The Truth About This Controversy, David Dobrik, Female Gamer Backlash, AOC, USPS, Fall Guys, & More

[@PhilipDeFranco]

Also for those wondering, personally my favorite game is the calculator app on iOS.

[@kshyy]

Too bad it has In-App Purchases!

[@dagelijksedosisinternet3591]

This has to be the whitest joke i've heard this month

[@whatdoyousuppose]

good choice! tho personally to me the Flashlight might be more of an entertaining title. just girly things ✌️

[@mobubbler]

What about the Calendar App? Shameful Phil

[@haileyrobins9026]

Best game ever!!! I mean all the options with the app!!!!

[@Poisonouscosmic]

"free games that women love!" "sims 4" has this lady...never looked up the sims 4? Cause honey it *really* isn't cheap if you actually want it to be fun

[@theadoramcphee9085]

It was free with ps plus a few months back so maybe that's where she got her reference from

[@Poisonouscosmic]

@@theadoramcphee9085 still, it was only the base game and the Sims is rarely as fun without expansions unfortunately

[@rai1879]

@@Poisonouscosmic mods! I have plenty of fun making my sims addicts and killing them 😂 only have base game and cats and dogs.

[@iPhoneAppReviewer]

Wait, people actually pay for The Sims?

[@prismasaur2799]

@@iPhoneAppReviewer Keep it secret. Keep it safe.

[@santasnoopy456]

If 2020 had a manager or a PR team I can imagine their slogan being “We are sorry 2020 hasn’t lived up to the expectations everyone had for us we promise to do better”

[@OpalMonkey.]

Haaa... yup. I'm getting really sick of hearing "we promise to do better" after so many things that everyone already knew were unacceptable. Such a BS PR line at this point.

[@FishoD]

Oh man the “I’m sorry I didn’t live ip to your expectations.” is 100% the most fucking passive aggresive bullshit and has been used in way too many apologies.

[@LinDotson]

Don't forget "we want to assure you that the events of 2020 do not reflect what we believe or what we stand for."

[@estherkirakawaii]

There's no easy way to say we're sorry. People learn from their mistakes, and that what we'll do. - 2020 PR Team

[@krotoxx]

We are deeply sorry. kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z2arhZdqitJko5Y

[@newengland707]

I literally know nothing about David Dobrik aside from the fact that Phil wants to adopt him and may end up wearing his face one day.

[@TheSnivilous]

No kidding, I've literally never seen him mentioned or pop up anywhere except on this channel. Absolutely zero idea who he is or why he matters.

[@olivebranch7769]

@@TheSnivilous I mean, the dude's got over 18 million subscribers and almost 8 billion views, he's pretty relevant as far as KZbin news goes.

[@davidolubiyi5997]

@@TheSnivilous that's crazy he's one of the biggest you tubers right now

[@RtistiqSkubie]

@@olivebranch7769 those numbers may be true but I NEVER hear of Dobrik anywhere BUT PDS, however I hear of Mr.Beast everywhere & they're damn near in the same circle.

[@cinditas87]

The only other time I've heard of him is when he was accused of being racist. I guess that didn't go far if he's still a big YTber and Phil loves him.

[@hillaryfrazier307]

When I used to work at GameStop, one of the questions I got asked by customers most often was "What's a good game for a girl to play?" After a while, I just started saying "Grand Theft Auto, if you set your mind to it."

[@zolthetroll]

My favorite game will always be skyrim. I refuse to pass up the opportunity to become invisible, steal everything possible, and then sell it back to who you stole it from

[@naruhina1997]

I always just responded with whatever game I was currently playing. Usually an RPG with amazing character creation.

[@AppleJuiceStudios]

I used to just ask “Well, what games does she like?”

[@kurlozmakara4194]

@@zolthetroll oh man morrowwind was the first game I ever bought. The only other game I owned was bratz, that my mum routinely bought cause its the only game that had 'for girls' on it

[@coffeegirl18]

I usually tell my girl friends to play Life is Strange or Fallout 4. I play a ton of FPS.

[@user-zn4dp9cs7z]

Can’t we all just be gamers instead of women being a sub category? I mean we’re all just people who love playing video games.

[@Superman5o5]

Preach

[@wmdkitty]

Not to mention we don't all fall neatly into binary gender categories.

[@willhouston4487]

I agree with your sentiment 1000%.

[@rejectedsoul9191]

Exactly. If people would stop pushing gender and race into everything, we would finally start making a better future. Instead, people would rather return to the past and group everyone by their sex or race and blame everyone else for their oppression. Just stop talking about it.

[@glowinggrenade]

@@rejectedsoul9191 I dunno about that, remember how equal everyone was socially before the internet? The platform that is built on talking about things? Also I agree with OP except there should be more representation

[@leon46295]

"we posted something that doesn't represent what we believe" THEN WHY DID YOU POST IT?

[@remliqa]

I thought only trolls do this.

[@BoolyK]

Cole Weede companies are companies because they employ people to represent their brand, hence the question of why they post it. You don’t think they just fart out random posts, do you?

[@leon46295]

@@BoolyK *PFFFFFT* sorry I couldn't hear you over my posting. What you say?

[@BoolyK]

leon musial are you... a company?

[@kal.e.4556]

@@BoolyK _the plot thickens_

[@hostilebuffalo]

the fact that a woman wrote that article is both hilarious and depressing

[@frostfang1]

It's like she didnt get help from anyone but was still expected to write the article based solely on her being a woman, and then she just looked up what her google play store recommended list was.

[@Dashierez]

Sadly it's often the worst and most damaging stereotypes that are self enforced within a demographic.

[@teenyweenyfettuccine3532]

that's some hardcore 'pick me choose me love me' energy

[@DMCpawn]

I was like "gurl, do you have no women as friend to ask for opinions?????"

[@bullzai018]

I feel like Men should apologize...unironically

[@ONLYJOKING101]

I feel sorry for author of the games list because she was probably given that article to write by an editor on a topic she knew little about.

[@MARTYMEINEKE53]

Yea probably. But why not say you dont know about that subject. As a professional repair shop we do it all the time. It is better to be honest then to lie and piss off people.

[@david-du9gc]

Do we have statistics thats my only question? She said its what they ARE. playing. So is it true? Is she actually wrong? Or is her list her top 10? I think thats a fair question.

[@spiderjeranimo4992]

It's almost like she copy and pasted an article from 20 years ago and just replaced some of the games.

[@ONLYJOKING101]

@@MARTYMEINEKE53 Maybe she didn't have a choice. Shes probably a very junior writer.

[@MARTYMEINEKE53]

@@ONLYJOKING101 that is on her to tackle tasks brought before her. You are paid to report and look into issues. So sad to bad. Do your job or learn to code.

[@katelynhanson3324]

I just play games I'm not a "gamer girl" or "girl gamer". Like how strange would it be if we referred to male gamers as "boy gamers" or "guy gamers".

[@luisroman2144]

It’s already a thing called eboy and egirl

[@jobansand]

Me me gamer boi.

[@harper.the.confused]

I just call them gamer boys

[@The_Evening_Sun]

Do people actually still use the term Gamer Girl unironically? I mean except for the woman who wrote that article

[@seansuarez772]

Gamer man here. I take no offense to this

[@Thetallgoofyone]

I think where E3 messed up was including phone games, which is a different demographic of gamers. I play shooting, racing, and adventure on my console but puzzle, strategy, and learning on my phone. My sister-in-law plays watch dogs, mario cart and Fuzion frenzy and my exes played smash bros, modern warfare, and halo. They should have had 3 different categories. Console, PC, and mobile.

[@cyborgchick8448]

That’s a good point. I play puzzle games on my phone, Sims on my PC and lots of violent and action games on Xbox and PlayStation. I didn’t notice when I read the article but you’ve definitely got a point.

[@Hippopotalust]

That is where you think they messed up? Not the blatant sexism? Cool story, bro.

