The truth about the 4B movement and feminism in South Korea + Tiktok calls me a misogynist?

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Anna Lee

Anna Lee

Күн бұрын

Addressing the '4b movement' that's supposedly huge in South Korea, according to Tiktok.
The things that ILBE and Megalia did:
Ilbe:
-there was an elementary school girl streaming on afreeca TV from her home and ilbe users went out terrorised her live with comments about how shitty her house is, calling her broke, you’re gonna grow up to be a h*, sl*, so she ended up crying and ending the live.
-taking pictures of their female cousins at home unknowingly (sleeping or resting), with the ilbe hand mark and saying ‘this is my cousin’.
-someone posted a link to download some Child p* for 3 minutes which got hastily deleted but some users had already shared it.
MEGALIA:
-called gay men AIDS carriers and snuck into gay communities and outed them online
-someone got pregnant, waited to find out the sex of the baby and once it was a boy, said they were going to abort it calling it 지지새끼’, aka, penis bastard, and referred to it as a parasite growing inside her so aborted it, and included a picture of her blood and clots afterwards.
-someone made a post about wanting to sexually ‘stiffen’ some young boys she was looking at in the playground and how badly she wanted to eat their innocent young ding dongs but she’s refraining from doing so. She was actually an elementary school teacher but she got found out and fired from her job.
-posting candid pictures of men’s parts with dick pics (seemingly underage) and making fun.
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@the_socialphobic_girl
@the_socialphobic_girl 4 ай бұрын
People are too comfortable acting like they know what they talk about and are quick to shut down anyone that disagrees with anything they say.
@morheimtv5666
@morheimtv5666 4 ай бұрын
And the thing is that they don't even try to use logical arguments. They shoot the shaming shotgun at the first sign of confrontation lol
@britneyt9253
@britneyt9253 4 ай бұрын
Exactly! That’s social media for you 😪
@lauralemon4890
@lauralemon4890 4 ай бұрын
The 4B movement could never be a mainstream movement in South Korea. It could never be a mainstream movement in Europe or even in the United States. Very few women in all countries are willing to give up on relationships with men for feminist reasons, it doesn't matter how bad they are. that's the truth. Women like that are a very small group in all societies, especially in societies like South Korea. It takes a lot of self-respect and self-preservation instinct to do that.
@ponykazy3725
@ponykazy3725 4 ай бұрын
​@@lauralemon4890 It's funny because in America, we make fun of the "men movement" that wanted to "move on from women." Cringe when men do it, slay when women do. Double standards much?
@lauralemon4890
@lauralemon4890 4 ай бұрын
@@ponykazy3725 you seem to think men and women are the same and face the same types of problems with the other gender. and the "men movement" don't move away from women. that would be a blessing. so obvioulsy there is a "double standard" and for good reason. It's not the same thing.
@LotusBloom0309
@LotusBloom0309 4 ай бұрын
As an American, I feel secondhand embarrassment when Americans try to Koreasplain Korea to a Korean woman. I’m also deeply uncomfortable for anyone to laugh and gloat while talking about the literal extinction of an ethnicity.
@yj8641
@yj8641 4 ай бұрын
“Koreasplain” 🤣🤣🤣 I’m Korean, and yes I have heard a lot of preaching about social problems in Korea from foreigners. Some of them have really weird ideas 😂
@LotusBloom0309
@LotusBloom0309 4 ай бұрын
@@yj8641 Many of them have probably never even been out of their home country before. 😂🤣😂🤣
@JamesHTso
@JamesHTso 4 ай бұрын
lol sum'll swear they know more about Korea than Koreans, especially the ones that probably can't even find Korea on the map lmfao
@rebacathek-popfan7950
@rebacathek-popfan7950 4 ай бұрын
They do this with literally every country 🥲
@JoyfulOne468
@JoyfulOne468 4 ай бұрын
And they ignore the great things that Korea has done. This country has completely turned their economy around in a relatively short time. Yes, there are issues, but what country doesn't have issues? ESPECIALLY the US of A! smh
@MrTony
@MrTony 4 ай бұрын
The irony of the original SK feminist movement was that they didn't have a problem with men, they had a problem with their mother in laws 😂
@MK_ULTRA420
@MK_ULTRA420 4 ай бұрын
SK mother in laws are a menace so that's totally understandable. They balance it out by being very very caring to the grandchildren.
@alvinsmith3894
@alvinsmith3894 4 ай бұрын
Nah. It's still rooted in what men were doing in general
@samuraijosh1595
@samuraijosh1595 4 ай бұрын
​@@alvinsmith3894it's rooted now. But if you're a Korean you know the specifics kekw
@roxyglow9670
@roxyglow9670 4 ай бұрын
is both. The men and the mother in law.
@anastasyavie6236
@anastasyavie6236 2 ай бұрын
this is another things that westerner doesn't understand, mother in law fear is a things and that doesn't necessarily because of "men"
@ladybirdlee3058
@ladybirdlee3058 4 ай бұрын
Tiktok pushes so much division
@suezcontours6653
@suezcontours6653 4 ай бұрын
Tik TOK? I think the USA run internet since 2008 did that all on its own. I don't see Gender wars in Third World Countries with Feminism and Red Pill Manosphere. It's First World countrires and its been happening long before Tik Tok
@sor3999
@sor3999 4 ай бұрын
It's basically owned by the Chinese government who would have an interest in sowing discord.
@suezcontours6653
@suezcontours6653 4 ай бұрын
@@sor3999 That's what the USA does, Sweetheart. Take accountability and Stop pushing your blame on someone else. You cry wolf enough times and everybody doesn't believe a word you say.
@dwp_orange8416
@dwp_orange8416 4 ай бұрын
Did you see how Tiktok pushed against the removal of itself in the US? Its an ingenious way of controlling the opinions of a certain demographic.
@chrystianaw8256
@chrystianaw8256 4 ай бұрын
Always
@aaawwweeee
@aaawwweeee 4 ай бұрын
I'm Korean man and thank you for clearing all the insane misinformation about korean men that's online and shared among foreigners. you are truly an amazing person.
@yannickjohn6930
@yannickjohn6930 4 ай бұрын
Thanks to Anna, the person trying to that hand sign is insecure herself, or themselves. They won't make friends this way... BTW: Flagged that person for making "that" gesture...
@51844mj
@51844mj 4 ай бұрын
Anna is a pick me girl
@yannickjohn6930
@yannickjohn6930 4 ай бұрын
@@51844mj And you're a "girl's girl"? For what reason??
@CutleryWonder
@CutleryWonder 4 ай бұрын
@@51844mj You're a numpty.
@reigenwb
@reigenwb 4 ай бұрын
a lot of the assumptions are not far off and i think anna can be a biased a lot of times
@lhw.iAviation
@lhw.iAviation 4 ай бұрын
In the past, people go on the internet to escape reality. Now, we are bringing reality back into the internet.
@hannah27_99
@hannah27_99 4 ай бұрын
I thought it was because of the high cost of living of raising a family. That's why the low birth rate is also happening in Japan. 🤔
@ChasingLions_
@ChasingLions_ 4 ай бұрын
you are quickly becoming one of my favorite creators. i hope you find your king asap 👑
@chriskimforlife
@chriskimforlife 2 ай бұрын
The gender pay gap statistic that is so often cited (the Global Gender Index by the WEF which ranks Korea 129th out of 149 countries) basically lumps together prior generations of women who didn't/couldn't participate in the labor market compared to their male counterparts with Korean women today. When you take this into account, which the Gender Inequality Index does, Korea ranks 11th, which is higher than the United States.
@adriantd69
@adriantd69 2 ай бұрын
Beautifully spoken Anna! Diversity and equality is important, but all forms of extremism whether from the left or right is just polarizing poison.
@czlowiekbazant
@czlowiekbazant 4 ай бұрын
I worked wit Koreans for 15 years, was in Korea couple of times and I can say that we have tendency to judge all from our Western perspective. I observed that role of women is not as these Western people say, for sure it is not patriarcat. In many cases I saw it was the women who decides about most important things in family.
@ryanmckenna2047
@ryanmckenna2047 Ай бұрын
Its good to hear someone with truly balanced views tell the situation how it is. It seems like most of the time the most extreme opinions are the easiest to find. We are having similar problems with gender wars here in the west. Men and Women need to focus on loving and supporting each other like you said. That is where the conversation needs to go. Thanks!
@hodusnack
@hodusnack 4 ай бұрын
As a Korean, I can say this is the most correct video I've ever seen which explain the Feminism in Korea
@jthencl
@jthencl 4 ай бұрын
As an American I would like to apologize to anyone that lost brain cells because of my countrymen.
@Vince3C
@Vince3C Ай бұрын
Thank you for this balanced, rational explanation of gender relations in South Korea.
@sssoundslike2259
@sssoundslike2259 4 ай бұрын
Very brave of you to make this video. I agree regarding feeling safe, London is more dangerous, you’re right. It’s a diverse hellhole.
@RicksCafeAmericana
@RicksCafeAmericana 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for your sensible and truthful thoughts. We need to return to sanity and you are a breath of fresh air.
@PrimordialOracleOfManyWorlds
@PrimordialOracleOfManyWorlds 4 ай бұрын
anna, tyvm for the clarification. i hope you find life's happiness.
@canmex9422
@canmex9422 2 ай бұрын
the first women in the tiktok video has probably never looked at the birthrate chart, there are much better reasons to explain low birthrate than women striking anyone with two baincells should understand that i fear, no matter how much you try you wont convince these radicals with data and facts. i am also surprised and respect that you said megalia is misandrist. in all the western media i found (outside of reddit) megalia is usually considered something good. while i can not speak korean, having googletranslated some of the megalia site back in the day, i have to say everyone thinking differently is just ..... maybe as a sidenote, i think its true that KDramas are very differt from the average hollywood series, less weight is put on 'checking all the inclusin boxes' for example, but in my opinion this makes the shows better not worse. It can focus on the story, rather than checking boxes edit: oh and to add to the paygap discussion, even when accounting for anything tangible like experience and workhours etc. there is still a 'small' paygap, depending on the study the difference is still about 2 to 7%. the last couple of percentage is usually explained with men taking more risks, like job hopping (giving up a job and searching for one with higher pay, men risk that more than women). There are a couple of other such 'untangible' explanations but similar. so ironically, what makes them more prone to crime also makes them earn 2 to 7% more
@YouTubemasrer
@YouTubemasrer 2 ай бұрын
Ofcourse a lesbian would act like that
@jennywakemen5303
@jennywakemen5303 4 ай бұрын
Amazing video, totally agree with everything, don’t let those people try to silence you from speaking the truth.
@captaindemobeard9560
@captaindemobeard9560 4 ай бұрын
Yep, Talking to these tiktokers is like talking to a brick wall. That's pretty much the same for us normal people in the west.
@bin31zz
@bin31zz 4 ай бұрын
So why the gender pay gap and the household work gap?? This lady just pandering to a bunch of dude
@Enigmata23
@Enigmata23 4 ай бұрын
Korea just got a taste of what it has been like for people from African countries. Our countries have been sensationalized by foreigners for so long we get surprised if they ever report on an issue accurately. Subconcious colonization.
@Batmans_Pet_Goldfish
@Batmans_Pet_Goldfish 4 ай бұрын
Yep. Their western guilt turns to condescension really quickly.
@유호성-b1u
@유호성-b1u 4 күн бұрын
Yes. Now I fully understand your pain. sorry. In Western and Korean mass media, Africa is portrayed only as a jungle or a battlefield. This can lead to bias.
