That the standard narrative has holes, and if we take a deep dive into it, then things become more awkward, and we just saw it today
@theastronomer5800 Жыл бұрын
Finally a highly informative discussion! This is a very fascinating subject. Very few Muslims ever take a "deep dive" into textual criticism.
@adobinobi1 Жыл бұрын
go check Marijn van Putten: Qur'anic Arabic lmfao these guys are amateurs
@David-kz2im Жыл бұрын
@@adobinobi11) Neither claimed to be of the same calibre as Dr. Marijn van Putten. 2) What points did Luis make in this presentation that differs from the fundamental theses found in Dr. Marijn van Putten’s works?
@wagsbass Жыл бұрын
Many that did a deep dive fell through the holes...in the narrative.
@michaela.kelley7823 Жыл бұрын
Because they idolize their religion and they are afraid of what might find. Plus the Quran tells them not to do so because it will corrupt their faith. It basically says the exact opposite of the Bible. It says " don't look into things lest you find out you've been decieved". Personally, that alone would be enough to make me jump ship. But some are staying on this sinking boat. And it's honestly not commendable, all that will be left of islam when it's done is hard hearted, hard headed barbarians that really think God wants them to kill, rape and pillage. There will be another civil war in Islam before its all over.
@uthman2281 Жыл бұрын
@@michaela.kelley7823 You are a liar
@Norbingel Жыл бұрын
Good to see Luis. I thought he did very well in his debate vs Shabir Ali and expected to see much more of him
@1001011011010 Жыл бұрын
He has been on the channel "Reason and Theology" with Michael Lofton as mentioned in the beginning
@The.tribal.chef1 Жыл бұрын
@@adnanibnnoor_1ratio
@jawebeserk2054 Жыл бұрын
these are common discussion in Quranic qiraat syllabus..a good lesson for non muslims too
@ReasonedAnswers Жыл бұрын
Very informative and interesting stream. Thanks for doing this.
@staged00 Жыл бұрын
God bless David Wood and Luis Dizon.
@christopherquinn5899 Жыл бұрын
Stuff like this is far better than the recent collaborations with AP, which are too protracted and wandering. Good work.
@joshuawoodin Жыл бұрын
Let's give a round of applause for this man, David has someone to match his intellect. Also David you are one of the funniest people I have ever seen/heard in my life. Your voices are as accurate as your knowledge of christian theology and a wide array of philosophy ! Thank you for all you do for the will of God !
@DanielApologetics Жыл бұрын
Luis has only ONE book shelf in the background "Ha-ha, YOU SEE! That PROVES there is only one Quran!!
@luisdizon2486 Жыл бұрын
I keep the rest of my books in a box in the basement because I can't fit all of them in my room.
@DanielApologetics Жыл бұрын
@@luisdizon2486🤓👍👊
@thechannelthatwearsflannel2571 Жыл бұрын
@@luisdizon2486 The struggle is real.
@I9s7lam5is-S3tu1pid Жыл бұрын
😂
@Kalypso24 Жыл бұрын
@@luisdizon2486Hi, off topic, but, if it's not much to ask; could you please provide a summary of your major objections against Islam? It would be really interesting to see a Catholic who deeply studies Islam object to it. Thanks!
@alivebythegraceofgod2935 Жыл бұрын
Europe here, hahaha, thanks for coming on earlier.
@Story_Fuel Жыл бұрын
I was raised Muslim but I never believed that the Quran as we have it is the unchanged word of God. The fact that a caliph would burn all other manuscripts and codify is always suspect. The book itself is lauded for its “literary” merits but it’s just a boring repetition which is why it’s so easy to memorise. What we Muslims lost was critical thinking
@frederickpaul8205 Жыл бұрын
I would like to Thank You to David and Luis for this discussion to know about the truths.
@Lilskidmarks14 Жыл бұрын
Praise the Lord Jesus Christ for this discussion! Love you all have a blessed week!
@luisdizon2486 Жыл бұрын
Did I move my cursor around THAT much? I didn't even realize it was leaving a mark on the video.
@Tar-Elenion Жыл бұрын
Nice presentation.
@luisdizon2486 Жыл бұрын
@@Tar-Elenion Thanks!
@Xgy33 Жыл бұрын
Good job! Hope you keep it up!
@David-kz2im Жыл бұрын
I think Dr. Marijn van Putten’s comments on the Qur’anic text being “incomprehensible,” in some areas, were made in the context of the Qur’an not being revealed with diacritical marks. His comments highlight the uncertainty about how the grammar of the text should be understood to be recited (which led to debates among various grammarians) and on if the readings that we have today are exactly as Muhammad would have intended.
@luisdizon2486 Жыл бұрын
@@giodroid27 I will keep that in mind for next time
@dollahmusa6705 Жыл бұрын
If you take a deep dive, standard narratives has many holes in it
@Lerumles Жыл бұрын
The holes get wider
@nonine5304 Жыл бұрын
Great to see Louiz..
@OnTheThirdDay Жыл бұрын
David, you can harmonize the sahih hadith in 1:15:13 and 1:30:10. The solution is that Zayd ibn Thabit was collecting the quran but that Muhammad did not know of it or did not consider his work the best at the time that this saying of Muhammad happened. He did not get the endorsement.
@luisdizon2486 Жыл бұрын
The collection happened after Muhammad already died, so he was no longer around to give his opinion on it.
@OnTheThirdDay Жыл бұрын
@@luisdizon2486 Yes, but the hadith says that it happened but not when or to what scope. It is possible that they collected some things but not exhaustively. Zayd's prior work (and connections) might have been why he was chosen later. In particular, the famous "sheep ate the quran" because they were proccupied with Muhammad's death presupposes that there were written copies of things. There apparently was not a systematic effort to collect the entirety of it and standardize it. Also, the famous story of muhammad's scribe who apostasized because he was changing the way Muhammad revealed it also presupposes that some of it was written as well. There is nothing really extreme about assuming that some people write things down and some people had collections of some of those writings. Regardless, the second hadith does not contradict the first because the second provides only a description not an endorsement of Zayd's collecting, which was my point. Whether these hadith are correct or not is a separate matter.
@OnTheThirdDay Жыл бұрын
@@luisdizon2486 Great presentation by the way. It was very informative.
@luisdizon2486 Жыл бұрын
@@OnTheThirdDay Thanks!
@satuituahadbukantauhid3031 Жыл бұрын
@@luisdizon2486 muhammad already say that they have to listen recitation from 4 people, hafs is not one of them.
@crow06warrior41 Жыл бұрын
I wonder why KZbin gives me a "Islamic" advertisement every time I select an Islam polemical video?
@isaacsauer961 Жыл бұрын
Nice to see someone a little less polemical than David and AP.
@timnic9242 Жыл бұрын
you mean less polemical than ali dawa
@thenun1846 Жыл бұрын
@@timnic9242 "the scientific miracles have been debunked....And we're proud of that!"
@timnic9242 Жыл бұрын
CP should review this video
@artifexdei3671 Жыл бұрын
this is great. beginning of a discussion about fallibility of allah texts.
