, a person should try to stay off the ground, but better have an idea of what to do if it happens.

[@Nightman9001]

Yeah, especially since most surfaces you're going to fall on are extremely hard. Pavement and concrete are two of the most common things you'll fall on outdoors, and indoors unless it's a couch or a bed you're only marginally better off. Not exactly mats or canvas. You should stay on the ground if only because getting there might kill you on its own with a bit of bad luck - or the guy you're trying to bring with you.

[@jhnnykid3805]

Love the videos!!!!!!!!

[@mrfrack]

A PERFECT Danaher impression and great points about so called “anti-grappling”. Well done Mike, well done.

[@alexthegordonhighlander1159]

Saw that rashguard in the thumbnail and new laughs were on tap! 🍻

[@Jaykuza609]

This is AMAZING and I’m disappointed it’s taken me until today to find this. Spot on Impersonation and lecture. Really enjoy your content.

[@leglocksandcrabrides]

My god that's perfect

[@raccoonmyroom6861]

RACCOON PERSPECTIVE: Humans: Will the fight go to the ground? Other Animals: Could this escalate to a bipedal confrontation?

[@shevetlevi2821]

Loved the "My Dinner with Andre" pizzeria booth part of it. I agree with Icy Mike about anti-grappling. After over 2 decades of mostly Okinawan karate and some kung fu we believed that our strikes were magic death rays that would drop a grappler before he got his hands on us. The martial arts world owes a great debt to the early UFCs and the Gracie family for that bitter slice of humble pie and it motivated me to train 3 years of BJJ, late in life but better than never. All of Mike's observations have merit as they usually do. The bottom line is that you really have to have a working knowledge of both striking and grappling. What's funny is that not infrequently when strikers lose their sh*t they rush in and grapple and when grapplers lose it they'll come out swinging. I had never heard of John Danaher so I just did a search for a video on YT and found one of him discussing BJJ prinicples with Joe Rogan. This completed this video for me and allowed to appreciate how hysterical it was.

[@joshuahogan3475]

What style of Okinawan Karate? My style has both takedowns and takedown defenses so hearing a version that has neither is just odd.

[@shevetlevi2821]

@@joshuahogan3475 Uechi ryu. We have footsweeps and in one of the bunkai there's an odd single leg takedown but beyond that I can't think of anything I'd call a takedown. What system do you train in?

[@joshuahogan3475]

@@shevetlevi2821 Shinjutsu Kempo. We have joint locks, several throws and sweeps, and a couple different variants of both double and single legs. There are also takedown defenses like the sprawl. Of course now that I think about it Grand Master Atchley the systems founder has 10 black belts including Judo. So some of that might have come from something else entirely. 😅

[@shevetlevi2821]

@@joshuahogan3475 Very interesting Joshua and it's easy to see the eclectic roots of your style. I love Uechi ryu but it's pretty much a striking system. For me personally I filled in the gaps with some judo when I was a kid, wrestling in high school and then 3 years of BJJ starting the week of my 60th birthday. Anyway, it sounds like a great system exposing you to so many martial arts.

[@stinkygoat2686]

Its crazy that some people need to hear this. The best self defense advice I ever got was from my buddy who had a philosophy degree. Just thinking about things with a bit of logic really dispels a lot of this. He also was a big proponent of "All fights end up on the ground" but that was his excuse to always train grappling and he talked about "well not all fights" cause a lot of fights end, before the end up on the ground aswell. Which was his excuse to train stand up aswell. His best advice was throw leg kicks. If the attacker doesn't train, which most don't, than they wont know how to defend. You might hurt em real bad, or they will drop their hands. That shit really works, like really well. Only street fight I was ever in I messed up a guys knee, then he agreed to stop. Though after like 5 minutes my budy was like "i just saw him do a line and hes sprinting after us". I was like "no way". My buddy was like "nah, look behind us". Sure enough there he was ready for round two. That time it ended with me throwing him to the ground and taking mount. Watching him beg for me to not beat his face is was pretty funny. I just sat on him in mount while he struggled to do anything, and eventually after like 5 minutes of realizing that he lost I let him up and sent him on his way. Good thing my buddy was there tho, cause when he got back up he asked me to fight again, my buddy was like dude, just go home, you lost twice, you really think round 3 will be different? Your already lucky my friend here didn't bludgeon you and you really want round 3? he will just beat your ass. That somehow convinced his ass to leave the opposite direction. For context, the guy I fought was sexually harassing a group of women and he didn't notice my friend and I so we intervened.