@iimmortalldreams
@iimmortalldreams 4 ай бұрын
Based Anna. They really think WGTOW is a popular mentality
@MAJ-Pronounce
@MAJ-Pronounce 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for being so reasonable in a world of full of ideologues. Your rational addressing of such a hot button topics was quite refreshing to me. Also, you touched on it (and I'm not expecting you to address this), but the anger and despair of Gen-Z males here in the U.S. and, as you mentioned, in Korean isn't really getting any considerate, balanced attention by women (whom supposedly are more empathetic than males). My young, 20-ish, female co-worker is afraid of the males in her generation, because, as she says, "They are all boiling mad pressure cookers ready to blow." And to that I say, "Of course," being hated on because you're male, feels extremely unfair. You know? If women become men, then who will really care that their male counter parts have decided it's better to self-delete then to exist in a world where they are hated "by everyone."
@TeacherNellie
@TeacherNellie 3 ай бұрын
As a Korean woman born and living in Korea, I find it very interesting that people call it a movement. I've seen a lot of comments saying that there's no such thing as 4B movement in Korea and it was just all made up by attention-seeking Tik Tokers or something. So let me clarify it. There is NO 4B movement. YET, THERE IS 4B SENTIMENT. This wildly shared sentiment presented itself around 2015, 2016, where women started to fight back misogyny as far as I remember. But it had no name nor were there open discussions about it. It was just widely shared feelings across women in their 20's and 30's. You see, Korea had always been very misogynistic, but at that time, it was just so awful that I can't even find words to describe it. With the development of the internet, men finally got to get their hands on the platforms packed with fellow angry men and started to ENJOY misogyny like a sport. All kinds of women were name-called. (for example, 된장녀 referring to women who buys themself coffee in StarBucks or buy something expensive for themselves because women are not supposed to spend their money on “unnecessary” things. By the way, before the arrival of StarBucks, cafe was kind of men's culture. They were usually served coffee by women in very revealing clothe, whom the customers used to feel up while enjoying coffee. This place is called 다방 meaning tea room. 김치녀 referring to women who let his man pay for their meal on the date or accept expensive presents. And you are whore if you travel abroad because traveling abroad means having sex with foreign men.) Those words actually appeared in 2000's and at first it beautifully worked for men. As men started to label each and every womon attaching huge stigma, women started to check themselves through men’s eyes. But there’s no way you can become a good woman. You buy only cheap clothes, you don’t drink expensive coffee, you put money in the joint-account for date and let the man have the card, but you are still to be blamed because you’re not beautiful enough, not considerate enough, or too nice even. Their standards were simply not reachable. But women still tried to behave themselves policed by this inner men, to match up to the standards and not to be a bad women, as if it were possible. And what happened in 2015 was very unexpected. Two women flying to HK on their trip were infected with MERS, which was contagious disease that hadn’t entered Korea yet. Because they were women, men online were so thrilled to get their target and hunted them down searching for their private information. The women were called 메르스녀(MERS WOMEN) as well as whores because they must have gone there as sex workers in their theory. (Korean men fear women experiencing other cultures and realizing what we experience here is not normal.) That was kind of epiphany moment for many young women. We eventually learned the lesson. "Men are never going to stop harassing us however hard we try. If you can be bullied and stalked just because you’ve caught some virus as a woman, why try?" And the following year, there was this very tragic incident where a young women in her 20's was stabbed to death in a public bathroom in Gangnam, downtown packed with people. The perpetrator said he wanted to kill any women so he was waiting hiding in a booth for a woman to enter. Several men who came before the victim were very safe, of course. Even with his statement against women, the court never admitted it was hate crime, neither did men online saying “she was just unlucky”. I think that was the last straw, being killed just for being a woman. Since then, more and more women have been put off men, hence not dating, let alone marriage. The point is, we do so because it’s just a natural course of action. I mean, is it possible to have an intimate relationship with somebody who decisively hates you? When we say no dating, we don’t intend to change patriarchy and men. We didn't start it as a movement. I’m not sure I can even say we started it because it was more like these shared feelings dormant for a long time in women’s heart burst out out of blue. And here we are. We are just so fed up with all the things men do to us and all we can do is try our best to avoid them (especially when the court system and the government is not on your side.) Still, women don't openly talk about it. We can't. A few months ago, a short-haired woman was heavily attacked in a convenient store because "she must be a feminist seeing her short hair." (And the court ruled out hate crime against women again despite the perpetrator saying so.) In Korea, men use the word femi(=feminist, 페미) as an insult, another name-calling for not submissive women like women with short hair or no makeup. Men share their suspicion about who(singers, actors, authors, cartoonists, you name it) might be a feminist and come together to threaten, harass and stalk whoever it might be. They once had a voice actor fired complaining to the company that she is a feminist. No one is willing to risk being targeted by this group of men. So there had been this quiet but strong sentiment with no name until it was given one. But JUST BECAUSE THERE’S NO NAME TO IT, DOESN’T MEAN THAT I DOENS’T EXIST. And I don't think the name 4B movement perfectly matches what it really is. I’m not sure the correct definition of the movement in English, but the corresponding korean word for it implies that it should be an active or deliberate action taken to raise awareness for a cause and fight the system in the hope of changing something. In that sense, what Korean women are doing now is not 4B movement, it’s just 4B (sentiment). We don't want anything from men. All we want is OUT. No wonder many korean women haven’t heard the name “4B movement”. In a country where there’s very few coverage about women’s issue, how would you expect them to have heard the term coined by foreigners? But the phenomenon most certainly exists. The number speaks for itself. I’ve read some comments saying it seems too extreme, or culty, and I assure you, it's not. You will drive as long as the chances of getting a crash is not as high as you should be concerned. But what if 1 out of 2 drivers got in an accident? Would you drive? Men are just not worth risking my rights as a human-being and my life. Have you heard Mol-ka, which turns your everyday life into a porn? Do you know how many women are being killed by their intimate partners in Korea? I’m teaching in highschool, and boys whisper femi femi (as a curse word) giggling when I mention anything close to equality. Saying no to being a men’s punching bag is not extreme at all.
@duckyh9712
@duckyh9712 3 ай бұрын
Poor girl.the feminist’s got to you. Wanna know why those Korean men are afraid of other cultures getting intertwined with theirs? Look at how the United States has completely lost its morals and it’s spread to Western Europe. when gen Z hits their midlife crises these boss girls who didn’t get married and are washed up will absolutely crumble causing a huge problem. Wait and see. look at the stats the happiest woman is one that is married. Enjoy your country and your limited role as a women Because these American women will be drafted for war soon.
@natenate88
@natenate88 2 ай бұрын
What?
@Cornbread_et_moulins
@Cornbread_et_moulins Ай бұрын
I want to put 10000likes on this comment. It resumed perfectly the 4B thing going on in Korea.
@duckyh9712
@duckyh9712 Ай бұрын
lol typical American caring about stuff that Koreans don’t. They dont have a victim mindset over there
@yyyymmddhhmm
@yyyymmddhhmm Ай бұрын
cope
@pagilbondourbrian
@pagilbondourbrian 4 ай бұрын
ATTENTION TO ALL MODERN WOMEN; FALL IN LINE, OR BE REPLACED.
@sp-ff1pt
@sp-ff1pt 4 ай бұрын
i'm a korean american woman living in korea and the FIRST time i had heard of 4B movement was when an american friend asked me about it... and when i asked my korean friends about it no one had heard of it?? typically western media shit.
@edvaedan9161
@edvaedan9161 4 ай бұрын
It’s a lot of projection from westerners.
@albertoguardadocastaneda7354
@albertoguardadocastaneda7354 4 ай бұрын
Mainly American media, let’s be honest. They’re doing the same thing with Spanish by changing all the gendered words’ spelling and adding “X” to include all genders, but it doesn’t work and it only happens in the US
@simonniqoog
@simonniqoog 4 ай бұрын
Back when I lived in Korea in 2021 I heard about it though, and I did not use TikTok fb or instagram at the time.
@Aight2-sf5wk
@Aight2-sf5wk 4 ай бұрын
I've never heard of it too
@richardfranc8512
@richardfranc8512 4 ай бұрын
Western feminist media for you. Democracy =democrazy. Free speech is over rated. Western feminist run their mouth too much and need to learn to shut up!
@MionMikan
@MionMikan 4 ай бұрын
As someone who's lived here in Korea for a decade, this video hits the nail on the head exactly. The conversation around gender equality, feminism, and misogyny/misandry is not a 1:1 comparison to the west. Korea has it's own unique problems that has led to a divergence in the way people perceive this issue between westerners and Koreans. Western people trying to understand these very complex and deep seeded issues in Korea through their own lens can really cause misinterpretations of the public sentiment in Korea
@jeffjohnson5053
@jeffjohnson5053 4 ай бұрын
The whole world knows that south korea is a VERY MALE dominated country and culture. So there is no way you can try to escape this!! And yes, I have been to Japan, Taiwan, Hong kong, China, Vietnam, Phillippines, Thailand. They do not have a such male dominated culture as south korea. And yes, I am Asian myself. There are many problems with cultures like south korea. For example 160 people died in that alley with dance clubs, all your korean male party goers refused to let people out, and 160 of them died. This does NOT happen in any other Asian countries.
@youssafemonster
@youssafemonster 4 ай бұрын
@@jeffjohnson5053 160 people is not big number of 50 million Koren
@youssafemonster
@youssafemonster 4 ай бұрын
@@jeffjohnson5053 This does NOT happen in any other Asian countries yas 160 people is not big number of 50 million Koren
@Whyhandle888
@Whyhandle888 4 ай бұрын
​@@jeffjohnson5053I'm Asian!!!! Korea bad!!! I can say this because I'm Asian!!!! 😂😂😂😂😂
@user-Geordic
@user-Geordic 4 ай бұрын
@@jeffjohnson5053 모르면 입을 닫아. 凸 아는척 하지말고
@TheWaross
@TheWaross 4 ай бұрын
Americans trying not to think they're center of the universe challenge (impossible)
@R_Caine
@R_Caine 4 ай бұрын
They're regime lemmings.
@MK_ULTRA420
@MK_ULTRA420 4 ай бұрын
As an American, the universe is doomed if we're at the center of it, we'd probably Big Bang the place if we could.
@dapperdangerous-l9i
@dapperdangerous-l9i 4 ай бұрын
@@MK_ULTRA420 hahaha u aint lying g
@moarschtuff9233
@moarschtuff9233 4 ай бұрын
Leave it to Americans to sensationalize and amplify the most extreme interpretation of any school of thought. I get embarrassed about it every other day at this point.
@ZZ-oc2eb
@ZZ-oc2eb 4 ай бұрын
Seriously
@Jose04537
@Jose04537 4 ай бұрын
Sensationalism get clicks. There's also the problem described by Eric Hoffer: "A great cause begins as a movement, then becomes a business, and then degenerates into a racket"
@Needler13
@Needler13 4 ай бұрын
Blame Reddit and Twitter and tiktok. They are misandrist af but claim they aren't. They hate men to the point they actually want 4B to be the main thing happening in Korea when it isn't
@rondoe937
@rondoe937 4 ай бұрын
Leave it to the three letter agencies🕴🏽
@ibot2157
@ibot2157 4 ай бұрын
She clearly stated it wasn't mainly American
@ChrisTennis
@ChrisTennis 4 ай бұрын
I'm Korean American, read Korean news every single day, and never heard of this movement, sounds like manufactured
@whysosour935
@whysosour935 4 ай бұрын
i remember seeing soooo many photo of people parading with signs there i wonder how many was staged maybe to get people talking about korea again???
