The Best Commuter Scooter You Shouldn't Buy...YET

[@thiethie]

Great honest review. Honest reviews are what’s missing from the PEV community. Great job.

[@Blox117]

nah its trash get a unicycle

[@golden1199]

@@Blox117 lmao

[@lopezdad30]

Southern California rider here, from Los Angeles. I have racked up 745 miles on my Apollo City Pro. I am 6 foot, about 220 pounds and I have really been impressed commuting with this scooter! It is a beast; the power and performance are top notch. The range/battery life is fairly decent, I ride WOT a lot and have my acceleration maxed in the app and can achieve 20+ mile range. The Regen brake is fantastic, and I use it 95% of the time, even fresh off a full charge with no problems whatsoever. The only time I use the drum brakes is for emergency braking.

[@Yielar1]

Good to hear! I also have friends with 2022 City Pros that really like them. After a ton of research I finally preordered the new improved 2023 City Pro. Can't wait to receive it and put it through its paces.

[@StellaHulliet]

User's comment: "I have racked up 745 miles on my Apollo City Pro. I am 6 foot, about 220 pounds and I have really been impressed commuting with this scooter! It is a beast; the power and performance are top notch. The range/battery life is fairly decent, I ride WOT a lot and have my acceleration maxed in the app and can achieve 20+ mile range. The Regen brake is fantastic, and I use it 95% of the time, even fresh off a full charge with no problems whatsoever. The only time I use the drum brakes is for emergency braking."My reply: Hey there, Southern California rider from Los Angeles! It's great to hear about your positive experience with the Apollo City Pro scooter. As an ebike user myself, I recently came across a new project called the freebeat Morph 2-in-1 eBike. It's a game-changer, allowing you to charge the bike indoors! The Morph eBike offers a brushless 750W motor, impressive torque, and a top speed of 20mph. Its suspension and puncture-resistant fat tires ensure a smooth ride on any terrain. You should definitely check it out! Keep riding and enjoying your commute!

[@christianb8228]

I don’t understand the difference between the two breaks and how each are used?

[@christianb8228]

@@Yielar1did it come yet?

[@lopezdad30]

@@christianb8228 regen braking is the electric motor running in reverse to slow down.... the traditional drum brakes use pads to slow down.

[@llMarvelous]

I’m not particularly into scooters, although I consider buying one from time to time, but I want to appreciate how professional this video is looking for the channel with under 300 subscribers

[@64north20west]

I almost bought this over the Ghost because of the puncture resitant tires. I was afraid of low range, but you appear to get good range. However, I am on pause with this. My E-TWOW is still kicking with almost zero maintenance after 6 years and I think I will run it in the ground before going with this. The range and speed of the Apollo options are what I prefer, but the maintenance and weight and carry ability seems to be a caveat. Thank you for the great honesty in this video. I was almost going to pull the trigger because of yet another 'sale' with the countdown clock.

[@martinrandez]

Now THIS is what a review should be like!! Freaking awesome Nic!! Great work on compiling all that info together. I'm still on the fence between the this City pro and Emove Cruiser but now have a much better viewpoint on Apollo. Many many thanks :)

[@asuavery28]

Totally agree! I’m deciding on this one and the cruiser as well but I’m leaning towards the City Pro because of the dual motor but the range and deck size on the cruiser is great

[@stevenm936]

We need more Nic Laporte style reviews online. Way too many reviewers only review a demo sent by the manufacturer for a short time. Not many want to stick their necks out to say the negatives.

[@christianb8228]

Many people don’t value truth these days unfortunately

[@gtbuddy1980]

My experience with Apollo was great, I have the explorer 21. I had problems water getting in the scooter, I got it fix at Apollo service center in NY, they cover that part I only had to pay the labor part, which it was 25 dollar, they adjusted my break,and seal on the scooter even the ppl at Apollo service center was friendly and nice.

[@ZhanzhiLi]

This is definitely an honest review not only on the scooter but also the company's marketing Strategy.

[@YlisseanShepherd]

I'm just glad I live in Queens, NYC. I live not to far from their warehouse in Brooklyn, so service isn't too bad for me.

[@chadherrick4883]

That may be the best scooter review I’ve seen yet, nice work!