[@areallybigdwarf4560]

Ok he's trying to grapple you, he has the feat so he doesn't provoke the attack of opportunity, he's going to roll 1d20 plus whatever the crap his mods and bonus, then you are going to roll the same thing trying to defend yourself, if you roll better you can be the one grappling him.

[@canphan1375]

Just make sure your party mate is their to stab him while he grapples you. Honestly homebrew is a great way to balance grappling.

[@90extacy]

I wrestled in high school I was pretty average I didn't suck but I wasn't very good but I use that knowledge to not get taken down in fights and I feel pretty confident if I had to take someone down I could pretty easily but I prefer to strike

[@GMunoz-oj5zb]

@@90extacy WHy strike, just take him submit him and don't leave any mark

[@ryanwalker5979]

@@90extacy i heard you have no wrestling offense or hands

[@yyyboy]

@@GMunoz-oj5zb I wouldn't really trust the word of somebody who just attacked me. I'd be worried about them sucker punching me once I let them up. I don't know them and they've already proven that they aren't friendly or trushworthy. If I ended up on the ground with them I'd be more likely to try to choke them out, try to get back up on my feet or strike them until they're incapacitated (depending on the situation. 3rd parties etc). Generally I'd try to stay on my feet because you're much more vulnerable on the ground and you never know if and when other people will get involved.

[@GreenLighterStudios]

That Danaher impression was so good I almost fell off the toilet laughing 🤣

[@tinytreepublishing8383]

This was really fantastic!

[@Hormoz.]

AMAZING IMPRESSION. Spot on.

[@desmorris2193]

I really hope Danaher gets to see this 😂

[@Markperna1]

Bravo! I love your impressions. They are so on point. Great video and great points about grappling and so-called anti-grappling.

[@dabronx340]

I loved the skits thanks

[@pazza8421]

This is bloody phenomenal. Never mind the spot on impression, your JD script was dead on, nailed it!

[@jordanfrancisco27]

8:35 Sensei Icy Mike laying it down for us internet idiots. Love the content Sir! 👊👊👊

[@upgrayde]

"Why would I ignore 15% of a slice of pizza?" Lol

[@Qwerty-jy9mj]

Words to live by

[@davidjenkins3101]

hilarious video, great work

[@NinjaBusCow]

I had not heard of John Danaher but this was still very funny and informative.

[@Downhaven]

This was beautiful man, your Danaher is perfect!

[@moroc333]

If needles all over the floor is a big concern in your daily life, you're frequenting the wrong places and self-awareness is a skill way more important to develop than anti-graplling techniques

[@imthebestthingsinceslicedr5400]

I actually think thats the most important thing on self defense. Knowing your surroundings and be able to read the situation that can escalate into a brawl. Grappling has its places and its well said that you should also learn how to defend yourself against a take down. Chuck Lidel comes to my mind regarding this topic

[@boereburger6762]

100% spot on. Great video. Kepp em comming

[@JKDVIPER]

Great video! Funny! Educational. 🤛💯

[@paulthemediacreator]

I really hope Rogan sees this!

[@amiracleone2803]

Lol I love it best Danaher impression ever " why would I ignore 15% of a piece of pizza." 😂

[@SundarBJJ]

This is the greatest thing I’ve ever seen in my life

[@ProtienandIron]

This was awesome from start to finish.

[@Biomaterials_Science]

Amazing voice acting, I totally recognised the guy in the green leotard.