The Truth Behind Leaving Abortion Rights Up to States

[@suek.1507]

They are for state's rights when it's something they agree with.

[@LeftvsReich]

Conservatives prove every single day that they've literally NEVER changed since they were crying about "states rights" to own slaves. Same exact people, different generation. They are pure societal cancer the likes of which topples empires from the inside out.

[@fufrRs]

Or, in DJT's case, when you don't really have an answer, or don't want to give an answer because you want to please please all sides and get votes. 🤷‍♀️ I'll leave that up to the states.

[@polemius01]

Like slavery.

[@angelainamarie9656]

Conservatives have used 'states' rights' as a means of holding the rest of us back for decades. We need to end that concept and make it clear that people's rights are not state-by-state determinations. That voids the whole concept of being a 'free citizen' and makes America into a bunch of little fiefdoms. Unacceptable.

[@aliciahughley7508]

Same as when it comes to the Bible…they cherry pick.

[@tomlavelle2333]

When someones loyalty to a felon and proven lier is greater than their love for their country, its laws, and constitution, they are the problem.

[@justiceprevail1552]

When an administration is destroying our Country, our rights, our Constitution like the corrupt Biden administration, and people will still vote for them, then they are either stupid or brainwashed, and do not care about anything.

[@JoSwan555]

Pro-life is womb to tomb. So, what about our veterans? What about the homeless? What about free lunches for children? What about combatting mental illness and drug addiction? The list goes on and on.

[@sylviarucker4658]

These are the issues they need to confront. But know they have to fabricate an issue.,

[@216cheri1]

You know what George Carlin said; they want live babies so they can have dead soldiers

[@debhurd8898]

The problem with "them," though, is they're only pro-life for womb babies. After they're born, tuff luck. Be hungry, sick, poor.....

[@Chick-inslacks]

Right and most blatantly what about the woman?? It’s nuts!

[@ladylaurus8493]

@@JoSwan555 forced pregnancy is literally a form of enslavement, it always has been a way for abusers to chain their victims to themselves for at least 18 years

[@dodiewallace41]

Human rights should not be up to the states. Bodily autonomy is as fundamental a human right as it gets, without BA we are not autonomous humans who belong to ourselves. Human rights like slavery, universal adult suffrage and our right of ownership of ourselves should not be considered optional but our rights as humans.

[@charlesmartin7536]

and that was a part of Roe, as well as some of HIPAA(I think it was HIPAA at least). an expectation of privacy in discussion with healthcare, as well as diagnosis and treatment. current court appears to be ready to require anything anyone does to be reported to the government for adjudication.

[@jinxiejae]

GILEAD IS UPON US!!!! VOTE BLUE!!!!

[@LeftvsReich]

Conservatives prove every single day that they've literally NEVER changed since they were crying about "states rights" to own slaves. Same exact people, different generation. They are pure societal cancer the likes of which topples empires from the inside out.

[@nicholasgallanis7539]

This whole "state's rights" is more akin to wanting 50 different countries like Europe & not a united states of America.

[@imperialmotoring3789]

No, USA is a Republic of 50 United States. The federal government exists because of the states. Ther states do not exist because of the federal government.

[@SaraGrant-xj4lr]

True , We are the United States of America 🇺🇸! United We Stand Divided We Fall ! The Un Supreme Court has forgotten this and one of them is an Constitutional Scolar who took an oath to uphold Roe and Wade ! Bought and payed for by trump and the NRA, the most baby killers in America 🇺🇸 !

[@angelainamarie9656]

It's a way local corrupt conservative governments can override social progress and hold the entire country back.

[@GavinCooper05]

No it's literally to have state rights and not big government to dictate everything

[@angelainamarie9656]

@@GavinCooper05 that's so weird because the very first thing that the state did with their rights was to have government dictate what women could do with their bodies it's almost like you don't mean a single thing you say. 😂😂😂. Like do you hear the argument you're making for the thing that you're making it for?

[@octosalias5785]

Their opinion depends on if it benefits them, that's all. They want to be able to pick and choose, so their mistress can abort and you cant. So their kid can get caught smoking and you cant.

[@fufrRs]

Oh...such an on point remark!

[@thomasobrien1213]

That's how they view the Bible also. They pick and choose what applies to them.