[@MatthewFordVictoria]

Thanks for your information about Appollo. I'm a Big Guy... 6'7", 290lbs (bouncer at bars) and originally, the Phantom and Ghost were the only ones I found that can carry 300lbs (me plus gear). After hearing all of your concerns, I chose to avoid Appollo and found the Emove Cruiser S that carries 352lbs and gets 99km's, while the Phantom only gets 64km's, and the Ghost only gets 60km's.

[@Yielar1]

The Emove Cruiser S is a decent commuter but it does have some drawbacks. It has the older style 18650 battery cells which aren't as good and won't last as long as the newer 21700 cells. Doesn't have IP66 dust and water proofing like the 2023 City Pro which I think is important for longevity. Only has a 6 month warranty which I think should be a minimum 1 year but longer if possible.

[@thereindeertherabbitthebat592]

Wow... This is all very good info to know ahead of time. Can never have enough reviews for things like electric scooters. Thanks for sharing your experiences 👍 (That "battery sag" thing seems to be a commonality among all electric scooters. I think it's just the nature of the beast when you're dealing with these types of batteries.)

[@Smanchypants]

Very useful review. I have the Apollo Air and was thinking of getting this one but all the issues you have named happened to me as well and was not without problems. While Apollo eventually fixed all the issues, but there are a lot of these issues with quality control with both the physical scooter and the app that I would have to get used to.

[@998trex]

The best review I have seen on the Apollo City Pro!

[@nicthedoor]

I appreciate the comment. Thanks!

[@Geoff240ti]

Fantastic video/content. I bought a GT2 and almost ordered this for my wife. We ended up with a p100s (fair weather riders only). I look forward to seeing what Apollo builds in the future!

[@rowanosborn6850]

Curious how that p100s is going heard they are riddled with issues?

[@PinnaclePete]

Excellent, candid review! Most helpful to someone like me just getting interested in e-scooters and considering my first purchase. This scooter checks most of the boxes for me except it doesn't have an easily removable battery in the deck like the AnyHill UM-2. I would have to lug this scooter up and down quite a few steps every time it needed charging and my body nor my landlord wouldn't particularly like that.

[@Jamie-vi4ps]

Great and fair review. I opted for the Apollo Air as I wanted a lighterweight option that had similar features to the City but wanted the peace of mind of an IP66 rating. Turned out to be a total sham. Scooter took on water just from riding on wet ground/in light rain. Have spent over $1500 and now have a brick in my living room. Wish I had heeded the advice of others before buying.

[@juliajames2]

I bought an apollo air 2022 ordered on 16 april on backorder and recievecd 5th may and my software won't let me use it, i received it on friday and am still waiting for a pin code to access / unlock the scooter, its just sitting like a rock in park currently waiting for a responce from apollo 3 days later to try first ride. Thinking about returning it and taking the loss. Think may have gotten a used returned scooter as well, was'nt packed fully properly or the box secured twice with wrapping strap and one of the syrafoam packing things was already broke in two, only one strap on it and the handlebar was already plugged in to stem cord.

[@jozero_hero]

Great review, I agree on and share all your views. Especially agree with the brake ergonomic issue. It’s my biggest annoyance, I’ll likely swap out the levers or 3D print my own. I’ve been commuting in the Vancouver rain with mine as well and it’s been pretty great while I’m decked out in aftermarket lighting. Also noticed Apollos shady sales practices, thank you for being the only one calling them out. Maybe I’ll see you out there, peace.

[@davidb9213]

What lighting did you get? Agreed one handlebars etc too…

[@sergiolandz6056]

Bro every single scooter company are shady AF when it comes to sales. I dont think there's one company out there that are fully honest with their product.

[@Goblexter]

Thank you for bringing attention to the marketing side of their business as well. I do not want to support companies employing aggressive and fallacious marketing strategies.

[@8_x_9.]

Bad business practices from this money gabbing company!!! P100S =yes.

[@drgb6800]

Apollo wants to know. Good for you.They will only get better.They admit freely to their issues and will improve.

[@8_x_9.]

Yes but we're the guinea pigs for Apollo!!!Untill they fix all those faulty things with their escooters!!! We pay for these amatures till they get it right..! Come on!!! The P100S is better.

[@The45182843]

This is the most honest review I saw on KZbin for a while, thank you

[@nicolasmaximus2286]

Honest review is KING. Don't hold back on the negatives ever. Companies are responsible for your safety & for your hard earned 🤑💰!!!!! We don't want con games!!! Soon or later bad companies will fail!!! Don't forget they can be sued for a few reasons. Lawyer up & learn about it.

