The "Truths" Of Christianity | The Atheist Experience: Throwback

[@richardhedd3080]

Every time I watch axp I'm struck with the fact that critical thinking needs to be taught at a early age.

[@nealjroberts4050]

​@@JimCastleberry They seem to be doing better than some people ranting their assertions are true by default

[@robertacierno2803]

Amen

[@ApatheticFish3667]

@@JimCastleberry You know he's a theist, you idiot.

[@Beacon80]

@@JimCastleberry You keep making statements like this, but you never provide any evidence to back them up.

[@nealjroberts4050]

@@JimCastleberry Yadda yadda liar yadda yadda liar yadda yadda 🥱 Please try something more effective than poorly worded defamation

[@Mr_Porter]

I truly miss this duo

[@quotedotes]

Amen.

[@Matt-y1l]

The duo of demonic destruction huh?

[@gumbyspook]

Same. It's not as enjoyable to watch as it was.

[@Spiritof_76]

@@Matt-y1l Demonic?

[@youneedhelp6902]

There unstoppable

[@LawrenceAdele1919]

Did you know that there were 15 religions before Christianity that had the exact same details: born of a virgin, in a manger, did miracles, crucified and after 3 days, rose again....this was a very common story.

[@canbest7668]

Didn’t know it was as high as 15! Can you provide a source? I’m very interested in learning more about this.

[@gmswhackos2652]

Name them.

[@einienj3281]

I'm surprised it's just 15..

[@canbest7668]

@@einienj3281 that’s interesting. I see there is a book by Kersey Graves that addresses this (he says there is 16 of them!). Not surprised it’s a popular fable…

[@einienj3281]

@@canbest7668 And I'm sure those are just the recorded religions, I'm willing to bet there have been much much more of them.

[@sirbarryvee-eight6485]

So there are these 2 prawns called Tristan and Christian. Tristan was saying how he wishes he was further up the food chain and was sick of being a prawn. One day he finds a lantern at the bottom of the sea. He rubs it and a genie pops out and grants him a wish. Tristan says "I want to be a shark" so the genie turns him into a shark. So Tristan goes to see his good friend Christian and says "hey look, it's me Tristan - I'm a shark now!" but Christian is too scared to go near him, thinking Tristan would eat him. Tristan felt lonely and sad that his good friend, who he would never hurt, was scared of him and didn't trust him. So Tristan found the genie and begged the genie to turn him back into a prawn. The genie felt sorry for Tristan and turned him back into a prawn. Tristan goes to the rock ledge where Christian hung out and said "Hey Christian it's me, come on out" and Christian was "no way, I'm scared you'll eat me" and Tristan says.... ...."it's okay, I'm a prawn again Christian!"

[@abc456f]

Oh boy. That's a groaner. 😆

[@amtlpaul]

Just a reminder: no amount of wordplay is going to change the fact that if YOU are intent on 'sharing' your God beliefs here, it is not required of anyone else to believe what you say or even take it seriously. A reasonable person will do so if and when you make a reasonable case for said beliefs, not before.

[@damonkenny7818]

Pauliar, why did you ask what moral harm means and who murder harms? Do you ask who sexual assault harms also? Don’t dodge.

[@amtlpaul]

@@damonkenny7818 is a perfect case in point. Damon is a lying 🧌

[@amtlpaul]

​@@theepsteindiaries, you will stick to the topic in all future responses on this thread, or I will report each and every one of them.

[@queuecee]

@@amtlpaul Damonkey is so simple minded that he thinks murder is objectively wrong just because the murdered person is harmed. I wonder who he thinks gets harmed when the angel of death goes and kills all the first born. Or when the Israelites are commanded to kill every single man, woman, child, and animal. And who is harmed when the entire planet is flooded? Who is harmed when you divert the trolley to save five people, but end up killing one? He thinks murder is wrong because it somehow harms some imaginary external moral reality that he can't describe. And he can't even explain how something is included in that external moral reality and what isn't. Is lying in that external moral reality? But what if it's lying to atheists?

[@damonkenny3444]

@@queuecee Liar, a person is objectively harmed by a moral atrocity. Not subjectively from the persons beliefs. You wilfully lie for atheism.

[@jamiegallier2106]

I love these old videos.

[@doppler4190]

Oh well. I do appreciate them, but I’d rather have more recent discussions.

[@andrewpagan5087]

These old videos always make me a little sad for the "golden age" of axp (not to disparage the new hosts at all theyre great too), but i love seeing them again

[@SuperChicken666]

If you're beginning to see truth in Christianity, as Buggs Bunny would say, you must have taken a wrong turn at Albuquerque.