[@fritzler12]

First.. this is wrong... Mobile Gaming is the biggest market atm - for male and female Second ... it's true that u shouldn't stereotype female gaming but its a FACT that Candy Crush Saga is the most played game by far by females... --- Marketshare wise ... meaning in TOTAL NUMBERS

[@adanice49]

Julian Mayer it’s the biggest because of the sheer number of apps. That doesn’t mean it should be grouped in with PC and console games. Also, ignoring Candy Crush, saying “women like Overwatch because of the female ‘heroes’” or “diamonds are a girls best friend” is what caused outrage. Why use stereotypes to explain why women would possibly like certain games? Can’t a game just be fun in and of itself for both genders?

[@k1ck8ss]

Adan A the diamonds quote was definitely a bit of a stretch on her end. I think the Overwatch quote sounds worse than it is. Like when you play assassins creed, you feel immersed as an actual assassin. I think she was trying to make the point like you could relate or feel like character of your own gender easier. Maybe this is a personal thing for me but, as a man, I don’t get the same connection if I’m playing a female character compared to a male character

[@DustyyBoi]

"kim kardashian: hollywood adventures" would be a sick GTA single player dlc

[@sarahpatterson7458]

You know what? Fuck it. I'd play that dlc. xD

[@aname5078]

Eww gta?? Don’t ruin Kim Kardashian: Hollywood adventures

[@DustyyBoi]

@@aname5078 yeah, honestly they would probably turn down the violence to fit gta's story

[@Ayveh]

NAHHh that's a pass for me, I REFUSE to support her and her gold digging sisters.

[@adopteddivide31]

Shut up and take my money

[@RealElongatedMuskrat]

That part with "diamonds are a girls best friend, am I right ladies?" made part of my soul leave my body.

[@thedustbunny161]

I'm a guy and that made ME cringe. Yikes.

[@navins11]

Hahahahaha, but isn't it true?

[@AxxLAfriku]

GAGAGAGAGAGAGA I just saw something very unpretty! I looked in the mirror! GAGAGAGAGAGAGA!! But I am the cool KZbinr with two hazardously hot girlfriends so IT is all good! Thanks for you attention dear 3lon

[@CupcakeBrianna]

@@navins11 Only when I'm playing Minecraft

[@imdansullivan]

i'm going broke. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fZnFfnd6d5idhbc i'm so sick.

[@Arcticstar0]

I feel like “girls who play games” got confused with “girl gamers”.

[@Hardlythere]

100%

[@madisonpullen5015]

Sudoku?????????

[@Liquessen]

At the same time, where does the line go between the two?

[@tobiassoriano9788]

And they're different than "gamer girls"

[@mesientogut6701]

@@madisonpullen5015 Sudoku is a bop tho

[@Izzy-orc]

As a female gamer, that list is the most condescending thing I have ever seen in my life. I don't play overwatch because it has female heroes PSHHHHHH. I play because of all the cosmetics :3 Edit: Glad I sparked this conversation! Didn't think I would get this much traction. If you guys want to see the content I make, head over to my YT channel. Just search Izzyaxelblade on YT. I am the account with the heart logo. I posted a Rogue Company stream highlight a few days ago. I would give you guys a link but I don't want to be sketchy. I know, I know, SHAMELESS plug.

[@batalorian7997]

It's like "journalists" think certain people only play games when characters represent their race, gender, or sexual orientation.

[@Izzy-orc]

Batalorian people cant just like things anymore without some political reason behind it. It’s sad

[@timsas]

But those are the most popular games with women, maybe your gender just has a shit taste?

[@Izzy-orc]

@@timsas Oh lord here they come

[@menkaragamble8175]

As I male gamer, I concur that the only reason to play games is for virtual dress up.

[@Clay64]

Um where the hell is Mary Kate and Ashley: Magical Mystery Mall on that “list”?

[@braalkmath]

It filled the gap until I waited to begin,the adventure of my life in the land of skyrim

[@madhippy3]

What a repulsive snub by E3

[@brandonc5074]

Thats because all genders play that game at the same rate

[@coleycole77]

😂😂😂😂

[@jenniferdevalue5826]

The comments section already built a better female gendered game list than the article

[@ninjalemurdude]

"1. Soduko" Oh. Oh no... Also, why is there an online version of sudoku called Soduko? That bothers me so much.

[@mikehauncho4874]

Was Phil low-key attacking women who play Soduko, and calling them robots to an E3 game list? What if smart and informed women are choosing to play Soduko? They are not EXTREME enough? They don't have a Twitch channel, so they should only be amplifying the super minority of hardcore gamer girls?

[@willtheprodigy3819]

Because even though girls have different interests than men, we’re not allowed to talk about that.

[@shadowsoul121]

Yeah I thought yikes too when Phil said sudoku was number one... I like sudoku but prefer to do it on paper lol as for gaming I only play pretty casually but that list still seemed a little off to me... I'm surprised there wasn't any mmo's, rpg's, or visual novels... Women can and often do like more than one type of game idk I'm rambling lol

[@merrin1341]

@@mikehauncho4874 People already know that women enjoy puzzle games, and I doubt most women who play ONLY those games consider themselves "gamers". The problem is that it is perpetuating stereotypes in game culture, and delegitimizing the fact that women who do consider themselves "gamers" have a wide range of interests when it comes to game types. I enjoy Sudoku, but if anyone were to ask me my favourite games to play it would never cross my mind because things like Sudoku are universally enjoyed, regardless of whether the people who enjoy them are in the gaming community or not. "Girl gamers" are not all hardcore nor that much of a minority, there are a lot of women who love games of all sorts and seeing a list that is half generic puzzle games is kind of a slap in the face for all the women who play other games and are still fighting to be included when it comes to video game discussion. Game choice has nothing to do with intelligence, but let's not pretend like Bejewled, Sudoku, etc are even mentioned at E3, nor are the women who are actively watching E3 likely to be playing/focusing on those games. That's the issue here, know your audience. The girl games watching E3 watch it because they love all kinds of games.

[@adanice49]

Mike Hauncho no one is shitting on the people who like sudoku, but it still shouldn’t be on a list of “games that ____ play”. It’s like putting Word Search and Crosswords on that list, everyone enjoys them as a casual pass-time, why specifically attach it to women? I’m sure a large portion of men play those games, why aren’t they on the list for “games men play”?

[@GummyDinosaursify]

Ah yes, another "Women like this thing" article in which their research came from facebook and twitter.

[@asalways1504]

That article might as well have begun with "How do you do fellow kids?"

[@ShadowLynx777]

I'm surprised it didn't include "But don't play too much your husband wants you doing chores"

[@imdansullivan]

i'm going broke. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fZnFfnd6d5idhbc this is just crazy to me.

[@Drghost1235]

@@imdansullivan Just stop

[@Roadkill101010]

Watching this while on my lunch break as a city letter carrier for the USPS, it seems to me that DaJoie doesn’t have sinister plans in terms of election interference (though I could be wrong), but his appointment seems to be in the long term to cripple the USPS and make us seem like a failed agency and move towards privatization. People underestimate the importance of the USPS to very rural regions of this country, as well as its communal benefit to the people of this country. John Oliver did a pretty good piece on this that I recommend everyone watch if you haven’t yet, but thank you Phil for talking about us!

[@TheAwesomeness1123]

Benjamin Why not both? He’s purposely trying to sabotage the USPS in order to hinder it and encourage privatization which his stock in private logistic companies, but also helping Trump in the process which is why it’s being allowed to happen

[@enderwiggins8248]

You can’t say games aren’t gendered and then gender them by saying “diamonds are a girl’s best friend”, that’s both pandering and hypocritical. Gendering games is so stupid because gender as a way to categorize people is stupid. Women can enjoy whatever things they want, men can enjoy whatever things they want, enbies and people w/o gender can enjoy whatever things they want. Reinforcing stereotypes only serves to slow equality, because while its fine to love stereotypical things, it’s not fine to insist that those stereotypes are applicable to all people in your wildly heterogenous group

[@littleharunosakura]

Well said!