[@arturfedchyk6794]

Thank you for such an informative and honest review. This is definitely the best review of the Apollo scooter I've seen. It's very instructive as well. I would be really glad to hear your opinion about the latest 2023 model. Should we buy it, or not yet? 😊

[@rinpoche2419]

Hi Nic, thanks for the videos about the Apollo City 2022, very interesting. Bough it even tho you don't recommend it yet. I love it, waterproof enough for my needs (test it intensively in wet/dirt/snow condition and passed the test easily). I found a fix for the hood always unlatching. I reversed the upper hook (by punching the pin out towards the left handle) and made the loop smaller by heating and clamping just a little so it can pass throught the lower hook. Works great after that, it was annoying me too much to leave it like that. Thanks again for the reviews and videos!

[@yanassi]

6 months later, my apollo city pro, has some things needing addressing. First, regen brake and throttle sticking, was addressed by apollo as they sent me replacements free of charge. I installed them and now all sticking has been addressed and these new ones are smoother. After installation, the bell is basically non-functioning due to the regen being larger and now the fit is too tight. I didn’t really use the little dinging bell anyway, preferring an Orb light/horn instead. Second issue, is hook to latch to carry the scooter but since it didn’t lock you’re counting on the weight (a little heavy 72 lbs, but not impossible to lift) to keep it from un-catching mid-carrying. It seems to be resolved with a replacement hook (there’s a spring loaded lock) that’s not available yet. The app is good, but i have to re-enter preferences like max speed due to it resetting to 12mph top speed after powering down the app. love the dual motors, decent distance, handling. There’s a new kickstand out which i’ll determine if it’s needed. There’s also a new handlebar kit coming soon, with improved accessories on it, including the kickstand and hook. Perfection would be everything the same but 20 lbs lighter for carrying upstairs, perhaps new materials and battery in the future. Kudos to apollo for enhancing the city pro ‘22 rather than just forgetting about it’s customers and telling us to just buy the next model as if we want a garage with unused scooters.

[@nicthedoor]

Spot on! I am looking forward to this years iteration of the pro. It seems like it will address many of the issues with the 22. Lighter would be awesome!

[@pmjuliff]

Thanks for your very balanced review, really appreciated your honest opinion. I have bought one but will keep an eye open for the quirks and issues you have identified. Cheers!

[@arnebuchner1297]

The best review of an e-scooter I've seen so far. Please continue in this way - just great.

[@jc51373]

Great review...Coming from someone who is potentially going to buy a very lightly used 2022 single motor for $700 I am thinking twice. By the time I am done correcting these issues it's as much as the GO...Might start there.

[@MrLessyam]

Thanks Nic, by far the most informative (the good and the bad) video on this particular scooter to date. Cant wait to ride mine in Rainncouver as well ;).

[@tomm2639]

Water resistance in the wheels motor is where ur water damage will come over long term, unless they are using silicone seals around the wheel cover ( I doubt it) as soon as 1 screw is not perfectly tight u will get water in the wheel motor/ already are getting water in there slowly

[@8_x_9.]

Moister & water condensation accumulations can be a problem!!@.Dry it ot occasionally 😉.

[@Wontjusz]

Great video. I have city pro since august, 1900 km on the clock. I had pretty much every problem with it possible. One of the worst things is the handlebars, each handle is connected to the middle unit by only one screw, I happened to lift my scooter with the handles over the curbs and that caused movement in handles over time, cannot tighten them threads must be damaged, It wouldn't last long for anyone jumping off the curbs. Poor design with the handles in my opinion. I would rather have solid handlebars. Btw my brake adjustment is completely rusted can't move it anymore :D Subscribed!

[@Bigazzham]

By the looks of things it's a hunk of junk. I think I will just pick up the original varla one.

[@Stryker123321]

@@BigazzhamAlmost 1k km on my varla eagle one, runs as great as the day I got it. Just get the rugged clamp and an extended mudguard for the rear.

[@TheSpanishInquisition87]

I came for the scooter review, and it was great, but DAMN! That guitar case is awesome!

[@zenovilhelm3564]

Great review. Wish others would be able to do same quality. Congratulations

[@jstewart627]

Sounds like a simple issue, the stem wobble, of where vibration is causing the adjusting screw to loosen. A little blue thread lock should fix that. On my Segway the mounting screws for the steering kept coming loose but the blue thread lock stopped that. Who knows if I ever will beable to remove thise screws now.

