The truth: Does slightly longer grass really affect football teams? | Tifo Football Show Ep.11

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Welcome to The Tifo Football Show - the show that answers your questions about football.
Join JJ Bull, Alex Stewart, Mark Carey and your host Joe Devine as they find out if Timo Werner is really unlucky, how Matthjis de Ligt is doing at Juventus and how the length of grass affects style of play.
If you have a footballing question you want to be answered, tell us in the comments section.
Special thanks to the lovely people at the Cheshire Cheese pub on the Strand for letting us film there.
Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
01:01 Is Timo Werner actually unlucky?
05:34 How is Matthijs de Ligt doing at Juventus?
10:57 How can the pitch be favourable to one team and not another?
15:15 Outro
#TimoWerner #deLigt #tifofootballshow
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[@bensmith7048]

Question: Do tall players play worse in a strong wind?

[@itsmeprasad1987]

Hahaha

[@zikoans6575]

😂😂😂

[@kyuura4881]

it's sound stupid but i'm curious

[@mss11235]

If a serious question, I wonder if windy games do indeed noticeably favor teams that prefer to attack with the ball on the floor. Unfortunately, I think that there is probably a lack of descriptive enough match-day weather/wind data to compare against relevant passing data

[@amirmanipanjnoush3954]

This question definitely is coming from a shorty

[@rileys1005]

Question: Why is the Six Second Rule never given? And what's the average time the balls held by a goalkeeper before release?

[@jillionjangles4177]

Goated pfp

[@angelotavares6700]

This single problem made my gf give up on watching portuguese football with me

[@joshpycroft1557]

I’m not 100% sure on this but I think it’s because it isn’t a 6 second rule. It’s up to the referees discretion. So it can change from game to game depending on the referee on how long the keeper can hold the ball

[@camerondavisslag]

yes this - I always think back to a match where Drogba counted how long the keeper was taking on his hands.

[@treeklow614]

mad question the second one is😳

[@jayilham6548]

The tifo football show is really the only good thing on Mondays

[@kevinobonyo6230]

Not if you treat every Monday to say "It's Monday" like a scouser. That always cheers me up.

[@Omar_Little]

dont forget the always sunny podcast

[@SAMAKUS]

Better Call Saul too

[@BigMadAndy]

The grass sketch was fantastic and it’s left me wanting a full documentary on the matter. Get Leslie Grass on the case!

[@timdurgan]

genuinely the funniest segment Tifo have ever done

[@georgecarter4690]

JJ with another perfect performance 😂

[@Azza.10]

He came in with the scottish sketch show material :D he's brilliant

[@AdityaNema]

What is the best XI you can make with all the -inhos in football? Like Fabinho, Jorginho, Fernandinho

[@rolandcooke]

Fantastic question, perfect TiFo fodder. 😅

[@rjfaber1991]

I know it's entirely normal in Spanish and Portuguese to use diminutives as a common name, but imagine running around in a shirt that says "Little Fabius", "Little George" or "Little Ferdinand" on the back all your life.

[@dabisset7900]

@@rjfaber1991 I think it’s more like junior than little mate

[@1337menno]

Juninho and Ronaldinho always should be there

[@mss11235]

Why not murder multiple fowl with only a single rock: Does the all time XI "-ic"s beat the all time XI "inho"s? Also, is this racist?

[@harryharvey8158]

question: what’s happened to luton? how have they gone from non league to the playoffs and potentially the premier league in such a short space of time? is this a one off or can dreams really come true for these smaller teams?

[@mapkocc]

Look up the HITC Sevens video on Luton Town's recent history, it has all the answers for you and more

[@jorg7228]

@@mapkocc was literally about to say watch Alfies video

[@alfiewareham3278]

Question: Do teams commit less fouls around their box when playing against Southampton because of JWPs Free kicks

[@davrothelegend]

FEWER fouls

[@raimarulightning]

@@davrothelegend I love you

[@mss11235]

@@raimarulightning OMG, I hope they reciprocate; what a beautifully romantic tale this could be. POPCORN, LADIES! 🤩

[@Nillermus9000]

Please, Sir, let me have some more knowledge: How come all football pitches are not the same dimensions? Is there a historical explanation from a sporting perspective, or is it down to geography and available space? Or maybe even style of the team that calls the pitch its home?

