The Truth Conductor Joins Jesse! (Ep. 322)

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The Fallen State

The Fallen State

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On this week's episode of TheFallenState TV, host Jesse Lee Peterson is joined by Don Folden-Better known as The Truth Conductor, he is a black history historian who conducts black history tours around Washington D.C. Jesse admires Don because he is of the "old school". During the interview, Don reveals that he is about the same age as Jesse and despite the struggles he's been faced with, he continues to maintain his strong entrepreneurial spirit! They discuss black history, slavery, Jim Crow, anger, forgiveness, mess, and much more! Tune in on Friday at 12 Noon Pacific Time / 3:00 PM Eastern Time to catch our Premiere!
How to find Don - ‪@foldend‬:
Website: capitalbuddytours.com
Facebook: / truthconductor
Twitter: / _truthconductor
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00:00 Start
00:25 Guest Intro
01:18 Welcome to The Fallen State!
01:41 The Truth Conductor
02:05 Black History tours of D.C.
03:26 Don is from the “old school”
04:00 Don’s business is not doing too well
04:40 Don is 70 years old
05:50 Don wants to be independent
07:10 What’s good about Don?
08:14 “No man is good”
09:42 Is life simple?
09:58 Is Don a Christian?
10:38 How did Don become a Christian?
11:46 Accepting Jesus as your Lord and Savior
13:26 Don learned to accept Jesus at church
14:00 Does Don have anger?
14:16 The Ying and the Yang
15:02 There’s a little bad in everything that’s good
15:58 Does God get mad?
17:12 Is there a little good in Satan?
18:52 Karma
19:11 What’s wrong in the black community?
19:50 “The system” is keeping them down
21:58 Greed and ignorance in the black community
22:29 Former slaves formed Liberia
24:20 The division in America
25:25 Do black people have to be 2-3 times better than whites?
27:45 "The system Jesse"
28:55 Before 1835
29:31 The 1852 Runaway Slaves Act
29:57 Why black people accept welfare
31:25 Why not teach black people to be independent?
31:45 Don created a dinnerware line
32:54 "You're scared of commitment Jesse"
34:07 What's wrong in the black community continued
35:54 Don doesn't like JLP's tone toward blacks
36:10 What does racism look like?
37:14 Does Don believe in white suprem*cy?
38:46 Don believes he is still enslaved
40:24 Who was Don closer to while growing up?
41:55 Has Don forgiven his mother?
43:36 Did Don vote for the Great White Hope?
45:58 Do you love white people?
46:34 Does God love bad people?
47:47 Should black people get reparations?
49:15 Was America built on free black labor?
50:00 Was the Civil Rights Movement good?
52:26 What is a man?
52:56 Would a man blame another man for his situation?
54:41 Is Jesus God or the Son of God?
57:08 🔥 THE HOT SEAT 🔥
58:43 How to find Don
59:27 Credits
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@ambientsoundz7222
@ambientsoundz7222 11 ай бұрын
This is the PERFECT example of diving inside the victimhood mentality… I’m so glad I didn’t go through life blaming others for my personal situation
@mrf1213
@mrf1213 5 ай бұрын
Take a shot every time he said "Jesse".
@rickfrias8652
@rickfrias8652 11 ай бұрын
This interview almost killed me 😂 😂 😂 havent laughed so hard in a awhile this was gold lol
@peg2
@peg2 11 ай бұрын
Yeah!🤣🤣🤣
@jeffny9
@jeffny9 11 ай бұрын
yea, this is a really good one that I almost skipped since it did not look interesting. Jesse is at his best! hope it gets a lot of views and doesn't fly below the radar
@michaelmillican5592
@michaelmillican5592 11 ай бұрын
Next level trolling!
@martinflenaugh4966
@martinflenaugh4966 11 ай бұрын
We need to stop blaming people for our problems
@liecrusher3506
@liecrusher3506 11 ай бұрын
Then who do you blame, animals?
@liecrusher3506
@liecrusher3506 11 ай бұрын
Gentrification has taken a toll on the black community.
@ambientsoundz7222
@ambientsoundz7222 11 ай бұрын
@@liecrusher3506what’s holding you back in 2023?
