The TRUTH About the Seattle Mariners and T-Mobile Park

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Mike Petriello released an eye opening article about the Mariners home ball park T-Mobile park. This unveiled a lot of talking points about just how hard it is to hit in Seattle.
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[@OneNTwentyOneMillion]

On the T-mobile issue, the huge scoreboard was added in for the 2013 season. Since then the team batting average is way down and the strikeouts are way up. Especially the strikeouts. I think its a combination of the crooked batters eye and the ginormous scoreboard.

[@DeidaraOfTheAkatsuki]

You know you’re down bad when you dedicate a whole segment on Mariners Twitter lunch table. That’s crazy Edit* NVM THIS WAS AN AMAZING SEGMENT. I can’t believe I’m invited to the non-invited table. Truly an honor to have.

[@bigjared8946]

Very good to elite hitters handle it fine. Edgar, Ichiro, Nellie hit fine here. The problem is how it can crush guys who are below that level. I wish they would make the batter's eye straight and see what that does.

[@JohnCaillie]

Thank you for addressing the T-Mobile Park issue. Hitters go there to die. The mentality of sacrificing K-rate for power DOES NOT WORK THERE. Yes, this is a huge advantage for our pitchers, but they need to get hitters that can get on base and manufacture runs. They were one of the worst offenses of all-time last year & still finished 1 game out of the playoffs. Even a below average offense would be good enough with this pitching staff.

[@joshestes6427]

So I think this compounds with the perception of management too! If you are a free agent who is considering two teams, would you choose the place where you are going to lower your value because your hitting numbers drop, the team doesn't keep players they sign constantly trading them away to save money and are not motivated to win. You lose the players looking for money, the guys who want to win, and anybody who is a loyalty guy. You literally just cut all but desperate players who have had down years and sign one year contracts. Frustrating!

[@gaberobison680]

These players have basically infinite money, they are set for life provided they don’t waste it

[@joshestes6427]

@@gaberobison680 sorry I was wondering what the relevance of this comment was to my original comment?

[@WaytoDawn91]

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[@gaberobison680]

The fears about the stadium are wrong. Because it’s all relative, we still know the park better than anybody else and thus it still provides an edge. But it does need a new batters eye and maybe some outfield tweaks

[@Lyrici17]

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[@calfusion9287]

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[@MarinerMojoOfficial]

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[@T_pain24]

Do you guys know if anything was addressed at t mobile park for the hitting woes? Like trying to fix the batters eye

[@harrysmusicroom]

Stop going to the games! Stop giving them your $$ They dont care if they have a winning team, as long as you continue to support losers.

[@TheAura448]

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[@modder15]

Just as oldtypes have their souls weighed down by gravity so does gravity weigh down flyballs in t mobile park.

[@niXonc0x]

Maybe Stanton will be inspired by the generous spending of your fan(s)!

[@MarinerMojoOfficial]

We can only hope he sees how much the fanbase wants to win and how supportive they are❤️

[@cesarvigil9563]

I don’t think this is something that the Mariners aren’t familiar with I think that is why the strikeouts are so high because players are trying to hit the ball hard. This is probably why the marines should double down on the F-you bullpen and try and ride pitching to the advantage

[@TheEWFX29]

This is why you wont trade Castillo. People in Seattle think he is a top line pitcher still but look at his home/road splits and you see why teams trading for him consider him more of a salary dump then a great pitcher. So you are only going to get deals that are reflecting that thinking. Thinking you are going to get a haul for him are just not realistic. The trade that was proposed from Boston was your best return you will get. You might get a decent player (eq, Ryan McMahon type) and a lower end prospect at best especially if the team is taking on that contract. So now you will have a decent pitcher in your rotation at home but that is all you will have. And one less year of time will only make the offers lessen. This was the chance to move something to get something. I see the Mariners regressing and becoming a more closer to .500 team unless you can get better offense on that team.