[@lancejohnson8388]

It depended on the factors. Yes, the factors.

[@harizbadrulhisham3805]

Because FIFA doesn't put a 1 size standard... Instead FIFA gives a range. Goal line must be between 45 to 90 meter, and touchline must be 90 to 120 meter. Why it's like that? Could be because of history....back then there's no 1 global standard, hence teams create field sizes different from each other... When time comes to create a global standard, they couldnt create 1 global standard because the teams' fields are restricted already due to stadium size, road size, etc.

[@gordfarquad]

Ooh and based on real estate prices which team has the most expensive pitch per square foot?

[@virupakshawalla5734]

@@gordfarquad probably Chelsea.

[@STANKYCHEEZEMAYNE]

@@virupakshawalla5734 except Stamford Bridge is in Fulham lol

[@usmanrulezzz]

Guys, this is slowly becoming my favourite Tifo segment!

[@sartajhansi6127]

My slightly overgrown grass has affected my success in the past so I do believe it to have a noticible difference

[@neilgh703]

Classy

[@sartajhansi6127]

@@neilgh703 thanks 🥰

[@stephenpatacsil1329]

Question: Does the placement and number of spikes found at the sole of the football player's boot really matter? (Does it really enhance performance or is it just there to sell you the illusion of "more grip = better performance")

[@itsmeprasad1987]

Aah.. the science

[@CamoDrako]

Have you ever run on a football pitch in shoes with smooth plastic soles?

[@mss11235]

@@CamoDrako I think OP is asking if there are noticeable or notable advantages/disadvantages to different stud arrangements, stud sizes, placements or alignments. I don't think he is asking if cleats are preferable to flat-soles...

[@otto_jk]

Ag boots have noticeably less grip than Hg or Sg boots. I personally like Ag boots because one's feet isn't planted as solidly so if one gets tackled the boot slides instead of joints taking the force.

[@opinionatortv6457]

I've been studying different kinds of boots recently and the answer is yes, but it depends. If your playing on an elite level (Grass master) pitch, you'll need boots with a few more and different molded spikes to get the best traction. The same can not be said for a lower level pitch

[@MrWarbley]

The animations are next level, my favourite was Alex's disembodied arm pointing at the pizzas

[@mylittlethoughttree]

Question: people always talk about Gerrard as a succesor to Klopp but, knowing Liverpool's history with the bootroom, would Pep Lijnders be a better fit? What does it take for a brilliant assistant manager to become a brilliant manager?

[@arz5530]

Question: Shouldn't a 'world class' player be able to consistently overperform on xg due to the fact that they are better than the 'average player' (which xg is taking into account)?

[@bluecheese20401]

Does replacing your manager really lead to a boost in results? Sure anecdotally it does but is this really the case?

[@mss11235]

I think the reason for it is simply how systems tend to operate. Like in Rocket League, if you have always just warmed-up with a fast paced, ground shooting training pack before a ranked play session, but someone suddenly tells you to start to instead warm-up with an aerial shooting training pack going forward, initially, for a time, you will likely retain those ground shot skills you had always routinely practiced, but you will also now be warmed up to another different but certainly important attacking skill, the aerial shots, that will serve you well when you queue up ranked.

[@fugaziishime]

There are no dumb questions. But this is a Dumb question.

[@nishantak911]

@@fugaziishime it's not dumb! It's been studied extensively short term yes there's an effect Long term no...infact over the season the results wouldn't vary much based on change of manager It's in a book everything you know about soccer is wrong

[@fugaziishime]

@@nishantak911 so you are telling me any manager could be just as influential as klopp. That ole gunnar solkjaer and jurgen basically have the same effect on the teams. And how is only a short term effect? Klopps work at luverpool took time. Sir alex took time. And its football. What a dumb take.

