The Truth About Overlanding Gear - Budget vs Premium

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Ozark Overland Adventures

Ozark Overland Adventures

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@peterholub7662
@peterholub7662 2 жыл бұрын
my policy is generally to buy the budget option initially and use it until it breaks. That way I figure out what features I want/need or even if it's a piece of gear I'll even use.
@jordankier7698
@jordankier7698 2 жыл бұрын
i do this with tools being a mechanic and ive been incredibly surprised with some of the china quality tools ive found!!!
@Jabber-ig3iw
@Jabber-ig3iw 2 жыл бұрын
A cheap do dad is better than no do dad when you need that particular do dad. I always factor in how often I will use something before deciding whether to go cheap, mid range or expensive. Also how much of an effect it can have on my life expectancy. Never cheap out on Brakes, Tyres, or something that can poison you, like a diesel heater. If a cheap do dad does the job of an expensive do dad, how many of the cheap ones can I buy before spending near to what the expensive one costs.
@peterholub7662
@peterholub7662 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jabber-ig3iw Exactly! totally agree with effect on life expectancy factor. if its cheap and it fails the 1 time you use it and that one time is to save your butt its not worth it.
@fstertercelthnu
@fstertercelthnu 2 жыл бұрын
100% I have a few lists. Bought a dual burner Coleman for $35 on clearance from a hardware store. I know what I like and what I don't so when it breaks, I know what features to look for. I do this for everything, whenever I think "Man, I wish ITEM had this feature"
@OTPpride
@OTPpride 2 жыл бұрын
They say the poor man buys twice
@zootruck
@zootruck 2 жыл бұрын
I wish more people would share this mentality and just encourage everybody to live their best life whatever that may be without looking down upon each other.
@rogue109
@rogue109 2 жыл бұрын
I don't understand why anyone needs to share this mentality. Have you ever been on the trail with folks overnight? Gear matters nothing. It's all about the adventure, the people you get to meet and share the adventure with. I've never seen anyone who's told me I had the wrong gear....ever. If you lack something, everyone there is willing to pitch in and help.
@squirrelcovers6340
@squirrelcovers6340 Жыл бұрын
Zootruck, you need a different crew if that's how they act.
@master6676
@master6676 Жыл бұрын
Never met them on the trail. But I agree some keyboard hero's cn discourage newb's from trying the first time.
@redrubi3942
@redrubi3942 2 жыл бұрын
Matt, one of your best videos. No biased product endorsements, just plain experience driven information.
@kodepop
@kodepop Жыл бұрын
As a backpacker/ thru-hiker, I fall more on the minimal side. I always wondered what was in peoples overland rigs because my gear takes up the space of a backpack. I guess my point is you don't need a bunch of stuff to go camping. Also, my tent takes less than a minute to set up, so not all tents take as long as the one he showed. Just go camping and leave no trace.
@rocar8243
@rocar8243 Жыл бұрын
As a jeep owner 60% of the space is wasted for spares :DDD
@Whitehaar
@Whitehaar Жыл бұрын
100% in the same boat, If I can spend 5 nights backcountry with only my pack why do I need to fill my vehicle with all this extraneous gear. Overlanding has become taking your home outdoors.
@humanoid144
@humanoid144 10 ай бұрын
Just do what makes you happy! Live and let live.
@BrandonWatkins614
@BrandonWatkins614 6 ай бұрын
Definitely don't need much for camping. However if you are planning to overland to some of the most remote locations in the country in a vehicle, there is definitely a lot of stuff you need. Tools, and spare parts will take up a lot of space so you can fix your rig while in the middle of nowhere if disaster strikes.
@JE-jk6qt
@JE-jk6qt 6 ай бұрын
Unless you overland with the family and don’t want to buy hotels. You kinda need some stuff to keep the fam happy and run it smooth.
@markspinner7220
@markspinner7220 2 жыл бұрын
Well said Matt. I have my nice $350 Gazelle tent I can set up and take down quickly while my $25 dollar single butane stove is on the table working just fine. I get what works for me best while managing budget.👍👍
@klimraamkosie
@klimraamkosie Жыл бұрын
@YJ Overlander Losing that knife hurts. Believe me. I now carry mostly under $30 knives.
@kasamoya2020
@kasamoya2020 2 жыл бұрын
We used to floor tent camp but we had a bad experience where a bunch of coyotes started to poke their noses into the tent side walls. After that we did invest in a roof top tent. It’s worth it to us because we like to just take off sometimes and everything is in our tent already. It’s a quick set up and it’s not as easy for animals to reach us. I agree that it doesn’t matter what you have. It’s whatever works for you. You don’t have to spend a ton of money. It’s whatever you feel comfortable with and suits your lifestyle. We love this channel.
@west-Co_exploration
@west-Co_exploration 2 жыл бұрын
FYI... The eureka ignite camp stove is very similar to the jet Boil in adjustability. It takes two full turns of the knob to go from low to high. It is extremely easy to set a temperature for quick boil or keeping something warm without burning it. And the great news is it retails for $129 and is often on sale for less than 100. It's a very good stove
@wirebrush
@wirebrush 2 жыл бұрын
I believe there is an "overland tax" to one degree or another. A good example is storage boxes or totes. It's remarkable how much better contractor tool totes are than those marketed toward campers especially considering the prices.
@spencermorrow2899
@spencermorrow2899 7 ай бұрын
No such thing as an overland tax it’s complete bs
@PhilDoesItAll
@PhilDoesItAll 2 ай бұрын
@@wirebrush if you’re not in the southern states you may have to get them online, but Academy has camping totes that are AWESOME. They aren’t pelican quality but if pelican cases are a 10 and the junk cases that break all the time are a 1, the Magellan Outdoor Pro totes are probably an 8. They’re 80-100 bucks depending on size and worth every penny.