[@gaberobison680]

He’s above decent lol. We just have absurd expectations for players these days given how inflated contracts are

[@TheEWFX29]

@@gaberobison680 Did you see what he pitched in most other parks besides his home field.

[@Michael-id9bw]

I get a kick out of some people saying that the ballpark factor is BS because the 2001 ballclub had no issues hitting there. Baseball was different back then. Averages were much higher across the entire league compared to today's game, and pitchers are on another level today. And even that season most of the players hit better on the road. Mike Cameron hit .220 at home and over .300 on the road. And that team had two hall of famers and some of the more elite hitters this club has ever had. I absolutely believe in the T-Mobile effect.

[@scottgrohs5940]

I don’t - and think it’s an excuse most of the time. If it was a Marine Layer issue, then why don’t we hear about similar issues at Oracle Park in San Francisco or Petco Park in San Diego? If you cite colder temperatures, then that would only be true for 1/3 to 1/2 of the season. July through October is comparably warm in Seattle. If it’s an issue with the batter’s eye, then the fix is reshaping and repainting that specific section of stadium in the offseason. It seems like an excuse that allows the team’s failures to accurately assess the offensive trajectories of the players they acquire before signing.

[@scottgrohs5940]

*justifies

[@Michael-id9bw]

​@@scottgrohs5940 Oracle Park and Petco Park are crappy hitters parks as well. Oracle was ranked #26, Petco #29, and T-Mobile #30 as worst hitters parks last season. T-Mobile has been ranked last for years. All of the players that say how difficult it is to hit at T-Mobile are not lying. Teoscar has the worst year of his career here then goes to LA and has one of his best. Adrian Beltre never figured T-Mobile out then went to Texas and had some amazing seasons. T-Mobile ranked dead last in doubles and triples last season. The club had more than 30 more doubles on the road than at home. It's not an excuse when there are so many facts to back it up.

[@usveteran9893]

Here, let me piss off a bunch of fans. Before you fix the batter's eye, Trade the pitching staff for prospects and load the farm system. Then you are saving lots of money [yey for John Stanton], and with the savings, you will also be able to get some good players. Now that you have done that, it is time to fix the batters eye. Fixing the batter's eye as the first thing will inflate the current pitching staff, and they will be less valuable [hench you trade them before fixing the batter's eye].

[@SpencerGraf-sj4ot]

The ballpark is why the M’s need to make a habit of signing pitching, since pitchers want to come here, and drafting hitting, since FA hitters do not.

[@Passionately44]

Completely agree. We need to use our hitting prospects as well because I think we could fair better that way.

[@brenden084]

We need to collectively as fans organize a protest against this astros fan owner John Stanton. We cant do this anymore, we have the resources and money to make bigger moves to improve this team and actually go for a ring. This has to stop I cant take it.

[@Allgoodhandlesaretaken81]

I'm sitting with Jen for sure only because I'm a simp for her. If she says no, then Im sitting with you boys out in the hallway.

[@schlootle]

2.85 ERA at home and 4.18 ERA on the road yeesh thats quite the descrepency. Taking a look at the Astros for comparison they have 3.66 home and 3.88 road. And most other teams are within .20 ERA of home/road. T mobile doing some heavy lifting

[@connormclaughlin6079]

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[@MarinerMojoOfficial]

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[@kyleloney4191]

The home road splits are massively misleading. While they do pitch better at home, but they were great on the road except the few games Servais hung his pitchers out to dry cause he didn’t want overtax the bullpen.

[@thriced2619]

Donovan Solano at T-Mobile in 33 PA's: .379/.455/.448 with a .903 OPS. Mitch Garver in his first 33 PA's in T-Mobile: .[phone] OPS 0.060 😮 I think I like my chances with Solano for 81 home games this year over Garver.

[@PrimaIsTired]

Episode 26 of asking for "The Brandon Drury episode"

[@Zach-ls1if]

Jesus christ just make the stadium quirky like Fenway or Houston, bring in right or left field like 60 feet, then change the batters eye. Who cares how dumb it looks, fenway looks really dumb to people who see it for the first time.