[@speedy01247]

Who are you talking about, Phil was quoting the article which was clearly gendered (as in it claimed those things, where as Phil is of the opinion that games are not gendered)

[@Redheart709]

@@speedy01247 they're not specifically talking about phil, they're referring to the author of the original article edit: typo i cant believe 30 ppl liked this with a typo omg

[@thepurpleclown]

I concur. One of the best examples of this happened waaaaaay back when a little show called Teen Titans came out for its small run, then got canceled. Turns out the reason it got canceled is because the demographic they were targeting (boys) didn't end up being the primary demo. The show had a much bigger fan base with girls, with an interesting Stat showing the majority of Teen Titan toy sales during the shows run was bought by girls.

[@Raigius]

@@thepurpleclown weird I've heard this story before but the demographic mix up wasn't by gender but rather age range from what I recall. IE the fans of the show were skewing to be older than the originally intended target demographic.

[@FoNgThOnG]

"Is it laziness or intentional?" It's stupidity.

[@cryptidseafog]

D) all of the above..?

[@SmolPotatowo]

Isn't that everything nowadays? Gotta differentiate between different kinds of stupidity :^)

[@CyGea]

Yes, it was completely stupid for the DNC to treat this like a "normal" convention.

[@JanderVK]

Nah, disinformation campaign as usual. Nothing new.

[@CyGea]

@@JanderVK Where was the "disinformation?" The tweet was 100% factually correct. The most you could say is, it lacked information, as do 90% of news stories today.

[@alixt.3090]

I don’t know why Sims 4 is being grouped with games like Candy Crushed or Kim Kardashian. It’s a game with its own freaking gamer community.

[@conjared2803]

Sims is a corner stone of gaming. Casuals, streamers, hardcore, all kind of gamers have played a sims game once in their lives

[@olivebranch7769]

@ The reason they're looked down upon is because they're mobile games, though. It's the same reason why board game players aren't considered gamers either. It's a totally different type of game.

[@saltynama]

I am a 53 yo grandma who started playing D&D at 14. None of the games I ever have played look like anything on that sad, sorry list. My Steam library includes Star Wars, Outer Worlds, Skyrim and Witcher, and my phone game list has Jurrasic Park Alive, Black Mobile Desert and KOTOR, along with 25 other games. Btw gamergate is real, and there have been games i had to stop playing because moderators and gamers were/are asshats to female players. Also AOC rules.

[@merrin1341]

Much love and support to you! I hope to still be playing dnd and those other games my whole life!

[@shadowsoul121]

Hell yes! I only recently started playing d&d but I have 80ish games on steam and none of them made the list either

[@InchWormOmlette]

You are so cool! Thank you for paving the way for fellow female gamers like me :)

[@kleiler]

yes yes yes, AOC rules: kzbin.info/www/bejne/g6esqqRomZpliM0

[@individual746b3]

My gandmar would love you ☺️

[@seaamundsen4687]

I think the miscovering of AOC's speech was absolutely intentional.

[@jiruribakachan365]

I second that, they have been briefed, they knew it was coming and still ran with that headline. This was nothing short of a hit job.

[@lilBabyBornInCalifornia]

idk, kinda confused me when i first heard it... the fact that she endorses a man with multiple women accusing him of inappropriate behavior is enough for me to be voting green this year

[@KomoliRihyoh]

@@lilBabyBornInCalifornia she's not going to vote green because green has 0% chance of winning this year, and she has a better chance in the long run of getting the policies she wants enacted by endorsing sexual-predator-Biden than Miss Nobody and the Green Team

[@cameronf6366]

@@lilBabyBornInCalifornia unfortunately, voting green is literally throwing your vote away this election. It's the stupid two party system we have, but this election is not the one for you to kick sand at the establishment and waste your vote. You legitimately would be giving away a vote to Trump

[@zachjordan7608]

full agree, there is no way they didn't know, and if the writers really didn't they should be fired.

[@EdwardLorn]

My wife was glaring at my computer screen while you were reading that list of games women love lol

[@shadowsoul121]

I did too lol

[@Zenkai76]

This is stupid, the list was based on what a majority of girl games love. If the list had been girl gamers under 30 I am sure it would have been a much different list but if it includes all ages, it's going to be a much different list since your older girl gamers tend to enjoy simpler games.

[@Fontan_]

@@Zenkai76 really looked like a Facebook mom kind of "gamer girl" Excluding overwatch

[@shadowsoul121]

@@Fontan_ agreed! it was also published by E3 and they kind of should've known better imo. I'm over 30 and don't consider myself a gamer girl or anything like that. The list still seems really off to me.

[@jaimewilliams5609]

I honestly started laughing so hard like at this point,, it's just kinda funny. Like it's just THAT ridiculous

[@anaa9667]

"Am I right ladies" My eyes rolled so far back into my head

[@xVadRay]

I almost threw up

[@jacksevert3099]

but why would a woman write that? Especially a fellow female gamer? Was it spoonfed by a higher up? or her own womanly opinion? the world may never know but any thoughts would be welcoming

[@anika9203]

@@jacksevert3099 lmao she probably just plays exclusively mobile games and thinks that applies to every female gamer on the planet. Her higher ups probs just told her to write about it despite her lack of experience in the area rip, kinda feel bad for her

[@kiwibird8441]

@@wartome3196 the fact that many women do not agree with the article is a clear sign that it was in fact... a bad article.

[@celialovett5880]

This article sounded like it actually was written by a male, middle aged and mid level accountant with no actual clue about gaming OR women.

[@alicia379]

That game list is for children. Not girls or women. Children. As a gamer with children, I can confirm. 🤣

[@infinitydreamzz]

Can you give us a list of games that women play and talk about when they meet? I'm guessing that's what all women talk about, right? Also, isn't every woman's dream man a gamer that also watches a lot of football? Can you confirm? 😋

[@daisylvechat9693]

💖💗🔴💜💌

[@BoopieBoop]

Ah yes I love playing * looks at hand scribbles * solo-tear

[@imdansullivan]

i'm losing everything. i'm going broke. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fZnFfnd6d5idhbc

[@XxLeoRiversxX]

Dan Sullivan that sucks dude. Try DoorDash.

[@Drghost1235]

@@imdansullivan Just stop

[@Wilson91191]

Yo, you got that on gamecast?

[@AngryKittens]

@@imdansullivan Try selling your kidney.

[@sambeawesome]

"Am I right ladies?" Is this the new, "How do you do fellow kids"? Oof.

[@CatIsMad]

It's not

[@Just-aNerd]

How do you do fellow women?

[@cantpickauser]

Ugh I would not be able to take it.

[@whitelantern3599]

Hello fellow hooman

[@EL-ISS]

"Diamonds are a girl's best friend, am I right girls?" Good lord the cringe... THE CRINGE !!!!

[@billtheone3467]

we should come up with another word for cringe. Because using cringe nowadays is pretty cringe

[@Rage_Harder_Then_Relax]

@@billtheone3467 Well? What do you suggest then?

[@crypticcorgi8280]

"We women are naturally materialistic Imma rite??"

[@crypticcorgi8280]

@@billtheone3467 Also I was thinking of changing the word "meme"... Too old.... Of course I am joking, stop being a hipster. We do not need to re-invent new words with the exact same meaning. Sure create synonyms if they hold different connotations or express a specific kind of cringe. But let's not start running threw words like a flash in the pan fad because you feel like it. -.-

[@copecope7278]

Bet you wouldn’t turn one down, though.

[@eleni1186]

Number 1: Sudoku Well ladies they found out they found our secret time to go back to the drawing board

[@islandboy4445]

The only person I know who plays that regularly is my dad lol

[@waywardmind]

"David Dobrik" and "authenticity" are not synonymous for me.