@darksideemt
@darksideemt 2 жыл бұрын
I would recommend if someone wants the toughness of the 23zero/roam cases but doesn't want to spend that much for them go with the Milwaukee cases. I have both 23zero and a plano but I feel the Milwaukee are the happy medium between them, plus they stack/lock together. Great job as always Matt and all beginners should watch this to get started.
@jeepdad1954
@jeepdad1954 2 жыл бұрын
The Milwaukee cases have served me well. +1
@PhilDoesItAll
@PhilDoesItAll 2 ай бұрын
The brand that harbor freight carries are good as well and about half the price of any of the other tool brands.
@GlennThomas
@GlennThomas Жыл бұрын
If anyone takes away anything from this video, you said it best. "what matters, is you are getting out and having fun." Great vid.
@jasonemeric9902
@jasonemeric9902 Жыл бұрын
I've seen some videos from you lately where u r completely transparent about how/why u run the gear u do and how u obtain it. Super realistic, down to earth, and humble. It makes watching your channel so easy. No B.S. Thanks again and keep doing what u do!
@OzarkOverlandAdventures
@OzarkOverlandAdventures Жыл бұрын
I appreciate that!
@woodwardsimes1864
@woodwardsimes1864 2 ай бұрын
Great video like the way you communicate! I am lucky to have my 97’ Land Cruiser Only have the two seats in the front so I just crawl in the the back with my pup on a simple mattress. However a couple of years ago I went skiing in Crested Butte and discovered that the “Buddy Heater” doesn’t work at all at the high altitude!!! Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
@OzarkOverlandAdventures
@OzarkOverlandAdventures 2 ай бұрын
Diesel heater is the way to go!!
@madmouse7915
@madmouse7915 Жыл бұрын
Excellent information, but what I truly enjoyed was you driving home the point that you don't have to have the top dollar equipment in order to compete with others out there. Just get out there and have fun and enjoy life. That's the point of it, not school age drama crap. Stay safe and well out there everyone 🤙💜✌️😊
@PhilDoesItAll
@PhilDoesItAll 2 ай бұрын
Those totes seem tough, but there is an absurd amount of wasted space around the outside of them just like a yeti cooler. There is a brand called Magellan that has nice camping totes that are waterproof and have air vents and you can get a 92 L for about 100 bucks. I think they are called the Magellan pro gear case or something like that.
@woodwardsimes1864
@woodwardsimes1864 2 ай бұрын
Ya I totally agree I have a Yeti Cooler it’s just a waste of space! Not any better than more affordable Coleman 😢
@Fotosynthesis858
@Fotosynthesis858 Жыл бұрын
I use my camp stove when I’m traveling to cut down on buying fastfood. I’d rather pull over & heat up some homemade chili or canned soup instead of over pay for McDonald’s lol. I like to “penny pinch” every chance I get 👍🏾
@SLVRGTP
@SLVRGTP 2 жыл бұрын
This is why I love this channel. Always great videos of the equipment you use or have used and why it doesn't matter if it's expensive or not. Many other KZbinrs would just recommend more costly equipment or only their sponsor's brand. Matt's honesty and transparency in all things Overlanding is wonderful to watch. Someone who really cares about their hobby doesn't want you to join only if you can afford certain things, they want you to join so they have more people to make memories with on the adventure.
@OzarkOverlandAdventures
@OzarkOverlandAdventures 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! Thanks so much for that!!!
@davidhaymon1708
@davidhaymon1708 2 жыл бұрын
Yep. Matt and Cara seem like the KZbinrs I’d most like to sit around a campfire with.
@patricktrumbly3128
@patricktrumbly3128 2 жыл бұрын
Matt - thanks for this message. I've seen a couple of the recent FB arguments... it's just sad. Way too many people are worried about what other people think of their setup or think that people want their opinion. You hit it - what matters is getting out and enjoying the outdoors. Thanks for saying it!
@apmathai
@apmathai 2 жыл бұрын
It’s an uphill battle - I appreciate you fighting it for the greater good.
@aa-town1563
@aa-town1563 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a single dad with little kids so my Gazelle tent saves me so much time and hassel. I can get set up in seconds so I can enjoy the rest of camping. It's worth the price for me. I freaking love your videos!!! Keep up the good work!!!
@jasonmartin6908
@jasonmartin6908 2 жыл бұрын
Well said , nobody should care what you use and how much it cost! I run a colmon stove gazelle tent colmon tent for my kids and it all works just fine!
@anadventureoutdoors
@anadventureoutdoors 2 жыл бұрын
I have a Colman double burner cook stove that my buddy gave mine as a hand me down. I've had it for two years. It replaced my single burner. He bought the Jet boil when he gave me his. I love it,,, I'm sure I can speak for almost t everyone when I say you cant beat a good hand me down. lol
@barbshubert9667
@barbshubert9667 Жыл бұрын
Just bought the Gazelle T4 Overland Edition (2min set up time) + Byer of Maine Easy Cot = new level of comfort. Like the rooftop tent, but SUV doesn’t lol Jetboil is amazing product. I’ve been using my stove since 2007. Original stove. Excellent customer service. Great review.
@nelslarson4856
@nelslarson4856 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. As a fellow gear junky I’ve used and abused a huge range of equipment. After several years experimenting with RTT’s & wedge campers I’ve actually come full circle back to preferring a well made ground tent. Also love the Step22 or Kelty organization solutions. Ridgid Pro 22 tool box makes for a rad gear box. The older I get the more I appreciate simplicity, so I’m a less is more kinda guy. As far as a stove I agree with you, it’s all about what fits inside your gear box of choice. Cheers to your attitude about consumers choosing gear that fits their needs. It’s not about the price tag. 🤘
@WilliamEnnis4380
@WilliamEnnis4380 2 жыл бұрын
Great well balanced video. I've never timed how long it takes to setup camp, because that's just part of the adventure for me. And if its raining, after the first minute, you're as wet as you're going to be.