[@Woreyel]

Mkay, Prove its false!!

[@Ghalaghor_McAllistor]

@@Woreyel Prove that any gods exist, first.

[@Woreyel]

@@Ghalaghor_McAllistor no! You made the first claim!!

[@Ghalaghor_McAllistor]

@@Woreyel You claimed your god exists. Prove it does exist.

[@dwightfitch3120]

@@WoreyelNo, theists made a claim to which we are responding. Not difficult to figure out

[@andyjoubert9410]

Until religion is no more, people will continue to use religion to explain unknown phenomena.

[@GoogleSucks-i1d]

One thing most people don't know is every time you remember something the memory gets erased and re-recorded. It's kinda like playing telephone with yourself. This is why older memories sometimes get distorted and sometimes personal bias can effect this process.

[@NoodleKeeper]

I have a vivid memory from when I was 5 years old (2000-2001). In that memory, my brother and I are watching TV on a flat screen in our old apartment that I have no other memory of. The funny thing, which you might have already picked up on, is that flat screens basically didn't exist at that time. The ones that did were so expensive that my family could never have afforded one. I've mentioned this to my family, and they told me that never happened. I've been told enough about that apartment that I sort of invented my own memory of it.

[@Specialeffecks]

I read about memory reconstruction a couple years ago. I tested this about a year ago when I found this 'Caution Sign adjustable speed blinker' my brother had built when he was much younger (he added a circuit and potentiometer to a caution blinker light that typically sits on top of an old-style caution sign). Before I opened the yellow plastic case (to repair it) I thought to test the idea of false memories. I asked him to draw what he thinks it looks like inside. He drew a schematic and the general layout of what we would find inside (having worked on it himself for many hours - back 40 years ago). I asked how sure he was of what we would find, and he said, "pretty sure". What we found was about as different as he could have imagined - and at first, he thought it had been changed by someone else. What he recalled was an amalgamation of other projects and circuits he had created over the years. It hadn't been changed - as it had been in my possession the whole time and I know nothing of electronics. You can test it. Pick an object or project that you have not directly accessed some inside or hidden part of, that you have some mental image of that you have remembered several times going back for years. Before you gain access (before you open it) draw what you think you will see - and be surprised! (It's best if you have thought about it many times without seeing it directly). If you look at it without drawing it - our brains tend to fill in the gaps and you tell yourself, "That's what I thought it would be" - so draw it first! (Or have Bing Image Creator or other image AI create it from your descriptions). The older memories in our head may seem just like an exact image (or video) of an original event - going back through an unbroken chain of identical recalls each time we recall the memory. They are NOT, and you can test this.

[@raymeedc]

By the caller’s reasoning, he should also believe in Unicorns & Fairies, as it hasn’t been proven that they do or don’t exist either 🙃

[@cirrostratus481]

I love that "that doesn't make it a well known fact, it makes it an agreed upon opinion" classic

[@lawrenceatkinson5884]

A short while ago I had a serious back operation and when I came to in the high care Ward I was Plugged into every machine that goes 'Bing', and with nursing staff watching me 24/7. As as a recovering an after a day in the ward I had an experience. Suddenly my world went black and then white and I felt like I was in a digital world zooming through a tunnel and the tunnel was made with black and white ceramic bricks. I screamed out and thrashed on the bed. The speed of the movement through the tunnel and the digitizing of the bricks changed and the thought that went through my head, "maybe we are in the Matrix and maybe this is what happens when you die you go into the digital world." It was a very uncomfortable experience. While I thrashing around my hand fell on the table next to the bed and I felt my phone. I was going to throw it at the wall to attract the nurses attention, when the thought occurred to me that if I could feel my phone that I was in the real world and that I was not dead. I calmed down and returned to normal experience. When I told the staff what had happened we had doctors and specialists in and they went through their machinery and they went through all the data they had and they saw nothing. I don't know how long it happened for it could have been 10 seconds could have been 20 minutes. What I know is it was a terrifying episode that I can't explain. And I carry on with my life without scratching around for mystical fairies in the sky to blame it on. What I know is brains do funny things under stress.

[@atalantamountain]

Melvin M Vopson might say you had something in there... We might really all live in a simulation.

[@steveyuhas9278]

Mike was in fact "just makin shit up". I looked it up and like almost every single one I looked at, especially from religious glurge sources, references imagery of some sort. The Virgin Mary, bright lights to heaven with angels, crazy stuff like that.