[@isahamilton01]

@@fugaziishime news flash, you’re dumbing it down to an incredibly rudimentary level and twisting his words so that you can pretend he’s wrong. Don’t do that. Use your brain. Wtf? Obviously not every coach is equally as effective, it’s a variety of factors that determine these things. Usually it’s almost completely unpredictable. So stop acting like you know everything? K thanks

[@devil-sad]

Question: is the "Pep overthinks in big matches" trope actually true?

[@ICEMAN-xf1pg]

QUESTION: What formation and tactical setup can be used to combat the dominant and overused 4-3-3 system (wide touchline hugging wingers, inverted fullback, holding midfielder, and 2 box to box midfielders). Well known examples Xavi's barcelona, liverpool under jurgenn klopp, pep guardiola with manchester city. As I have noticed this trend from previous analytical videos done by JJ BULL.

[@opinionatortv6457]

The 3-4-3 or 3-5-2. Those formations are purpose built to beat the 4-3-3

[@donkosaurus]

@@opinionatortv6457 these with a fast counterattacking style does the trick either by nullifying the front three or creating overloads wide offensive wing backs will either ghost past or commit the 4-3-3 wingers if the 4-3-3 wingers commit and track back, then the lone striker will find it difficult to create or counter if they dont it may turn into a ropey 3 forwards vs 3 centre backs situation, but the 352/343 will look to be more direct and utilise the dangerous unmarked wing backs the "counter counter" is for the 4-3-3 to transition into some asymmetrical shape, where one winger stays more forwards, and the other drops back into a more midfield role, leaving two up top is still a threat, and 4-ish in midfield while defending keeps the team more secure manchester city have done this regularly, and you may see a front 2 from de bruyne/foden/bernardo pressing high up, and a flat 4 with sterling/jesus/mahrez/grealish wide in the few times they are out of posession

[@jaminjoben5097]

Tottenham have been great at it with kane dropping deep to receive press beating passes and then set off the overlapping runners

[@ravipv3236]

Question: how will mino raiola's players manage after his death? And in general, how will players switch from one agent to another?

[@deerfearer]

Question: It sometimes feels like teams in the EFL will go on ridiculous runs of form, and you may hear that a team who went unbeaten for months have now gone winless for just as long. Are the divisions outside of the Premier League actually more conducive to these extreme runs of form?

[@kasra_mlg]

The JJ bit was the best piece of Tifo I have ever seen ! 😂😂😂

[@BOABModels]

Cambridge United used to let the grass grow longer at the ends of the pitch to help their long ball game back in the early '90s.

[@homosapien5156]

The hand flying away from the body is even more hilarious it rotating 360°.

[@danielgamboa1965]

Question: Who is the ideal backup to Harry Kane at Tottenham? Tricky profile as the club want quality and youth but also someone willing to play second fiddle (or even third behind Son) for the foreseeable. Sidenote: I was the guy from the US who cited Tifo in the article about my college application (mentioned on the podcast in spring of 2021), it’s going well and thanks again, cheers.

[@jeevan8000]

Question: Who would win a mini tournament if all tifo members put together a team of their favourite players? Like on football mamager or something like that

[@clubindigo]

I spent several years trying to become a slight of hand magician, so I would like to think that I could use these skills to become a reasonably adept pickpocket. I'm not the fastest but I am agile, and arguably on the busy, slaloming streets of London this is a more useful trait. I also have reasonable stamina so could outrun the Victorian coppers over a distance. I do however have asthma, and as Oliver Twist takes place in an industrial London one would have to assume it would be very smoky and thus my breathing would be significantly worse, which would probably affect my cardio. So overall I think modern me could have become an adept pickpocket, but if we're saying I have to myself adapt to the reality of the times, then I likely would have died of asthma before the cholera outbreak even hit. Poverty is also likely as I am from the North of England and am, therefore, common scum.

[@roolaing]

The homage to Strange But True had me feeling all sorts of 90s Saturday night TV feels. It was also really funny and surprisingly well done. 😂👍

[@theacmilanfan123]

You guys are a perfect blend of football creativity and knowledge, love the growth on the channel keep it going y’all 🙌🏼

[@Azzamilano]

I mean, the accuracy and precision of the informations shared, plus the exquising humor without even talking about the passion and rightness of the intervenants, it feels so right. Amazing job and stuff these videos really deserve more recognition, thank you and greetings from Geneva friends.