@astrogreenarrow
@astrogreenarrow 2 жыл бұрын
Overland is you and what u wanna take and what your adventure leads you
@njrx7t2
@njrx7t2 2 жыл бұрын
I'm usually a believer on "you get what you paid for" and I am a strong practitioner of buying the best gear you can afford BUT paying for a Pelican rifle case to house tow straps & Shackles when a Plano box will do is where I draw the line.. I guess what I'm trying to say is, I would pay top dollar for an expensive box to store my gold bars and a Sterilite plastic tote will do for my socks. 🙃👍
@alanbeesley525
@alanbeesley525 Жыл бұрын
I have a colman stove I got when I got married 45 years ago and it still works great . We use it every summer when we go camping.
@sonnicman
@sonnicman 2 жыл бұрын
It’s not about the gear. It’s never been that way for me. When my Dad took me camping as a kid, it was more about being in nature and spending time with him than anything else. My kids share the same sentiment.
@squirrelcovers6340
@squirrelcovers6340 Жыл бұрын
Me, too. We ate canned beenee weenies and saltiness crackers. It was perfect!
@BigRedOverlanding
@BigRedOverlanding Жыл бұрын
That’s awesome man. Now that I’m a dad I can’t wait to take my two kids out camping. I didn’t have a dad to do that with and I’m so excited for my kids.
@sonnicman
@sonnicman Жыл бұрын
@@BigRedOverlanding That’s awesome. Kids grow up way to fast. Get out and do things with them. Document as much of it as you can through photos and/or video. Trust me as they and you get older, you’ll appreciate the fact that you took the time to capture those memories.
@Sydneymccormick2931
@Sydneymccormick2931 Жыл бұрын
i live by the motto get what you can afford and if you can buy second hand gear even better my rig has an ARB bumper and roof top tent on it the bumper i got off a donor car i bought for 500 dollars and the tent i also bought used for 500 i dont care what gear anyone else has i care that they share the same passion for overlanding that i do
@aa-town1563
@aa-town1563 2 жыл бұрын
That JetBoil stove is amazing. I had a hard time spending the $ on it but now that I've used it, I agree it is worth it. Hint: buy a separate wind shield that folds up small to go with it (you can get them cheap).
@stacylolley
@stacylolley 2 жыл бұрын
And a spare propane connector. That seems to be the only negatives I hear about them.
@aa-town1563
@aa-town1563 2 жыл бұрын
@@stacylolley Yes, that too! I carry a spare in the bag.
@EdJZatta
@EdJZatta 2 жыл бұрын
Recondition for the wind shield?
@LoveTribeOverland
@LoveTribeOverland Жыл бұрын
I love this! Everyone starts somewhere, and we all wheel within the budget we have to work with... I love the message of support and empowerment, and to act without judgment, because no matter what the budget is, the real object is to enjoy life... and support others enjoying theirs as well!
@rsisente
@rsisente 2 жыл бұрын
The best gear is the gear that gets you enjoying the outdoors
@chrislichtsinn6627
@chrislichtsinn6627 2 ай бұрын
Well said. It's not about who's got the best equipment but who's having the best time
@jordanlee2645
@jordanlee2645 6 ай бұрын
I got my Enlightened Equipment 0° 7'8 bag about 6 years ago, love it. Top notch.
@shadow.overland
@shadow.overland 2 жыл бұрын
Let me be the first to admit I was wrong on my assumptions of how this video was going to go. I expected "we got this free as test gear and it's great. you should go out and spend your hard earned money on it. affiliate links below." I was wrong. Liked the product reviews and the honesty of "we purchased this or my wife won this". Makes all the difference in the world when a KZbinr reviews something they spent money on vs. received for free. Thanks.
@pennmikael
@pennmikael Жыл бұрын
Great point on stoves. I have a MSR dragonfly which packs small and very adjustable flame. It’s my favorite since it fits in my tote. The con is that it takes liquid fuel and priming.
@mrderek800
@mrderek800 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. But, I am curious to know if you have video review any of the Gazelle tents, since I would be interested in watching that. Their tents do look very easy to setup.
@OzarkOverlandAdventures
@OzarkOverlandAdventures 2 жыл бұрын
I've never reviewed a Gazelle tent but friends of mine have used them in our videos. They love them. They are awesome tents. If I were to start using a tent it would be a Gazelle.
@mrderek800
@mrderek800 2 жыл бұрын
@@OzarkOverlandAdventures Would you consider a Shiftpod over a Gazelle tent? Do you know what the pros or cons may be. They both look to be of high quality.
@OzarkOverlandAdventures
@OzarkOverlandAdventures 2 жыл бұрын
@@mrderek800 I've never seen a shiftpod in person but I've heard great things about them.
@RichJohnstun
@RichJohnstun 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video Matt. The main thing is to get out there! I always think about my gear from a "cost per use" perspective. I looked really hard at fridges and then decided that for the 12-14 days a year I'm able to be out in the woods, I couldn't justify it. My $100 Ozark trail cooler is ok for me. I believe in spending good money on a sleep system and things that keep you dry. If I can stay dry and get a good nights sleep then I'm going to have a good time. My Gazelle tent and my Exped mat are my most expensive pieces of gear and I'm glad I spent what I did on them. I'm also still using my $30 Coleman stove that my parents gave me for my 18th birthday....uh, some decades ago :)
@master6676
@master6676 Жыл бұрын
as a teenager and young adult I slept under my P/U tailgate in a surplus goosedown bag with a canvas cover, campfire with cast iron skillet and a coleman cooler with a block of ice or a milk carton of ice if I thought about going the night before. Little nicer now but it still just cooks food and keeps me warm and dry.