[@dieeego]

Why not? He created his own genre on KZbin. Are you nuts?

[@garlicidk8554]

dieeego what vlogging? With friends?

[@dieeego]

@@garlicidk8554 YES, vlogging with his friends. His comedic vlog style was not born, before he created it. His vlogs were a rapid-fire hybrid of Jackass meets KZbin. That didn't exist on YT before him.

[@waywardmind]

@@dieeego "Jackass meets KZbin" is the literal definition of "not authentic" and rather "calibrated for view count".

[@dieeego]

In that case, Casey Neistat's vlog style is also not authentic, since it is filmmaking meets vlogging. You can dislike David if you want. I'm not his fanboy, but we're not going to sit here and pretend like he didn't carve his own vlog-style on YT. I've been here for a while. Seen a lot of KZbinrs come and go. I remember when Phil was friends with Lisa Nova, Shaycarl and all the other people from "The Station". I pay attention to what people do on this platform and David Dobrik's style was not done here before.

[@Luminousplayer]

part of me expects the Fall Guys charity to be sniped at the last moment by PornHub with 696,969.69 donation skin

[@EmoPunkgirl144]

Still might

[@Alexandria3131]

and ya know, i might be okay with that

[@Mangascribbler]

I’d be super okay with that outcome

[@ShadowLynx777]

Or Elon with a $4,200,069 bid

[@TheGagabou]

SpaceX suit, 4'206'900$

[@Tvhiti]

‘No mom I can’t pause solitaire!!’

[@Anthropomorphic]

Technically correct, much like you can't pause a physical deck of cards.

[@AngryKittens]

"Are ya winning yet, daughter?"

[@TCt83067695]

@@AngryKittens "daughter" 😂🤣🤦🏾‍♂️

[@Evija3000]

@@AngryKittens Hah, my mom asks that when I play Dungeons and Dragons.

[@Exera80]

My top 10 list of online games that should have more girls / women playing: 1. All the games.

[@jimboblordofeskimos]

So you are the ones who keep buying all of the sports games every year. It all makes sense now.

[@The_Evening_Sun]

I don't know about that there are some fucking bland cash grabby MMO's out there.

[@infinitydreamzz]

If girls/women want to play something then by all means. If they don't, why should they, or anyone else for that matter play or do something they are not attracted to? I think what we should do is respect women's choices and bash any ideologists trying to manipulate and misrepresent them in the name of equality

[@PeakCasual]

Seriously though. The article is literally following the stereotype to heart. "Guy Games" that I know women actually play and love: RED f**king Dead, GTA, CSGO, Witcher, Fallout, Halo, Destiny, Star Wars, Barbie Mansion Pre-order deluxe edition.

[@Strawation]

Mm that Barbie Mansion

[@letsstartadialogueeh7692]

Seriously I finally just got Red Dead and boi I'm in love, almost done with my first play through. 😥

[@undeniable_1]

I own and play/have played every single game you mentioned. I could add a lot more, my steam is filled. I just spent 7 hours grinding in D2 tonight. HOW did I miss that Barbie Mansion Preorder Deluxe Edition? I mean I'm sure it's a GTA ripoff, but I need that commemorative in game pink convertible!

[@borealernadelwald]

To be fair I play a ton of different games. From Sims, Planet Zoo to Warframe, GTA, Witcher (finally got around to it recently after having it on my to do list for so long. I love it so much!) and things like Golf with your friends, The Hunter: Call of the wild, Ultimate Fishing Simulator, Civilization, Path of Exile and a ton more. Most multiplayer games I play with a friend and we are both open to pretty much everything. I also despise the term "Gamer Girl". I'm a gamer, just happen to be female.

[@willtheprodigy3819]

But.. those ARE guy games. There’s this thing called “statistics;” I know, they hurt your feelings, but they exist.

[@Kill3rR0s3]

That gendered list reminds me of that metal grandma who would play wolfenstein when it came out to hardcore heavy metal while killing nazis

[@willtheprodigy3819]

But the reason why that’s funny and interesting is *because* it’s different and unique. Women do enjoy different games than men because their brains are different.

[@Kill3rR0s3]

WillTheProdigy the confidence or arrogance with which you say that is hilarious, everyone’s brains are different welcome to the human race!

[@yeckeyilana]

@@Kill3rR0s3 this comment wins ❤

[@SwtBeat]

WillTheProdigy No. full stop. I play ACNH but I also love Diablo. Neither of these say anything about my brain or gender.

[@LifeOfFox]

@@willtheprodigy3819 No it's funny and interesting because she's old, not female. Is your brain working ok? That video wouldn't have been funny and interesting if it was a 25 year old woman doing the same thing, so obviously being female isn't the common denominator here. But thanks for showing everyone you lack intellect, we can only hope your theory is wrong and not all men are as bad at putting 2 and 2 together as you are.

[@shelby1324]

"How do you do, fellow gamers?"

[@imdansullivan]

i'm going broke. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fZnFfnd6d5idhbc i can never understand this

[@marnimagaro8189]

Ahahaha that's exactly what the article felt like omg you nailed it 😂😂😂😂😂

[@FastBowtie388]

Psn: DSO1369377 :-)

[@LafondaSugarcakes]

David: Does anything Phil: Thumbnail and title

[@NotebookMovies]

Roll call to all the other 270 people who stay til he says "I'll see you tomorrow."

[@imdansullivan]

i'm going broke. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fZnFfnd6d5idhbc i truly don't understand.

[@Drghost1235]

@@imdansullivan And you're spamming comments, just stop

[@kaylaharmer333]

Here!!

[@ZynnHavik]

Here

[@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley]

Everyone report Dan Sullivan by clicking the three dots beside his name.

[@rasmie8858]

David Dobrik: Does stuff Phil: Get that face on my video

[@imdansullivan]

i'm going broke. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fZnFfnd6d5idhbc it's all gone.

[@georgehernandez2156]

Im just waiting for someone exposing him for something

[@thedissidentleftist6997]

@@georgehernandez2156 he already was exposed and is in hiding. Beside that app is going to be a dead end like that one guy with "huge" audience tried to launch a cheap version of KZbin and only gets a few hundreds views on his videos ha.

[@KURRDA]

solitary one He’s not in hiding, he’s not posting because of the pandemic and being in quarantine

[@thedissidentleftist6997]

@@KURRDA cheap excuses. I bet hes partying like the hype house, jake paul, and that other house.

[@hawksthevrcuga6607]

I like how this gaming journalist basically based all these "female based games" off what she say her 70 year old grandmother and 16 yearold sister play

[@imdansullivan]

i cant do this. i'm going broke. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fZnFfnd6d5idhbc

[@Drghost1235]

@@imdansullivan Just stop

[@hawksthevrcuga6607]

@@imdansullivan Mate, can you not promote your KZbin channel in the replies? Literally NOONE cares

[@andrewrawlings5220]

It sounds like the were the only female gamers she could talk to.

[@beepboop756]

I don't even play that many video games and it hurt to read. So condescending. Like solitaire is solid but so is bioshock, rdr, the forest, gta, etc etc etc. Also who is actually playing the kim kardashian game??? I'll admit to playing episode once in a while, but kim kardashian????? Yucky

[@MayMay-jy9mr]

sorry but who even played the Kim kardashian game in the last 5 years ....

[@jenna.livingston]

I'm not really involved in the gaming community, and even I can see how that list missed the mark 😅 I'm really into reading and booktube, particularly high fantasy stuff and it'd be just as annoying if an article said that women just read erotica and historical romance. There's nothing wrong with liking that stuff, but it doesn't represent all women who read 😂

[@GummyDinosaursify]

Guaranteed there's an article out there that says that. Unfortunately, readers dont really have as big of an outcry or support as the gaming community does. Some guy on a top news website says Libraries should be replaced with Amazon bookstores and the topic barely hit mainstream lol

[@Roflpawnched]

Any recommendations for high fantasy? I'm more into sci-fi but wanted to get into some fantasy series. The Wheel of Time is on my list but honestly I don't know where to start in the genre.

