The Truth About the Apollo City Pro: What I Dislike After 250 Miles

[@ovenheating9482]

I got my city pro back up and running from where I had been hit by a car on it 2 months ago. Not sure if you remember my comments about that lol. 500 miles on it so far and I love it. Smooth ride and like you said literally silent motors. Suspension is great handles the road well. They have the new upgrade kit coming out with the turning signals on the ends of the bars plus a few other bonuses. I went ahead and purchased that I'm excited for when it ships out in July.

[@TimsElectric]

Of course I remember....so pleased you're back on your scooter again :) :) Excited to hear that you ordered the upgrade kit...I'm so curious :) :) Can you let me know how easy it is to upgrade and also if you like the upgrade?

[@ovenheating9482]

@@TimsElectric as soon as it comes in I will update this comment to let you know what I think about it.

[@TimsElectric]

@@ovenheating9482 awesome 👌

[@dotjack5262]

@@ovenheating9482 Just a Reminder if you didn't already

[@TheFoxranger]

Do you use it when it is raining ? Is there any rust ?

[@joinpsye7045]

Letting you know that I have the prototype ones and killed charging. I have it under repaired, at no cost. I have used it for 944 km already. I still recommend this a 1000 times. So much fun!

[@TimsElectric]

I love it too..another video coming soon :)

[@TheFoxranger]

Do you use it when it is raining ? Is there any rust ?

[@joinpsye7045]

@@TheFoxranger no rust at all I always wash to clean my scooter.

[@TheFoxranger]

@@joinpsye7045 Do you use it often when it is raining ?

[@BruceWayne15325]

Apollo is brilliant for adding the separate regen brake paddle on their scooters. Not having to replace brake pads is super nice, and getting a bit of extra range from it is a nice plus. I know that some don't like the drum brakes, but I think that's a smart move as well for the IP rating. Between combining regen brake and drum brake you could probably stop just as fast if not faster than disc brakes anyway.

[@TimsElectric]

totally agree @bryant7191, and the IP rating as you mentioned makes it so much better for people living on the wet coast :)

[@christianb8228]

I don’t understand what regen breaks are how does it break without you pressing anything?

[@BruceWayne15325]

@@christianb8228 You have to press a separate regen thumb paddle to apply the regen brakes. They work by basically reversing the current of the motors, so that instead of consuming power they generate power. The harder you press on the regen brake throttle the more electricity is generated and the faster you stop.

[@christianb8228]

@@BruceWayne15325 nice, thanks for the explanation

[@kidsgetmad]

the giant cruise in the background as you talk about cruise control made me burst out in laughter!

[@TimsElectric]

cheers Alexei :)

[@chronometer9931]

Another fun video tim. Apollo makes some incredible e-scooters

[@TimsElectric]

thanks so much..super fun to edit and Michael just makes it so easy for me :) :) thank you for your kind words :) Cheers

[@michaderstricha]

is the suspension noisy? does the part with the tyre bang against the frame when you drive over a bump and it snaps back? making a banging noise? like the segway Max G2 for example

[@TimsElectric]

it's smooth and quite @michaderstricha, if you jump a curb you might hear a bang...but otherwise it's quiet :)

[@eloipecquet]

Great Review Tim

[@TimsElectric]

@Eloi Pecquet ...wow the man himself!!! :) thank you Eloi!! Cheers

[@DrewDvorak]

Great video, I have a new city pro 22 and I have been getting temp issues. I want to go the full 50km/30mph all the time, but maybe I'm too heavy right now. Does yours ever give you controller temp issues where it starts beeping?

[@TimsElectric]

Hi Drew, I've never seen it...but I think you're pushing the limits of the scooter...for that kind of riding I'd be looking at the Phantom or even a Wolf King GT or something that has the ability to dissipate the heat more efficiently from both the motors (less of an issue) and the battery/controller area. :)

[@TheFoxranger]

Do you use it when it is raining ? Is there any rust ?

[@Witaaggression]

Why is the recent trips tab always empty I have yet to have a previous ride show up

[@TimsElectric]

that's my experience too...I think they will come out with an update...fingers crossed :)

[@JulianRides]

Aye Tim make a review of the vsett super 72 or maybe a comparison between the vsett super72 and zero 11x scooter?

[@TimsElectric]

that would be sweet...just need to get my hands on a Vsett :)

[@fergusobrien7963]

Great vid as usual but u didn't mention the weight limit...