@allenjohnson4938
@allenjohnson4938 Жыл бұрын
I Love the idea of overlanding a lot in and of itself. The Trail Begets The Rig That Begets the Gear and at the Source Who has time to Stop Working For sustenance and bills to go on Day trips...much less Motorcycle or Rigs Capable of Overlanding?? Wealthier people...the Culture that follows each trip is determined by who's in the caravan so if its generally a group of young to Middle aged White Guys Dominating and saturating the Scene...Sometimes With Pickups and Rangers They've had since they were 17 (including ones who just got their 1st vehicle as a handle down defining Generation Wealth that its Hard to Argue with but is Rarely pointed out). Theres An Inherent Tax Because of This initial Hurdle that should you take the plunge with bely the Class and Race divide in Recreational Outdoor Spaces ....case in point..Who do Outdoor Gear makers Market To? white guy in sunglasses....anyway..To your Point It doesn't matter what kind of glasses as long as were out having fun in the sun and in that respect better made gear lends to overpricing and therefore higher entry point for dependable gear much less a highly sought out feature. Are the Sunglasses Prescription and wouldn't that justify a higher price should be the priority. I have 5 108qt Plano Trunks, and Coleman coolers for home and function use but I have 6 Ozark Trail Hi Performance Coolers because the features matter more than the name and Walmart Had a Clearance Sale bringing the Total for All 10 of my coolers combined to $350. I have a Lifetime supply of Coolers for every need but I also have two Alpicool Dual Zone Fridge/Freezer Knockoffs by Euhomy (37qt & 48q) for about $500 meaning I had an extra $100 to spend on Covers instead even 1 BougeRv, Alpicool, Newair Which is Already Half as much as a $1000 Dometic CFX. I have Coleman tents and hammocks and Canopys and Coleman 4 & 6 person Tents that Connect to the Canopies to make tents but I also have Kammock Doublers and Mantis Tent/hammock hybrid that cost me $150- $400 and I plan on getting a Clam quick set escape for $300+ so its all about what you can afford and that is a trap in Americas Capitalist Structure ...which shouldn't deter anyone from trying to get out there anyway. Thanks for the vid
@elpatudo3670
@elpatudo3670 Жыл бұрын
$400 for a down quilt? WTF! Sounds like you're almost an outfitter. I can relate completely! My take: Prices are F'ing OUT OF CONTROL. Why? Retired white boomers. It's amateur hour out there now 24/7/365.
@allenjohnson4938
@allenjohnson4938 Жыл бұрын
A $400 tent/hammock. The quilt was $100
@coachbulldog4917
@coachbulldog4917 2 жыл бұрын
We are weekend warriors, have been for 10 years. We take probably 5-8 trips 3-4 days at a time per year, we wanted to spend $ 40 on a 2 burner stove but thought it was too much and spent $25 on a single burner LOL. It's done amazing for a family of two. Love the video mate!
@micheleobrien64
@micheleobrien64 Жыл бұрын
My bag is a teton from sportsmans warehouse. $80 on sale display model. LOVE IT!
@IndependenceOverland
@IndependenceOverland 2 жыл бұрын
Well said Matt, it all depends on needs. I paid full price for an EE quilt for backpack hunting a few years back, absolutely fantastic. Well worth the money. Been meaning to get their comforter for a while now for the RTT. For tents, those of us who are fortunate to get out a lot also value time saved to clean it. Sure setting up/tearing down in the rain faster is great but a huge perk is when it needs dried from the rain in between trips it’s not a big chore. Ground tents are very inconvenient if there’s bad weather. If they are wet, you better get it out of that wet dark stuff sack within a day or two, set it up yet again or else it will grow mold and need to be tossed. Like you said, this doesn’t matter if your not out often but holy smokes it gets old if you are. But at the end of the day, no one cares. If you show up with a 5$ garage sale stove I won’t even notice. It’s only when people announce they didn’t bring very basic camping gear intentionally that I get annoyed. I’ve had that happen too many times 🤦🏼‍♂️
@ekhouser614
@ekhouser614 Жыл бұрын
Just looking at getting into overlanding and loving your channel. I do find it relatively close to the backpacking community when it comes to gear. We've all started somewhere, and generally start with the budget but heavier option. Then, over time evolving into the higher quality light weight gear. Even though I only get out very infrequent, I'll invest in the higher end, more expensive gear because I get what I pay for and have a better experience with the better gear. Just my opinion though.
@joestout2959
@joestout2959 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate how not snooty this is about spending too much money. refreshing.
@joemontano8251
@joemontano8251 2 жыл бұрын
I recently got a Jeep Wrangler and I’ve been getting into the overland world.. Your videos help me out a lot, thank you so much Matt!
@EthosAtheos
@EthosAtheos 6 ай бұрын
I worked in a restaurant for many years as a cook. We would use butane burners for cooking at events or doing omelette bars. When I started camping out of a car, I tried the usual 2 burner suspects. I have now switched to a sub 50$ butane burner with a propane adapter and it is by far the best camping stove I've ever used. It is small, light, inexpensive and has much better flame control. If you are a cook and you want to cook on the go, use what a restaurant use and get a portable butane burner. If you have unlimited money get an induction cook top they are even better. The heavy husky boxes are awesome and cost between 20 - 50$ and are totally waterproof. You can remove the lids or just open one side and hinge it open. Highly recommend them for a storage solution under an arm and a leg. Down bags are the way to sleeping bag.
@OzarkOverlandAdventures
@OzarkOverlandAdventures 6 ай бұрын
I think the JetBoil would change your mind. lol
@teewuane
@teewuane Жыл бұрын
I had a roof top tent, loved it, but it was more of a pain when I setup a base camp, you had to basically break down camp every time you wanted to leave in the vehicle. This was an awesome video by the way!