@GaserBeam-hi4ez
@GaserBeam-hi4ez 4 ай бұрын
This happens so often. Prime example , the protests in Israel. The very small amount of protesters doesn’t represent like 99% of Israelis. But Westerners esp Americans cling on to the small story to fit their desires
@jamesrawlins735
@jamesrawlins735 4 ай бұрын
It really is a very small movement, less than 5,000 women seem to belong to this movement. The movement gained traction because of the book Kim JiYoung, Born 1982 - first the head of the Justice Party gave President Moon a copy with the message to please embrace the book. You also had Red Velvet's Irene telling fans at a fan meet that she was a fan of the book (think RM and Sooyoung also said they liked the book). Male fans in Korea began attacking her, burning and cutting up her photo. I think the Escape the Corset and the Me Too movements in Korea also embraced the book (which sold over a million copies). I think it spawned this very small movement which is very hardcore about their beliefs and tried to be very visible whenever possible. It's not a manufactured movement, but it's simply a very small one that really hasn't grown past it's initial small base. From what I also understand, 4B often tries to claim a much larger membership number by including women identified with the Me Too and Escape the Corset movements (but aside from appreciating the book don't really see themselves as having anything in common). Put another way, just because goth and vampire culture look very similar and may get confused with each other, they aren't the same.
@gomdol-np2uy
@gomdol-np2uy 4 ай бұрын
I'm a young Korean woman myself living in Korea and I'm quite sure most women in my ages who are interested in what's going on in society are heard of 4B movement. Even though not many would say openly that they are supporters, it centainly represents how women of my generation percieves marrage, relationships and equiality
@GaserBeam-hi4ez
@GaserBeam-hi4ez 4 ай бұрын
@@gomdol-np2uy “young women interested in what’s going on in society” aka activists…the activists you know bc you are in activist, her point provenb
@Ainglish-qj5bb
@Ainglish-qj5bb 4 ай бұрын
That's quite the narrative the first woman is spinning. The low birthrate is NOT a feminist movement. It's a combination of low opportunity, long academic careers, financial depression, and many other factors.
@thathandsomedevil0828
@thathandsomedevil0828 4 ай бұрын
And feminism. Korea didn't have birth rate issues before feminism.
@bgos4727
@bgos4727 4 ай бұрын
Women not wanting to deal with men anymore is indeed part of it 😂😂 bfr
@Ainglish-qj5bb
@Ainglish-qj5bb 4 ай бұрын
@@bgos4727 No doubt, and vice versa. But there's no Korean "feminist movement" with numbers of women that matter, with the goal of denying men or putting them in their place. It's just not a thing. She's projecting her own hatred of men onto a population which she knows nothing about.
@edwardtimothy3581
@edwardtimothy3581 4 ай бұрын
​@@thathandsomedevil0828yep, but i would say it's mostly hypercapitalism
@edwardtimothy3581
@edwardtimothy3581 4 ай бұрын
​@@Ainglish-qj5bbTRUEEE. I wish there's more people like u on the internet
@susanooalarichard
@susanooalarichard 4 ай бұрын
My Japanese grandmother use to always send me cowboy clothes for my birthday and Christmas. Someone told her everyone where I live are cowboys. So, she thought I wanted to dress like one. No disrespect to her, and may she rest in peace, she made a similar mistake. Anyway, my focus on Korea is mostly supply chains and logistics, geopolitics, and music. Never heard of the "movement" prior to today. Watch a lot of Korean TV and movies. Tons of K-Pop and more on my playlists. Do I judge Korea on it? Nope. It'd be like watching a Western (Cowboy movie.) and thinking everyone in the US is a cowboy because the movies were popular at the time. Sure, there's still cowboys here to this day, they're rare and have been for a very long time. Anyway again, I'm waking up to this talk and my first through was that people really need to touch grass more. This stuff that gets talked about online isn't the real world.
@OTSunny.
@OTSunny. 4 ай бұрын
spot on
@trenchcoatdoggo5185
@trenchcoatdoggo5185 4 ай бұрын
Did your grandmother gift you cowboy shoes with the spurs that jingle jangle jingle?
@NB-lx6gz
@NB-lx6gz 4 ай бұрын
Your grandma was adorable tho ❤
@amalgam777
@amalgam777 4 ай бұрын
That's really funny and wholesome God bless sweet grandmas 😊
@yurigansmith
@yurigansmith 4 ай бұрын
Your grandma's efforts to make you fit in appropriately into your new home, the wild wild west with its great plains and endless prairies, are sweet though. Yeehaw!!!
@lloydmcneill-xm4oh
@lloydmcneill-xm4oh 4 ай бұрын
Fork Rode microphone combo is undefeated
@midnightdreams8136
@midnightdreams8136 4 ай бұрын
Lol 😂😂 I wonder how that happened to be. 😅😅 So random!
@eleonn
@eleonn 4 ай бұрын
I thought the same!😂
@D0P1C3
@D0P1C3 4 ай бұрын
W😄
@MrAwombat
@MrAwombat 4 ай бұрын
Didn't even notice till i read this comment 😂
@vincent67239
@vincent67239 4 ай бұрын
I had to keep telling myself to stop focusing on the fork lol
@genuinetallguy6318
@genuinetallguy6318 4 ай бұрын
Very well done Anna. Common sense still lives in the majority of people.
@JoeV1
@JoeV1 4 ай бұрын
But the number is declining, I think.
@edwardtimothy3581
@edwardtimothy3581 4 ай бұрын
​@@JoeV1True. It's concerning
@성이름-u8p9g
@성이름-u8p9g Ай бұрын
There is no such thing as femicide. Because I have never experienced it. (I wrote a poem.) She is lying. Let me give you the facts. Young men's political inclination: Conservative (60-70%), young women's political inclination: Liberal (60-70%) Do young women know the term 4b? : More people don't. So do young women refuse to date men because of their misogyny? : Very often. Women in their 20s, and even teenagers, have a stronger tendency to do so. Can a KZbinr who hates men survive in Korea? : Absolutely not. KZbinrs who hate men or criticize misogyny are buried. On the other hand, can a KZbinr who hates women or criticizes feminists survive? : They have over 1.2 million subscribers and are influential enough to operate in the open. Well, this is the reality of Korea. There is a stark difference in the ideology of young men and women, so it is inevitable that many women reject men. The KZbinr in this video is lying. She is weak to the strong and strong to the weak. She knows that if she criticizes misogynists here, she will be attacked by Korean men. She does not mention the differences in the tendencies of young Korean men and women at all.
@exorr81
@exorr81 4 ай бұрын
Birthrates are going down pretty much everywhere in 1st world countries and not just in korea. This will get much worse before it can even get better.
@brandibadgett2587
@brandibadgett2587 3 ай бұрын
It is a demographic winter and no one is thinking about the consequences of not procreating.
@4BGlobalMovement
@4BGlobalMovement 3 ай бұрын
@@brandibadgett2587 Oh, we definitely are thinking about it and are willing to let the human race go extinct before being used and abused anymore!
@wandah9468
@wandah9468 3 ай бұрын
​@@brandibadgett2587well the men are!😂
@mariak2888-j5
@mariak2888-j5 3 ай бұрын
They're not. ​@@wandah9468
@Sarah-kv3qs
@Sarah-kv3qs 4 күн бұрын
@@brandibadgett2587 They know the consequences...They just don't care if they aren't finding someone they would willingly raise a child with
@noahcharles2571
@noahcharles2571 4 ай бұрын
So basically the funny part is that everybody's talking about a Korean 4b movement except people in Korea
@Ainglish-qj5bb
@Ainglish-qj5bb 4 ай бұрын
Oh SOMEONE is talking about it-- probably about half a dozen gyopo lesbians in a cafe in Itaewon. If you live in Korea, you know what I'm talking about. Guess what tiny subpopulation of Koreans this video maker most likely has connections to?
@devilslayer3548
@devilslayer3548 3 ай бұрын
Who everyone
@Chaosmite
@Chaosmite 3 ай бұрын
It’s kind of like westerners do not understand easterner
@XC-Z-cv8qw
@XC-Z-cv8qw 3 ай бұрын
Censored lol. Like how many other things are censored in Korea
@Ainglish-qj5bb
@Ainglish-qj5bb 3 ай бұрын
@@XC-Z-cv8qw You're full of it. Very little is censored in Korea, except girls' naughty bits in dirty movies. Certainly, the crazies from both sides of the political spectrum can, and do, express themselves, and very vocally. Maybe you're thinking of North Korea?
@excripto1
@excripto1 4 ай бұрын
It’s only a small percentage of women who are actively involved in this movement and it seems to be more popular among Western women on TikTok than it is in Korea, because most women never heard of 4B.
@lauralemon4890
@lauralemon4890 4 ай бұрын
Women like that are a very small group in all societies, especially in societies like South Korea. It takes a lot of self-respect and self-preservation instinct to do that.
@51844mj
@51844mj 4 ай бұрын
A lot of Korean women are doing it silently. They will not say it publicly. Cause they will be physically abused
@bear8190
@bear8190 4 ай бұрын
​@@lauralemon4890"self-respect"
@sgtmian
@sgtmian 4 ай бұрын
@@bear8190 self respect, no quotation marks.
@bear8190
@bear8190 4 ай бұрын
@@sgtmian It takes a lot of "self respect" to be a radical misandrist
@sharaineroberts8537
@sharaineroberts8537 4 ай бұрын
As a black woman who lives in the US. I understand your frustration. There are many people who "speak about situations" that are exaggerated or taken out of context. Also, as you mentioned, the pay gap, abuse of power, and other patriotic issues happen around the world. As someone already said in the comments. People feel too comfortable talking about things without fact-checking and trying to cancel anyone who doesn't agree. Whatever happened to learning about the facts? That's just my opinion.
@kristinesharp6286
@kristinesharp6286 4 ай бұрын
25 years ago I was working in Illinois and CNN or NYT put out an article about pay gap and gender in the U.S.. They listed several fields where women make more than men. Usually female dominated fields. Usually fields that require advanced degrees. This is not Afghanistan where girls can’t attend school even when minors. Women don’t need permission to get a job like Iran. At the end of the day it does not matter who makes more or less but if one makes enough. I watched Kdramas all the time and the wealth gap is perplexing and confusing to me living in Midwest USA. For example everything seems relative. An officer worker of four years lives in a rooftop apartment and saved 100K USD in 4 years being frugal. His senior who worked 9 years in a perfectly decent renovated villa who put down 50K USD as key money and pays 200 USD monthly rent. But he is ‘poor’ and does not have enough money. His peers referred to him as poor. He was perfectly fine growing up until others voiced he was poor cause of the size of the apartment and likely it was not a high rise. So he will not marry and is putting off dating and spending money until he buys a big apartment. Which may be never if his stock choices bad or the market turns. In the U.S. I could pay a lot more for a house but I also could pay a lot less than I do. No one cares if I’m in a condo, townhome, single family, McMansion.
@Behinddarkness86
@Behinddarkness86 4 ай бұрын
Are you kidding? That isn’t opinion. You are speaking facts. The most arrogant person on any topic is usually the most ignorant on said topic. The most intelligent people I know figured out that they actually know very little. This is the catch 22 though. The most intelligent among us don’t believe that they have all the answers but the least educated are loud and pushy and since most humans respond to who is loudest is how humanity consistently ends up with bad leadership.
@kristinesharp6286
@kristinesharp6286 4 ай бұрын
@@Behinddarkness86 who are you talking to?