@midimusicforever Жыл бұрын
So many variants, and still the holes in the standard narrative has been preserved through the ages!
@grumpycrumbles7360 Жыл бұрын
It's a miracle! You see!? This is proof Islam is true!!
@magbear3205 Жыл бұрын
many options? show at least one quran that is read differently than the other. words, text and reading both were and remain original. Only the writing style changes.
@magbear3205 Жыл бұрын
@@grumpycrumbles7360 sarcasm? Muslims apply strict criteria to the Qur'an and Hadith. The Bible fails even one criterion. The people who drew the Bible did not know Jesus. End.
@midimusicforever Жыл бұрын
@@magbear3205 David has already done that.
@magbear3205 Жыл бұрын
where are these 30 qurans and 1000 mistakes?))
@kmensa5301 Жыл бұрын
My first impression reading the Koran was that it appears to be a bad revision of some biblical narratives coupled with incoherent moral codes
@toddbeamer6131 Жыл бұрын
The best historical evidence indicates the quran was a fabrication project by the abassids, purely to unify the arab empire. Much of the text is 'borrowed' from known sources (Christian lectionaries, Gnostic texts, Jewish rabbinical texts, and even popular stories!). Arab scholars estimate about 20-25% is unintelligible (mainly foreign words, as well as incorrect grammar); the so called 'dark passages'. It is disjointed, disorganised and repetitive. Even cult members admit that the sura (chapters) are not in order of 'being revealed), but roughly ordered by length of text. It is embarrassing even before you examine the constant denigration and commands of violence towards others.
@luisdizon2486 Жыл бұрын
We have Quran manuscripts that predate the Abbasids though. How does this theory account for that?
@toddbeamer6131 Жыл бұрын
@@luisdizon2486 "predate the Abbasids" Where is a muhammed quran? None. Where is an Uthman quran? None. Even though both are THE most important qurans in islam, and they supposedly had an empire to write, copy, distribute and protect them. How is it possible that none of those exist? The six earliest "complete" qurans have been examined by islamic scholars (e.g. Prof. Dr. Ekmeleddin İhsanoğlu, and Dr. Tayyar Altıkula), and even they say they are not Uthman qurans. Datings are 8th - 9th century. Most are incomplete. Then you have texts like the Birmingham manuscript, which may well be of the Ummayyad era, but is only two pages and is purely Christian, the material clearly borrowed from the 7 sleepers of Ephesus, the proto-evangelium of James, and the story of Moses.
@Johnnythegoat063 ай бұрын
@@luisdizon2486no you don’t 💀
@tylerd132Ай бұрын
@@Johnnythegoat06site the source
@lukesusilo2112 Жыл бұрын
that the standard holes, has narratives in it
@bongolegacy Жыл бұрын
TicToc Time yo Rock. Always I see these Videos streamed 8Hrs ago, today 2Hrs ago
@francis_boulle Жыл бұрын
And the moral of the story is… quran is not perfectly preserved. When the context can be changed by zabar, nukta, zer or pesh, how can al-lah expect the non native speakers to have any clue of how to recite or what on earth are they reciting. But anyways, I thank Lord Jesus Christ, who brings us knowledge and may God bless David and Luis, I pray the Holy Spirit protects you both and encourages you two to bring people to our Heavenly Father, in the name of Jesus and by the Holy Spirit, Amen. 🙏✝️
@noreenismail3832 Жыл бұрын
Qur’an Surah Taha: verse 13-16 20:13 And I have chosen you, so listen to what is revealed [to you]. 20:14 Indeed, I am Allah. There is no deity except Me, so worship Me and establish prayer for My remembrance. 20:15 Indeed, the Hour is coming - I almost conceal it - so that every soul may be recompensed according to that for which it strives. 20:16 So do not let one avert you from it who does not believe in it and follows his desire, for you [then] would perish.
@_BillyMandalay Жыл бұрын
Muslims actually think an oral tradition is the best way to preserve a text ?
@toddbeamer6131 Жыл бұрын
They are forced to use this excuse because there is no 7th century quran. Not one. Not a muhammed quran. Not an Uthman quran. Nothing. We now know why. The cult was a project of the later abassids, to create a religion that would bind the arab empire together.
@staged00 Жыл бұрын
Since they came later at 7 AD, their next move can be predictable because they likely will repeat the history. Can they withstand the truth?
@noreenismail3832 Жыл бұрын
Qur’an Surah Al-Ma'idah: verse 68,71 5:68 Say, ˹O Prophet,˺ “O People of the Book! You have nothing to stand on unless you observe the Torah, the Gospel, and what has been revealed to you from your Lord.” And your Lord’s revelation to you ˹O Prophet˺ will only cause many of them to increase in wickedness and disbelief. So do not grieve for the people who disbelieve. 5:71 They thought there would be no consequences, so they turned a blind eye and a deaf ear. Yet Allah turned to them in forgiveness ˹after their repentance˺, but again many became blind and deaf. And Allah is All-Seeing of what they do.
@dani4157 Жыл бұрын
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.”
@ikyjunior2606 Жыл бұрын
Muhammad is the way?
@adobinobi1 Жыл бұрын
Marijn van Putten is more reliable when it comes to Qur'anic Arabic, the Canonical Reading Traditions and Arabic Linguistics
@apolloniusoftyana7049 Жыл бұрын
They don't care about serious scholarship. They just want to bash Islam.
@adobinobi1 Жыл бұрын
@@apolloniusoftyana7049 yeah with elaborate lies to people who have no idea what islam is
@jessgalaxia4 ай бұрын
What makes Marijn more reliable?
@tylerd132Ай бұрын
@@jessgalaxiathey can never explain how they just make statements and just say it’s a fact. Every Hadith you use isn’t a good one blah blah blah
@celiand2618 Жыл бұрын
I came once upon an ottoman empire complaint that there were too many different Corans in circulation (I think it was eight) and the consequent efforts to reduce said numbers. It came from a lecturer of the Institut du Monde Arabe. Call them the "french litterate muslims and friends", if you will.
@jurnalart1215 ай бұрын
😂😂😂 berikan buktinya, 8 alquran itu
@celiand26185 ай бұрын
@@jurnalart121 Ottoman Empire history. You might want to contact the "Institut du monde arabe" for the archives.
@jurnalart1215 ай бұрын
@@celiand2618 I believe more in the Koran which was held by the companions of the Prophet Muhammad SAW (Abu Bakar, Uthman bin Affan, Umar bin Khattab, Saad bin Abi Waqqas) rather than a burnt Koran, in the same year Friend of the Prophet Muhammad SAW "Sa'ad bin Abi Waqas" has spread the Koran on the Chinese peninsula, and there is no difference between the Chinese version of the Koran and today.
@jurnalart1215 ай бұрын
@@celiand2618 and this was still long before the ottoman empire
@celiand26185 ай бұрын
@@jurnalart121 I strongly suggest you ask the "burning question" of the Qira'at. That's a starting point. You will dig deeper later on once you understand the basic problem of 10 Qira'at for the ahruf Uthman did not eliminate.