[@einienj3281]

"Aren't you confusing knowing and believing", no, theists are confused by knowing and believing, not atheists.

[@ianalan4367]

I’m not confused.

[@einienj3281]

​@@ianalan4367Good for you.

[@ianalan4367]

Peace to all!

[@einienj3281]

​@@JimCastleberryStop projecting. Must be tiring to be you. Lying and hating all day..

[@einienj3281]

​@@ianalan4367🙏🏻

[@HauntedJack]

Jim Castleberry comes back with the oldest trick in the book. Asking us to prove atheism whilst blatantly refusing to prove any god

[@nealjroberts4050]

Don't forget the accusations of lying to anyone pointing it out!

[@RideAcrossTheRiver]

Imagine Jim Assleberry weaponized and dictatorshipized.

[@Woreyel]

You don't reject God's existence because there's no evidence, you reject God's existence consciously because you love your sin!

[@alamunez]

⁠@@WoreyelHaving irrational beliefs isn’t an excuse to start making irrational claims.

[@Woreyel]

@@alamunez then prove "the belief in God is irrational"

[@barbiedahl]

Big red flag: he uses the word "evidence" and Fox News in the same sentence.

[@5555522255555]

Good one...

[@josephbelisle5792]

Very, very typical theist. Lots of claims. Makes a claim then says he didnt. Cant provide any proof. Tries to provide belief as proof.

[@myteric117]

Y'all do great skeptical work. Critical assessment slides into intended critical assessment when personal experience occurs under the interpretive influence of socially accepted constructs. About a third of the way into this clip, the caller began smudging or fuzzying the distinction between intended critical assessment and socially accepted constructs which seem to make better sense of perceived personal experiences. Switching gears from presenting critical assessment to questioning the interpretive influences of socially accepted constructs within the context of personal experience may prove to be more useful for helping the caller consider (reconsider) the interpretive influences and socially accepted constructs upon their interpretation (gotta find a pattern) of said personal experience.

[@nealjroberts4050]

I've updated the usual debunked arguments: Fine tuning - no constants have been demonstrated to be tuned. Anthropic principle / puddle reasoning (distinct from FTA) - relies on assuming that things are noticeably existent because they were intended to be rather than because they exist and were noticed. KCA - relies on special pleading a particular something from nothing. Contingency - relies on special pleading that contingency exists. Design - relies on comparing known human design with known lack of design then assuming everything unknown is designed. Irreducible Complexity - still not demonstrated to exist. Objective Moral Values - still not demonstrated ontologically. NDEs - basically another claim that personal experiences are true by default. DNA as information - usually hampered by misrepresentation of the definition of information, often with the false claim of being digital. Existence of Consciousness/Intelligence - often falsely claimed to require themselves already existing in order to exist. Free Will - usually involves equivocation on what free will means and false dichotomies on determinism and randomness. Anything that needs expansion or better wording?

[@damonkenny7818]

Are you ever going to explain why you claimed morality isn’t demonstrated by murder ie. moral harm done to a victim of murder?? And don’t blame it on some definitions. Don’t dodge.

[@damonkenny7818]

Do you claim a moral atrocity isn’t demonstrated by sexual assault also? Answer the question don’t dodge.

[@quentind1924]

@@damonkenny7818 Everybody agrees murder is bad, doesn't make it objectively bad. Many people listen to Tylor Swift's music and consider it to be very good, doesn't make it objectively good. There is nothing objective in moral just like for music

[@damonkenny7818]

@@quentind1924 Lol, murder is subjectively permissible from a persons beliefs? What makes you lie?

[@damonkenny7818]

⁠@@quentind1924 So murder is just subjecvely bad from a persons beliefs just like some Taylor Swift music.

[@russbroda7207]

Steve Harley said it best when he said “…believe half of what you see and none of what you hear…”

[@vojtechpribyl7386]

With the near death experience I think that the body is trying to ensure the greatest chance of survival. Releasing calming chemicals when the system is going down makes far more sense to me if I look at it as a measure to lower the energy consumption and slow all the processes as much as possible. Maybe the brain is activating the calming memories and fantasies as a result of trying to calm everything down. Just a guess though.

[@nealjroberts4050]

I think what a lot of my fellow theists fail to realise is that personal experience doesn't make something true for everyone.

[@Matt-y1l]

Watch the video entitled "13 days in hell" and get back to me!

[@vojtechpribyl7386]

@@Matt-y1l Got better things to do than to watch FPS game vids.