@Behinddarkness86
@Behinddarkness86 4 ай бұрын
@@kristinesharp6286 The woman who wrote the original post.
@TT09B5
@TT09B5 4 ай бұрын
Fact is, the pay gap doesn't exist in the USA.
@fisaor
@fisaor 19 күн бұрын
7:04 보면 제목에는 국내 주요 데이팅앱 트래픽 및 이용자 성비라고 되어있죠. 원본 통계 찾아보면 이용자 성비는 극단적으로 남초에요. 근데 그러면 여성들이 데이트에 적극적이라는 Anna Lee의 개인적인 주장에 위배되니까 그 부분만 자르고 이용자 수만 가져왔어요ㅋㅋ
@Purwapada
@Purwapada 4 ай бұрын
Well done Anna, They are probably angry because you dismantled their lies with facts. It's very honourable to speak truth
@lauralemon4890
@lauralemon4890 4 ай бұрын
actually they are angry because they liked to believe that women somewhere had a backbone.
@alpacacomentadora413
@alpacacomentadora413 4 ай бұрын
The low fertility rate of korea is not a lie
@Aight2-sf5wk
@Aight2-sf5wk 4 ай бұрын
​@@alpacacomentadora413Why are the countries with the highest birth rates the ones with the highest gender inequality?
@bored78612
@bored78612 4 ай бұрын
@@alpacacomentadora413 But the reasons behind it being 4B is a lie. Just go to Korea and you will see it yourself.
@李珊-f2r
@李珊-f2r 4 ай бұрын
@@Aight2-sf5wk nah that’s Belgium !!!!
@U-zf2jp
@U-zf2jp Ай бұрын
According to the entire dating app statistics, 96% of Korean Tinder users are male. Only 4% are female
@lecinemong
@lecinemong 20 күн бұрын
You're ignoring other dating apps that have comparable or near identical popularity to Tinder, which also have much better male/female user ratios. Glam: 87% male | 12.4% female Hello Talk: 15.4% male | 84.6% female Yeoboya: 68% male | 32% female Datalk: 66.7% male | 33.3% female And the global average on Tinder is 75% male | 25% female
@charlesdole
@charlesdole 19 күн бұрын
So not that different from other countries?
@dodo-j7s
@dodo-j7s 19 күн бұрын
​@@charlesdole96% is a very extreme number, even compared to other countries, right?
@charlesdole
@charlesdole 19 күн бұрын
@@dodo-j7s yeah, well you said you don't speak to guys earlier? might as well delete this comment lol. go on.
@briankim2903
@briankim2903 17 күн бұрын
Um koreans have their own apps which are geared for Koreans meeting Koreans.​ tinder has a bad reputation and stigma in Korea as being altrashy.. and in comparison to Korean apps has the lowest amount of Korean users overall.. m barely any koreans use it at all in comparison to the overall population .. and definitely not any normal sane korean looking for normal sane Koreans are on there... the men on there are using it to meet foreign kpop koreaboo women who are all over it.... not a good comparison or stat point. @dodo-j7s
@Realshit-l2q
@Realshit-l2q 14 күн бұрын
데이팅 앱 저거 남자비율이 월등히 높은데 그거만 자른거 봐 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
@michellemckinney4678
@michellemckinney4678 4 ай бұрын
I was waiting for this video! Glad you pushed back with facts and disputed this 4B claim. Appreciate your insight from the Korean perspective. Off topic but necessary, need a new apartment tour, please…if that’s natural light, it’s amazing.
@kibagichi
@kibagichi 4 ай бұрын
I didn't notice until almost 20 min in that she's using a fork to hold the mic up XD. Nice video.
@xjmmjbnqfstjdijoj2044
@xjmmjbnqfstjdijoj2044 4 ай бұрын
The same sort of skewed and sensationalized misinformation is also very common when it comes to social problems concerning Japan... it's truly irritating
@eagle162
@eagle162 4 ай бұрын
That really has become common in recent years, so much misinformation regarding Japan, I guess Korea is the next country that's going to receive that.
@sadasasdas8467
@sadasasdas8467 4 ай бұрын
This is a great point. I believe both Korea & Japan are in the same boat..
@masatoizumi926
@masatoizumi926 4 ай бұрын
Yeah that’s the price of being the cool kids
@gotakazawa408
@gotakazawa408 4 ай бұрын
In my personal opinion, Japanese culture is significantly different from Western culture and, with a few exceptions, is unfortunately not well understood. Ironically, this lack of understanding is one of the reasons why Japan has become such a popular tourist destination recently.
@yurigansmith
@yurigansmith 2 ай бұрын
Don't forget China, the new "Evil Empire" - viciously unwilling to submit to the West's benevolent global hegemony.
@JJJ-cj9gd
@JJJ-cj9gd Ай бұрын
Maybe you and your bubble is too old and this is going on 20s. Your experience is so opposite to my bubble and even they call them selves as a non-feminist, even anti-feminist, most of 20s don’t want to get married nor in the relationship. You sound like my parents.. lol
@fkfkfkl09505
@fkfkfkl09505 Ай бұрын
Oh yeah, she’s a pick me who’s using this uptick in Korean popularity in the mainstream to make money. “It’s not an issue” okay now they’re reporting THOUSANDS of men spreading AI porn not to mention the COUNTLESS sex crimes that happen in that country. Yeah…burn down that birth rate idc!
@JaGUnit
@JaGUnit Ай бұрын
@@fkfkfkl09505 First it was only a small amount only you guys are lying about the actual amount.
@JaGUnit
@JaGUnit Ай бұрын
Yet Korean marriage rose this Q2 odd like it care about what rando online think.
@Defixio.
@Defixio. 4 ай бұрын
its ultra common for social media, corpo media, and indie media to VASTLY over estimate the size or impact of subcultures and political movement. they point at something a group is doing, then inflate their impact on larger metrics that are...very complex.
@yurigansmith
@yurigansmith 4 ай бұрын
And yet so many people will take it for face value. Except for the seldom case that one's own immediate environment becomes the subject of an unhinged narrative. Then suddenly it's "wtf??".
@gotakazawa408
@gotakazawa408 4 ай бұрын
In theory, easier access to information should contribute to its accuracy. However, unfortunately, the advancement of technology and the flood of information seem to be creating new problems.
@sukbeomkim6393
@sukbeomkim6393 2 ай бұрын
I don't understand why the 4B movement is gaining popularity in other countries.. The low birthrate in South Korea is primarily due to the population density in the capital and the extremely high housing prices. And the meaning of "feminism" in South Korea differs from its interpretation in other countries. In SK, feminism is often perceived negatively and associated with social outcasts rather than as a movement advocating for women's rights. Recently, there was a car accident that resulted in the deaths of about nine men. The group identifying themselves as feminists made insensitive comments such as "the day of bowling," "good die," and "the party time of dead men." (kzbin.info/www/bejne/eGTEk5uViZqiadE) This behavior is far from advocating for human rights and equality. Ordinary people in South Korea are just busy with their daily lives. There is no time to engage in the pointless gender wars happening online.
@fisaor
@fisaor 2 ай бұрын
석범아 토마토 주스라고 조롱한 사람이 20대 남자인건 왜 쏙 빼놔?
@앗-b9y
@앗-b9y 2 ай бұрын
한국의 ㅈ같은 성차별은 쏙 빼놓고 말하네. 날조하지 마라
@Chusssiyz7678
@Chusssiyz7678 Ай бұрын
위에 두분은 참….
@HongBlues
@HongBlues Ай бұрын
위에 2명 너네같은 애들 땜에 저런 말도 안되는 말들이 퍼진거잖아...
@고고공-p3o
@고고공-p3o 3 ай бұрын
South Korean here!! (한국 사람이에요!!) I can’t believe that western people believe that Korea’s low rate birth problems caused by 4B movements.... It’s because high house price and we want to get a better and better job that leads excessive competition. In korea, Lots of People believe we have to buy house first before marriage, that we believe it’s our responsibilities to partner and future children to provide them stable life. Usually it regarded as man’s duty for your partner and as father. (of course this kind of stereotypes are changing because of too much house price, but we still tend to follow this stereotypes as woman and as man also..). In east north asia like Korea and Japan, there are Confucianism culture that we tend to expect more responsibility to men, which means Japan was the first country have low rate of birth problem and then, South Korea, and even China is facing now with economic growth that leads high house price. And that kind of man’s responsibility things make Korean men (I think Japan too) work harder, spend more time at work, and force to men major in technology, engineering, Economics and not Arts or Liberal Arts even they wanted to, so culturally it leads Gender Wage-Differentials. So anyway, when we earn enough money to buy house where outside of Seoul City, but your partner age is.... hard to have baby so many people give up to have baby after lot of efforts. And if you failed to buy house? It will be hard to get married. Because as I said, in our culture men expected to take responsibility and women expected to respect men’s responsibility and efforts, these kind of expectations easily lead them get married. I can say that few years ago there was a big social issues about radical feminists in South Korea. Because when you want to join feminist group you have to burn all your father or brother's pictures or take a photo that you put a knife on father or brothers neck when they sleep as rituals. Is it acceptable in western world??? It's hard to even imagine in east north Asia like Korea and Japan. And they claimed that only women are superior than men and only victims (I can not even understand how this logic works..) so they make protests that trans-genders(Fake woman, they say), Muslims and east south Asian who have brown skin have not to permitted in korea society to prevent potential sexual crimes. They just act like fascist and detest male at the same time ... OMG..... (But it's very very very small population of korean women) These kind of women were claiming 4B movements maybe 4 years ago. So, now in South Korea, if you claim 4B movements in public or act like them in daily life you won't be allowed to jobs or social relationship except radical feminists group. And lot of feminist groups were dismantled all around universities by their votes and campaigns. And NOW IN 2024 western feminists are following 4B movements???? Wow..... 진짜 한 번이라도 한국에 와봤거나 한국에 살고 있는 사람이랑 한 번이라도 대화를 해봤는지 모르겠네요. (It means, Are they really even ever been to South Korea or talked to native korean who actually living in here)
@anastasyavie6236
@anastasyavie6236 2 ай бұрын
sometimes it sounds like they don't want to listen to Asian women whenever it's against their agenda
@Gift-i539
@Gift-i539 6 күн бұрын
As a Korean woman, Koreans have never heard '4B' and the perception of radical feminists in Korea is not good Moreover, there is also a perception that radical feminists do not have good looks. That's why radical feminism is only on the internet Misogyny also has a loser image I want to tell you guys that radical feminism and misogyny only exist anonymous online. Because these radical people are considered not to have good looks, it is difficult to meet them outside of the online world.
