Best Martial Art for Self Defense: Striking or Grappling? | Eli Knight vs. Ryan Hoover

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hard2hurt

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@KnightJiuJitsu
@KnightJiuJitsu 5 жыл бұрын
Ok fine...this shit is funny.
@hard2hurt
@hard2hurt 5 жыл бұрын
I'm still working on a sequel but that accent of yours is all over the place. I thought you were from some bayou or trailer park somewhere and then i thought you were Canadian and then I thought maybe you had a little touch of something but I've just settled now on the Mackenzie Dern effect and you've spent a bunch of time around Brazilians.
@KnightJiuJitsu
@KnightJiuJitsu 5 жыл бұрын
hard2hurt - I have perfect non-regional diction 😊
@anthonygerber8261
@anthonygerber8261 5 жыл бұрын
You're a good sport Prof. Knight!
@oreocarlton3343
@oreocarlton3343 5 жыл бұрын
@@hard2hurt icy Mike youre killing me over here 😂😂😂
@jessicasnead7895
@jessicasnead7895 5 жыл бұрын
FT and pretty much anything gn touches does come off as arrogant. Even though he has backed a lot of fakes and frauds.
@iambecomejeff
@iambecomejeff 5 жыл бұрын
“Without warming up let me see you put your socks on” As a purple belt with a hurt knee, I relate to this on a spiritual level
@ezassegai4793
@ezassegai4793 5 жыл бұрын
that is so funny and my knees are still intact thats how inflexible I am at almost 30 haha
@Poleeze1
@Poleeze1 5 жыл бұрын
There’s still amazing human body response called fight or flight. It not just warms you up but actually heats you up in seconds. And this is scientifically proven.
@DevilDogMartialArts-
@DevilDogMartialArts- 4 жыл бұрын
@@Poleeze1 Ya, I've been training for 30 years, and I've been in a few fights when I was younger and in the Marines, but there is still limitations to your body's response. If you can't do a high roundhouse kick normally, you aren't doing one when you fight. If you need to warm up for 20 minutes to do it, you aren't doing it in a fight.
@Poleeze1
@Poleeze1 4 жыл бұрын
Koval Taekwondo if it’s something you can do, then you can do it in a fight. You might tear a muscle but you won’t know at the time. If it’s something you were never able to do, then you won’t do it cos u won’t even think of it and if you do, your body won’t respond
@DevilDogMartialArts-
@DevilDogMartialArts- 4 жыл бұрын
Poleeze1 if you pull a hamstring in a fight I promise you will notice
@jholmes45
@jholmes45 4 жыл бұрын
The part about bjj injuries is so spot-on. I started training in 2015 because I thought it would be easier on my joints than powerlifting. To this day that is probably the single dumbest thought I've ever had in my brain.
@ICU23000
@ICU23000 Жыл бұрын
hope your spine is still holding on 👍
@bobemperorofbobkind6004
@bobemperorofbobkind6004 Жыл бұрын
​@@ICU23000 I train bjj, I have to train my spine very well in order to not be injured
@The_Taiji_Viking
@The_Taiji_Viking 2 жыл бұрын
"Train the one you don't like for 6-12 months, then train the one you love for the rest of your life" is the most perfect summation I've ever heard, even after 30+ years of trying to answer it myself. Beautiful
@kaira4358
@kaira4358 4 жыл бұрын
4:10 so this is how coronavirus started
@hankm16
@hankm16 4 жыл бұрын
DEAD🤣🤣🤣
@notgonnaputmyrealname
@notgonnaputmyrealname 4 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly lmfaooo
@tex1982
@tex1982 4 жыл бұрын
Damm beat me too it hahahah
@jamese4117
@jamese4117 4 жыл бұрын
Was just waiting for this comment 😂
@FightCommentary
@FightCommentary 5 жыл бұрын
It's awesome to hear you talk about how the most nagging injuries are from Jiu Jitsu. Absolutely agree with that. It might be a gentle art, but it's not gentle on the body.
@MbisonBalrog
@MbisonBalrog 4 жыл бұрын
They also take longer to develop to point you realize something is wrong. With striking you know immediately you are hurt
@jholmes45
@jholmes45 4 жыл бұрын
They're also usually things you can still train with, so they take FOREVER to heal.
@TheJahool
@TheJahool 3 жыл бұрын
ya especially as a 150lb white belt male. it's like the huge guys have the "He's a dude he's fine" mentality and I'm 3 rib injuries in... Haha.
@bettybunbun9664
@bettybunbun9664 3 жыл бұрын
Tap early, tap often.
@MaxLohMusic
@MaxLohMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Be careful of the false sense of security with striking styles. Subconcussive blows to the head can cause dementia and CTE later in life. Always tell your sparring partner to go very light on the head, and as hard as they want anywhere else. As long as this requirement is followed, you should be safe. Sadly not many people follow it; lots of people assume if you congratulate them for a hard hit to the body it means they can hit you hard in the head.
@fighttips
@fighttips 5 жыл бұрын
Great, honest video coach. Love the whiteboard/punchers-chance part. And extra points for making me laugh like 5 times throughout the video 😆
@hard2hurt
@hard2hurt 5 жыл бұрын
So... it's important for you to understand that I really like and respect Ryan Hoover and Eli Knight. Because you can see that the more I like and respect a guy, the more I have to misrepresent him in parody. I just need you to understand that... because I really like and respect you.
@RFingaz69
@RFingaz69 3 жыл бұрын
When are you guys gonna collab???
@brianrahuba6919
@brianrahuba6919 2 жыл бұрын
@@hard2hurt So when you mock someone you like them ? Interesting veiw .
@stillenacht8518
@stillenacht8518 2 жыл бұрын
@@brianrahuba6919 Interesting and pandemic among men. Most guys I know, if they are poking fun at you, they like you. If they didn't, it wouldn't be poking fun, they'd just tell you you're an idiot. Probably not half as politely though 😹
@brianrahuba6919
@brianrahuba6919 2 жыл бұрын
@@stillenacht8518 LOL 🖕
@fionaleamy7681
@fionaleamy7681 5 жыл бұрын
You dont get to dictate where the fight happens Khabib has entered the chat
@TheDanielmeeks
@TheDanielmeeks 5 жыл бұрын
Fiona Leamy i might be wrong but I would have assumed anyone who has trained wrestling/jiu-jitsu for 6 months to a year would definitely dictate where the fight ends up against Joe Schmo.
@fionaleamy7681
@fionaleamy7681 5 жыл бұрын
You could be right but In a self defence situation there is no barrier that the person cant stop out of to block the takedown and a ju jitsu person could instinctively try and just sit on the ground which would result in being stomped annnnd the person you're against will probably have a knife so if you tried for a takedown you would be stabbed
@TheTyler701
@TheTyler701 5 жыл бұрын
Fiona Leamy that’s why people who pull guard are lame af.
@ihavetubes
@ihavetubes 5 жыл бұрын
until they pull a gun.
@MrLukeinthehouse
@MrLukeinthehouse 5 жыл бұрын
And Connor has left
@That0neGuySaid
@That0neGuySaid 5 жыл бұрын
Men: If you spend any amount of time in this position with a person on top of you, you're going to develop some issues. Women: ...
@korax2050
@korax2050 4 жыл бұрын
Women are more flexibel
@quensoueu1
@quensoueu1 4 жыл бұрын
Specially porn actresses lol
@de0509
@de0509 4 жыл бұрын
@@korax2050 some have reach, some have flexibility
@Titanfredi
@Titanfredi 4 жыл бұрын
Nailed it
@ekaterinab6064
@ekaterinab6064 2 жыл бұрын
you are not wrong
@4xdblack
@4xdblack 2 жыл бұрын
My ideal self defense martial art is whatever keeps me standing up, and my opponent on the ground.
@user-cz7wp4jz6n
@user-cz7wp4jz6n 4 ай бұрын
Weapon ?