@letmeaddmytwocents3798
@letmeaddmytwocents3798 11 ай бұрын
Jesse always blames the woman and the blacks. Where’s the issue?!
@LeeLee-cu6gx
@LeeLee-cu6gx 11 ай бұрын
​@@ambientsoundz7222he said gentrification
@rickfrias8652
@rickfrias8652 11 ай бұрын
This is probably my 10th time watching this 😂 😂 all jokes aside I really hope everything works out for don...he seems like a cool guy
@BADDMIXX
@BADDMIXX 11 ай бұрын
This So Called 'Truth Conductor" Needs The TRUTH!
@danielnln
@danielnln 11 ай бұрын
Don's bus tour is a ride on the Short Bus 🤣
@kantrellebradford1284
@kantrellebradford1284 11 ай бұрын
I'm 35 , and I see Don has a lot of learning to do
@allamerican0973
@allamerican0973 11 ай бұрын
1000%
@Rizik1986
@Rizik1986 11 ай бұрын
Not even a good BSer...
@ashleynicole9423
@ashleynicole9423 11 ай бұрын
Oh Lordt when this man pulled out his dinnerware line I nearly died😂😂😂
@GinaBaby-ci5kr
@GinaBaby-ci5kr 11 ай бұрын
Oh my gosh Jesseee…please do this with him once a week. I love that he cant help but show his true colors!
@randybutler6512
@randybutler6512 11 ай бұрын
The first 6min of this interview has me dying laughing!!!😂😂😂I can't wait to hear the rest of it.
@charlescrew134
@charlescrew134 11 ай бұрын
Jessi just BLATT FOLKED him, " your lil dinnerware business " lol
@JH-hx2cl
@JH-hx2cl 11 ай бұрын
hes got a mask on......sitting in a hotel room......by ....himself.....🥴 This is going to be a good episode
@TheRealityDealerTV
@TheRealityDealerTV 11 ай бұрын
I have my own business and it’s possible because of my full time job. No loans, no dreaming about it, no hoping and wishing.
@bbbhhhaaa7008
@bbbhhhaaa7008 11 ай бұрын
He's not horrible. I remember him yelling at BLM for messing with statues.
@troysdogtraining
@troysdogtraining 11 ай бұрын
just cause anger agrees with your position doesn’t make it love.
@rickfrias8652
@rickfrias8652 11 ай бұрын
I was dying when he said go down with the shit 😂 😂 😂 😂 💀 💀...uhhhmmaazzzziiinnnnnnnnnnnn lol😅
@PhilipBelmont
@PhilipBelmont 11 ай бұрын
Holy crap I think this interview just brought Jesse from a level 10 troll to level 11.
@melkam647
@melkam647 11 ай бұрын
Do you know what a "troll" means? I don't think you do.
@TheGirugamesh1000
@TheGirugamesh1000 11 ай бұрын
​@@melkam647all these butt hurt radical leftists think Jesse is a troll because he tells the truth and that doesn't conform to their delusions.
@Compulsive-Elk7103
@Compulsive-Elk7103 11 ай бұрын
​@@melkam647Jesse is the definition of a troll
@Falconing89
@Falconing89 11 ай бұрын
I can't wait
@Mrs.CGraves
@Mrs.CGraves 11 ай бұрын
Only VICTIMS think Jesse is a troll. A victor in life can brush things off and move along, laugh at his “trolling” for what it is. People hate Jesse because He is Free.
@hoosiertejano5835
@hoosiertejano5835 11 ай бұрын
HE'S EMOTIONAL.....JUST LIKE A WOMEN..
@daleestep9518
@daleestep9518 11 ай бұрын
Emotional wreck at 70 yrs old still blaming white men for there failures
@alanrogs3990
@alanrogs3990 11 ай бұрын
He acts like an emotional black grandma
@Chelidog
@Chelidog 11 ай бұрын
No
@knowthyself8233
@knowthyself8233 11 ай бұрын
Beeeetaaaaa😂😂😂😂
@worshipwithwords5651
@worshipwithwords5651 11 ай бұрын
I am so weakened by laughter that I don’t even have the energy to begin to unpack everything here. 😭 I’m also not understanding the mask inside a hotel room. Am I missing something?