[@ethanshackleton6195]

Question: Why do teams from kick off give the ball to a centre half who then lumps it up field, surely this is a half chance at losing the ball, so why do they all do it?

[@bzoa430]

The comic relief from JJ at the start was wonderful. Hi!

[@Mold-E]

Question. Has the A-league had a negative on Australian football at a national level, and would it be more beneficial to scrap the league and encourage players to travel abroad in order to succeed at a professional level.

[@bzoa430]

Oh my days. You guys were awesome in this video, particularly JJ. The paranormal show bit was so quite unnerving but amusing just like the original. Good show.

[@eldan_reign4778]

question: does foot size affect where and how a player would play?

[@kwesiafari605]

Question : After Real Madrid’s comeback I would like to ask How effective are crosses these days .

[@moreece1713]

IMO,crosses are more effective if the crossing player and the receivers use the same timing

[@danpreston564]

Depends if your opponents are vampires.

[@alexander63736]

@@moreece1713 boi what

[@kenmilne5133]

@@moreece1713 elaborate?

[@muanpuiarenthlei8113]

Question: Is Harry Maguire really the real cause of Manchester United's bad defence?

[@csolivais1979]

Probably, or at least he shares the largest % of blame amongst the players

[@celtic69]

Most errors leading to goals however he gets no real protection from either full back nor the midfield.

[@RoadsideRoamer]

I think they already have a video in which Maram AlBaharna answers a similar question brilliantly (short answer is perhaps not)

[@ronalddimarucot7453]

Question: If the top 2 teams in a league have the same exact results, points, gd and etc. Which team will win the title?

[@imate93]

“If clubs still cannot be separated, the team who scored the most goals away from home in the head-to-head matches will get the highest position. “Only if the clubs remain level in the table after this will a playoff be arranged, at a neutral ground, with the format, timing and venue being determined by the Premier League Board.”

[@albertrr3769]

Question: How did Steve Cooper orchestrate such a dramatic turnaround for Nottingham Forest this season? Would his tactics work in the Premier League if they get there this season?

[@STANKYCHEEZEMAYNE]

bump lol

[@SteveItOut]

Could James Garner make an impact at Man Utd or in the Premier League next year? He's done well in the Championship and some United fans think he could make the jump, similar to how Mason Mount did.

[@kevinmccabe7263]

I too want to the know the answer to this! I want Garner to do well, but I don't know if he'd fit Ten Hag's system?

[@willyum3920]

This deserves so so many more views. I'm spreading the word amongst my equally insane friends. I love it

[@JonBarraquio]

The outro credits are the best!! It gives you a reason to actually read them 😂🤣😂

[@bobmayson4172]

Big Brass Eye vibes from the grass segment. Honest guys this whole show us a joy to watch. Top work!

[@MiddleManFootball]

I love reading the scrolling end credits. This one in particular was very well written lol

[@iamwhatiam5091]

Excellent animation work.

[@hnaku8748]

The last segment is a work of art.

[@nicholasvaudry1343]

Question: Will JJ Bull apologise for being incredibly sceptical of Arsenal's 2021 summer transfer window? and will he accept that football manager is an entirely accurate prediction of real world football?

[@senorsoupe]

I remember a grass related feud in the SPFL between Brendan Rodgers of Celtic and Craig Levein of Hearts a few years ago, some great Levein press conferences

[@muhammadalifazmi8037]

Question : Will traditional wingers make a comeback in the near future?

[@moreece1713]

If traditional winger's definition is the same as mine,There are still good ones like saka,Raphina ,Salah ,Di Maria and more .They are mostly Right wingers because teams mostly overlap left backs

[@SKa-tt9nm]

You’ll need to define a “traditional winger”. From what I’ve seen, a lot of Brits think of “traditional wingers” as crossing machines for the center forward and not much else. While in other countries, the definitions of winger and striker basically overlap.

[@moreece1713]

Traditional winger is a player who doesn't need a Right back to overlap and help them ,they can create or score by just bursting in dangerous positions

[@kevinobonyo6230]

Which of Arsenal, Tottenham and Manchester United would be best served with Ibrahim Sangare in their side? Also, how has Sangare's game changed since making the switch from Toulouse to PSV?

