The TRUTH abt Janet Jackson & James Debarge's Marriage per La Toya pt 18

[@HaliB75]

Yes, Nay, my family was the same. 18 is not some magic number that means you're grown. My mother used to say, “what makes Black people think that 18 means a child is grown?”

[@theydidthat9223]

This may be a poverty thing. Middle class people of color do not put their kids out there like that. But to be fair, 18 is legal age of adult so what they are saying is "as your parent I am no longer responsible for you after 18." Thats actually a true statement. I hope this makes sense.

[@elainewilliams5019]

No it's is just the law in America . Where your parents is no longer responsible for u. Only going f they want to. In Vegas the legal age is 16 years old.

[@theydidthat9223]

@@elainewilliams5019 what!? I did not know that! So folks graduate at 16 there? I guess I could google! 😂

[@elainewilliams5019]

@@theydidthat9223 Whether they graduate or not 16 years old in Vegas is the legal age.

[@true90skid]

@@elainewilliams5019 crazy because in America when you turn 18 you can legally move out. You can register to vote. You can buy and do porn. You can enlist in the military to fight for your country and possibly die. You can get married. You can play the lottery. But you can't buy cigarettes or alcohol 😭😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 you literally can have a full-time job, a wife and child to take care of, paying rent and car notes but can't buy a shot of liquor to de-stress on the weekend 😂😂😂 America is very backwards. Open them legs for playboy but can't have a drink to relax 😭😭😭

[@steviecritiquenewby7874]

Janet Jackson really love James Derbarge at the time she try to save him so he can get off the drugs 💯

[@cedricroney1475]

That's it Nay. She telling everyone's business but her own

[@nenep1872]

That's usually what happens

[@msnatural1000]

According to Babyface the DeBarges where hood and would set it off if you come for them.

[@dr.lorianne]

I heard them Debarges got hands too! They had to fight growing up….heard they’re the first to jump!😂

[@msgroovethang4995]

Right......Word on the streets was that those boys were a hot mess menace in Grand Rapids, Mi.😵

[@sylviamckinley266]

Hello Nay, LaToya is being very selective in what tea she spills about herself! I'm still finding this book very interesting and filled with mess! I like your personal input that you insert into this book review. It increases the interest. Have a beautiful day...

[@csmith2484]

Yes! I was thinking the same thing. We know everyone else's business but Latoya's.

[@stephanie3506]

Shiiiiiid I heard ALLLLLL them DeBarge's had HANDS!!! You gotta understand the Jacksons were sheltered, they may have fought with each other BUT the DeBarges were fighting ninjas in THE STREETS of the HOOD!!! They were constantly being tried and hated on because they were light skinned w/ "good hair". They were and still are STREET, plus they started going in and out of jail too.....I would put my money on the DeBarges in a family fight! 😆

[@MrMaxismybaby]

The DeBarges would win, hands down!

[@firandcurly84]

Ok let's have a vote who would win D for Debarge or J for Jackson

[@MrMaxismybaby]

@@firandcurly84 D

[@peachyqueen7856]

I think the Jackson men would handle them. Remember Loe taught them boys how to box because he was a bit of a boxer himself

[@keishalashon3863]

I willing to bet cheating is her non-negotiable because of what she saw happen to her mother.

[@aramassmith]

🤔..Great point!

[@nenep1872]

Definitely makes sense

[@TheMarkey999]

Janet def is a stubborn ass taurus! I'd know i am one too LMAO ... and like Leos, sometimes Taurus can be stubborn to avoid their pride being hurt.

[@lecuyerdooley1084]

I don't believe LaToya thought of Bobby DeBarge as anything other than a friend. In fact, I'm pretty sure LaToya did not have any sexual experiences until she was married to her husband and even then, it was not her desire to do so. She lived a sheltered life, and believed, like her mother and the JWs, that sex should be reserved for marriage.

[@ealanmontgomery2304]

Dang, Janet's marriage to James sounds like the hottest hot mess!! These Jackson kids seem so sheltered!! Latoya & Mike seem naive, but Janet is about that life!!

[@dh9690]

I just watched Janet's documentary. I think Latoya was right about how much Janet loved that man. In that documentary Janet cried over only 1 of her ex's, I think James is still the love of her life. 30+years later and she was crying like she knocked the pill bottle out of James's hand this morning.

[@Chrissy_Hills]

😂😂😂😂 lawd not this morning. She really did get choked up about James, she seemed like she was over Rene’s bs, but James made her tell them stop and she looked like she was about to burst out into tears. I think apart of me knew want’s to know what Janet knew about the DeBarge family dynamic. Did she know that he was severely abused by his brother?