@saltking2420
@saltking2420 5 жыл бұрын
Not only am I a ground fighter I fight under the ground straight worm style
@ryanhill5676
@ryanhill5676 5 жыл бұрын
salt king Worm guard
@complexblackness
@complexblackness 5 жыл бұрын
Damn Graboid style!
@DarkGodSeti
@DarkGodSeti 5 жыл бұрын
Fighting the ground itself! Striking is easy, but grappling just never works...
@ClarenceWilliams7
@ClarenceWilliams7 5 жыл бұрын
🤣😂🤣😂
@jeefsquaa
@jeefsquaa 5 жыл бұрын
@@ryanhill5676 Keenan over here 😂😂
@shaungriffith7548
@shaungriffith7548 5 жыл бұрын
Grappling is good to a degree. One on one it's great, against multiple opponents not so much. Grappling is good to know in case you are dealing with multiple opponents if you go to the ground, because it does allow you the advantage of knowing how to get back to your feet quickly. Striking allows a person the ability to move around making it relatively more difficult for attackers to get at you all at once.
@hard2hurt
@hard2hurt 5 жыл бұрын
Basically.
@JakeV.
@JakeV. 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the "keeping it real videos". I'm a Bjj guy but will be the first to admit striking is still needed
@hard2hurt
@hard2hurt 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah not much... but you at least need to be able to take a punch.
@SandaBoxing
@SandaBoxing 5 жыл бұрын
Punching while moving/circling + feinting knees, works well for me vs. grapplers. Lots of short punches with very few, committed to power. In the street, there will be eye jabs also.
@markJones-yz6ke
@markJones-yz6ke 5 жыл бұрын
Its called ground and pound baby!!!
@etherealentity7675
@etherealentity7675 5 жыл бұрын
Then your community is tainted.
@bruno4299
@bruno4299 5 жыл бұрын
@@SandaBoxing Bullshit.
@raweriio3306
@raweriio3306 4 жыл бұрын
The super disease joke did not age well.....
@LavenderChill
@LavenderChill 4 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@jinyow5581
@jinyow5581 4 жыл бұрын
It 's aged beautifully .What you talkin bout .😅
@nicholasfalls8108
@nicholasfalls8108 4 жыл бұрын
Right?
@thebutchernassa8384
@thebutchernassa8384 3 жыл бұрын
Goddamn it
@TheSurvivalOutpost
@TheSurvivalOutpost 3 жыл бұрын
Perfectly aged, your joking right?
@aldwincleofe6889
@aldwincleofe6889 4 жыл бұрын
How he kept a straight face with the "full frontal nudity armbar"
@joshuamclean2467
@joshuamclean2467 5 жыл бұрын
First thought: total douchebag, last thought: hilarious bad-ass......great video. Subscribed!
@hard2hurt
@hard2hurt 5 жыл бұрын
You weren't wrong haha.
@alkaneshiro1
@alkaneshiro1 5 жыл бұрын
🤣 same
@gaminghunt5837
@gaminghunt5837 3 жыл бұрын
@@hard2hurt ikr
@MrBilld75
@MrBilld75 3 жыл бұрын
A lot of people say that about him, that he's a douchebag, but really?! No, he's actually pretty level headed, down to earth and humble. He just has that same confidence that many Martial Artists have, which can be mistaken for being a cocky douchebag. You really ARE a douchebag, if you act like that constantly, he doesn't he dials in back in frequently. More than a lot of others actually.
@MrBilld75
@MrBilld75 3 жыл бұрын
@Dave O Yeah, I found a lot of Karate Instructors were like that when I was growing up and took it as a kid (only for about 3 years total, off and on). Especially the Instructors at the YMCA at the time, young guys, couldn't be more than early 20's and they were still in that Jock stage where they think they are "it". Lol. I think Mike, tempers that "fighter cockiness" with some deep thought and conversation and asking the audience what they think. And I think that's cool a lot of these guys don't care what you think, it's their show and you need to just shut up and listen.
@jackmurphy6510
@jackmurphy6510 5 жыл бұрын
I like the Groundhog Day sequence for knee on belly. The true bjj practitioner breaks their opponent not with their bodies, but through infuriating recursive loops.
@kovenmaitreya7184
@kovenmaitreya7184 5 жыл бұрын
This is so damn true haha! 😂
@somethinsomethin7243
@somethinsomethin7243 4 жыл бұрын
Ohhhhhh like aikido
@PRSer
@PRSer 5 жыл бұрын
The best self defense is calisthenics and parkour. Knowing you can run away from any bad shit about to happen to you at anytime is gold. Basic striking and grappling skills will of course serve you well too. Know enough to keep distance and bolt
@hard2hurt
@hard2hurt 5 жыл бұрын
We are working on a video on the mentality and strategy of running away.
@xringkiller
@xringkiller 5 жыл бұрын
Hopefully your wife and kids can keep up too.
@daddy5957
@daddy5957 5 жыл бұрын
@@xringkiller With a gun they won't have to ;)
@jordansaipaia7874
@jordansaipaia7874 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, I can imagine you walking down street at night with your lady.... thugs approach... You lady is accosted while you are somersaulting over parked cars.. Best self defense indeed.
@IrelandVonVicious
@IrelandVonVicious 5 жыл бұрын
@@jordansaipaia7874 No worries his boyfriend also does Parkour.
@mcjon77
@mcjon77 3 жыл бұрын
The injury thing is so true. I have done a bunch of different martial arts before, but it was Brazilian jiu-jitsu where I really learned about what chronic pain was. It's so bizarre to have this ache that doesn't go away after weeks and weeks and weeks, because it keeps getting aggravated in every class. At a certain point, you have to wonder why you even do it. I don't want to get injured in a fight, so I'm going to go three times a week to a class and pay someone to get injured repeatedly? Although I will readily admit that I really enjoyed doing BJJ.
@AzazelTheMisanthrope
@AzazelTheMisanthrope 5 жыл бұрын
6:03 That was actually an extremely well excuted shoryuken.
@aldwincleofe6889
@aldwincleofe6889 4 жыл бұрын
I'm actually frustrated he did not make the sounds
@XxIcebloodTKxX
@XxIcebloodTKxX 4 жыл бұрын
ags
@nickcarroll8565
@nickcarroll8565 3 жыл бұрын
That was beautiful.
@HeartlessKnave
@HeartlessKnave 22 күн бұрын
Mike: You know, I'm something of a street-fighter myself.
@RamonChiNangWong078
@RamonChiNangWong078 5 жыл бұрын
chronic pain in ya lower back and balding that's not BJJ, it's aging
@hard2hurt
@hard2hurt 5 жыл бұрын
Dammit.
@blockmasterscott
@blockmasterscott 5 жыл бұрын
OMG, so true.
@theundead1600
@theundead1600 5 жыл бұрын
Shit. Lmao
@MA-fi1ie
@MA-fi1ie 5 жыл бұрын
If you do BJJ for a certain amount of time, you'll get bald because you roll and rolling on your head is inevitable 👌
@kjuarez29
@kjuarez29 5 жыл бұрын
haha. truth
@thejoojoo9999
@thejoojoo9999 5 жыл бұрын
I agree a lot with the "striker's luck" : striking is a lot more random than grappling.
@hard2hurt
@hard2hurt 5 жыл бұрын
I'm assuming. I dont see a lot of surprises in rolling. I mean I am sure they happen, but you don't see near as any lucky shots.
@thejoojoo9999
@thejoojoo9999 5 жыл бұрын
@@tilted8707 Of course ! I'm more of a striker myself. But I simply think a good striker has more chances of getting a surprise smack in the face from an average joe than a good striker has of getting a surprise takedown from joe
@elenchus
@elenchus 5 жыл бұрын
things just don't happen nearly as fast in grappling, particularly in jiujitsu. If someone gets me in side control, they've got a nearly static situation that the opponent can use to their advantage. In striking, gaining an advantageous position (like a superior angle) lasts maybe 0.5 seconds at the longest. Of course, you can do both, like in Muay Thai with the plum, and create a more durable advantageous position.