[@jenna.livingston]

@@Roflpawnched if you're totally new to the genre, a lot of fantasy readers (myself included) recommend Brandon Sanderson books. I think Mistborn is his best series, but Elantris or Warbreaker are good for one-offs if you're uneasy about starting! I also think Six of Crows is a good starting off point for a YA high fantasy series as well!

[@pagecarlee626]

100% agree on this! I am married to a gamer, and when he saw this he was like "What? Why?" because it just doesn't make sense to be a gendered list & there's very much a difference between casuals & gamers, just retitle this article "casual loved games" and it's fine. When I first met my husband's roommate he said "So are you a Kill la Kill or Hunter x Hunter fan?" & I was like ? The Fuck ? & My husband had to explain that not all girls who dye their hair bright colors like anime... Until that instance my husband never noticed it but now he hears some of the things people "assume" about me & it's made him so much more aware of how literally anything about me is somehow translated to dudes as "oh she's a gamergirl" like nah man I have an MSI because it's a fucking beast, and I use cherry reds because I like the way they sound. Not all of my personality has to be displayed in some way. I fucking love sci-fi, TNG is top 3 all time favorite shows but I'm not out here ordering Tea Earl Grey Hot, because I like Orange Pekoe Iced.

[@Eroil]

@@jenna.livingston instantly thought of mistborn when he asked lol. Such a good series, holding back on rereading for a while since I don't have the time

[@diegodore-batres3740]

Anybody gonna talk about how they didnt even spell “Sudoku” right at the beginning?

[@GarnetReaper]

Lol that's amazing!

[@liquidchameleon5993]

Fucking magical cacth bruv. Thanks for the chuckle!

[@danksenzuweed2]

Gaming "journalism" in a nutshell

[@Lattamonsteri]

Im too lazy to check but maybe it's the name of a sudoku game? There's a website at the end even. Soduko.com So if it's misspelled, it's the game designers' choice, not the fault of the journalist :P

[@Lattamonsteri]

Ok it started to bother me and i checked. XD it should be sudoku.com So they're are 2 big typos in a single paragraph... :/ sigh

[@Garanjalla]

They easily could’ve put popular triple A titles with a massive or growing female following . Plenty of women play MMOs RTS and shooters to rival the male demographic ; that list was insultingly pandering

[@Tentegen]

bruh. I had to do a double take at that list. Im still waiting for that right time to get all 3 of the Witcher games, Doom Eternal, and some Legend of Zelda games I missed out on. i mean, no offense....but those games (with the exception of a few) are the participation award of games. My MOM, i at least, got her into Minecraft Dungeons. jeesus.

[@Nikita_]

As a female game developer, that list perpetuates harmful stereotypes within an industry that already struggles with female representation.

[@sleuth2077]

Harmful? Isn't that a bit melodramatic for a list of video games?

[@LipSyncLover]

@@sleuth2077 yeah. a wee bit melodramatic. Like, granted, gaming is the last remaining thing in society i feel like where you can hear sexist slurs reminiscent of the 50s and 60s.....but i dont think the list is going to do a ton of harm since anyone who takes that list seriously probably has 3 brain cells

[@LifeOfFox]

@@sleuth2077 How about we make a list called "10 games black people like playing"? Because lists aren't a problem right?

[@LifeOfFox]

@@LipSyncLover Kids take these lists seriously all the time, and go years thinking it's true and theres massive differences between the genders in places where there really isn't. Its troubling how clueless little boys are about these things, and yes they do believe this crap when they read it. With porn being so accessible things have just gotten so much worse. I've literally had to tell 10-12 year old boys on games that "No, typical women don't enjoy being slapped/choked, don't start doing that to girls you know. It doesn't matter what you saw in porn". I'm so god damn happy I'm not a kid growing up right now. It was bad enough dealing with guys before all this, I don't even want to know what girls deal with these days, and the things they think they're supposed to do because porn told them it's normal. These stupid lists are the tip of the iceberg for the gender divide.

[@sleuth2077]

@@LifeOfFox that has nothing to do with at all.......but hey, nice strawman. I never said it was a good idea to write the list, but saying it's perpetuating “harmful stereotypes" is a bit much.

[@TheBugBrigade]

“Ninja teaming up with AimLab for a donation of $420,069” Me: *cackles* NICE

[@whitelantern3599]

Mr Beast coming back with $690,420

[@TheBugBrigade]

White Lantern that would be an omg moment. Or him coming back with 696,969 😂😂😂

[@javencummins1426]

Both of those would be great. 🤣

[@lovestonedragon]

ahh yes diamonds are my best friend but idk neitherite is waayy nicer

[@TheoJRuddy]

I’ll take fools gold over that article 🤣

[@daviddixon1432]

I don’t know all of my friends run when they see me wearing a full set of it.

[@jacksevert3099]

my question is why would a woman right this in the first place? was this nonsense spoonfed to her by a higher up? is it her actual research an data that led to her list? Can female authors be trusted in a case like this? Idk but any minecrafter would agree netherite > diamonds

[@enderwiggins8248]

Jack Severt what do you mean by trust?

[@jacksevert3099]

@@enderwiggins8248 can we trust the source when it's completely contradictory to the masses? Are female authors being used as a "shield" by male editors? there is probably many more cases of this we just dont know

[@hatorigirl1202]

Gaming list I'd actually be interested in: what old games are people discovering/replaying over the pandemic? I just finished the Spyro trilogy for the first time.

[@ЗвездаМИШ]

Vampire Bloodlines Masquerade :)

[@wimexseven]

I've actually hopped back into Age of Empires 2

[@aarontheperson6867]

Dark Messiah of Might and Magic. Kicking poor bastards into spike walls and spike pits has never felt better.

[@olliecoates4723]

Pokemon Heartgold :)

[@abdaniel487]

Not a *super* old game, but I finally made a commitment to Witcher 3. I've owned it for years but never really got into it. Since the pandemic I've put in like 100 hours.

[@Korenski23VO]

We went from the “7 of you still here” to the “71 of you still here” to the “271 of you still here” . Your channel is growing Phil! Lol 😂

[@crystalscrystals3445]

David: Does anything Phil: Thumbnail and title

[@milesedgeworth132]

"social media network built on authenticity" Telemarketing based on honesty. ICMBs based on peacekeeping. Tweeting for fun.

[@Marcos-yd2iz]

ok dude just don't use the app you don't need to insert your smug holier-than-thou opinion in every not-important newspiece

[@jerryborjon]

Being an asshole to new ideas to feel smarter.

[@TheNerkle]

I gotta re-read 1984

[@navins11]

@@Marcos-yd2iz wut? I also kinda laughed at the "built on authenticity" part. Like its a joke :D

[@kingjamestres]

Tweeting for fun is the one that got me lol

[@MavenCree]

Well, just let me put down my katana and stop playing Ghosts of Tsushima and pick up that Kim Kardashian game. WTF?

[@teralee4987]

Hahaha I was just thinking the exact same thing

[@MonikaRabha]

lol 🤣 lets put the diamond on katana, then we will have one best~est friend 😆

[@thedoomerpipeline7382]

"Female Gamer Backlash" We're in for a treat today, aren't we?

[@tuotuolu2805]

me in the back of my head : "pls don't be riot again, pls don't be riot again"

[@AnymMusic]

@Lane W Wright k

[@PotatoGawds]

@Student Livon O`neal what statistic? No one agreed with the list

[@meth3rlence]

@UCRp8ggJAFam4G4JTiL0O_EA Because the outrage mob doesn't acknowledge any difference between the genders or understand statistics... the outrage was an obvious outcome in 2020 tbh. Apparently Phil doesn't acknowledge gender differences either "it feels odd to have a gendered list like this..." "It might make sense to make it based on age, like 7-12 year old" ... so in Phil's eyes an 8 year old girl and 11 year old boy will like the same games, but women can't possibly have any preference correlation.