[@nicki1091]

She is definitely good at pretending and putting on a facade to hide her true feelings I will give her that she definitely had me fooled but not anymore Let’s contemplate this in the documentary she was only on the verge of tears for James, micheal and her dad now for starters her dad and micheal have passed on but she continues to love, cherish and miss them even though they are no longer with us. Now the only difference with james is that she has to grieve someone who is still alive and because of his drug habit there is no finality because of a lack of closure. Now I’m just wondering why would you be sad 😔 and emotional 🥹 about a marriage that ended over a decade ago if you have made peace and accepted that he is no longer a part of your journey and nor do you want him to be.I feel that she has a lot of regrets when it comes to James no woman is going to be sad unless she misses him and wants to open lines of communication. Now In janet’s case she felt that James needed her because he was an addict and thats where she fucked up at she thought he would never walk away and even if he did that it would only be a matter a time before he contacted her but he hasn’t done so in over a decade so now she is stressing out on how to go towards him because of her past actions. Now why doesn’t she just go towards him you ask 1. She fears rejection 2. Janet has very low self esteem no matter how confident she comes across 3. And three she actually cares about what James thinks of her and she is afraid of his judgment of her past actions.

[@MrsK976]

@@nicki1091they were married 40 years ago now, not a decade ago

[@bayjahWhiteBleu]

Latoya needs to talk about her Life and relationship.

[@wintersantiago2274]

What does being light skinned with curly hair have to do with someone’s ability to fight?

[@sheisawarenow3753]

That’s right Nay…my family is the same way, relative to keeping the young ones close and safe. I’m in that situation now with my youngest daughter….she’s with this sort of “street” dude….you know the rest.😮. LaToya’s book is a good read.

[@missg1727]

I heard that the DeBarge family were really ghetto, up in the studio turn things up vandalizing vending machine, I heard that they really didn't know how to act. That would be a good family fight though, I think Michael would've whooped some ass myself🤣🤣

[@theydidthat9223]

I love your book club! Been watching for a minute now. Your celebrity book reviews are excellent. Strongly considering membership. I may after Christmas! Keep going!!

[@raycarter8070]

I know I was glued all last Sunday lol!

[@theydidthat9223]

@@raycarter8070 she is so good! Her personality is everything!

[@raycarter8070]

I agree too. It cracked me up when her and janet would get to together and talk! Love them!

[@coursecorrection4105]

Bobby and LaToya went out for a long time. LaToya not telling her business but describing how Janet had to take care of James. Was this the first time that James’s problem was revealed?

[@mysticakhenaton1701]

they met in 1977. and was still going out until around 1980. Bobby composed several songs proclaiming his love for Latoya. You And I. and, I Call Your Name/which was a BIG HIT for the band Switch on the R&B charts/a classic.

[@HaliB75]

Sing it, Nay, with the “White Rabbit” 🐇 LOL! Love that song! Go ask Alice! 😂❤

[@flyleelee5351]

"Debargees" 🤣....but yes, the rule was the be married to leave the house, but in Janet's case, she married a dude who wasn't provider material and couldn't support nobody, so it was wise for them to live at the Jackson family compound

[@themagicians1122]

He had money they were at top of charts then at Motown knock it off

[@flyleelee5351]

@@themagicians1122 yeah but he could barely could take care of himself as an addict... he had money but he didn't/couldn't "provide". He wasn't mentally stable to provide a secure home as an independent young man. He clearly couldn't provide if he was smoking is life away every night on skid row. His addictions took over his life. Duuuuh 🙄...So YOU knock it off with your simple ass thinking. "He had money he was signed to Motown!" How old are you, 10?

[@lisacox3750]

They had the money to live elsewhere, it was Janet who wanted to “play” wife but didn’t really want to move out of the comfort of her parent’s home. She wanted to be grown, but she didn’t really want to be grown. She has publicly admitted this. People have to remember as they are reading or listening along with the book that this is a 30 year old book. It’s hard to discuss a 30 year old and pretend we don’t know all the revelations that have come out since the book came out. I love the Bookclub idea…but it’s hard to not want to add insight to things that happened in the book like 40 years ago. When we know the truth now.

[@abundantlife1111]

I Absolutely ❤ ur Channel & ur personality! I'm reading Will now, have u reviewed that book on ur show? very inspiring book

[@liveperformances4641]

Nay, I see your "White Rabbit" pill reference. 🍄 If you and your wife are ever in Asheville NC come sing karaoke with TerraOke!😜

[@heavenawilson7271]

She loved him...Probably had no idea of his drug problems until after they where Married.. Latoya might not have known his brother had his issues too..People only show you their best selves sometimes... That can happen...it has happened to Women from all walks of life..