@user-ci7nx6pr2o
@user-ci7nx6pr2o 20 күн бұрын
한국인도 아닌 사람들이 4b는 허상이다 존재하지않는다 자긴 들어본적 없다 입모으는 꼴이란
@fisaor
@fisaor 19 күн бұрын
7:04 보면 제목에는 국내 주요 데이팅앱 트래픽 및 이용자 성비라고 되어있죠. 원본 통계 찾아보면 이용자 성비는 극단적으로 남초에요. 근데 그러면 여성들이 데이트에 적극적이라는 Anna Lee의 개인적인 주장에 위배되니까 그 부분만 자르고 이용자 수만 가져왔어요ㅋㅋ
@kimm9775
@kimm9775 19 күн бұрын
코리안 아메리칸 이런애들 진짜 꼭지돌게함 알지도 못하면서 한국에 아는척임 검머외들이 진짜
@dbddycotmxkzld
@dbddycotmxkzld 2 ай бұрын
이런 운동이 있는지도 몰랐음 ㅋㅋㅋ
@Cornbread_et_moulins
@Cornbread_et_moulins Ай бұрын
운동이라기보다는 그냥 사회가 나아가는 방향인듯 남자들이 하고 지랄을 하니까
@SNSK231
@SNSK231 2 ай бұрын
Here are the gender equality rankings based on the 2019 UN Gender Inequality Index(GII). This index evaluates three areas: reproductive health, empowerment, and labor participation. Specifically, it measures maternal mortality rates, adolescent birth rates, female parliamentary representation, secondary education rates, and economic participation. The index ranges from 0 (complete equality) to 1 (complete inequality), providing an assessment of the absolute progress in women's rights. For instance, maternal mortality reflects the state of healthcare for women, while adolescent birth rates indicate the advancement of sex education. Here are the rankings: 1. Switzerland - 0.025 2. Norway - 0.038 3. Finland - 0.039 4. Netherlands - 0.043 5. Denmark - 0.043 6. Sweden - 0.045 7. Belgium - 0.045 8. South Korea - 0.047 9. France - 0.049 10. Iceland - 0.058 11. Slovenia - 0.063 12. Taiwan - 0.064 13. Luxembourg - 0.065 14. Singapore - 0.065 15. Austria - 0.069 16. Italy - 0.069 17. Spain - 0.070 18. Japan - 0.075 19. Portugal - 0.079 20. Canada - 0.080 21. Germany - 0.084 22. Cyprus - 0.086 23. Estonia - 0.086 24. Ireland - 0.093 25. New Zealand - 0.094 26. Australia - 0.097 27. United Kingdom - 0.109 28. Montenegro - 0.109 29. Poland - 0.115 30. Greece - 0.116 31. Croatia - 0.116 32. United Arab Emirates - 0.118 33. Belarus - 0.118 34. Israel - 0.123 35. Lithuania - 0.124 36. Serbia - 0.132 37. Czech Republic - 0.136 38. North Macedonia - 0.143 39. Bosnia and Herzegovina - 0.149 40. China - 0.168 41. Malta - 0.175 42. Latvia - 0.176 43. Albania - 0.181 44. Qatar - 0.185 45. Kazakhstan - 0.190 46. Slovakia - 0.191 47. United States - 0.204 48. Moldova - 0.204 49. Bulgaria - 0.206 50. Bahrain - 0.212 51. Russia - 0.225
@SNSK231
@SNSK231 2 ай бұрын
The Gender Gap Index (GGI) measures the relative differences between men and women, meaning that even if women's overall status is high, if they fall behind men, the GGI and its ranking can be low. This design allows the GGI to compare gender gaps without considering the socioeconomic level of each country. For example, a developed country with high overall economic participation but significant gender differences may rank lower than a less developed country where both men and women participate at similar, albeit low, rates. Countries like Rwanda or the Philippines, where social norms mandate women to engage in work equally to men, can achieve high scores despite their lower economic conditions. Similarly, countries like Sweden, with strong egalitarian views, tend to score high because men and women perform similar jobs. Rwanda scores high on the GGI due to its emphasis on female participation in politics and the economy, aligning with its traditions. However, other gender inequality issues, like domestic violence, still exist. Western interpretations may misread these scores, thinking they reflect progressive gender policies, while similar situations have different outcomes, such as post-war Serbia becoming more patriarchal. Contrasts are evident in Saudi Arabia, a wealthy nation with significant gender disparities, and Korea, which had gender-equal customs in the Goryeo era but shifted towards male dominance in modern times. Despite Korea's progressive stance on women's education and suffrage compared to some Western countries, cultural practices influenced by Confucianism, which separates domestic and external roles, create discrepancies in Western gender equality views. Cultural differences further manifest in perceptions of physical labor. Koreans may find it strange to see women performing heavy labor or operating machinery, a common sight in Western countries during wartime. This cultural divide is apparent when comparing gender roles in relationships; for example, Korean women dating Swedish men may struggle with the expectation of equal division of labor. GGI rankings often favor countries with gender norms resembling those in Europe and America, thus not accurately reflecting gender equality in diverse cultural contexts. These rankings cannot reliably indicate how well women's rights are upheld in a mix of developed, developing, and underdeveloped countries. Moreover, the GGI is frequently conflated with broader terms like gender equality index or gender equality rankings, but it is distinct from indices like the Gender Inequality Index (GII). The GGI measures the average gender gap across all ages, not gender equality. Gender equality indices are relative; for instance, if men score 10 and women 9, the gender gap is seen as less than 10%, but this does not mean the overall score is high. A notable disparity in Korea is the university enrollment rates between men and women. Men's rates can exceed 100% due to military service interruptions and subsequent re-enrollments. Additionally, 80% of graduates from lucrative engineering fields in Korea are men, largely because women tend to avoid science tracks in high school due to the high level of mathematical difficulty. In conclusion, while the GGI provides insights into gender gaps, it does not fully account for cultural, societal, and structural differences that influence gender equality across nations.
@SNSK231
@SNSK231 2 ай бұрын
In Korea, there exists the Equal Employment Opportunity Law for both genders. According to this law, companies cannot hire discriminatively based on gender. However, despite its name, some criticize that there are no clauses specifically protecting men. I agree with the necessity of this law, but it seems there is room for improvement. Positive example of this law in action: An example would be the 'KB Kookmin Bank gender discrimination in hiring and corruption incident'. KB Kookmin Bank intentionally favored men, resulting in penalties under this law. Negative example where this law did not positively impact: An example would be the controversy over the Game Rating and Administration Committee's biased hiring towards women with career gaps and disabled individuals. They rigidly excluded men by making career gaps and disability prerequisites for monitoring team recruitment, receiving only written warnings from the Ministry of Employment and Labor, as legal enforcement is not feasible and G.R.A.C. certainly ignored it and did not amend their qualifications requirements. Eventually, this incident pointed out that this law has room for improvement.
@SNSK231
@SNSK231 2 ай бұрын
In Korea, in cases of divorce, parents must agree on matters regarding the custody of their children, or if they cannot agree, the family court will decide on custody matters either at its own discretion or upon request by the parties (Civil Code, Article 837, Paragraphs 1, 2, and 4). 1. Determination of custody 2. Burden of child-rearing costs 3. Exercise of visitation rights and methods thereof 1. For children aged 0 to 6: - Father has custody rights: 8.6% - Mother has custody rights: 91.4% 2. For children in elementary school (age 7 to 12): - Father has custody rights: 18.5% - Mother has custody rights: 81.5% 3. For children in middle school or older (age 13 and above): - Father has custody rights: 30.4% - Mother has custody rights: 69.6% Additionally, if children are primarily raised by their mother after divorce in Korea, they can change their surname to their mother's surname if they wish to do so.. (Ps.The father is usually required to provide child support monthly.)
@SNSK231
@SNSK231 2 ай бұрын
According to the 2013 police crime statistics, there were 5,753 cases of R, including both attempts and completions, reported in South Korea. In the same period, the Ministry of Gender Equality and Family conducted a nationwide survey on sexual violence, estimating that 32,500 women, or 0.13% of the total female population, were victims of R or attempted R in 2013. This implies a reporting rate of approximately 18%. In South Korea, the conviction rate for sexual crimes is over 90%. In contrast, Germany's conviction rate is around 8%, and Sweden's is about 23%, significantly lower than South Korea's standards. According to the '2022 Judicial Yearbook' published by the Court Administration Office of Korea in September last year, there were 5,161 cases filed under the 'Act on Special Cases Concerning the Punishment of Sexual Crimes' in 2021. Of these, 5,018 cases (97.2%) were processed. Excluding 55 cases referred to the juvenile division and 290 other cases, there were 4,673 sexual crime cases (90.5%) that reached a first-instance verdict. Among these first-instance verdicts, only 124 cases (2.7%) resulted in acquittals. When adding suspended sentences (47 cases), sentence exemptions (3 cases), and dismissals (2 cases), the total percentage is just 3.8%. Conversely, the conviction rate, including imprisonment, fines, and suspended sentences, stands at approximately 96.3%. -------- According to the 2013 police crime statistics, there were 5,753 cases of R, including both attempts and completions, reported in South Korea. In the same period, the Ministry of Gender Equality and Family conducted a nationwide survey on sexual violence, estimating that 32,500 women, or 0.13% of the total female population, were victims of R or attempted R in 2013. This implies a reporting rate of approximately 18%. In South Korea, the conviction rate for sexual crimes is over 90%. In contrast, Germany's conviction rate is around 8%, and Sweden's is about 23%, significantly lower than South Korea's standards. According to the '2022 Judicial Yearbook' published by the Court Administration Office of Korea in September last year, there were 5,161 cases filed under the 'Act on Special Cases Concerning the Punishment of Sexual Crimes' in 2021. Of these, 5,018 cases (97.2%) were processed. Excluding 55 cases referred to the juvenile division and 290 other cases, there were 4,673 sexual crime cases (90.5%) that reached a first-instance verdict. Among these first-instance verdicts, only 124 cases (2.7%) resulted in acquittals. When adding suspended sentences (47 cases), sentence exemptions (3 cases), and dismissals (2 cases), the total percentage is just 3.8%. Conversely, the conviction rate, including imprisonment, fines, and suspended sentences, stands at approximately 96.3%.
@SNSK231
@SNSK231 2 ай бұрын
In the United States, the reporting rate for R is about 16%, which is very low, and only a small number of perpetrators are punished, drawing significant criticism. According to RAINN, only 5.7% of R incidents lead to an arrest, just 1.1% of incidents are referred to a prosecutor, and only 0.7% result in a felony conviction. Even fewer, 0.6% of incidents lead to incarceration. This is despite false accusations accounting for only 2-8% of reported SA, according to WVFRIS. “In particular, child SA can go on for months or even years before they tell someone,” said Nikki Godfrey, Assistant State Coordinator for WVFRIS. “And the victim may be threatened or coerced to keep this secret.” - In Sweden, according to Brå in 2013, it is likely that as many as 80% of all R cases are not reported. This was confirmed in a 2014 study on violence against women funded by the Swedish government and the Crime Victim Compensation and Support Authority. Comparatively, a 2007 British Government report estimated that between 75 and 95% of R cases are not reported in the United Kingdom. In 2009, Amnesty International published a report on R in the Nordic countries, criticizing the low conviction rates in Sweden. Amnesty cited estimates from Brå of around 30,000 R incidents, with less than 13% of the 3,535 reported R crimes resulting in a decision to start legal proceedings, and only 216 convictions in 2007, using the word "impunity" to describe the situation. The number of convictions remained relatively unchanged from 2005 to 2014, with approximately 190 convictions on average each year. In 2015, there were 176 convictions for R and aggravated R in Sweden. The total number of convictions for sexual offenses, including R and other crimes such as buying sexual services, was 1,160. The low conviction rate could be explained by the reduced legal distinction between R and consensual intercourse, leading to greater challenges for the prosecution to prove its case, according to Petter Asp, Professor of Criminal Law at Stockholm University. ------ In the United States, the reporting rate for R is about 16%, which is very low, and only a small number of perpetrators are punished, drawing significant criticism. According to RAINN, only 5.7% of R incidents lead to an arrest, just 1.1% of incidents are referred to a prosecutor, and only 0.7% result in a felony conviction. Even fewer, 0.6% of incidents lead to incarceration. This is despite false accusations accounting for only 2-8% of reported SA, according to WVFRIS. "In particular, child SA can go on for months or even years before they tell someone," said Nikki Godfrey, Assistant State Coordinator for WVFRIS. "And the victim may be threatened or coerced to keep this secret." In Sweden, according to Brå in 2013, it is likely that as many as 80% of all R cases are not reported. This was confirmed in a 2014 study on violence against women funded by the Swedish government and the Crime Victim Compensation and Support Authority. Comparatively, a 2007 British Government report estimated that between 75 and 95% of R cases are not reported in the United Kingdom. In 2009, Amnesty International published a report on R in the Nordic countries, criticizing the low conviction rates in Sweden. Amnesty cited estimates from Brå of around 30,000 R incidents, with less than 13% of the 3,535 reported R crimes resulting in a decision to start legal proceedings, and only 216 convictions in 2007, using the word "impunity" to describe the situation. The number of convictions remained relatively unchanged from 2005 to 2014, with approximately 190 convictions on average each year. In 2015, there were 176 convictions for R and aggravated R in Sweden. The total number of convictions for sexual offenses, including R and other crimes such as buying sexual services, was 1,160. The low conviction rate could be explained by the reduced legal distinction between R and consensual intercourse, leading to greater challenges for the prosecution to prove its case, according to Petter Asp, Professor of Criminal Law at Stockholm University.