[@TimsElectric]

lol...265lbs :) cheers :)

[@mobettaspice]

3:33 Cruise control with a cruise ship in the background great product placement.

[@TimsElectric]

I'm subtle :)

[@TonesAdventuresHD]

30 mph scooter - not bad. that cake looked good too 😃

[@TimsElectric]

omg that cake was sooo good lol :) thanks so much for watching Tone >....love seeing your comments :)

[@adammichalec1356]

​@TimsElectric what is the battery size?

[@lexg1455]

I wanna try that hill of death. Im fairly confident my nui max would get my 185lb butt up there no problem.

[@TimsElectric]

I have the Max...it wouldn't with me on it...but I'm 80lbs over you :)

[@mrsmcavoy6898]

Great video! What's the max range on this scooter?

[@TimsElectric]

awesome question...for me...I find I can get around 25Kms...without issue :)

[@mrsmcavoy6898]

@@TimsElectricthank you!! 🙏🙏❤

[@TimsElectric]

@@mrsmcavoy6898 you're welcome :)

[@natas-6747]

Great video. Thanks Tim!

[@TimsElectric]

Glad you liked it! If you have any questions let me know...I released an update recently :)

[@dcarmageddons]

im looking to buy one for my GF but im worried about range. What are you getting in average from 100 to 0 ?

[@TimsElectric]

so range on a scooter is going to be affected by weight, wind, hills, riding speed and temperature...Jamie did a range test on it (he's 165lbs) and it was a cold day...here's the link: kzbin.info/www/bejne/boiqaGpvqN-moZo

[@marklukedeguzman]

Apollo city pro, Punk pro Inokim oxo Gt1?

[@TimsElectric]

Awesome question @user-sx4rx6yx6u, Love my City but haven't tried any of the other ones you listed....they don't reply to my emails lol :(

[@cambridgeecon]

One downside - no obvious place to lock. No wheels to go through, and the footplate handle loop looks detachable. I’ve found you really need a U lock, and to fit it I paired with an ortlieb bike fork carry bag (which attaches to the stem nicely). This means you don’t need to carry the U lock separately/have it rattling on the handlebars. I use the hiplock dx1000 U lock which is arguably overkill, but I got one apollo city stolen when I used just an Abus folding lock. Thank goodness for insurance.

[@TimsElectric]

I really appreciate your reply @cambridgeecon, I'm going to try and find the bike fork carry bag you mentioned...that would be so handy....although typically I push my scooter into all establishments and so don't use a lock very often....cheers and much appreciated :)

[@dotjack5262]

Enjoy your cake fellow big man lol love these videos

[@TimsElectric]

Thank you 😋I do love slice of cake :) yummy :)

[@TheFoxranger]

Do you use it when it is raining ? Is there any rust ?

[@TimsElectric]

I do and no rust...it's aluminum :) plus the brakes are drum brakes so fully enclosed :)

[@TheFoxranger]

@@TimsElectric Ok thanks for the reply 🙂 Do you have the Apollo City 2023 ? How many miles did you do ?

[@TimsElectric]

I do have the City and recently passed 750 Miles...zero issues :)

[@7sonero7]

How does the acceleration and smoothness during slow speeds. Compare to the phantom V3 ?

[@TimsElectric]

Awesome question @7sonero7, they're both smooooth :) I adjusted the City P settings so that it was less aggressive in one of the modes :)

[@7sonero7]

@TimsElectric Thanks! Does the city have less clearance under the deck ? If so, I prefer a lower stance. Apollo does not provide deck dimensions.

[@TimsElectric]

@@7sonero7 the City is lower than the Phantom ...it feels lower too :) I don't have the Phantom here (Jamie is using it for DoorDash) so I can't measure the difference.

[@7sonero7]

@TimsElectric Thanks... that information should be provided on the Apollo website.

[@CosmicDr3amr]

Do you prefer the phantom or the city pro?