@JTH43
@JTH43 5 жыл бұрын
Julien Thévenoz Not to mention the untrained guy in the street doesn’t know how to move properly or “play the game” which ironically sometimes throws off an experienced guy in striking or grappling. White belts are unpredictable and just go as hard as they possibly can which can result in freak injuries etc and occasionally work to their advantage... 99% of the time they get dominated but every now and then they throw you off your game with some off the wall shit.
@hard2hurt
@hard2hurt 5 жыл бұрын
@@elenchus I like the way you put things. Can you start DMing me your ideas so I can steal them?
@mischievousguru8512
@mischievousguru8512 5 жыл бұрын
I am a self-defense student and trainer; no expert nor guru, whatever all that poppycock means. This is the single best video I have ever encountered about the truth in self-defense. You are one of the very few who tells like it is, speaks the truth, and makes it all entertaining. Bravo. KZbin is engorged with clue-less MMA/MA "teachers" who may wind up getting somebody literally killed with the BS they peddle. Real violence in real life in the "streets" is the manifestation and epitome of perilous unpredictability not necessarily made any more survivable by martial arts or other training. The number of subscribers to your channel is criminally insufficient; I am sure in good time that shall be rectified, indeed.
@hard2hurt
@hard2hurt 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words. People usually aren't super into the truth because it's not cool and fun and sexy... and yeah you could train all your life and still fuck up and trip and get stomped by a guy that can't throw a punch.
@black1582
@black1582 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this channel. You’re the most realistic voice about what works and doesn’t work, and what can actually be expected, that I’ve ever heard on KZbin or the web. Martial arts needs more of this.
@MtuckerGoBlue
@MtuckerGoBlue 5 жыл бұрын
I like what you said about long term injuries. I was a collegiate wrestler with some international level experience and I trained in martial arts (striking arts) during off season. When I was young having a powerful grappling foundation with solid striking made me feel confident. Now that I'm nearly 50, having a compressed spine, a right arm I can't fully extend due to joint wear-and-tear, and a left shoulder with shooting pains pretty much makes me feel like just walking away from any situation that might demand physical exertion. You can have the win young man, I'm going home to have a coffee.
@neil4042
@neil4042 5 жыл бұрын
“Let me see you put your socks on” bro, that hurts. That hurts real deep.
@DrMakak
@DrMakak 5 жыл бұрын
As a beginner both in boxing and bjj, I absolutely agree with the progress curves. I also think one of the reasons is how weird grappling (especially ground) is for an untrained person. It's like if you're a grown man you already know some boxing, you can probably throw a shitty punch and not trip on your legs. But if you tell someone totally new to bjj to do a mount escape, they'll probably roll on their stomach.
@IcyMikeP
@IcyMikeP 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah... like untrained you could at least do a bad impression of a boxer because you've seen it enough in movies and TV. Most people look like a plate of spaghetti when they start grappling class.
@user-cz7wp4jz6n
@user-cz7wp4jz6n 4 ай бұрын
@@IcyMikeP spaghetti -jutsu !
@austingode
@austingode 5 жыл бұрын
I was a karate/ tkd practitioner .... I grew up in a foreign country and unfortunately had a lot of street fights ....what they had in common was they started standing and ended on the ground 95% of the time .....so I think striking is the primary weapon but you have to be prepared to go to the ground ....
@austingode
@austingode 5 жыл бұрын
Matthew Van Helden thanks 🙏 Mathew .... my hard training days are over due to injury/age ..... I did a bit of bjj with a guy who weighed 240 pounds , it was an interesting experience while it lasted .... but one day he nearly killed me with the smell from his ass crack !! Personal hygiene is a must in any grappling sport ! These days I do my best to avoid trouble , however the world 🌎 is overpopulated with dick heads now more than ever before ( in my lifetime that is) so best to be ninja.... and pass on trouble
@IcyMikeP
@IcyMikeP 5 жыл бұрын
@@austingode sorry about your ass crack experience... but rubbing your stinky balls, taint and ass on your opponent's head and face is a core concept of bjj.
@austingode
@austingode 5 жыл бұрын
Dirt Diver 😂.......!
@austingode
@austingode 5 жыл бұрын
Icy Mike .....👀.....!! It certainly impressed me with the power of bjj
@diosantana2659
@diosantana2659 5 жыл бұрын
rob dog...all those street fights....and you didn't realize how bad karate and TKD are?
@lone5463
@lone5463 4 жыл бұрын
1:45 So in grappling you basically start oscillating back and forth in time while getting exponentially better.
@ellisberry8747
@ellisberry8747 4 жыл бұрын
This made me laugh way too much man 😂😂😂
@wisecounsel6135
@wisecounsel6135 3 жыл бұрын
It's probably the injuries that cause oscillation lol. I did 1 class on BJJ and quickly saw the potential of long term injuries. A rear naked choke felt like my neck could be dislocated if the guy wanted to, although they were trained to respond to tapping out. Most basic moves could incorporate forcing a head to the ground at an acute angle. The lower back, neck and wrists are easily strained. . Strikes are more short term unless if they are extreme heavy blows. But you can get good quicker in my opinion. Either way like he said you need both combat styles. I will probably see which grappling style works for me. For now il focus on boxing
@Nahjeep
@Nahjeep 2 жыл бұрын
I think it means at a given time you have random power spikes like goku during the fight 😂
@karatekid3233
@karatekid3233 4 жыл бұрын
Most effective: combination of both
@bowensaver2326
@bowensaver2326 4 жыл бұрын
YES! I do muay thai and judo (most do bjj but I like judo since it starts standing and ends on the ground) and I've found in 1 on 1 fights I won by grappling and clinching but last time it was 2 to 1 (I live in a place full of wusses) I had to strike and lost eventually because as mike said i miss timed my footwork and literally threw my jaw into a punch trying to go into the grapple 😂
@bowensaver2326
@bowensaver2326 3 жыл бұрын
@Dave O I've had guys at my muay thai gym talk about how useless judo is... then I told them the precious bjj, jj, and some wrestling comes from judo and they looked perplexed cause they never see as much grappling in judo. Then I explained to them that if you get a perfect judo throw in comp you dont need to pin cause if it weren't for the mats then you'd be out of the fight... they now constantly ask me "grapple him" "grapple this guy" etc and my muay thai coach wont allow it cause he grew up in Brazil and got made fun of for not doing bjj and in his words "don't be gay" every time I ask if I can roll on the mats there 😂
@bowensaver2326
@bowensaver2326 3 жыл бұрын
@Dave O there is a big advantage of training in the thick judo lapels is that your grip strength increases... I remember when we were taught how to hold a lapel it was with our four fingers and the thumb stayed out, but with like the shoulder area the lapel was a lot thicker and I only could get about a finger tips worth of lapel then had to throw who ever like that.... I also for the purpose of "no one wears lapels outside of a dojo" I would get my friends who did wrestling and arent foreign to grappling and I'd practice my go to judo throws without the lapel and actually it's a bit easier to do some cause you have control of their body directly and not a lapel that can come out of the belt 😂
@bowensaver2326
@bowensaver2326 3 жыл бұрын
@Dave O Yes! Or when my wrestling friends go for double legs or single legs I let them do it but in the process I put them in a head crank and when they get me down I shift into the guillotine and they hate it... or when they try to pull away from me with force I go to an armbar/triangle and they're stuck struggling while I could hold on all day 😂 and when I'm not doing judo and it's a ruless squabble if they go to teu and throw me I let them since i can break the fall and now they're truly in my domain on the ground unless they do wrestling or some sort of grappling then it's a lil more even
@bowensaver2326
@bowensaver2326 3 жыл бұрын
@Dave O I know that my understanding of sweeps and balance has greatly helped my muay thai skill in the clinch and even just taking the guys foot out from under him randomly to set up a big power shot
@iamtoast3397
@iamtoast3397 5 жыл бұрын
PSA: If you're watching this with your girlfriend just skip 04:50-5:00, they don't need to know. You're welcome.