@allisonB123
@allisonB123 4 ай бұрын
I love how logical, sensible, and down to earth you are Anna (and also intelligent, of course). Thank you for the (very well researched) update 🙏🌺❤️
@Tobi-ku5ch
@Tobi-ku5ch 4 ай бұрын
Exactly what I was going to write! So much common sense!
@lilgoldenlotus
@lilgoldenlotus 3 ай бұрын
I am so proud of you. You are very good . I thanks you for telling the true.
@Aight2-sf5wk
@Aight2-sf5wk 2 ай бұрын
I want to talk about the percentage of women who never have kids in different countries. South Korea has the lowest birth rate in the world at 0.72, but Japan has the most women who never have children. Women who reach 50 without having kids are called "lifelong childless." Last month, the OECD said 28.3% of Japanese women born in 1975 were childless by age 49. This is the highest rate among OECD countries, where the average is 16.2%. So, about 1 in 3.5 Japanese women never has a child. Usually, developing countries have more births and fewer childless women than developed countries. This means Japan likely has the highest rate of childless women in the world. After Japan, Spain (23.9%) and Italy (22.5%) have the next highest rates of lifelong childlessness. South Korea (12.9%) is seventh, behind Germany (4th), France (5th), and the UK (6th), but still less than half of Japan's rate. The difference between South Korea and Japan shows that even though South Korea has a lower birth rate, more South Korean women have at least one child compared to Japan. This is because more Japanese families have multiple kids. Willem Adema, an OECD economist, says, "In South Korea, the cost of raising kids is so high that many families only have one child, while in Japan, families often have 2-3 kids." In summary, Japan's higher birth rate compared to South Korea is due to more families with multiple kids. But, Japan also has a much higher percentage of women who never have children compared to South Korea.
@allisonB123
@allisonB123 2 ай бұрын
@@Aight2-sf5wk great comment and very interesting information - I don’t want to spend my entire life never knowing what it is to be a mother, so if I am able to, I would like at least one kid, preferably two (so they won’t be alone after I’m gone). Thank you 🌺❤️
@성이름-u8p9g
@성이름-u8p9g Ай бұрын
Don't be fooled, she's lying. It's scientifically proven that young Korean women reject men. In particular, young Korean men and women are on opposite sides of the political spectrum and ideology. Men are far-right, women are liberal. This is also shown in surveys. In the world, Korea is probably the only country where gender differences are this big.
@dodo-j7s
@dodo-j7s 19 күн бұрын
I'm a Korean woman and I do 4B. I enjoyed your video, but there are some things that are wrong. I'd like to point out a few things. 1. There were feminists in Korea even before Megalia. It was only in 2007 that the "호주제", where only men are the owners of the family register and women are ignored, was abolished in Korea. It was thanks to the efforts of many feminists. At that time, feminists were attacked by Korean men as "feminazi" even though there was no mirroring or so-called aggression towards men. In other words, the image of feminists in Korea was not good even before Megalia. 2. People gather with like-minded people. You say there are no 4B practitioners around you, but there are many around me. This is why we shouldn't trust our own experiences and should keep an eye on statistics. It is clear that "non-marriage" has become an option among women. Statistics show that at any given time, at least 30% of women say they will never get married. There are economic reasons for this, but there are also patriarchal cultural factors. 3. Maybe you and I are too old for this topic, but the younger girls don't feel the need to get married. I did a survey in a high school and 9 out of 10 girls said "I don't have to get married." This is a far cry from our generation. I had the opportunity to talk to a girl younger than me, and when I explained the 4Bs to her, she said, "I didn't know the word, but I was already doing this." She said her friends were doing the same. They already know that it's not easy for women to get married in a country that has one of the lowest rates of housework.
@sadasasdas8467
@sadasasdas8467 17 күн бұрын
Except all the data shows the economics and cost of living is what is driving the average marriage rate in to the 30's, not feminism or gender conflict or discrimination. You are just inserting personal opinion here unfortunately..
@dodo-j7s
@dodo-j7s 17 күн бұрын
@@sadasasdas8467 According to a survey conducted by the Korea Population, Health and Welfare Association in June 2020 on 1,000 unmarried men and women in their 30s on the reasons for remaining single, women ranked first and second respectively as “because I thought I would be happier living alone (25.3%)” and “because of the patriarchal system and gender inequality culture (24.7%).” On the other hand, men answered most often as “because I thought it would be realistically difficult to meet the conditions for marriage (51.1%).” This suggests that there are differences in the reasons and patterns of choosing to remain single depending on gender.
@dandoodle6710
@dandoodle6710 17 күн бұрын
@@dodo-j7s1. ​​You should mention that the survey was asking if the subjects prefer to be "unmarried" not being "single". That's not an accurate translation. 2. The survey says that 30% of the participant women and 18.8% of men do not want to marry. The responses you wrote were within those percentages. Granted the study is accurate, the women who are actively rejecting marriage due to political reasons(aka patriarchy and what not) is less than 8%. That would be even less in the scope of the entire population.
@dandoodle6710
@dandoodle6710 17 күн бұрын
@@dodo-j7sconclusively the example survey is a stretch to validate 4B.
@sadasasdas8467
@sadasasdas8467 17 күн бұрын
@@dodo-j7s Incorrect, the main reasons for delaying marriage into the 30's are all economics related. Gender conflicts and/or discrimination is
@오무라이스-x9n
@오무라이스-x9n 3 ай бұрын
아잇 기분이다 한남 다 가지세요😊😊 나중에 외국인이랑 결혼하기만 해바~~😂
@thierrytecumseh734
@thierrytecumseh734 2 ай бұрын
못생기고 비뚤어진 너는 한남 못만나는 너랑 다르게 이분은 예쁘시고 사상도 건전하니 좋은 남자 잘 만날거야~
@user-ci7nx6pr2o
@user-ci7nx6pr2o 20 күн бұрын
ㅋㅋ.. 웃기지도 않네
@JoyfulOne468
@JoyfulOne468 4 ай бұрын
Good for you Anna! I'm not Korean but I'm tired of people making these generalized comments about Korea.
@hdlk
@hdlk 4 ай бұрын
Agreed, it's hard to fight back with the truth because Korean population is too small so the voices get overshadowed and I don't see any Koreans online pushing back against the lies said by westerners and other clueless foreigners
@NewWaveTEKKEN
@NewWaveTEKKEN 4 ай бұрын
The fork mic is next level! That is the most important thing.
@qazwsxedcrfv-i1y
@qazwsxedcrfv-i1y Ай бұрын
Could you talk about deepfake porn emergency in South Korea? It seems quite serious.
@JaGUnit
@JaGUnit Ай бұрын
It was a small amount of people.
@fkfkfkl09505
@fkfkfkl09505 Ай бұрын
@@JaGUnithundreds of thousands is a “small amount” idc if it’s 200 it shouldn’t be happening at all
@yeumu
@yeumu 28 күн бұрын
@@JaGUnit so what if it's small amount of people? there are still victims of it wtf?
@vtheory7531
@vtheory7531 27 күн бұрын
@@JaGUnit It's over 200K men and boys in that group, this is NOT a small amount of people
@JaGUnit
@JaGUnit 26 күн бұрын
@@vtheory7531 Its a international group lol The bot is owned by foreigner maybe.
@selohcin
@selohcin 4 ай бұрын
I’m so glad that an articulate and well-educated Korean woman like Anna is making these videos for the English-speaking internet. She’s one of the only people in the world who could make videos like this. If she didn't do this, no one would!
@edwardtimothy3581
@edwardtimothy3581 4 ай бұрын
Me too. The more we stay silenced, the more we let this people get too comfortable making false depiction about our culture
@HaileyKaas
@HaileyKaas 16 күн бұрын
Misandry is not real in terms of a social phenomenon, as a structure of oppression, while misogyny is a wide spread phenomenon that oppresses women. Yes, there can be misandrist women, but the world is not misandrist, on the contrary, it's certainly misogynist. The dictionary definitions are not an end in themselves. The term misandry is often used to make seem that there are two extreme opposites in a certain "equivalence", but men are not oppressed by women, it's the other way around. You can check the index of domestic violence, sexual crimes, femicide, etc. men perpetrates against women versus the opposite. There are women who abuse men, yes, but it's far less. I hope that helped.
@duckyh9712
@duckyh9712 16 күн бұрын
Why don’t you march for the equal right to get drafted. Korean men are forced to do military duty. Nothing you do as women can amount to the fear and pain men are forced. Check your privilege
@duckyh9712
@duckyh9712 16 күн бұрын
Go watch Ukraine drone videos and get humbled. millions of men are dead in the ground so you can have the privilege to sit in your air conditioned home and type that.we built the world check the stats for most women jobs. Service jobs.
@Kalakeiko
@Kalakeiko 14 күн бұрын
​@@duckyh9712That still doesn't change the fact that men are the biggest threat to women, children and other men. Look at how millions of women worldwide get harassed, assaulted, r*ped, tortured, abused and killed by men and said men get away with it while the lives of the women have been completely ruined. Check your privilege.
@realjohanngoethe
@realjohanngoethe 5 күн бұрын
Misogyny is a fairy tale made up by feminists. Women are and always have been treated BETTER than men. At least in the Western world.
@Vibe_Master_007
@Vibe_Master_007 5 күн бұрын
Found the femcel lol.
@검-x9u
@검-x9u 2 ай бұрын
4B = Before becoming incels, they quickly declared voluntary celibate.
@Godhelpus62
@Godhelpus62 18 күн бұрын
The fact that you found very little or nothing using a Korean search engine makes me a little suspicious. I’m sure with the extremely low birth rates, the government wouldn’t want the citizens to be more aware of the 4B movement, no matter how small it may be. I have heard of many cases of domestic abuse of women in Korea, who often don’t receive adequate justice in the courts. I think it’s important to acknowledge that though most singles still want to find the right partner, there also remains a lot of work to be done to improve the treatment and equality of women there. The women who are choosing to stop wanting or needing men in their lives don’t always “hate” men, they just want to be treated better. I’m sure they wouldn’t forgo a relationship if they had faith in the way they would be treated by them.