[@ookekklibarianbornagain6708]

@@Matt-y1l 🤣

[@joemiller7082]

@@nealjroberts4050I don’t think many theists think you should believe based on their personal experience. They’re usually just trying to justify their own beliefs. And it’s always the same question after. “How did you find out that your experience is what you think it was?”

[@chadpatterson9796]

All the lemmings thought they could fly

[@Gratefulapostate]

It's not just that lots of other people believing in something doesn't mean that it's likely to be true, but it makes it more likely that one has been influenced by the power of suggestion from the prevailing culture.

[@bradburkart9149]

All my experiences with the Supernatural turned out to be psychosis .

[@einienj3281]

I think his "experience" was sleep paralysis.. I have suffered from sleep paralysis regularly since early childhood. As a kid I was convinced ghosts and vampires and witches existed. When I learned what SP is, I no longer believe those things that attack me during SP are real. (And seeing movie monsters helped too). During my 43 years, I have never seen aliens during SP.. kinda bummed about it 😂

[@t800fantasm2]

I had it once... Coincidentally, I only learned about it a few months before it happened to me.... So I kind of just relaxed, dozed off and woke up normally a while later...

[@einienj3281]

​@@t800fantasm2I have it 2-4 times a month. It's not even scary anymore. More like a VR horror game or something and I can pretty easily get myself out of it. The most important thing is to not panic. You can have a heart attack panicking.

[@nealjroberts4050]

I don't recall ever having it. I do have intense dreams regularly and occasionally wake up moving so maybe I should have it!

[@einienj3281]

@@nealjroberts4050 It's not fun. My sister is a sleepwalker. It can get pretty dangerous. Stress and being overly tired are my triggers. I have EHS (exploding head syndrome) too. It's annoying. EHS is more scary than sleep paralysis for sure.

[@nealjroberts4050]

@@einienj3281 My dad used to get it pretty bad and I occasionally sleepwalk if I'm too stressed. Stress does seem key. I've not heard of EHS but it sounds awful. What happens?

[@durrutti]

I have an atheist relative who had a near-death experience and imagined that she was sunbathing on a beach in Hawaii as she was dying. It all depends on what your references are.

[@pauls.6360]

You can CLAIM whatever you want, but that doesn't PROVE anything. Mic drop

[@williamskinner]

cameras are more reliable as evidence than a person's claim for a god. I saw it but the camera didn't

[@mikelaw8682]

I so want to believe...I believe ! Mind blowing. Mind numbing.

[@jimaspinall2927]

He believes in a heaven because of wishful thinking.

[@matthewwakeman5047]

Like 'paranormal', the word 'supernatural' literally means 'beyond or outside reality'; in other words 'that which is not true'.

[@smochygrice465]

It's true Christianity has boring AF God ritual activities like worship and prayer. And there are four Gods in Christianity. Thank God for atheism 🙏 And a good Fri-yay Morning 🌞 AXP Fans and Theists ❤❤❤ Peace Love Empathy From Australia 💪🤠☝️

[@nealjroberts4050]

Happy Day to you my Aussie friend ❤️‍🩹

[@Woreyel]

"four" God's???

[@Specialeffecks]

To become more skeptical (believe less false things and more true things) one must learn about "falsifiability". It is vital that before any claim is accepted that it be at least potentially falsifiable. I.E. for a claim: what should we expect if true versus what should we expect if false. Most theists simply skip this altogether and say: "this is what I have always taught" and/or "I want it to be true for X benefit". A simple example is the Problem of Evil: what should I expect if a Tri-Omni God Exists? (One who simply 'wishes' this claim to be true then proceeds to add so many caveats that the claim becomes unfalsifiable (this is not desired if one wishes an accurate model of reality).

[@petergrant2561]

It's interesting that 'near death experiences' are very cultural related. Like alien experiences.

[@blackfly56]

@gingerlawrence4677 Tell me a story is what we used to ask adults as kids. I’m guessing we weren’t the first kids that liked hearing stories.

[@chadpatterson9796]

It is astonishing that this many adults don’t understand actual evidence

[@MisterG2323]

American adults, you mean? Lack of education. No instruction beyond religious indoctrination.

[@mouhaahaahaa]

hey, i'm sure i heard somewhere that the atheist experience has a pride channel, what is it? i can't find it....

[@joshsheridan9511]

You're looking for the Trans Atlantic show.