@richardokeefe7410 Жыл бұрын
Towards the end: the Quran has entire chapters missing. I think it's fair to say that that is comparable to the NT examples he mentions. Indeed, it's fair to say that it's a much *larger* difference. We don't have surviving mushafs with those missing chapters and verses, but then the Bible has never been through the Uthman treatment.
@1089S Жыл бұрын
Why did Allah choose such a confusing language? Let me guess, Allaho aalem.
@I9s7lam5is-S3tu1pid Жыл бұрын
@@mf2015😂😂😂
@shayalynn Жыл бұрын
@@mf2015but is that really true? I thought believers are told they could end up going to hell and on the last Day, Allah will decide to save those whom he will and will create a bridge for some to escape from hell.
@1089S Жыл бұрын
@@mf2015 Quran 49:14, do not say we believe, but say we submit. So your belief does not save you from the hell fire. Come, and get to know Jesus and you will be born again and you will have eternal life .
@stayathome3634 Жыл бұрын
God bless
@CliftonSammut Жыл бұрын
Haven't finished the video yet but, I saw another video about textual criticism and mention that we have around 30 Quran which have contradiction text with thousands of differences which sometime change the theology as well. Thanks for this video as well
@toddbeamer6131 Жыл бұрын
And now there is an online database of variants to point all muslims to. The corpus coranicum. It displays the texts of several different arabic qurans so you can see the text variants across them. When cult members claim there are no changes, or that they are 'all the same', you can point them to that database and ask them what they see. Rather than be honest, they run away.
@paynedv Жыл бұрын
One Holy Catholic Apostolic Church
@ericlima28326 ай бұрын
Thank you
@omarmohammed6597 Жыл бұрын
So how many times Mr jiibril brought these variants to Mohammed that Muslims should Recite the Quran exactly as jiibril brought to Mohammed?
@frederickpaul8205 Жыл бұрын
Religious Conceit ‘Do not be over-righteous, neither be over-wise - why destroy yourself?’ (Ecclesiastes 7:16) Solomon is referring to those who are full of religious conceit. Some people become overly righteous or wise in their own eyes, believing that only their religious acts, or way of doing things, are acceptable to God. They are intolerant and have closed their mind to anything else. They are usually argumentative and legalistic; deluded by their own religious acts. They are so rigid or narrow in their views that they lose their sensitivity to the true reason for doing right - to honor God. It is exhausting being around legalistic or conceited people isn’t it? Usually they don’t listen well to another point of view. If they seem to listen it is only to divert the conversation back to their own beliefs and opinions. These people are often full of good works and religious acts to show their good behavior to God. But they have become so caught up in their right behavior, that their attitude towards others who may be different, lacks understanding and sensitivity. In short, they destroy whatever relationship that existed with others. God created us to be whole people who seek to please Him by seeking His righteousness and goodness. Not our own. Over-righteous and over-wise people will end up destroying themselves, their relationship with others and also with God. For those of us who tend to lean towards religious conceit, let’s take a sober and humble attitude by reflecting on Ecclesiastes 7: 20, ‘There is not a righteous man on earth who does what is right and never sins.’ None of us are perfect; our religious conceit is in vain. Prayer:- ‘Heavenly Father, forgive me for the way I have behaved towards other Christians who live differently to me. You have not called me to judge them, but to love them. I want to honor you Lord so help me to serve you lovingly rather than religiously. Thank you.’ In Jesus’ Mighty Name, AMEN! Final Thoughts:- Even those who follow Christ sincerely may be different in behavior to ourselves. Let’s not be quick to judge. We are not the one to say that our way is right and theirs is wrong. Let Christ be the judge of them, while with fear and trembling, we concentrate on working out our own salvation (Philippians 2:12). Be Greatly Blessed! Amen!
@jay17hills Жыл бұрын
at 1:10:00 he meant to write 88:22 not 88:2 👍
@Taydutt1310 ай бұрын
I understand why you dont want to come to any conclusions about the implications of the variants to Islam Edit: people have taken the base text and added aramaic diacritical marks and it's ancient christian hymns
@IsmaelMahmud-k3v Жыл бұрын
Let no waste your time. There is only 1Quran. Since 1444 years the recitation is the same in Arabic and will remain until judgment day. If tomorrow someone tries to copy the Quran and make few changes. Even our blind person will correct the mistakes. They not blind in hearts. The Quran is protected. If tomorrow all Holy books disappeared. With no memories stck nothing. I wonder Whick the only holy book to be writen in its original language? Quran is the only book to memorized in the world, no any other books. The Quran is a miracle ❤
@MrOsiric Жыл бұрын
Can it be said that because of the dots and diacritical marks ... arabic is the worst language to reveal your holy scripture? Misplacing those dots or even a speck of dirt or grime in the manuscript can turn your readings into nonsense?
@TheCondescendingRedditor Жыл бұрын
Another reason it’s not the word of God lol
@Zero-vt5qw6 ай бұрын
Anyone who is trying to prove something about the Quran skeptically he needs to be extremely fluent in arabic or else his points never gonna be backed strongly
@tylerd132Ай бұрын
Why? Why can’t gods word be backed in another language? That’s really limiting god isn’t it? So all the books that are classic can’t be appreciated unless you are reading it’s language. I guess anything by homer or Plato was made by god too then right?
@hippipdip Жыл бұрын
The truth of the Quran variants - all of them are too boring to slog your way through.
@aqe7914 Жыл бұрын
David from the Woods, mute point. I am from Central Asia and we have manuscripts in Bukhara and Turkmenistan that you are not aware of.
@littlesoul828211 ай бұрын
So?
@snowforest1998 Жыл бұрын
Not to be picky but sometimes just let the guest speak till he finishes
@Vampy_Rhombus5006 Жыл бұрын
12:00 gonna pick this up another time done
@noreenismail3832 Жыл бұрын
Qur’an Surah Qaf: verse 1-4 50:1 Qãf. By the glorious Quran! 50:2 ˹All will be resurrected,˺ yet the deniers are astonished that a warner has come to them from among themselves ˹warning of resurrection˺. So the disbelievers say, “This is an astonishing thing! 50:3 ˹Will we be returned to life,˺ when we are dead and reduced to dust? Such a return is impossible.” 50:4 We certainly know what the earth consumes of them ˹after their death˺, and with us is a well-preserved Record.1
@noreenismail3832 Жыл бұрын
Qur’an Surah Qaf: verse 5-11 50:5 In fact, they reject the truth when it has come to them, so they are in a confused state.1 50:6 Have they not then looked at the sky above them: how We built it and adorned it ˹with stars˺, leaving it flawless? 50:7 As for the earth, We spread it out and placed upon it firm mountains, and produced in it every type of pleasant plant- 50:8 ˹all as˺ an insight and a reminder to every servant who turns ˹to Allah˺. 50:9 And We send down blessed rain from the sky, bringing forth gardens and grains for harvest, 50:10 and towering palm trees ˹loaded˺ with clustered fruit, 50:11 ˹as˺ a provision for ˹Our˺ servants. And with this ˹rain˺ We revive a lifeless land. Similar is the emergence ˹from the graves˺.