[@steviecritiquenewby7874]

Jackie Jackson and Jermaine Jackson use to fight all the time they had a little reality show after Michael Jackson died in 2009 like a couple of months later and I read a couple of biography books on them...

[@meghanwilliams4295]

Good Morning, Gorgeous...I'm here, and ready for the mess!🤗😂

[@Regulator_92]

You ain’t told a lie. Some people are fixated on drama and self destruction because that is what they are accustomed to.

[@Moneyemusic_unlimited]

Grand Rising Nay Rob! Fabulous Friday and weekend to you and yours ❣️

[@courtneysmith1558]

I don't know if the Jackson's would've been able to handle the DeBarge family. They could fight too and with them being light skinned had to fight often in their home town after being bullied due their looks at that time. The DeBarge boys don't play.

[@ediamonds366]

they also came from a home where their white French father abused them all.

[@ginaclame20]

I literally just ordered the book. You making me want to read it now 😭 because the tea is too interesting.

[@lwalker9378]

Good morning Nay! Happy Friday!!

[@animalview9204]

Janet said she had to get married. As if she had no choice. As if there was some pressing reason they had to wed. Furthermore, they both lived in the Jackson home and Joe put up with all of Jame's mess. I think she was pregnant. This would make sense as to why the family allowed James to go on like this for months and why she even married him in the first place.

[@missbee1451]

🎯

[@torch504]

Janet is a Taurus like me that’s how we are

[@mzquanlivinglife2139]

I'm a fellow Taurean myself ♉ 5/12

[@rodb66]

I'm a Taurus too. In fact, I'm 6 days older that Janet.

[@rodb66]

@kimberlyreese7736 Exactly!

[@jacluv7862]

Me 2, May 1st. We love hard & once we are done with someone we are done. I know I have loved some dudes just like James Debarge & had to leave because it got to be 2 much.

[@stephanie3506]

I don't think LaToya told or said much about she and Bobby DeBarge because I really don't think there is much to tell. From what I surmise Bobby had a crush on LaToya, as did many other men during that time. I don't think LaToya was feelin' Bobby like that. She knew they were cut from a different cloth and that wasn't what she liked. They MAY have gone out once or twice, but I doubt that they even dated at all for real. They probably talked over the phone. The public made more out of them as an item than what it really was because it is a cute story to believe that they had a relationship. All that about Bobby writing I Call Your Name for LaToya is really made up by fans, cause Gregory Williams (member and founder of Switch) said in his book that he and Bobby co-wrote the song together and Bobby made no mention of LaToya when they were writing the song. He said he never remembered Bobby dating LaToya back in the day.

[@JmeHayGreenz]

I swear Jermaine Dupri had always stated that he’s never had a drug issue so yano maybe stop saying he had a “drug problem” before he starts sending those cease and desists your way girl. Leave that to the DeBarges and ‘em. Lol.

[@jenniferwade7861]

She said "Except Jermaine Dupri" and that his problem was cheating.

[@marywilson6354]

Micheal talked him down off the roof once he tried to kill himself.

[@mysticakhenaton1701]

the family group/Debarge, came to Motown in 1979/NOT 1981. it was BOBBY DEBARGE that got them to Motown, NOT Jermaine. Bunny Debarge said this in a recent interview. Motown said Jermaine brought them to the company so people would take notice/pay attention. but it was really their BIG brother Bobby who did...those 2 musicals families/ The Jacksons and Debarge. go all the way back to the LATE 70's. knowing each other.

[@donjonestv]

@nay rob , hi 👋🏾 when are you doing part 19? you have me addicted to these stories LOL ❤

[@ccrdcd38]

She thought she could change him mistake alot of women make

[@realgreeneyegirlmarlow318]

Happy Friday ❤️ 😊

[@steviecritiquenewby7874]

I heard Jackie Jackson got hands

[@Millennial_Luxe]

Latoya with the 40 year old tea

[@msgroovethang4995]

Hi Nay, Is that your wife singing the song at the end???.....I've been so curious about that🤗

[@coursecorrection4105]

The Jacksons would have tore up the DeBarges. And Joe would have taken out a pow pow.