@hard2hurt
@hard2hurt 5 жыл бұрын
You dont want em to see my booty?
@iamtoast3397
@iamtoast3397 5 жыл бұрын
@@hard2hurt intimidation is half the fight, right? 😅
@vgman94
@vgman94 5 жыл бұрын
Bwahahaha!
@bullfrogboss8008
@bullfrogboss8008 5 жыл бұрын
Who the hell watches these video with their girlfriend?!
@Docinaplane
@Docinaplane 5 жыл бұрын
No question, striking is easier to learn. That said, for kids, learning westling is a better way to start a martial arts lifetime. I really like that you are addressing injuries in the MA. I've tried to find the middle ground in my life with balancing being a better fighter verses getting more or less injuries.
@hard2hurt
@hard2hurt 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah there is definitely a point of diminishing returns, which is an upcoming video.
@jackwilson6467
@jackwilson6467 5 жыл бұрын
@@hard2hurt I think striking is much harder to get proficient at than grappling. You can take an average Joe and train him a couple of times a week on basic grappling and in six months he's probably able to pull off a takedown and submission on most other average tough guys, or get to guard and survive if he gets knocked down. I've seen guys train striking for years and still not be able to string 3 punches together, and won't move their feet. It is the sweet "Science." That being said, I concur that in a street assault situation it is preferable having good striking, coupled with enough grappling to foil a wild tackle, or get back up if I slip and fall. "No offense." - RH, Funker Tactical
@ZenDragonYoutubeChannel
@ZenDragonYoutubeChannel 5 жыл бұрын
Love the Funker Tactical MC parody, solid channel for self defense content, but you nailed it. :p
@IcyMikeP
@IcyMikeP 5 жыл бұрын
Haha thanks. I wonder how many people will get the references.
@astrol4b
@astrol4b 5 жыл бұрын
I thought it was fight tips.
@hard2hurt
@hard2hurt 5 жыл бұрын
@@astrol4b coming soon...
@astrol4b
@astrol4b 5 жыл бұрын
@@hard2hurt I'm already waiting for the video on the sucker punch, but if you make it doing the impression of fight tips OR like you are in the cobra kai dojo I will reach the nirvana.
@mxu111
@mxu111 5 жыл бұрын
Is that why he was against a graffiti wall?
@nightmonkey2779
@nightmonkey2779 5 жыл бұрын
I agree with your final assessment of a mixture of both grappling and striking. I will add, in a street fight/self defense scenario I would never want to go to the ground. BJJ and "ground fighting" leaves you so vulnerable with multiple people. You'll never find footage of someone taking on multiple opponents with bjj but you can definitely find lots of videos of people taking out multiple opponents with striking.
@thefausty5195
@thefausty5195 3 жыл бұрын
When you are against one guy, it is better to use grappling, especially, if the guy is bigger. But with multiple opponents striking is way better. A better choice would be to use a weapon like a baton, or something like that or just run.
@greggist150
@greggist150 2 жыл бұрын
People who face a larger adrenalized criminal bent on a criminal assault and not looking to go to jail will be in a dangerous deadly surprise relying on grappling only add most criminals come in pairs with weapons l,I agree a good sprawl with Muay Thai modified for street attacks is a very safe choice for smaller person imo
@SirWalterSansRien
@SirWalterSansRien 2 жыл бұрын
@@greggist150 a lot of generic BJJ gyms also train primarily in the "sport" rather than a practical MMA or street fight angle. so lots of being on your back pulling guard and gi chokes, and no striking. grappling is A LOT different when someone can punch you at any time, knee you in the face in certain positions, break your fingers, headbutt you, or just plain slam the back of your head into asphalt/concrete. meanwhile with boxing the main difference is having gloves vs. not having gloves, but otherwise it translates far more directly to a real-life situation.
@andrewminer3308
@andrewminer3308 2 жыл бұрын
@@SirWalterSansRien Boxing without gloves or handwraps doesn't turn out the way most people think it's going to. I have the wonky knuckes and crooked fingers to prove it. Bareknucke is a different animal.
@shanebodnar9861
@shanebodnar9861 Жыл бұрын
@@andrewminer3308 that is true. I do MMA and I can tell u that throwing hands with smaller gloves you can properly grab with and less protection and aganist fucking your hand up is a different game, most boxers are unaware of that
@peterjeffery8254
@peterjeffery8254 4 жыл бұрын
"Just because you do jump kicks does that make you an air fighter?" LMFAS!
@isaiahqjones2991
@isaiahqjones2991 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like jump kicks are overrated unless you're athletic, I prefer the basic kicks
@neo-filthyfrank1347
@neo-filthyfrank1347 4 жыл бұрын
yes
@dr.dylansgame5583
@dr.dylansgame5583 3 жыл бұрын
@@isaiahqjones2991 i agree you cant ground the stike to add power if it doesnt go fully through and it leaves you extremely vulnerable almost as bad as when someone sweeps your foot as you have one foot up to go for a kick
@isaiahqjones2991
@isaiahqjones2991 3 жыл бұрын
@@dr.dylansgame5583 yep I agree
@BFGalbraith74
@BFGalbraith74 5 жыл бұрын
Muay Thai + BJJ Blue Belt = most ergonomic option? Amen.
@BFGalbraith74
@BFGalbraith74 5 жыл бұрын
@Conald Deronne Yeah Judo has very dynamic kata they spend a lot of time drilling in for putting someone on the ground without following them to the ground inspite of what happens in competition, so you have a very interesting idea here.
@BFGalbraith74
@BFGalbraith74 5 жыл бұрын
@Conald Deronne I saw all of the Gracie's UFC 1 submissions covered in a single Judo class one night, it was coincidental, they never talked MMA at that dojo.
@bruno4299
@bruno4299 5 жыл бұрын
@Conald Deronne Judo is pure shit.bjj rules.
@tattoodrdoke
@tattoodrdoke 5 жыл бұрын
@Conald Deronne most people who train BJJ with a hard decent club will know the history of BJJ so will know its Judo origins.
@exodusxp8094
@exodusxp8094 5 жыл бұрын
Conald Deronne maybe greco instead of judo so you don’t rely on the Gi
@yesno1721
@yesno1721 5 жыл бұрын
“The answer is yes” I DIED when you said that 😂👌
@hard2hurt
@hard2hurt 5 жыл бұрын
Screenname checks out.
@Godzillarex
@Godzillarex 5 жыл бұрын
Great video! Excellent observations and tips.
@hard2hurt
@hard2hurt 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot man!
@russman738
@russman738 4 жыл бұрын
I love when BJJ guys use the line "70% of fights end up on the ground". I'm just like, "Yeah, well 99% of fights start NOT on the ground".
@cEruStorm
@cEruStorm 3 жыл бұрын
That’s why you train takedowns
@senoB
@senoB 3 жыл бұрын
unless you're bad in bed.
@aldino1928
@aldino1928 3 жыл бұрын
@@cEruStorm takedown rarely stop someone from harming u bud, if takedown able to stop someone from fighting then whats the point of bjj then
@cEruStorm
@cEruStorm 3 жыл бұрын
@@aldino1928 dude, you train takedowns so you can get the opponent to the ground, not to end the fight right away. I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make here.
@aldino1928
@aldino1928 3 жыл бұрын
@@cEruStorm after ur enemy get to the ground what u gonna do after that? Cuddling right just like u bjj people do everyday, well cuddling is the problem
@popkan21
@popkan21 5 жыл бұрын
This is the best video on self-defense/martial-arts ever made. Hands down. It has graphs. It has humor. It has truth, as unbiased as you can hope for. Thank you!
@IcyMikeP
@IcyMikeP 5 жыл бұрын
Question for Viewers: Do you find grappling or striking to be easier to learn? Which is more fun for you? Oh and can anyone finish the last line?
@thebodykeepsthescore2828
@thebodykeepsthescore2828 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, last bit is easy! Go for a master wong "Nut shot"
@IcyMikeP
@IcyMikeP 5 жыл бұрын
@@thebodykeepsthescore2828 wrong!