[@Kimm.J]

We celebrate our birthday, not our conception day. There are 2 forms of legal documentation that show the span of a human life. BIRTH certificate - that's when we take life giving air into and out of our lungs. When that air flow stops, that date goes on the 2nd.. Death certificate. Which also includes your BIRTH date. No conception date or time is recognized... Anywhere.

[@averycheesypotato]

We don’t make men pay child support for fetuses either…

[@jamestaylor3805]

​@@averycheesypotatoactually financing natal health care is often court ordered if taken to court at that point...

[@imperialmotoring3789]

Good point. Birthright citizenship must be denied to all anchor babies.

[@truthache8560]

Yet science and bioethics tell us when life actually begins. Why do we need to “trust the science” until it disagrees with lefties?

[@averycheesypotato]

@@jamestaylor3805 natal care as in hospital bills, not child support

[@brotherlonewolf4182]

Make pro-life-until-birth hypocrites NOT great again! SPREAD THE WORD! Vote blue, and be sure to call, write, or email your representative and demand that the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact gets passed in your state NOW!

[@imperialmotoring3789]

You think I should have to provide for you just because your mother didn't abort you? Wow, so weak.

[@LeftvsReich]

Conservatives prove every single day that they've literally NEVER changed since they were crying about "states rights" to own slaves. Same exact people, different generation. They are pure societal cancer the likes of which topples empires from the inside out.

[@crismcdonough2804]

If you're pro life, you should be required to donate blood, bone marrow and a kidney. Who wants to introduce that bill?

[@GavinCooper05]

The left has mental problems

[@cs-zz7jd]

And adopt kids.

[@benu_bird]

And be a forced organ donor upon death as well as a cadaver for medical research.

[@LeftvsReich]

Conservatives prove every single day that they've literally NEVER changed since they were crying about "states rights" to own slaves. Same exact people, different generation. They are pure societal cancer the likes of which topples empires from the inside out.

[@LeftvsReich]

​@@GavinCooper05Not the least bit true, but if lying helps you sleep at night...

[@AmericanBrit9834]

Pro-choice! What anti-choice doesn’t realize is that they don’t have to get the procedure. IT’S THEIR CHOICE.

[@07Flash11MRC]

Pro-lifers don't want women to have a choice, much less girls.

[@727Phoenix]

Should states be able to decide whether slavery should remain legal? Or does the federal government have the right to take that away from the states? I believe there was a big fight over that one.🤔

[@benu_bird]

Wow. I hadn't even thought about that one. 13th amendment thrown back to the states?

[@The-KP]

Yes, but let's call it something else.. "Internship"... "Working off your debt to the State"... "Indentured servitude"... "Repayment of room and board". Marketing to improve the optics

[@gaiagreen2690]

Well, Roe is gone so after the Supreme Christotaliban are finished with a few minor issues like allowing bribes, banning homelessness and criminalizing being transgender, the race issue is definitely coming back on the table. Banning the elections as well. Just give them time.

[@ggggloveking9419]

Someone needs a history lesson 😂😂😂😂

[@farialmab4723]

I wonder if the 13th Amendment can help directly with this current enslavement of women? 🤔 since their bodies and Lives are treated as property of The State.

[@jchrist9800]

It’s pretty easy to refute the argument that states being able to enact literally any laws they want and govern themselves exclusively and without any checks and balances is ‘how things are supposed to be run’: Abraham Lincoln strongly disagrees.

[@delanajosey4867]

Vote blue 💙 vote blue 💙

[@shaddozer0ne115]

To advocate for states' rights and still want it to be called the United States is beyond stupid.

[@DigiVixen]

Yeah... I was thinking the same sort of thing. If it's all states rights, and no across the board federal/countrywide rule/regs/laws/rights then why be united at all?

[@batriley6208]

That's exactly right. We are 50 States that have United and agreed to work together as one country. The Constitution is the agreement between the states. Anything not in the Constitution or agreed by the states in federal law is left up to the states to decide. That's why every state has a different drivers license and traffic laws for example.