[@gwenperry2179]

Hats off to nays mom thats how its suppose tobe

[@elainewilliams5019]

Well I remember that Era very well. Janet Jackson did have a baby girl. Because it was all over the news media. Plus that magazine back in the day was call RIGHT ON. THAT'S Magazine back in the day. Had Janet Jackson pictures in it with her new baby girl. Then that was just one time an we never heard or seen her baby girl. Ever again, it was like she dispear. Then we all found out that Janet Jackson gave Her oldest sister her baby to raise. Janet Jackson did finance as child. But Janet never had a relationship with her daughter at all. Janet Jackson move on with her music career. An got a divorce from debarge. Because he was a drug addicted.

[@lisacox3750]

You are correct. It was in the news that she had a baby girl. People swear I lie about everything in these comments…lol. They think I lie and hate on Michael. I have no reason to make stuff up…and I’m glad you also remember the article about Janet’s daughter. People will swear up and down we are both crazy!

[@elainewilliams5019]

@@lisacox3750 Nope we have our sanity. An we know the truth.

[@tonyamontgomery2733]

Rebbie has two daughters and a son. She was pregnant with the son around that time. The daughters Stacee and Yashi were born in the 70s. Austin was born in 1985.

[@smusicluv]

I am so glad someone besides me remembers the photo of a very pregnant Janet with the caption congratulating them both. I wished I kept it. It was in the Right On magazine. I collected them religiously as a pre-teen

[@ediamonds366]

@@lisacox3750 i remember seeing that in right on mag and they saying thats the reason she left Fame.Rebe's daughter looks like her.

[@HighlyFavor3dWon]

Lawd lookin at this last shot Latoya REALLY got her 👃 shaved DOWN, DAYUM 👀

[@sonyarowe1906]

good job!

[@gwenperry2179]

i love how nay sniffs out lies and bull crack and everyone said she was pregnant by debarge i think that was true i think she miscarried

[@nenep1872]

Yeah probably, but she ain't gonna say if any of that is true or not...

[@denisehenry3427]

Yes that is probably what happen. People still trying to find a grown-up person.

[@kiefferz5556]

James debarge admitted him and Janet had a baby together

[@HiMynamesNece]

People say Janet has an older daughter with him Brandi the girl I think Tito or one of the boys raised

[@nenep1872]

Brandi is Jackie adopted daughter, Stevaeanna or something like that which is Randy daughter (that's who they say is her daughter)

[@HiMynamesNece]

@@nenep1872 yup cause she looks just like them both. I know in the south we say feed them until they look like you but damn, you know.

[@lisacox3750]

Brandi is the supposed "adopted" daughter of Jackie and Enid. Who knows the truth on that one. Brandi has been asked about it and maintains Jackie and Enid were her biological parents. She is very aware that people think she is Janet's daughter and it annoys her. Brandi was the first one that people suspected was really Janet's daughter because they spent a lot of time together. When Brandi was little she was in commercials overseas with Janet. People thought that meant something. In more recent years, people have assumed Stevanna (Randy's daughter) was really Janet's daughter which is not even mathematically possible.

[@HiMynamesNece]

@@lisacox3750 Maybe she is and is not telling, I mean it's their secret to keep or tell. People are going to still say it. That family is so secretive especially now that people saw mj body are saying it wasn't him and his kids dropping hints to say he isn't dead. They even say Brandon is his love child with the lady he wrote Billie Jean about. I don't care I just like mysteries

[@lisacox3750]

@@HiMynamesNece I know what you mean. I like mysteries too. There are so many when it comes to the Jacksons.

[@dawngrey7053]

I meant to type, ‘I Gotta Know,’ by James DeBarge.

[@gwenperry2179]

latoya was with the worst one

[@msgroovethang4995]

Yeah......seems like Bobby truly had ISSUES!😳

[@toccarapitts6422]

Facts Nay Latoya spilling tea on everyone but her own. Happy New Year!!!

[@Tamzbongeaux]

Jackie, Tito, randy, and Janet where fighters . Jackie & Tito had missing teeth from fighting Motown had to have their teeth done.remember in movie joe made Jackie whip that guy. Janet has captain save a 🥷 mentality .

[@timmy841212]

The Jacksons weren’t gonna do anything to James lol

[@torch504]

Yes Latoya was messing with Bobby… the song I call your name was about Latoya. But that was before he became Positive, I was wondering when they stop going together

[@mitzithompson6585]

Huh? Latoya had a thing with Bobby. I never heard that before 🤔

[@virgochild4216]

@@mitzithompson6585 YES she did.