[@waynebernitt2806]

An example of something that might happen to someone that is eager to jump to supernatural and claim it as a proof. As it turned out I'm allergic to oats. At the time the reactions were random. They happened in the morning more but could be anytime. One morning at work I started to have a reaction. ( I would itch and face would swell) It started as usual but this time it became evident it wasn't just going to pass. I went to my boss he took one look at me as get to a doctor. I got in the car looked in the rear view and it was not a pretty sight. Face red ,welts and eyes swollen. I was maybe 15 minutes to a doctor. I was in agony itching everywhere. After ten minutes my eyesight started to change to the point I pulled over and rubbed my eyes. As it sat the I started saying " wtf is happening. Help me (I was alone so not rational) my eyesight started to fade, not to black but to white. At its worst it was like looking at the sun. Nothing but white light. Had no idea what to do. I scratched and did everything I could to pull my eyes open more. Fortunately after some time , no idea how long maybe 10 minutes my vision faded back in and the itching eased. I floored it got to the doctor. I got taken in an give an adrenaline shot. Almost immediately I started to relax. I was laying in a back room. When the doctor came back I asked about the eye sight and blinding light. He said that the blood vessels behind my eyes had swollen and were pressing on the optic nerve, light could enter but my brain could do nothing with it. I'm sure he said it more technically but thats the gist. The worst of the reaction had past in the car. Imagine if I prayed to God because I thought I was dying. Bright lights, panic, fear and then I started to recover. There we have a miracle in the making. After food elimination eventually it was oats which I had every morning. Thank you science for the knowledge of how to solve the problem. Cheers.

[@queuecee]

The funniest thing that Damonkey has ever said to me is, "let's talk about why you lie." Cause we ALL know that he's actually too afraid to talk to me!!!😂😂😂 That itself is him lying!🤣 And he just quietly ignores the fact that he runs away from me all the time.

[@damonkenny7818]

Hold QC to account! Why did you strawman me and claim the effect of moral harm, is my moral principle? And *then* claim universal moral being/ nature (ontology) is just “made up” Admit your wilful deceit. Further let’s talk about your claim that my definition of objectivity is subjective. Which isn’t true and is therefor a lie. Thirdly, why did you argue it’s circular for a wrong, bringing moral harm to external reality objectively rather than subjectively from someone’s beliefs. Ie murder. The fallacy is yours not mine.

[@queuecee]

It's funny when Damonkey says, "let's talk about it," cause it means, "I'm too afraid to actually talk about it, so I'll keep posting stupid comments that no one pays attention to." 😂😂😂 I'm taking bets on whether you think Damonkey could get the courage to ACTUALLY talk to me on my live stream or make excuses.

[@damonkenny7818]

@@queuecee You dodged again. You have a lot to answer for now start explaining.

[@queuecee]

I guarantee that when Damonkey mentions talking, he doesn't mean actual talking with me. He keeps dodging. He needs to explain himself on why he lied about talking.

[@damonkenny7818]

@@queuecee Just look at your stall tactics hoping all your lies I’ve documented just magically go away of you ignore them. Just admit your wilful deceit.

[@sigurdopheim3626]

I have "died" and come back i didnt see shit! I didnt even know i was gone.

[@ChrisM-zm4li]

Always say Cosmos when you mean everything ever.

[@bofelden8433]

Mike starts out trying to be kind and agreeable and ends up like a lying, cowardly little rat cornered and pressed to the wall.

[@JustReed]

Why does most everyone need to know there is a 'God'? What is one asking, 'is there a God?' What are people really asking? When I want eggs for breakfast, I'm not asking where's the chicken they laid these eggs I'm about to eat. I'm asking, do you have enough eggs for me to eat and is there bacon that comes with it? If I'm truly inquisitive, I would want to know where Chickens originally came from. People don't know 'how' to ask questions.

[@gattaca5911]

"UWO" nice.

[@jamesgastaldo4710]

I believe so it must be true !!!

[@chadpatterson9796]

Hypoxia

[@AussieNaturalist]

Mike seems rather desperate to believe in something, and it truly is sad listening to someone trying to defend their total failure to employ any kind of critical thinking within their worldview. Hes either a full blown fundie by now or he realised he was on a slippery slope to fallacy town and he saw reason, but I wont hold me breath on the latter...

[@Matt-y1l]

You atheists with your socalled logical fallacies! What you refer to as logical fallacies is just the discenment that only the holy ghost can provide.