[@langreeves6419]

​@@batriley6208And that is insane When they wrote the constitution they did not think how people would be driving from one state through another state commonly every day. Each state also has different regulations of how long a trailer can be and how a trailer has to be attached. Or how long a boat can be and how it can be attached To think that you have to understand fifty different sets of driving rules and fifty different sets of ways to make your car legal..... Insanity

[@07Flash11MRC]

Exactly. What are those states united in, then? Speaking English is the only thing all states have in common, lol. Beyond that...?

[@shaddozer0ne115]

@07Flash11MRC Federal laws. Income taxes. Social safety network. Emergency response. Military... There are many things that bind the States together, but when you isolate them, chaos will ensue. Then we will be right back to where it all started. Just like that Purge episode of Rick and Morty.

[@carljones9640]

"Letting each state decide what they want" isn't how the contry is supposed to be ran. It's supposed to be ran with certain recognitions of inalienable rights, as in no one gets a say in them. In fact, they wouldn't even start the country until they agreed to put at least 10 things that couldn't just be voted away into the Constitution. We've since added a few more, and ruled that many things fall under the scope of those explicitly written. Abortions were one of those things until a handful of religious zealots forced their beliefs on all of us, which incidentally is a violation of not just the 14th Amendment but the 1st as well. Turns out that the "leave it to the states!" people have no idea how our government actually works, in any particular way. Shocking, huh?

[@07Flash11MRC]

Notice how (as of right now at least) it's only women and girls who don't hove those inalianable rights? Every other male group are perfectly save and first class citizens.

[@kristie825]

The comment about leaving gun control to the states is, unfortunately, the argument that MIGHT make people at least think about the obsurdity of leaving reproductive healthcare rights to states. However, since it is only women who face this undignified situation, most won't concede to that parallel 🤨

[@9Johnny8]

Isn't gun control already at least partially up to the states though? I am not from the US, but I hear about Open Carry and Conceiled Carry states.

[@GavinCooper05]

​@@9Johnny8yes it is 😂

[@CanItAlready]

​@@9Johnny8For the most part, yes, but there are some who don't think any state should be allowed to restrict access to guns or that the federal government should be allowed to restrict access to weapons used by the military such as bazookas and tanks.

[@CanItAlready]

They'll just point to the second amendment and stop listening.

[@CanItAlready]

They'll just refer you to the second amendment and stick their fingers in their ears.

[@Jin420]

"Pro- life" until they're born & start breathing... 😒

[@DragonJ-ui9gg]

Yup once your born these so called pro life people don’t want to know about you until you can join the military.

[@JebusHypocristosX]

Anti-choice terrorists want control not reason.

[@yolyprog2561]

Exactly

[@randominternetuser2888]

Unborn are not citizens and have no constitutional rights. Alive tax paying citizens do.

[@Chick-inslacks]

Unless they’re going to do one of those “after birth abortions”. 😵‍💫🤤🫠🫥

[@marylhere]

They care about the baby like they care about the troops…until they come out alive.

[@Melora84]

Painful but true. This coming from a liberal- I wish they put as much passion into assisting and helping retired Vets as they did for the ‘unborn’

[@ld3511]

As a woman and a retired RN the states should NEVER dictate health care. Doctors and patients Must do that not effing ignorant politicians. Vote ladies💙

[@rollingpebble7210]

@@ld3511 vote so you can continue to encourage the infanticide of the future generations in this country? You’re anti American.

[@rob8872]

Why not go for county rights? Or city rights? Or family rights? Yeah! Let’s let families and their doctors decide. Oh wait, we already had that.

[@judymoore8841]

If men could get pregnant, the laws would change fast.

[@byecatsstacey7467]

As long as it means they have absolute power & control over women - they are for it, Just like slavery remains a "state's rights" issue for these very same people who want a return to 'when America was great', right? Power over & ownership of certain groups of other humans. I'll pass on that and vote blue, thanks.

[@ggggloveking9419]

Its almost like you need a history lesson

[@maresnite]

Well put. ❤️✌️

[@BoebertsDentist]

Tubal reanastomosis, is a surgical procedure that can reverse a tubal ligation, in about 1% of cases. The procedure involves reconnecting the fallopian tubes, but it's not always possible if the tubes are too damaged or there's not enough left. Vasectomies, on the other hand can be reversed with a success rate of 60-95%. A female can only get pregnant ONCE in 9 months. A male can cause multiple pregnancies EVERYDAY. Yet, it's always been "control the females" - with ZERO control over male bodies. All males should be forced to get a vasectomy upon hitting puberty if the point is to reduce abortions of unwanted pregnancies.