@Don-md6wn
@Don-md6wn Жыл бұрын
I don't know why I hadn't thought of that before, but it's just one more reason a rooftop tent is not for me. I am often out to a destination to photograph before sunrise and back after sunset, and having to break down and set up a rooftop tent in the dark isn't something I'd want to do. I don't spend much time at camp when I'm traveling. I am out photographing and hiking. Then there is the weight a rack and rooftop add to your vehicle and what they do to your gas mileage. If your overlanding vehicle is also your everyday driver (as it is for me), 80-90% of the time you're carrying all that weight around when you don't need it, unless you have (or rent) a place to store it when it's not in use and have people to help you get the thing on and off your vehicle. Also, if I had a rooftop tent on it, my 4Runner wouldn't fit in my garage. It barely fits as is, with the stock rooftop rails deleted. Buying a good rooftop rack and tent and having them installed costs several thousand dollars, and as I think it about it more I wouldn't want one even if was free.
@stevenfancher7308
@stevenfancher7308 5 ай бұрын
I have a 07 4Runner. I have installed bed platform in it. Does it take up space yes as well my kitchen. But I still have room to get in and out. I also use Plano boxes. For extra storage I have to them on my roof rack. But I don’t care. What I have fits my budget and my use and I like it. Now my add ons for later is portable a/c and heater and shade.
@Oilbleak5453
@Oilbleak5453 2 жыл бұрын
I tend to take the same approach to camping equipment as I do photography equipment- buy the best equipment you can afford and upgrade as you go. Don’t wait around trying to save up for a top of the line RTT, get what you can afford and go have adventures. You can always sell used gear on Facebook as you upgrade so you can offset the costs of upgrading somewhat.
@SoCalSurfer69
@SoCalSurfer69 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 2006 Jeep commander 5.7 limited and looking to do Alaska hwy next year. Need rack, tent, tire rack, we will be using what we can afford. As long as it works.
@margyg
@margyg Жыл бұрын
I like my two Partner Steel Cook Partner stoves (18" dual burner & 9" single burner) and I like the fact that they give you the option when you order what side you want the hose on. The one I use on a table I want it on one side but the one I use in a vehicle slide I wanted on the other side. They also let you tell them how long you want the hose. I am a fan of the Cook Partner but I agree even the cheapest basic stove will get the job done if that is all you want to spend. I am not going to judge anyone for their gear. It is the getting out that matters most. The differences I see are simmering control, BTUs, builds quality, convivence, and are you buying for a lifetime. I also consider reparability, particularly field repair. I had the jet boil genesis basecamp- it is not a standard connector or burner and they won't even send you a replacement burner without sending the whole unit back to them for evaluation & repair. How do I know this? We were camping & the regulator on the gas connector failed & one burner clogged. Left without a functional stove & no where near to get replacements parts that you can't buy in stores anyway. I have Jet Boils, MSR Whisperlite internationals, Esbit stoves, you name I have it and tried them all. The Cook Partner is the winner for me.
@leighgibson3623
@leighgibson3623 2 жыл бұрын
Good point Matt!! I see a lot of people who say there are is only one way to do camping and that is to have the best of everything. There are a lot of people like myself that don't get out as much as we want to during the year and thus some of the mid range gear does great. I enjoy your product reviews as they save me from buying something I really don't need or show me something I do need to save time. I have a mix of gear and I agree that everything just has to fit the person that is using it. For example, I have a jet boil Mini mo that I dearly love and I pair that with a $40 Coleman stove. I have a nice Marmot ground tent with a really nice Thermarest Mondo King pad and love it. Use what you have and upgrade if you see the need. I believe in supporting women getting out and camping and exploring, don't judge is a great message for everyone. After all I started with a $15 leaky cheap tent and a 70's coleman sleeping bag in college and still loved every minute of it. Support and explore!
@Revelation_Overland
@Revelation_Overland 2 жыл бұрын
Just getting started in overlanding. In fact, I haven’t even taken my first trip yet. Just got my Jeep JK a few weeks ago. I’m in the process of building it out. So far I have 33” tires and a barricade bumper. My focus at first is going to be recovery and survival. Getting a winch, traction boards, straps, rear cargo organization, tools, cooking, water. I purchased Durst X-Mid tent, I have bags, getting pads, then I should be set. Eventually I’ll get a roof rack and rooftop tent, but not my priority at this time. Also want to get a fridge and power station with solar.
@gorila1958
@gorila1958 2 жыл бұрын
Great video with cost vs the quality of what your buying and then getting down to just have fun . Appreciate what you have and really just appreciate the Great outdoors . Really what it's all about.
@vertstang123
@vertstang123 Жыл бұрын
For my two trips a year the basic inexpensive stuff works just fine. I've had most of it for a few decades and everything still works.
@dillonmendonca2804
@dillonmendonca2804 2 жыл бұрын
I have roof top tent and it takes longer not all RTT's set up with same speed. Also something to consider between ground and RTT is if you plan on wheeling or having to go anywhere you will have to take down your RTT in order to do that. A ground tent is setup and you're done and can go play. There are pros and cons to everything. Good video thanks for sharing.
@eugenioguerra5958
@eugenioguerra5958 10 ай бұрын
Your totally right. Everything works for everyone. Some preferences could make a difference based on your own experience. For example I love roof top tent, but mine it’s a soft shell and it takes more time to set it up and take it down, also there it’s a problem if I have to move every day, it takes time.
@gmantw
@gmantw 2 жыл бұрын
Price always matters, but so does the type and amount of use, for the tools of the trade. This same philosophy is used in all walks of life. It just depends on your personal wants, demands, and compromises. Someone like myself who only gets to go out a couple times a year, can get by on cheap end gear, but prefer middle of the road gear, and consider high end gear, a waste of money. If I can't afford it, I do without, no big deal. If I am being judged by my peers, based on what I camp with, I need new peers.
@b16crxt
@b16crxt Жыл бұрын
I recently bought the ozark trail stove and my tank adapter stows flush. It come out of the box flush, but it takes a second to figure out how. The large end has to rest fully in the recess. As for lighting it, I’m carrying multiple ways to light a fire, so that’s no big deal. For the price, it’s amazing.