@sadasasdas8467
@sadasasdas8467 17 күн бұрын
The problem with this comment is that you are being swept away making generalizations by reading sensationalist headlines. It's better to just focus on data if you wan't an accurate picture of the country, where I'm assuming you not even Korean to begin with? Pretty much all surveys concluded that economics and cost of living are the main drivers pushing people to get married in their 30's, which inevitably affects the birth rate, while less
@Godhelpus62
@Godhelpus62 16 күн бұрын
@@sadasasdas8467 I definitely agree that the low birth rates are due predominantly to economic factors, but I don’t want to just brush aside many Korean women’s concerns about the patriarchal system. We can’t just pretend it doesn’t exist and isn’t a factor, albeit a smaller one. I have looked at some of the data concerning domestic abuse and sexual assault being greatly underreported and women not being believed or taken seriously even after they do report it. No I’m not Korean, but have a lot of Korean friends who were raised there. Some spend part of the year there and part here. Even if non-Koreans are less aware of the 4B movement than Koreans, it is still there in small numbers, which makes me think these women should be taken seriously. I know these cultural norms don’t change easily or quickly, and people will always be quite resistant, especially those who already have the advantage. Why would they want to change?
@sadasasdas8467
@sadasasdas8467 14 күн бұрын
@@Godhelpus62 If SA and DV are being under-reported, there should be at the very least, an corresponding data that reflects the underlying situation of the society. This is called cross-checking and its very common in world of data. For ex, economists cross check China's economic data with other countries trade custom figures. With that in mind, to your point that if SA and DV are under-reported, you should be able to see a massive rise in other crimes like drug abuse, violent crime in general, even murder as these are all inter-related. Another way to cross-check is to look at the police budget, most of the money being spent is to deal with drunks every night as Koreans do drink a lot. See how relying on anecdotal examples within your friends circle or reading sensationalist headlines don't really add up here? Korea does not show any signs of any of that
@someoneontheinternet580
@someoneontheinternet580 3 ай бұрын
17:23 I really like your video, I hardly could find better words.
@llpp11
@llpp11 27 күн бұрын
I don’t agree with take seems like your take is very manufactured by people around you. Like “its unfair men serve in military and women don’t hence why they are upset at women” a rational person would say “well who made those rules and who fault is it? And why get mad at women when they didn’t made those rules” somehow male frustration over benign stuff is ok but female frustration over gender based violence/pornography is not?
@charlesdole
@charlesdole 19 күн бұрын
Military service is not a "benign thing". Both men and women vote for politicians who make laws for the country. It's not a one sided problem. You're the one trying to "manufacture" a false narrative.
@llpp11
@llpp11 19 күн бұрын
@@charlesdole for South korea it is. South korea is not israel they aren’t fighting Hamas or other terrorist groups, South Korea is also not Thailand where Thai militants have to fight pirates and ISIS. Death in south korean military is very rare and the when it does happen on rare occasions its due to mishaps in training, they are training for future attacks from north but aren’t actively fighting. On the other hand deaths in IDF or Thai military (both countries have military conscription and have low amount of misogyny) it’s quite common to die, i don’t see heavy misogyny from their side? So what is this “military is hard hence misandry exists” is coming from? There was study conducted in south korea asking if women should be allowed for military conscription 55-60% participants said no. Its self victimization Also it might seem backwards but a traditional country believes women should give birth, raise population and men should fight in war and protect country. Fight traditionalism PS: i’m all for women conscription in military but it will take a massive blow to SK’s already low population. Again fight traditionalism
@charlesdole
@charlesdole 19 күн бұрын
@@llpp11 "military is hard hence misandry exists" nobody claimed that buddy. You made that up on your own.
@charlesdole
@charlesdole 19 күн бұрын
@@llpp11 Your logic = "people aren't dying therefor it's benign". That's called black and white fallacy. 2 years of training and labor whilst being underpayed and isolated from society, is a huge disadvantage to your career in early 20s.
@charlesdole
@charlesdole 19 күн бұрын
@@llpp11 serving the military is not "traditionalism".
@noemibernal4882
@noemibernal4882 4 ай бұрын
What a great video! Your common sense is gold, rare and highly valuable. I came here after your live with David because you made a comment about it and I'm so glad I did 👏😄
@meowmeu123
@meowmeu123 Ай бұрын
What do you think now? 4B is a survival skill 😂
@Aight2-sf5wk
@Aight2-sf5wk 2 ай бұрын
I want to talk about the percentage of women who never have kids in different countries. South Korea has the lowest birth rate in the world at 0.72, but Japan has the most women who never have children. Women who reach 50 without having kids are called "lifelong childless." Last month, the OECD said 28.3% of Japanese women born in 1975 were childless by age 49. This is the highest rate among OECD countries, where the average is 16.2%. So, about 1 in 3.5 Japanese women never has a child. Usually, developing countries have more births and fewer childless women than developed countries. This means Japan likely has the highest rate of childless women in the world. After Japan, Spain (23.9%) and Italy (22.5%) have the next highest rates of lifelong childlessness. South Korea (12.9%) is seventh, behind Germany (4th), France (5th), and the UK (6th), but still less than half of Japan's rate. The difference between South Korea and Japan shows that even though South Korea has a lower birth rate, more South Korean women have at least one child compared to Japan. This is because more Japanese families have multiple kids. Willem Adema, an OECD economist, says, "In South Korea, the cost of raising kids is so high that many families only have one child, while in Japan, families often have 2-3 kids." In summary, Japan's higher birth rate compared to South Korea is due to more families with multiple kids. But, Japan also has a much higher percentage of women who never have children compared to South Korea.
@letztermensch5571
@letztermensch5571 Ай бұрын
Wrong. Childless? That will soon be worse in South Korea More than half of Korean women in their 30s will be childless. Just wait 10 years Japanese analysis of Korea is always wrong. Just like Koreans are always wrong about predicting a Fujisan explosion
@letztermensch5571
@letztermensch5571 Ай бұрын
Analysis without causality is always meaningless I guarantee that Korea will also have more "childless women" than Japan
@lou9226
@lou9226 2 ай бұрын
뭐지 4B? 나만 모르는 건가 싶었는데ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 그게 아니였네
@yuchan063
@yuchan063 4 ай бұрын
11:50 On May 23, 2024, a South Korean soldier died during training. He had a medical condition, and was punished physically just for making a fuss. The instructor dismissed his claim that he was sick as a lie and continued on, eventually leading to his death. It is currently the hottest incident in South Korea in recent days, and to make matters worse, it has become a huge source of controversy because the instructor was a woman. I don't understand why Western media doesn't report this. South Korea currently has an extremely high conscription rate, higher than that of Nazi Germany during the war. Therefore, even if someone has a tolerable disability or disease, he can be conscripted for active duty. The number of young men continues to decrease, and South Korea's Ministry of National Defense continues to increase the conscription rate. As a result, the number of deaths or injuries, and the number of shootings due to mental problems are increasing. Conscription of women is almost the only way to solve these problems as well as the problem of discrimination against women. However, South Korea's Ministry of Defense refuses to conscript women, and many young women also view military service negatively. South Korean men believe that women receive preferential treatment, and South Korean companies do not view women as proper adults because they have not fulfilled their military obligations, so they prefer to hire male employees. This again becomes the reason why South Korean women refuse to be drafted, saying, 'There is no reason for women to join the military because discrimination against women is still rampant.' This vicious cycle continues to occur, and gender conflict in South Korea is becoming more and more serious.
@vtheory7531
@vtheory7531 4 ай бұрын
Why have conscription at all? Maybe both men and women should not be conscripted, and make military service completely voluntary?
@SNSK231
@SNSK231 4 ай бұрын
You don't even have basic knowledge about Korea.​@@vtheory7531
@mjkdesker1
@mjkdesker1 Ай бұрын
@@vtheory7531 north korea
@Vibe_Master_007
@Vibe_Master_007 5 күн бұрын
​@@vtheory7531 blame North Korea.
@hannahjeon9187
@hannahjeon9187 Ай бұрын
I’m a married Korean woman living in America. I visit Korea every year because all of my family members are in Korea. This week, I went to visit my former professor’s class at the university I graduated 6 years ago to help international students from China to learn about what I do. There, I met this girl who told me about 4B movements as I introduced her that I’m Korean. I told her I’ve never heard about it and that’s what brought me here on this video. None of my Korean friends knew or even heard about this.. I absolutely agree with everything Anna said in this video. Only few people follow this movement and certainly many women in Korea have no idea this movement even exists. Online contents can be misleading. Thank you so much Anna for making this video. This is my first time seeing your video and you are an amazing person trying to convey the truth.
@ouuuchhh
@ouuuchhh 4 ай бұрын
On behalf of all the hard working, caring, loving, respectful dads and husbands in the world, thanks Anna!
@goforbroke28
@goforbroke28 4 ай бұрын
I'm from Mexico, and I have been seeing Kdramas for years. Every one of them brings out one thing, everyone is looking for LOVE! So one other thing I noticed was that South Korean's and Mexican's have is family, food, and laughter, Oh and we like to have a good time with friends and drinking Beer and Tequila/Soju, both look the same, clear and delicioso. Ajua! traiga mas mi compita!
@billusher2265
@billusher2265 4 ай бұрын
But what I don’t understand is you make it sound like most people in Korea want to get married and start families, but if that’s true why is their marriage and birth rate so low?
@benjamo0o0
@benjamo0o0 4 ай бұрын
Economics...
@판탈라사
@판탈라사 3 ай бұрын
You don't even watch the video LOL. watch 0:01
@khadijahmuhammad4539
@khadijahmuhammad4539 2 ай бұрын
I hace been tryba find actual Koreans speaking in it for a very long time lol I read Kim Jiyoung it's an amazing book and I think every culture needs a book like that. But I'm very thankful that I got this perspective bc I felt something wasn't right when there was only like 3 articles about it and then 1000 TikToks
@Ronbonbon7
@Ronbonbon7 4 ай бұрын
Wow!!! A logical person speaking with common sense, a dying breed. Fabulous job ms. Lee!
@maroindefinitlyhuman6857
@maroindefinitlyhuman6857 4 ай бұрын
always keep in mind that "incel" is a unisex word.
@TamissonReis
@TamissonReis 4 ай бұрын
Incel is an involuntary celibate. If you choose you are not incel
@7heTexanRebel
@7heTexanRebel 4 ай бұрын
​@@TamissonReisthe involuntary part isn't too relevant since people saying it's voluntary is 99% cope.
@samuraijosh1595
@samuraijosh1595 4 ай бұрын
​@@7heTexanRebelright on the nail
@andrewrobertson1124
@andrewrobertson1124 4 ай бұрын
@@7heTexanRebel lol have you seen the dating market recently. There's plenty of men who don't care
@CarboKill
@CarboKill 4 ай бұрын
​@@7heTexanRebelWrong. I'm a conventionally attractive guy who never had to approach women because they approached me all the time, and I lost my virginity at 25 because I was waiting for a good woman to marry. Also, most incels are actually volcel, because they're not interested in hiring prostitutes or using hook-up sites. Most of them want the relationship more than sex, i.e. they simply have standards they can't reach, and having standards is volcel, since you could just lower them any time you want.
@user-ci7nx6pr2o
@user-ci7nx6pr2o 20 күн бұрын
댓글들 믿을수가 없다 지들이 뭔데 입모아서 4b는 허상이다 존재하지않는다 한국의 낮는 출생율은 페미니즘적 결과가 아니다 웅앵 이러고 있지? 어이가 없어서 힘이 그냥 쫙빠지네
@whatever
@whatever 4 ай бұрын
Great video!
@InsanityRerun
@InsanityRerun 4 ай бұрын
Western media saw something they push in their own countries and latched on to the topic. They completely and purposefully omit the fact that nobody really is a part of that nonsense in Korea.