@Tar-Elenion Жыл бұрын
@@noreenismail3832 Why the Clear Quran translation?
@noreenismail3832 Жыл бұрын
Quran Surah Ash-Shu'ara : verse 192-197 26:192 And indeed, it [i.e., the Qur’ān] is the revelation of the Lord of the worlds. 26:193 The Trustworthy Spirit [i.e., Gabriel] has brought it down 26:194 Upon your heart, [O Muḥammad] - that you may be of the warners - 26:195 In a clear Arabic language. 26:196 And indeed, it is [mentioned] in the scriptures of former peoples. 26:197 And has it not been a sign to them that it is recognized by the scholars of the Children of Israel?
@noreenismail3832 Жыл бұрын
Quran Surah Ash-Shu'ara : verse 198-204 26:198 And even if We had revealed it to one among the foreigners1 26:199 And he had recited it to them [perfectly],1 they would [still] not have been believers in it. 26:200 Thus have We inserted it [i.e., disbelief] into the hearts of the criminals. 26:201 They will not believe in it until they see the painful punishment. 26:202 And it will come to them suddenly while they perceive [it] not. 26:203 And they will say, "May we be reprieved?" 26:204 So for Our punishment are they impatient?
@Yuhanna8.23 Жыл бұрын
⚡Matthew 24:11-14 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall grow cold. But he who endures to the end shall be saved. And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world as a testimony to all nations; and then the end shall come. ⚡Galatians 1:8 But even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach any other gospel to you than that which we have preached to you, let him be eternally accursed. ⚡Matthew 7:15-16 Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. You shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thorn bushes, or figs from thistles? ⚡Allah creates false christ at the cross Matthew 24:24 For false Christs shall arise, and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders; so as to deceive, if it were possible, even the very elect. ⚡Mark 13:21-22 And then if any man says to you, Lo, here is the Christ; or, lo, there he is; do not believe him: For false Christs and false prophets shall arise, and shall show signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect. ⚡1 John 4:2-3 By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God: And every spirit that does not confess Jesus, is not of God: this is the spirit of antichrist, of which you have heard that it was coming; and now is already in the world. ⚡Romans 16:17-18 Now I urge you, brethren, take note of those who cause divisions and difficulties, contrary to the doctrine which you have learned; and avoid them. For they do not serve our Lord Christ, but their own bellies; and by smooth words and flattering speech they deceive the hearts of the simple. ⚡2 Peter 2:1-3 But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who secretly shall bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. And many shall follow their licentious ways; and because of them the way of truth shall be maligned. And in greed they shall exploit you with false words: the judgment against them from of old does not linger, and their condemnation does not slumber. ⚡DJINNBRIL the fallen angel will be punish for creating islam 2 Peter 2:4 For if God did not spare the angels who sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into pits of gloom, to be reserved for judgment;
@GoldenBoy17628 Жыл бұрын
Don't even try to compare qiraat with bible versions and contradictions
@luisdizon2486 Жыл бұрын
I didn't make any comparisons. This is strictly about Quranic studies
@osuclassof88 Жыл бұрын
when a non arab teaching about quran, its like Nigerian trying to teach japanese master about bonsai
@luisdizon2486 Жыл бұрын
Lots of Muslim scholars are non-Arab (Iranian, Turkish, Indian, etc.). So I don't see why being non-Arab should be a hindrance.
@osuclassof88 Жыл бұрын
@luisdizon2486 agreed. They studied Arabic to ensure they don't spread deviant teaching, which some are event though they claim to be Muslim and ex Muslims.
@osuclassof88 Жыл бұрын
@luisdizon2486 let's bible be our witness and see if it is reliable witness
@tafazzi-on-discord Жыл бұрын
can you name one mistake in the video?
@keyaamabrahams7984 Жыл бұрын
@@luisdizon2486 These guys are not scholars. You don't hear this nonsense from real academics as you do from Mr wood.
@paulusmadison329 Жыл бұрын
Regarding this religion, it's simple, the truth is "nothing is true", even God "does not exist".
@tylerweaver8720 Жыл бұрын
Comment to help the algorithm.
@luisdizon2486 Жыл бұрын
امين
@Logia1978 Жыл бұрын
We have amateurs and haters... then we have real scholarship: Try some real scholarship...
@noreenismail3832 Жыл бұрын
Qur’an Surah Yunus: verse 1-11 10:1 Alif, Lām, Rā.1 These are the verses of the wise2 Book. 10:2 Have the people been amazed that We revealed [revelation] to a man from among them, [saying], "Warn mankind and give good tidings to those who believe that they will have a [firm] precedence of honor1 with their Lord"? [But] the disbelievers say, "Indeed, this is an obvious magician." 10:3 Indeed, your Lord is Allah, who created the heavens and the earth in six days and then established Himself above the Throne,1 arranging the matter [of His creation]. There is no intercessor except after His permission. That is Allah, your Lord, so worship Him. Then will you not remember? 10:4 To Him is your return all together. [It is] the promise of Allah [which is] truth. Indeed, He begins the [process of] creation and then repeats it that He may reward those who have believed and done righteous deeds, in justice. But those who disbelieved will have a drink of scalding water and a painful punishment for what they used to deny. 10:5 It is He who made the sun a shining light and the moon a derived light and determined for it phases - that you may know the number of years and account [of time]. Allah has not created this except in truth. He details the signs for a people who know. 10:6 Indeed, in the alternation of the night and the day and [in] what Allah has created in the heavens and the earth are signs for a people who fear Allah. 10:7 Indeed, those who do not expect the meeting with Us and are satisfied with the life of this world and feel secure therein and those who are heedless of Our signs - 10:8 For those their refuge will be the Fire because of what they used to earn. 10:9 Indeed, those who have believed and done righteous deeds - their Lord will guide them because of their faith. Beneath them rivers will flow in the Gardens of Pleasure. 10:10 Their call therein will be, "Exalted are You, O Allah," and their greeting therein will be, "Peace." And the last of their call will be, "Praise to Allah, Lord of the worlds!" 10:11 And if Allah was to hasten for the people the evil [they invoke]1 as He hastens for them the good, their term would have been ended for them.2 But We leave the ones who do not expect the meeting with Us, in their transgression, wandering blindly.
@Simsam-b1d Жыл бұрын
Great work exposing the cult
@stevekhan9987 Жыл бұрын
The end of the video though 😂😂😂😂
@anntakamaki1960 Жыл бұрын
Did the old ancient qurans have verse divisions?
@noreenismail3832 Жыл бұрын
Qur’an Surah Ali 'Imran: verse 52-60 3:52 When Jesus sensed disbelief from his people, he asked, “Who will stand up with me for Allah?” The disciples replied, “We will stand up for Allah. We believe in Allah, so bear witness that we have submitted.” 3:53 ˹They prayed to Allah,˺ “Our Lord! We believe in Your revelations and follow the messenger, so count us among those who bear witness.” 3:54 And the disbelievers made a plan ˹against Jesus˺, but Allah also planned-and Allah is the best of planners. 3:55 ˹Remember˺ when Allah said, “O Jesus! I will take you1 and raise you up to Myself. I will deliver you from those who disbelieve, and elevate your followers above the disbelievers until the Day of Judgment. Then to Me you will ˹all˺ return, and I will settle all your disputes.