@IcyMikeP
@IcyMikeP 5 жыл бұрын
@.zip that's because you're passionate about it... like when a weightlifter misses and instantly starts feeling smaller.
@thebodykeepsthescore2828
@thebodykeepsthescore2828 5 жыл бұрын
@@IcyMikeP Damn! Back to the drawing board.
@robertomantonico7036
@robertomantonico7036 5 жыл бұрын
I would definitely say that striking is easier to learn, but it is more challenging and satisfying to learn grappling
@gxtmfa
@gxtmfa 5 жыл бұрын
Grappling is wonderful because you can spar for a long time and frequently. I honestly think that’s the biggest advantage. Also, he’s completely right about BJJ and injuries. You’ll get a chronic injury. Guaranteed.
@AmbroseBoaBowie
@AmbroseBoaBowie 5 жыл бұрын
O still can't flex my finger in a sertin way, the doctors don't k ow what wrong with it, but the important part is I can make a fist again so that's all that matters
@Liquidcadmus
@Liquidcadmus 5 жыл бұрын
I dunno, you can do striking sparring everyday and not get hurt if you and your training partners have good control. also getting punched and kicked over and over, eventually you really learn to stay calm and control your aggression. both grappling and striking provide the same benefits in those senses.
@Liquidcadmus
@Liquidcadmus 5 жыл бұрын
@James Robert Clark if you let loose doing grappling, you will injure your partners joints or worse. it's also harder to control oneself than to go all out crazy.
@chrissimon3790
@chrissimon3790 5 жыл бұрын
Liquidcadmus yeah, if I get hit with a good punch I get focused and try not to get hit again, rather than get mad. Although if I’m sparring someone good I’m gonna get lit up anyways😂
@austingode
@austingode 5 жыл бұрын
Bill P hahahaaiiii !!!! You definitely have to like close contact with guys and .....in my experience the smell of unwashed body in a grappling situation is as repulsive as it gets
@DMoe357
@DMoe357 5 жыл бұрын
OMG Coach Mike you had me dying laughing when you did the Mohawk Grappling Instructor. I actually hear that guy in my head at BJJ Class when the techniques start getting complicated beyond my 4 month BJJ TRAINING Brain.
@달팽이-o1i
@달팽이-o1i 4 жыл бұрын
I think it was supposed to be knight jiu jitsu lol
@josephcarter7111
@josephcarter7111 5 жыл бұрын
It’s not “go with the flow”. “It’s flow with the go” Rickson Gracie
@Nenad-ICXC-Shuput-GFAMMA
@Nenad-ICXC-Shuput-GFAMMA 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome
@Rabbit.760
@Rabbit.760 3 жыл бұрын
What does that mean
@josephcarter7111
@josephcarter7111 3 жыл бұрын
Every fight is different and takes on a life of its own, you should try and be prepared for anything….
@bretbass5596
@bretbass5596 Жыл бұрын
Your not wrong. At 31 I wrestled for several years and have practiced BJJ for several years. I thought my knees and hips were permanently destroyed. I have taken a break for a couple months and focused on mobility and doing heavy bag/shadow boxing workouts. I feel great! I plan to go back to BJJ (because I love it) but probably only 1-2 times a week.
@FinneyRaju
@FinneyRaju 5 жыл бұрын
I love BJJ but disappointed I was sold into it under the premise of it being safer to spar/train in than boxing or Muay Thai. Every roll is dangerous to some degree.
@hard2hurt
@hard2hurt 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's a thing that gets skipped over. Everyone's worried about broken noses and concussions but herniated discs are way scarier to me.
@elenchus
@elenchus 5 жыл бұрын
You probably roll for what, 33% of every class? And you might go between 66% and 95% depending on your opponent. Imagine if you were going that hard 33% of every Muay Thai class sparring for years. And, crucially, you can have a multi-decade long competitive life in BJJ with almost no risk of brain injury, which, to me, is the scariest injury out there.
@hard2hurt
@hard2hurt 5 жыл бұрын
@@elenchus fair points. You don't have to compete in either though. It can be valuable even if you only care about self defense, but then it is more a box that needs checking every once in awhile. My biggest point on injuries is that you MAY experience a severe injury in striking for sure especially as you get to hard sparring or competition... but you WILL develop a chronic injury training grappling.
@somasbodeljas1424
@somasbodeljas1424 5 жыл бұрын
I have done some bjj and mma, imo, bjj is much safer, given that you tap early on limb locks
@FinneyRaju
@FinneyRaju 5 жыл бұрын
Don’t get me wrong, rolling in BJJ is probably safer than sparring every day in boxing. But that’s why you don’t spar full contact in boxing every day. In comparing the two arts you should compare how they actually train, not how they *would* train if they were run like a BJJ gym. What’s also annoying is the pseudoscientific claims by people who aren’t medically trained. I watched a Gracie guy claim that blood chokes are safe because the person eventually wakes up, and I have to think there’s more to it than that.
@elenchus
@elenchus 5 жыл бұрын
I really liked the discussion of competency curves and find them to be generally accurate. I would add that an addition factor to why BJJ is so dominant with relatively little training is because people instinctively have a defense (a poor one) against striking but almost no instinctual defense against submission fighting. If someone just tries to punch you out of the blue, and you know nothing, you can respond with your own lame punches or cover up. You'll suck, but it is a rational response. If someone tries to get you in an RNC or kimura, or they have you in side control, you have no instincts to draw from. You literally know nothing and are at that point basically hopeless.
@hard2hurt
@hard2hurt 5 жыл бұрын
Those are good points and are something we will be touching on in an upcoming video about how poor our fighting instincts are before training.
@elenchus
@elenchus 5 жыл бұрын
​@@hard2hurt I often find that one of the most important lessons beginners get out of any martial art with sparring is how much they suck. I think people have some sort of innate Dunning-Kruger effect such that they are actually well above average in fight competency just in virtue of being their awesome selves. A sparring session with a humble blue belt or someone who has boxed for a few years quickly relieves most people of that impression, and they are therefore better able to assess self-defense situations, now knowing that they're terrible and will probably lose.
@hard2hurt
@hard2hurt 5 жыл бұрын
@@elenchus fightin and fuckin... two things people automatically think they're good at.
@yamiyomizuki
@yamiyomizuki 5 жыл бұрын
@@elenchus having actually done some sparingni can say with certainty that i'm at or slightly above the joe line, i can beat an average joe but there are pleanty of people who can still kick my ass
@justmikec1327
@justmikec1327 5 жыл бұрын
I didn’t hear you mention parkour and track and field for self defense...Great episode by the way!
@BWater-yq3jx
@BWater-yq3jx 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, to be a well-rounded martial artist, you need to master the art of running away! 😄 Train all ranges - grappling, punching, kicking, and disappearing over the horizon! I say this jokingly, but I do wonder sometimes when people say it's better to run away... if they could really outrun their attacker if actually pursued. 🤔
@gregslone4874
@gregslone4874 5 жыл бұрын
I've watched several of this guy's videos and he's 40% knowledge and 60% sarcasm.
@tyy123
@tyy123 10 ай бұрын
Seriously one the most informative videos. I was gonna say for self defence pick wrestling ( cause it has higher intensity) and learn some boxing combinations.
@dariobonk91
@dariobonk91 5 жыл бұрын
That bit about funker tactical was hilarious hahaha
@IcyMikeP
@IcyMikeP 5 жыл бұрын
I really like Ryan Hoover but the impression was too fun not to do it.
@Kilo_of_Milk
@Kilo_of_Milk 5 жыл бұрын
Spot on!
@subjer0
@subjer0 5 жыл бұрын
I actually thought it was Ryan Hoover talking LOL
@johnv5211
@johnv5211 5 жыл бұрын
You don't get to dictate where the fight happens. I'm gonna dictate where the fight happens hahaha
@TheBudoAcademy
@TheBudoAcademy 5 жыл бұрын
4:45 - 5:35 is probably one of the best minutes for beginners to pay attention to especially older folks. Great video great channel. new subscriber !