@halfbloodentertainment
@halfbloodentertainment Жыл бұрын
My thought process with all this is, if you are “young” or aren’t in a rush to get super deep into any hobbies, then buy the cheap and figure out what route you want to take on the journey. If you’re diving headfirst into any hobby then it’s best to buy expensive options for your specific necessities. But always do your own research
@paulsutton2645
@paulsutton2645 11 ай бұрын
As for boxes, I go the the hardware store. I use AEG, but you can use any brand tool storage, and movement boxes. They are dust and rain proof, and can be sat on, as well as stood upon.
@jessemeanlt1
@jessemeanlt1 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. I am a budget overlander/ camper. Some stuff I have real expensive and some cheap stuff.
@Wm.Lidgett
@Wm.Lidgett 6 ай бұрын
the key to starting with the budget gear when your first starting out is, for one is to see even if you enjoy car camping or overlanding.
@onemansthought
@onemansthought Жыл бұрын
On the Plano Sportsman cases, I been using mine (the bit larger, locking ones), for a decade now, I put some self stick weather strip in the lid channel, BAM! no dust or water...... Love this video! Thanks Matt
@crxk20r59
@crxk20r59 7 ай бұрын
I have 2 RTT’s (2 different vehicles) & a Nemo backpacking tent…just sold our Gazelle T4 Plus tent. I enjoy them all, just depends on what we’re doing & where we’re going (and for how long)👍
@florianrausch3607
@florianrausch3607 7 ай бұрын
The by far best deal on storage boxes I found so far (if dust and water aren't too much of an issue) are euro boxes. They stack really well up to about 150kg, are robust, inexpensive at 10€-35€ depending on the size and have standardized measurements from 20x15cm up to 60x80cm (and bigger) footprint, also there are collabsible variants. I'm running a hardtop on my truck and the measurements of the tray fit the meaurements of the euro boxes really well, so organzing all my stuff in those boxes was just the logical thing to do. I'm sure, there is some similiar system in the US or North America, but for the European part of the audience this might be a great idea.
@SOCALOC4x4
@SOCALOC4x4 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with most of what your saying except cost and time setup. I found a topper for $200 that fits my truck fine, then added some goodies. My Setup time is open the rear hatch. Unload some wood and done. So there are many more options that are not 200 times the cost of a tent. Even a one minute tent from colman is maybe 5 min real time. So your are correct shop for what you really need, test it and improve it as needed. Conservative spending is good for the average person while also focused on safety and security on or off road. Love your vids, Gear and tested items. Dan
@SOCALOC4x4
@SOCALOC4x4 2 жыл бұрын
Hi , thanks, you are a very nice guy. Just wanted to say you really inspire me to get out as often as I can. My Channel is not about making anything other than share the ride . I don't ask nor need any subscribers. Mine is for Family and all. I would prefer you give this gift to someone else that can really use it , that can't afford it. That would make me smile if you choose the next guy. Thank you so much for your sharing knowledge. I watch every video you make and test what you use to see if it fits my needs. So Far you have a good record in my book. Thanks again... Dan AKA SearaiderZSocal Please gift it forward to some one that that is short on cash. Dan
@SOCALOC4x4
@SOCALOC4x4 2 жыл бұрын
What would help me is your Dodge Ram Gen 3 guys with more under armor DIY or other. My welder can fab anything I want.
@TheF150flareside
@TheF150flareside Жыл бұрын
Love the no BS but also looking at things from multiple perspectives
@ThePyleDriver
@ThePyleDriver 2 жыл бұрын
Love the video but have an even better option on the tent - no tent. I have a sleeping platform in my JKU that stays setup; time to go to bed, 5 seconds. Time to pack up 0 seconds. The roof top tent keeps you out of the mud and minimizes the time in the rain. Sleeping in a properly setup rig means you never have to go outside - rain, wind, snow, loud neighbors, bugs, all are a non-issue. :) Budget: other than some scrap plywood, it's free. Been living full time in it for the last 5 months and sleeping great!
@bartworkman9049
@bartworkman9049 2 жыл бұрын
I love my EE quilt. 4 years and zero issues.
@LRyan225
@LRyan225 2 жыл бұрын
Greeting from the down under! Great videos. Some experience on our trips with ground tents, we've used it during both avg 3-night camping in the same campsite, and also week-long outback road trips stretching multiple towns and National Parks. We are carrying a ground tent, but it is an air tent, Zempire Evo ts. Ground tents have the advantage of better fuel economies and are quieter on the road. Also, we can simply leave our tent on the campsite we choose, and drive our rig away to explore the areas. We are jealous of RTT sometimes, especially we are tired and the weather isn't as great and the ground is super wet and we are tired after a long drive. But we've managed it, and doable with a fast tent. Seriously, buying a fast-pitch tent, like OZtent, or Gazelle tent, or some air tent like Zempire, is more expensive than a normal tent, but not that compared to an RTT and you won't regret it for sure. A 5-10min setup is not as hard when the multi-day trips involve many different kinds of campsites. In Australia, it means several days in Caravan Parks with booked and labeled campsites, and some days in first come first serve base National Parks campsites. With RTT, is hard to "secure" an FCFS campsite. Plus packing up the RTT in the morning, coming back in the evening, and then setting up the RTT again. Repeating for 2-3night is pretty tedious. After some trips, our final decision is, either choose a good ground tent or save some more money on gears like RTT and Awning and seek an offroad RV. for both camping and multi-day on/off road trips.
@beardawgstudios
@beardawgstudios Жыл бұрын
Could you share the product information on the extended hose and connector your using to connect the propane tank to the camp stove? Thank You!