[@jamesparson]

And the government should pay for it.

[@Kimm.J]

Yes and look which gender statistically that are lined up incarcerated for NOT controlling themselves sexually.

[@BoebertsDentist]

@@jamesparson 🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯

[@benu_bird]

Ah, you would love "A Model Proposal."

[@LeftvsReich]

Conservatives prove every single day that they've literally NEVER changed since they were crying about "states rights" to own slaves. Same exact people, different generation. They are pure societal cancer the likes of which topples empires from the inside out.

[@derpgeez]

All rights come with responsibilities as well. If states individually want to enact laws in the name of 'protecting the kids' they have a responsibility to acknowledge the leading cause of child mortality, and get that under control first.

[@benc.enlots]

Leading cause of child mortality is EXACTLY what you support. Pretending it isn't a child doesn't change that.

[@johnmartinez9893]

They are willing to change the constitution except the gun part... they can take away human rights but any legislation on gun control people loose thier minds.

[@GavinCooper05]

That's not the leading cause of child mortality

[@benc.enlots]

@@derpgeez Anytime it is pointed out that in utero fetacide is actually the biggest threat to a child's life, the comment is instantly removed. Somebody is scared of the truth.

[@benc.enlots]

@@derpgeez The real number one can't be posted because it goes directly against the narrative promulgated by the left and is instantly removed. So scared to have that dialogue that censorship is the only recourse!

[@Chick-inslacks]

I read the comment, saw you and KNEW it would be good! Your grace (which I didn’t fully expect) made it that much better. Bravo my fellow Illinoisian! ❤

[@maryjohartwell5580]

Great post. Vote Blue.

[@reddmv5445]

I adore this man.

[@TheCeruleanSea]

States rights, but only if they agree with them.

[@todd3205]

Isn't it funny that the commenter [mentioned here] can't write ONE SENTENCE without spelling and grammatical errors? But, I bet you $20 the commenter EXPECTS you to respect them for their intelligence.

[@jenniferhill9924]

❤❤❤❤❤

[@lucyk2371]

Good point ❤

[@Tad-For-Global-Peace]

Excellent point

[@yvetteblack9370]

Hand Maids Tail 😢 or My Body - My Choice 🥰

[@todd3205]

Beautifully said.

[@paulzammataro7185]

Yeah, let's see WTF happens when states start passing Viagra laws or vasectomy laws!!

[@endoraismygma]

One of the few accounts I miss from TT. He's always supportive and spot on with the facts. 💙💙💙

[@The-KP]

This channel, amirite? Good content 👏

[@miajohnson1428]

Wouldn't it be a different tune being sung if say some men that have multiple children with multiple women and aren't keeping up with child support are told to have vasectomy?

[@raymonddhedrick9587]

The only rights they believe in is their rights no one else deserves rights

[@mikjb]

Thank you!!! People do not think this stuff through all the possibilities.

[@Baddestchik911]

What if the government/states say men should get vasectomies at the age of 18 and only reverse it if he gets married 🤔 they would flip out. Abortions in a lot of instances are necessary. D&C's help those who organically lose a pregnancy and in order to not contract an infection or get sepsis they have to remove the dead fetus and remnants of the pregnancy from the woman's body.

[@carlosbond5062]

He makes a lot of sense, as usual!

[@Leslie-es5ij]

Nor should the constitution end at a state border. What's wrong with this country ?

[@kdclothes]

So so much.

[@lukewise777]

AMEN, AMEN, AMEN!!!

[@myleswelnetz6700]

You know what right had also been left up to the States? The right to own other human beings.

[@lindayoung6845]

If a state government is telling you what to do against your rights, then that's when the Federal government is supposed to step in and insure that your rights are upheld.

[@mirrrie]

The most hilarious (If the whole situation wasn't horrible for women and their loved ones) is that since Dobbs there have been more abortions than before Roe got overturned. Which is logical cause who in a normal state of mind want's to be pregnant in a red state but honestly who wants to be pregnant at all if you aren't rich in the US

[@marcus813]

How do we go from leaving it to the states to wanting it to be banned nationwide? I swear so many in the GOP are talking out of both sides of their mouths on this issue.