@zacharycoleman4906
@zacharycoleman4906 4 жыл бұрын
"Alright dude. Without warming up, let me see you put your socks on." This man SAVAGE AND I'M HERE FOR IT!
@LetholdusKaspyr
@LetholdusKaspyr 5 жыл бұрын
This video should be required viewing for everyone in martial arts. Wow. The intro had me rolling, but there's so much crucial info here.
@skylerarroniz4204
@skylerarroniz4204 4 жыл бұрын
5:58. Yo that Ryu upper cut was smooth 😂
@49riddickful
@49riddickful 5 жыл бұрын
Man I am a self-defence instructor and I find myself agreeing mostly with you on your topics, even though the delivery of thought is too simplistic sometimes (in a way that if someona on a beginner level watched it he wouldn'treally get what you're on about) but man are your videos getting more fun to watch. Cheers m8
@hard2hurt
@hard2hurt 5 жыл бұрын
It's hard to go into too much detail. Usually whenever I get bogged down on a point I scrap that bit and save the idea for a video of its own.
@anftrew3775
@anftrew3775 5 жыл бұрын
I think you should credit your students with a bit more intelligence. I think just about everybody, trained or not, knows that real fights (not competitive bouts but actual scraps) entail both strikes and grappling. They may not attach those terms to it. But everybody knows what hitting is, and whatever terminology they are comfortable with, everybody knows that fights will often feature grabbing and wrestling and pushing and shoving and twisting and pulling as well has hitting.
@kingkumite9829
@kingkumite9829 5 жыл бұрын
You seems to be a good fighter but the rotation on your shoryuken needs work
@hard2hurt
@hard2hurt 5 жыл бұрын
I have a sprained ankle man cut me some slack.
@michaelhendricks5449
@michaelhendricks5449 5 жыл бұрын
Have you seen him fight?
@kingkumite9829
@kingkumite9829 5 жыл бұрын
@@michaelhendricks5449 yeah on street fight beefs
@Sean-gl4nf
@Sean-gl4nf 5 жыл бұрын
I literally laughed out loud when he jumped and did a uppercut with a spin. Absolutley hilarious!
@2P2G5C
@2P2G5C 2 ай бұрын
Late to the party, but in my experience, stand up grappling/clinch is the best in a real world situations.
@dsmeira
@dsmeira 3 жыл бұрын
That jiu jitsu instructor bit got me coming back to this video at least twice a week
@meowmeowone8479
@meowmeowone8479 5 жыл бұрын
The Eli was strong in this one! Legit cracked me up with all those transitions and running commentary.
@pyroseed13
@pyroseed13 5 жыл бұрын
From a basic self defense perspective, I think even just learning the beginner fundamentals of jiu jitsu or wrestling is enough for most self-defense situations. As you said, when your fighting someone aggressive and their adrenaline is pumping, a few punches probably won't be enough to stop them in their tracks. You will inevitably end up in a clinch and will want to be able to defend yourself from there. Also, end bit was hilarious. Literally looks like every BJJ instructor ever hahaha
@hard2hurt
@hard2hurt 5 жыл бұрын
I do think that past a certain point it becomes so complicated that we've reached diminishing returns.
@BecozPro
@BecozPro 5 жыл бұрын
I have absolutely no idea how you managed it, but you took 9 minutes of my time, filled it with insightful knowledge, awesome explanations (especially the graph) and managed to make me laugh a lot. You're a goddamn video production genius.
@hard2hurt
@hard2hurt 5 жыл бұрын
I grow stronger with every bit of life I steal from you!
@alexismamadou2193
@alexismamadou2193 5 жыл бұрын
Speaking of the graph, specifically. the blue line. How can someone rest at distinct levels of competitive grapling? Either draw a function or leave the graph out of it.
@DanielOrtiz-dl8eo
@DanielOrtiz-dl8eo 5 жыл бұрын
"Train the one you dont like for 6 -8 months... train the one you like for the rest of your life"... genius....thank you
@CyberwaveOrchestra
@CyberwaveOrchestra 4 жыл бұрын
You need to: 1. Move around in a fighting stance in all directions with hands up 2. At least a solid jab and a cross 3. Elbow strikes, for short distance fight 4. Front kick, more like a stomp kick with full power to the plexus, belly 5. Remember that groin kick is an easy option 6. Takedown and throws variations that wont get YOU slamming the concrete too. Double leg, single leg, hip throw and just a few more, nothing fancy or complicated. 7. Ways to escape from under the full mount position, or any bottom position. 8. Basic locks like kimura and americana guilotine choke, rear naked choke. 9. Ways to get up from the floor more safely (krav maga has these for example, you dont want to get full blown kick to the face because you're doing it wrong) 10. Dont be aggressive before you need to be because you're losing the surprise effect. Dont let anyone into your personal space, from where you could get hit. 11. When its time to be aggressive, dont just be aggressive but be an animal. Self defense situations are very short, you need to overwhelm your attacker with rough motoric moves mentioned above, not with some detailed planned shit coz that provably wont work. 12. Experience some sparring, see what its like to get punched in the face, thrown to the ground. After a few sparring sessions with different people, you will realize that you are not as tough as you thought you were and that is great if you want to advance. 13. Control your ego before anything even happens
@CyberwaveOrchestra
@CyberwaveOrchestra 4 жыл бұрын
And sprawl, learn that shit too. Solid back kick (donkey kick) can surprise and demolish a person attacking from the back if there are multiple attackers. Strongest muscles in the body are supporting that kick
@bullfrogboss8008
@bullfrogboss8008 5 жыл бұрын
When it comes to grappling I feel like it's very important to learn some sweeps/escapes. Sometimes in a street fight situation you might end up with a guy sitting on your chest. If you don't know how to escape from this position, you're fucked. The same with side control. Even if you catch him with your closed guard, laying down with your back on the ground for longer time is not a smart idea for obvious reasons. That's why I think learning some basic sweeps is also important
@overdriver2912
@overdriver2912 5 жыл бұрын
You should never limit yourself by only learning one aspect of combat .
@feeharn5531
@feeharn5531 5 жыл бұрын
Not everyone has time to
@phicks7963
@phicks7963 5 жыл бұрын
@@feeharn5531 yes they do...everyone on Earth has between 80-100 years worth of time to learn how to protect themselves
@somethingelse6273
@somethingelse6273 5 жыл бұрын
6:00 that Sarcastic Spinning uppercut was *10/10*
@theItalianshamrock
@theItalianshamrock 5 жыл бұрын
4:00 when you and your friend pick the same character in a video game
@aenigmatica8
@aenigmatica8 5 жыл бұрын
What a clear, creative way of showing learning curves.
@aabe4327
@aabe4327 5 жыл бұрын
"Train the one you realy like for the rest of your life" yea. good short answer right there :)
@hard2hurt
@hard2hurt 5 жыл бұрын
Martial arts!
@I_Might_B_Wrong
@I_Might_B_Wrong 3 жыл бұрын
You can avoid the grappling injuries but it’s a time investment. Strength and flexibility training and lots of prehab work is the answer but it’s easy to slack and not do what you need to do to minimize the chance of injury. My biggest nagging injury has actually been Achilles tendinitis from being on my toes so much in Muay Thai.
@joshparrott8841
@joshparrott8841 5 жыл бұрын
"everyone is fighting somewhere" Truth for the ages
@anthonygerber8261
@anthonygerber8261 5 жыл бұрын
You're a legit martial artist sir but I seriously love you're comedy and impressions.
@175epi
@175epi 4 жыл бұрын
After hearing about all the injuries you can get from training to defend yourself in a fight you don't want to have (and probably never will), I'm going to work on learning how to run faster.