[@pauliusb]

Great review. It brings me more mess in my head considering between Segway P100s and Apollo CityPro. Nice work! Thank you.

[@lebojay]

19:18 Attach a flat, flexible piece of plastic to the back of the deck. There’s your improved fender.

[@WilliamMcGinty-n8t]

P.S. I’m mainly referring to the newest scooter line up models p65 p100 GT1 and GT2. As these are the ones that prompted me to research Segway scooters.

[@live688]

Awesome review, quite in depth and good production quality. I'm surprised this was your first scooter review on the channel Do you make videos outside of this channel?

[@live688]

Ah you do, found your Tech illiterate channel :p

[@nicthedoor]

Yeah, I plan on still making videos there once in a while. Thanks for the kind words.

[@freddyliu6866]

Great review. Safety and quality assurance should be the No.1 priority Apollo should aware

[@davidb9213]

I ended up chopping the city pro back in for an in motion s1. Obviously very different scooters (dual vs single etc) but have to say I’m miles more impressed with the S1’s build quality etc. no brainer for half the price IMO…

[@GoingNoWhereFast]

I love your pointing out the IP ratings on scooters. To say anything is a "Commuter" tool, it HAS to be IP66. Or "Off Road". How can anything be off-road and not be dust proof and water proof (well or IP66). I saw one reviewer saying its because the "plug & Play" connectors can't be IP66. As usually, most of the reviewers are not knowledgeable in what they are talking about. They are cheap infomercials! Great video, thank for doing such a great review. Wondering if anything you pointed out will change in 2024??

[@nicthedoor]

The 23' model fixed a lot of the issue with the scooter. As for their "sales" still the same.

[@GoingNoWhereFast]

@@nicthedoor I see that technique everywhere here in the states. People are just sheep wanting to think they are getting a deal!! Great Channel, Great Videos.

[@CathyMartinTBW]

Siupport from Apollo is pretty appaling, but finding a local service friend, like Fatwhip in Kitsilano, is a game changer. The unit is great, but Apollo's customer service sucks. Don't expect any help from them. As for self sealing tires... yeah, right! BTW the head now attaches with 4 strong screws.

[@PrzemyslawMazurek]

Great & honest review. To me the best I have ever seen on YT. This is what we are minssing tese days. Did you have a chnce to review Apollo Phanton V2? Do you have your opinion on this one? I am considering this one with an upgrade V3 kit. Would appriciate your opinion. I was conciderning City Pro, but not any more 😉 thnks to you 👍🏼

[@nicthedoor]

I have ridden the V2. Much more stable than the City pro but I found the throttle to be quite sensitive. The V3 is supposed to have a smoother throttle from what I hear. ...and thanks!

[@francisking1497]

I’ve ridden kqi3 pro for 1k miles and it’s been good the best scooter the only thing that broke was the kickstand other than that it’s one seriously good build quality scooter I can vouch for that

[@darrenjackson6207]

Awesome video bro and thanks for sharing .

[@hyperstimmed]

The cracking stems apparently had to do with the weld joint there and the newer stems look different

[@cliffli798]

I cant believe you only have so little sub, your channels quality rivals big channels

[@Volbx]

i also rode this ina thunderstorm and it was great

[@royieg2543]

Best review i have seen. Just bought a refurbished one for 1399 CAD, so not sure its a good price but it seems so. Wife is from Montreal so need to show support.

[@nicthedoor]

As long as it's in good shape that's a good price. I just reached 4000km this week. Time for new tires soon and there is certainly some rust on the rear brake from all the rain riding but otherwise rides like new.

[@royieg2543]

@@nicthedoor Apollo offers military discount, so got a new Apollo Go instead. The City Pro didn't ship yet, so they just swapped the order and ended up being cheaper with the discount. Will you be doing a review of the GO?

[@nicthedoor]

Unlikely to be doing specific reviews any more though it will likely show up in videos

[@buzzfree]

I really don't comment on KZbin videos but this is the best honest review I've ever seen so far. Thanks

[@AtilanoX1]

Thank you for this review. It was super informative

[@DonaldChia]

Thank you for a great review. I am not sure you did show on this video how to tighten the stem if it wobble, if not could you please advice the best way to stop this. Much appreciated.

[@nicthedoor]

Yes I posted a video a little while ago. Not high quality but it should help.