@4xmatt
@4xmatt 2 жыл бұрын
One thing that could be interesting is seeing performance side by side. Say you're boiling 1L of water using a single burner - how long does it take on each stove in the same pot at high? I will say that one thing I have found with the Ozark/GSI/Coleman style is in windy scenarios - those backer/sidewalls seem nice. One thing not included in the tent comparison is that you likely spent some quantity of time leveling your rig. I've never had to do that, but I can imagine it's a bit difficult vs a trailer with jacks.
@TuanNguyen-ld8kl
@TuanNguyen-ld8kl 2 жыл бұрын
I just picked up the Jetboil for it's compact size. Fits my gear better. From what I've seen they all are about the same. My camp chef is faster but not racing to boil water, ever. So a minute or two faster isn't going to make a difference. But you're right about the wind control though. As for leveling, a lot of us use rv leveling blocks. Not bad at all. With ground tents, you have to find a nice level and somewhat smooth area to set up. Fine for campground but can be difficult for disperse camping.
@4xmatt
@4xmatt 2 жыл бұрын
@@TuanNguyen-ld8kl you're right, it's not a race. I'm just curious of objective ways to measure. But like Matt said, I don't really care what people bring. I just want to wheel. I pretty much exclusively dispersed camp, it's not much effort to find somewhere reasonable for a tent. Granted mine are 1-3man tents so the footprint is rather small.
@dpaslaski
@dpaslaski Жыл бұрын
I have a RTT and one part of the equation is actually getting the tent on and off my Jeep every time I go camping. It’s not so much a task as it is an event. It’s a major hassle getting the tent on top of the jeep if you don’t have someone strong enough to help you. Same with taking it down. It may take 11 minutes to setup a ground tent vs 2 minutes for the RTT, but I also need to add at least an hour on top of the setup/tear down time of the RTT, plus throwing a fit every time it’s time get the tent on the roof.
@OzarkOverlandAdventures
@OzarkOverlandAdventures Жыл бұрын
I don't know many people that take their tents on and off or even understand why anyone would do that.
@dpaslaski
@dpaslaski Жыл бұрын
My jeep is my daily driver, so I don’t keep it on for my commute to work. My jeep is mostly trail rated for the grocery store.
@abelbarrera9178
@abelbarrera9178 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video Matt. I really want a RTT but budget wise I bought a Gazelle tent. Still a ground tent but sets up fast and to put up is fast. Definitely agree with you, shouldn’t matter what anyone thinks. Just go out and enjoy the adventures
@Benson4A52
@Benson4A52 2 жыл бұрын
Thoroughly enjoyed this video. Talked all about gear BUT it's not an ad, or catered to a sponsor. I put a lot of money into my rig but I usually start cheap and only upgrade when that stuff fails or I see it could massively increase my enjoyment on adventures. I advocate that getting out with whatever you have is more important than staying at home saving for the "perfect setup". You said it best though, "no one cares" as long as you're out having fun. Thank you!
@MrScoty67
@MrScoty67 2 жыл бұрын
Great video Matt. I am just starting my overlanding adventures and to follow an old drag racing adage, run what ya brung. I overland in a full size truck because that is what I have. The rest of my gear comes from Walmart or FB market place. I often feel like us bargain bin shoppers are looked down upon. This lets me know that isn't so. Thanks again.
@dmoney8373
@dmoney8373 Жыл бұрын
I’ve got it down to what gear I use most and what I’m hardest on, and that’s the stuff I splurge on.
@WoodrowWoods2007
@WoodrowWoods2007 2 жыл бұрын
RTTs seems cool, but the initial cost, needing to be super picky about where you park/level your rig at camp, then not being able to go anywhere once you’re setup were the biggest disadvantages for me. Love my Gazelle!
@DB-yj3qc
@DB-yj3qc 2 жыл бұрын
Some people like myself don't get hung up on perfectly level. As one that's done from tent, hammock, Tent-Cot, RV / T.T. now I've got a RTT too.
@OzarkOverlandAdventures
@OzarkOverlandAdventures 2 жыл бұрын
I’m never picky about where I park. With rocks or leveling blocks it’s much easier to level a vehicle on uneven ground than find a level spot for a ground tent.
@johnfulater2945
@johnfulater2945 2 жыл бұрын
Matt, You best comment is "what works for you..." Sometime you need to have the cheaper gear fail to determine that you need higher end gear. Backpacker learn this all the time and newer gear comer all the time so you can upgrade if you feel the need. Great Video - thank you of for the info.
@scottbruce9872
@scottbruce9872 2 жыл бұрын
Well said. You get what you paid for. Some of my kit is the higher end and some the lower priced. One thing, like you said is time. Bought a so called quick pitch family tent. Used twice and sold it. Took 2 to set up. Got a clam shell roof top tent.
@mikel6787
@mikel6787 2 жыл бұрын
I'm SO NEW that I'm googling and youtubing everything. But I am learning a lot as I go. I'm in Houston and for now I'm getting a tent to camp in my F150. No 4x4'ing for me. It's a V6 RWD truck. But at least I can get away from the city and enjoy some quiet, restful time alone. I have to start off rather cheap for now. If I like it and do it often. Then perhaps I'll upgrade a few things. I like your vids and taking notes. Thx!!
@anthonyvelasquez9640
@anthonyvelasquez9640 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear you had a good experience with down quilts I've been looking to replace my sleeping bags
@thegiant573
@thegiant573 Жыл бұрын
I don't care about your gear or your vehicle, just nice to see you on the trail. I don't only go out with Range Rover crowd, or the CJ5 guys. All are welcome at my camp. Now if you have a yedi cooler I may ask for some ice. We all know you got ice.
@dkironworks4037
@dkironworks4037 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 30 year old coleman stove that sits in my tornado shelter now. Thing still rocking. I use a gasone stove now. Cheap and dual fuel, well built.
@davidleadford6511
@davidleadford6511 2 жыл бұрын
That very same Plano tote is still bouncing around in the back of my pickup today. It has held up very well.