@dani4157 Жыл бұрын
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.”
@D-ns2sg Жыл бұрын
Is sir Luis Dizon a Filipino?
@luisdizon2486 Жыл бұрын
Yes
@noreenismail3832 Жыл бұрын
Qur’an Surah Taha: verse 130-131 20:130 So be patient ˹O Prophet˺ with what they say. And glorify the praises of your Lord before sunrise and before sunset, and glorify Him in the hours of the night and at both ends of the day,1 so that you may be pleased ˹with the reward˺. 20:131 Do not let your eyes crave what We have allowed some of the disbelievers to enjoy; the ˹fleeting˺ splendour of this worldly life, which We test them with. But your Lord’s provision ˹in the Hereafter˺ is far better and more lasting.
@Mary-pi4ky3 ай бұрын
'Qiraah' in,Arabic does NOT change the meaning! Just these are different accents! Don't try to claim nonsense! We Arab Moslem, know our language well! May Allah Guid you ALL.
@apologeticsroadshow3 ай бұрын
You're either joking or you're lying. We've done entire shows going through differences in the in the Qirat, some of which are CONTRADICTIONS. Contradictions aren't dialects.
@Mary-pi4ky3 ай бұрын
@apologeticsroadshow You are certainly changing things for the sake you aim at! Again, Nonesense. We read or listen to the recitation of the Holy Quraan in different qiraat in Arabic, and there is NO CONTRADICTION. These are NOT dialects! Dialects may differ in vocabulary and grammar from the mother language, but these are related to accents as we consider the American and British accents of English. I am a linguist, and I know well what I am talking about! DON'T TRY TO UTTER NONESENSE! If you seek the truth, I suggest that you interview someone who is a specialist in language and religion such as Dr. Ali Ataei. He is a specialist in Arabic,Aramaic, and Hebrew
@radirandom2 ай бұрын
@@Mary-pi4ky ahki, that is not true. i am a muslim and must tell u that the prophet saw taught variations outside dialectual variants too!! Watch farid responds video refuting this live stream explain
@tylerd132Ай бұрын
@@Mary-pi4kyyeah yeah yeah listen to someone who approves my world view. We don’t care about your backwoods death cult lady
@noreenismail3832 Жыл бұрын
Qur’an Surah Yunus: verse 37 10:37 It is not ˹possible˺ for this Quran to have been produced by anyone other than Allah. In fact, it is a confirmation of what came before, and an explanation of the Scripture. It is, without a doubt, from the Lord of all worlds.
@noreenismail3832 Жыл бұрын
Qur’an Surah An-Naml: verse 76 27:76 Indeed, this Qur’ān relates to the Children of Israel most of that over which they disagree.
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.”
@richardsadiq-yb8cy Жыл бұрын
very true Truth remains truth
@noreenismail3832 Жыл бұрын
Qur’an Surah Al-Qasas: verse 51-56 28:51 And We have [repeatedly] conveyed to them the word [i.e., the Qur’ān] that they might be reminded. 28:52 Those to whom We gave the Scripture before it - they are believers in it. 28:53 And when it is recited to them, they say, "We have believed in it; indeed, it is the truth from our Lord. Indeed we were, [even] before it, Muslims [i.e., submitting to Allah]." 28:54 Those will be given their reward twice for what they patiently endured and [because] they avert evil through good, and from what We have provided them they spend. 28:55 And when they hear ill speech, they turn away from it and say, "For us are our deeds, and for you are your deeds. Peace will be upon you; we seek not the ignorant." 28:56 Indeed, [O Muḥammad], you do not guide whom you like, but Allah guides whom He wills. And He is most knowing of the [rightly] guided.
@dani4157 Жыл бұрын
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.”
@thegermanhero204 Жыл бұрын
@@dani4157 what does "no man cometh unto the father" mean?
@dani4157 Жыл бұрын
@@thegermanhero204 It means people can only go to God through Jesus
@thegermanhero204 Жыл бұрын
@@dani4157 what about the people before jesus?
@dani4157 Жыл бұрын
@@thegermanhero204 They had the old testament ways of doing things. Putting their faith in the promised messiah was enough
@thomasseah29625 ай бұрын
This is very damaging to the quoran. Shocking truth
@yajujmajuj1739 Жыл бұрын
We've heard so far, that... *d standard narrative has holes in it-Sheikh Yasir Qadhi *d scientific miracles are all debunked-daii Lily Dawah *d q'rap cannot be from a divine God-Sheikh Ahmad Qabanji *variants in d q'rap...it isn't a literary miracle- scholar Shady Nasser ...we're waiting for someone to admit pdf file isn't in d Bible, who wants that honor to etch his name in dawah history?
@umatveg Жыл бұрын
5:51 Protestantism in a nutshell
@ramysoliman32 Жыл бұрын
you both just need to start learning arabic and come again, you just mentioned some arabic words that don't even exist, what is مزيطر
@souzajustin19d Жыл бұрын
Arabic is capitalized, you obviously do not know anything and not qualified to have an opinion.
@littlesoul828211 ай бұрын
Just because *you* don't know it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
@noreenismail3832 Жыл бұрын
Qur’an Surah Az-Zumar: verse 41-42 39:41 Surely We have revealed to you the Book ˹O Prophet˺ with the truth for humanity. So whoever chooses to be guided, it is for their own good. And whoever chooses to stray, it is only to their own loss. You are not a keeper over them. 39:42 ˹It is˺ Allah ˹Who˺ calls back the souls ˹of people˺ upon their death as well as ˹the souls˺ of the living during their sleep. Then He keeps those for whom He has ordained death, and releases the others until ˹their˺ appointed time. Surely in this are signs for people who reflect.
@dani4157 Жыл бұрын
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.”
@toddbeamer6131 Жыл бұрын
1 hr, 19 min: an embarrassing hadith - that must be by definition da'if (weak)! All embarrassing hadiths are da'if, even if graded sahih (authentic).
@noreenismail3832 Жыл бұрын
Qur’an Surah Al-'Alaq: verse 1-8 96:1 Recite in the name of your Lord who created 96:2 Created man from a clinging substance. 96:3 Recite, and your Lord is the most Generous - 96:4 Who taught by the pen 96:5 Taught man that which he knew not. 96:6 No! [But] indeed, man transgresses 96:7 Because he sees himself self-sufficient. 96:8 Indeed, to your Lord is the return.
@noreenismail3832 Жыл бұрын
Qur’an Surah Al-'Alaq: verse 9-14 96:9 Have you seen the one who forbids 96:10 A servant when he prays? 96:11 Have you seen if he is upon guidance 96:12 Or enjoins righteousness? 96:13 Have you seen if he denies and turns away - 96:14 Does he not know that Allah sees? 96.15 No! If he does not desist, We will surely drag him by the forelock1 96:16 A lying, sinning forelock. 96:17 Then let him call his associates; 96:18 We will call the angels of Hell.1 96:19 No! Do not obey him. But prostrate and draw near [to Allah].