[@shizouka19]

Will you be reviewing Apollo City Pro 2023 later on? I honestly prefer this long term reviews. Apollo seem to address the concerns you have with 2023 iteration, but i still wanna see user reviews especially yours

[@MrSleep20013]

wait , iI left a skid mark 2 houses long just trying to use only drum on my mosquito, I'm scared of the front regen because I dont want to indo -- I broke my collar bone on it anyway but I still love it lol, now theres a flat spot on the solid tire that goes thunk thunk thunk, but since I can't read the gauge well it lets me know how fast I'm going

[@victorv1406]

Thanks for a great review! I once rode a friend's 900$ scooter that had a slightly stuck throttle issue. that wasn't a pleasant experience because it slowed the breaking. Since then I commited to buy one without any breaking and throttle issues because safety is priority for me. I think the scooters priced 2x times shouldn't have similar issues. I hope their 2023 upgrade will fix everything. A whoobly handlebar is the second one I'd fix before buying it. At the same time, I still wasn't able to find a decent alternative with same or better specs. So I'll be waiting and riding my bike meanwhile.

[@8_x_9.]

What about the P100S?

[@markerf16]

I'm willing to spend up to 1200 ... I want distance and a smooth ride. Speed - no big deal, but at least 20mph. At least 10 inch non solid tires. I returned a Ninebot max with a bad throttle. I have a Gotrax G4 and want something a little better as my main one. Any suggestions?

[@chrisdudley8366]

Yes I have one gotrax is coming out with the G6 model that's what you're looking for.

[@goofyahhh254]

completley agree on the water resistance rating, i'm in the UK and it's essential. Plus where i am, the distributor has 8 repair centres, 1 25 miles from me.

[@sergiolandz6056]

Man i must be blessed or something, im at 500km on my phantom and 0 issues what so ever. I do however check my scooter after every ride and make sure everything is good and tight.

[@miketayse]

Great review, thanks! I'm still shopping, and Apollo still looks ok, with qualifications, compared to others. Any other suggestions?

[@davidb9213]

Hey, how do you clean the suspension coils out of interest?! Other than hosing down I’m struggling! Any issues with front wheel / tyre squeaking when slowing down? Mine sounds like something making contact with tyre but nothing obvious having inspected….thanks!

[@nicthedoor]

I honestly just spray it with water. You can crud in there even after I cleaned it. Maybe a brush would do the trick but I've just said F it and will see what happens with the way I clean it.

[@davidb9213]

Great thanks - what lubricant do you use and do you spray wd40 before applying It?

[@nicthedoor]

@@davidb9213 I occasionally spray WD-40, leave it for an hour or so and then use white lithium grease (wd-40 brand) it's just what I had at home. I think Apollo recommends jig-a-loo. Silicon based lubricant

[@PlayGerri]

The whole reason why I would like to purchase a city pro is because of the water rating. I own a Apollo Ghost (I love it btw) but the weather is ridiculous here in Australia & I can't predict the weather. The barrings I know would need to be replaced due to me riding in the inclement weather. & it's not easy to do

[@nicthedoor]

Yeah, I've have it for a year now riding in plenty of rain and there is still no sign of water damage. +2600km. I'm glad their other offerings mostly have the same rating but I'd like to see other manufacturers follow suit.

[@marekmarek6772]

Great review👍

[@capcom4eva]

Is the Apollo city recommended for 2024? Went with the Ninebot max g2 last summer, over this. You’re making me feel I made the right choice. However I do wish I could upgrade my suspension, without spending an exorbitant amount of money or doing larger than necessary my max mod kits. Just an added dampener and rubber stopper might suffice. What do you think? 🤔

[@fergusobrien7963]

In the end there's not a single escooter that can be improved or has problems/design flaws, especially after time -- am curious to see what you would recommend instead.. happily they have a new update re. display, folding latch, kickstand, front turn signals, sticky throttle...

[@nicthedoor]

It's still my daily driver. Over 2000 km now. Honestly if the P100S works out the gremlins it might be my top pick.

[@8_x_9.]

@niclaporte How come? How's the sudden an unexpected regen brake kick in? So that's gone ? This is my make or brake decision to buy or not of this scooter. Looks like you don't have problems with it or do you? Any buyers remorse? Thanks.