@gotakazawa408
@gotakazawa408 4 ай бұрын
I agree with you. This trend can be observed not only towards South Korea but also towards Japan. Could it be due to cultural differences? Western media often report with the assumption that their values are inherently correct.
@InsanityRerun
@InsanityRerun 4 ай бұрын
​@@gotakazawa408 I've heard stories of them doing that in Japan as well. Western nations and their people are brought up from birth to believe that all other countries are backwards and underdeveloped if they do not live by the exact same culture and moral priorities. To be fair, though, the f*minist movement in Western nations is a tool of their leading far left political parties. This is why there is the illusion of it being so popular in their nations when in reality if you go there, the men are disgusted and tired of dealing with the "girl power/girl boss" era and are going to Asia (Korea, Japan, Thailand, The Phillipines, Singapore, etc) all to find more feminine traditional asian wives since that's how our nations still do things for the most part.
@anhluu9417
@anhluu9417 3 ай бұрын
Its not just these countries either, its almost like evey Southeast and East Asian country is played in some way in a manipulative manner. Especially in political sphere
@mothercat6083
@mothercat6083 4 ай бұрын
I’m a white American with an immigrant parent from Greece. Even with a strong Greek heritage, I would never think to speak on the behalf all Greek women as if I know what it’s like to grow up culturally there or what current culture around sexism they have now. I have visited my family that lives there but their life experience isn’t something for me to assume when it’s convenient for KZbin content and views. It really feels like these people over step to talk about cultures they don’t even know much about and when they can’t understand what’s really happening there because they aren’t there! It creates misinformation around the very country/topics they are trying to talk about and it’s disrespectful in my opinion!
@라기사가간다
@라기사가간다 4 ай бұрын
가짜뉴스 마타도어가 판치는 시국에 진실을 말해주시는 분들은 소중합니다.
@GenerationWhyMe
@GenerationWhyMe 4 ай бұрын
I dunno... the claim that feminism in Korea before 2015 or whatever seems wild to me without knowing much about Korean feminist history. Maybe Western pop feminism wasn't in Korea so much before then but I really doubt feminist organizzing wasn't happening before then. With a quick search I actually found an article about Ewha Women's University opening a Women's Studies Program in the late 70s... so at least there's that as an example.
@losahdanny
@losahdanny 4 ай бұрын
Aaaaaand that's why I try to stay away from socials especially TT. It's a bubble. It's designed that way by its algorithm and pretty much any socials but more so in TT. People don't realize their bias when they try to debate about a topic. You have a very nuanced, smart take on the topic at hand. Great job Anna!
@royliuhm
@royliuhm 4 ай бұрын
As a Singaporean man, I understand how it feels to have to go through the army and the women just breezing past and getting their degrees earlier. This leads to a kind of "gap" where a woman of the same age as the man would have more working experience and usually more money than the man. What further compounds it is that Singaporean men have to serve up to 40 days of mandatory reservist every year for the next 10 years after they finish their initial national service. National service for women is also a hot topic in Singapore as well. I am very glad that your views on the topic are very balanced and kind. Keep up the good work!
@ogolden8315
@ogolden8315 4 ай бұрын
What are they males doing to challenge the system set up the Elite Males? Wars are started by males (even if it is the males in power who start it or have to defend themselves against more aggressive males). Resenting women for a system created by other males makes no sense.
@resnon
@resnon 4 ай бұрын
Quite similar to the conscription requirements in South Korea, but much of it is a function of the surrounding geopolitical landscape presently. It’s an unfortunate bind for both it and its neighboring country. The social construction of normative gender roles is the nidus of the absurdity in a handful of behaviors no longer relevant in the modern day. So while what you said places men behind academically and economically, your counterparts ought to be more understanding of the purpose of serving in the force.
@royliuhm
@royliuhm 4 ай бұрын
@@resnon It is exactly because such understanding, and empathy is lacking, not to mention the lack of respect, even scorn towards national service that is why some Singaporeans, and as in the video, Korean men feel belittled, and even betrayed by "the system".
@tobyc8668
@tobyc8668 4 ай бұрын
Interestingly, I read somewhere that only about 900,000 man in Singapore had completed the mandatory 2 years conscription despite having a population of almost 6 million. And, I also saw a population spike of about 3 million in the 90s to almost 6 million today in Singapore. A possible future of Korea if mass immigration route is chosen.
@royliuhm
@royliuhm 4 ай бұрын
@@tobyc8668 No sure where you got the numbers from, but national service is only for Singaporean males. And yes there is a huge influx of non-Singaporeans in Singapore. According to a quick google search it said "In 2023, around 3.61 million people living in Singapore were citizens, compared to around 1.77 million who were non-residents. In that year, the total population in Singapore was approximately 5.92 million" Quite a few years back there was a push towards increasing the population via "foreign talent" and it led to a huge influx of people, and quite a bit of backlash iirc. So yes, there is also the idea that Singaporean men are getting the short end of the stick because foreign men do not need to serve national service either. Which contributes to the "unfairness" and "dissatisfaction" with national service in general.
@jj.104
@jj.104 3 ай бұрын
한국여성으로써 대부분의 한국인들은 4B 운동이 뭔지 조차 몰라요
@oo-kr3kv
@oo-kr3kv 3 ай бұрын
비연애 비혼은 많이 하죠. 그게 4b에 포함됩니다.
@hfjsjsvhd
@hfjsjsvhd 3 ай бұрын
한국여성 대변인임? ㅈㄴ 유명한데
@hfjsjsvhd
@hfjsjsvhd 3 ай бұрын
공부좀해라
@jj.104
@jj.104 3 ай бұрын
@@hfjsjsvhd 내 주변은 아무도 모름..
@fisaor
@fisaor 3 ай бұрын
​@@jj.104내 주변은 다 암...
@cventer838
@cventer838 4 ай бұрын
Generalizing is the worst issue worldwide. How sad! Well said Anna. ❤
@0fficialselena__90
@0fficialselena__90 4 ай бұрын
It's not a generalization if it's true plus knowing that women are blamed for man's actions or just seeing how this world is towards women, women know they're good men but don't know who so it's all till we know them individually
@NickG409
@NickG409 4 ай бұрын
@@0fficialselena__90 What's up with the Victim mentality. Every day men go to jail because of a women lies. And what action do you speak of ?
@0fficialselena__90
@0fficialselena__90 4 ай бұрын
​@NickG409 Men end up in jail for their own doings not because of women and usually when it has something to do with women, men get away with it
@NickG409
@NickG409 4 ай бұрын
@@0fficialselena__90 Continue being a victim. Never ever has that mindset improved a single Human beings life. Men are pure evil and women are angels right ?
@jxtype
@jxtype 4 ай бұрын
@@0fficialselena__90 Where's the logic in this? "it's all until we know them individually." How will you ever know them individually? it's impossible, your statement is ridiculous. I could say the same about women but that's morally wrong. How is your statement right and fair? Generalizing is such an insensitive thing to do for all the innocent people out there, have some kindness in your heart for a fellow human.
@but_iWantedTo_speakGerman
@but_iWantedTo_speakGerman 4 ай бұрын
This video was like SOOOOO antisemitic. (if you know you know)
@zanderC5953
@zanderC5953 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video Anna! These negative misconceptions need to be addressed^^ Also explaining the online communities issue in South Korea too🤔
@msmoco5898
@msmoco5898 4 ай бұрын
Anna, your skin is flawless. Seriously! Whatever you’re doing, keep it up.
@emennis
@emennis 4 ай бұрын
People are crazy and quick to jump to conclusions. Pisses me off regularly. Sorry for all the hate.
@vandykebrwn
@vandykebrwn 20 күн бұрын
한국에서 여성은 살해, 성폭행, 성착취, 교제 폭력의 대상이다. 피해자가 명확한 상황에서의 중립은 가해자의 편에 서는 것이나 다름없다.
@Vibe_Master_007
@Vibe_Master_007 5 күн бұрын
Found the femcel lol.
@shanziburrito9697
@shanziburrito9697 Ай бұрын
pick me girl vibes lol. the population crisis speaks for itself.
@bored78612
@bored78612 Ай бұрын
Birthrates are low in every developed country. Birthrates have been falling in Korea before 4B ever happened
@josephp9141
@josephp9141 Ай бұрын
Again a vague statement without any solid evidence. Didn’t even bother to how birth rate and “it” correlates lol.
@JaGUnit
@JaGUnit Ай бұрын
lol talking nonsense again
@skillbopster
@skillbopster Ай бұрын
The pick me insult is a sexist insult used by feminists to enforce conformity of misandry in women.
@Vibe_Master_007
@Vibe_Master_007 5 күн бұрын
At this point, 'pick me girl' is a compliment rather than a insult.
@vandykebrwn
@vandykebrwn 19 күн бұрын
여기 계속 반박 댓글 다는 한국남성들은 자기들 실상이 널리 퍼져서 이제는 국제결혼도 못할까봐 저러는건가? 아득바득 여자들 댓글에 시비털고 다니면서 싸우는게 하타치 그자체네.
@Vibe_Master_007
@Vibe_Master_007 5 күн бұрын
Found the femcel lol.
@유호성-b1u
@유호성-b1u 4 күн бұрын
This is the face of K-femi. Even It looks like she didn't even listen to Anna's explanation.
@유호성-b1u
@유호성-b1u 4 күн бұрын
I think it would be better for you to be more afraid of the reality of K-femi being spread.
@Fraulein_Sausageball
@Fraulein_Sausageball 4 ай бұрын
I wish there were more people in the world like you who are striving to promote understanding and harmony rather than sow anger and division. All the constant online rage is exhausting.
@copaqueen
@copaqueen 4 ай бұрын
I love that you provided facts! You shut down all those people that think they know about Korea when they don’t. I take the time to read several Korean newspapers daily. I have not read about that movement. People should not let Tik Tok or IG for example rely on subject matters as facts. I get annoyed when a friend tells me a “scientific truth” from “Tik Tok” that I should try. I know what was told to me was false & asked where did you get your information. I always use reliable confirmed sources. Yes, the media can sensationalize but it is up to the individual to seek more informative truth. Too much false information is out there. Great job, Ana!
@srijasingh6533
@srijasingh6533 4 ай бұрын
I think nuance is missing, both in the discourse about the 4B movement and in your commentary on the ‘eradication’ of patriarchy in Korea. While I agree that feminism is not about being hostile to another gender, but along the same lines denying the existence of patriarchy simply on the grounds that the situation is slightly better now and women finally have rights and the younger generation of men is slightly more sensible and sensitized about gender issues is just naive. Patriarchy is complex. It’s the one system of mass oppression that has managed to withstand the test of time for millennia now, so just dismissing it on account of a few improvements in the last century is just delusional. The discussion needs to continue and the discourse needs to adapt to the needs of the current generation. PS: Aren’t domestic violence, date rape, stalking and a weak legal system that does nothing to protect its women and children still true for the current generation?
@판탈라사
@판탈라사 4 ай бұрын
That Korean law also does not protect high-risk industrial workers, ignores men who died while serving in the military, and does not protect men in general. In fact, if you go to the police station and report missing, you can report it right away if a woman goes missing and start an investigation right away, but if a man goes missing, you can report it 24 hours later and start an investigation after discussing the investigation decision. I think the law not keeps up with the times. And the legislators are sitting on the sidelines.
@MrSkywalk
@MrSkywalk 3 ай бұрын
I support you Anna. As a Korean American person now living back in Korea, i think this whole 4B accusation from the west is cultural colonization for a woke agenda
@natenate88
@natenate88 2 ай бұрын
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