@joshuafalcon2466
@joshuafalcon2466 5 жыл бұрын
Look I'm from the Bronx where I'm from most definitely I seen with my own eyes,ALL STYLES HAVE A WEAKNESS where I'm from you get jumped on the floor you will get stomped out stabbed up and over hear you get shot and the end of the day I've trained in mma jujitsu kickboxing ECT. I hate when people talk about this works that works litsen if you don't teach students to try and get out of this situation you set your students up for the Big L and most likely there life it about your environment and what's going on around you
@diosantana2659
@diosantana2659 5 жыл бұрын
I trained BJJ my first few years in a bronx attic. We accepted all challengers. Great place to come up
@nelotharen8599
@nelotharen8599 5 жыл бұрын
I've seen amature rugby defeat pro mma in the street.
@ubcroel4022
@ubcroel4022 5 жыл бұрын
Striking (muay thai or kickboxing) with no-gi bjj as a secondary so you know how to reverse positions
@hard2hurt
@hard2hurt 5 жыл бұрын
Good mix.
@Jason22Douce
@Jason22Douce 5 жыл бұрын
Anyone worth their salt is gonna know the best style is no style. take bits and pieces from all martial arts and become well rounded for any potential situation. Would like to think ppl would have learned that from bruce lee's theory's in the late 60s but nahh, lets just talk about his either superhuman spd and or fighting skill ( that isnt provable ) instead of his clear genius to break the mold of '1 style is the only way' bs that still to this day plagues the industry. Good stuff as always :)
@hard2hurt
@hard2hurt 5 жыл бұрын
I'm basically the same thing as Bruce Lee.
@brianhegarty2902
@brianhegarty2902 5 жыл бұрын
I'm waiting to see how many people don't recognise irony...
@shogoracing4294
@shogoracing4294 5 жыл бұрын
hard2hurt LOL
@stuartschultz8823
@stuartschultz8823 5 жыл бұрын
Or just practice one that has striking and grappling combined into one. We strike on the ground grapple while standing up.
@xristosrizos8406
@xristosrizos8406 5 жыл бұрын
Striking vs grappling is a modern invention. No real martial art when martial arts were taught for war utilized only strikes or only grappling. Bruce lee didn't really day nothing new. Commercial martial arts altered the perception during modern times
@celtdawg01
@celtdawg01 2 жыл бұрын
Your Ryan Hoover impression is hilariously on point!
@mikeydo9567
@mikeydo9567 5 жыл бұрын
I'm re-watching this (as I have no life) but you highlight something very important. Eli has really pretty hair! Love your channel I prefer striking (it's fun, fun way to stay in shape, hitting things is great stress management)!
@hard2hurt
@hard2hurt 5 жыл бұрын
He is a very suave guy.
@zedek_
@zedek_ 5 жыл бұрын
They do teach wrestling for adults in my area (somewhat in my area anyway...): Catch Wrestling! Check it out, there might actually be a place near you. For those that don't know, it's older than BJJ, and is a wrestling system with submissions fully integrated into it. I've had a great time with it!
@IcyMikeP
@IcyMikeP 5 жыл бұрын
I've wanted to check it out but theres some woo woo and quality control issues in it, right?
@zedek_
@zedek_ 5 жыл бұрын
@@IcyMikeP In a way, yes, because Catch doesn't have a single, unifying governing body, like the IBJJF or IJF (though we are working on that; seems like some drama, but I just train man). That said, you won't have that issue if you go to a *Snakepit USA* affiliated gym. I can't speak for anyone else, but there is no woo woo there, and the coaches are extremely qualified. It was co-founded by Billy Robinson; you can't get more legit than that. I just went to a 2-day seminar with Head Coach Joel Bane. He trained Catch under Billy Robinson, is a Judo and BJJ black belt, was captain of the Air Force wrestling team. Lots of throws, strangles, leglocks. What a fantastic vacation!
@theodorewurz8424
@theodorewurz8424 5 жыл бұрын
This makes me happy. Catch Wrestling is the fundamental grappling style in our MMA gym.
@theodorewurz8424
@theodorewurz8424 5 жыл бұрын
And while I love Catch Wrestling, there are some major issues with it. The main being that most people come from a Bjj background and want to learn the Catch Wrestling holds without really learning how to wrestle first. This is okay if you are just adding Catch holds to Bjj, I have no problem with that, but too many pass that off as "Catch". The fundamentals of Catch are the fundamentals of Folkstyle (basically). So in our gym the very first thing we teach is pinning.
@zedek_
@zedek_ 5 жыл бұрын
@@theodorewurz8424 It's a good foundational style! I believe Catch is the best grappling art for MMA. Most of the champs in the UFC are strong freestyle wrestlers who just trained BJJ for the submissions. Like DC who is just a blue belt in BJJ. All these guys use wrestling movements and techniques, both while standing and on the ground. If ground and pound isn't enough, _then_ they use an isolated submission they got from BJJ. But watch them, aside from a specific submission, they are just purely using wrestling! This observation, in conjunction with Keenan Cornelius' recent interview, convinced me that I should just go Catch: kzbin.info/www/bejne/n2q9pX9qfsarjbM Look at that. In no-gi grappling, the metagame has shifted to where guard play has been removed by leglocks, and dominant top control. " *The goal is be on top* ... if you're on top avoid leglock." Baby, nobody's better at obtaining, and maintaining, top position than a wrestler, and we were training leglocks the very first day! /endsploosh
@bubbaold155
@bubbaold155 3 жыл бұрын
My personal opinion is that it also depends partly on your build/shape. I tried Muay Thai and absolutely loved it, but learned after a little while that my body is just built for grappling. Being raised in wrestling really morphed me into a thick-thighed, wide-necked ogre lol. And I believe tailoring your training to match your build will expedite your proficiency past that "Joe" line much more quickly
@allhailtheCODgod
@allhailtheCODgod Жыл бұрын
im on the opposite end of the spectrum! i have super long legs and did karate as a child, so for me muay thai / kick boxing is a good fit! and these long ass legs make it easier for people to grab a single/double, BUT make it harder to trip and sweep. i find it super interesting comparing body type with fight style!
@Dwilson1282
@Dwilson1282 5 жыл бұрын
I loved that chart I agree completely.
@hard2hurt
@hard2hurt 5 жыл бұрын
#bigtruefacts
@isaacduncan4182
@isaacduncan4182 5 жыл бұрын
Bruh, after so many years of grappling you spoke to my soul about those injuries. You will be in pain as a grappler as the years build up.
@oscarmaganajr79
@oscarmaganajr79 3 жыл бұрын
So true about what you said when it comes to learning both grappling & striking. Another part of the equation to think about is the person in question. Not everyone learns the same way, there are no cookie cutter individuals. As an educator that has worked with k to 12th grade age groups, and for the last 8 years directly with Special needs children. All people learn differently, and the same goes with what you pointed out for us viewers in this video. Thank you for taking the time and sharing your wisdom on this topic with us. "Adapt what is useful, reject what is useless, and add what is specifically your own" -Bruce Lee
@BWater-yq3jx
@BWater-yq3jx 5 жыл бұрын
4:37 Really good point about injuries. If you're training for self-defence, but end up with life-affecting injuries... Well that's irony, right there. If I have a choice between being punched in the face ocassionally or a debilitating and painful ongoing back/neck issue... Don't even have to think about it! 🤜💥
@DJHamburgla
@DJHamburgla 5 жыл бұрын
Those Ryan Hoover and Eli Knight impersonations tho lol!
@IcyMikeP
@IcyMikeP 5 жыл бұрын
Eli's is sooo tough.
@tempusfugit7560
@tempusfugit7560 5 жыл бұрын
Striking. Street fights have no rules and usually don't start hands up in guard. You don't get to choose the moment, the place and the opponent(s). Striking seems more natural and clinical. Now all the grapplers might disagree. Look up for videos in which wrestlers start fighting during matches. They go for the punches. There's no round and the ground will break your skull in the street. In mma guys fall on their heads even if they're doing a single leg takedown. On the pavement it's a different story. Striking any day.