[@nicthedoor]

@@8_x_9. No, I haven't had any issues like that with the brake again. I haven't used it a whole lot since summer began. I prefer to cycle in the nice weather. At about 2200km now. I am still happy with it and I may get the upgrade kit though I am disappointment that there is no way to upgrade the locking mechanism.

[@vwbora26]

The new Apollo Pro should be their best commuter but will cost 3 times the cost of the City.

[@AlderaansRanger]

Is this a good scooter company? I have heard good and bad things about Apollo with some people saying they make great scooters and others saying they got scooters with major defects and the support service is almost nonexistent.

[@nicthedoor]

I have heard mixed things as well. I have had a good experience with their customer service. They do seem to be one of the good ones, for the most part.

[@coryclaassen9843]

Do you believe these gremlins have been addressed at this point during production of the current generation 2022 Apollo City Pro? Or, do you still recommend waiting for the next updated version? Should we expect a 2023 update to the Apollo City Pro? Do you continue to struggle with the neck clamp?

[@nicthedoor]

I do have to tighten the folding mechanism but not often. There should be a 2023 kit on the way very soon. I would wait.

[@scottworcester2693]

Nick, great vid! Is there the ability to add a side mirror to the left grip like I have on my regular bike to see people/cars behind and to left of me?

[@nicthedoor]

Absolutely. I have seen folks add them.

[@scottworcester2693]

so there is screw in capability as is? no new grips needed? thanks!

[@strayavr3665]

Is this the 2022 model? The light has been replaced on the 2023 model

[@WilliamMcGinty-n8t]

Dude you keep mentioning the Segway, as so many reviewers do, but I’ve read horror stories about Segway scooters and the abysmal customer service. No replacement parts especially for those weird size tires you mentioned (10.5”vs10”). And scooters from Segway that don’t even function out of the box. Google it.

[@youjib]

hey review the max G2, could be a not yet pick also.

[@KBlade1]

Do rainstorms help you with the cleaning?

[@nicthedoor]

Only if it's really dirty. Usually rain means more pickup off the road for me. It's been better though since the streets have been cleaned.

[@KBlade1]

@@nicthedoor It's good that it's been better, but I definitely see how the rain wetness can attract dirt. Is it waterproof enough to clean with a hose?

[@nicthedoor]

@@KBlade1 In my experience, yes. I clean it in the bathtub and use the showerhead to spray it down. I opened it up a little while ago, even the motors, no issues.

[@robo1989]

Wobble issue is still there in 2024 upgraded model?

[@NunchucksHabit]

The 2022 Ghost is like you'd say, good dual motors, ok suspension & more speed than is remotely safe. The Ghost remains a "startup quality" scooter that is simply not meant for serious, daily riding. Every bolt will come loose after a few rides. Grab a 5mm Allan key & go around the scooter, re-tighten them all, 2 or 3 more rides, repeat. The brakes are awful. They're bicycle-level parts slapped on something that goes (slow) motorcycle speeds. Hit a puddle, the brakes are exposed & will absorb everything you ride over. The stock tires are almost guaranteed to go flat if you ride over anything but smooth tarmac. If a gravel walkway or the odd bump are in your future, order your tires now. If you want to buy anything from them, you've got the choice of $25 shipping....or nothing. Want 2 $10 brake pads? That'll be $50, please. Immediately buy replacement tires, preferably ones with better grip, and pour in that no-flat liquid to prevent flats. Be ready with some very strong clamps when putting new tires on and keep your tires inflated exactly to the PSI recommended. The charging cable provided is ok, but the charging ports (there are two for no reason at all, only one can be used at once) are poorly located along the side of the base, with only an incredibly cheap flap of rubber to cover each port. Support can be very good (start a chat from their website), or it can be bad (try to reach them through email - it could be a day, it could be 3. They're persistent with asking you to rate the service. They've got a couple of helpful KZbin vids on how to change tires & adjust brakes, but there's no support for beginners on what accessories to get, why, and who can fix your scooter if you don't live near a repair center. The kickstand is really cheap, but it works so far. The LED readout with battery/drive mode info is really dim, especially on bright days. The 'ECO' button is a ridiculous waste of time. The button to switch from single to dual motor is really cheap - it works, but there's no feedback on whether it's been pressed since it tends to line up with the 'ECO' button. There are two small lights on the front of the foot board that have never worked on mine. In fact, I still have no idea how they turn on, if ever. Buy yourself an extra set of tires, tubes, a couple of bicycle lights, a helmet, a bike lock, a high quality set of metric allan keys, perhaps a battery powered electric air pump. The rest of the components, as long as you tighten the bolts holding them on frequently, are good. The Ghost is "illegal" in almost every province in Canada due to existing but ancient laws, but most cops will leave you alone. Just remember, you're not a vehicle, you're not a pedestrian. Walk the thing across crosswalks, and yes, if you go 50km/h in a 30km/h school zone, you can & should get a ticket. These things are NOT for children & if you ride them stoned or drunk, you get a DUI. The floorboard is not trunkspace & the front steering column is not something you hang bags from. These things are almost silent. Having a dumb bicycle bell on them might seem like a waste of handlebar space, but the bell is very handy to make sure people hear you & it's actually required by law.