[@AussieNaturalist]

@@Matt-y1l " socalled logical fallacies" Your comment indicates that you dont understand what constitutes a sound and valid argument, and why logical fallacies should be avoided at all costs in order to form a sound and valid epistemology. If you care about the truth of the matter, and care whether or not your worldview is as close to reality as possible, then you too would avoid logical fallacies, which you obviously havent done nor care about...

[@joshsheridan9511]

​@@Matt-y1l🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@ookekklibarianbornagain6708]

@@Matt-y1l What version of Christianity do you believe in?

[@Onganana]

Fallacy after fallacy. People should never produce fallacies unless intended.

[@Woreyel]

Where do you get logic laws that always apply necessarily in a universe of chance and matter in motion??

[@Onganana]

@@Woreyel I’m sure if you could invent something that helps you to investigate that “where” you asked, we’d have the same factual data to assess with zero quarrel. …until that day, don’t deposit anything stupid to presuppose as if we had that invention of yours.

[@Woreyel]

@@Onganana cool, thanks for confirming that your original comment has been 100% negated, because of this one. You have no foundation for laws of logic, so don't claim to.

[@Onganana]

@@Woreyel Luckily, I don’t have to worry about a Lv.1 troll plaguing comment feed for it not connecting the dots and somehow in its head thinking an imaginary friend exists. …do kindly share that imaginary friend’s number and I’ll talk to it like an adult without you. We’ll clear the logic giver issue ourselves, thanks.

[@Woreyel]

@@Onganana enjoy your condemnation.

[@jacksimpson-rogers1069]

It is irrational for a believer in an Almighty Creator to accept the idea of that God doing "supernatural" things even just to have His way, let alone to make people believe in Him. The nature of Nature, sloppily called "Laws" was necessarily what He, She, They or It defined in the first place, and ploutering with them later on would imply that they weren't well designed in the First Place.

[@philipinchina]

The "truths" and it is spun out to 22 minutes. How so?

[@morganramsay7628]

Making sh*t up??!! The whole damn thing g is made up!!

[@youneedhelp6902]

Boy this guys off the wall.....he believes because he believes.....wonder if he believes in big foot and flat earth too

[@rogerbee697]

Hey! Watch it buddy! I have faith that Sasquatch exists, therefore, it does. Got it?

[@youneedhelp6902]

@@rogerbee697 yes sir please don't send me to hell

[@rbwinn3]

I do not see truth in the supernatural claims of atheism.

[@thejabberwocky2819]

Atheism has no claims at all, much less supernatural ones. Do you always lie this poorly?

[@toddcott9510]

These were the best episodes, before Mat frightened off the would be caller's.

[@rileedeclue3175]

Oh man, this throwback makes me miss the old days of Atheist Experience...back when it was a good program. I find it completely unwatchable in it's current form.

[@robertmcclintock8701]

(　｀□´) This is an artistic proof of a created universe. When you paint a shadow it's the opposite color of the object that made the shadow. Nobody knew what the opposite color of white was so the artists avoided painting white on white. The opposite color of white is baby blue and baby pink. The first artist to figure it out was Norman Rockwell. I was the second artist to figure it out. I saw it in the corner of a white room. The lighting was perfect to see it.

[@sirbarryvee-eight6485]

"When you paint a shadow it's the opposite color of the object that made the shadow." Bullshit, I can paint the shadow any colour I want. "I saw it in the corner of a white room." With black curtains? Near the station? All that aside, this could actually be the least convincing proof of creation I have ever heard. Congratulations, because I have heard some utter crap.

[@robertmcclintock8701]

@sirbarryvee-eight6485 if you want to make a convincing shadow it has to be the opposite color of the object that made the shadow. Sure you can paint it any color you want but it won't be a convincing shadow.

[@nealjroberts4050]

This doesn't prove anything about a creation

[@robertmcclintock8701]

@nealjroberts4050 to prove a created universe you only need to find something intelligent in the environment. I have more proofs but they don't want them disclosed in KZbin comments. Disclosure has to be done perfectly or they won't do it.

[@sirbarryvee-eight6485]

@@robertmcclintock8701 "to prove a created universe you only need to find something intelligent in the environment." Leaving aside the bit where that is a false claim - you clearly ain't it. Besides, the opposite colour of blue is orange. You don't paint a shadow of a blue object in orange to make it convincing - you paint it a darker shade of whatever the shadow is being cast on. The only artist you qualify for is bullish*t artist. "I have more proofs but they don't want them disclosed in KZbin comments." If you have more "proofs" then why did you lead with something as weak as that? If you led with your best, then we do NOT need to hear the rest.