[@mitzithompson6585]

I shouldn't be surprised

[@ediamonds366]

it was a part in the movie where bobby and toya were with Janet when she picked James up after a show taping

[@ceasarogrant3829]

DeBargies?!!! 😂🤣😂😂

[@FreddieBlaze]

It's a shame that James & Bobby didn't stay with Janet & Latoya bcuz they would of made some beautiful babies. God bless & protect them all!🙏

[@jewelminor5526]

Janet Mirrored Her MOTHER behavior.

[@jakimsingletary164]

How ?

[@marywilson6354]

She got annulment not a divorce her family made her get annulment

[@joshuamcdowell9745]

The Jackson boys wasn't gonna do ish to James. They are soft except for Tito. The DeBarges would effortlessly whoop their asses. Janet's last husband and son's father Wissam was verbally abusive towards her. Randy said that Wissam would call her out of her name. I can believe it. Wissam is Muslim. Muslim men are very controlling and have outdated views on women. Janet didn't perform or release any music for a minute while she was with Wissam. When she did come back and released her Unbreakable album, it wasn't the same Janet. She was covered up and her music wasn't sexual. You know Janet is known for being risqué in her music and on stage. The Unbreakable era was a complete departure from the Janet we've known and loved.

[@mitzithompson6585]

I felt the same way about her music it wasn't her at all!! I'm glad she got away from him

[@55thst_rojos]

I was going to say the same, the DeBarge still got hands, I remember Chico stabbing the guy up in Philly and Tommy book tells how they and the black side and white side beat arses they didn’t play. As for Muslim men being controlling their no more controlling then any other man, you have to think Janet put herself out there marrying him a billionaire what man of wealth any religion would want his wife out there half dressed for the world to see and I have enough money to have her living comfortable, that’s not the life Janet wanted but perhaps the money may have overtaken her morals and beliefs and that may have been a major conflict after the glitz and glamour phase was over.

[@estherepps6914]

she got older also

[@Sherryrice4149]

We know she liked it the bad boys. James and Bobby and Jermaine dupri. Yeah she played like she all sweet and innocent and shy. Hell I bet you messing around with Missy Elliott now. 🤷🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️😔☺️ They supposed to be besties and Janet is flying to the steak she's in. We all heard about what Missy would do. 😏☺️

[@juschris79]

Sweet? Innocent? Shy? You should see more of her interviews, watch more of her concerts, look at her videos. She is not and does not try to be innocent. She is initially shy, but she says all the time after you get to know her, she’s definitely not shy.

[@steviecritiquenewby7874]

Yeah Jermaine Dupri and Janet Jackson should have stayed together I said the same thing he got a good career in the music business and still doing this thing right now in the music business...

[@jacquelinemcgrady7784]

Right Bobby Debrage

[@MichaelaMommy]

Wow

[@phillycheez6288]

DeBarges vs. Jacksons 🤔🤔idk who would win that... Theyboth crazy af..😁😂no offense. I 🤎🤎both families, but DeBarges were notorious for trashing hotel rooms on the road. One time, they took down a vending machine because it didn't release whatever they were trying to buy. 🤷🏾‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️

[@2463sugarbear]

You never know, the deBarges had a Lot pent up rage and anger. Their father beat them and their mom from time they were babies and put them against each other and raped them and made them have sex with each other. James was his favorite so they beat him the most in jealousy. They were all addicts and Bobby was bi as a result. I think the Jacksons might've lost against all that malfunction.

[@beautifullyflawed6723]

Both families has an abusive father and lived in a harsh home environment; however extremely talented. The Jackson I’m sure did things but ppl where scared back then to speak up against Joe, as he was their manager for the longest. I will say I enjoyed both families music, but Debarge more than the Jackson’s. I was and am a HUGE fan of Janet’s. I have to admit Debarge family had a gift of song; just raw talent. In a documentary they said EVERY single one of the 10 children can sing! The Jackson’s can’t say that. Michael and Janet really carried them through. I just saw Mark Debarge on his KZbin channel singing in bed lying down. He sounded like an angel and the man was chilling on a pillow. That’s a gift from God. Both families suffered in some form or shape from either, drugs, alcohol, or toxic relationships. I’ve watched Janet’s documentary several times. I’m beyond happy for her that she was able to finally be a mom and have the amazing career that she’s had. I’m incredibly proud of Elle for getting back out there and working on his music. He did a Phenomenal job on Tiny desk.

[@sethsinclair3157]

Janet's a Taurus...we can get real handsy if we need to...

[@jacquelinemcgrady7784]

Love Janet but Latoya make seem like innocent. What have she said & done

[@EasyPersuasionTPS]

Jackie got hands too