@dani4157 Жыл бұрын
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.”
@noreenismail3832 Жыл бұрын
Qur’an Surah Al-'Ankabut :41-44 29:41 The example of those who take allies other than Allah is like that of the spider who takes [i.e., constructs] a home. And indeed, the weakest of homes is the home of the spider, if they only knew. 29:42 Indeed, Allah knows whatever thing they call upon1 other than Him. And He is the Exalted in Might, the Wise. 29:43 And these examples We present to the people, but none will understand them except those of knowledge. 29:44 Allah created the heavens and the earth in truth. Indeed in that is a sign for the believers.
@dani4157 Жыл бұрын
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.”
@nebucamv5524 Жыл бұрын
17:00 Yes, you should always have an eye on us Germans. 😆🥴 We rock! 😏
@luisdizon2486 Жыл бұрын
Ja das ist recht.
@noreenismail3832 Жыл бұрын
Qur’an Surah Al-Isra: verse 18-25 17:18 Whoever desires this fleeting world ˹alone˺, We hasten in it whatever We please to whoever We will; then We destine them for Hell, where they will burn, condemned and rejected. 17:19 But whoever desires the Hereafter and strives for it accordingly, and is a ˹true˺ believer, it is they whose striving will be appreciated. 17:20 We provide both the former and the latter from the bounty of your Lord. And the bounty of your Lord can never be withheld. 17:21 See how We have favoured some over others ˹in this life˺, but the Hereafter is certainly far greater in rank and in favour. *17:22** Do not set up any other god with Allah, or you will end up condemned, abandoned.* 17:23 For your Lord has decreed that you worship none but Him. And honour your parents. If one or both of them reach old age in your care, never say to them ˹even˺ ‘ugh,’ nor yell at them. Rather, address them respectfully. 17:24 And be humble with them out of mercy, and pray, “My Lord! Be merciful to them as they raised me when I was young.” 17:25 Your Lord knows best what is within yourselves. If you are righteous, He is certainly All-Forgiving to those who ˹constantly˺ turn to Him.
@dani4157 Жыл бұрын
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.”
@josm1481 Жыл бұрын
I saw Van Putten claim the ONLY way the extant versions of the Koran could be so similar was the scribes were very diligent. Which you me, automatically discredited him as we know of the consistent, historical attempts to purge errant copies. To not acknowledge the impact of constant editing and purges on removing errant copies seemed a significant oversight (but also something that would endear himself to Ms).
@toddbeamer6131 Жыл бұрын
I don't understand van Putten's position at all, unless it is to gather lots of research money and not get murdered by the 'religion of piece(s)'.
@noreenismail3832 Жыл бұрын
Qur’an Surah Ali 'Imran: verse 77-84 3:77 Indeed, those who exchange the covenant of Allah and their [own] oaths for a small price will have no share in the Hereafter, and Allah will not speak to them or look at them on the Day of Resurrection, nor will He purify them; and they will have a painful punishment. 3:78 And indeed, there is among them a party who alter the Scripture with their tongues so you may think it is from the Scripture, but it is not from the Scripture. And they say, "This is from Allah," but it is not from Allah. And they speak untruth about Allah while they know. 3:79 It is not for a human [prophet] that Allah should give him the Scripture and authority and prophethood and then he would say to the people, "Be servants to me rather than Allah," but [instead, he would say], "Be pious scholars of the Lord because of what you have taught of the Scripture and because of what you have studied." 3:80 Nor could he order you to take the angels and prophets as lords. Would he order you to disbelief after you had been Muslims? 3:81 And [recall, O People of the Scripture], when Allah took the covenant of the prophets, [saying], "Whatever I give you of the Scripture and wisdom and then there comes to you a messenger confirming what is with you, you [must] believe in him and support him." [Allah] said, "Have you acknowledged and taken upon that My commitment?" They said, "We have acknowledged it." He said, "Then bear witness, and I am with you among the witnesses." 3:82 And whoever turned away after that - they were the defiantly disobedient. 3:83 So is it other than the religion of Allah they desire, while to Him have submitted [all] those within the heavens and earth, willingly or by compulsion, and to Him they will be returned? 3:84 Say, "We have believed in Allah and in what was revealed to us and what was revealed to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, and the Descendants [al-Asbāṭ], and in what was given to Moses and Jesus and to the prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and we are Muslims [submitting] to Him."
@dani4157 Жыл бұрын
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.”
@thistle_boy Жыл бұрын
"Christianity is a dead horse, so let's try to invalidate other religions!"
@violentartist560 Жыл бұрын
"Islam is BS and Muslims are still too blind too see the Truth "
@luisdizon2486 Жыл бұрын
I literally said in both the beginning and end of my presentation that that is NOT what I was trying to do.
@tafazzi-on-discord Жыл бұрын
Do you accept the FACT that the Quran was not perfectly preserved?
@theapocalypticgospel Жыл бұрын
The biggest problem concerning the Bible manuscripts is largely in the NT concerning the divinity of Jesus from early corrupters like Origin and Clement of Alexandria etc etc …
@noreenismail3832 Жыл бұрын
Qur’an Surah An-Nahl:verse 70-74 16:70 And Allah created you; then He will take you in death. And among you is he who is reversed to the most decrepit [old] age so that he will not know, after [having had] knowledge, a thing. Indeed, Allah is Knowing and Competent. 16:71 And Allah has favored some of you over others in provision. But those who were favored [i.e., given more] would not hand over their provision to those whom their right hands possess [i.e., slaves] so they would be equal to them therein.1 Then is it the favor of Allah they reject? 16:72 And Allah has made for you from yourselves mates and has made for you from your mates sons and grandchildren and has provided for you from the good things. Then in falsehood do they believe and in the favor of Allah they disbelieve? 16:73 And they worship besides Allah that which does not possess for them [the power of] provision from the heavens and the earth at all, and [in fact], they are unable. 16:74 So do not assert similarities to Allah. Indeed, Allah knows and you do not know.
@dani4157 Жыл бұрын
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.”