@swillsie
@swillsie 11 ай бұрын
I kept waiting for him to make sense, hes 70 years old so he's seen a lot but the mask by himself said it all 🤷‍♂️🇺🇸
@lukasdukas
@lukasdukas 11 ай бұрын
He works at Disneyland, he's the train driver for the Disney railroad
@kyleparker678
@kyleparker678 11 ай бұрын
Love how "a black agenda" is spouted off like thats acceptable. Wonder how he would feel if the white people started talking about a "white agenda".
@jeffrey6618
@jeffrey6618 11 ай бұрын
Exactly maybe these people who hate america or want free things maybe they should go back to mommy africa and live in a hut .and badmouth america .we need to build the white history tour of all the inventions white people made .with Gods help
@billbradleymusic
@billbradleymusic 11 ай бұрын
Right, that's the simple logic behind white history month. It's mocking stupidity in the world.
@marshalclinard1427
@marshalclinard1427 11 ай бұрын
He would just say "the govt is a White agenda. Everything in this country is a White agenda". Just like every month is White history month to these people
@jacobcrinnion180
@jacobcrinnion180 11 ай бұрын
This interview is a comedy
@Compulsive-Elk7103
@Compulsive-Elk7103 11 ай бұрын
AMAZIN
@KMAAcademy2020
@KMAAcademy2020 11 ай бұрын
Damn that’s sad… 70 yrs old & still hasn’t figured it out. This motivates me to go even harder with my goals
@jeffny9
@jeffny9 11 ай бұрын
":oh, the black people are greedy?" 🤣 jesse's facial expression
@judahtheliontv3998
@judahtheliontv3998 9 ай бұрын
This interview had me in tears the whole show 😂
@montypython4743
@montypython4743 11 ай бұрын
I laughed so hard! He dug a hole and rested there to be covered over.
@jaredcarr8635
@jaredcarr8635 11 ай бұрын
This has to be one of the funniest interviews ever. What is wrong with this guy 😂😂😂
@EmeryVoss1
@EmeryVoss1 11 ай бұрын
He’s a proper old school cat 😁
@PaulaSandridge-sz2jh
@PaulaSandridge-sz2jh 11 ай бұрын
Here we go... A PERPETUAL victim... I got this, I got that, but I am being held down ! Come on man.
@clock99times
@clock99times 5 ай бұрын
This was an excellent interview! I watch it twice
@peteypaul7877
@peteypaul7877 11 ай бұрын
Don folden im a Hispanic male and im rooting for your success friend. I do believe your a little misguided but your a good man. Keep on pushing brother. Great guest and episode Jesse.
@BSGofficial001
@BSGofficial001 11 ай бұрын
This interview is amazin! Thank you both for being yourselves.
@MrAlittle5150
@MrAlittle5150 11 ай бұрын
New drinking game. Every time this guy says Jesse's name, you have to take a drink. You would be wasted in ten minutes
@tomspirito2421
@tomspirito2421 11 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@Zaycream21
@Zaycream21 11 ай бұрын
His reaction tho to that ying yang questioning " no ive never met them" He almost tweeked out right after that response from Jesse
@OkLetsTalkAboutIt
@OkLetsTalkAboutIt 11 ай бұрын
“Are they from China?” Had me 😂
@michaelgodsonmoton9192
@michaelgodsonmoton9192 11 ай бұрын
This guy is beyond disbelief. I’m currently working to start my own business. I have put together 95 percent of the plan, got all the info together on what I will need and someone just pointed me in two directions on funding the equipment that will be required. I will make it happen.
@johntaparnell847
@johntaparnell847 11 ай бұрын
Right on, brother. Keep it up
@kortgreen7725
@kortgreen7725 11 ай бұрын
Don't ever say u gonna do somethin! Da devil will do his best to stop u! Just say if God is willing Anda bayou don't rise, I will get it done! U caint do ANYTHING WITHOUT GOD working on ur behalf from within. LET GO AND LET GOD!