[@moreece1713]

As a Gooner , I'd like him to be a short term xhaka replacement .He is a left footer who isn't clumsy with tackles

[@jaffawaffa22]

This show is honestly so fucking funny 3 seconds in I’m already creasing

[@cheangizzz]

Question: Do collars on players' kits make it harder for them to play? Looks like it does for me but I think players would say if that was the case.

[@nickgreco8625]

Best show on KZbin love my Mondays 😆

[@yeaferahmed5305]

Question: Why has Pepe failed at Arsenal? And is there a way back for him?

[@moreece1713]

Short Answer: saka and Arsenal's reluctance to overlap the left instead of right

[@yeaferahmed5305]

@@moreece1713 He was a flop before Saka. After spending 70+ mill on him, surely he can be put to some use

[@moreece1713]

@@yeaferahmed5305 Pepe was kinda good when Arteta played with wing backs ,Left footed inside forwards are dying slowly , examples are Messi,Pepe,asensio ,Mata , Pedro etc

[@jr_xtreme8940]

These are the real questions that keep me up at night

[@ruycosio6765]

JJ's short films are just brilliant

[@flamepal]

The grass bit was some of your best work

[@ebrahimadams8425]

Question: Will Japan become good enough to reach a world cup semi-final in the near future?

[@leemcverry4636]

Question: is Bernardo Silva the most complete midfield player in the premier league?, he has the energy of Kante, pirouettes like Messi on the ball and the tenacity of a madman

[@bipin2295]

special credits to the backend team for writing these unique credits :)

[@tomfornelli8417]

JJ Bull must be preserved at all costs.

[@ruaidhtanner]

Hey long time fan, first time questionerer 🌬 Q: I recently watched a vid about winners of the rugby World Cup had a higher ‘team cohesion coefficient’ ie. The same players were picked in the 2 years before rwc, and higher proportion of players from fewer club/provincial teams. The specific example was the rise and fall of Australia. Does team cohesion have an impact on football World Cup winners? Is this why England always do rubbish? ie cos very few of the squad play together at club level, and lots of variability in team selection in the years running up to World Cup? More so than Germany, Spain, Brazil etc?

[@pipbeg12]

Loool when JJ interrupted Joes intro at the start Alex was looking at him like "Enjoy your last appearance on this show mate". Surprised he wasn't told to just leave then and there 😁😁

[@eliglickman7039]

That ending had me rolling

[@308473mb]

That thumbnail is a thing of beauty.

[@xxballer099gfxxzz3]

Question: With the introduction of advanced analytics in football, are recruitment analysts more important than traditional scouts?

[@joshuageraldbutler8037]

Question: What do you think the football landscape would look like if Mourinho got the Barcelona job in 2008, rather than Guardiola? Would Barcelona be a great success under Mourinho? Would Guardiola been able to establish juego de posicion at another club, and was his focus on controlled possession and quick passing destined to catch on as a natural development of the game; or was that only due to his success at Barcelona?

[@sourabhkatti]

Man I love JJ

[@davidgosden5443]

R.I.P. ball that died, you may be gone, but never forgotten

[@ScrapperTBP]

Question: some players are renowned for avoiding yellow cards. Casemiro and fabinho are examples. Is this a real thing or is it just a myth

[@xplzf]

Grass bit was excellent

[@EmmaBev4]

We’ve missed you on the podcast, Joe YESSSSSSS

[@Oliverfk3]

I love this so much

[@tkwiremu7666]

How have the rules around goalkeeper gloves evolved? I like to imagine there was once a goalkeeper who tried to use foam hands as gloves thinking it’d extend their reach but what are some real examples of goalkeepers using specialised gloves to try to get an edge?

[@wolfofaspen]

I love this channel.

[@robinshields6760]

Question: Is it better to kick off first or switch ends if you win the coin toss?