[@starparodier91]

My only backlash is that I’m just starting my workday due to silly time zones and my only friend in my complex wants to hang out but I have to do play testing. Yay (PS I love my job)

[@laaber3444]

I remember years ago when I was an avid gamer, girls often used to disguise themselves as male. It’s a shame that they had to, because I saw how crazy some people were. Just let people enjoy their games.

[@Alex632]

Were you one of them?

[@letsstartadialogueeh7692]

I was definitely one of them. I've been banned for sounding too female...before the game even started. Alternatively, some guys would want to help me more than other players and just ugh.

[@TwinTailFox10]

Believe me they still hide their genders and pretend to be guys

[@MonikaRabha]

@@letsstartadialogueeh7692 i can soooo relate to this! they used to 'take bullets' for me. i was like "wtf".

[@ppiqua3523]

I remember when it came out that one of the best warriors on my server in WoW (this was 2006) was actually a girl. She had made her character and her screen name male and talked only in text. It was huge drama at the time. I think she quit shortly after. Probably moved servers

[@MeAndMichaelOeuo]

say it with me: *GAMING SHOULDN’T BE GENDERED* *GAMING SHOULDN’T BE GENDERED* *GAMING SHOULDN’T BE GENDERED*

[@hoytbenson6016]

GAMING SHOULD NOT BE GENDERED

[@sciencefan001]

Games in general shouldn’t be but having games that target a certain gender isn’t bad.

It will always be gender, for better or for worse.

[@Dexx1s]

But the genders think differently and their interests are different so it's always going to be gendered in some way. It's the same for ages and cultures.

[@mississipi1103]

@@Dexx1s if we raised girls and boys the same way we would be 98% the same ( I don't deny hormones)

[@daemon.mythos]

I feel sorry for DeJoy's wife. He probably has trouble delivering at home too.

[@Hailey-bz2ym]

😂

[@imdansullivan]

i'm going broke. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fZnFfnd6d5idhbc i cant believe myself.

[@imdansullivan]

i'm going broke. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fZnFfnd6d5idhbc this isnt real

[@douglaslangley9251]

@@imdansullivan aaaaand reported

[@Van420Dal]

Report @Dan Sullivan

[@strangerofthe2067]

DIAMONDS ARE A GIRL’S BEST FRIEND! aM i rIgHt LaDiEs?????! lol

[@starparodier91]

Diamond Dogs am I right

[@Alleellaa]

Lol

[@teathomas]

Holy shit I heard this and couldn’t believe the article was actually written by a woman. It sounds like Hallmark Channel man writing as a woman.

[@FreshNews247]

You'll find out one day... Jokes.

[@FreshNews247]

@@teathomas I know she should had just listened all the Lego games because that's all women play

[@nonopenope]

i've been into video games, particularly jrpgs, for over a decade. to me, it looks like that list was made by someone who barely researched the topic and just looked for top selling f2ps in the app/play store that had some some good reviews from female players. first off, i'm not sure why they limited the list to f2p games when the title implies that it'd be a list of all types of games that women enjoy. i would've expected to see games with strong female protagonists (or female protagonist options) like horizon zero dawn or assassin's creed odyssey if that were the case. but even with the f2p limit, they ignored big games like fire emblem: heroes and granblue fantasy, which have a decent amount of female-oriented content. what's especially ridiculous about this list is it just makes it looks like female players only play simple, casual games (sudoku and bejeweled? really?) rather than games that actually require skill and time investment. not surprised about the backlash at all.

[@vvFREAKOUTvv]

10:18 OK who edited it to make it like Phil bitch slap the post master... Cause that's funny

[@zm1763]

Lol, nice find

[@21kittensArtStudio]

That was excellent 😂

[@ambergetsbutterflies]

I don’t think they meant any harm but as a “wamen” I actually do play Sims 4 which made the list but my other big ones are Destiny 2 and Elder Scrolls. I play all kinds of stuff though.

[@yiklongtay6029]

It's just a dumb case of boomer attempting to appeal to millennials. It does not deserve this much of a backlash. Memes and ridicule? Perhaps. Screeching Twitter meltdown and a statement from E3? Probably not

[@thedragong]

Mate, I'm a big RTS fan who got over 2000 hours on crusader kings 2 alone. The list was clearly written by someone who has never seen a gamer.

[@spriddlez]

I was going to say, in my experience (both as a female gamer and a friend of other female gamers) I have noticed that many women do tend to play the Sims and Animal Crossing. But I would also add the Zelda franchise, fantasy RPGs (both western and JRPGs) and visual novels. But even though that is a slight trend, many women love all sorts of different games... including fighting games, shooters, puzzled, action platformers, shmups etc. ..... /almost as if we are people/. Turns out .. different people... like different things. I know men who love Doom and COD who play Bejeweled. I know women who like Leisure Suit Larry and Danganronpa. This is basically like saying "10 Movies that women like watching" and putting in 8 rom coms, a drama and one Marvel movie. Sure women go see romcoms more than men probably... doesn't mean we should act as though that means anything or represents something about women.

[@FastBowtie388]

Destiny on Playstation? Psn: DSO1369377... I'M looking for a new clan :-)

[@momierxorz]

I would argue that the biggest problem with the list is that it just takes raw statistical data based on genders and completely ignores the fact that there are a lot of women who play these games but arent part of the gaming hobby, which is what I would have liked to see represented here, women who are involved in gaming as their main hobby rather than raw stats.

[@miaruuu8375]

Is nobody gonna talk about the really specific $420,069 donation lol

[@firered23ful]

Nice.

[@Black-Light]

Nice.

[@rabab473]

Nice

[@Tigershark_3082]

Noice

[@moonlady3000]

I don't want to break the 69 likes on this comment.

[@graceyloufb]

This episode confirms why I get most of my news from Phil. He actually takes the responsibility of reporting seriously.

[@Slimeq]

I love when Phil makes the "nobody ever gets mad about this topic" joke it never gets old

[@tonypeppermint5329]

It's perfect.

[@AuthenTech]

When Casey hears of Dobrik trying to create a new social platform... 🤣🤦‍♂️🤣

[@StormBreaker1999]

KZbin please stop giving me political ads I’m so annoyed now, just say to vote

[@kingofthebis1068]

But did you sign trump’s birthday card?

[@martymcflyy6775]

@@kingofthebis1068 and did you give some financial support?

[@SaraH-jn5db]

@@martymcflyy6775 and did you burn down the local planned parenthood in your current location?

[@levygaming3133]

And would you be willing to tell KZbin your political stance?

[@kratomandy6317]

Have you pulled down a George Washington, or U.S Grant statue recently?

[@ThePhilBetterShow]

I love the random number you chose to say at the end of the vid!!! Always love being include! Thank you for all the work you and your team does to bring us some unbiassed news. It is very much appreciated by this Canadian. Keep on delivering the news!

[@keiharris332]

NBC actually issuing corrections? Wait a minute...

[@junor7215]

Just gotta be on the righ.... Correct side... I guuueeesss?

[@vassar2013]

bc they were called on it this time by someone with a blue checkmark.

[@SerenityM54L2SAM5L5N1]

Guess we'll see AOC start complaining about the mainstream media and fake news now, even though the report was sort of correct in the first place. AOC split the Democrat party and agreed to endorsing Bernard instead of Joseph. If this leads to the Democrats losing in 2020 by a minimal amount, that can be blamed on AOC! Just like how every conspiratorial voter has jumped on Russia and falsely connected Trump with Russia for years.

[@Aviftw]

At 1 in the morning, of course

[@Aviftw]

@@SerenityM54L2SAM5L5N1 Sure, they will blame it on the AOC/Sanders/Any Progressives regardless, not on the Biden "I will give you nothing and you will like it, unless you are wealthy in which case I will be completely oblivious as to what you are taking" campaign

[@zeeheaded]

When you mentioned the games list my optimistic heart was like 'maybe it's a list of games where the community is welcoming and nobody gets shouted down on voice chat' was prepared to be given some good recs but guess not.