@johnchapman7973
@johnchapman7973 11 ай бұрын
Jesse sitting there messing with this dude had me week🤣
@TheBarrwen
@TheBarrwen 11 ай бұрын
It is dangerous for everyone when one segment of the population thinks that everything bad that happens is the other’s fault.
@joelash9845
@joelash9845 11 ай бұрын
This dude must have said jesse about ten million times, hes still blind and deaf but if he would call out to the name of Jesus just once and truly mean it; he can be healed. Pray for him. He not dead yet.
@donaldneal3086
@donaldneal3086 11 ай бұрын
Facts
@prephampaul
@prephampaul 11 ай бұрын
ROFL the scratch out and ease back in 'close out' was priceless! 🤣
@annagrishchenko782
@annagrishchenko782 9 ай бұрын
May God open his eyes and bring him back to him❤
@PaulaSandridge-sz2jh
@PaulaSandridge-sz2jh 11 ай бұрын
He JUST said it ! They are enslaved in their MIND !
@Gstar247
@Gstar247 11 ай бұрын
This should be interesting can’t wait
@heidib7000
@heidib7000 5 ай бұрын
This interview is pure gold!
@lemon4grss
@lemon4grss 11 ай бұрын
Another great interview, thanks 🙏🏻
@Compulsive-Elk7103
@Compulsive-Elk7103 11 ай бұрын
You're welcome.
@adamslarke5483
@adamslarke5483 11 ай бұрын
A big AMAZIN' from England!!
@michaelgodsonmoton9192
@michaelgodsonmoton9192 11 ай бұрын
2 Chronicles 7:14 , 14 if my people who are called by my name humble themselves, and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and heal their land.
@donaldneal3086
@donaldneal3086 11 ай бұрын
Amen
@hitmanbuc
@hitmanbuc 11 ай бұрын
Even he doesn't know what's wrong with da blatts. 😂😂
@Sentelle
@Sentelle 11 ай бұрын
Don: Jesse, you're afraid of commitment! Jesse: Who is that??? 😂😂😂😂😂
@damgangstudios
@damgangstudios 11 ай бұрын
I love Jesse's interviews😁❤💯👏
@justbeingveetv3423
@justbeingveetv3423 11 ай бұрын
What's good about you? "-God is love and Hate is the devil. Jesse face was😳👈🏾😂😂
@andrebennett1227
@andrebennett1227 11 ай бұрын
Why is there so much interview in this commercial 😂
@jysonbird9464
@jysonbird9464 9 ай бұрын
I've watched this interview over 7 times and it gets funnier every time 😂😂😂😂
@chantestephens
@chantestephens 11 ай бұрын
I needed this laugh! When Jesse caught that “false” during the hot seat… 😂😂🤣😂
@nxtethxgreat262
@nxtethxgreat262 11 ай бұрын
Same, that’s the only one he said something about. Bruh was shocked😂
@jaycee6381
@jaycee6381 11 ай бұрын
Amazing!!
@charlesadam2946
@charlesadam2946 11 ай бұрын
This guy refuses to forgive his parents...😢 🙏
@israelrootselevated
@israelrootselevated 11 ай бұрын
To become a Christian you must follow Christ by doing what he did and that's keeping the laws of God
@Compulsive-Elk7103
@Compulsive-Elk7103 11 ай бұрын
To be a Christian is to get baptized using the trinitarian formula
@PhilipBelmont
@PhilipBelmont 11 ай бұрын
So to become a Christian you have to become a Jew? What was the point of Christ's ministry then since the Law of Moses had already been established for 1,500 years?
@israelrootselevated
@israelrootselevated 11 ай бұрын
@PhilipBelmont u can't become a Jew. U are born a Jew. There are 12 tribes to the nation of Israel. Christ was an Israelite from the tribe of Judah (Jew). Being a Jew is just one of them. Let me correct myself. Being a Christian is to believe in Christ and keep the commandments as he did. The other 11 tribes believed in Christ and kept the commandments that didn't make them Jews. Following Christ doesn't change your nationality. The apostles were called Christians first in Antioch. Who were the apostles? Israelites who believed in Christ and kept the commandments. Simple
@donaldneal3086
@donaldneal3086 11 ай бұрын
Love is the commandment
@Compulsive-Elk7103
@Compulsive-Elk7103 11 ай бұрын
​@@PhilipBelmontwhat
@thekiltedveteran
@thekiltedveteran 11 ай бұрын
You never disappoint us, JLP! The other guy might have learned some new history for his tour today. Maybe not 🤔
@CRAIGTEMPLATEXCHRIST
@CRAIGTEMPLATEXCHRIST 11 ай бұрын
The eagle has two wings but it is one bird. We all need Christ IN OUR HEARTS. You can ask the Holy Spirit to fill your heart with his love. That is how to heal.