[@rickrank321]

I agree with your grass expert's brilliant analysis. I'd even go further and suggest the FA consider a rule change that expressly forbids a club to cut, trim, water, manicure, or otherwise alter the pitch in any material way after the first match of the season has been played. Only once the season has fully concluded will clubs be allowed to tend to their bush. This will obviously be incredible for the sport and mark a return to a more organic game last seen generations ago.

[@bipin2295]

JJ is a rare gem... he must be saved at all cost :D

[@seigfried_]

Question: How long can football last without changes to time management/stoppages? Especially given that many games now are now getting less than 60 minutes of ball-in-play time.

[@edugui99999]

9:47 I'm actually very DeLigted to hear that

[@ICEMAN-xf1pg]

QUESTION: What formation and collection of players can used to play the best form of long-ball tactics.

[@opinionatortv6457]

Brexitball's favourite; the 4-4-2

[@harizbadrulhisham3805]

I remember in 2006 if I'm not mistaken, Mourinho instructed for Chelsea not to fix/maintain their field for a good few months, to a point the field was very muddy, all because Chelsea were drawn with Barcelona in the Champions League.

[@bungaIowbill]

Question: Before 2010, every World cup final included one of Brazil, Germany, Italy and Argentina. Since 2010, only one final included any of these nations, and no nation has been in multiple finals. Is it fair to say that international football has become more competitive and less centralized, or are these just some statistical curioisities?

[@SKa-tt9nm]

Three finals is not enough to come up with any kind of long term conclusion, statistically speaking. Especially when 2 out of 6 participants belong to the group you’ve highlighted. But in general, the last 30 years of tournament football can be summarized as 1) Spain and France ending their habitual underperformance and 2) the rise of Portugal, which missed every tournament between 1966 and 1986.

[@kumayasei]

Question: how can we adjust progressive passes/progressive yards and other creative stats to where the player is located on the pitch? I always feel that the defenders and holding midfielders have a huge advantage in how many progressive stats they get

[@virupakshawalla5734]

Its all about the nap of the grass. I was a groundsman at a top club. We change the nap to suite our game plan and train on it all week before a game. It is particularly advantageous in first 30 before other team adapts. Also open doors and windows at half time if wind is strong to effect pitch. Its all small margins.

[@joec7226]

Question: What do Villa (Aston) need to do to get back into European competitions?

[@leemdirect]

Why does Scotland have such brilliant left backs all of a sudden (Robertson, Tierney and Hickey)? Cheers, Liam

[@AbsentOnion23]

Question prompted by the Håland at City video, I found it interesting that you showed how he would help break down a Burnley low block but given their struggles this season it made me wonder what the archetype of a mid table PL team actually is. Would be interesting to see some numbers on most common shapes and playing styles, and maybe building out the league’s most average team? Or in short, what does the most average PL team look like?

[@pipbeg12]

That chair fall JJ did when he said goodbye 😁

[@thejungwookim]

Question: How is added time determined and does it ever accurately make up for the amount of time wasting done in a match?

[@carletto3319]

What ever happened to the spanish Tifo channel? I was so excited about it

[@Interlinkedczar]

I’ve watched JJ’s Strange but True bit three times today.

[@_dreamok]

I live for Joe's question at the end of the video

[@chaddonaldson9171]

Chef kiss episode

[@nishantak911]

Good point raised by Alex Question: if football were a higher scoring game what measure other than discrete counts of ball crossing goal line within posts would work? A basketball style point system for goals based on distance to goal? A target score to reach instead of a time limit for each game? Day night football like test cricket where stamina comes into play more...

[@isahamilton01]

I refuse to believe the most recent comment was 11 months ago. I revisit these frequently 10/10

[@IoannisChatzikyriakos]

Really went underground in the intro to this episode

Question: Managers that are touted as 'relegation experts', do they usually warrant their titles or are they just bad managers and therefore always in relegation battles?

[@visg8303]

Question: is Eddie Nketiah good enough for Arsenal or should they sign 2 forwards anyway?

[@Ellisbritton]

Question: Around this time of year it gets reported that ‘with a good preseason a player can be back to their best’. What impact can a pre season actually have on a players overall form? Especially considering that a ‘good’ preseason can only really be every other year with international tournaments for elite players.

[@charlierhodes7271]

wonderful, my fever dream is back