[@wwlib5390]

One Truth of Christianity - Jesus came to fulfill the law - and He did that on the Cross, demonstrating His great love for all, while we were sinners, by paying the price of our sin that we might be set free from the law of sin and death. John 3 16 invites you to know God's great love and promise for you and as you draw near to Him,, He will draw near to you.

[@dsp62122]

The Lord Jesus foreknew some of His His future eternal sons and daughters would object to what appeared to men with their temporal viewpoints as unjust treatment of mankind following Adam... He foreknew that because He created you for that very reason! Nevertheless, to all of His future eternal sons that He foreknew would object to His Creation process following Adam, He justified it all through the Cross... That is... The Lord Jesus had an eternal plan of redemption and salvation for mankind to be His future eternal sons and daughters before the creation of Creation. In order to create His future eternal sons and daughters... The fall of mankind through Adam was put in place through the Lord Jesus's eternal plan for mankind in order to create for Himself sons and daughters who were made in His image. In order to be truly made in the image of our Lord Jesus, it was required by design that all of mankind through Adam come to the knowledge of good and evil molded together with free will. It was for the very purpose of creating sons and daughters who were made in His image knowing that sin and death would ensue that the Lord Jesus predestined Himself to be murdered by His own future eternal sons and daughters in the most tortuous and ignominious manner on a cross. In that way, through the Cross, mankind's sins that followed Adam were justified by the Lord Jesus Christ. It was through the Cross then that the Lord Jesus's righteousness was revealed by forgiving all of mankind's sins committed following Adam. Indeed, it was through our Lord Jesus Christ alone that the Lord Jesus's eternal plan of redemption of mankind was finished on the Cross... As our Lord Jesus Christ declared in John 19:30... “It is finished.” Therefore, it is through our Lord Jesus alone that salvation came to all of mankind... Having redeemed mankind through the Cross it was through the Lord's resurrection that the Lord Jesus revealed to mankind and to all of the rulers and authorities in the heavenlies above and the earth below His eternal Gospel of salvation for mankind... That is, since Adam, from generation through generation, the Lord Jesus's future eternal sons and daughters have been coming to the knowledge of good and evil molded with free will. This process of Creation will continue until that last generation, when the fullness of the gentiles whose names were written in the Book of Life before the creation of Creation have come to fulfillment. Then, during that final generation on a day and hour unknown, the Day of the Lord Jesus will come upon all of mankind and Creation like a thief in the night at the last trumpet sound... On that day, the Lord Jesus will be revealed in all of His everlasting glory, and all of the Lord's sons and daughters will be made known to all of Creation. On that Day, the Lord Jesus will be revealed in all of His everlasting glory... That at the Name of Jesus, every knee will bow, and every tongue will confess that Jesus is Lord to the glory of the Father. On that Day, the eternal sons and daughters will be made known to all of Creation... In a flash, in the twinkling of the Lord's eye, all will be made incorruptible, and all will be made immortal. On that Day, 1 Corinthians 15:54-57 will be fulfilled... "When the perishable has been clothed with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality, then the saying that is written will come true: “Death has been swallowed up in victory.” “Where, O death, is your victory? Where, O death, is your sting?” The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law. But thanks be to God! He gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ." ...Then the Lord's eternal sons and daughters, together with their Lord Jesus, will live forever in a new heavens and a new earth. By the Lord Jesus's grace, He did all of that for us who are His future eternal sons and daughters. Therefore, it was our Lord, God, and Savior Jesus alone who sovereignly ...What a Gospel the Lord Jesus has made known to those who believe even while we still live in this perishing world.

[@rogerbee697]

Yeah, we get it. You’re a religious cult member and you’re incapable of thinking for yourself and just regurgitate other people’s words. Which by the way, are claims, not evidence to support the claims. How sad for you.

[@Matt-y1l]

Jesus loves you sooo much! Wont you give your heart to him today? If you dont he will have you tortured in hell throughout eternity. Do you want that?

[@einienj3281]

Jesus saves you from what he is going to do to you if you don't let him save you. Makes zero sense.

[@nealjroberts4050]

Counterproductive preaching is still counterproductive. Do you think it's a sin?

[@Matt-y1l]

I dont get it. Jesus is giving you a parachute so you dont plunge to your death!. How is this counterproductive? Maybe you should listen to Ray Comfort. Here are a few questions to consider here. 1- How many lies have you told in your life? 2- Have you had lustfull thoughts? 3-Have you used the lord's name in vain? Im not judging you but if you answered to all 3 by your own admission you are a lustfull, blasphemous, liar deserving of hellfire. Kinda makes you think a bit huh?