[@cfmpam498230]

If thats was true we should drop the United in our country's name !!!

[@GoliathGrowler]

I've said this before and I'll say it again: Proponents of "state's rights" really want an excuse to not obey federal law.

[@thomasobrien1213]

Why is a womans right to choose dictated by a man? This man in the comments seems pretty iliterate judging by the way he writes.

[@kellygroves5213]

States should not be allowed to take away the *basic human rights* of anyone! 💙WE'RE NOT GOING BACK 💙

[@carollund8251]

Whoever wrote that reply should go back to school. " That is how our country is supposed to be " ran"???

[@user-friendlyish]

Thats the same Notion the Confederates had in Keeping slavery legal Tardo.

[@randominternetuser2888]

This 👆 is propaganda straight from David Duke. Unborn aren't people as they have no names and corresponding paperwork. Unborn have no constitutional rights. But you want to take rights from tax paying citizens. You're a hypocrite and a liar.

[@Carback27]

There is a 0% chance that the person who left that comment understood anything you just said.

[@mikeames1427]

Interesting comments. What if a state decides the only allowed birth control is a vasectomy?

[@CollinsCorp]

Thank you❤

[@Mark73]

Literally every time everyone has cried "states rights", it's been about taking rights away from individuals.

[@toddspod.womenansgod7161]

Encourage this guy to stay in school. Please.

[@meredithheath5272]

Tom Powell - yep!!! You are so correct!!

[@xstlady52]

As was done with slavery? That worked well, didn't it?

[@patriciaobrien6600]

Excellent response to that comment! I like your approach and the lack of emotion. ❤❤❤

[@jstone247]

Why would females in certain states have more or less rights than those in other states. A citizen is a CITIZEN of the U.S.A. Rights should be applied equally.

[@Michelle-hf6pj]

So true what you said about men a state could deside for men's bodily atonamy I pray that they think about the woman in there lives!

[@yvonnesantiago7637]

I think the states should outlaw Viagra. A woman’s right to choose should be between the woman, her doctor and her husband or partner.

[@Motherof4-26]

Yup, alllllllllll that!

[@skreekarose3610]

That comment looked like it was written by a five year old-“abolition”, “tardo”, JFC!

[@Transicorn]

You should never ever force someone have a child.

[@hawkweed]

For the sake of argument, let's say a fertilized egg is a human being. The question is: does any human have the right to use another human as a life support system? Speaking of fertilized eggs: are all those fertilized IVF eggs going to end up in safe baby boxes for the tax payers to support?

[@larry3064]

I wonder how people would feel if men were being forced to get a vasectomy to prevent impregnation ?

[@Princess-Um]

There was no truth given as stated in the title, but yes. States should decide over everything except international trade, interstate infrastructure, and defense. That's it's purpose; it sure butt out of the rest. We need to go back to basics and strip the government down to bare minimum.

[@jackiehathaway793]

People just Vote wake up and vote like it's your last breath 💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊

[@mssusanmarie]

I'm afraid your questions are far too complex for the simple minds of those being asked to consider them. But I thank you for articulating the point. VOTE BLUE 🇺🇸💙

[@kennethnorman8079]

States rights enable people to marry their own first cousins, play with Mercury, and eat paint chips. Sometimes big brother needs to step in and save the states from their own stupidity. 10 Commandments in Louisiana anyone?

[@sharonkaufman2748]

What about states rights when Colorado took their leader off the ballot?

[@patriciamillin1977]

Excellent point!

[@teannettemajor1609]

Tell them!!!

[@kathrinepearson7528]

If they are stare decisions, why is it a fight to get it moved to a vote of all the citizens of that state? Legislators are just enacting these bans with no input from it's residents. Hiw is that right?

[@echomikekilo63]

Here’s a thought: how about leaving the choice between a woman and her doctor?

[@matthewhelsley2840]

Someone casually throwing ablist insults as part of their "argument" isn't really interested in policy, abstract questions about division of power between various levels of government, and the rights of individuals. They just want to feel like they're part of a sports team that's winning points regardless of how those points are obtained.