@gabrielmoses7545 Жыл бұрын
why don't people talk about the verses of other religions Muslims copy pasted in the Qur'an and what are the only verses that come from Muslims coupled with all the foreign words we find all over Quran don't ignore this when you talk about the Qur'an most of Quran come from other books and faiths the Arabic language use to have 6 letters they later added 22 more even some of the surah's is not from Islam its copied from the Arab pagan texts
@copticstate Жыл бұрын
Before Caliph Uthman standardised the Quranic consonantal text (QCT) around 650 CE, large numbers of variants later documented by Muslim scholars were read by various companions of Muhammad, often differing in whole words and phrases There are also hadith reports that substantial numbers of verses had already been lost. The fear of permanently losing verses is said to have motivated the initial collection of the Qur'an under Caliph Abu Bakr. Notwithstanding a number of scribal errors during the initial copying process, Uthman was essentially successful in stabilising the QCT, or rasm. However, due to limitations in the early stage of Arabic orthography in use at that time, a wide variety of oral readings (qira'at) within this standardised rasm was possible. Tens of thousands of variants are attributed to readers of the first couple of centuries, which include Muhammad's companions and early reciters, within and outside the standard rasm, besides those found in the ten canonical readings and their transmitters. The vast majority of recitation and printed Qurans in use today are based on the transmission of Hafs from the reading of 'Asim. It is believed upon Hudhayfah's request Uthman obtained the sheets of the Quran from Ḥafṣa and appointed a commission consisting of Zayd and three prominent Meccans, and instructed them to copy the sheets into several volumes based on the dialect of Quraysh, the main tribe of Mecca. Uthman's ordered to burn Qur'an copies and what other measures were taken by him to ensure that only accurate and authentic copies of Qur'an are available and circulated. Even after doing that we have today 3 dferent readings of Quran (Qiraat) Hafz version Warsh version and Qaloon verse . The question remains which one of all those qurans are the one that allah preserved in (heaven( in the Preserved Tablet اللوح المحفوظ During the rule of Uthman, differences in reading the Qur'an occurred due to the fact that when the Qur'an was first recorded, there were NO WRITTEN VOWELS in Arabic After consultation with other companions, Uthman collected ALL THE VARIANT VERSIONS of the Qur'an BURNED them and compiled his own Quran based on the one in Umar's daughter Hafsa's possession, who was the last surviving wife of the Prophet Muhammad, as well as The Prophet's main scribe Zaid ibn Thabit.
@Muslimah238me Жыл бұрын
FANTASTIC JOB JUST RUN AFTER MUHAMMAD AND CATCH HIS LIES
@M_A_R_I_A_M399_5 Жыл бұрын
The boy doesn't know basics of Arabic حسبي الله ونعم الوكيل
@suzanhargreaves Жыл бұрын
I much prefer the video of cross dressing David Wood 😂
@apologeticsroadshow Жыл бұрын
The one where I was making fun of Muhammad for dressing up in Aisha's nightie? I like that one too!
@noreenismail3832 Жыл бұрын
Qur’an Surah At-Tawbah: verse 30-35 9:30 The Jews say, “Ezra is the son of Allah,” while the Christians say, “The Messiah is the son of Allah.” Such are their baseless assertions, only parroting the words of earlier disbelievers. May Allah condemn them! How can they be deluded ˹from the truth˺? 9:31 They have taken their rabbis and monks as well as the Messiah, son of Mary, as lords besides Allah,1 even though they were commanded to worship none but One God. There is no god ˹worthy of worship˺ except Him. Glorified is He above what they associate ˹with Him˺! 9:32 They wish to extinguish Allah’s light1 with their mouths, but Allah will only allow His light to be perfected, even to the dismay of the disbelievers. 9:33 He is the One Who has sent His Messenger with ˹true˺ guidance and the religion of truth, making it prevail over all others, even to the dismay of the polytheists. 9:34 O believers! Indeed, many rabbis and monks consume people’s wealth wrongfully and hinder ˹others˺ from the Way of Allah. Give good news of a painful torment to those who hoard gold and silver and do not spend it in Allah’s cause. 9:35 The Day ˹will come˺ when their treasure will be heated up in the Fire of Hell, and their foreheads, sides, and backs branded with it. ˹It will be said to them,˺ “This is the treasure you hoarded for yourselves. Now taste what you hoarded!”
@noreenismail3832 Жыл бұрын
Qur’an Surah Al-'Ankabut: verse 47-52 29:47 And thus We have sent down to you the Book [i.e., the Qur’ān]. And those to whom We [previously] gave the Scripture believe in it. And among these [people of Makkah] are those who believe in it. And none reject Our verses except the disbelievers. 29:48 And you did not recite before it any scripture, nor did you inscribe one with your right hand. Then [i.e., otherwise] the falsifiers would have had [cause for] doubt. 29:49 Rather, it [i.e., the Qur’ān] is distinct verses [preserved] within the breasts of those who have been given knowledge. And none reject Our verses except the wrongdoers. 29:50 And they ask: “Why have no miracles been sent down to (Muhammad) from his Lord? Say (O Muhammad): “(The task of giving) miracles are within the Power of Allah alone - as for me, I am only a plain warner.” 29:51 (Is it right for them to ask for other miracles?) Is it not sufficient for them that We have revealed to you the Qur’an which is recited to them? Surely, in the Qur’an there is a mercy and an admonition to true believers. 29:52 Say (O Muhammad): “Allah is the All-Sufficient Witness (in the matter discussed) between me and you. He knows all that is in the heavens and the earth. And those who believe in falsehood, and deny Allah it is they who are the losers.”
@dani4157 Жыл бұрын
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.”
@pokemonbacon1237 Жыл бұрын
10:00 -15:00
@noreenismail3832 Жыл бұрын
Qur’an Surah Fatir:verse 1-8 35:1 All praise is for Allah, the Originator of the heavens and the earth, Who made angels ˹as His˺ messengers with wings-two, three, or four. He increases in creation whatever He wills. Surely Allah is Most Capable of everything. 35:2 Whatever mercy Allah opens up for people, none can withhold it. And whatever He withholds, none but Him can release it. For He is the Almighty, All-Wise. 35:3 O humanity! Remember Allah’s favours upon you. Is there any creator other than Allah who provides for you from the heavens and the earth? There is no god ˹worthy of worship˺ except Him. How can you then be deluded ˹from the truth˺? 35:4 If you are rejected by them, so too were messengers before you. And to Allah ˹all˺ matters will be returned ˹for judgment˺. 35:5 O humanity! Indeed, Allah’s promise is true. So do not let the life of this world deceive you, nor let the Chief Deceiver1 deceive you about Allah. 35:6 Surely Satan is an enemy to you, so take him as an enemy. He only invites his followers to become inmates of the Blaze. 35:7 Those who disbelieve will have a severe punishment. But those who believe and do good will have forgiveness and a great reward. 35:8 Are those whose evil-doing is made so appealing to them that they deem it good ˹like those who are rightly guided˺? ˹It is˺ certainly Allah ˹Who˺ leaves to stray whoever He wills, and guides whoever He wills. So do not grieve yourself to death over them ˹O Prophet˺. Surely Allah is All-Knowing of what they do.
@wolfenhauz Жыл бұрын
Gonna be some “why you have a pagan Mary worshipper on your stream!!!????!?” comments I can feel it.
@luisdizon2486 Жыл бұрын
More than a few lol
@wolfenhauz Жыл бұрын
@@luisdizon2486 just so predictable. Didn’t even have to read em to know lol.
@luisdizon2486 Жыл бұрын
@@wolfenhauz I just shrug it off. If anyone wants to get into a Catholic vs. Protestant debate, I can challenge them to do it in a different venue, but here we are co-belligerents.
@wolfenhauz Жыл бұрын
@@luisdizon2486 🤣 too right.