[@ianalan4367]

Apostilolic Christianity does not believe God sends people to hell. He attempts to save us from it.

[@nealjroberts4050]

​@@Matt-y1l More counterproductive preaching. How sinful do you think that is?

[@ThroneofDavid8]

Question to all Ex-Christians. Why did you lose your salvation?

[@amtlpaul]

What salvation?

[@ministryofarguments3525]

Ah yes, the mischievous superstitious troll is back in the comments to spread his mischievousness yet again.

[@queuecee]

You actually get salvation when you leave Christianity. It's a test of whether you'll simply believe a story without any evidence.

[@Leith_Crowther]

Ex Christians don’t think they lost their salvation. They think there is nothing to be saved from and no salvation from it. They now think they were never saved from anything, and neither were you. It’s only current Christians who believe in salvation from something.

[@tonyclements1147]

Question to TryHarder: Do you enjoy being intellectually spanked on a daily basis for asking stupid questions and posting ridiculous comments?

[@anti-validation]

The best thing about Christianity is it puts other people before yourself. Don't sin (selfishness and depravity). Always help the most needy with food, clothes, and medicine. Nobody will argue this is bad. Faith makes us capable of greater sacrifices and greater acts of kindness. Eternal damnation is your choice.

[@AXKfUN9m]

Sin is arbitrarily decided by ancient long dead people. What they considered right and wrong could and has been reviewed and changed. Do you still stone adulterers, blasphemers, homosexuals, and people who talk back to their parents? Do you practice Deuteronomy 25:11-12? What about all the atrocities committed in the name of their religion and god?

[@anti-validation]

@@AXKfUN9m Jesus replaced the ten commandments with love God with all your heart and love your neighbors as yourself: Matthew 22. This is the greatest commandment. Loving your neighbors as yourself is helping the most needy with food, clothes, and medicine: Matthew 25. If you are busy being greedy and selfish, then you are not focused on following the greatest of all commandments for the sake of the Kingdom of Heaven.

[@anti-validation]

@@AXKfUN9m Morality (sin) is right vs. wrong. It is never arbitrary. Ethics is what people vote to enforce. Depravity is what people want. They are all mutually exclusive. Ethics has migrated away from morality and towards depravity.

[@AXKfUN9m]

@johnmausen8369 Matthew 5:17 he came to fulfill, not abolish. You're wrong. Matthew 10:34 he didn't bring peace but a sword. Wrong again, no love comes from that. Read carefully what's in the Bible. The commandments are clearly arbitrary. In fact, some even contradict each other. Because it's all written by people with selfish interests, that's what the religion is. It's a sales pitch and oftentimes a threat.

[@anti-validation]

@@AXKfUN9m Matthew 22: the greatest of all commandments is love your God with all your heart and love your neighbors as yourself. Matthew 25: either you are a sheep or goat. If you help the most needy, God loves you and you go to Heaven. If you ignore them, you go to hell. Matthew 6: you cannot worship both God and money because you will love one and hate the other. Matthew 6: your heart follows your treasures. If your treasures are on earth, not helping the needy, then you have no treasures in heaven. Luke 18, Matthew 19, and Mark 10: the wealthy man who doesn't sin asks Jesus what he needs to do to enter into the kingdom of heaven: Jesus recites the ten commandments. The wealthy man has followed these his entire life. Jesus tells him you lack one thing. Sell your possessions and give your money to the needy. Then you will have treasures in Heaven and can follow Me. He lowered his head and walked away because he had great wealth. I can continue. We are at a point where you are arguing against morality: right vs. wrong. I have right. You have wrong. Please continue. Don't waste my time with your "dead cat in a box" nonsense. Please and thank you. I can put all of morality in a neat tiny bow for you. You will waste my time. I have real problems. Please become someone who deals with real problems

[@2Timothy42-tl6lh]

Repent of your sins, believe in Jesus Christ for salvation and become a new person in this life. Luke 24:47 KJV And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. John 3:16 KJV For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:3 KJV Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

[@joshsheridan9511]

Nothing to repent for, no one to repent to.

[@dogwalker666]

That's all fairytales! Open your eyes escape your cult!

[@canbest7668]

Wow. More bible quotes. How impactful and novel…

[@einienj3281]

How my alter accounts do you have?

[@davidbelway6076]

Christianity is a dooms day death cult, focused on the extermination of humanity and punishing the nonbelievers with eternal hell. No thankyou.