@kortgreen7725
@kortgreen7725 11 ай бұрын
Da truth always comes out on da hot seat!
@CannadyLawBeats74
@CannadyLawBeats74 11 ай бұрын
Good Show! The Guest Is A Nut Lol!
@marshalljimduncan
@marshalljimduncan 11 ай бұрын
The Train Conductor knows exactly what he's doing...
@Christiskinggggggggg
@Christiskinggggggggg 11 ай бұрын
FIRST COMMENT !!!! WHAT DA !!!!! AMAZINNNN
@jerrinbrown
@jerrinbrown 10 ай бұрын
Poor guy (literally, allegedly) hes so lost on the soul train of victim hood
@CRAIGTEMPLATEXCHRIST
@CRAIGTEMPLATEXCHRIST 11 ай бұрын
Jesse never fails to impress with his interviewing style.
@timbeers999
@timbeers999 11 ай бұрын
That guy is nuts
@dawnc.3711
@dawnc.3711 11 ай бұрын
Really sad that he's 70 yrs old and going through this kind of stuff. My God. He seems healthy enough to continue working if he doesn't get senior benefits.
@GinaBaby-ci5kr
@GinaBaby-ci5kr 11 ай бұрын
You are scared of commitment, Jesse!!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😭😭😭😭☠️☠️☠️😭
@rksocal2828
@rksocal2828 11 ай бұрын
Bro, i love jesse, the way he asks simple but yet thought provoking questions that highlight logical fallacys in peoples thinking is AMAZING! I also really like the esoteric way he views Christianity as more of an inward practice rather than an outward belief system, the kingdom of heaven is within! And lastly I laugh more watching his show than i do at watching 95% of comedians...
@ilovelamar3
@ilovelamar3 11 ай бұрын
Don't follow JLP's view of Christianity. He'll lead you off a cliff..
@Compulsive-Elk7103
@Compulsive-Elk7103 11 ай бұрын
​@@ilovelamar3amen
@kortgreen7725
@kortgreen7725 11 ай бұрын
I took Jesse's ADVICE, AND, jumped off da cliff of hate, anger and unforgiveness, ONTO the straight and narrow path to everlasting life! I was onda wide road to destruction following wolves who teach and preach da bible, and my life was outta control! Now that ive gone 2 forgive MY PARENTS, and pray without ceasing by STAYING STILL, MY LIFE IS KEEAWSOME! BUT U CAN DO WHAT CHEW WANT HAND!
@richardhowell1439
@richardhowell1439 11 ай бұрын
Not being funny,but I'm HALf the age of Mr jessy but twice as edified about who I am as a black man in comparison to him. Jesse is nothing but an agent who proclaims to be a Christian quote bits of the bible, but clearly displaying his real lock of knowledge of the bible and the word of God.
@Rizik1986
@Rizik1986 11 ай бұрын
If you are so great and JLP isnt, why does he have a great channel, and you dont?
@sda4ever
@sda4ever 11 ай бұрын
We need christian history from the Protestant perspective, the Martin Luther, The Waldenses, read the Book the Great Controversy, the Bible is what needs to be preached for the kingdom. I hope God will help this man to find the path that will use his talents that God gave him to lead people to Christ. Amen
@PlasticCrackCollectibles
@PlasticCrackCollectibles 11 ай бұрын
Wha Dah!!! The only thing holding this black man down.... is himself
@carlotapuig
@carlotapuig 11 ай бұрын
Absolutely fantastic conversation!
@brianharms2398
@brianharms2398 7 ай бұрын
Poor Don, he needs hugs and handouts.