[@ThujanK]

I was going to buy this scooter for 1250$ cad but all these issues make me want to pass. I already had 2 apollo phantoms which were plagued with issues and two apollo cities with dead batteries. Warranty is a joke with Apollo. The company doesn't seem like it changed for the better at all.

[@CourtneyBernard]

Amazing video wow

[@mcraven747]

Lol im watching this and also realizing that Apollo is currently having a Black Friday sale when its not Black Friday...

[@TheSuperSpecialOne]

Good review. Sad to see there are so many gremlins that ruin the potential of this scooter. Poor design and specs are a deal breaker at this price range.

[@SmSm-bv7fs]

great honest review

[@ovenheating9482]

I was looking at the apollo explore a few weeks ago and noticed i cant find it on the website anymore unless i check the refurbished section where its still available for around $800. Anytime i click on links related to the explore it takes me to the city 2022 so i became interested in that one instead. After watching this video and a few others im thinking i should go for something different. Im looking for something reliable and repairable so i can make sure it last a few years. I purchased a gotrax rival a few years ago and have put over 4000 miles on it riding to and from work every day. I spent less than $400 for it new and it has held up strong just needing some new tires so my expectations for a $1000+ scooter are pretty high. Anyone have any opinions about refurbished scooters? Im considering buying one of the refurbished apollo explores but im curious what someone experienced when they got a refurbished scooter.

[@nicthedoor]

What are you using it for? My fried has had his explore for a few years. Can't do any wet conditions. I suspect refurb will be good, might be some cosmetic issues.

[@ovenheating9482]

@@nicthedoor just commuting to and from work daily. 1 small hill along the way the rest is smooth flat surfaces. About 5 miles each way so around 10 miles a day. I sometimes get caught in the rain though so im really interested in the water resistance of the city 22 and think i just might give that one a try. Thanks for the response and great video helping me make my decision.

[@ovenheating9482]

@@nicthedoor update. i purchased the scooter and then me and 2 other riders were hit by a car. We were crossing at a cross walk and the guy turned into us. My scooter was swept under the car and took the cars full weight and then it started pouring rain and hailing while we were in the ambulance so the scooter just sat through it. It snapped the left handlebar off and bent the stem. Scooter still works though and is a freaking tank to take the full weight of a car and still survive. Loved it the 2 days I had it lol. Will Hopefully repair this one if not will buy another one day. I emailed the company they are out of the parts I need unfortunately so I'm not sure when I could get parts to get it fixed. Thinking of attempting a repair that will get it up and running for now but I'm not sure if that's going to be possible with the amount of damage. Thanks for the $50 discount code that I was able to use anyways lol. I don't think I was meant to have this scooter though. First FedEx delivered it to the wrong house and I had to wait over a week before i was able to get it and thought I was just going to be screwed and now this happened lol. At least im alive.

[@nicthedoor]

@@ovenheating9482 Holy shit. Glad you're ok. Hopefully you can get it repaired!

[@8_x_9.]

@ovenheating9482 All the best to you.Sorry to hear about it. Ride safe.Thx

[@jessesaffold1165]

get the kalima

[@Tooradj]

The fake sale happens with distributors as well. Best Buy in U.S. had a count down clock that ended last night but the next day, the price is still $300 off. It seems like the actual price for City dual motor as of this post is $1500. Anything more is a tax on stupid. Anything less is a real sale.

[@renes613]

Where did you get that gopro to garmin edge mount? I want one.

[@nicthedoor]

Amazon has some options. My light came with it.