[@AngryKittens]

Sudoku has a vicious community with tons of online harassment.

[@BeanWaterJunkie]

No joke I once had a player call me a whore in a mobile game called "Words with Friends", which is basically Scrabble.

[@jason300c1]

Feel like he only says "Bastard" when he directly wants to call someone a bastard.. every other time he just says "Bastards".

[@Nickyc997]

And

[@kirstiedwards9704]

Philip, you are so great! Love watching your daily updates, love the banter, appreciate the facts and holding those accountable. Keep it up man!!! (my favorite game app is the snooze button)

[@RAINBOWtights231]

Just happy that there isn't just 2 of us hanging around till the end card! 200 strong and growing!

[@corrincorrin3055]

Lmao I’m a “girl gamer” and I’ve just never cared, I play Zelda, RPGs, I’ll play anything.

[@ALPHARHYTHM0]

Well not anything, but good games!

[@corrincorrin3055]

Brian Watson well I just listed a couple, besides puzzle games I’ll pretty much play anything haha.

[@CreativaArtly]

The Kim Kardashian game actually bugs your phone with viruses.

[@coffeetext]

Yikes.

[@Dragonemperess]

Us girls absolutely LOVE viruses!

[@gracewhitene3912]

i'm not surprised.

[@emiliaholmberg3320]

I am not surprised that it is that way because Kim cares more about the money that she makes from it than how well the game works on users devices

[@KeybladeMasterAndy]

@@emiliaholmberg3320 Assuming she personally licensed out her name and likeness to be used in a geme. Brands as big as hers usually have more than one person managing them.

[@youtubeuser8504]

David dobrik is always in the cover when he’s never actually in drama

[@sketchingstudio5552]

No offence to the writer, I'm sure she wasn't well versed in the topic... but ew. Not a good list.

[@SerenityM54L2SAM5L5N1]

What did she do wrong? Deliver the truthful notion that it's more likely for women to enjoy non-shooter games? Because that's 100% correct in most cases.

[@Strawation]

It would be a great list if the title said "Games Women aged 34 to 54 Enjoy". Also if she cut out the word "free" when talking about the games on her list.

[@letsstartadialogueeh7692]

@@SerenityM54L2SAM5L5N1 I mean like is that written somewhere? I love fps uwu

[@hhhhhheyyyyyyyyyyy]

@@Strawation whaaat? i will do everything to make you cancel that statement. i've been playing solitare sudoku since forever and i'm only 26! i also enjoy console games and pc games but don't you dare shit on those precious games that were there for me when steam didn't even exist. now i'm going back to play my dearest sudoku

[@Strawation]

@@hhhhhheyyyyyyyyyyy I mean, she specifically focused on the 35 to 54 age range for her pre-list chatter. Nothing is filler when it's a statistic. Not even the Church of Satan themselves can declare it otherwise!

[@kamcalste]

I miss your kiddo saying, "I hope you like this video, subscribe if you like it," but it pops into my head at the end of every video anyway! So it's like the outro isn't really gone.

[@juliacoves5873]

Same!!!

[@Hammerheadcomedy]

Sobering moment of the day. "To the end of the year, or maybe even to the end of this pandemic" oof man. Big oif

[@fatlacesthedon]

"Big oif?"

[@InChellsMind]

Look at the numbers. Doesn’t look like covid is going anywhere anytime soon. Shit is too contagious

[@Eroil]

@@fatlacesthedon Jewish oof, didn't you know? The I stands for Yahweh

[@kareningram6093]

Thanks for shouting out SGDQ. I totally forgot that was on because they are late this year, probably due to COVID. Definitely going to tune in now.

[@tylery6352]

I like how you keep upping the number of people still here Phil haha

[@sweetaesthetic]

I want the stats for how many of us watch until the end 😝

[@raelewis9957]

I want a recount!!!

[@NicholasLaMuro]

so... we are a virus?

[@nerdlingeeksly5192]

Never trust any article claiming things like "Top 25 games girls play" they're always paid ads meant to get whatever demographic they are pandering towards to buy that game.

[@rosenrot234]

"Girls wanna play female heroes!" meanwhile back when I played Overwatch almost all the girls were either Reinhardt or Roadhog mains. And they were terrifying

[@hhhhhheyyyyyyyyyyy]

there's a legit study with a good sample size that states most women tend to pick support characters or female characters when playing overwatch. Overwatch appealed to tons of girls who never played shooting games in their life due to their comparatively large pool of women friendly? characters. sure girls who played other games before picked anybody, but girls who were introduced to fps by overwatch still tend to pick female characters over male characters. if this was a different game, i'd be upset about 'girls only liking the game for female characters' but since it's overwatch i just wanted to let you know a lot of girls like overwatch for the girls and it's not a bad thing. actually it made a marketing statement like more women friendly characters = more potential players. sooo umm everybody's valid. but statistically the author's not wrong lol

[@marnimagaro8189]

The best gamer girl list is so hysterically sad ☠️☠️

[@richierichrichardson1463]

It was games for girls not gamer girls :/

[@ShadowLynx777]

@@richierichrichardson1463 Regardless, that list was absolutely brain dead. If you know nothing about the industry just don't fucking write about it. We get shit on as "not real gamers" enough as is

[@Deathlordalmighty]

Someone should do a survey. Find out what the age/gender demographic breakdown are for some of the more popular games and each genre of games. I think it'd be very interesting.

[@newkid9807]

Marni m it’s true tho

[@ade4793]

@@ShadowLynx777 Its girls in general not the hardcore gamer girls like do u think girls and gamer girls are the same thing why would upset upset over facts.

[@elizabeth1927]

Did you ever end up doing the Betterhelp deep dive that you advertised when that whole controversy happened?

[@coffeegirl18]

I'd like to know what was actually wrong with BetterHelp. I've only heard good things.

[@starsiegeRoks]

@@coffeegirl18 apparently the problem was that the "therapists" they hired had shady certifications/weren't actually licenced therapists, and that they weren't giving good advice for being a "therapy" website.

[@historymogul2867]

@@EvieCorwell I think he just doesn't care about the companies he advertises as much as he pretends to. I don't mind for most things since I get it, he needs to have advertisers considering the situation on KZbin, but certainly not just a coincidence that all of the advertisers he has "used for years." To be fair, he has been pretty consistent, having similar advertisers for years, but I don't think he typically looked into things too much, and I think he probably made that mistake with Betterhelp and kinda dipped

[@Finalblue1234]

@@historymogul2867 that normally would be the case if it wasn't for the fact that Betterhelp in particular had connections to his website Rogue Rocket (which he didn't even announce yet at the time) and the fact he went hard in defending the company to the point of reviewing their hate mail questions. You don't do that for a sponsor unless you got some bridges you're trying to save.

[@coffeegirl18]

@@EvieCorwell Maybe they threatened to sue them?

[@Confron7a7ion7]

Listing The Sims as one of the best "Best Gamer Girl Games" is low key sexist. It's a real common stereotype in the gaming community. Like the stereotype that the girl in an MMO raid or in LoL is the support for her DPS boyfriend. Want to know the real best games for women? Just Google a list of the top games of a given year. They're the same list. My mother who was a house wife in her 30s at the time use to make custom maps for the original Doom. She would put the cheat codes in for me because I was 6 and getting instantly murdered isn't fun for a 6 year old. Gaming doesn't need to worry about a person's sex or gender.

[@CaKoMi]

Your mom sounds pretty cool

[@misss299]

The sims is awesome, theres nothing wrong with that.