@frankcouste4785
@frankcouste4785 11 ай бұрын
We are all from the Father meaning God
@Compulsive-Elk7103
@Compulsive-Elk7103 11 ай бұрын
I love how Jesse reels in his guest and gets them to come out of their shell and put on a good show 😂
@Falconing89
@Falconing89 11 ай бұрын
How can anyone afford to live in a Hotel if the Government aint paying for it
@BondyRyan
@BondyRyan 11 ай бұрын
Jesse is hilarious! I can't stop laughing
@Compulsive-Elk7103
@Compulsive-Elk7103 11 ай бұрын
Yup, that's all l watch him for. Is for laughs
@freedmanschannel4409
@freedmanschannel4409 11 ай бұрын
The yin and the yang, Jesse! Lol I wish Jesse woulda said yea the rap guys from Atlanta.
@AvaRose00
@AvaRose00 11 ай бұрын
Don fogging up those glasses 🤓
@achoice2bmade
@achoice2bmade 11 ай бұрын
Don is easily provoked.
@kensworld81
@kensworld81 11 ай бұрын
comedy gold.
@seanaguilar1637
@seanaguilar1637 8 ай бұрын
You can't make this up. Lol. This interview had me Crying😂🤣🤣
@chriscrawl3732
@chriscrawl3732 11 ай бұрын
Masked up while alone in a hotel room.... that's all I need to know about him.
@markgoldman7683
@markgoldman7683 11 ай бұрын
AMERICA FIRST!!!!
@cocobeef7020
@cocobeef7020 11 ай бұрын
I know we will probably never meet on Earth, but I can't wait to meet you in heaven, Mr. Peterson. I love you
@Compulsive-Elk7103
@Compulsive-Elk7103 11 ай бұрын
Jesse isn't going to heaven
@cocobeef7020
@cocobeef7020 11 ай бұрын
@@Compulsive-Elk7103 Why do you think Jesse isn't going to heaven
@jeshurun4616
@jeshurun4616 11 ай бұрын
I like him lol you should have him back. This was good! Much love Don.
@jeffny9
@jeffny9 11 ай бұрын
What da! 6:47 jesse never curses! Ahhhmazing
@TEAMNENA
@TEAMNENA 11 ай бұрын
Change your mindset
@jonathananaya
@jonathananaya 10 ай бұрын
I can’t wait for my tour
@winstonmcfadden2461
@winstonmcfadden2461 11 ай бұрын
Amazing
@jeffny9
@jeffny9 11 ай бұрын
this was really light work for Jesse, he never broke a sweat destroying this guys narrative.
@LightYagami-rz6su
@LightYagami-rz6su 11 ай бұрын
Wrong! Yin and Yang isn't good or evil. It represents light and dark. Or life and death. Neither is "good" or "bad." You need both. You can't have life/light without death/dark. It comes from Doism /Taoism.
@Smoochypoop
@Smoochypoop 11 ай бұрын
Get ready for some crazy yelp reviews. A racist ex-limo black historian tour. 😂
@BADDMIXX
@BADDMIXX 11 ай бұрын
Did Jesus Show Anger? 13:59 It Is Written! KJV - Mark 3 : 5 “And when HE had looked round about on them with ANGER, being grieved for the hardness of their hearts, HE saith unto the man, Stretch forth thine hand. And he stretched it out: and his hand was restored whole as the other.”
@ms.helpmeet4753
@ms.helpmeet4753 11 ай бұрын
The poor man is brainwashed and hasn't activated his ability to think for himself.
@quentinmitchell225
@quentinmitchell225 11 ай бұрын
He’s not putting u down. He’s trying to shine some light on his truth that helped him
@michaelgodsonmoton9192
@michaelgodsonmoton9192 11 ай бұрын
Also ideas are like faith, without work(s), it is dead
@user-xt1ec6vq1r
@user-xt1ec6vq1r 11 ай бұрын
Just to add something that Don said about male members " awe keep my 7" as to his 8" to stay blue eyed and smart.😮
@Jdockery007
@Jdockery007 4 ай бұрын
him "when you dig one hole, you might as well dig two" Jesse "that dont make sense"
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