[@TimsElectric]

both !!! @CosmicDr3amr, as a daily the City Pro...but for trail rides and longer trips the Phantom :)

[@shortfactslonglives]

my hill is steeper than the hill of death

[@shortfactslonglives]

it cant go up the driveway tho

[@TimsElectric]

that's wild!!! Wouldn't be fun to walk it let alone ride it :)

[@TheOnlyTaps]

🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿

[@TimsElectric]

cheers @TheOnlyTaps

[@TheOnlyTaps]

@TimsElectric No worries. Keep up the great work 👊🏿. And thanks for the assistance. I finally made up my mind and am definitely gonna go with one of the Apollo models. Was surprised to also find out it's a Canadian company coz I'm also based here in Canada. Kelowna to be exact. But yeah as I mentioned on the first video I discovered you I kept doing some research and I think Apollo will suit me best from my research although I came close to choosing one of the Segway and Varla models but eventually decided upon the Apollo Air :)

[@TimsElectric]

@@TheOnlyTaps awesome to hear and do use my code as it helps the channel :) hope you love the Air :) and hope you're safe in Kelowna :)

[@TheOnlyTaps]

@@TimsElectric Will do 🙏🏿 and thanks yeah everything has calmed down now with the fires. The firefighters did a great job and eventually the weather played along and cooled down to help calm things down. Although West Kelowna got the brunt of the damage unfortunately but again the firefighters and emergency crews all did an excellent job at saving what they could save and containing the fires.

[@TimsElectric]

awesome to hear :) :) take care ...rain is coming :)

[@marshapelo9830]

What a large scooter. Makes you look regular on it.

[@TimsElectric]

lol...you're right :)

[@bestpotato3951]

Bro didn’t have to be so mean abt it 😂

[@antonypartali]

Tim my friend, i can understand your support to Apollo scooters... But this Scooter is the most EXPENSIVE drum brake!!! No my friend!! The scooter market getting grow every day bigger and bigger.... The competition is very high!! This scooter has no luck!!! Except if they cute price IN HALF!!!!!!😘

[@TimsElectric]

agree to disagree,.....I love drum brakes as the maintenance is low but if you're a speed demon, then you're going to want a different scooter with hydraulic brakes :) also with the regen brakes...I almost never use the drum brakes. lastly, it rains a lot here in the winter and with a high IP rating and no mechanical or hydraulic brakes to get wet and rusty, the drum brakes suit this climate and me perfectly. I really use it most days now :) Cheers and thanks for sharing your comment :)

[@antonypartali]

@@TimsElectric I'm a scooter "junky" ... Can understand your preference to drum brakes (definitely better in low speed) 👌 The think is automatically when you see drum brakes (e scooters or motos or cars) your mind go "low speed" "low cost"..... And this scooter is expensive!!

[@TimsElectric]

and the Pro is coming out soon with drum brakes lol :) you'll love that :) maybe drum brakes have improved :) :)

[@likelydaily6767]

I get the impression this guy doesn’t understand IP ratings. There is a big difference between ip64 and ip66. It’s not about the total number being only 2 apart.

[@TimsElectric]

thank you...it is by measure two apart. I would love it if manufacturers had IP 66 for their scooters and Ebikes but at present very few do. And 64 is splashed, while 66 is strong jets of water ..which is important when you live as I do very close to a rain forest :)

[@erikkuchen]

It's underpowered and overpriced. Design and low maintenance are really the only things it has. One of the weakest and lowest-ranged scooters at the price point. It's basically an overbuilt casual scooter. Any other mid-weight scooter will gap the city pro and outperform it at every performance metric. The City Pro is heavy for a casual commuter at ~65lbs

[@TimsElectric]

and yet I love it...I have literally a dozen scooters to choose from for commuting through the city...and I reach for it several times a week. Just last night for going to referee a soccer game...it's not too heavy...but so smooth and quiet...love it ...not fast (you're right) and the battery could be bigger but the smoothness of the acceleration and regen braking is awesome...plus I think it looks modern and clean :)

[@TimsElectric]

oh and the IP rating spanks most other scooters :) which as I look outside and it's pouring down is important for island living :)

[@tvandele]

Yes as an owner, I'd have to agree with you. It's much longer, taller, wider and heavier than my Ninebot Max G30LP, almost twice as heavy in fact. If a commuter scooters needs to be somewhat portable then this isn't a commuter. I can only just get it up a flight of stairs. I'm happy with the choice though. I was looking for the low maintenance and for something that could easily survive being riden in the rain and it's now survived 5 months of wet weather and a couple of serious crashes which might have messed up disc brakes.

[@TimsElectric]

do you use the brakes often? I cover them at intersections etc, but honestly only use the Regen :)

[@tvandele]

@@TimsElectric I just rode home from work and didn't use the drum brakes once. In fact I only use them when practising an emergency stop or if I want to keep the scooter stationary on uneven ground. I use the front drum and the regen to get the best emergency stopping performance.