@wolfenhauz Жыл бұрын
@@luisdizon2486 LOL. Amen. I have challenged a few who were overtly rude to me, and guess how many took me up on it?
@uthman2281 Жыл бұрын
According to you?
@tafazzi-on-discord Жыл бұрын
according to all scholars
@uthman2281 Жыл бұрын
@@tafazzi-on-discord All scholars? what are you dreaming about?
@tafazzi-on-discord Жыл бұрын
@@uthman2281 A L L scholars
@luisdizon2486 Жыл бұрын
Can you name one example of an error that I've made?
@uthman2281 Жыл бұрын
@@luisdizon2486 The error begins in your assumption to be able to prove something that lies far in history. The most you can do is to share with us your view of the past regarding Islam. That's why I said " according to you " !
@osama-xm7gw Жыл бұрын
❤
@raysalmon6566 Жыл бұрын
God's got his reasons for not giving us explanations now that doesn't fly if you're finding your way out or if you're concerned and you have doubts about religion do not set an end goal don't set an end goal of I'm going to be a better Christian or I'm going to be an atheist bc you will lead yourself to that goal instead keep asking questions keep looking for evidence and follow the evidence where it goes instead of leading the evidence where you'd like it to go or where you're afraid it's going to go and realize you are not alone Anyone who loves their life will lose it I've got one life that I know I'm gonna get every second I spend arguing with somebody who's religious is is second I've wasted where I could have been learning something studying nature studying physics watching a movie I liked engaging with family members and I can understand why non-believers wouldn't want to engage I have a hard time understanding how believers don't don't love these subjects Leaving Christianity | Matt Dillahunty podcast today l'm joined by Matt delahonti John 12:25 25 Anyone who loves their life will lose it, while anyone who hates their life in this world will keep it for eternal life.
@noreenismail3832 Жыл бұрын
Qur’an Surah Al-Baqarah: verse 211-213 2:211 Ask the Children of Israel how many clear signs We have given them. And whoever trades Allah’s favour-after receiving it-˹for disbelief˺ should know that Allah is indeed severe in punishment. 2:212 The life of this world has been made appealing to the disbelievers, and they mock the believers. Those who are mindful ˹of Allah˺ will rank above them on the Day of Judgment. And Allah provides for whoever He wills without limit. 2:213 Humanity had once been one community ˹of believers before they lost faith˺. Then Allah raised prophets as deliverers of good news and as warners, and revealed to them the Scriptures in truth to judge among people regarding their disputes. And no one disputed the Scriptures except the very people who received them after clear proofs had come to them-out of jealousy. Then Allah, by His grace, has guided the believers to the truth regarding those disputes. And Allah guides whoever He wills to the Straight Path.
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⚡Matthew 24:11-14 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall grow cold. But he who endures to the end shall be saved. And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world as a testimony to all nations; and then the end shall come. ⚡Galatians 1:8 But even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach any other gospel to you than that which we have preached to you, let him be eternally accursed. ⚡Matthew 7:15-16 Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. You shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thorn bushes, or figs from thistles? ⚡Allah creates false christ at the cross Matthew 24:24 For false Christs shall arise, and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders; so as to deceive, if it were possible, even the very elect. ⚡Mark 13:21-22 And then if any man says to you, Lo, here is the Christ; or, lo, there he is; do not believe him: For false Christs and false prophets shall arise, and shall show signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect. ⚡1 John 4:2-3 By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God: And every spirit that does not confess Jesus, is not of God: this is the spirit of antichrist, of which you have heard that it was coming; and now is already in the world. ⚡Romans 16:17-18 Now I urge you, brethren, take note of those who cause divisions and difficulties, contrary to the doctrine which you have learned; and avoid them. For they do not serve our Lord Christ, but their own bellies; and by smooth words and flattering speech they deceive the hearts of the simple. ⚡2 Peter 2:1-3 But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who secretly shall bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. And many shall follow their licentious ways; and because of them the way of truth shall be maligned. And in greed they shall exploit you with false words: the judgment against them from of old does not linger, and their condemnation does not slumber. ⚡DJINNBRIL the fallen angel will be punish for creating islam 2 Peter 2:4 For if God did not spare the angels who sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into pits of gloom, to be reserved for judgment;
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John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.”
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Qur’an Surah Az-Zumar: verse 62-72 39:62 Allah is the Creator of all things, and He is the Maintainer of everything. 39:63 To Him belong the keys ˹of the treasuries˺ of the heavens and the earth. As for those who rejected the signs of Allah, it is they who will be the ˹true˺ losers. 39:64 Say, ˹O Prophet,˺ “Are you urging me to worship ˹anyone˺ other than Allah, O ignorant ones?” 39:65 It has already been revealed to you-and to those ˹prophets˺ before you-that if you associate others ˹with Allah˺, your deeds will certainly be void and you will truly be one of the losers. 39:66 Rather, worship Allah ˹alone˺ and be one of the grateful. 39:67 They have not shown Allah His proper reverence-when on the Day of Judgment the ˹whole˺ earth will be in His Grip, and the heavens will be rolled up in His Right Hand. Glorified and Exalted is He above what they associate ˹with Him˺! 39:68 The Trumpet will be blown and all those in the heavens and all those on the earth will fall dead, except those Allah wills ˹to spare˺. Then it will be blown again and they will rise up at once, looking on ˹in anticipation˺. 39:69 The earth1 will shine with the light of its Lord, the record ˹of deeds˺ will be laid ˹open˺, the prophets and the witnesses will be brought forward-and judgment will be passed on all with fairness. None will be wronged. 39:70 Every soul will be paid in full for its deeds, for Allah knows best what they have done. 39:71 Those who disbelieved will be driven to Hell in ˹successive˺ groups. When they arrive there, its gates will be opened and its keepers will ask them: “Did messengers not come to you from among yourselves, reciting to you the revelations of your Lord and warning you of the coming of this Day of yours?” The disbelievers will cry, “Yes ˹indeed˺! But the decree of torment has come to pass against the disbelievers.” 39:72 It will be said to them, “Enter the gates of Hell, to stay there forever.” What an evil home for the arrogant!
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John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.”
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How can you believe in any religion
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*Qur’an Surah Al-Ghashiyah: verse 1-16* 88:1 Has the news of the Overwhelming Event reached you ˹O Prophet˺? 88:2 On that Day ˹some˺ faces will be downcast, 88:3 ˹totally˺ overburdened, exhausted, 88:4 burning in a scorching Fire, 88:5 left to drink from a scalding spring. 88:6 They will have no food except a foul, thorny shrub, 88:7 neither nourishing nor satisfying hunger. 88:8 On that Day ˹other˺ faces will be glowing with bliss, 88:9 ˹fully˺ pleased with their striving, 88:10 in an elevated Garden, 88:11 where no idle talk will be heard. 88:12 In it will be a running spring, 88:13 along with thrones raised high, 88:14 and cups set at hand, 88:15 and ˹fine˺ cushions lined up, 88:16 and ˹splendid˺ carpets spread out.
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*Qur’an Surah At-Takwir: verse 26* 81:26 SO WHERE ARE YOU GOING?1