@mattlewandowski73
@mattlewandowski73 Жыл бұрын
Just rewatching the video... Is there an overland tax??? On a lot of things... Yes. Marketers realized overland if a buzzword these days thus by attaching overland to the name or description they could sell it at a higher price. However, this is not always to say you do not get what you pay for. There is a yellow plastic tax on DeWalt tools, but they have a long standing reputation for quality and standing behind their product, and are often worth the money. If you can afford quality and it will serve you well, it is worth the extra money. It IS NOT a requirement to spend high dollar for equipment... As always though... One of the reasons I love your channel. You are open and honest about products. But so many of your videos, you promote the same ideals I looks for. Keep up the great work.
@christielampert4364
@christielampert4364 2 жыл бұрын
I Really enjoyed this video. I’m seriously considering upgrading to the down blanket from Grandmas quilt. Side note: We (I’m the better half of kentuckyjeeper) watch KZbin videos on our tv. Both of us are subscribed to your channel but don’t always get the chance to “hit that like button” since we’re on the TV version of KZbin as guests. Love your content & it was a big factor in our visit to the Ozarks last year as our 1st stop out of Kentucky on our month long trip west.
@rheannahicks6363
@rheannahicks6363 9 ай бұрын
I got a Coleman Fold n Go 2 burner. Very limited space in my TJ. Similar size but more budget friendly than the jetboil. Love your videos ☺️
@harleymichael281
@harleymichael281 2 жыл бұрын
Matt regarding roof top tents vs. tents, there is another in between option for those whose budget does not allow for a roof top tent or if they use there roof for other storage or do not want the weight on top but do not want to deal with a tent. And that option is a swag, one example would be a one person Kodiak Canvas swag which rolls up with all your bedding just like a roof top tent. Add a camping cot and if ones budget allows add an awning all for around $1k give or take. And another huge benefit of an awning is that provides a shelter when you need to cook and sit out side and it is pouring rain.
@DanFalandys-lt9mw
@DanFalandys-lt9mw Жыл бұрын
I absolutely love how honest you are Matt I am a bit like you with the equipment i use . If it is a critical piece of equipment i spend the$$$ if it absolutely doesn't matter i will buy the cheapest one i can find (within reason)cuz "it doesn't matter!) I love all your videos on gear and you hit the nail on the head every time . And thanks for the heads up on the "Set Power " I plan to put one in the cart soon. Keep up the great work and thank you for taking the time to provide videos that help us make better gear choices.
@OzarkOverlandAdventures
@OzarkOverlandAdventures Жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍
@plus790
@plus790 2 жыл бұрын
Regarding tents. Sure, cost is hugely different, but to me it's about how you're going to use it. I go on 2 week dispersed camping trips where I usually spend 2-4 days in each location (I call it "basecamping"). For me, a good ground tent is an easy choice. The Gazelle sets up as easy as most rooftops, and cumulatively it's MORE efficient because I don't need to set up/tear down every day. I'm free to explore in truck without a top heavy rack, tent, and gear. I have a folding mattress--maybe the best money I've spent as a 50 year-old overlander, so the "comfort of sleeping on the ground" is a complete non-issue. The investment is far less and of course I don't have the weight and drag sitting on my truck the other 340 days a year (or alternatively trying to remount everything for trips). Aside from looking cool, I see limited advantages to a rooftop tent. It makes sense; 1) if you're changing locations every night, 2) space in your SUV is so tight that you can't fit a tent (the Gazelle sets up quickly, but it is bulky), 3) you are paranoid about animals, or 4) the hard shells can offer better protection against the wind and rain (then again, strong winds could pitch your vehicle back and forth all night).
@OzarkOverlandAdventures
@OzarkOverlandAdventures 2 жыл бұрын
Very good points. 1 and 4 are why I have an RTT. I don't base camp often and when I do, we have a trailer for that.
@Wriston88
@Wriston88 Жыл бұрын
Dude I agree with you 100%. Cheap or high end gear…just load up and go. Great video.
@OzarkOverlandAdventures
@OzarkOverlandAdventures Жыл бұрын
Right on
@fritzkabeano1969
@fritzkabeano1969 2 жыл бұрын
Good vid.....and as usual "you get what you pay for". The key was how much you use stuff. Weekend warriors who get out 3-4 times a year don't need the 'good' stuff. But if you're a serious overlander of course buying the more expensive stuff is a must. One thing you showed that everyone should consider buying is that down blanket. That would come in handy in lots of situations and a comfortable sleep is priceless when camping.
@vincentkeith5259
@vincentkeith5259 Жыл бұрын
I've used ground tents, RTT's, cots in the bed of a truck, and the back of a Subaru Outback. The only one I don't recommend is the Subaru - and I'm only 5'8" - 5'9" Everything is a tradeoff - time, money, speed, weight, convenience,... something. EVERYTHING. Find what works for you, and never tell someone else they did it wrong.
@rednecktech00
@rednecktech00 Ай бұрын
Milwaukee PACKOUT 38 in. Rolling Modular Tool Chest is a GREAT choice for storage. It has wheels and handle also.
@petepeterson8420
@petepeterson8420 9 ай бұрын
I'm still using the 3 burner Coleman white fuel stove converted to propane (back in the 70's) bought at a swap meet and it was old then. But I'm using a ZenBivy bag now when I adventure bike, bones too old to sleep cold on the ground. Sometimes shit just lasts and other times premium new stuff is essential.
@guyallphin1295
@guyallphin1295 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. I live on Thornburg Mountain so, not far from you. We are way lucky to have amazing areas to explore and enjoy. I turned my sister on to your site and she absolutely loves you! Thanks again Brother, Rev.
@OzarkOverlandAdventures
@OzarkOverlandAdventures 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome! thank you!!
@ARluvr1
@ARluvr1 Жыл бұрын
I’m considering that jetboil setup. I currently use a Coleman road-trip grill and I like it but it’s big.
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