[@cheryal6661]

Conservatives want outgroups that have no legal protection to follow the laws. They also want ingroups that follow no laws but have legal protection. Vote Blue for democracy. Vote BLUE for FREEDOM. 🔵🔵🔵🔵

[@jodyhall8731]

Hypocrisy, constantly

[@kuistancfraine3488]

Yup, let's have the states outlaw ed drugs.

[@AtheistAndMythology]

Summary: “I want what I want, and you shut up about it.”

[@irenejohansen1370]

Good questions.

[@dustin612]

You dont want any law regulating what you can do with your body. I wasn't cool with being forced to take a shot to keep my job and a roof over my head.

[@GoblinsMom]

Vote 💙 to stop unwanted presidencies!!! 🇺🇸💙🗳️💙🇺🇸

[@erincoco612]

How can you think that a body of government...allows you the right to dictate BODILY AUTONOMY is NOT a democracy. So please take a HIKE.

[@tammiespencer4306]

BLUE 🔵 🔵 🔵 LISTEN AMERICANS. WE MUST COME TOGETHER OUR COUNTRY AND DEMOCRACY AND JUDICIAL SYSTEM DEPENDS ON IT. I NEVER IN MY LIFE THOUGHT I WOULD EVER SEE THIS BEAUTIFUL COUNTRY BEING DESTROYED BY THE REPUBLICANS AND MAGA WHATEVER THE H- - - THAT MADE UP WORD MEANS. IM WITH JOE BIDEN ALL THE WAY. BLUE 🔵💙🔵

[@warrenp.5916]

It’s what they want, not what we want. Can’t have it both ways conservatives!

[@jeepguy4499]

Well spoken. Logic is lost on that side it seems.

[@billiwickey]

States rights are the reason the OG Constitution said blacks counted as 3/5ths of a white male. If you are "pro life" do you believe that parents should be able withhold any medical treatment including but not limited to insulin and antibiotics from their children? Literally the only difference is whether the "child" is in the mother's womb or her arms.

[@Jill-K]

What about a ban on viagra or forced vasectomies till you can prove you can afford to care for a child 🤷‍♀️

[@robertwindle1838]

I see a smart dead head been their know that!!🎉

[@mariahclaar7915]

Bertha 💙⚡️❤️

[@lv67890]

Arguing a point with logic is your first mistake. Fascists only understand one thing and it doesn’t involve talking.

[@kdclothes]

Sheep. 1850 is past.

[@aaronjjacques]

Roe v Wade was a PRIVACY ruling, not a body autonomy ruling. If it was a body autonomy ruling, the body autonomy rights (right to life) would have to be balanced against body autonomy (right to choose). Viability would be the demarcation point if it was a body autonomy argument.

[@naomihatfield3015]

The very fact that you are splitting hairs about the basis for Roe means you are perfectly aware that this is a decision that SHOULD be left to a woman and her doctor, but you want SOME justification for telling her “no, you can’t because the law wasn’t written better.” Would you be okay with such an important decision in YOUR life being micromanaged by others in that same way?

[@aaronjjacques]

@naomihatfield3015 it was with the Vax mandate, and it was biden who argued that privacy was NOT a constitutional right. Trmp may want to claim responsibility for getting rid of roe but only happened AFTER biden successfully defeated the privacy argument when fighting for his OSHA mandates. At best it is 1% trump 99% biden.

[@aaronjjacques]

@naomihatfield3015 btw I am a believer in the viability as a demarcation point. That 24 weeks. If you want to save more babies invest in technology/medical innovation that reduces that window.

[@gilliantohver3225]

A full-formed human with thoughts and feelings is objectively more important than a fetus, which is vacuous and unthinking and unfeeling until at least 16 weeks gestation when nerves begin to develop in the developing body. A pregnant person is always more important than a fetus because they are a fully realized human being. They tip the scales 100% of the time.

[@charlesmartin7536]

viability was adjudicated in later rulings. upheld Roe, but made some distinctions of viability for later terminations.

[@kristinaparker5597]

I couldn't get past the abolitions part...then follows it up with tardo. It's this reason I can't take someone like that seriously. Because they're not trying to have a serious and civil conversation, they're running up to the battle line to spew nonsensical rhetoric.