[@pevns]

great video

[@pevns]

i never ride in rain, just recreationally in the summer so am fine with the ghost and phantoms ip54 rating, but just got a wolf warrior x which is ipx5 and a great price for 60v 4kw, nimble scoot

[@MythicNinja]

This was great

[@abracadabra3814]

My first scooter ever was an appolo…i wouldn’t recommend appolo…..then i got a kaabo

[@pevns]

Can’t recommend or spell Apollo*

[@citytouchstudios1144]

When a company plays with the sales integrity in the product slims up a bunch I don’t like the false sales pitching at all

[@technikservice4786]

Good job 👍 Thank You

[@steviewonder5764]

why don't you review the inokim oxo electric scooter. thanks.

[@nicthedoor]

I am mostly done with reviews though scooters and ebikes will likely feature in a review like style from time to time.

[@mikehagquist5198]

I can’t make a negative video on Facebook. Apollo go was clunky out the box. I made a video and it got denied to post. Yes I fixed it with just lube and a driver.

[@jamescashmore1452]

jews hate the truth

[@8_x_9.]

That cracked stem looks like a cheap aluminum alloy or thin still covered with aluminum or plastick!!!?????😮.Looks like a nice & smothly contured "molded" material.😊 It shouldn't have cracked at all!!😮

[@brianbeedavis]

Was the mystery scooter outline at around 20:00 an emove cruiser?

[@nicthedoor]

No, but that would certainly fit the bill.

[@gameshoes]

I have many of the same issues you're having except for the regen braking during a ride. Instead of that, for me, when I'm riding with the app open, the app will "lock" the scooter mid ride. So it ain't braking but I ain't accelerating either so I just have to stop, unlock the scooter from the app, switch to sport mode, and go. So because of this I obviously don't use the app anymore. It's a shame that the lock feature wasn't working as intended for me. It's honestly a good idea to prevent thieves from just riding off with my scooter. But if it's locking on me while I'm riding, it's no good. I also had an out-of-the-box issue to and had to wait a few weeks for a replacement handlebar. Thankfully they were responsive and they were able to assist me during holiday week (Thanksgiving) in the US. For problems like mine, I do feel that this and others would have been solved with proper QAQC. You see this in every industry. When business people want money fast, or an unreasonably short time table (which is still more money), they cut QAQC. Then we as customers end up with problems that have to be fixed. It's fortunate that Apollo actually addresses the issues. If you read the warranty and servicing pages of these newly emerging escooter and ebike companies, it's bad. They won't do squat for you. But Apollo is, so... there's some points for them. ADDED: But Apollo is still very limited in their willingness for cover things under warranty. Their warranty stuff is pretty strict. To add onto your shady business practice thing, Apollo sent me an email to review their product with the note of a "gift" once I do. I didn't respond to that email, and I have not made a review. But isn't that practice what got a lot of companies in trouble with their Amazon reviews? Like you ended your video with, it's not my intention to bash on Apollo either. I think they've got a pretty solid product here and it's working for me.

[@8_x_9.]

Hey you just be honest!!! According to your comment it doesn't sound like it's a solid product.🤣. Apollo overall is a7/10. Product & customer relations....etc.

[@ecod7r]

I am between Navi burn E (next release) or Appollo Pro (when it comes out finally).

[@qjtvaddict]

Maintenance is easier on electric skateboards than E-scooters

[@ukaszabecede7536]

Can i buy this in Europe?

[@nicthedoor]

I believe so.

[@johntorre1213]

This is by no means portable weighting 65 LB.

[@nicthedoor]

Probably middle weight. I would like it to be lighter for sure.

[@winniepeg2020]

I'll stick with my inmotion S1 lol

[@Folsomdsf2]

oh dear god, please never use wd40 as lubricant for your scooter ever again please.

[@nicthedoor]

It is WD-40 brand white lithium grease. I also have the WD-40 silicon lubricant

[@8_x_9.]

TheApollo can get it together untill all those faults & complaints!!! They always have to be reminded like a bad student. They prematurly release products!!! Just to grab your hard earned money!!! Grow up & start to be professional APOLLO. Not a very good record you guys!!! What a bloody mess with the fenders! Can't get it right after all those complaints!!! Come on you guys! We gave to fix all the problems you create??? You'll have a big law suit if an accident happen with the regen brake comes on very hard during riding!!! Can't you eliminate that russian roulette problem??? We must wait until this city pro becomes safe to ride. Most people ride with gloves on yet Can't easily controll the system! What the hell is that? So going with the Sagway P100S. A responsible Pro company