@bombastikderteutone6858
@bombastikderteutone6858 5 жыл бұрын
look up for Videos in which Boxers start Fighting during Matches. they go for the Wrestling. theres no ring and the Ground will break your (opponents?) skull in the street. in mma guys fall on their heads even if theyre doing a single leg takedown. (and for defending single legs or tossed on your head..you Train.. oh Right. Boxing of Course) In Real life its a diffrent Story. Wrestling any day.
@tempusfugit7560
@tempusfugit7560 5 жыл бұрын
@@bombastikderteutone6858 of all the fighting sports I've practiced, bjj and judo were my favorite. I haven't much outside but in the rare occasions, it ended up with fists and it didn't last long, won or lost. I did a judo throw once, the guy was bigger and it worked. I'm not underestimating grappling at all. The question was about making a choice. You could argue that a wrestler could still punch. At my age, middle age, if go with hard punches to the chin.
@bombastikderteutone6858
@bombastikderteutone6858 5 жыл бұрын
@@tempusfugit7560 yeah man no offense! I am even agreeing to your Point for making a choice that striking has ist clear Advantages in this type of situations. I think in some cases even grapplers underestimate the value of their grappling Training though.the stories beginning like "once i was in a fight and only used Boxing- never used my Judo/Wrestling in a fight". this may Neglect that Judo guys hve e.g. a great sense of balance and want fall that easy for sloppy takedown attempts or tackles (in my experience). takedown defense is also grappling - and i think it has to be trained aswell with intensity
@ghiblinerd6196
@ghiblinerd6196 3 жыл бұрын
4:38 as a physical therapist who tried bjj for 5 months before saying “fuck this!” I can say that I agree 100%
@jordangonzales2618
@jordangonzales2618 5 жыл бұрын
Holy shit I didn’t think a video about self defense could have this much production value
@BlazeShogun
@BlazeShogun 5 жыл бұрын
Oh man!! The Ryan Hoover bit had me dying laughing!!! Great stuff, Sir!
@hambone6158
@hambone6158 3 жыл бұрын
what part of the video did he do a Ryan Hoover bit? I missed that.
@Marios_93
@Marios_93 5 жыл бұрын
The uppercut through the air was hilarious 😂
@abdmoe6972
@abdmoe6972 5 жыл бұрын
I have done striking for 6 years now and have gotten into 5 BIG fights (I am a high school student, what do you expect). From my experience, when you get good at striking by analysing all possible positions and trying to make the most out of them, it gets hard for you to get punched. I got taken down twice (once because I wanted to try it out) and got back up instantly (I found my self doing an uchi mata on on acccident, and only knew what I did after watching a frw youtube videos on grappling). So I wouldn't agree with the lucky striker theory. Another thing I want to discuss (in civil manner please!) is the faster progression of grapplers. I personally found that true on THE AVERAGE PERSON. If someone trains in a different manner, they will always find high development. When I train, if I notice my progression slowing down, I try to change my style or add something incredibly tough. For example, I have gotten quite confident in my knockout power (I am a big fan of George Foreman), but I have found problems in doing the same with my kicks in an untelegraphed manner. So I watched Van Damme and many Tae Kwon Do practioners on KZbin and noticed a lot of my mistakes. Thanks for all the good work, and please correct me if possible.
@hard2hurt
@hard2hurt 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah this is in general... for the average guy and it's highly subjective and varies based on the person. As for puncher's chance... that's not something I made up. It's a very real thing and is pretty easily observable.
@abdmoe6972
@abdmoe6972 5 жыл бұрын
@@hard2hurt Thanks for the response. However, what about Lerdsilla, Muhammad Ali, Mike Tyson, and Israel Adesanya? They weren't caught easily because they were vision based fighters. With correct head movement and Cus D Amato's 'illusive aggression', one can easily prevent serious damage or any damage to the head against the average person. But there is something I don't like about a lot of fighters. It is that they fight like they are in a match. Vasyl Lomachenko's style is good for the ring, but not much against someone who can brace a few hits for a few seconds to a land a really big one in the street (George Foreman or Joe Frazier). I hope I don't get any hate about what I last said.
@hard2hurt
@hard2hurt 5 жыл бұрын
@@abdmoe6972 Haha what about them? This is how Kyle the Real Estate Agent can get started in martial arts to protect himself reliably. The experiences of phenomenal athletes with superhuman abilities is hardly relevant. No you dont have a puncher's chance against Ali... but your neighbor has one on you.
@anftrew3775
@anftrew3775 5 жыл бұрын
@@abdmoe6972 you seem to be confusing self defence and competition duelling. When two people train to a given standard, weigh similar weight, agree to abide by the same rules, face each other at an agreed time, knowing what is going to happen and when, that is not self defence. Its not even really a fight because theoretically either player can choose to forfeit at any time, and won't then get repeatedly stamped on. Self defence on the other hand is very, very different. Different size and skill levels, different numbers of assailant, different place, no rules, and unless you're dumb enough to actually choose to fight, the assailant knows before you do that it's even going to be a fight, and so already has the advantage.
@huston345
@huston345 5 жыл бұрын
Reyes R Tellez lies
@memorris2
@memorris2 5 жыл бұрын
Dude....so glad i found your videos! You crack me up, and have great info. Been watching random self defense videos for years, and yours are the first that made me hit subscribe.
@cruz0861
@cruz0861 3 жыл бұрын
Broooo! Wtf!? How is this channel not blowing up like it should !
@DG9-q6f
@DG9-q6f 5 жыл бұрын
Real talk, I am sure af my choice of grappling over striking helped me in the streets. (Once I got catapulted from my bike and made a perfect roll probably helped by the backpack, not a scratch. Yes, that was the only time I found myself falling hard due to own stupidity, but still, take that, strikers!)
@hard2hurt
@hard2hurt 5 жыл бұрын
Breakfalling ftw!
@MonkeyFist
@MonkeyFist 5 жыл бұрын
Ground fighter, air fighter and water fighter... Sounds like charactets form AVATAR cartoon : p you just forgot about the fire fighter so you could have all 4 elements : D Good video : )
@IcyMikeP
@IcyMikeP 5 жыл бұрын
Damn I missed a joke there!
@REDIIIPS
@REDIIIPS 5 жыл бұрын
Fire fighters are the best! Once they get to a fire hydrant it's game over 😉
@shogoracing4294
@shogoracing4294 5 жыл бұрын
JC MMA LMAO!
@Jgheiler
@Jgheiler 3 жыл бұрын
Hello, I have a question: which grappling art is the safest (from a chronic injury point of view) if practiced non competitively? Judo, wrestling? Etc. I did BJJ for a few months and, as you mentioned, the constant hunching did hurt. Judo felt softer and more natural on the body, but with the potencial for serious injuries. Wrestling maybe? I'm looking for a grapling art to stay in shape.
@ferasboulala6220
@ferasboulala6220 2 жыл бұрын
BJJ is still the safest. Refuse to practice takedowns. Pick your rolling partners (aka avoid spazzing white belts and larger people). Flow roll. Tap early and often. Do foundation back training (look it up). Stretch. And if you feel anything is off, take a few days off.
@botondhetyey159
@botondhetyey159 2 жыл бұрын
I'd still say BJJ. Takedowns are the most dangerous from this perspective, and BJJ does the least ammount. Don't compete, at least not at a high level for cash prize, don't roll with spazzy dudes, flow roll, etc. I've only had one BJJ injury worth mentioning, a hurt ankle, that I took off a month for, and it healed. Other then that, an occassional nosebleed, and some bruises were the worst. But you do need to pick your training partners, and tap early. Most injuries in training are due to ego, even if some are unavoidable bad luck.
@jibreelgroup
@jibreelgroup 5 жыл бұрын
I didn't like this guy at first. Now I fukn love his video. Funny but fukn real down to earth. And 100% correct.
@MaxLohMusic
@MaxLohMusic 3 жыл бұрын
6:01 had flashbacks to oldschool street fighter arcade games. 10/10.
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