[@mikehauncho4874]

There are a lot of women who love fast paced, intense, and competitive games. The vast majority don't. That's not sexist, it's just a fact. If you actually look at the numbers and see what women are playing, their list is accurate. That in no way prevents, demands, or restricts what games are available to women. Just like I look at the numbers for guys and see a list of games that I don't play. That doesn't mean I should get offended. I just go, "Makes sense, but I don't like those games." Then I play the games I want, unpopular indie games.

[@chasemcnab7610]

Trump in 2016: “the election is rigged against me!” Trump in 2020: *tries to rig the election*

[@RtistiqSkubie]

Factually untrue.

[@sebastiancuadros7067]

@RtistiqSkubie so you’re just gonna ignore How trump sent his crook sycophant DeJoy yo destroy the post office? How he’s super against everyone voting, especially by mail, and also this “If everyone voted, you would never have another republican win again”

[@XxColt45xX]

@@sebastiancuadros7067 USPS has been shit and horrible way before Trump was put in office. I've had nothing but problems and lost packages/mail from them every time I used them.

[@candellak]

Lady here 🙋🏻‍♀️ the only “game” on my phone is sudoku so you could say this must is very accurate...or that they only questioned women that are not fans of games like myself.

[@imdansullivan]

i'm going broke. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fZnFfnd6d5idhbc this makes no sense for me

[@Seavsta]

Dan Sullivan aaaaand reported.

[@Gorbgorbenson]

Yeah, but Sudoku is fire.

[@ms.sellors.says.1184]

Love sudoku. Check out the cracking the cryptic channel, love hearing them solve sudoku.

[@El-mi4vi]

@@ms.sellors.says.1184 Seconding the cracking the cryptic recommendation

[@Slytrue]

Where are all the “boy” games that women are playing? Fortnite, COD, Apex, etc. All they had to do is look at Twitch to see female gamers.

[@hollyrowlands6943]

Because the list is based off games that have a high proportion of female players. Just because some women play "boy" games doesn't mean that's the trend, stereotypes exist for a reason.

[@MonikaRabha]

I literally played COD and watched this ..and i must say it was difficult to watch while he was going through the effing list

[@SwtBeat]

Holly Rowlands Stereotypes exist because our brains are lazy, shortcuts to grouping people make our brains able to move on to the next thing - that doesn’t mean it is right or that it isn’t harmful. There is no evidence that a majority of female gamers play female marketed games, even if those female marketed games have a majority of female players. Casual games are also in a box of their own, I play puzzler games like bejeweled on my phone to pass time but I also play Diablo.

[@DarkBunnyLord]

Because the list is generalizing the most common games they believe females to play. It’s literally impossible to make a list that includes every game a specific gender, age group, etc play. Yeah females play a wide range of games, just like guys do, just like kids do etc but like with everything their are trends to certain types of games that tend to be more commonly played by said groups. I’d say the only real cringe thing she did in the article was some of the resining like saying “diamonds are a girls best friend” etc.

[@DarkBunnyLord]

Racheal Bennett Theres is evidence, though it’s swaying largely into a more mixed field as social norms change but polling, sign up forms that require one to fill out sex, etc are valid ways of gathering data. I’m not saying this is what she used for her list, who knows what she used, but the data does exist marketing companies use it all the time because it literally helps them sell games by trying to figure out their target audience.

[@BajaBianca]

Me, after hearing about a self-proclaimed list of 'games women like to play' : "I would bet every penny I have that Candy Crush is on this list"

[@crisol6528]

Haha yes! My thought was sims because I was in a gaming development program and every male judge me because I like sims. They would argue saying that it isn’t a game. Like tf.

[@BothHands1]

at least animal crossing and overwatch were on there, but the rest of the list was just utterly embarrassing.

[@BothHands1]

at least put league of legends or world of warcraft on that list, my god. league literally has more total players than any game out there, and even though only about 10% of the playerbase are women or girls, its massive playerbase makes that 10% still far far more players than several of those other games combined.

[@Liquessen]

@@BothHands1 B-but Stardew Valley is amazing...!

[@BothHands1]

Liquessen lol

[@extrarainbowsprinkles]

I’ve listened to you for years Phil, and just in the last few months I’ve started listening to you the mornings as a wake up and learn about the news type of thing. I’ve slowly gotten my parents to sit in and listen to you too, my dad walks by and just hears clips but my mother has gotten to the point of standing next to me watching my phone with you on it. Thank you for always being a reliable news source these last several several years.

[@brittanywong-boleman627]

Nice to hear theres over 200 of us staying till the end, not long ago he would say just 3 ❤

[@fatlacesthedon]

"I hope you like this video, subscribe if you like it!"

[@angelmoon33]

I play most of the games in that last and i have never considered myself a gamer. So yea, the backlash all actual gamer girls gave was valid.

[@Bookworm51485]

No it wasn't

[@coombse123]

Ok. Im not even mad about the non-threatening open anymore, I'm just disappointed Phil.

[@hybridxg2204]

Didn’t he say that KZbin didn’t like it? Or was that just my excuse for not getting mad?

[@Lexsheraton]

Hey Phil, I love your show man but I’m kind of pissed at you for your Raycon ads. I purchased the E55’s because you were advertising them as awesome. I usually watch a ton of review videos before buying something but I figured that you’re an honest guy so I went ahead and purchased them using your code. These things suck. All you hear is distorted bass. Don’t get me wrong, this is MY FAULT. I should have done some more research and read/watched some review videos/posts but if you would have actually tried these earphones, no way would you have claimed how great they sound. - The bass takes over all music, you can barely hear everything else; - The mic sucks both for phone calls and general sound recording (vs AirPods 1st gen); - The battery life IS NOWHERE CLOSE to their claimed usage time for both calls, music, and standby; - There’s no way to know how much battery if left on the case or the earphones as there’s no app; - When you dock them in their case, THEY DONT TURN OFF. Calls still get picked up by them even when they’re charging in their case; I bought $20 wireless earpod type headphones that resemble the raycon e55’s for $20 on amazon and they OUT-PERFORM the originals (the only thing they lack is the wireless charging). Come on Phil man, we know you need to make some cash and you deserve every penny as your videos are awesome. I’ve been a subscriber for years but please try not to peddle expensive trash. As always, awesome video, Phil. Apologies in advance If my spelling sucks or some words don’t seem to fit into what I’m trying to say. Autocorrect is enough of a ass let alone typing on a cracked display 🙂 Lex

[@Djynni]

Female Gamer article: we have to keep in mind that this article was for Parade magazine, not for E3. That list seems to be fine for something like Parade which not a lot of dedicated gamers are going to go to for gaming suggestions.

[@caliggyjack7480]

That doesn't matter to the twitter mob

[@occasionallycreative2251]

Also I feel like the demographic of Parade skews older, so maybe those are games popular with older ladies.

[@heyitsJaclyn]

yes but the official E3 twitter account shared it to their audience of dedicated gamers and people in the industry

[@ShadowLynx777]

If you don't know anything about an industry, just stfu and write about something else. That simple.

[@lawrenceredmacher4382]

first line of the article: "“Girls love gaming just as much as men." ah yes, the two genders, men and girls. it's a sexist article. even if it was written by a woman. err, I mean a girl.

[@zebracakesmash]

The amount of times I’ve heard phil quote an apology and it ending with “we will do better” lmao

[@Romandy13]

I swear companies probably have apology templates lying around in their PR department.

[@ObserveOnly]

The hand wipe of DeJoy's picture at 10:19 is a master class in editing, bravo

[@The_Muznick]

Thank you for getting the word out about GDQ in TIA, I missed this video when it was posted because I was there donating money and enjoying the runs as I do for every event. Some extra info for anyone who may read this major GDQ events happen twice a year. In January they raise money for the Prevent Cancer Foundation and in the summer they raise money for Doctors Without Borders. They are usually the first week of January and the last week of June or early July, because of the pandemic though they had to change things up a bit but still managed to pull in $2.3 million total which IIRC brings the total they have raised for MSF to over $12 million. Thanks again for including this I feel its something positive which we are in short supply of right now.